[Orgmode] Re: A few questions about how you write e-mails
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com writes: Firstly, I notice some of the regular posters wrap org source in the #+ style org wrappers, others use a --8--cut-here---8-- My first question is two-fold: 1) how did you come to use this style for quoting code in your replies: As others have mentioned, I use C-c M-m (message-mark-inserted-region) in message-mode to do the trick. Secondly, and somewhat related to the first, are orgsters simply using gnus with message-mode hook to utilize org footnotes? I've noticed I can style/face the text with a message-mode hook, but I'm wondering how everyone deals, in general, with plain text footnotes in e-mail? Do you even use footnotes for sharing links? I simply have a global binding for org-footnote-action, which enables me to insert footnotes anywhere.[1] Lastly, are any orgsters using gnus+gmail? I've tried just reading org list mails in gnus, but I find switching back and forth to be jarring if I read org list e-mails in a browser throughout the day, since I end up re-reading a lot of mails. Also, mind sharing how you've mapped the cumbersome B m [Gmail]/Trash to a better key? If a message is worth deleting, you might consider B DEL, which dispatches it without mercy. In the case of gmail imap it won't delete the mail completely instead it archives. Thanks and Regards Noorul ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A,#B,#C,#D
Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.605.gc540) Having set == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. Is this a config error? Thanks, Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] indent + showstars
On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:56 PM, bozo...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I'm just starting with org-mode and so far I like it very much. I have a question though: I like the indented view, but I also like that the number of stars gives me a quick visual indication of the level I'm in. So I tried setting #+STARTUP: indent #+STARTUP: showstars in order to get the following look * level 1 ** level 2 *** level 3 level 4 However, that does not seem to work. What am I doing wrong? org-indent-mode forces hiding stars. But of course that can be customized. in an Org buffer, select from the menu Org-Customize-Browse Org Group Click plus to open the Group Org Indent And see if there is an option you like. Cheers - Carsten Cheers, bozo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Org-Mode as authoring tool for Moodle courses
Hello, beeing still in the process of learning the amazing org-mode, I wonder if somebody has tried to use org-mode's publishing capacities as an authoring tool for the Online Learning Platform Moodle (http://www.moodle.org/http://www.moodle.de/), as a replacement for GUI-tools like eXeLearning (http://www.exelearning.org/http://www.exelearning.de/ )? eXeLearning is described as follows: The eXe project developed a freely available Open Source authoring application to assist teachers and academics in the publishing of web content without the need to become proficient in HTML or XML markup. Resources authored in eXe can be exported in IMS Content Package, SCORM 1.2, or IMS Common Cartridge formats or as simple self-contained web pages. org-mode definitely can publish self contained web-pages, and I guess all the functionality needed to to publish the other formats is already there. It would be extremely beneficial and efficient to be able to write whole moodle-courses in org-mode, maybe having some templates/stylesheets for typical course formats like the above mentioned IMS and SCORM (and others mentioned in the moodle manual: social format, topics format, weekly format). I would be very interested if somebody could share previous experiences about using org-mode for authoring moodle-courses. Since moodle is very popular, and online learning becomes increasingly important, beeing the most efficient authoring tool for moodle could potentially gain a lot of attention for org-mode. Thanks Thorsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h. 605.gc540) Having set = = = = = = = = == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... = = = = = = = = == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.605.gc540) Having set == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? Thanks! - Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h. 605.gc540) Having set = = = = = = = = = = Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... = = = = = = = = = = the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? What would be the intuitive meaning of default priority then? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timestamp with repeater interval
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:16:51 +0200, Rainer Thiel r.th...@uni-jena.de wrote: 2010/10/19 Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk: On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:53:45 +0200, Rainer Thiel r.th...@uni-jena.de wrote: Emacs - Calendar/Diary - Advanced Calendar/Diary usage - Sexp Diary Entries Thanks for trying to help out. I cannot discover any hint to how to define an end date for repeater intervals there, though. It is probably obvious to professional lisp programmers. But while I have done some lisp programming, this is not really my field. Rainer, Matt Lundin has just posted a respond (in another thread) which answers your question: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:31:04 -0400, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Christopher Witte ch...@witte.net.au writes: Is there a way to get timestamps that repeat (say weekly) up to a certain date when it stops repeating? I have a weekly appointment that will only go for the next 8 weeks and I don't want to have to input each appointment separately and I don't want it cluttering up my diary beyond it's end date. Though you can't yet do this with org-mode timestamps, you can use a diary sexp. Does the following FAQ help? http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#org-diary-class Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
Am 21.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.605.gc540) Having set == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? What would be the intuitive meaning of default priority then? - Carsten Well, I would have expected that if I define a priority #D as lowest priority it is not excluded from sorting. The meaning of the default priority is ok und understandable! - Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Aligning Columns in HTML Export Tables
On 10/21/10 2:25 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote: (...) |l |l |r | | A | B | C | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 12 | 13 | 300 | | 9 | 11 | 4 | I get colgroupcol align=left /col align=left /col align=right / /colgroup as expected. That's interesting. From the same example I get colgroupcol align=right /col align=right /col align=right //colgroup ...using freshly pulled 7.01trans. What might account for the difference? In Opera it works for me, if I remove the styles for `td' from my stylesheet. The styles for table data cells will overrule the align attribute in the col tag. Current Firefox seems to ignore the align attribute, although it's valid XHTML. Good for Opera! I think Firefox generally ignores colgroup styling. Doesn't work on Safari, either. CM ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h. 605.gc540) Having set = = = = = = = = = = = = == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... = = = = = = = = = = = = == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? What would be the intuitive meaning of default priority then? - Carsten Well, I would have expected that if I define a priority #D as lowest priority it is not excluded from sorting. It *is* included in the sorting. All #D's come after the #A's, #B's, and #C's. Only that all #D's includes all entries that have no specified priority. Within each main priority, the precise order of the entries is determined by other factors well, like if it is a deadline or an overdue scheduled item. That make the D's look random and the other not - but the same is going on everywhere. You can look at the computed priority (which is used for sorting) by pressing (I think) P on every item. Would you like to make a proposal for a paragraph in the manual to clarify this? Or are you proposing to change how this works? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: A few questions about how you write e-mails
suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: Hi! Also in my case, the footnotes appear below the signature. I have to manually move it above that before sending the email. Would be awesome if org-footnote-action understood signatures somehow. Hm, I don't use org-mode and its functions when writing mails using Gnus, but I enable footnote-mode in message-mode and then call `Footnote-add-footnote' and friends directly. That adds footnotes before the signature just as you want. test [1], test [2], ... I've checked my .emacs, but I don't have any special setup for making that work... Bye, Tassilo Footnotes: [1] foo [2] bar -- This is a test signature... ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Aligning Columns in HTML Export Tables
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Christian Moe wrote: On 10/21/10 2:25 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote: (...) |l |l |r | | A | B | C | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 12 | 13 | 300 | | 9 | 11 | 4 | I get colgroupcol align=left /col align=left /col align=right / /colgroup as expected. That's interesting. From the same example I get colgroupcol align=right /col align=right /col align=right //colgroup ...using freshly pulled 7.01trans. What might account for the difference? Actually, I also get what Christian gets. Sebastian, how did you get something different? Currently alignment is only by the fraction of number in the column, not by the l and r markers. Should be of cause... - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: A few questions about how you write e-mails
Hi Tassilo, On 21 October 2010 00:45, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: Hi! Also in my case, the footnotes appear below the signature. I have to manually move it above that before sending the email. Would be awesome if org-footnote-action understood signatures somehow. Hm, I don't use org-mode and its functions when writing mails using Gnus, but I enable footnote-mode in message-mode and then call `Footnote-add-footnote' and friends directly. That adds footnotes before the signature just as you want. test [1], test [2], ... This is exactly what I was looking for, I wasn't aware of footnode-mode. Thanks a lot!! :) Bye, Tassilo -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: A few questions about how you write e-mails
Hi Nick, On 20 October 2010 20:40, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Given the mangling that mailers do to replies (e.g. the idiotic default top posting of Thunderbird and its ilk), how they handle signatures, and the non-standard nature of signatures themselves, I'd say this is pretty much hopeless. After our discussion yesterday, I did some research. Didn't find anything +ve. I am considering switching to mutt. :) At least the end is a well defined place that org-footnote-action can always find. The rest are shifting sands. footnote-mode seems to do the trick exactly as I was hoping to. See Tassilo's response. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el (was: A few questions about how you write e-mails)
suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: Hi! Hm, I don't use org-mode and its functions when writing mails using Gnus, but I enable footnote-mode in message-mode and then call `Footnote-add-footnote' and friends directly. That adds footnotes before the signature just as you want. test [1], test [2], ... This is exactly what I was looking for, I wasn't aware of footnode-mode. Thanks a lot!! :) Oh, I was pretty sure that org-footnote.el is only a wrapper around the original footnote.el that comes with emacs, but looking at the code it seems to be a completely separate facility. It says to have better support for resuming editing than footnote.el but be less configurable. Can someone enlighten my what is meant with that better support for resuming editing? I mean, footnote.el already provides automatic renumbering which is the only special feature I can imagine to be of great use when resuming to edit a footnoted document... Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
I keep wanting to test out MobileOrg on my Android phone, but I'm having a heck of a time figuring out why the SD sync isn't working like I expect. I'd like to sync org files with a WebDAV server, if possible. I currently use Dropbox, but it doesn't offer WebDAV. I can mount a WebDAV server in the file system so it'll work *kind of* like Dropbox. I can't seem to find a straight solution through Google. Any suggestions? What do you use? -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
Well, I just answered my own question as far as getting MobileOrg to work... I just set the WebDAV directory to a local directory within Dropbox. I thought it had to be WebDAV (like that would make a difference). I'm still interested to know what everyone uses to sync working files, though. -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
[ ... ] Oh, I was pretty sure that org-footnote.el is only a wrapper around the original footnote.el that comes with emacs, but looking at the code it seems to be a completely separate facility. It says to have better support for resuming editing than footnote.el but be less configurable. Can someone enlighten my what is meant with that better support for resuming editing? I mean, footnote.el already provides automatic renumbering which is the only special feature I can imagine to be of great use when resuming to edit a footnoted document... Bye, Tassilo Hi Tassilo, common footnote.el was never able to detect if a file opened has already footnote inside. Didn't check that for some month now... Also org-footnote implemented labeled footnotes, very useful to avoid clashes with forms like list[1] BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. cc to emacs-devel for this. Cheers Andreas -- https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/python-mode-components https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
