Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
 
Thanks Grace! 

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From: Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation
To: Price, Edward ed.pr...@cubic.com
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Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 10:07 AM


The best way to approach is to ask the customers/buyers.
 
From my own opinion, for those organizations/companies and individuals 
that
do not receive government fund should not be worry about.  

 
On 6/16/09, Price, Edward ed.pr...@cubic.com
http://us.mc301.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ed.pr...@cubic.com  wrote: 



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 Subject: Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation

 Jeff,

 My interpretation:  If you (your employer) do not sell your
 products to Chinese government(or any party subject to
 government rules), you don't need to worry about the rules
 (similar to WLAN products).

 I attach a quick translation for your reference.

 Regards,
 Grace Lin



Now that opens up a whole new dimension! What Chinese entities 
are NOT
subject to Chinese government rules?


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Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The best way to approach is to ask the customers/buyers.
 
From my own opinion, for those organizations/companies and individuals that do
not receive government fund should not be worry about.  

 
On 6/16/09, Price, Edward ed.pr...@cubic.com wrote: 



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 Subject: Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation

 Jeff,

 My interpretation:  If you (your employer) do not sell your
 products to Chinese government(or any party subject to
 government rules), you don't need to worry about the rules
 (similar to WLAN products).

 I attach a quick translation for your reference.

 Regards,
 Grace Lin



Now that opens up a whole new dimension! What Chinese entities are NOT
subject to Chinese government rules?


Ed Price
ed.pr...@cubic.com WB6WSN
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Applications
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858-505-2780
Military  Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty

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RE: New China CCC Document - English Translation

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
 

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 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf 
 Of Grace Lin
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:49 AM
 To: jeffcollin...@yahoo.com
 Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
 Subject: Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation
 
 Jeff,
 
 My interpretation:  If you (your employer) do not sell your 
 products to Chinese government(or any party subject to 
 government rules), you don't need to worry about the rules 
 (similar to WLAN products).
 
 I attach a quick translation for your reference.
 
 Regards,
 Grace Lin



Now that opens up a whole new dimension! What Chinese entities are NOT
subject to Chinese government rules?


Ed Price
ed.pr...@cubic.com WB6WSN
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Applications
San Diego, CA  USA
858-505-2780
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Re: New China CCC Document - English Translation

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Jeff,

My interpretation:  If you (your employer) do not sell your products
to Chinese government(or any party subject to government rules), you
don't need to worry about the rules (similar to WLAN products).

I attach a quick translation for your reference.

Regards,
Grace Lin

==
An engineer from China Information Security Certification Center gave
me a call.  The requirements for the implementation rules of
compulsory certification for the information security products have
been published.  Please refer to the following.

No. 33, Year 2009

The compulsory implementation of information security products listed
in 2008 CNCA Notice No. 7 has been postponed to May 1, 2010.  It is
implemented under the scope of government purchase (this means, from
my interpretation,  if the buyer is not a Chinese government, the
rules are not mandatory).

Announced
Attachments:  Complulsory Certification Implementation Rules for
Information Security Products

No 33, Year 2009

1. Security Operating Systems
2. Securiy Isolation and Informaiton Exchane Products
3. Security Router Products
4. Security Audit Products
5. Security Database Systems Products
6. Anti-trash Emails Products
7. Firewall Products
8. Intruder Detector Systems Products
9. Database Backup and Recovery Products
10. Network Security Isolation Cards and Circuit Selector Products
11. Network Weakness Scanning Products
12. Network Recovery Products
13. Wisdom Card cos Products

April 27, 2009

 ===


On 6/16/09, jeffcollin...@yahoo.com jeffcollin...@yahoo.com wrote:





 Group,

 The official CNCA document  for CCC compliance was just released in May
 2009. Does anyone have an official or unofficial translation in English? I'm
 specifically interested in knowing if Network Intrusion and Network
 Monitoring equipment now require the CCC mark. These categories of network
 equipment were previously exempt from CCC.




 信息安全认证中心的工程师刚给我电话, 关于调整信息安全产品强制性认证实施要求的公告发布了,请参见下面。
 2009年第33号
     关于调整信息安全产品强制性认证实施要求的公告
 
 国家质量监督检验检疫总局、国家认证认可监督管理委员会2008年第7号公告中涉及的信息安全产品强制性认证的强制实施时间延至2010年5月1日,在政府采购法规定的范围内强制实施。
 特此公告。
   附件:信息安全产品强制性认证实施规则(共13份)

   1. 安全操作系统产品强制性认证实施规则
   2. 安全隔离与信息交换产品强制性认证实施规则
   3. 安全路由器产品强制性认证实施规则
   4. 安全审计产品强制性认证实施规则
   5. 安全数据库系统产品强制性认证实施规则
   6. 反垃圾邮件产品强制性认证实施规则
   7. 防火墙产品强制性认证实施规则
   8. 入侵检测系统产品强制性认证实施规则
   9. 数据备份与恢复产品强制认证实施规则
   10. 网络安全隔离卡与线路选择器产品强制性认证实施规则
   11. 网络脆弱性扫描产品强制性认证实施规则
   12. 网站恢复产品强制性认证实施规则
   13. 智能卡cos产品强制性认证实施规则
    
 二九年四月二十七日





 新的公告明确了在政府采购法规定的范围内强制实施。如果不参加政府采购,则不受限制。请参考。

 Thanks,

 Jeff Collins


 Compliance  Reliability


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