Re: [elinks-users] elinks and elinks-lite ?
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 03:28:59PM -0700, Jeff Wood wrote: What is the difference between elinks and elinks-lite? Is there a difference in the source code too? [...] Perhaps you are referring to the elinks-lite package in Debian, Ubuntu, or another distribution. Is this the case? The elinks-lite package in Debian and Ubuntu is based on the same source code but with a different set of features enabled at build time. -- Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Displaying Big5 Charset
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 04:54:30PM -0400, Richard R. Boyechko wrote: [...] Thank you for clarifying that. I am not much of a programmer, so doubt that I would be able to add the iconv functionality by myself. However, as far as individual charsets are concerned, is there much more to getting them to work than providing translations tables to UTF-8, like the ones in Unicode directory in elinks sources? [...] It appears that Witold Filipczyk implemented support for Big5 in the 0.13 development branch today (I have not tried the change out myself). Best regards, -- Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Displaying Big5 Charset
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 02:59:09AM -0400, Richard R. Boyechko wrote: Dear Elinkers, I have been using elinks for several years for an occasional web browsing when X is not available, but over the past couple of weeks have switched to using elinks almost exclusively for all my browsing needs. As part of that, I am trying to view a Big5-encoded website [1]. Try as I may, however, I cannot get it to display anything but gibberish. Could anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong, or at least unequivocally say that it's not supported and won't work? [...] ELinks does not support Big5 (or GB2312). There is a report on Bugzilla, should use iconv for charset that it doesn't know: http://bugzilla.elinks.cz/show_bug.cgi?id=891 It would be wonderful if somebody implemented that (and it has been discussed several times), but it would be a good amount of work. Best regards, -- Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Elinks - title resets to $TERM not what it originally was
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 04:43:02PM +, Saurabh T wrote: I am using gnome-terminal whose default title is Terminal. However after use of Elinks, the title becomes the value of $TERM rather than Terminal. Is this expected behaviour? If so, is there a way to make Elinks reset to the original title rather than $TERM? Else should I enter this as a bug? (I know about ui.window_title, not looking to turn off title handling completely). Thank you. If ELinks is compiled with X support, then on X, it can grab the terminal title when it starts and restore that title when it exits. Otherwise, ELinks is hardcoded to set the value of $TERM. ELinks needs to be compiled with the X libraries in order to be able to grab the terminal title. Did you have the libx11-devel package installed when you compiled ELinks? -- Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] why use elinks? and how to search archives?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 08:00:40PM +0200, Ludo Beckers wrote: Thanks for the many replies to my first question. The second one didn't have a single response though - probably I didn't phrase it well. 2nd question was: how do I search for keywords in the archives? with this I meant the elinks-archives; how would I look for posts with eg customize elinks if there's no search option? [...] I would use Google. For example, search site:mail-archive.com inurl:elinks-users customize elinks: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail-archive.com%20inurl%3Aelinks-users%20customize%20elinks or site:gmane.org inurl:elinks customize elinks: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Agmane.org%20inurl%3Aelinks%20customize%20elinks Surprisingly, linuxfromscratch.org disallows all spidering, so you can't search the official archives: http://linuxfromscratch.org/robots.txt Good thing many other archives exist. While I'm sending this reply, I'll reply to your first question, as well. On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ludo Beckers wrote: as a regular Linux-user (non-developer) what are the benefits of using elinks, other than that it is nice for older machines to have fast webbrowsing? [...] I'm surprised nobody has mentioned (unless I missed it) that one can run ELinks in programs such as GNU Screen, dtach, and tmux, allowing one to start ELinks (possibly on a remote system), detach, close one's terminal window, open a new terminal window (possibly from a different remote system), and re-attach to the running ELinks process. Another thing I really like about ELinks is that it uses its bloody cache: I can go back and forth in session history or open a cached document with NO delay. The general reasons I use ELinks, most of which others have touched upon, are -usability (Chrome with Vimium is nice, but like every graphical browser, it still has crippling focus issues and other, very frustrating UI issues); -speed (although I admit that graphical browsers and the hardware that powers them keep getting faster); -reliability (ELinks has crashers, but it's more stable than the standard graphical browsers, and it NEVER loses my session after a crash, unlike Firefox and Chrome); and -memory usage (ELinks can use a lot, especially if one has a large cache, but it's still a lot better than most browsers, and it doesn't leak or explode in memory consumption unexpectedly [in my experience]). I just wish I (or other developers) had time to fix some bugs and implement better support for standards necessary for various Web sites I must or want to use. Note that many Web sites provide mobile versions that work well in ELinks (e.g. https://m.twitter.com/ and most Google services). Best regards, -- Miciah Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] click button not submit form to backend
On 05/14/2009 10:51 AM, elinks-users-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Hi All, I use elinks-0.11.1-5.1.el5. My applcation is running on tomcat5 with jboss-seam-2.0.2.SP1 and trinidad 1.2.5. After I load the page with elinks, then click then submit button on my page, the form does not be submited (I mean I do not see my backend method called). (I used IE and firefox, they work good.) Any idea? I would be helpful to have the HTML source for the document in question. Most likely, your application is using ECMAScript. ELinks has support for ECMAScript, but only very limited support. Make sure that ECMAScript support was compiled in: Go to Help - About and look for 'ECMAScript' under 'Features'. Make sure that ECMAScript support is enabled: Go to Setup - Options manager - ECMAScript and make sure that the Enable is set to 1. If the Web application still does not function, it may be using features that ELinks does not support. ELinks uses either SEE or the Mozilla project's SpiderMonkey engine, so it supports the full core language, but it does not support all of the interfaces that scripts need to manipulate the document (DOM support is very limited). Without seeing the HTML for the document, one can't be sure whether this is the cause of your problem, but it is the most likely explanation. Good luck, -- Miciah Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com / mdm0...@ecu.edu ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Rendering of google news.
