Re: Wiring under raised floors

2000-09-26 Thread Robert Johnson

Cables under raised floors are currently the subject of a proposal to change
the code regarding them as follows:
12-101 -( 645-5(d)(5)):
SUBMITTER: Rick Zupan, Lake Oswego, OR
RECOMMENDATION:
Revise as follows:
645-5(d)(5) Cable, other than those covered in (b) and (2) and those complying
with (a), (b) and (c) below, shall be listed as type DP cable having adequate
fire-resistant characteristics suitable for use under raised floors of an
information technology equipment room.
SUBSTANTIATION:
The local authority having jurisdiction has decided that barring explicit
language allowing it flexible cords cannot be used to plug into underfloor
receptacles, this should correct this.

The NEC code panel 12 statement in response reads:
Requirements for the use of listed DP cable were put into the NEC because of
the panel's concerns that cables under the raised floor should pass the
vertical flame test. Permitting other than DP cables would not fall within the
purpose of the Code as outlined in 90-1. The Code already contains explicit
language prohibiting the use of other than DP-type cable.

This response is open for comment and will be acted upon in a meeting in
December regarding disposition of this and other proposed changes to the NEC.
Comments MUST be received by NFPA by 27 Oct 00. To comment, see
http://www.nfpa.org/submitterapp2.html
For other code information see http://www.nfpa.org/Codes/

My personal views are as follows:
The panel statement says that only DP cables but not flexible cords are
permitted beneath raised floors. This is historically incorrect.
- The allowance of receptacles beneath raised floors, 645-5(d)(2), prior to the
development of DP cables has always implied flexible cords would be permitted
below raised floors in order to plug into those receptacles.
- DP cables have not been intended for use as power cords. They were introduced
recently to the code and ITE standards for use as interconnecting cables.
- Type DP cables are not present in article 400, are not hard service cord
types, and therefore would not be usable for power cords on machines outside
computer rooms. Manufacturers would have to either market two machine types or
institute cord replacement in the field. Field rewiring is significantly less
safe and dependable than that done and tested in manufacturing facilities.
- During the introduction of DP cables it was never mentioned that DP cables
were required to replace flexible cords. Prohibiting the use of flexible cords
for power cords below raised floors, if it is desired by the committee, should
be the subject of a new proposal with full consideration of its impact on
current installations and providing a timetable for implementation.
- No current products or installations use DP cables for power cords since such
construction is not allowed by UL 1950. The only power cords presently
permitted by UL 1950 for floor mounted equipment are: SJ, SJE, SJO, SJOO, SJT,
SJTO, SVTOO, S, SE, SO, SOO, ST, STO, STOO.
- The interpretation that only DP cables could be used for power cordage below
raised floors would result in placement of receptacles and power cords above
the floor, increasing trip hazards and increasing the risk of damage to cords.
- Rejecting this proposal with the publication of the current panel statement
would have the result of a change to the code and current usage.
- Standard power cords run below raised floors constitutes essentially 100% of
current usage and has not been shown to be a problem.
I recommend accepting 12-101 as a correction to an error in the current code.


ted.eck...@apcc.com wrote:

 Is it permissible to place electrical receptacles under the raised floor of
 a computer room?  Can power cords pass through openings in the raised floor
 or do all power connections need to be in conduit?  I have received two
 opinions; one stating that receptacles must be accessible above floor level
 and the other stating that receptacles can be placed below the floor.

 The United States National Electrical Code is a bit vague on the subject,
 although Article 645-5 (d) (2) seems to imply that conduit is only required
 up to the receptacle.  I can find no references to raised floor
 installations in the Canadian Electrical Code or BS 7671, IEE Wiring
 Regulations.

 Ted Eckert
 Regulatory Compliance Engineer
 American Power Conversion Corporation
 ted.eck...@apcc.com



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Re: Wiring under raised floors

2000-09-22 Thread mike harris
Hi Ted,

If I recall correctly, another code concern might be that pluggable items are 
intended to be accessible so they can be unplugged in the event of fire or 
shock. If the outlet is under a floor it cannot be seen, and cannot be accessed 
easily for disconnection.

Mike Harris
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From: Peter Tarver ptar...@nortelnetworks.com
To: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org
Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: Wiring under raised floors


Ted - 

At issue, really, is whether or not the under side of the raised floor is 
used for environmental air, not simply that it's in a computer room.  For the 
question at hand, though, I'll assume that's the case.

My first inclination is to say it's not allowed.  If you also look at 
300-22 of the NEC, you'll note that devices generally aren't allowed in 
environmental air spaces.  However, if the devices are used in the other 
spaces loosely described in 300-22(c), there's the option of the device being 
certified for the application.  I can imagine receptacles being made entirely 
of thermosetting materials that could quite possibly comply with the relevant 
requirements (say, in UL910) and being allowed under the raised floor.

Ultimately, though, it comes down to what the local Authority Having 
Jurisdiction has to say about an installation.  Some may argue against your 
scenario, while others may not care.

