Re: [Emc-users] Log file

2011-03-13 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:12:17PM +0330, Farzin Kamangar wrote:
 We need some way to record login name of machine users, date and
 time of operations to have the information to refer to at a later time.

Having never heard of such functionality, I spent a minute on a crude
wrapper:

Copy this to /usr/local/bin/run_emc »
#!/bin/bash

# Wrapper to record who used emc, when, and for how long.

record=/var/tmp/emc_usage
[ ! -e $record ]  touch $record

# Nothing fancy == easy for anyone to customise:
echo  $record
whoami  $record
echo Started EMC2 at:  $record
date  $record
/usr/bin/emc
echo Session ended at:  $record
date  $record

« - That's all.

Make it executable:

$ chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/run_emc

Try it out:

$ run_emc

OK, now we make swarf, then close the application.

To check the record:

$ more /var/tmp/emc_usage 

erik
Started EMC2 at:
Sun Mar 13 20:41:27 EST 2011
Session ended at:
Sun Mar 13 20:41:46 EST 2011

That's an easy way to do it, given that you have individual user
accounts for us to pick up user identification.

Near enough for starters?

Erik

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Re: [Emc-users] Chips on Flash

2011-03-13 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/12/2011 11:09 PM, Kenneth Lerman wrote:
 A first class parcel costs $1.05 plus .17 per ounce.

 That's pretty cheap.

 Ken

 On 03/12/2011 09:53 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 On 3/11/2011 11:32 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 I'm not sure how typical my situation is, but it costs me about $20 to
 download 1GB of data, so it's not exactly cheap to download the latest
 EMC2. I wonder if there would be a demand for EMC2 on some sort of flash
 media? How cheap could it be?
 I didn't see anyone directly address your question, Kirk.

 Looking at my latest MicroCenter flyer, 2GB USB flash drives are going
 for about 5USD, retail. I couldn't find anyone advertising quantity
 discounts, but I didn't look very hard.

 I'm not sure about the best method for shipment, but the lowest postal
 service rate is 2.38USD for media mail up to 1 pound. Let's call it
 3USD to account for packaging.

 Not counting the labor/time to acquire, burn, and test the flash drive,
 that's about 8USD delivered, or about 40 percent of your current cost.
 If you provided your own flash drive, the cost would fall to about
 5-6USD (e.g., the cost of shipping the drive both ways).

 Burning CDs instead would result in a cost somewhere around 3-4USD,
 although more time is required to burn and test the CD.

 It seems to me this method is most likely to work well by pairing up
 with a buddy who has better Internet access rather than depending on the
 EMC2 developers.

 I'm not sure, though, what you mean by the latest EMC2. If this means
 the latest LiveCD distribution, then the burden on the buddy is pretty
 minimal. If you mean EMC2 as of last night along with an fully patched
 Ubuntu, then the burden on the buddy is greater.

 Regards,
 Kent

 (willing to be a small-time buddy)

And I find that I misinterpreted what media mail means. It isn't 
appropriate for this use in any case.

So maybe subtract a dollar each way from my estimate---with the caveat 
that my USPS office, at least, interprets their regulations 
scrupulously, which drives my wife crazy when she wants to send those 
musical greeting cards to our grandkids. I'd want to discuss with them 
the optimal packaging and rate selection for sending flash drives.

Regards,
Kent

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread Mark
I'd write a small program in c or python to solve this.

You only need to solve the problem for 1/4 of the perimeter. After that,
rotate and mirror

Here are my thoughts on solving it:

   - find parameteric equations for an arc of the circle in 1st quadrant and
   the edge of the square
  - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_equation
  - for simplicity, I'm assuming a radius of 1
  - circle: x=a*cos(t); y=a*sin(t); in first quadrant, 0tpi/2
  - line with slope -1: *x1=-t+1; y1=t; 0t1*
  - circle with parameter range 0 to 1: *x2=cos(pi*t/2); y2=sin(pi*t/2);
  0t1*
  - assuming material thickness of 1 unit, with the square on the bottom
   at z=0: *z1=0; z2=1*
   - compute n values of x1,y1,x2,y2 between 0 and 1 with a for loop
   - use x2, y2, z2 as X,Y,Z in the gcode
  - use x1, y1, z1, x2, y2, z2 to find values for A, B, and/or C

Mark

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello, gentlemen!

 I would like to ask, if anyone has an idea, how to create a code to
 produce this kind of part (both files contain the same model, I just
 saved it in 2 different formats):
 http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/Test.IGS
 http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/Test.STL

 My goal would be cutting this part from thick slab of material. Those
 flat planes represent top and bottom surfaces of the slab.
 Basically I would like to get code, in which the waterjet (or any 5
 axis plasma or  cuts a circle on the top, but rotary joints that tilt
 the head would move so that something like a square is on the bottom.