On 03/09/2009 07:27 PM, Chris Jones wrote: [...] I need to type '126' if I want link [123], etc. Anyone knows the cause of this behavior? Is there a workaround? Go to Setup - Options manager and disable Document - Browsing - Links - Use tabindex. -- Miciah Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com / mdm0...@ecu.edu ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Rendering of google news.
On 02/28/2009 07:11 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On October 10, 2007 I was using ELinks to visit http://news.google.de [...] 1. Are you folks seeing the same thing? What I get looks like your second screenshot; in particular, there is little colour and there are only 2 columns. 2. Do you know why this is happening? Google News probably recently switched from a table-based layout to a CSS-based layout. 3. Is there a workaround? ELinks needs much better support for the CSS box model. Implementing such is a difficult task at which various developers have made several aborted attempts throughout the history of ELinks. -- Miciah Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com / mdm0...@ecu.edu ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] ELinks hogging CPU?
On 02/19/2009 07:52 AM, Chris Jones wrote: A bit of an exaggeration, but I noticed recently that on an idle system top had just about every process using a fraction of 1% CPU while ELinks with 2-3 tabs open on general purpose sites such as google news was using c. 5% CPU. What version of ELinks are you using? Try disabling clock and LEDs under the Setup - Options manager - User Interface. Also, you can check that you don't have a timer enabled (User Interface - Timer options - Enable), but it shouldn't be unless you explicitly configured it to be. -- Miciah Masters miciah.mast...@gmail.com / mdm0...@ecu.edu ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Which libjs?
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 10:01:22AM -0500, Ed Hurst wrote: Running CentOS 4.4 x86-64. I found a libjs RPM for my system, and it installed okay (libjs-devel-1.5-3.el4.at). Then I built elinks 0.11.1 with it, and saw no errors. Yet on the Reuters website, I can't get the JScript links to work. Any ideas? What you need is Mozilla's SpiderMonkey Javascript engine. I think that this libjs is the needed libjs. Check features.log or Help - About to check whether SpiderMonkey was enabled. If SpiderMonkey was not found, please send the config.log file and the output of (if I recall the RPM syntax correctly) `rpm -ql libjs-devel`. ELinks's support for JavaScript is very limited (in particular, DOM is unsupported), so many sites will not work even with SpiderMonkey; however, the open-in-new-window links that I saw on reuters.com work fine for me. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Re: Enter following links while searching ahead in
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 06:17:54PM +0530, Ligesh wrote: Calculate the total distance the hand has to travel everyday in its journey to hit that button. It will be more than a mile. :-) A small distance, but summed up over a period, becomes more than a mile. I think to be exact, it should go as: Averaged over a day, the escape key is a mile away. The point is that, I am a subconscious computer user, and I don't think while typing or doing anything. That's the reason I can't use the numbering for navigation. I am sure almost all elinks users are similarly handicapped, but since I come emacs-w3m, which I personally wrote most of the features for, I would say I am a bit more spoiled. But elinks is surprising me everyday. :-) Let's divide 1 mile into 2 inches, a generous estimate of the distance the hand moves to press the Escape key one time. 1 mile / 2 inches is 31 680 keypresses. Even if you work at your computer all day, that is only 86 400 seconds of typing. Are you pressing Escape more than once every three seconds? -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Cache problems?
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 01:41:38PM -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 06:39:23AM +, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 03:54:28PM -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: Hi. I've been using elinks for awhile now; it seems like the best of the text browsers. But I've noticed one problem, and I haven't seen any bug reports or emails relating to it. I seem to be having cache problems. When I visit www.dailykos.com (for example) and click to view an article, if I then click on www.dailykos.com on the article page to go to the home page again (i.e. NOT going back in the history), the page I get seems to be the cached version from before. It's very fast and doesn't seem to access the network. The content on the home page changes frequently, so it's often out of date, requiring me to reload manually. I've set the formatted documents number and memory cache size to zero to try to fix this, but it still happens. Is it possible that this only happens to me for some reason? I'm currently using the latest 0.12 from 20060712, but it happened with 0.11 and 0.10. Go to Setup - Options manager - Document - Cache - Ignore cache-control info from server and set that option to 0. I forgot about that option. That's already set to 0. When you say 'already', do you mean that you have the problem even with the option disabled? -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Cache problems?
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 12:25:16PM -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 06:05:35PM +, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: [...] Do the browsers with which you are familiar actually check every time when you view a document (presumably using the HTTP If-Modified-Since header) whether there is a newer copy on the server? ELinks could do that, but it would be a little complex, and far too slow. I can't even stand the behaviour with ignore_cache_control disabled, which only affects documents that explicitely signal that they should be reloaded from the server. Such behaviour might be acceptable if done in the background, but then it would be a bit confusing (you load the document, you start to read it, then it suddenly updates while you're in the middling of reading it). My main browser is Firefox; I use ELinks under special circumstances. Unfortunately, I'm really just a user and don't know how exactly Firefox knows to reload a page. It does seem like there's some network activity, so it probably is checking if there's a newer copy on the server. If that's the case, I'm not sure why you think it would be so slow. I find Firefox to be pretty fast, so ELinks should be at least as fast if it was doing the same server query, no? Overall, it seems to me like ELinks is a very fast browser, which should be no surprise since it's just text. When loading a page, I personally would definitely trade a split-second of time for the proper page. (I wouldn't want it to work as you describe, showing the old page and then updating it in the background. I'd prefer to wait.) Maybe this could be a setting for those that prefer speed and don't ever use ELinks to visit frequently-changing pages? (Notice I'm avoiding the whole issue of the complexity of implementing this...!) The split-second delay would be mildly annoying, but that is the best case, when the server is responsive. How is the performance with slow servers? In any case, I do not consider Firefox to be anywere near 'pretty fast'. Doing what you describe might be feasible. It would be a little more code for the HTTP part and a little re-engineering of the cache code, but it doesn't sound too difficult. Whether it will actually get done also depends on whether the developers desire such behaviour, however. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Cache problems?