Am 21.10.2010 09:39, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.605.gc540) Having set == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? What would be the intuitive meaning of default priority then? - Carsten Well, I would have expected that if I define a priority #D as lowest priority it is not excluded from sorting. It *is* included in the sorting. All #D's come after the #A's, #B's, and #C's. Only that all #D's includes all entries that have no specified priority. Within each main priority, the precise order of the entries is determined by other factors well, like if it is a deadline or an overdue scheduled item. That make the D's look random and the other not - but the same is going on everywhere. You can look at the computed priority (which is used for sorting) by pressing (I think) P on every item. Would you like to make a proposal for a paragraph in the manual to clarify this? Or are you proposing to change how this works? - Carsten My guessing is that a naive user (like me ...) does expect any defined priority (like #D in this case) to have a higher priority than a non priority item. If more users see it this way I would propose a change, if not I would suggest a short hint in the manual. - Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:39, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.605.gc540) Having set = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? What would be the intuitive meaning of default priority then? - Carsten Well, I would have expected that if I define a priority #D as lowest priority it is not excluded from sorting. It *is* included in the sorting. All #D's come after the #A's, #B's, and #C's. Only that all #D's includes all entries that have no specified priority. Within each main priority, the precise order of the entries is determined by other factors well, like if it is a deadline or an overdue scheduled item. That make the D's look random and the other not - but the same is going on everywhere. You can look at the computed priority (which is used for sorting) by pressing (I think) P on every item. Would you like to make a proposal for a paragraph in the manual to clarify this? Or are you proposing to change how this works? - Carsten My guessing is that a naive user (like me ...) does expect any defined priority (like #D in this case) to have a higher priority than a non priority item. I see how that makes sense. However, the other use case is this: Use #A to make something higher priority. Use #C to make it lower than any normal stuff. All the rest mingles in #B. So your proposal makes the assumption that any priority means more than no priority. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
Hi Jeff, Well, I just answered my own question as far as getting MobileOrg to work... I just set the WebDAV directory to a local directory within Dropbox. I thought it had to be WebDAV (like that would make a difference). I'm still interested to know what everyone uses to sync working files, though. I've got my Android rooted and have a ssh server running there. Then I use the following hooks to run the scp command to copy the files back and forth. (setq org-mobile-post-push-hook '(lambda () (shell-command scp ~/org/mobile/*.org magic_home:/sdcard/stage) )) (setq org-mobile-pre-pull-hook '(lambda () (shell-command scp magic_home:/sdcard/mobileorg/mobileorg.org /home/hw/org/mobile) ) ) So my org files never leave my network and all traffic is encrypted. There is an ftp-server available for Android phones that should let you do similar things, if you didn't root your phone. Holger ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
Hi Jeff, On 21.10.2010, at 10:38, Jeff Horn wrote: Well, I just answered my own question as far as getting MobileOrg to work... I just set the WebDAV directory to a local directory within Dropbox. I thought it had to be WebDAV (like that would make a difference). I'm still interested to know what everyone uses to sync working files, though. I'm using mydisk.se, which is a free WebDAV service. -- Jean ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org-Mode as authoring tool for Moodle courses
Gruenderteam Berlin gruenderteam.ber...@googlemail.com writes: Hello, beeing still in the process of learning the amazing org-mode, This never ends ;-) I wonder if somebody has tried to use org-mode's publishing capacities as an authoring tool for the Online Learning Platform Moodle We had tried to use moodle at our division before I learnt about org-mode, and frankly speaking I didn't like moodle that much. Today, I prepare and publish my courses with org-mode as standalone web-pages. Considering endless capabilities and flexibility of org-mode, moodle just scares me. Take for example grading. Org's spreadsheet (or column-view, I have to try it out myself) is by far more convenient to use than moodles tables. OK, that's enough, I suppose you'd like to read something more constructive. As I said I haven't done this myself but this is how I imagine this can be done, here and now with as little elisp coding as possible. 1. Create org files in a directory structure resembling the structure of the SCORM zip file. That's obvious. 2. Set up a publishing project [[info:org:Publishing]] 3. Add static content (scripts, images) that will be published with org-publish-attachment function. 4. Create a script (this might imho be a shell script) that generates manifest file. Launch it after publishing using :completion-function project parameter. The script may create a zip file too. And upload it... too ;-) What I don't know (as I browse through a SCORM zip for the second time in my life) is what are all xsd files for and how to create them. Are they optional? Does their content depend on the contents of the course? If it does then elisp coding might be inevitable, however, since org generates XHTML it can be reliably parsed with some external tools. If I had to use moodle today I definitely would use org-mode for html authoring: exporting to a temporary HTML buffer and then c'n'p to a browser window. I know that's not much but I hope I wrote something you haven't known already or at least I give you a new idea how to put things together. -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Andreas Röhler andreas.roeh...@easy-emacs.de writes: Hi Andreas, Oh, I was pretty sure that org-footnote.el is only a wrapper around the original footnote.el that comes with emacs, but looking at the code it seems to be a completely separate facility. It says to have better support for resuming editing than footnote.el but be less configurable. Can someone enlighten my what is meant with that better support for resuming editing? I mean, footnote.el already provides automatic renumbering which is the only special feature I can imagine to be of great use when resuming to edit a footnoted document... common footnote.el was never able to detect if a file opened has already footnote inside. Didn't check that for some month now... Yes, I've just tried that. Create a file with footnotes, save it, kill the buffer, find it again, add another footnote, and it starts numbering from [1] again. Looks like a bug to me. I'll report it... Also org-footnote implemented labeled footnotes, very useful to avoid clashes with forms like list[1] BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to your mail. Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
Am 21.10.2010 11:01, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:39, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Hi all, maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.605.gc540) Having set == Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) State: STANDARD. Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally set a priority. Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A State: STANDARD. The highest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The lowest priority of TODO items. A character like ?A, ?B etc. More Org Default Priority: Hide Value D State: SAVED and set. The default priority of TODO items. More resulting correctly in (custom-set-variables ... '(org-highest-priority 65) '(org-default-priority 68) '(org-lowest-priority 68) ... == the custom agenda command (Tp all todos sorted by prio ( (alltodo all todos )) ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending, but will then mix up the rest of the todos with #D or without priority. #D does not seem to be included in the sorting. The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do have the default priority. If you need 4 priorities all higher than normal tasks, make E your lowest and default priority - Carsten Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? What would be the intuitive meaning of default priority then? - Carsten Well, I would have expected that if I define a priority #D as lowest priority it is not excluded from sorting. It *is* included in the sorting. All #D's come after the #A's, #B's, and #C's. Only that all #D's includes all entries that have no specified priority. Within each main priority, the precise order of the entries is determined by other factors well, like if it is a deadline or an overdue scheduled item. That make the D's look random and the other not - but the same is going on everywhere. You can look at the computed priority (which is used for sorting) by pressing (I think) P on every item. Would you like to make a proposal for a paragraph in the manual to clarify this? Or are you proposing to change how this works? - Carsten My guessing is that a naive user (like me ...) does expect any defined priority (like #D in this case) to have a higher priority than a non priority item. I see how that makes sense. However, the other use case is this: Use #A to make something higher priority. Use #C to make it lower than any normal stuff. All the rest mingles in #B. So your proposal makes the assumption that any priority means more than no priority. - Carsten I see what you mean. Maybe some orgees could indicate which use case they think is preferred. - Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [Bug?] Mark subtrees and inline tasks
#+TITLE: Mark subtree forgets about last line #+AUTHOR:Seb Vauban #+LANGUAGE: en_US * Selecting this subtree To select this subtree, I use =C-c @=. It does its job, except that it never selects the last line. OK; just C-x C-x, add a line, and that's it. Feature? Bug? * The next headline Same problem, though more problematic IMHO, with the inline tasks. *** Check how the selection works I'd expect the END line to be selected as well. It's not. *** END Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: common footnote.el was never able to detect if a file opened has already footnote inside. Didn't check that for some month now... Yes, I've just tried that. Create a file with footnotes, save it, kill the buffer, find it again, add another footnote, and it starts numbering from [1] again. Looks like a bug to me. I'll report it... Done as bug#7258. Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Hi Carsten,
key-setting below looks like a bug
if
C-c /, org-sparse-tree
is set, there is no chance calling
C-c / r
as the first already matches (?)
Thanks
Andreas
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2.6 Sparse trees
...
@orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating command.
@kindex C-c / r
@item C-c / r
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[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Hi Andreas, On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Hi Carsten, key-setting below looks like a bug if C-c /, org-sparse-tree is set, there is no chance calling C-c / r as the first already matches (?) C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in the manual, and I will take a look at those later. So when there is an entry for `C-c /', describe it as org-sparse-tree. When it is `C-c / r' you can leave it as it was, and I will fix it. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Aw: Re: [Bulk] [Orgmode] Integrating Apple Mail.
Hi Anthony, works perfect! Thanks a lot, Oliver - Original Nachricht Von: Anthony Lander anthonylan...@yahoo.com An: Oliver Pappert papp...@arcor.de Datum: 21.10.2010 00:39 Betreff: Re: [Bulk] [Orgmode] Integrating Apple Mail. Hi Oliver, On 10-Oct-20, at 10:35 AM, Oliver Pappert wrote: Hi, I have problem to integrate Apple Mail in Emacs: It might be easier to do this through the org-modules customization: M-x customize-group RET org RET Then in the Org Modules section, enable mac-message. You might also consider enabling mac-link-grabber, which will enable you to easily insert links from other mac applications as well. From there, you only have to define your mail account, and if you want to use the link grabber, a keybinding, like this: (setq org-mac-mail-account account-name) (add-hook 'org-mode-hook '(lambda () (define-key org-mode-map (kbd C- c g) 'omgl-grab-link))) Hope this helps, -Anthony ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Another possible error for in-line math parsing
Hi Jeff, On Oct 20, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Jeff Horn wrote: Carsten et al, Possible error when escaping dollar sign in inline-math. When using the following org source: -- Supposing $C_H=\$10$ and $C_L=\$20$. ... $.30(\$50)+.70(\$20)=\$29$ Org-mode will never be a perfect TeX scanner, and this is really hard. Help yourself and Org by using \( and \) as math delimiters when you wish to include dollar characters inside HTH - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: ordered lists after unordered
Hello, Richard Lawrence writes: I think I've found a bug with the way org-meta-return behaves. I occasionally need to follow an unordered list by an ordered list, without any intervening text. For example: * Some heading - unordered - unordered - unordered 1) ordered I am using Org version 7.01trans. This behavior has been fixed in development version of Org mode. You may upgrade. By the way, please note that, by default, you now need to insert two blank lines to separate lists (that is unless you set `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' to t). Regards, -- Nicolas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Am 21.10.2010 12:51, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
Hi Andreas,
On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
Hi Carsten,
key-setting below looks like a bug
if
C-c /, org-sparse-tree
is set, there is no chance calling
C-c / r
as the first already matches (?)
C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key.
Many do.
Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category.
Is it wise to do it that way?
For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys.
Are reasons for this?
Sincerely undecided here, just a question.
To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in the
manual,and I will take a look at those later.
Remains something to do anyway IMHO.
First a creating command is mentioned, after it says showing.
@orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating command.
