Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buy another radio that does everything you want. Of course, it hasn't been built yet. Here's an idea, start your own company and build the perfect radio, but be ready for the incessant whining (like 5 year olds) which will issue forth from your customers because you didn't do it their way. The fact that it's the best performing radio on the market doesn't matter a damn, It won't let me do X or it won't let me do Y is all you'll hear from the ingrates. What's the matter, just because you'd have to spend 3-4X the money to get your dedicated band changing keypad and anywhere near the performance shouldn't be a problem, should it? S Sacco wrote: | I don't want to depend on my computer. | | I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. | | I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. | | I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. | | I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I | accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that | doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that | practically everything in life is a compromise. | | 73, | Steve NN4X | | P.S: It looks like Windows 7 is going to support touch screen input. | Imagine the interfaces that'll be possible THEN! We could create our | own K3 on a big touch screen monitor, and it could be HUGE, and maybe | I could even get my direct band-switching! | | Maybe I could write a UI that would make the K3 look like a 75A-4 or | something (but with a built-in band scope ;-) ). | | | On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? | | You can use the band up/down button (which means you are no more than | 5 pushes away from any band, probably less). Is it really important | to change bands in less than 2 or 3 seconds? | | You can use direct keypad entry. Also under 5 seconds. | | You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. | Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. | | You can control the band from you computer (instant change). | | Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so | urgent about a band switch keypad ala the other rigs. Is this | really such a big deal? | | de Doug KR2Q | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP+sG11jxjloa2wsRAvDYAJ9fGR1ZFFVa52mri1AeI6KekUeixQCbBHEe 0a8WeODQHxsJsSwobZq/W9o= =W007 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
Dear R. Kevin - I'm sorry, but where I say: I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I | accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that | doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that | practically everything in life is a compromise. R. Kevin, what part of that don't you understand, to justify the tone and content of your commentary? Looking forward to your reply, and hopefully, apology. 73, Steve NN4X On 5/30/08, R. Kevin Stover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buy another radio that does everything you want. Of course, it hasn't been built yet. Here's an idea, start your own company and build the perfect radio, but be ready for the incessant whining (like 5 year olds) which will issue forth from your customers because you didn't do it their way. The fact that it's the best performing radio on the market doesn't matter a damn, It won't let me do X or it won't let me do Y is all you'll hear from the ingrates. What's the matter, just because you'd have to spend 3-4X the money to get your dedicated band changing keypad and anywhere near the performance shouldn't be a problem, should it? S Sacco wrote: | I don't want to depend on my computer. | | I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. | | I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. | | I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. | | I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I | accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that | doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that | practically everything in life is a compromise. | | 73, | Steve NN4X | | P.S: It looks like Windows 7 is going to support touch screen input. | Imagine the interfaces that'll be possible THEN! We could create our | own K3 on a big touch screen monitor, and it could be HUGE, and maybe | I could even get my direct band-switching! | | Maybe I could write a UI that would make the K3 look like a 75A-4 or | something (but with a built-in band scope ;-) ). | | | On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? | | You can use the band up/down button (which means you are no more than | 5 pushes away from any band, probably less). Is it really important | to change bands in less than 2 or 3 seconds? | | You can use direct keypad entry. Also under 5 seconds. | | You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. | Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. | | You can control the band from you computer (instant change). | | Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so | urgent about a band switch keypad ala the other rigs. Is this | really such a big deal? | | de Doug KR2Q | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP+sG11jxjloa2wsRAvDYAJ9fGR1ZFFVa52mri1AeI6KekUeixQCbBHEe 0a8WeODQHxsJsSwobZq/W9o= =W007 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
I would also like to add that when using the LP-PAN with PowerSDR you will have dedicated band buttons there as well. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu May 29 5:57 , DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL sent: My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? You can use the band up/down button (which means you are no more than 5 pushes away from any band, probably less). Is it really important to change bands in less than 2 or 3 seconds? You can use direct keypad entry. Also under 5 seconds. You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. You can control the band from you computer (instant change). Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so urgent about a band switch keypad ala the other rigs. Is this really such a big deal? de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
I don't want to depend on my computer. I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that practically everything in life is a compromise. 73, Steve NN4X P.S: It looks like Windows 7 is going to support touch screen input. Imagine the interfaces that'll be possible THEN! We could create our own K3 on a big touch screen monitor, and it could be HUGE, and maybe I could even get my direct band-switching! Maybe I could write a UI that would make the K3 look like a 75A-4 or something (but with a built-in band scope ;-) ). On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? You can use the band up/down button (which means you are no more than 5 pushes away from any band, probably less). Is it really important to change bands in less than 2 or 3 seconds? You can use direct keypad entry. Also under 5 seconds. You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. You can control the band from you computer (instant change). Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so urgent about a band switch keypad ala the other rigs. Is this really such a big deal? de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
90% of my band changes are done by direct frequency entry to drop me in the band segment I want (e.g. 7.030 or 14.250) It's not a one button push but it's quick, easy, puts me where I want to be without cycling through the bands using the up/down button, spinning the tuning knob unnecessarily or programming lots of memories. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I don't want to depend on my computer. I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that practically everything in life is a compromise. 73, Steve NN4X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
These are interesting comments. I don't really mind cycling up and down the bands and doing a bit of knob turning. I simply push the button for fast tuning and be done with it. Band stacking registers would have been a nice feature but I guess you can't have everything. About the only small problem I have had, bearing in mind that I have had the K-3 for only about two weeks, is that I tend to cause the band to switch down when I am trying to activate the vox. I often don't hold the button long enough and so it lowers the band rather than activating the vox. I think that is a matter that will just require getting used to. Bruce-W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:10 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch 90% of my band changes are done by direct frequency entry to drop me in the band segment I want (e.g. 7.030 or 14.250) It's not a one button push but it's quick, easy, puts me where I want to be without cycling through the bands using the up/down button, spinning the tuning knob unnecessarily or programming lots of memories. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I don't want to depend on my computer. I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that practically everything in life is a compromise. 73, Steve NN4X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1466 - Release Date: 5/25/2008 6:49 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
I spent about 15 Min programming my bands into the #1-10 keys and the 3 modes on each band (CW, SSB, PSK) into the M1=M3 keys. I set my first favorite freq in VFO A, second in VFO B for each M# key for that band. I can go where I want with proper mode/filter/antenna/whatever I like!! in about 2 seconds. Where is the problem?? It is a poor workman that blames his tools! Gill DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so urgent about a band switch keypad ala the other rigs. Is this really such a big deal? de Doug KR2Q ___ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-band-bitch-tp17535200p17548635.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