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:44:41PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 05:31:42PM EDT, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 05:10:42PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: I've also heard that the SpiderMonkey - the new mozilla has marked improvements in the area. But slow rendering was only one of the issues. I have switched to a keyboard-only text-mode 'desktop' - interface, I should say and I am a much happier man. Nice. I don't think I could get by with text-only in my main browser FYI, I think there's a Firefox extension that is aimed at keyboard-only use. Never used it, though. I'll look it up.. Although I'm sceptical.. Microsoft did a very good job of making gui's navigable via the keyboard but you cannot change the fact that the gui designer was thinking *mouse* when he designed the layout.. etc. Just and example.. in many guis I have seen you may have to drill down three.. four.. five..? levels of dialog/popup boxes the size of a postage stamp (some of them you'll even have to reach for that scrollbar so you can get to what you're looking for..) before you eventually get to the particular flag or whatever that you want to change.. While this is perfectly suitable with the inherent slowness of the mouse, it becomes rather annnoying when you use a considerably faster interface like the keyboard. This is why why have keyboard accelerators. Drop the mouse man..! Charles Darwin is categorical.. You'll never grow a third arm in your lifetime. Oh it's no problem, I use my tail to control the mouse! :) :-) Not that I'm particularly happy with the keyboard either. The traditional typewriter keyboard was bad enough but what IBM did to it is beyond words.. What did IBM do? Only solace I find in a keyboard-only environment is its relative simplicity (as compared with keyboard+mouse) .. Even a fairly large number of inconsistant keyboard shortcuts across applications is in my case a tad more efficient than switching action mode every other second. I prefer to be able to form my environment to myself, you know, like a human. Using GNU Screen, my Web browser, E-mail, IRC client, shells, editors, music player, c. are each exactly one keypress away. Each program is customised (mostly) with comfortable (for me) keybindings. Oh.. and as to developers being 'whimsical' relative to enhancements, I think not.. That's exactly why I barged into your thread.. The list is really the place where you can voice an opinion.. and since this caching behavior was something that struck me as being fundamentally different from the other browser.. Not sure it's a bad thing, though.. I briefly mentioned it but Miciah has a good point.. when the server is unresponsive it's OK I guess if you explicitly ask for a reload.. Maybe less so when the reload is done on a transparent basis every time you hit the back button (eg.). I guess whims was a bad word to use. so far they haven't objected... How offensive, implying that we have whims! In fact, developers have itches and occasional fancies, but none of this whim nonsense. I just wanted to explain that I understand it's open source and that the developers can do what they like. I don't think they may.. or can. Whatever they may state in their disclaimers they just cannot pull the plug on a piece of software that has some degree of following... And in fact they very rarely do so.. one of the nice things about OSS is that when it happens someone else will step in.. if the software is worth the effort.. that is.. (?) Guess how ELinks got started? See http://elinks.cz/history.html. The impetus for ELinks was largly that it looked like Links had been abandoned. As to *being able* to do what they like.. it's pretty much the same thing.. too much change that turns out to be unsatisfactory and the user community will just not take it.. someone forks the project.. etc. ELinks was forked also because Links's developer was very strict with regard to patches. .. like .. I'm a vim user/fan.. now Bram Moolenaar et al. all of a sudden see the light and the next version of Vim turns out to be an MS Word clone... how 'bout that? It is getting there, but at least Vim still runs on the terminal. I do hope someone will implement/improve CSS rendering some time soon, though.. Not that I spend much time on commercial web sites.. but a growing number are getting hard to read. The developers hope for that too. However, most of them work, most of them are students, and better CSS support requires DOM support and a box model and stuff that all requires a lot of coding effort. We would all like to get this done, but don't get your hopes too high. Yeah.. that's how you eventually get them to pay attention.. .. moan consistently on the list with a bunch of other troublemakers until they really get sick of it.. OK.. fixed in CVS - GIT, I mean..
Re: [elinks-users] Cache problems?
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 03:54:28PM -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: Hi. I've been using elinks for awhile now; it seems like the best of the text browsers. But I've noticed one problem, and I haven't seen any bug reports or emails relating to it. I seem to be having cache problems. When I visit www.dailykos.com (for example) and click to view an article, if I then click on www.dailykos.com on the article page to go to the home page again (i.e. NOT going back in the history), the page I get seems to be the cached version from before. It's very fast and doesn't seem to access the network. The content on the home page changes frequently, so it's often out of date, requiring me to reload manually. I've set the formatted documents number and memory cache size to zero to try to fix this, but it still happens. Is it possible that this only happens to me for some reason? I'm currently using the latest 0.12 from 20060712, but it happened with 0.11 and 0.10. Go to Setup - Options manager - Document - Cache - Ignore cache-control info from server and set that option to 0. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: Re: [elinks-users] Mouse in the terminal screen....