;;;
@kindex C-c / r
@item C-c / r
@vindex org-remove-highlights-with-change
Occur. Prompts for a regexp and shows a sparse tree with all matches. If
;
Seeing a contradiction in so far, when the second command is on the top
of the first, whose key has been hitten...
Understand: first I must create, to get a show. But can't I have show
on base of a before created?
I'll proceed anyway...
Thanks being patient :-)
Andreas
So when there is an entry
for `C-c /', describe it as org-sparse-tree. When it is `C-c / r' you
can leave it as it was, and I will fix it.
- Carsten
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[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
Am 21.10.2010 12:51, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
Hi Andreas,
On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
Hi Carsten,
key-setting below looks like a bug
if
C-c /, org-sparse-tree
is set, there is no chance calling
C-c / r
as the first already matches (?)
C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on
that key.
Many do.
Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category.
Is it wise to do it that way?
For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys.
Are reasons for this?
Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number
of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-
c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For
interactive use, I think this is just perfect.
Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you
want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I
like to have them in the manual, for look up.
Sincerely undecided here, just a question.
To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in the
manual,and I will take a look at those later.
Remains something to do anyway IMHO.
First a creating command is mentioned, after it says showing.
@orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating
command.
;;;
@kindex C-c / r
@item C-c / r
@vindex org-remove-highlights-with-change
Occur. Prompts for a regexp and shows a sparse tree with all
matches. If
In this end, this should simply be
@orgcmd{C-c / r, org-occur}
Because the dispatcher command will call this command after r has
been pressed.
But as I said, I can do these indirect calls pretty easily, I know
most of them by heart.
- Carsten
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[Orgmode] Subtle bug with capture and refile
The new org capture has been working great but I have just come across a subtle bug that has taken me a while to reliably reproduce. I have org set up to add TODO captures to the top of my organiser.org file. If you try and refile the capture TODO and the cursor is at the bottom of the capture buffer, it will refile the next item in organiser.org and not the capture TODO. Hmm, that doesn't sound too clear, let me try and give an example. My organiser.org looks like this: -organiser.org- * Home ** Home item 1 ** Home item 2 * Work ** Work item 1 I then make a capture TODO -capture buffer- * TODO report capture buffer bug ! with the cursor indicated by ! I press C-c C-w and refile to work. Instead of the capture note being refiled, Home get refiled so I end up with organiser.org looking like: -organiser.org- *TODO report capture buffer bug * Work ** Home *** Home item 1 *** Home item 2 ** Work item 1 if instead the cursor is on the TODO line when I refile, everything works as expect and I end up with: -organiser.org- * Home ** Home item 1 ** Home item 2 * Work ** TODO report capture buffer bug ** Work item 1 This has been causing me problems for a while now, but I could never work out why this only happened some of the time. I hope that explains the problem with sufficient clarity, let me know if it doesn't. Cheers Chris Witte. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [PATCH] Update all ++ repeaters in an entry (loop variables weren't getting reset)
See http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg30284.html. This patch is against release_7.01h. ajk --- lisp/org.el | 20 ++-- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el index d33bf4e..52e501e 100644 --- a/lisp/org.el +++ b/lisp/org.el @@ -11369,7 +11369,6 @@ This function is run automatically after each state change to a DONE state. (msg Entry repeats: ) (org-log-done nil) (org-todo-log-states nil) -(nshiftmax 10) (nshift 0) re type n what ts time to-state) (when repeat (if (eq org-log-repeat t) (setq org-log-repeat 'state)) @@ -11416,15 +11415,16 @@ This function is run automatically after each state change to a DONE state. (- (time-to-days (current-time)) (time-to-days time)) 'day)) ((equal (match-string 1 ts) +) - (while (or (= nshift 0) -(= (time-to-days time) (time-to-days (current-time - (when (= (incf nshift) nshiftmax) - (or (y-or-n-p (message %d repeater intervals were not enough to shift date past today. Continue? nshift)) - (error Abort))) - (org-timestamp-change n (cdr (assoc what whata))) - (org-at-timestamp-p t) - (setq ts (match-string 1)) - (setq time (save-match-data (org-time-string-to-time ts + (let ((nshiftmax 10) (nshift 0)) + (while (or (= nshift 0) + (= (time-to-days time) (time-to-days (current-time + (when (= (incf nshift) nshiftmax) + (or (y-or-n-p (message %d repeater intervals were not enough to shift date past today. Continue? nshift)) + (error Abort))) + (org-timestamp-change n (cdr (assoc what whata))) + (org-at-timestamp-p t) + (setq ts (match-string 1)) + (setq time (save-match-data (org-time-string-to-time ts) (org-timestamp-change (- n) (cdr (assoc what whata))) ;; rematch, so that we have everything in place for the real shift (org-at-timestamp-p t) -- 1.7.3.1 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: My guessing is that a naive user (like me ...) does expect any defined priority (like #D in this case) to have a higher priority than a non priority item. I see how that makes sense. However, the other use case is this: Use #A to make something higher priority. Use #C to make it lower than any normal stuff. All the rest mingles in #B. So your proposal makes the assumption that any priority means more than no priority. The default aBc settings were easily understandable to me and I use A to mark things high and C low and leave most things in the middle. So maybe all that's needed is a You might expect tasks with an explicit priority to all be considered higher priority than tasks without an explicit priority, but in fact unlabeled tasks inherit the default priority. Or maybe that's redundant. pgpkbbaoZhQOS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com writes: I keep wanting to test out MobileOrg on my Android phone, but I'm having a heck of a time figuring out why the SD sync isn't working like I expect. I'd like to sync org files with a WebDAV server, if possible. I currently use Dropbox, but it doesn't offer WebDAV. I can mount a WebDAV server in the file system so it'll work *kind of* like Dropbox. The org mode part just needs to have a directory it can put files into so that the client can access them. Then the mobileorg client has to get at them. So you have to have someplace where you can make both work. I think the options are * dropbox Use a dropbox client locally, to make dropbox space appear to be part of local filesystem, and just set org-mobile-directory to be in there. MobileOrg (iphone) has support for that; not sure about android versoin. I think it's ridiculous to use a 3rd party server without encrypting your org files, but of course your privacy views may be different. * local apache I have an org setup where I have org-mobile-directory set to ~/ORG-dav, which is just a directory on my disk (NetBSD, UFS2, nothing fancy). I have apache configured to put that directory into the webspace, and configure MobileOrg to do webdav there, and set up .htaccess. I have to be careful to set up permissions so apache as www/www can access the files - it's a bit hairy. * remote apache with ssh I have another org setup where I have org-mobile-directory set: (setq org-mobile-directory /ssh:foo.example.com:/usr/home/gdt/ORG) which causes org-mobile to use tramp to place/fetch the files. I then have the same apache setup. * remote apache with a dav fs I haven't set this up, but it should be possible to use a webdav fs (fuse, etc.) on the computer with the org files to be the staging area, so that emacs will write over dav. This is pleasing from a permission point of view, because then the files that apache deals with are accessed by two webdav clients with the same credentials, and the apache permission scheme and the unix permission scheme don't have to be deconflicted. My apache setup is striaght by the book, with htdigest. DavLockDB /usr/pkg/var/httpd/DavLock Alias /org/gdt /home/gdt/ORG-dav Directory /home/gdt/ORG-dav Options Indexes AllowOverride AuthConfig Order allow,deny Allow from all DAV On AuthType Digest AuthName special-auth-name AuthDigestFile someplace Limit GET PUT POST DELETE PROPFIND PROPPATCH MKCOL COPY MOVE LOCK UNLOCK Require valid-user /Limit /Directory pgpN3tbFcxlF3.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: [ ... ] C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category. Is it wise to do it that way? For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys. Are reasons for this? Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For interactive use, I think this is just perfect. Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I like to have them in the manual, for look up. Hi, I'm following, thanks for the explanation. Remains a describe-mode bug than (?) I would not call it a bug. Describe-mode looks at the key maps, it cannot look into the functions. Cheers - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Aligning Columns in HTML Export Tables
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Christian Moe wrote: On 10/21/10 2:25 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote: (...) |l |l |r | | A | B | C | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 12 | 13 | 300 | | 9 | 11 | 4 | I get colgroupcol align=left /col align=left /col align=right / /colgroup as expected. That's interesting. From the same example I get colgroupcol align=right /col align=right /col align=right //colgroup ...using freshly pulled 7.01trans. What might account for the difference? Actually, I also get what Christian gets. Sebastian, how did you get something different? I guess I just didn't pull for a few days. Nononono, just kidding :) I tried my own table, which is different: a) The l line is the last one. b) There's an empty extra column, the first one, as the docs propose. This column contains in the first cell of the l | r line a slash: | | A | B | C | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | | 12 | 13 | 300 | | | 9 | 11 | 4 | | / | l | l | r | All this does not help. But the third difference might be the key: c) The table is a captured column view (#+BEGIN: columnview...) with 293 lines. Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
[ ... ]
C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that
key.
Many do.
Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category.
Is it wise to do it that way?
For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys.
Are reasons for this?
Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number
of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c
/' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For
interactive use, I think this is just perfect.
Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you
want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I
like to have them in the manual, for look up.
Hi,
I'm following, thanks for the explanation.
Remains a describe-mode bug than (?)
Sincerely undecided here, just a question.
To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in the
manual,and I will take a look at those later.
Remains something to do anyway IMHO.
First a creating command is mentioned, after it says showing.
@orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating command.
;;;
@kindex C-c / r
@item C-c / r
@vindex org-remove-highlights-with-change
Occur. Prompts for a regexp and shows a sparse tree with all matches. If
In this end, this should simply be
@orgcmd{C-c / r, org-occur}
May you update the doku?
BTW if the first key branches to other key, would help folks like me to
know... Maybe saying: Is a generic key invoking...
Because the dispatcher command will call this command after r has been
pressed.
But as I said, I can do these indirect calls pretty easily, I know most
of them by heart.
Thanks. Should get it from var last-command already.
- Carsten
Still an issue:
No brand of Emacs org-mode knows org-occur here
M-x where-is org-occur
==
org-occur is not on any key
Also when C-c / is pressed, there is no `r'-key displayed,
see screenshot.
