RE: CISPR22 applicability for ITE
Hi Forum, Thanks for the comprehensive replies to my query on the above subject. I for one truly appreciate the expertise of this forum and the time taken out by members to help out even though they will no doubt be extremely busy people (as most Compliance people are!!). Special mention to Ghery Pettit, Kristiaan Carpentier and Andy White...thanks! Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer From: Alex McNeil Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:22 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CISPR22 applicability for ITE Hi Guys, Q1: Is it true that USA and Canada accept CISPR22:1997/A1:2000 instead of FCC Part 15 and ICES-003? and only if tested per ANSI C63-4:2002 methods? Q2: Is it true that Australia now accepts EN55022:1998 or CISPR22:1997+A1:2000 and/or CISPR22:2003 4th Edition? Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer This email has been scanned for all known viruses and appropriate content by the Messagelabs mail service. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: CISPR22 applicability for ITE
Alex, The FCC does not accept Amendment A1:2000 to CISPR 22:1997. They have not accepted the ferrite clamps, and with the work that is going on in CISPR SC I to remove the clamps from CISPR 22:2003 the work in ANSI C63 to add them to ANSI C63.4 has ceased. Likewise, the FCC does not mandate telecommunication port conducted emissions testing. The FCC will allow you to test to the radiated emissions limits from 30 MHz to 1 GHz in CISPR 22 in lieu of the limits called out in 15.109 of the FCC Rules, but you must still use the test methods in ANSI C63.4. If testing above 1 GHz is required under the FCC Rules based on the maximum clock used in the product, that testing must also be performed, regardless of which limits were used below 1 GHz. Ghery Pettit Intel Corporation From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Alex McNeil Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:22 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CISPR22 applicability for ITE Hi Guys, Q1: Is it true that USA and Canada accept CISPR22:1997/A1:2000 instead of FCC Part 15 and ICES-003? and only if tested per ANSI C63-4:2002 methods? Q2: Is it true that Australia now accepts EN55022:1998 or CISPR22:1997+A1:2000 and/or CISPR22:2003 4th Edition? Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer This email has been scanned for all known viruses and appropriate content by the Messagelabs mail service. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: CISPR22 applicability for ITE
Alex, CISPR22 can be used but do not override the FCC requirements e.g. part 15.33 indicates for intentional radiators testing up to the 10th harmonic of the fundamental (if the fund. is below 10GHz) or test up to 40GHz which ever is lower. Also for unintentional radiators the highest frequency generated within the device also indicates the upper freq. of measurement e.g. for signals being generated within the EUT between 500MHz to 1000MHz, test up to 5GHz. CISPR22 does not mandate testing above 1GHz and most ITE (nowadays)will require testing above 1GHz to meet the requirements of FCC rules. Andy _ Andy White EMC Engineer Nokia Mobile Phones San Diego, CA Tel 858 831 4534 andy.wh...@nokia.com _ From: ext Alex McNeil [mailto:alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:22 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CISPR22 applicability for ITE Hi Guys, Q1: Is it true that USA and Canada accept CISPR22:1997/A1:2000 instead of FCC Part 15 and ICES-003? and only if tested per ANSI C63-4:2002 methods? Q2: Is it true that Australia now accepts EN55022:1998 or CISPR22:1997+A1:2000 and/or CISPR22:2003 4th Edition? Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer This email has been scanned for all known viruses and appropriate content by the Messagelabs mail service. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: CISPR22 applicability for ITE
Alex, About Q2: I copy a posting from Sept. 8th on a similar question that I raised at that time. As CISPR22, 4th ed is not published in the OJ yet as an EN55022, it cannot be used yet. * The EMC regulations in Australia allow compliance with any of the following for IT type equipment: a) AS/NZS 3548:1995 or AS/NZS CISPR 22:2002; or b) CISPR 22:1997 + Amdt 1:2000 or CISPR 22:1997 + Amdt 1:2000 + Amdt 2:2002; or c) EN 55022:1994 + Amdt 1:1995 + Amdt 2:1997 (until Aug 05) or EN 55022:1998 or EN 55022:1998 + Amdt 1:2000 For European standards the Australian EMC regulations specifically states the following:- Transitional arrangements for amendments to the standards are: - Two (2) years for IEC, CISPR, AS/NZS standards at the time of publication - transitional period as published in the Official Journal of the European Communities for EN standards This means that if you choose to declare compliance to European standards now that Europe has officially revised the cessation date for EN 55022:1994 to Aug 05 then compliance with EN 55022:1994 is acceptable in Australia until Aug 05. In July I prepared a table identifying what standards were acceptable in Australia and until what dates they were acceptable. I have attached this information in a PDF file. Please note it reflects the then official OJ listed cessation date for EN 55022:1994 (i.e. Aug 03). Now the OJ has officially revised this date to Aug 05 this standard would be acceptable until then. I hope you and others in the group find the table informative and useful. Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited Compliance Solutions for Technology Products (Legislation/Regulations/Standards/Australian Agent Services) Ph: 02-4329-4070 (Int'l: +61-2-4329-4070) Fax: 02-4328-5639 (Int'l: +61-2-4328-5639) Mobile: 04-1224-1620 (Int'l: +61-4-1224-1620) Email:kevin.richard...@ieee.org * Vriendelijke Groeten, Best regards, Meilleures salutations, Kristiaan Carpentier Regulatory and Approval Engineer Thomson multimedia Broadband Belgium N.V., S.A. Prins Boudewijnlaan 47, B-2650 Edegem, Belgium Tel: +32 3 443 6407 - Fax: +32 3 443 6632 e-mail: kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net www.speedtouch.com From: Alex McNeil [mailto:alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com] Sent: vrijdag 10 oktober 2003 10:22 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CISPR22 applicability for ITE Hi Guys, Q1: Is it true that USA and Canada accept CISPR22:1997/A1:2000 instead of FCC Part 15 and ICES-003? and only if tested per ANSI C63-4:2002 methods? Q2: Is it true that Australia now accepts EN55022:1998 or CISPR22:1997+A1:2000 and/or CISPR22:2003 4th Edition? Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer This email has been scanned for all known viruses and appropriate content by the Messagelabs mail service. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