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 08:24:41AM -0400, Patrice Gauvin wrote: Good question about the permission. but I changed the right about gpmctl and nothing have change... [...] Did you restart ELinks (with the -no-connect option, to be safe) after changing the permissions? If so, how about trying ltrace? Install the ltrace package if necessary and run this command: ltrace -e Gpm_Open -o ltrace.out elinks Send ltrace.out to the list (it should only be a couple of lines). -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 12:54:27AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 01:36:57PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:46:18PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: .. or am I over-simplifying / missing something? How does the current revision look? Unless I missed it.. it still does not mention debian stable.. and since it's the only linux system I am running at this point I can't really comment on the changes. Curious. http://pasky.or.cz/gitweb.cgi?p=elinks.git;a=blob;f=doc/ecmascript.txt shows the revision that mentions stable when I reload it. How about http://pasky.or.cz/gitweb.cgi?p=elinks.git;a=blob;h=73f5ba00fec87b82ed506e07bad5279779753b43;hb=2962e29f2e15231551b9fe15a51facee210c7be0;f=doc/ecmascript.txt? -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] HTTP authentication error
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:00:30PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 06:03:18PM +, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: You did not explicitly say that you have enabled ECMAScript support in ELinks. Have you? Are you using the SpiderMonkey engine? What version of ELinks are you using? The problem that you described is most likely due to ELinks's poor ECMAScript capabilities. If you were to provide the source for the document, we might be able to determine exactly what the document contains that ELinks doesn't support and possibly to fix it. Be sure to scrub any private information. I am using elinks 0.11.1 with spider monkey (js1.5) downloaded from the mozilla site just last month. Yes, ecma support is configured in and the configuration process did include the javascript library in question. It works with some javascript as I could get into this router's pages and my personal banking site. I just run into frequent times when a control just doesn't respond. Below is the HTML source of the router page in question. I had the cursor on the apply button; it is labeled with an apply.jpg image. When I hit the enter key, the letter J popped up in the lower right corner. I think that indicates javascript if I'm right. The displayed URI for that apply button is definitely an invokation of javascript. I don't know javascript so would be unable to dig further without some guidance here:). [...] Could you attach the file public.js that the HTML file references? -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] HTTP authentication error
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 07:54:13PM +1200, Leith Bade wrote: I am having problems logging into my D-Link router's configuration page. I enter my username and password, after which elinks displays the unknown file type dialog. If I display the file all it says is !-CAS:0003--Unauthorized. I know it is the correct login as lynx and w3m can load the pages OK, but don't support JavaScript which is required by the router. [...] The problem could be due to a bug in the ECMAScript, HTTP, TLS, or authentication code. To log in, do you use HTTP authentication, i.e., does it open a dialogue box prompting you for the username and password, or is there an authentication page? If the latter, could you provide that page? I expect that there will be nothing private there, but you should double-check. The former will be more difficult to debug. Can you go to Tools - Cache and paste the URIs and information (via the Info button) on newest entries for your router? Another nifty tool is the HTTP TRACE request. Enable Setup - Options manager - Protocol - HTTP - Activate HTTP TRACE debugging. This will tell ELinks to use TRACE instead of GET or POST, which tells the router to send back whatever ELinks sends to it. What version of ELinks are you using? Which SSL library are you using? -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] HTTP authentication error
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 07:37:56AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: [...] I do have other problems though, I cannot save any settings from elinks to my router. I can fill the forms and all but when I go to click the save settings link, it just sits there and ignores me. I run into that quite often with elinks and many javascript controls. This works fine with windows firefox but not elinks. Any ideas on this? You did not explicitly say that you have enabled ECMAScript support in ELinks. Have you? Are you using the SpiderMonkey engine? What version of ELinks are you using? The problem that you described is most likely due to ELinks's poor ECMAScript capabilities. If you were to provide the source for the document, we might be able to determine exactly what the document contains that ELinks doesn't support and possibly to fix it. Be sure to scrub any private information. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: Re: [elinks-users] (no subject)
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 02:51:58PM -0400, Patrice Gauvin wrote: Thomas : which distribution are you using ? Miciah : Output of these five commands...rpm -qv gpm -- gpm-1.20.1-11mdk PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND ps $(pidof gpm) -- 2561?Ss 0:00 gpm -m /dev/usbmouse -t ps2tty -- /dev/tty2echo $TERM -- sh: linux: command not foundldd $(which elinks) -- linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7ed9000) libssl.so.0.9.7 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 (0xb7ea7000) libcrypto.so.0.9.7 = /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 (0xb7d9d000) liblua.so = /usr/lib/liblua.so (0xb7d88000) liblualib.so = /usr/lib/liblualib.so (0xb7d77000) libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7d52000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7d4e000) libgpm.so.1 = /lib/libgpm.so.1 (0xb7d47000) libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7d34000) libbz2.so.1 = /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1 (0xb7d23000) libidn.so.11 = /usr/lib/libidn.so.11 (0xb7cf3000) libexpat.so.0 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0xb7cd3000) libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7ba5000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fab000) Tank you for trying to helping me everyone ! The output looks kind of garbled. Did you mistype the command `echo $TERM`? That command really shouldn't fail. Can you send the output of a couple more commands? ls -l /dev/gpmctl lsof -p $(pidof gpm) Run the second one as root. If you find that you don't have a /dev/gpmctl file, try this command: service gpm restart Then restart ELinks. Does that fix it? -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:18:27AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 05:24:18AM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: Are you saying that prior to installing the Debian package, you had built SpiderMonkey yourself and put it in /usr/local? Not sure what you mean by the Debian package - I used the spidermonkey tarball (since I needed to patch the source). As to the prior.. there never was a spidermonkey on this system before I did this install. I followed the ecmascript.txt instructions to the letter: 1. apt-get of the libsmjs1 libsmjs-dev 2. download + patch + build of spidermonkey [...] If you apt-get install SpiderMonkey, you are not supposed to follow the instructions to build it yourself--you only need one copy of SpiderMonkey. I have now made this explicit in doc/ecmascript.txt. What kind of capabilities does the cool dynamic document manipulation provide? For example, dynamic menus, list boxes that change their values when you change the values of other form controls, drag-and-drop... you can find many cool demos that don't work in ELinks at http://script.aculo.us/. What I noticed is that most of the js links point to the launching of some multimedia stuff via adhoc plugins that I really have no time for.. but I'll keeep an eye open for problems with the regular stuff and report them here if any arise. Some JS links work with ELinks's ECMAScript support, some do not. Indeed, fancy multimedia players are not going to work. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Mouse in a terminal screen...