Andreas
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Aligning Columns in HTML Export Tables
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Christian Moe wrote: On 10/21/10 2:25 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote: (...) |l |l |r | | A | B | C | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 12 | 13 | 300 | | 9 | 11 | 4 | I get colgroupcol align=left /col align=left /col align=right / /colgroup as expected. That's interesting. From the same example I get colgroupcol align=right /col align=right /col align=right //colgroup ...using freshly pulled 7.01trans. What might account for the difference? Actually, I also get what Christian gets. Sebastian, how did you get something different? I guess I just didn't pull for a few days. Nononono, just kidding :) I tried my own table, which is different: a) The l line is the last one. b) There's an empty extra column, the first one, as the docs propose. This column contains in the first cell of the l | r line a slash: | | A | B | C | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | | 12 | 13 | 300 | | | 9 | 11 | 4 | | / | l | l | r | All this does not help. But the third difference might be the key: c) The table is a captured column view (#+BEGIN: columnview...) with 293 lines. Well, OK, forget it... It was just that my ls and rs matched with the sensible thing to do for each column. Seems it's just looking at the numbers and says OK, numbers only, right aligned, just as you said in a previous mail. | | A | B| C | |---+-+--+--| | | 1 | bar | text | | | 12 | test | 300 | | | 9 | foo |4 | | / | l | l | r | gives us colgroupcol align=right /col align=left /col align=left / /colgroup Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
RE: [Orgmode] link export confused when URL parameter is another URL
David, Thanks for your sleuthing. I've not been digging on orgmode internals, so I defer to you of course. But it seems to me that the [[link][text]] pattern might provide a context in which embedded links are not sought (i.e. there is no link internal to top-level link). Just a thought perhaps expressible as a context-free-grammar. Cheers back, Malcolm -Original Message- From: David Maus [mailto:dm...@ictsoc.de] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:36 PM To: Cook, Malcolm Cc: 'emacs-orgmode@gnu.org' Subject: Re: [Orgmode] link export confused when URL parameter is another URL At Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:00 -0500, Cook, Malcolm wrote: If find that this orgtext [[http://www.foo.com/foo?URL=http://www.bar.com][test]] exports to html incorrectly as [[http://www.foo.com/foo?URL=[[http://www.bar.com][test][http://www.ba r.com][test]]] using today's fresh git pull make install Any pointers? The problem here is that Org's (legacy) support for plain links (i.e. without square brackets) kicks in and transforms the fragment part to a normal square bracket link. My regexp-foo is not as it should be, but I am on this one to fix it; What we need to express in `org-export-normalize-link' is, that a plain link is something that looks like a hyperlink but not preceded directly by a square or angle bracket and not after a question mark followed by zero or more no-whitespace-characters. Best, -- David -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber dmj...@jabber.org Email. dm...@ictsoc.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Am 21.10.2010 15:00, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: [ ... ] C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category. Is it wise to do it that way? For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys. Are reasons for this? Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For interactive use, I think this is just perfect. Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I like to have them in the manual, for look up. Hi, I'm following, thanks for the explanation. Remains a describe-mode bug than (?) I would not call it a bug. Describe-mode looks at the key maps, it cannot look into the functions. OK, but can't you make it known to the keymap? Cheers ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Am 21.10.2010 15:00, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: [ ... ] C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category. Is it wise to do it that way? For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys. Are reasons for this? Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For interactive use, I think this is just perfect. Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I like to have them in the manual, for look up. Hi, I'm following, thanks for the explanation. Remains a describe-mode bug than (?) I would not call it a bug. Describe-mode looks at the key maps, it cannot look into the functions. OK, but can't you make it known to the keymap? No, I cannot. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Am 21.10.2010 16:04, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Am 21.10.2010 15:00, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: [ ... ] C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category. Is it wise to do it that way? For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys. Are reasons for this? Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For interactive use, I think this is just perfect. Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I like to have them in the manual, for look up. Hi, I'm following, thanks for the explanation. Remains a describe-mode bug than (?) I would not call it a bug. Describe-mode looks at the key maps, it cannot look into the functions. OK, but can't you make it known to the keymap? No, I cannot. - Carsten Ah, we can, I'm sure. Let's assume you assigned the same keys to different commands. Somehow Emacs must discriminate the states where the one or the other are to use. So let's call these states modes, make a keymap for it, no? Andreas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [Babel] [Ann] varied updates and improvements
Hello Babblers, I've just merged in a large group of changes to Babel (authored by Dan and myself) including a couple of user-visible enhancements and a significant cleanup of the code base. More information is available in the Changes.org file (relevant sections included below). Best -- Eric Incompatible Changes = Code block hashes -- Due to changes in the code resolving code block header arguments hashing of code block results should now re-run a code block when an argument to the code block has changed. As a result of this change *all* code blocks with cached results will be re-run after upgrading to the latest version. Testing update --- Anyone using the org-mode test suite will need to update the jump repository for test navigation by executing the following from the root of the org-mode repository. git submodule update Failure to update this repository will cause loading of org-test.el to throw errors. Details Multi-line header arguments to code blocks --- Code block header arguments can now span multiple lines using the new =#+header:= or =#+headers:= lines preceding a code block or nested in between the name and body of a named code block. Examples are given below. - multi-line header arguments on an un-named code block #+headers: :var data1=1 #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var data2=2 (message data1:%S, data2:%S data1 data2) #+end_src #+results: : data1:1, data2:2 - multi-line header arguments on a named code block #+source: named-block #+header: :var data=2 #+begin_src emacs-lisp (message data:%S data) #+end_src #+results: named-block : data:2 Unified handling of variable expansion for code blocks --- The code used to resolve variable references in code block header arguments has now been consolidated. This both simplifies the code base (especially the language-specific files), and ensures that the arguments to a code block will not be evaluated multiple times. This change should not be externally visible to the Org-mode user. Improved Caching - Code block caches now notice if the value of a variable argument to the code block has changed, if this is the case the cache is invalidated and the code block is re-run. The following example can provide intuition for the new behavior. #+srcname: random #+begin_src R :cache yes runif(1) #+end_src #+results[a2a72cd647ad44515fab62e144796432793d68e1]: random 0.4659510825295 #+srcname: caller #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var x=random :cache yes x #+end_src #+results[bec9c8724e397d5df3b696502df3ed7892fc4f5f]: caller 0.254227238707244 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Am 21.10.2010 16:04, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Am 21.10.2010 15:00, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: [ ... ] C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category. Is it wise to do it that way? For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys. Are reasons for this? Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For interactive use, I think this is just perfect. Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I like to have them in the manual, for look up. Hi, I'm following, thanks for the explanation. Remains a describe-mode bug than (?) I would not call it a bug. Describe-mode looks at the key maps, it cannot look into the functions. OK, but can't you make it known to the keymap? No, I cannot. - Carsten Ah, we can, I'm sure. Let's assume you assigned the same keys to different commands. Somehow Emacs must discriminate the states where the one or the other are to use. So let's call these states modes, make a keymap for it, no? Hi Andreas, We could make C-c / a prefix and define the other commands in the keymap of the prefix command. But this would defeat the purpose of the dispatcher with its friendly prompt etc. In fact, I do not want describe-mode to show all these. I have thought carefully about this. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
Hello,
I am new to org-mode and I have a few issues with it. First, I am running
org-mode version 5.23a from Emacs 22.3.1 on a Linux RedHat machine.
1.- Following advice in the org manual I added the following lines to my
.emacs.
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org\\' . org-mode))
(global-set-key \C-cl 'org-store-link)
(global-set-key \C-ca 'org-agenda)
(global-set-key \C-cb 'org-iswitchb)
(setq org-log-done t)
when I open a *.org file, org-mode is turned on OK. But none of the
org-export-latex-* variables are defined at this point?
Now if I do C-c C-e l then a LaTeX file is produced, not with the options I
want though (see point 2), and some of the org-export-latex-* variables
seemed to be defined now; for example org-export-latex-classes is defined
with the default definition, but not all LaTeX related variables are
defined, for example org-export-latex-default-packages-alist is not
defined; henced I can't even find out what are the default packages?
What is going on here? Do I have something missing in my .emacs file?
2.- Now, I want to use different packages, for example
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[english, francais]{babel}
I posted about this yesterday and I got the following reply from Thomas S.
Dye, thanks Thomas,
Perhaps the org-export-latex-classes variable is mis-configured. IIUC, the
[EXTRA] macro needs to be present:
If you need more control about the sequence in which the header is
built
up, or if you want to exclude one of these building blocks for a
particular
class, you can use the following macro-like placeholders.
[DEFAULT-PACKAGES] \usepackage statements for default packages
[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES] do not include any of the default packages
[PACKAGES] \usepackage statements for packages
[NO-PACKAGES] do not include the packages
[EXTRA] the stuff from #+LaTeX_HEADER
[NO-EXTRA] do not include #+LaTeX_HEADER stuff
[BEAMER-HEADER-EXTRA] the beamer extra headers
Unfortunaetly this is not enough details for my little knowledge of elisp!
Could someone provide me with a clear example of what needs to go in the
.emacs file for packages with options and correspondingly what needs to go
in the org file for that example. Does the .emacs file needs to be
modified every time one wants to add a new package?
Thanks for any support,
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[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Am 21.10.2010 16:31, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Am 21.10.2010 16:04, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: Am 21.10.2010 15:00, schrieb Carsten Dominik: On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote: [ ... ] C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on that key. Many do. Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style category. Is it wise to do it that way? For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys. Are reasons for this? Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just `C-c /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For interactive use, I think this is just perfect. Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I like to have them in the manual, for look up. Hi, I'm following, thanks for the explanation. Remains a describe-mode bug than (?) I would not call it a bug. Describe-mode looks at the key maps, it cannot look into the functions. OK, but can't you make it known to the keymap? No, I cannot. - Carsten Ah, we can, I'm sure. Let's assume you assigned the same keys to different commands. Somehow Emacs must discriminate the states where the one or the other are to use. So let's call these states modes, make a keymap for it, no? Hi Andreas, We could make C-c / a prefix and define the other commands in the keymap of the prefix command. But this would defeat the purpose of the dispatcher with its friendly prompt etc. In fact, I do not want describe-mode to show all these. I have thought carefully about this. - Carsten OK, you are the mastermind :-) There is a bug-report still an-responded. Been sent with mail at 14:42 Missing org-occur, no key displayed as expected. Andreas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
gerald.j...@dgag.ca writes:
Hi Gerald,
1.- Following advice in the org manual I added the following lines to my
.emacs.
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org\\' . org-mode))
(global-set-key \C-cl 'org-store-link)
(global-set-key \C-ca 'org-agenda)
(global-set-key \C-cb 'org-iswitchb)
(setq org-log-done t)
when I open a *.org file, org-mode is turned on OK. But none of the
org-export-latex-* variables are defined at this point?
That's because at that point org is not loaded, but only registered at
the autoloading facility. As soon as you invoke one of them (e.g. with
a keybinding) org is loaded, and then the missing variables will be
defined as well.
But a variable doesn't need to be defvared before setting them, so you
can simply add
(setq org-export-latex-foobar some nice setting)
to your emacs file although that variable isn't known at that time.
When org is loaded your values won't be overridden.
2.- Now, I want to use different packages, for example
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
I think the those should be added automatically, and the encoding is
determined by the org file's encoding.
\usepackage[english, francais]{babel}
I posted about this yesterday and I got the following reply from Thomas S.
Dye, thanks Thomas,
I didn't read that, but...
Perhaps the org-export-latex-classes variable is mis-configured. IIUC, the
[EXTRA] macro needs to be present:
... I don't think that variable is the right thing here.
Unfortunaetly this is not enough details for my little knowledge of
elisp! Could someone provide me with a clear example of what needs to
go in the .emacs file for packages with options and correspondingly
what needs to go in the org file for that example.