 So the problem is finding out the necessary tilt angle, which
 corresponds to the slope of the edge. I thought that it could be
 something like dividing the top contour (in this case - the circle) in
 0.1 mm segments and then getting the slope angle, but I have no idea,
 how to do that.

 Can anyone recommend some kind of solution? Is there some _affordable_
 CAM application that can do that (I have found one that costs 12K EUR,
 but I do not even consider that to be an option)? Or can I calculate
 that myself with some trigonometry? Since I know the distance from one
 plane to another (that is the thickness of material), I would need
 only horizontal distance from one line to another to get the angle
 with atan function. The distance between both lines could be
 calculated in 0,1 - 0,2 mm increments. That would not affect the
 quality of the result and probably would not create insanely long code
 for such a small part.

 I would appreciate any ideas on this matter.
 I think that any solution that works will do!

 Thanks,
 Viesturs


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread Lars Andersson
Suggest a search on the keyword lofting, this is similar (maybe) to your
problem.

 -Original Message-
 From: Viesturs Lācis [mailto:viesturs.la...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 12 mars 2011 23:30
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: [Emc-users] CAM-related question
 
 Hello, gentlemen!
 
 I would like to ask, if anyone has an idea, how to create a code to
 produce this kind of part (both files contain the same model, I just
 saved it in 2 different formats):
 http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/Test.IGS
 http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/Test.STL
 
 My goal would be cutting this part from thick slab of material. Those
 flat planes represent top and bottom surfaces of the slab.
 Basically I would like to get code, in which the waterjet (or any 5
 axis plasma or  cuts a circle on the top, but rotary joints that tilt
 the head would move so that something like a square is on the bottom.
 
 So the problem is finding out the necessary tilt angle, which
 corresponds to the slope of the edge. I thought that it could be
 something like dividing the top contour (in this case - the circle) in
 0.1 mm segments and then getting the slope angle, but I have no idea,
 how to do that.
 
 Can anyone recommend some kind of solution? Is there some _affordable_
 CAM application that can do that (I have found one that costs 12K EUR,
 but I do not even consider that to be an option)? Or can I calculate
 that myself with some trigonometry? Since I know the distance from one
 plane to another (that is the thickness of material), I would need
 only horizontal distance from one line to another to get the angle
 with atan function. The distance between both lines could be
 calculated in 0,1 - 0,2 mm increments. That would not affect the
 quality of the result and probably would not create insanely long code
 for such a small part.
 
 I would appreciate any ideas on this matter.
 I think that any solution that works will do!
 
 Thanks,
 Viesturs
 
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[Emc-users] Icon for pyVCP

2011-03-13 Thread Kirk Wallace
I have a stand alone pyVCP application that configures a Modbus device.
I would like to have an icon and script that invokes the application.
The problem is that halrun requires the -I (interactive) option. When I
close the application, a terminal is left open with the halcmd prompt.
From there 'quit' or 'exit' is needed to completely close the session.
Does anyone have a script that can bring up pyVCP and close it
completely, or some other solution? I suppose the 'emc' script does this
for EMC2 but it would take me a while to figure out how emc works and
then to modify it to my application.
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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread dave
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 11:45 -0400, Mark wrote:
 I'd write a small program in c or python to solve this.
 
 You only need to solve the problem for 1/4 of the perimeter. After that,
 rotate and mirror
 
 Here are my thoughts on solving it:
 
- find parameteric equations for an arc of the circle in 1st quadrant and
the edge of the square
   - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_equation
   - for simplicity, I'm assuming a radius of 1
   - circle: x=a*cos(t); y=a*sin(t); in first quadrant, 0tpi/2
   - line with slope -1: *x1=-t+1; y1=t; 0t1*
   - circle with parameter range 0 to 1: *x2=cos(pi*t/2); y2=sin(pi*t/2);
   0t1*
   - assuming material thickness of 1 unit, with the square on the bottom
at z=0: *z1=0; z2=1*
- compute n values of x1,y1,x2,y2 between 0 and 1 with a for loop
- use x2, y2, z2 as X,Y,Z in the gcode
   - use x1, y1, z1, x2, y2, z2 to find values for A, B, and/or C
 
 Mark
 
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Viesturs Lācis 
 viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hello, gentlemen!
 
  I would like to ask, if anyone has an idea, how to create a code to
  produce this kind of part (both files contain the same model, I just
  saved it in 2 different formats):
  http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/Test.IGS
  http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/Test.STL
 
  My goal would be cutting this part from thick slab of material. Those
  flat planes represent top and bottom surfaces of the slab.
  Basically I would like to get code, in which the waterjet (or any 5
  axis plasma or  cuts a circle on the top, but rotary joints that tilt
  the head would move so that something like a square is on the bottom.
 