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Patrice Gauvin wrote: Hi everybody ! I'm still trying to enable the mouse with elinks in a terminal screen. What terminal are you using? The mouse cursor is working but I can't interact with the elinks interface. In a console mode (in graphic interface) it works pretty fine but not in a text mode tty... ELinks doesn't have a graphical interface. Are you running ELinks in a terminal emulator in the X Window System, and if so, which terminal emulator are you using? Are you running ELinks on the Linux console? Are you using GNU Screen or any other relevant program (Twin, window(1)...)? I use gpm and elinks 0.11.1-1mdv2007 and I tried with older version too (0.6) There is no ELinks 0.6. Is somebody can try and tell me if it work on other Linux version than Mandriva ? The mouse works for me with Debian GNU/Linux unstable on AMD64. I run ELinks HEAD, but the mouse works fine with Debian's ELinks 0.11.1 package, too. I have Debian's GPM package version 1.19.6-21. The mouse works for me both with XTerm and on the Linux console. Is somebody can tell me what could missing ? Tank you ! -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 05:58:38PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: What's a git tree? GIT is the revision control system that ELinks uses. It stores revisions of the source tree. ELinks switched from CVS to GIT in September. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: Re: [elinks-users] Mouse in a terminal screen...
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 05:56:17PM -0400, Patrice Gauvin wrote: What terminal are you using? -- shell (in a tty) ELinks doesn't have a graphical interface. -- No, I mean in Window and running elinks in something like konqueror...There is no ELinks 0.6. -- 0.10.6 (sorry there I forgoted to add the 10...) Can you copy and paste the output of these five commands? rpm -qv gpm ps $(pidof gpm) tty echo $TERM ldd $(which elinks) -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 06:48:43PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 01:38:07PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:18:27AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 05:24:18AM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: Are you saying that prior to installing the Debian package, you had built SpiderMonkey yourself and put it in /usr/local? Not sure what you mean by the Debian package - I used the spidermonkey tarball (since I needed to patch the source). As to the prior.. there never was a spidermonkey on this system before I did this install. I followed the ecmascript.txt instructions to the letter: 1. apt-get of the libsmjs1 libsmjs-dev 2. download + patch + build of spidermonkey [...] If you apt-get install SpiderMonkey, you are not supposed to follow the instructions to build it yourself--you only need one copy of SpiderMonkey. I have now made this explicit in doc/ecmascript.txt. My first message in this thread was precisely to verify that I should use the tarball as specified in ecmascript.txt rather than use the spidermonkey .deb. To which you replied that I should follow the ecmascript.txt instructions. Since these instructions indicated that I needed to patch the source, I assumed that you meant that the .deb was not suitable. As a result I did a regular tarball install of spidermonkey. I replied to myself to clarify what I meant. Sorry for my initial response and that you missed my correction. [...] Thanks much for your patience. Where can I take a look at the updated ecmascript.txt..? http://pasky.or.cz/gitweb.cgi?p=elinks.git;a=blob;f=doc/ecmascript.txt There isn't really much to see--just a couple of short, new paragraphs. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:39:17PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 07:23:45PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: [..] As a result I did a regular tarball install of spidermonkey. I replied to myself to clarify what I meant. Sorry for my initial response and that you missed my correction. [...] Thanks much for your patience. Where can I take a look at the updated ecmascript.txt..? http://pasky.or.cz/gitweb.cgi?p=elinks.git;a=blob;f=doc/ecmascript.txt There isn't really much to see--just a couple of short, new paragraphs. $ apt-cache search spidermonkey libsmjs-dev - Development files for the SpiderMonkey JS library libsmjs1 - The Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScript library spidermonkey-bin - Binaries of the SpiderMonkey interpreter spidermonkey-dev - Migration package for the SpiderMonkey JS library spidermonkey1 - Migration package for the SpiderMonkey JS library .. mind you, this is debian stable (sarge).. and since the ecmascript.txt document only mentions testing and unstable, it may still be necessary to do a tarball install of spidermonkey(?) The instructions were old. I've now updated them for Sarge. Reload the URI above or see this for just the diffs: http://pasky.or.cz/gitweb.cgi?p=elinks.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b22a65ba94c53fad0600f5aa2cd97715c59360b To recap, the way I understand the new doc, what I should have done is: $ apt-get libsmjs1 libsmjs-dev spidermonkey-bin spidermonkey-dev spidermonkey-bin and spiderkmonkey-dev are unnecessary.. $ cd ../elinks; ./configure; make; make install .. with the result that libjs lib would have been installed in /usr/lib/ .. this making a non-issue of my ldconfig problem, right? Correct, except that it would be called libsmjs, not libjs. .. or did I also need to apt-get spidermonkey1? Nope. .. or would installing the two -dev packages have pulled all other necessary packages? `apt-get install libsmjs-dev` is adequate. At least to me this is still not very clearly explained in the revised version of the ecmascript.txt document. Is there anything more that should be clarified in the latest version? Anyway, just my 2cents.. Thanks Thanks for your suggestions, -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 04:39:53AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:42:29AM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: [..] No problem. The forgotten master session only explains one of the problems. I am still curious about how the configure script found SpiderMonkey, yet you had a binary that clearly was trying to link with a non-existent library. my *guess* is that elinks's configure script looks in all likely places.. and this includes the /usr/local tree. I still don't understand how /usr/local came into this--Debian packages should not store anything relevant under there. I'd like to understand these problems so that they might be avoided by other users. yes, but the libjs that elinks uses is not the standard debian lib.. I did a: $ find ../spidermonkey/js -name libjs.so -print .. and sure enough the lib is part of the sm tarball.. and the exact same size as the one in /usr/local/lib (550,952 bytes). Now, since prior to make-ing spidermonkey I set the $PREFIX to /usr/local - as specified in ecmascript.text, I would assume that this caused all binaries that come with sm to be eventually installed in the /usr/local tree.. including the libjs lib. Are you saying that prior to installing the Debian package, you had built SpiderMonkey yourself