I think this should do what you want, e.g. enable babel with english and
francais options:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-export-latex-packages-alist
'((english, francais babel nil)))
--8---cut here---end---8---
Does the .emacs file needs to be modified every time one wants to add
a new package?
If you want a new package in every exported document, add an entry of
form (OPTIONS PACKAGE nil) to the list above.
Bye,
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Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to your mail. How does footnote.el find the signature? I assumed before that signatures are free-form and therefore unfindable algorithmically, but that seems to be a mistake on my part. If that's the case, the mechanism can be grafted into org-footnote.el, perhaps with an expanded meaning of org-footnote-placement: in addition to nil or a string, it can be a symbol, say 'before-signature, and that can be set in an appropriate mail composition hook. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
gerald.j...@dgag.ca writes: Hello, I am new to org-mode and I have a few issues with it. First, I am running org-mode version 5.23a from Emacs 22.3.1 on a Linux RedHat machine. Well, Gerald, this version is *really* ancient (I think nobody here is running it). Would you mind to upgrade, at least to the current stable version 7.01h? You can download the 7.01h here: http://orgmode.org/index.html#sec-2 and follow the instructions how to set up AND ACTIVATE it at: http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation and, please, do remember to activate Org-mode: http://orgmode.org/manual/Activation.html#Activation when I open a *.org file, org-mode is turned on OK. But none of the org-export-latex-* variables are defined at this point? Perhaps they were *not* defined in 5.23a version. Please, upgrade your org-mode. cheers, Giovanni ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: How does footnote.el find the signature? I presume by looking for the line -- which precedes the signature. Charles -- I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you. (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power) pgpcVsqDYgBgS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Tilde in URL not exported to latex
chris.m.mal...@gmail.com wrote:
I recently experienced this issue while adding a reference in a beamer
presentation using org-mode. It isn't elegant, but my workaround was to use \
sim instead of the tilde character, at least for what is actually displayed in
the document - you will still need to use tilde for the actual URL
link.
Thanks for this Chris. My workaround right now is to do the following
in .org buffer:
#+LaTeX: \url{http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/lp.html}
This handles the URLs just as I'd want to. (I do hate typing '#+LaTeX:'
though, but that's for me to deal with!)
I'm also using org here to make a beamer presentation, and in general it
works quite well. I do find myself wishing to resort to latex commands
a lot though ... but still I do like the feel of org for presentations.
Best wishes, Stephen
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[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Andreas There is a bug-report still an-responded. Been sent with mail at 14:42 Missing org-occur, no key displayed as expected. You are too demanding of Carsten :-). Try not to push him so much. It is possible that you somehow feel that your earlier patches privilege you to demand an extra attention. There is nothing wrong with feeling so at all. I have felt similarly earlier. I for one appreciate your earlier patches to the manual. I am happy that you are picking from where you left off and going full steam ahead. Keep up the good work. Tread softly though ... Jambunathan K. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: ordered lists after unordered
Hi Nicolas, Thanks for getting back to me. I think I've found a bug with the way org-meta-return behaves. I occasionally need to follow an unordered list by an ordered list, without any intervening text. For example: * Some heading - unordered - unordered - unordered 1) ordered I am using Org version 7.01trans. This behavior has been fixed in development version of Org mode. You may upgrade. Great! Pulling from git fixed this issue for me. By the way, please note that, by default, you now need to insert two blank lines to separate lists (that is unless you set `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' to t). Thanks for the tip! Best, Richard ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Subtle bug with capture and refile
Hi, list -- On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Christopher Witte wrote: The new org capture has been working great but I have just come across a subtle bug that has taken me a while to reliably reproduce. I have org set up to add TODO captures to the top of my organiser.org file. If you try and refile the capture TODO and the cursor is at the bottom of the capture buffer, it will refile the next item in organiser.org and not the capture TODO. Two points -- - First, thanks to Christopher for diagnosing this bug, which has been biting me, but only occasionally (and now I see why) - Second, to add the additional data point that if I'm trying to refile to the item following the point where the new captures are added, I get the error message Cannot refile to position inside the tree or region. Thanks -- -- John Rakestraw ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Latex export: Differing behavior for symbols in headlines
Dear Orgsters, I am seeing differing behavior for how special symbols that appear in a headline are exported to LaTeX, depending on whether I export an entire Org document or just the current subtree. I have, for example, a file that looks like this: * Headline 1 ** Headline 2, concerning $\alpha$ and $\beta$ If I export the whole document, the $'s around \alpha and \beta are properly interpreted as math-mode delimiters, and Headline 2 becomes a section title that looks exactly as I would expect. If I export just Headline 2, however, the $'s are escaped, and show up as literal '$' characters in the title of the exported document. (I can't remove the $'s, because I am actually using some custom LaTeX commands, not special symbols like \alpha and \beta that Org would recognize as needing to be put in math mode.) So, two questions: 1) Is this difference between whole-document vs. current-subtree export the expected behavior? 2) If so, what's the right way to work around it? If not, where should I look to try and fix it? (I am running the latest development version of Org.) Thanks! Best, Richard ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Latex export: Differing behavior for symbols in headlines
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu wrote:
Dear Orgsters,
I am seeing differing behavior for how special symbols that appear in a
headline are exported to LaTeX, depending on whether I export an entire
Org document or just the current subtree.
I have, for example, a file that looks like this:
* Headline 1
** Headline 2, concerning $\alpha$ and $\beta$
If I export the whole document, the $'s around \alpha and \beta are
properly interpreted as math-mode delimiters, and Headline 2 becomes a
section title that looks exactly as I would expect.
If I export just Headline 2, however, the $'s are escaped, and show up
as literal '$' characters in the title of the exported document.
(I can't remove the $'s, because I am actually using some custom LaTeX
commands, not special symbols like \alpha and \beta that Org would
recognize as needing to be put in math mode.)
So, two questions:
1) Is this difference between whole-document vs. current-subtree export
the expected behavior?
Looks like a bug to me. I can reproduce it too.
2) If so, what's the right way to work around it? If not, where should
I look to try and fix it?
I tried using \( and \) as the inline math delimiters but that did not
work either: I got $ signs *inserted* and then latex complains about that:
foo.org:
--8---cut here---start-8---
* Headline 1
** Headline 2, concerning \(\alpha\) and \(\beta\)
--8---cut here---end---8---
foo.tex (elided):
--8---cut here---start-8---
...
\title{Headline 2, concerning \($\alpha$\) and \($\beta$\)}
...
--8---cut here---end---8---
Nick
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[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Am 21.10.2010 17:33, schrieb Jambunathan K: Andreas There is a bug-report still an-responded. Been sent with mail at 14:42 Missing org-occur, no key displayed as expected. You are too demanding of Carsten :-). Try not to push him so much. It is possible that you somehow feel that your earlier patches privilege you to demand an extra attention. There is nothing wrong with feeling so at all. I have felt similarly earlier. Hi Jambunathan, sorry for that impression. It was not intended to have that meaning. Please take into account I'm not a native english-speaker. Was simply afraid, Carsten didn't see it, as it was placed behind a larger bulk of text, several mails have been exchanged since. I'll try to write more careful... Thanks reminding me in any case Andreas I for one appreciate your earlier patches to the manual. I am happy that you are picking from where you left off and going full steam ahead. Keep up the good work. Tread softly though ... Jambunathan K. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
Hello,
first thanks Tassilo for your reply, it did help somehow but there is still
things I don't understand, see below.
emacs-orgmode-bounces+gerald.jean=dgag...@gnu.org a écrit sur 2010/10/21
11:03:48 :
gerald.j...@dgag.ca writes:
Hi Gerald,
1.- Following advice in the org manual I added the following lines to
my
.emacs.
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org\\' . org-mode))
(global-set-key \C-cl 'org-store-link)
(global-set-key \C-ca 'org-agenda)
(global-set-key \C-cb 'org-iswitchb)
(setq org-log-done t)
when I open a *.org file, org-mode is turned on OK. But none of the
org-export-latex-* variables are defined at this point?
That's because at that point org is not loaded, but only registered at
the autoloading facility. As soon as you invoke one of them (e.g. with
a keybinding) org is loaded, and then the missing variables will be
defined as well.
But a variable doesn't need to be defvared before setting them, so you
can simply add
(setq org-export-latex-foobar some nice setting)
to your emacs file although that variable isn't known at that time.
When org is loaded your values won't be overridden.
2.- Now, I want to use different packages, for example
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
I think the those should be added automatically, and the encoding is
determined by the org file's encoding.
\usepackage[english, francais]{babel}
I posted about this yesterday and I got the following reply from Thomas
S.
Dye, thanks Thomas,
I didn't read that, but...
Perhaps the org-export-latex-classes variable is mis-configured. IIUC,
the
[EXTRA] macro needs to be present:
... I don't think that variable is the right thing here.
Unfortunaetly this is not enough details for my little knowledge of
elisp! Could someone provide me with a clear example of what needs to
go in the .emacs file for packages with options and correspondingly
what needs to go in the org file for that example.
I think this should do what you want, e.g. enable babel with english and
francais options:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-export-latex-packages-alist
'((english, francais babel nil)))
--8---cut here---end---8---
Does the .emacs file needs to be modified every time one wants to add
a new package?
If you want a new package in every exported document, add an entry of
form (OPTIONS PACKAGE nil) to the list above.
That works, thanks, but when do you use #+LATEX_HEADER: then? I thought
that if I wanted a package just for this one org file that it was the way
to specify it, sure doesn't work for me?
I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org file.
They talk about the org-export-select-tags and org-export-exclude-tags;
these variables don't even exist? They never explain how to create them
and how to set them? They never explain neither how and where to set the
tags once the variables are set?
Any light here? Thanks again,
Gérald
Bye,
Tassilo
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There is an ftp-server available for Android phones that should let you do similar things, if you didn't root your phone. My phone is *so* rooted. Like the first thing I did after unboxing. The Verizon crapware was so annoying! I've got my Android rooted and have a ssh server running there. I have a terminal emulator (I think it was installed with BusyBox). Did your terminal come with an ssh server, or did you hack it in? Any pointers or walkthroughs would be appreciated. -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Weird behaviour with org-yank and org-startup-indented
On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Chong Yidong wrote: Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info writes: In a Org buffer with org-startup-indented set to t, type: ** TODO abcdefgh Go on `c', activate mark press C-e, press M-w (kill-ring-save). [Wrong primary selection appears] The problem is in org-indent-refresh-section, which is run from a timer. This function first moves point and then calls remove-text-properties, which is considered a buffer change. Since the mark is active, the selection code saves the region to saved-region-selection, from which it is later saved to the primary selection. Ah, this is interesting, thank you very much! There are a few possible fixes, but I am yet not sure which is best. One is to avoid setting saved-region-selection inside a timer. Another is for save-excursion to inhibit writing to saved-region-selection; a third is not to treat remove-text-properties as a trigger for saving the primary selection. I'll go with Stefan's solution, using with-silent-modifications. I had already code that would restore buffer-modified-flag, but apparently this was not enough. Thanks! - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
Aloha Gerald,
I don't know if you saw the earlier message. Your org-mode is out of
date. You should update according to the instructions in that message.
