Re: On-line Pay stubs
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Well, my last employer did that - but they also told me I didn't work there anymore so I think it might be a moot point Gary - Original Message - From: Aschenberg, Mat mailto:matt.aschenb...@echostar.com To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: On-line Pay stubs I just received notice both from my National Guard commander and now from my full-time employment that I won' be receiving paystubs anymore. I have to go on-line and look them up. I feel very uncomfortable with this. Is it really legal to not give a paystub? Mat Emoticon1.gif
Re: Australia and Radio Lans
Hi Richard, for this device, labeling is voluntary. If you wish to label the item, you must 1st seek permission from the ACA (a relatively painless process), which is used more for marketing reasons. Best Regards, Martin. Martin Garwood. Approval Specialists Pty. Ltd. - Sydney +61 (0)2 4384 1433 (Main) +61 (0)2 4385 3382 (Fax) +61 (0)411 144911 (Mobile) Approval Specialists Inc. - Los Angeles +1 323 571-0971 (Main) +1 323 372-3734 (Fax) +1 323 578-5588 (Mobile) mgarw...@approvalspecialists.com www.approvalspecialists.com - Original Message - From: richwo...@tycoint.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 6:37 AM Subject: Australia and Radio Lans We have an ITE product that includes a 2.45 GHz spread spectrum, low power, radio LAN card. For Australia, I understand that compliance with the following is necessary and sufficient: * Compliance with the technical requirements of ACA Radiocommunications Class Licence (Spread Spectrum Devices). * Compliance with the technical requirements of ACA Radiocommunications (Electromagnetic Radiation - Human Exposure) Standard 2001. * Compliance with the technical requirements of the EMC regulations including C-tick marking and the Declaration of Conformity. I understand there are no other licensing, marking or declaration requirements. Is this correct? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
On-line Pay stubs
I just received notice both from my National Guard commander and now from my full-time employment that I won' be receiving paystubs anymore. I have to go on-line and look them up. I feel very uncomfortable with this. Is it really legal to not give a paystub? Mat
RE: CB, SMT, TMP
Brian, I understand the predicament now. When I talked to the NCB's in my area they all referenced ISO/IEC 17025, so I didn't get stuck with this problem. Josh From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:boconn...@t-yuden.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:11 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CB, SMT, TMP Joshua Yes, I know that 25 has been replaced by 17025, but the wonderful people that wrote IECEE 02:2001 did not refer to IEC 17025:1999. And I thought the purpose of standards was to provide for a uniform application of requirements. But I do tend to be a bit naive and foolish in my expectations... And in any case, when a voice in the wilderness asks what is the basis for x ? the real questions being asked typically are what is the rationale for these requirements? and how can I encourage the various agencies/NCBs to have more uniform requirements ?. luck, Brian From: Joshua Wiseman [mailto:jwise...@printronix.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:56 AM To: Brian O'Connell; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CB, SMT, TMP Brian, As I understand it ISO/IEC 17025 replaced ISO/IEC Guide 25. The answers to your other questions will depend on who you are using for your NCB. Regards, Josh From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:boconn...@t-yuden.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:30 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CB, SMT, TMP Good People IECEE 02, cl C1.2 requires lab conformity to ...clauses 7 to 11 of ISO/IEC Guide 25 I have ISO/IEC 17025, but not the previous standard. What clauses in ISO/IEC 17025 are equivalent to ISO 25 clauses 7 through 11 ? What is basis of competency testing, done to accredit the lab for SMT, that is required by an NCB of manufacturer's test lab personnel and facility, that is above and beyond that required in cl 5.4.5 of ISO 17025 ? In cl C2.3 - what is definition of a production sample ? Are there other standards that provide guidance to acceptance of manufacturer's test data for use in an NCB-generated CB Report ? What is the basis for allowing an NCB to accept manufacturer's test data for and to only review (not write) the CB Report under SMT in accordance with IECEE 02, Annex C ? Thanks much for any guidance and insight that can be shared. luck, Brian This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: metallic coatings