and put it in /usr/local? In any case, have fun with ECMAScript! Well.. that was pretty much what I was wondering earlier.. now it's installed what good is it..? I mean in the real world.. I would imagine that it should be transparent.. Stuff that didn't work before should now work. I should have kept my prior version of elinks some place.. continued using that until I ran into a js disabled problem and switched to this version to see the difference. It's really very late over here so I just can't think of any site where I tried to access some gadget-y link and got denied with the previous version. But as far as I can tell most pages seem to use js to add some gimmicky rendering stuff that's not compatible with a text mode browser anyway.. so I'm not so sure it's really going to make much difference. The support in ELinks is adequate for the occasional alert, ECMAScript-based redirect, some documents that use ECMAScript to manipulate forms or require ECMAScript to submit the forms, and some other small things that shouldn't require ECMAScript anyway. It is foremost the cool dynamic document manipulation that is not presently supported. There have been a few success stories, and if you have a particular site that doesn't work, you can report it on IRC or the list, and it is possible that we might be able to add the necessary capability, if it isn't said cool dynamic document manipulation stuff. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 05:43:01PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: There are some spidermonkey debs in the sarge repository. Are they of any use to elinks or should I follow the recommendations in ecmascript.txt and install sm from source? Follow the instructions. If the latter, has anyone done this recently and could confirm that the ecmascript.txt guide is up-to-date? I build ELinks on Debian with Debian's SpiderMonkey package. The instructions are up-to-date and should work in stable, testing, or unstable. In testing and unstable, the necessary packages are actually named libmozjs instead of libsmjs, but there are dummy packages with the old names that will pull in the packages with the new names, so the instructions in doc/ecmascript.txt still work in testing and unstable. Please report any problems on IRC or here on the list. Thanks, -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:32:41PM +, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 05:43:01PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: There are some spidermonkey debs in the sarge repository. Are they of any use to elinks or should I follow the recommendations in ecmascript.txt and install sm from source? Follow the instructions. [...] Sorry, that was an unclear answer. Follow the instructions that say to use apt-get. You don't need to do anything but apt-get install libsmjs-dev (libsmjs1 should automatically be pulled in with the -dev package), run ELinks's autogen.sh script (if you downloaded ELinks using GIT), run ELinks's configure script, and make. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:01:14PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 06:32:41PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: [..] Please report any problems on IRC or here on the list. The install went very smoothly - both sm and elinks. I checked what was specified in the install guide: libjs.so - libjs.so Ecmascript SpiderMonkey .. looked ok to me. When I tried to start the new version in /usr/local/bin: $ elinks .. gives me a elinks: error while loading shared libraries: libjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I did an ldconfig just in case.. no joy.. Then I did a $ dpkg -l *libjs* and it tells me this: pn libjs0 ... pn libjs0-dev pn libjsw-dev pn libjsw1.5 pn libjsw2 .. looks like the javascript libs are not installed..? Try `dpkg -l lib*js*`. libjs0 is an entirely different ECMAScript engine, one which ELinks does not support, while libjsw is some library for joysticks. The packages that you need are libsmjs1 and libsmjs-dev (for the current stable) or libmozjs0d and libmozjs-dev (for testing or unstable). What release of Debian are you using? It looks like the instructions need to be more explicit: if you can apt-get install libsmjs-dev, none of the other instructions need be followed. Should I apt-get any of these packages? Did you run `apt-get install libsmjs-dev`? Can you provide the output of `ldd elinks`? This will tell which libraries ELinks was built to use. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 08:42:05PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:18:52PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:01:14PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 06:32:41PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: [..] Try `dpkg -l lib*js*`. the entire output is: ii libijs-0.35 0.35-1 pn libijs-devnone pn libjs0none pn libjs0-devnone pn libjsw-devnone pn libjsw1.5 none pn libjsw2 none pn libkjsembed-dev none pn libkjsembed1 none pn libroxen-jsredirect none ii libsmjs-dev 1.5rc6a-1 ii libsmjs1 1.5rc6a-1 pn libtk-objscanner-perl none un libwfnetobjs-dev none pn libwfnetobjs0 none pn libwfnetobjs0-dev none [...] Can you provide the output of `ldd elinks`? This will tell which libraries ELinks was built to use. libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4002a000) libjs.so = not found libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x400f1000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x400f5000) libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x40107000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40127000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) [...] This is rather strange. Could you supply the output of these commands? find /usr/lib /lib /opt/spidermonkey /opt/js -name libjs\* -o -name libsmjs\* grep SPIDERMONKEY Makefile.config Could you also attach config.log? A possible work-around is to find this like in configure: for spidermonkeylib in js smjs; do and delete the word 'js'. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 08:56:59PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:18:52PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: ok.. what you said about the debian packages providing different support finally connected. I read the ldconfig manual.. took a quick look at /etc/ldconfig.so.conf and sure enough.. there was no /usr/local/lib.. There shouldn't be, unless you are using libraries that didn't come with Debian. Is it possible that you have an old copy of SpiderMonkey that you built yourself and put in /usr/local? So I added it.. ldconfig'd.. and elinks came up ok. Makes sense that by default debian stable only uses the trusted lib locations. Sorry I was unable to figure this out more promptly. Now what can I do to verify that ecma support actually works? Check the Help - About dialogue. It should list 'ECMAScript (SpiderMonkey)'. There are some test pages under test/ecmascript in the ELinks source tree. Note that while the SpiderMonkey library provides a complete language implementation, the interface by which scripts can manipulate the document (DOM) is not supported by ELinks, which severely hinders most document scripts. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] spidermonkey debs?