Also, have you seen Worg? http://orgmode.org/worg
Once you've upgraded to a recent version of org-mode, then the LaTeX
export tutorial there might help get you over the steep part of the
learning curve:
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php
hth,
Tom
On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:56 AM, gerald.j...@dgag.ca wrote:
Hello,
first thanks Tassilo for your reply, it did help somehow but there
is still
things I don't understand, see below.
emacs-orgmode-bounces+gerald.jean=dgag...@gnu.org a écrit sur
2010/10/21
11:03:48 :
gerald.j...@dgag.ca writes:
Hi Gerald,
1.- Following advice in the org manual I added the following lines
to
my
.emacs.
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org\\' . org-mode))
(global-set-key \C-cl 'org-store-link)
(global-set-key \C-ca 'org-agenda)
(global-set-key \C-cb 'org-iswitchb)
(setq org-log-done t)
when I open a *.org file, org-mode is turned on OK. But none of the
org-export-latex-* variables are defined at this point?
That's because at that point org is not loaded, but only registered
at
the autoloading facility. As soon as you invoke one of them (e.g.
with
a keybinding) org is loaded, and then the missing variables will be
defined as well.
But a variable doesn't need to be defvared before setting them, so
you
can simply add
(setq org-export-latex-foobar some nice setting)
to your emacs file although that variable isn't known at that time.
When org is loaded your values won't be overridden.
2.- Now, I want to use different packages, for example
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
I think the those should be added automatically, and the encoding is
determined by the org file's encoding.
\usepackage[english, francais]{babel}
I posted about this yesterday and I got the following reply from
Thomas
S.
Dye, thanks Thomas,
I didn't read that, but...
Perhaps the org-export-latex-classes variable is mis-configured.
IIUC,
the
[EXTRA] macro needs to be present:
... I don't think that variable is the right thing here.
Unfortunaetly this is not enough details for my little knowledge of
elisp! Could someone provide me with a clear example of what
needs to
go in the .emacs file for packages with options and correspondingly
what needs to go in the org file for that example.
I think this should do what you want, e.g. enable babel with
english and
francais options:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-export-latex-packages-alist
'((english, francais babel nil)))
--8---cut here---end---8---
Does the .emacs file needs to be modified every time one wants to
add
a new package?
If you want a new package in every exported document, add an entry of
form (OPTIONS PACKAGE nil) to the list above.
That works, thanks, but when do you use #+LATEX_HEADER: then? I
thought
that if I wanted a package just for this one org file that it was
the way
to specify it, sure doesn't work for me?
I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org
file.
They talk about the org-export-select-tags and org-export-exclude-
tags;
these variables don't even exist? They never explain how to create
them
and how to set them? They never explain neither how and where to
set the
tags once the variables are set?
Any light here? Thanks again,
Gérald
Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: My guessing is that a naive user (like me ...) does expect any defined priority (like #D in this case) to have a higher priority than a non priority item. I see how that makes sense. However, the other use case is this: Use #A to make something higher priority. Use #C to make it lower than any normal stuff. All the rest mingles in #B. So your proposal makes the assumption that any priority means more than no priority. The default aBc settings were easily understandable to me and I use A to mark things high and C low and leave most things in the middle. So maybe all that's needed is a You might expect tasks with an explicit priority to all be considered higher priority than tasks without an explicit priority, but in fact unlabeled tasks inherit the default priority. Or maybe that's redundant. I just re-read the manual section. As far as I can see, all necessary information is there. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
gerald.j...@dgag.ca writes:
Hi Gerald,
I think this should do what you want, e.g. enable babel with english
and francais options:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-export-latex-packages-alist
'((english, francais babel nil)))
--8---cut here---end---8---
Does the .emacs file needs to be modified every time one wants to add
a new package?
If you want a new package in every exported document, add an entry of
form (OPTIONS PACKAGE nil) to the list above.
That works, thanks, but when do you use #+LATEX_HEADER: then?
I don't use the LaTeX export at all (at least regularily). :-)
I thought that if I wanted a package just for this one org file that
it was the way to specify it, sure doesn't work for me?
Yes, the docs say so. I had the impression that you want to enable
babel for each exported org file, so I chose the version above. But you
can also use
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[english, francais]{babel}
in your org file, which should have the same effect.
I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org
file. They talk about the org-export-select-tags and
org-export-exclude-tags; these variables don't even exist?
They do. Are you still using that old org version 5.x? If so, well,
then maybe there were no such variables. And somewhen in org version
6.x the export facilities were completely rewritten, so I guess you are
pretty alone with your problems unless you get a recent version.
Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: [Orgmode] numbered outlines?
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 AM, David Rogoff wrote: Thanks - that might do the job. Native would be best, of course. This could be implemented as a little module. One could just run through the outline and put overlays on the stars showing the numbers. Looking for a fun little project, anyone? :-) - Carsten Jeff Horn wrote: I don't know if it is an ideal solution, but you can export to ASCII using `C-c C-e a` which will dump an ascii text file with the name filename.txt into the same directory as filename.org. Outlines will have numbers in the text file. HTH, Jeff On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:40 PM, David Rogoff da...@cox.net wrote: Sorry if this is obvious, but I couldn't find anything on it. orgmode's use of asterisks for outline levels is fine when I'm working on something by myself. However, if I'm collaborating with other people, there's no good way to reference a particular outline entry. Is there a way to get org-mode to use numbering (e.g. 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 ) for outline levels? If not, how can you work with other people on an outline? Thanks, David ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Weird behaviour with org-yank and org-startup-indented
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: The problem is in org-indent-refresh-section, which is run from a timer. This function first moves point and then calls remove-text-properties, which is considered a buffer change. Since the mark is active, the selection code saves the region to saved-region-selection, from which it is later saved to the primary selection. Shouldn't org-indent-refresh-section use with-silent-modifications around the remove-text-properties call? If we were starting from scratch, I think it's more sensible to make text property changes silent by default, while providing an explicit call to unsilence them when desired (which seem to be a minority of cases). I guess it's too late to change now, though. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: mobileorg app can't sync
Greg Troxel gdt at ir.bbn.com writes: Rodney Price rodprice at raytheon.com writes: I've been trying to get MobileOrg set up with Dropbox, and I seem to have done something to make it impossible for MobileOrg to sync. Whenever I try, I get an error message like, Unexpected error: error getting mobileorg.org (paraphrased somewhat) It was syncing fine at one point, but then I decided to move my ~/org directory into the Dropbox directory, and MobileOrg evidently didn't like the change. How do I get the MobileOrg app (on an iPod Touch) to start up again? I have same same error. The steps I took are as follows; - Downloaded MobilOrg app for iPhone. - Created an account on Dropbox. - Linked Mobilorg to Dropbox account. - Created test entry in Mobilorg. - Attempted to sync. Error returned Error syncing changes. An error was encountered while attempting to fetch mobileorg.org from the server. The error was: Unexpected error On my Dropbox account, I see: MobileOrg\.dropbox -Luke I have not used dropbox, but the directory with your org files and the place in webdav that is your MobileOrg staging area are conceptually separate. You still have to org-mobile-push even if org-directory is someplace in dav space. To let someone debug this, you'll have to post your entire relevant config, including setting of org-mobile-directory, org-directory, and the URL you put in MobileOrg. (I have mobileorg syncing fine, from two instances (production and beta builds), one where I have a separate DAV dir accessed via the local filesystem, and one which is accessed on a remote server via tramp/ssh) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode at gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Subtle bug with capture and refile
Hi Christopher, thank you for taking the time to isolate this bug. Could you please try the following patch? Thanks. - Carsten Modified lisp/org-capture.el diff --git a/lisp/org-capture.el b/lisp/org-capture.el index 7915f7f..537f1a4 100644 --- a/lisp/org-capture.el +++ b/lisp/org-capture.el @@ -548,6 +548,7 @@ already gone. (unless (eq (org-capture-get :type 'local) 'entry) (error Refiling from a capture buffer makes only sense for `entry'- type templates)) + (if (and (bolp) (eobp)) (backward-char 1)) (let ((pos (point)) (base (buffer-base-buffer (current-buffer))) (org-refile-for-capture t)) On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Christopher Witte wrote: The new org capture has been working great but I have just come across a subtle bug that has taken me a while to reliably reproduce. I have org set up to add TODO captures to the top of my organiser.org file. If you try and refile the capture TODO and the cursor is at the bottom of the capture buffer, it will refile the next item in organiser.org and not the capture TODO. Hmm, that doesn't sound too clear, let me try and give an example. My organiser.org looks like this: -organiser.org- * Home ** Home item 1 ** Home item 2 * Work ** Work item 1 I then make a capture TODO -capture buffer- * TODO report capture buffer bug ! with the cursor indicated by ! I press C-c C-w and refile to work. Instead of the capture note being refiled, Home get refiled so I end up with organiser.org looking like: -organiser.org- *TODO report capture buffer bug * Work ** Home *** Home item 1 *** Home item 2 ** Work item 1 if instead the cursor is on the TODO line when I refile, everything works as expect and I end up with: -organiser.org- * Home ** Home item 1 ** Home item 2 * Work ** TODO report capture buffer bug ** Work item 1 This has been causing me problems for a while now, but I could never work out why this only happened some of the time. I hope that explains the problem with sufficient clarity, let me know if it doesn't. Cheers Chris Witte. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] numbered outlines?