Related to the question ...UL 746C sub-clause 47 specifies testing for adhesion of metallized coatings for EMC purposes. They reference test criteria in ASTMD 3359..If you are submitting to UL and you want to use an EMC metallized coating in a product, where if the coating was to flake spacings would be compromised, UL will require you pass these testsWhen I investigated this in the past Europe did not have any similar tests so an Engineer from TUV in Germany told me he would accept the UL results.Although this may have changed..Anyone know of any similar requirements for adhesion testing for Europe?? From: Ilan Cohen [mailto:ico...@itl.co.il] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:53 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: metallic coatings Hi Ken From a safety point of view I typically recommend not to use coating on Plastics. The results can be destructive and dangerous. After some time you may end up with metallic coating parts falling on electronics and the results can be fire or electric hazard. UL has evaluated plastics and conductive coating for the plastics that matches and stays safe. Consult with UL people for the correct combination. Ilan -- Ilan Cohen Technical Director, Safety Telecom Divisions I.T.L (PRODUCT TESTING) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St, POB 211, Or Yehuda, Israel. Tel 972-3-5339022, Fax 972-3-5339019 ico...@itl.co.il, website: http://www.itl.co.il I-SPEC: The best place on the internet to learn about safety !! http://www.i-spec.com/ (I-Spec is provided free of charge as a service by ITL to the compliance community) - -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [ mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: metallic coatings Does anyone have any suggestions for a metallic coating that can be deposited on the interior of a plastic box that would need to meet military environmental conditions? Suggestions for other metallization techniques are also welcome. Thank you. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: CB, SMT, TMP
Joshua Yes, I know that 25 has been replaced by 17025, but the wonderful people that wrote IECEE 02:2001 did not refer to IEC 17025:1999. And I thought the purpose of standards was to provide for a uniform application of requirements. But I do tend to be a bit naive and foolish in my expectations... And in any case, when a voice in the wilderness asks what is the basis for x ? the real questions being asked typically are what is the rationale for these requirements? and how can I encourage the various agencies/NCBs to have more uniform requirements ?. luck, Brian -Original Message- From: Joshua Wiseman [ mailto:jwise...@printronix.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:56 AM To: Brian O'Connell; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CB, SMT, TMP Brian, As I understand it ISO/IEC 17025 replaced ISO/IEC Guide 25. The answers to your other questions will depend on who you are using for your NCB. Regards, Josh -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [ mailto:boconn...@t-yuden.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:30 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CB, SMT, TMP Good People IECEE 02, cl C1.2 requires lab conformity to ...clauses 7 to 11 of ISO/IEC Guide 25 I have ISO/IEC 17025, but not the previous standard. What clauses in ISO/IEC 17025 are equivalent to ISO 25 clauses 7 through 11 ? What is basis of competency testing, done to accredit the lab for SMT, that is required by an NCB of manufacturer's test lab personnel and facility, that is above and beyond that required in cl 5.4.5 of ISO 17025 ? In cl C2.3 - what is definition of a production sample ? Are there other standards that provide guidance to acceptance of manufacturer's test data for use in an NCB-generated CB Report ? What is the basis for allowing an NCB to accept manufacturer's test data for and to only review (not write) the CB Report under SMT in accordance with IECEE 02, Annex C ? Thanks much for any guidance and insight that can be shared. luck, Brian
RE: CB, SMT, TMP
Brian, As I understand it ISO/IEC 17025 replaced ISO/IEC Guide 25. The answers to your other questions will depend on who you are using for your NCB. Regards, Josh From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:boconn...@t-yuden.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:30 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CB, SMT, TMP Good People IECEE 02, cl C1.2 requires lab conformity to ...clauses 7 to 11 of ISO/IEC Guide 25 I have ISO/IEC 17025, but not the previous standard. What clauses in ISO/IEC 17025 are equivalent to ISO 25 clauses 7 through 11 ? What is basis of competency testing, done to accredit the lab for SMT, that is required by an NCB of manufacturer's test lab personnel and facility, that is above and beyond that required in cl 5.4.5 of ISO 17025 ? In cl C2.3 - what is definition of a production sample ? Are there other standards that provide guidance to acceptance of manufacturer's test data for use in an NCB-generated CB Report ? What is the basis for allowing an NCB to accept manufacturer's test data for and to only review (not write) the CB Report under SMT in accordance with IECEE 02, Annex C ? Thanks much for any guidance and insight that can be shared. luck, Brian This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