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:09:11AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 09:17:05PM EDT, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: [..] Now what can I do to verify that ecma support actually works? Check the Help - About dialogue. It should list 'ECMAScript (SpiderMonkey)'. There are some test pages under test/ecmascript in the ELinks source tree. Note that while the SpiderMonkey library provides a complete language implementation, the interface by which scripts can manipulate the document (DOM) is not supported by ELinks, which severely hinders most document scripts. could kick myself for wasting your time over this. I had left a gnu/screen session running on a linux console and this regrettably included an autostarted instance of my previous version of elinks. I had read somewhere about there being a master instance of elinks so-to-speak.. and that other instances just connect to this master instance. Obviously, I do not have any understanding of the implications beyond whatever you do.. don't leave an instance of elinks running when making changes.. never mind recompiling.. So I guess that's what caused all the fuss. In any event I now have the Sripting feature in the About dialogue and I'm not getting any more of these JavaScript is not enabled messages. Pity I can't remember any of the (few) instances where I ran into a problem when js was not enabled.. Thanks much for all the help and all apologies for the confusion. No problem. The forgotten master session only explains one of the problems. I am still curious about how the configure script found SpiderMonkey, yet you had a binary that clearly was trying to link with a non-existent library. I still don't understand how /usr/local came into this--Debian packages should not store anything relevant under there. I'd like to understand these problems so that they might be avoided by other users. In any case, have fun with ECMAScript! -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Local CGI Questions
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 03:44:59PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: Sorry for replying to my own post but an additional test of this CGI script with my local apache server did show a valid QUERY_STRING so it is inside elinks when it is always blank. Just an additional note. On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 03:08:19PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: I'm interested in developing some scripts to run locally with elinks as CGI. To begin with, I'm trying a really simple perl script that does little more than print the local environment with names and values of all environment variables. For whatever reason, the variable, QUERY_STRING is always even though I pass data in the URI. Here's how I test it for now. I just type elinks cgi-bin/printenv.cgi?value1value2 or other variants. I don't have any html or forms or any of that yet; I just wanna be sure I can pick up the environments and pass get and post variables. I have the option in elinks for CGI turned on and I have my bin set to ~/cgi-bin. This would be a cgi-bin in my own personal directory. Also, I'm using elinks version 0.11.1 and wonder if I'm doing this all wrong or if I'm doing it too simply or what. I do get all the other environment variables but QUERY_STRING is always blank no matter what I put in after the trailing question mark. ELinks is converting that argument to a URI, which process encodes the question mark and ampersands. In fact, don't you get a file-not-found error? Try providing a URI: elinks 'file:///home/me/cgi-bin/printenv.cgi?value1value2' Any ideas? I think elinks will be a wonderful tool for simple local apps where forms screens are needed. Indeed. GITweb and info2html are nifty CGI scripts, and Witek wrote a CGI script for FSP support before he implemented built-in support. I'd love to know of other useful CGI scripts that work with ELinks. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Local CGI Questions
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 07:20:04PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 01:41:58AM +, Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters wrote: ELinks is converting that argument to a URI, which process encodes the question mark and ampersands. In fact, don't you get a file-not-found error? Try providing a URI: elinks 'file:///home/me/cgi-bin/printenv.cgi?value1value2' Very interesting indeed. I tried using the whole path (with my own name of course) and it worked! I got a populated QUERY_STRING and some debugging stuff I added at the bottom using the CGI perl module started working too. I originally was using just 'cgi-bin/printenv?blabla' without the tick marks and I found the script ok but I had the problems previously noted. I thought the cgi-path was supposed to help without having to spell out the entire path of the original script. May that path comes in if I specify the name on a form action attribute or something. Anyway, this answer from you gets me past this herdle. Now on to some real CGI programming:). I messed with php some before but the neet thing about this CGI deal is I can run some full screen apps without having to run the apache server on this box and I don't have to master curses or any of that; just some good ol' simple console apps with workable forms. Gee, I could maybe even slip in some javascript:). But then again, I don't know javascript yet:). Anyhow, thanks again for the reply; this may do the trick. ELinks has to decide whether the arguments that are provided on the command line are regular paths or whether they are URIs. The heuristic is that if it parses as a URI, it is a URI; else, assume that it is a path and convert it to a URI. This conversion requires that special characters be encoded. Filenames can contain question marks, but the user might also mean question marks to mark query strings. The compromise in ELinks is simple, predictable, and usually intuitive (I think). We could do some fancy guesswork, checking whether the path up to the question mark identifies an existent file or whether the path including the question mark and the text after identifies an existent file, which might make it more intuitive (for some people) but would certainly diminish the predictability and simplicity. You can still use a relative path with a URI: elinks file:./public_html/cgi-bin/printenv?blabla HTH, -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] color schemes
If I may butt in... On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:33:48PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 05:33:05AM EDT, Jonas Fonseca wrote: cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Mon, Jun 05, 2006: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:08:37AM EDT, Jonas Fonseca wrote: I'm not really convinced 256 colors was such a good idea to begin with. Naturally, it's orders of magnitude better than the 8/8 or even 8/16 on regular terms.. But why not go the whole hog and have a terminal that supports what the video card is capable of? 16-bit - 64k colors would probably have been a sensible choice and made life easier for everybody? Only one extra byte per cell.. The onus is on the developers of the terminal emulators. I'm still waiting for 256-colour support on the Linux console. Someone posted a patch for something like this, using the X libraries. It never was polished to a degree where it was worth merging, tho'. Which patch was that? Interesting. Obviously 64k or 16M different colors doesn't make much difference. None that I can see anyway. I asked the xterm maintainer how the 256-color palette was chosen but he did not give me much detail. My personal concern was that the default xterm palette has very few blues. So if you try to harmonize the contents of an xterm with for instance the default background of Window Maker (I call it WindowMaker blue) you don't find an xterm color that is anywhere near. That's when I started taking an interest in these aspects. You can use X resources to change XTerm's palette. man xterm or look