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 AM, David Rogoff wrote: Thanks - that might do the job. Native would be best, of course. This could be implemented as a little module. One could just run through the outline and put overlays on the stars showing the numbers. Looking for a fun little project, anyone? :-) - Carsten Jeff Horn wrote: I don't know if it is an ideal solution, but you can export to ASCII using `C-c C-e a` which will dump an ascii text file with the name filename.txt into the same directory as filename.org. Outlines will have numbers in the text file. HTH, Jeff On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:40 PM, David Rogoff da...@cox.net wrote: Sorry if this is obvious, but I couldn't find anything on it. orgmode's use of asterisks for outline levels is fine when I'm working on something by myself. However, if I'm collaborating with other people, there's no good way to reference a particular outline entry. Is there a way to get org-mode to use numbering (e.g. 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 ) for outline levels? If not, how can you work with other people on an outline? Thanks, David ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Another possible error for in-line math parsing
Org-mode will never be a perfect TeX scanner, and this is really hard. Help yourself and Org by using \( and \) as math delimiters when you wish to include dollar characters inside Ten-four. I'll try it when I get some time to go back and edit my source files. Wonky use of dollar signs in math doesn't explain why the following source doesn't work, though: Additionally, the following source from org-mode: `$.30(50)+.70(20)=29$` Is not converted at all by MathJax. Org-mode version 7.01trans, recent git pull from earlier this week. Aquamacs on Snow Leopard. Thanks for the tip, though! -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] link export confused when URL parameter is another URL
On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:35 AM, David Maus wrote: At Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:00 -0500, Cook, Malcolm wrote: If find that this orgtext [[http://www.foo.com/foo?URL=http://www.bar.com][test]] exports to html incorrectly as [[http://www.foo.com/foo?URL=[[http://www.bar.com][test][http://www.bar.com ][test]]] using today's fresh git pull make install Any pointers? The problem here is that Org's (legacy) support for plain links (i.e. without square brackets) kicks in and transforms the fragment part to a normal square bracket link. My regexp-foo is not as it should be, but I am on this one to fix it; What we need to express in `org-export-normalize-link' is, that a plain link is something that looks like a hyperlink but not preceded directly by a square or angle bracket and not after a question mark followed by zero or more no-whitespace-characters. This is a bit hard without lookbehind assertions as they are available in perl. For something like this it is somtimes easier to just to the normal match you wanted to use anyway and then confirm by taking a separate look at the text before the match which is, for example, (buffer-substring (point-at-bol) (match-beginning 0)) HTH - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
Once received on the phone I save it (which goes to the root of the SDCard). Next I use Astro to unzip the files to the directory I've configured MobileOrg for. That is a great idea. I'll try that and see how it works, but I think I'd like syncing in the long run. I could do something similar by dropping the zip file in Dropbox and unzipping on the phone. -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
Thanks again Tassilo,
here is what I tried.
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org a écrit sur 2010/10/21 13:42:59 :
gerald.j...@dgag.ca writes:
Hi Gerald,
I think this should do what you want, e.g. enable babel with english
and francais options:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-export-latex-packages-alist
'((english, francais babel nil)))
--8---cut here---end---8---
Does the .emacs file needs to be modified every time one wants to
add
a new package?
If you want a new package in every exported document, add an entry of
form (OPTIONS PACKAGE nil) to the list above.
That works, thanks, but when do you use #+LATEX_HEADER: then?
I don't use the LaTeX export at all (at least regularily). :-)
I thought that if I wanted a package just for this one org file that
it was the way to specify it, sure doesn't work for me?
Yes, the docs say so. I had the impression that you want to enable
babel for each exported org file, so I chose the version above. But you
can also use
You were right for the babel package, I use it all the time. But some
other packages not so often
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[english, francais]{babel}
in your org file, which should have the same effect.
I tried this:
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{longtable}
No effects?
I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org
file. They talk about the org-export-select-tags and
org-export-exclude-tags; these variables don't even exist?
They do. Are you still using that old org version 5.x? If so, well,
then maybe there were no such variables. And somewhen in org version
6.x the export facilities were completely rewritten, so I guess you are
pretty alone with your problems unless you get a recent version.
For the time being I am stuck with this version. I am sending a request to
our IT group to upgrade Emacs to the most recent version for the version of
RedHat we have, this should have a more recent version of org-mode, if I am
lucky that should be done in a couple weeks. In the mean time I will
manually add, or exclude, what I want from the exported *.tex file.
For the little I have done with org mode I still think it looks like a
great package and I am planning to learn to use it better so I use it more.
Thanks to all contributors.
Cheers,
Gérald
Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: mobileorg app can't sync
I have same same error. The steps I took are as follows; - Downloaded MobilOrg app for iPhone. - Created an account on Dropbox. - Linked Mobilorg to Dropbox account. - Created test entry in Mobilorg. - Attempted to sync. Error returned Error syncing changes. An error was encountered while attempting to fetch mobileorg.org from the server. The error was: Unexpected error On my Dropbox account, I see: MobileOrg\.dropbox But you need to run org-mobile-push from Emacs, and set any variables it relies on. I forget which, but they are in the manual. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] numbered outlines?
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 AM, David Rogoff wrote: Thanks - that might do the job. Native would be best, of course. This could be implemented as a little module. One could just run through the outline and put overlays on the stars showing the numbers. Looking for a fun little project, anyone? :-) I'd do it, but I'm a hardware guy and my elisp expertise is really minimal! - Carsten Jeff Horn wrote: I don't know if it is an ideal solution, but you can export to ASCII using `C-c C-e a` which will dump an ascii text file with the name filename.txt into the same directory as filename.org. Outlines will have numbers in the text file. HTH, Jeff On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:40 PM, David Rogoff da...@cox.net wrote: Sorry if this is obvious, but I couldn't find anything on it. orgmode's use of asterisks for outline levels is fine when I'm working on something by myself. However, if I'm collaborating with other people, there's no good way to reference a particular outline entry. Is there a way to get org-mode to use numbering (e.g. 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 ) for outline levels? If not, how can you work with other people on an outline? Thanks, David ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D
Perhaps it would help to eliminate the default priority for cycling, because it is confusing to have both the default priority and blank meaning the same thing. For example, a B c would become a blank c when cycling. Samuel ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
For the time being I am stuck with this version. I am sending a request to our IT group to upgrade Emacs to the most recent version for the version of RedHat we have, this should have a more recent version of org-mode, if I am lucky that should be done in a couple weeks. In the mean time I will manually add, or exclude, what I want from the exported *.tex file. Do you have write access to your home directory? That's all you need to install the latest and greatest. Although I do not know how org 7 works with your version of Emacs. Probably smart to have them upgrade since there are tons of improvements in Emacs, and it's, you know, free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu a écrit sur 2010/10/21 14:26:51 : For the time being I am stuck with this version. I am sending a request to our IT group to upgrade Emacs to the most recent version for the version of RedHat we have, this should have a more recent version of org-mode, if I am lucky that should be done in a couple weeks. In the mean time I will manually add, or exclude, what I want from the exported *.tex file. Do you have write access to your home directory? That's all you need to install the latest and greatest. Although I do not know how org 7 works with your version of Emacs. Probably smart to have them upgrade since there are tons of improvements in Emacs, and it's, you know, free. Yes I do have write access to my home. I do manage ESS versions, AucTeX versions and a full TeXLive distribution that way. But I do find this is enough, I am not very efficient at system maintenance and do have other work to do. Hence I'll wait a little and let the experts do a system wide installation. Gérald ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Subtle bug with capture and refile
Hi, Carsten -- On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Christopher, thank you for taking the time to isolate this bug. Could you please try the following patch? Your patch seems to fix the problem. Thanks -- John Thanks. - Carsten Modified lisp/org-capture.el diff --git a/lisp/org-capture.el b/lisp/org-capture.el index 7915f7f..537f1a4 100644 --- a/lisp/org-capture.el +++ b/lisp/org-capture.el @@ -548,6 +548,7 @@ already gone. (unless (eq (org-capture-get :type 'local) 'entry) (error Refiling from a capture buffer makes only sense for `entry'- type templates)) + (if (and (bolp) (eobp)) (backward-char 1)) (let ((pos (point)) (base (buffer-base-buffer (current-buffer))) (org-refile-for-capture t)) -- John Rakestraw ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Was ...questions about...email - orgmode + email + company firewall
Hi, I followed the conversation about email writing with org-mode and *loved* it. I would absolutely like to live in emacs for email as it offers so many neat tricks. My problem has to do with how to set up pop/imap access while at work. I can use the web interface just fine, but I've never succeeded in using a client trying to access via pop/imap (like Thunderbird) and have simply figured it was due to firewall. Recently, I was finally able to get Thunderbird working since their webmail extension [1] added gmail support. I just succeeded with pop (I'd prefer imap, though, but apparently it's not possible). My question is whether gnus or some other text-based email program that emacs can use has some method of doing whatever this webmail extention is doing. I think it's somehow going through port 80 and getting messages that way, but I could be mistaken. In the past, I've tried telnet imap.gmail.com993 and telnet pop.gmail.com 995 and never been able to connect. Anyway, I'm not actually sure where to ask this as it's somewhat of a network question... perhaps I should post to Arch Linux forums, though on the other hand perhaps avid email users here will have been through something like this? Thanks for any suggestions, John [1] http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: mobileorg app can't sync
Luke Crook wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu mailto:er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote: I have same same error. The steps I took are as follows; - Downloaded MobilOrg app for iPhone. - Created an account on Dropbox. - Linked Mobilorg to Dropbox account. - Created test entry in Mobilorg. - Attempted to sync. Error returned Error syncing changes. An error was encountered while attempting to fetch mobileorg.org http://mobileorg.org from the server. The error was: Unexpected error On my Dropbox account, I see: MobileOrg\.dropbox But you need to run org-mobile-push from Emacs, and set any variables it relies on. I forget which, but they are in the manual. Ah, so I have to have an existing org-mobile-push'ified .org file in Dropbox prior to syncing? I don't think this is really made clear in the instructions. I didn't know that there was an org-mobile-push dependency between Emacs and Mobileorg. I had the impression that Mobilorg could be used stand-alone. No, I don't think so. That's why the instructions talk about the 'staging area'. So my system is: I have my 'real' orgmode files in Dropbox, but not in my MobileOrg directory. I then have a command in Emacs that when I press C-c g, my .org files are committed to git, and org-mobile-push is called to copy them to the dropbox/MobileOrg directory. I then can sync from the ipod and have them there. I can make changes on the device, marking items as done and taking notes. When I come back to my desk, I use a command bound to C-c p to call org-mobile-pull. I also have auto-revert-mode enabled for org files, so all changes simply appear on screen in my org files. I'll try this and report back. -Luke ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: mobileorg app can't sync
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote: I have same same error. The steps I took are as follows; - Downloaded MobilOrg app for iPhone. - Created an account on Dropbox. - Linked Mobilorg to Dropbox account. - Created test entry in Mobilorg. - Attempted to sync. Error returned Error syncing changes. An error was encountered while attempting to fetch mobileorg.org from the server. The error was: Unexpected error On my Dropbox account, I see: MobileOrg\.dropbox But you need to run org-mobile-push from Emacs, and set any variables it relies on. I forget which, but they are in the manual. Ah, so I have to have an existing org-mobile-push'ified .org file in Dropbox prior to syncing? I don't think this is really made clear in the instructions. I didn't know that there was an org-mobile-push dependency between Emacs and Mobileorg. I had the impression that Mobilorg could be used stand-alone. I'll try this and report back. -Luke ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: What WebDAV service do you use for syncing org files?
Hi Jeff, There is an ftp-server available for Android phones that should let you do similar things, if you didn't root your phone. My phone is *so* rooted. Like the first thing I did after unboxing. The Verizon crapware was so annoying! I've got my Android rooted and have a ssh server running there. I have a terminal emulator (I think it was installed with BusyBox). Did your terminal come with an ssh server, or did you hack it in? Any pointers or walkthroughs would be appreciated. I have a HTC Magic, and use the Cyanogenmod ROM. There the ssh daemon dropbear is included. It is just a matter to set it up. A google search on $YOUR_PHONE android dropbear should tell you, if this sshd daemon is running you your device as well. Holger ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] MobileOrg : Reminders
Hi, Does MobileOrg support reminders, like a buzz from the phone 10 (or a customizable number of) minutes before any appointment from the agenda? I haven't used MobileOrg much yet on my Iphone, but think I would use such a feature. More experienced users are free to argue why this wouldn't be useful. I would like it to be optionable in the form of a switch, so that can either be switched on or off. Magnus ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt; user info?
