CCC mark China

2003-02-26 Thread Jan Vercammen


Hello,

I am very grateful for all those who replied on the CCC mark question. Many
thanks.


Kind regards,

Jan Vercammen
Agfa-Gevaert NV, Belgium



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RE: CCC mark China

2003-02-25 Thread Jim Bacher

Jan, one of the items that makes it confusing is, that you submit a test
reports (EMC and CB) with the unit to be tested. That makes it look like
they accept the reports when they do not. I believe that the reports are
used to duplicate the tests. 

As for wireless, it is the MII that does the radio certifications. 

Jim

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From: Jan Vercammen [mailto:jan.vercamm...@agfa.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:19 AM
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Subject: CCC mark China




Hello,

I have some questions concerning the CCC mark in China with respect to EMC
and radio
spectrum matters.

-1- I receive contradicting information about EMC compliance in China. On
one hand I have
information which asserts that China recognizes EMC laboratories outside
China. For Belgium these
are CEBEC recognised laboratories. On the other hand I also have
information that this is not correct
and that products need to be retested by CCC recognised lab's, which are
located in the
Asian area (China region - I have a list of lab's). What is correct?

-2- I have checked  the CCC classification. It does not look complete
(yet). It could be that our
product does not fit the classification list (yet).

-3- We have a product tested according to IEC 60601-1-1 (safety)  and IEC
60601-1-2 (EMC).
 Can anyone explain what one should do to obtain the CCC mark in simple
terms.

-4- The product also includes a short range device (SRD) operating at
13.56MHz. It has been
tested according to ETSI 300330 (radio parameters) and ETSI 301 489-3
(radio EMC)  and FCC
part 15. The same question as in -3-, what one should do to obtain the CCC
mark. It does not
get easier!


Kind regards,

Jan Vercammen
Agfa-Gevaert NV, Belgium








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Re: CCC mark China

2003-02-25 Thread David Heald

Jan,
   I can answer the first part of your question.  In October 2002, I 
attended a presentation given by representatives of China's CNCA.  At 
that time, plans existed to eventually certify labs outside of China, 
but it was not expected to occur in the foreseeable future.  Note that 
this was an official government delegation so the answer was straight 
>from the horse's mouth.

Having said that, there are many agencies outside of China who will 
escort your product through the process (in China) and can apparently do 
so fairly quickly.

Best Regards,
Dave Heald

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Jan Vercammen wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have some questions concerning the CCC mark in China with respect to EMC
> and radio
> spectrum matters.
> 
> -1- I receive contradicting information about EMC compliance in China. On
> one hand I have
> information which asserts that China recognizes EMC laboratories outside
> China. For Belgium these
> are CEBEC recognised laboratories. On the other hand I also have
> information that this is not correct
> and that products need to be retested by CCC recognised lab's, which are
> located in the
> Asian area (China region - I have a list of lab's). What is correct?
> 
> -2- I have checked  the CCC classification. It does not look complete
> (yet). It could be that our
> product does not fit the classification list (yet).
> 
> -3- We have a product tested according to IEC 60601-1-1 (safety)  and IEC
> 60601-1-2 (EMC).
>  Can anyone explain what one should do to obtain the CCC mark in simple
> terms.
> 
> -4- The product also includes a short range device (SRD) operating at
> 13.56MHz. It has been
> tested according to ETSI 300330 (radio parameters) and ETSI 301 489-3
> (radio EMC)  and FCC
> part 15. The same question as in -3-, what one should do to obtain the CCC
> mark. It does not
> get easier!
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jan Vercammen
> Agfa-Gevaert NV, Belgium
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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CCC mark China

2003-02-25 Thread Jan Vercammen


Hello,

I have some questions concerning the CCC mark in China with respect to EMC
and radio
spectrum matters.

-1- I receive contradicting information about EMC compliance in China. On
one hand I have
information which asserts that China recognizes EMC laboratories outside
China. For Belgium these
are CEBEC recognised laboratories. On the other hand I also have
information that this is not correct
and that products need to be retested by CCC recognised lab's, which are
located in the
Asian area (China region - I have a list of lab's). What is correct?

-2- I have checked  the CCC classification. It does not look complete
(yet). It could be that our
product does not fit the classification list (yet).

-3- We have a product tested according to IEC 60601-1-1 (safety)  and IEC
60601-1-2 (EMC).
 Can anyone explain what one should do to obtain the CCC mark in simple
terms.

-4- The product also includes a short range device (SRD) operating at
13.56MHz. It has been
tested according to ETSI 300330 (radio parameters) and ETSI 301 489-3
(radio EMC)  and FCC
part 15. The same question as in -3-, what one should do to obtain the CCC
mark. It does not
get easier!


Kind regards,

Jan Vercammen
Agfa-Gevaert NV, Belgium








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