in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color (at least on Debian systems). Mind you, ELinks will not necessarily know that you've changed the colours, so if you weird things (change red to blue), it might reflect strangely in ELinks's rendering. Ok, but if you feel like modding up your ELinks you should really try the Spidermonkey Javascript scripting backend created by Miciah. It's fairly easy to get working on a debian system Really? I was never able to get xterm, gnu/scren, and elinks.. to build from source - the debian way, I mean.. I was in a rush and it seemed I had to become a debian packaging expert before I could hope to get that to work.. So now I have a bunch of stuff that's all /.configure'd and compiled from source. Annoying. I don't bother packaging ELinks; I just install to my home directory. You can install to /usr/local, or maybe try something like checkinstall (which is packaged in Debian). I can imagine. Only ever felt the need to compile school related stuff, elinks, git, (cogito), and xterm. The last one to get 256 colors, and I am still using the one I compiled on my previous debian system. This said, I'm very curious of the Javascript capabilities and I would really like to see the difference it makes. I do run into pages where I am stuck and I have to fire up mozilla and I suspect that not having Javascript enabled is part of my problem. Sorry, that I was not clear. I am talking about using JavaScript for browser scripting, not document scripting. Ok. I need to add JavaScript to the list of things I must look into. I'll check and see if there is an online tutorial available somewhere. My preferred tutorial is to read code. My preferred reference is http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/ecmascript/quickref/javascript_intro.html --note that that is oriented towards Web programming, tho. I should probably write some documentation for the browser scripting interfaces. That is, using JavaScript to define hooks that can handle stuff from the goto URL dialog or preformat the HTML source. Yes, but I do need it for page rendering as well..? Especially those home pages that have some sort of horizontal menu bar that ends up a vertical list of links in my setup? EMCAScript in documents shouldn't usually significantly affect the rendering of documents; normally it is more important towards functionality. Particularly in ELinks, which doesn't support enough ECMAScript to support the whiz-bang interfaces that really do depend on ECMAScript to dynamically generate content, add and hide stuff, and so on, you should see little difference in how a document is actually displayed based on whether you have ECMAScript enabled. The example of the mis-rendered menu bar is probably an issue of ELinks's limited CSS support. Having a sane default configuration is very important. The many options is a weakness if you end up scaring new users away. If they feel they have to know of all the little details. That's pretty much what I meant. But as a new user I only noticed all the options when I took a look at the elinks.conf file. But then I was in so much of a rush that I did not really look at the o - Option Manager until recently.. As a new user you hopefully will get a long way by only using the terminal option dialog (under Setup in the main
Re: [elinks-users] elinks 0.10.5 slow at resolving hostnames on Cygwin-X
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:02:49AM +0100, Andrew Preater wrote: * Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-05 01:58]: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 01:27:06AM +0100, Andrew Preater wrote: I have a problem with elinks under Cygwin-X on Win2000 SP4. I didn't find anything about it on the list on in the bugzilla, so here I am. :) When I load a url, elinks spends a long time looking up the hostname of the server: it will spend four or five seconds with the message 'Looking up host' in the status bar. This is reported as bug 691, 'Host lookup is slow', which probably should have its summary improved. There is a proposed work-around. Hi, Yes - I tried searching the bugzilla, but it didn't come up with anything. I was starting to think there *were* no bugs! Oh, ELinks has _plenty_ of bugs. Seriously, are you saying that the search is broken, or were you just having difficulty because of the poorly-titled report for bug 691? I see the I need to update it, and I will do so promptly. Please try the work-around and report whether it works along with information on your software configuration. I've tried it, and it worked perfectly. No hang when loading a url (any protocol). I pulled elinks from cvs, and made sure I had revision 1.126 of dns.c. [...] Thank you for confirming that the work-around works. Now somebody just needs to backport it so that it will be in the next 0.10 release. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] garbled error messages
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:15:13PM +0200, Jonas Fonseca wrote: Jon Shapcott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Fri, May 06, 2005: On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:47:47PM +0200, Jonas Fonseca wrote: Miciah Dashiel Butler Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Fri, May 06, 2005: - info_box(errterm, MSGBOX_NO_TEXT_INTL, + info_box(errterm, MSGBOX_NO_TEXT_INTL, MSGBOX_FREE_TEXT, MSGBOX_NO_TEXT_INTL | MSGBOX_FREE_TEXT, The two MSGBOX flags should be ORed together. It isn't like I had time to test it or anything. I figured that out when the compiler complained at me. Long time since I've hacked C, but those idioms still stick in the mind. Copying the string and telling the dialog to free it worked for me. Great! :) Miciah, will you commit the fix? Looks like 0.10 is also affected. I'll do it for both HEAD and 0.10. Although I'm still a little puzzled as to why it suddenly started. It was doing the same thing for both alert_lua_error and alert_lua_error2, even with the extra copying going on in alert_lua_error2. It could be that you were observing the problem when we passed in a string that came from Lua. Newer Lua versions might overwrite the memory sooner, or maybe the Lua code was changed in such a way that the string is collected sooner. As for alert_lua_error2, note that it frees the string after passing it to alert_lua_error. Due to ELinks' asynchronous nature, this means that it will free the string while ELinks is displaying it. The Lua C code has not gotten so much attention lately. But I agree this is a bit stupid. Thanks a lot for the help. I should return the favour, and maybe hack some on the unstable version. Both core.c and hooks.c get quite a lot shorter when you turn the cut'n'paste into functions, a drop some of the arcane passing of the global lua_State in and out of dialog events. Cut and paste? Arcana? I'd love to know more. Don't mind if you do. ;) Now to get those function references into the lua 5 api ... Huh? Ditto Jonas. -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Silent configuration changes in 0.10.4
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 08:18:17PM +0200, DervishD wrote: Hi all :) I've upgraded from 0.10.3 to 0.10.4 and some configuration items in my /etc/elinks.rc now fail (bad value). The first one is 'ui.timer.duration' which previously had a value of '0', meaning 'disable' (at least, that's what I supposed). Now it cannot have that value, but options.inc has not changed :?? I believe that this is because the default value for the -verbose command-line option was changed. This has been discussed on IRC, but nobody has done anything about it yet. The second is the binding of 'paste-clipboard' in the 'main' keymap. Of course it fails because paste-clipboard is defined *only* in the 'edit' keymap, but again, that has not changed from 0.10.3 and before it was allowed. I can see the logic beneath allowing copy-clipboard in the 'main' keymap but no paste-clipboard... What should paste-clipboard do in the main map? Should it try to load whatever URI is in the clipboard? [...] -- Miciah Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