Dear subscribers, I haven't found much information about org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt. Will these topics be expanded in the org-manual? I would be delighted if anyone could teach me (informatively) how to succeed with the following two tasks: 1. Encrypt a password-table I keep in an org-file when saved to disk, while text would be plain in the buffer. (Best if it can be transparent without passwords, but that is not a must.) 2. Encrypt files on the Dropbox server, in a transparent way, so that I do not need to use passwords to sync between org and Iphone (which I let Emacs do automatically once each day). Thanks in advance, Magnus ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
gerald.j...@dgag.ca wrote:
I tried this:
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{longtable}
No effects?
AFAIK, the quotes are not necessary, but the reason it's not
working is indeed that your version of org-mode doesn't know about
LATEX_HEADER at all.
It was implemented with this commit:
commit 20364d043a51c3c71493369c58a43b49566dbdaa
Author: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu Oct 2 15:00:14 2008 +0200
Implement #+LATEX_HEADER special.
Proposed by Austin Frank and apparently also by Russel Adams.
which I believe appeared in
release_6.08
Note that the commit is two years old.
I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org
file. They talk about the org-export-select-tags and
org-export-exclude-tags; these variables don't even exist?
They do. Are you still using that old org version 5.x? If so, well,
then maybe there were no such variables. And somewhen in org version
6.x the export facilities were completely rewritten, so I guess you are
pretty alone with your problems unless you get a recent version.
For the time being I am stuck with this version. I am sending a request to
our IT group to upgrade Emacs to the most recent version for the version of
RedHat we have, this should have a more recent version of org-mode, if I am
lucky that should be done in a couple weeks. In the mean time I will
manually add, or exclude, what I want from the exported *.tex file.
A couple of weeks?!? And you are not even sure which version of emacs
and org-mode you are going to get? I'd say, build your own: get
emacs/orgmode from the git mirror and build it yourself, install it in
your home directory if necessary. Even if it takes you a week or two to
get it done, at the end of it you'll be much better off at the end of
it.
If you have a community of users, this might be more difficult, but maybe
you can exercise concerted pressure on your IT dept: they might be more
willing to listen to ten people than to one.
If you are reasonably comfortable with git and make, it should only take
an hour or so to update/build/install; and assuming you stay with
released versions, you will only have to do that every couple of
months.
In addition, depending on what emacs version you have, you might be able
to run recent org-mode even if your emas is old (certainly on emacs 23,
probably on emacs 22, and just maybe on emacs 21, although I'm not sure
about these). That might be enough for your purposes and it reduces
time requirements to just a few minutes every month or two.
FWIW, the only use I have of whatever emacs gets installed with a system
is to bootstrap the latest emacs/orgmode: after that, it's deleted (or
at least, never used again).
Nick
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[Orgmode] Re: org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt; user info?
Magnus Nilsson magnus.nilsson at alumni.chalmers.se writes: I would be delighted if anyone could teach me (informatively) how to succeed with the following two tasks: 1. Encrypt a password-table I keep in an org-file when saved to disk, while text would be plain in the buffer. (Best if it can be transparent without passwords, but that is not a must.) I don't have experience with org-mobile, but the following blog posting answers your first question: http://emacs.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/keeping-your-secrets-secret/ Note that you don't have to use org-crypt if the entire buffer is to be encrypted. Org-crypt is only necessary if you want to mix and match encrypted and non-encrypted org-mode items in the same file, for example if you want some items to show up in the agenda. Also, on Windows and Mac machines, you have to install GNUPG first. It's a separate download from the mainstream emacs distributions on both platforms. -- Chris ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:28:20 +0200, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: Charles Philip Chan cpc...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi Charles and Nick, How does footnote.el find the signature? I presume by looking for the line -- which precedes the signature. That's not completely true. The line has to be -- , i.e. -- followed by exactly one space. Bye, Tassilo indeed. looking at the code in footnode.el, there is a search for the message-signature-separator, which defaults to ^-- $ to find where to insert footnotes. -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt; user info?
I'm new to org-crypt, but I was able to make it work last week. First, I created a PGP key using seahorse (not required, but make thinks easier). Then I put the code below in my .emacs file --8---cut here---start-8--- (require 'org-crypt) (org-crypt-use-before-save-magic) ; Encrypts everything with the crypt tag ; when the buffer is saved (setq org-tags-exclude-from-inheritance (quote (crypt))) (setq org-crypt-key ) --8---cut here---end---8--- where the is the ID of my PGP key in seahorse. With this all headings with the tag crypt will be encrypted when the file is saved. If I want to see the content I run the command org-decrypt-entry (or org-decrypt-entries to decrypt all headings in the file). When I save the file again everything will be encrypted. I'm only asked for the password of my PGP key when I want to decrypt a heading. If you do don't want to create a PGP key then I think you will need to set a property in the heading with the crypt key and org will ask you for a password to encrypt the heading. -- Darlan At Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:43:10 +0200, Magnus Nilsson magnus.nils...@alumni.chalmers.se wrote: [1 multipart/alternative (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)] Dear subscribers, I haven't found much information about org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt. Will these topics be expanded in the org-manual? I would be delighted if anyone could teach me (informatively) how to succeed with the following two tasks: 1. Encrypt a password-table I keep in an org-file when saved to disk, while text would be plain in the buffer. (Best if it can be transparent without passwords, but that is not a must.) 2. Encrypt files on the Dropbox server, in a transparent way, so that I do not need to use passwords to sync between org and Iphone (which I let Emacs do automatically once each day). Thanks in advance, Magnus [1.2 text/html; ISO-8859-1 (quoted-printable)] [2 text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)] ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt; user info?
2. Encrypt files on the Dropbox server, in a transparent way, so that I do not need to use passwords to sync between org and Iphone (which I let Emacs do automatically once each day). This is what MobileOrg's encryption is for. You set a password in your .emacs and then the same one on MobileOrg and the files in dropbox/webdav are encrypted, and there is no hassle. Note that MobileOrg only has encrypttion support in the beta 1.5, not the released 1.4 - I have a beta and am using it/testing it. pgpWvJW4CXAJV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-crypt and org-mobile-crypt; user info?
Magnus Nilsson magnus.nils...@alumni.chalmers.se writes: 1. Encrypt a password-table I keep in an org-file when saved to disk, while text would be plain in the buffer. (Best if it can be transparent without passwords, but that is not a must.) With Emacs the best way IMHO to do it is use GnuPG/epg directly. You do it by simply naming a new file with an additional .gpg extension after the real one (.org in our case). So simply C-x C-f password-table.org.gpg RET and choose yourself as the recipient of the ciphertext There are two main advantage of this solution 1. you can access the table without running emacs (with an ssh client on your mobile?) by simply runnig gpg password-table.org on the command line. 2. Emacs runs gnupg completely seamlessly (if you run gpg-agent which caches the passphrases) -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Another possible error for in-line math parsing
On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Jeff Horn wrote: Org-mode will never be a perfect TeX scanner, and this is really hard. Help yourself and Org by using \( and \) as math delimiters when you wish to include dollar characters inside Ten-four. What does that mean? I'll try it when I get some time to go back and edit my source files. Wonky use of dollar signs in math doesn't explain why the following source doesn't work, though: Additionally, the following source from org-mode: `$.30(50)+.70(20)=29$` The reason here is that $.30 looks too much like currency, and Org tries hard to detect cases where is dollar in text is meant to be currency and not math. Here it fails, and also here you can use \(...\). In fact, using dollar makes parsing TeX *a lot* harder in general. HTH - Carsten Is not converted at all by MathJax. Org-mode version 7.01trans, recent git pull from earlier this week. Aquamacs on Snow Leopard. Thanks for the tip, though! -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Subtle bug with capture and refile
Thanks for doing the testing. - Carsten On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:29 PM, John Rakestraw wrote: Hi, Carsten -- On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Christopher, thank you for taking the time to isolate this bug. Could you please try the following patch? Your patch seems to fix the problem. Thanks -- John Thanks. - Carsten Modified lisp/org-capture.el diff --git a/lisp/org-capture.el b/lisp/org-capture.el index 7915f7f..537f1a4 100644 --- a/lisp/org-capture.el +++ b/lisp/org-capture.el @@ -548,6 +548,7 @@ already gone. (unless (eq (org-capture-get :type 'local) 'entry) (error Refiling from a capture buffer makes only sense for `entry'- type templates)) + (if (and (bolp) (eobp)) (backward-char 1)) (let ((pos (point)) (base (buffer-base-buffer (current-buffer))) (org-refile-for-capture t)) -- John Rakestraw ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
[ ... ]
C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on
that
key.
Many do.
Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style
category.
Is it wise to do it that way?
For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys.
Are reasons for this?
Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number
of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just
`C-c
/' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For
interactive use, I think this is just perfect.
Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you
want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I
like to have them in the manual, for look up.
Hi,
I'm following, thanks for the explanation.
Remains a describe-mode bug than (?)
Sincerely undecided here, just a question.
To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in
the
manual,and I will take a look at those later.
Remains something to do anyway IMHO.
First a creating command is mentioned, after it says showing.
@orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating
command.
;;;
@kindex C-c / r
@item C-c / r
@vindex org-remove-highlights-with-change
Occur. Prompts for a regexp and shows a sparse tree with all
matches. If
In this end, this should simply be
@orgcmd{C-c / r, org-occur}
May you update the doku?
BTW if the first key branches to other key, would help folks like me
to know... Maybe saying: Is a generic key invoking...
Because the dispatcher command will call this command after r has
been
pressed.
But as I said, I can do these indirect calls pretty easily, I know
most
of them by heart.
Thanks. Should get it from var last-command already.
- Carsten
Still an issue:
No brand of Emacs org-mode knows org-occur here
M-x where-is org-occur
==
org-occur is not on any key
Also when C-c / is pressed, there is no `r'-key displayed,
see screenshot.
As I have been trying to explain during this thread, Emacs does
not know that org-occur is can be reached through `C-c / r'.
So where-is cannot give you a reply.
This is not a bug, it is in the nature of the dispatcher
commands Org-mode uses.
- Carsten
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[Orgmode] RFI -- Which completion system?
Hello, Before spending a lot of time trying to choose for the best completion mechanism inside Emacs (and sticking to it), setting it up all the way through, I wanted to know if you had had: - particularly good or bad experiences with one of the standard ones? - things to notice regarding the integration with Org? From the many that do exist -- and which conflict in my =.emacs= file! --, I've spotted the following ones of being of real interest: - dabbrev - hippie-expand - pabbrev - company Any comment on this? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