Regards, 

Peter L. Tarver, PE 
ptar...@nortelnetworks.com 



-Original Message- 
From: ted.eck...@apcc.com [mailto:ted.eck...@apcc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:12 PM 

Is it permissible to place electrical receptacles under the raised floor of 
a computer room?  Can power cords pass through openings in the raised floor 
or do all power connections need to be in conduit?  I have received two 
opinions; one stating that receptacles must be accessible above floor level 
and the other stating that receptacles can be placed below the floor. 

The United States National Electrical Code is a bit vague on the subject, 
although Article 645-5 (d) (2) seems to imply that conduit is only required 
up to the receptacle.  I can find no references to raised floor 
installations in the Canadian Electrical Code or BS 7671, IEE Wiring 
Regulations. 

Ted Eckert 



Re: Wiring under raised floors

2000-09-21 Thread Doug

ted.eck...@apcc.com wrote:
 
 Is it permissible to place electrical receptacles under the raised floor of
 a computer room?  Can power cords pass through openings in the raised floor
 or do all power connections need to be in conduit?  I have received two
 opinions; one stating that receptacles must be accessible above floor level
 and the other stating that receptacles can be placed below the floor.
 
 The United States National Electrical Code is a bit vague on the subject,
 although Article 645-5 (d) (2) seems to imply that conduit is only required
 up to the receptacle.  I can find no references to raised floor
 installations in the Canadian Electrical Code or BS 7671, IEE Wiring
 Regulations.


Ted, 

In order that your company NEVER have any problems with 
this issue ever, you will have to follow NEC 645-5 to 
the letter.  Ultimately, it's up to the interpretation 
of the local inspector. 

Having been called on the rug about this very issue from 
just one customer within the past year, my *suggestion* is: 
Do NOT put ANY power cords under a raised floor no matter 
if it's a plenum issue or not and no matter how long or 
short that power cord may be - none.  

Unless of course you can procure the style power cord 
required by the standard.  And good luck with that. 

- Regards, Doug McKean

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RE: Wiring under raised floors

2000-09-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Ted -

At issue, really, is whether or not the under side of the raised floor is
used for environmental air, not simply that it's in a computer room.  For
the question at hand, though, I'll assume that's the case.

My first inclination is to say it's not allowed.  If you also look at 300-22
of the NEC, you'll note that devices generally aren't allowed in
environmental air spaces.  However, if the devices are used in the other
spaces loosely described in 300-22(c), there's the option of the device
being certified for the application.  I can imagine receptacles being made
entirely of thermosetting materials that could quite possibly comply with
the relevant requirements (say, in UL910) and being allowed under the raised
floor.

Ultimately, though, it comes down to what the local Authority Having
Jurisdiction has to say about an installation.  Some may argue against your
scenario, while others may not care.

Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
ptar...@nortelnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: ted.eck...@apcc.com [mailto:ted.eck...@apcc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:12 PM

Is it permissible to place electrical receptacles under the raised floor of
a computer room?  Can power cords pass through openings in the raised floor
or do all power connections need to be in conduit?  I have received two
opinions; one stating that receptacles must be accessible above floor level
and the other stating that receptacles can be placed below the floor.

The United States National Electrical Code is a bit vague on the subject,
although Article 645-5 (d) (2) seems to imply that conduit is only required
up to the receptacle.  I can find no references to raised floor
installations in the Canadian Electrical Code or BS 7671, IEE Wiring
Regulations.

Ted Eckert


RE: Wiring under raised floors

2000-09-20 Thread Mike Cantwell

Section 645-5 of the United States National Electrical Code states that the
branch-circuit conductors must be in conduit. If these branch circuits feed
a receptacle, it is acceptable for the receptacle to be located under the
floor so long as the receptacle is accessible (i.e. a floor panel can be
easily removed) and that the power cord is type DP (other type designations
are listed in the code as well, I leave it to others to describe the
differences). 

I have seen computer rooms in the US with receptacles located below the
raised floor and not heard of any issues. I think the bigger issue is that
of having power and signal cables in the same proximity causing EMI type
problems.

-Original Message-
From: ted.eck...@apcc.com [mailto:ted.eck...@apcc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:12 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Wiring under raised floors



Is it permissible to place electrical receptacles under the raised floor of
a computer room?  Can power cords pass through openings in the raised floor
or do all power connections need to be in conduit?  I have received two
opinions; one stating that receptacles must be accessible above floor level
and the other stating that receptacles can be placed below the floor.

The United States National Electrical Code is a bit vague on the subject,
although Article 645-5 (d) (2) seems to imply that conduit is only required
up to the receptacle.  I can find no references to raised floor
installations in the Canadian Electrical Code or BS 7671, IEE Wiring
Regulations.

Ted Eckert
Regulatory Compliance Engineer
American Power Conversion Corporation
ted.eck...@apcc.com

The items contained in this e-mail reflect the personal opinions of the
writer and are only provided for the assistance of the reader.  The writer
is not speaking in an official capacity for APC nor representing APC's
official position on any matter.


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