CB, SMT, TMP
Good People IECEE 02, cl C1.2 requires lab conformity to ...clauses 7 to 11 of ISO/IEC Guide 25 I have ISO/IEC 17025, but not the previous standard. What clauses in ISO/IEC 17025 are equivalent to ISO 25 clauses 7 through 11 ? What is basis of competency testing, done to accredit the lab for SMT, that is required by an NCB of manufacturer's test lab personnel and facility, that is above and beyond that required in cl 5.4.5 of ISO 17025 ? In cl C2.3 - what is definition of a production sample ? Are there other standards that provide guidance to acceptance of manufacturer's test data for use in an NCB-generated CB Report ? What is the basis for allowing an NCB to accept manufacturer's test data for and to only review (not write) the CB Report under SMT in accordance with IECEE 02, Annex C ? Thanks much for any guidance and insight that can be shared. luck, Brian
North American Automotive EMC
Hi Forum, Does the North American market require Automotive EMC similar to the European Automotive Directive? I am thinking about an ITE small product that meets the European Automotive Directive being sold in the USA/Canada. It already has the FCC Part 15 EMC Class A. Also, will using the same cigarette lighter cable be OK? I look forward, as always, to your kind and helpful replies. Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer This email has been scanned for all known viruses and appropriate content by the Messagelabs mail service. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: metallic coatings
Hi Ken From a safety point of view I typically recommend not to use coating on Plastics. The results can be destructive and dangerous. After some time you may end up with metallic coating parts falling on electronics and the results can be fire or electric hazard. UL has evaluated plastics and conductive coating for the plastics that matches and stays safe. Consult with UL people for the correct combination. Ilan -- Ilan Cohen Technical Director, Safety Telecom Divisions I.T.L (PRODUCT TESTING) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St, POB 211, Or Yehuda, Israel. Tel 972-3-5339022, Fax 972-3-5339019 ico...@itl.co.il, website: http://www.itl.co.il I-SPEC: The best place on the internet to learn about safety !! http://www.i-spec.com/ (I-Spec is provided free of charge as a service by ITL to the compliance community) - -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [ mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: metallic coatings Does anyone have any suggestions for a metallic coating that can be deposited on the interior of a plastic box that would need to meet military environmental conditions? Suggestions for other metallization techniques are also welcome. Thank you. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: metallic coatings
-Original Message- From: Ken Javor [ mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:03 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: metallic coatings Does anyone have any suggestions for a metallic coating that can be deposited on the interior of a plastic box that would need to meet military environmental conditions? Suggestions for other metallization techniques are also welcome. Thank you. Ken: Some of our recent products for the Army Marines used plastic and composite materials for cases. We used electroless nickel, and had no problems. Of course, the need for shielding was known from the start, so the mechanical guys were able to design the cases without difficult internal corners and problematic sealing surfaces. Mating the MIL connectors to the shielding was a bit more difficult, but we used a combination of clamped surfaces, conductive elastomer gaskets and conductive epoxy. Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com WB6WSN NARTE Certified EMC Engineer Technician Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Applications San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty
Australia and Radio Lans
We have an ITE product that includes a 2.45 GHz spread spectrum, low power, radio LAN card. For Australia, I understand that compliance with the following is necessary and sufficient: * Compliance with the technical requirements of ACA Radiocommunications Class Licence (Spread Spectrum Devices). * Compliance with the technical requirements of ACA Radiocommunications (Electromagnetic Radiation - Human Exposure) Standard 2001. * Compliance with the technical requirements of the EMC regulations including C-tick marking and the Declaration of Conformity. I understand there are no other licensing, marking or declaration requirements. Is this correct? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