  So the problem is finding out the necessary tilt angle, which
  corresponds to the slope of the edge. I thought that it could be
  something like dividing the top contour (in this case - the circle) in
  0.1 mm segments and then getting the slope angle, but I have no idea,
  how to do that.
 
  Can anyone recommend some kind of solution? Is there some _affordable_
  CAM application that can do that (I have found one that costs 12K EUR,
  but I do not even consider that to be an option)? Or can I calculate
  that myself with some trigonometry? Since I know the distance from one
  plane to another (that is the thickness of material), I would need
  only horizontal distance from one line to another to get the angle
  with atan function. The distance between both lines could be
  calculated in 0,1 - 0,2 mm increments. That would not affect the
  quality of the result and probably would not create insanely long code
  for such a small part.
 
  I would appreciate any ideas on this matter.
  I think that any solution that works will do!
 
  Thanks,
  Viesturs
 
Hi Viesturs, 

That must have been a pretty clean iges file as it imported into synergy
just fine. Much better than some of the Catia stuff I've gotten. 

Unfortunately, I don't have the slightest how to CAM it in 4 axis or 5
axis. 
It is rather small so 4 axis should do it. 

Just plain calculations do make sense and even if the code is 10K lines
or so you really don't care. 

Have fun. 

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/3/13 Mark mpic...@gmail.com:
 I'd write a small program in c or python to solve this.

 You only need to solve the problem for 1/4 of the perimeter. After that,
 rotate and mirror

 Here are my thoughts on solving it:

   - find parameteric equations for an arc of the circle in 1st quadrant and
   the edge of the square
      - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_equation
      - for simplicity, I'm assuming a radius of 1
      - circle: x=a*cos(t); y=a*sin(t); in first quadrant, 0tpi/2
      - line with slope -1: *x1=-t+1; y1=t; 0t1*
      - circle with parameter range 0 to 1: *x2=cos(pi*t/2); y2=sin(pi*t/2);
      0t1*
      - assuming material thickness of 1 unit, with the square on the bottom
   at z=0: *z1=0; z2=1*
   - compute n values of x1,y1,x2,y2 between 0 and 1 with a for loop
   - use x2, y2, z2 as X,Y,Z in the gcode
      - use x1, y1, z1, x2, y2, z2 to find values for A, B, and/or C


Thanks!
I am not sure that I understand correctly all the calculations You
offer, but it gave me an idea, that since I am using circle as the
basic shape, I could paste both contours in polar coordinate system
and the difference of radius between both contours on each theta value
would give me the horizontal distance between them. Adding vertical
distance and I get value of the slope with atan function, theta value
gives direction - they both are position commands for A/B and C axis
respectively. Looks pretty simple on paper, but I do not know, how do
I get proper g-code from it.

I will spend some more time with Your formulas, maybe I will manage to
understand them completely. Addressing these calcs with parametric
equation approach seems promising to me.

Viesturs

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread andy pugh
On 12 March 2011 22:30, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 So the problem is finding out the necessary tilt angle, which
 corresponds to the slope of the edge.

I think that it is non-trivial. The problem is deciding which point on
the bottom curve matches which point on the top curve (and
vice-versa). Once you have pairs of points then the mathematics is
relatively simple.

The solution probably involves finding the set of shortest lines from
top to bottom, and then bottom-to-top. You will often find a situation
where a sharp corner at the top matches up with an entire arc below,
and vice-versa, so need to solve in both directions.

I think I would do it in Matlab.

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread dave
Ah, got it. rotate and tilt is almost all it needs. 
Is this for mental exercise or does this part have a purpose?

Dave


On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 18:13 +, Dave Caroline wrote:
 Dave its water jet/plasma so the head has all the rotation and 5 axis needed,
 Viesturs, I cannot see the item as heekscad bombed on the stl file but
 gcode can handle the maths so you can can just do the maths in the
 gcode program.
 
 Also then is another way which you can develop from sheet metal practice
 http://search.sheetmetalworld.com/news/articles/197.cfm
  and develop the paths in gcode break into as many triangles as needed
 for accuracy
 
 Dave Caroline
 
 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:30 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 19:02 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
  2011. gada 13. marts 17:45 Lars Andersson l...@larsandersson.com 
  rakstīja:
   Suggest a search on the keyword lofting, this is similar (maybe) to 
   your
   problem.
 
  Unfortunately majority of results were talking about boat hulls, rest
  of them - how to use lofting function in 3ds max. But I already know,
  how to create such model, problem is to calculate, how that shape on
  the sides is created. It consists of straight lines, connecting top
  and bottom contours, but I do not know, how to determine them, how to
  find a way to calculate each of them.
 
 
  2011/3/13 dave dengv...@charter.net:
   Hi Viesturs,
  
   That must have been a pretty clean iges file as it imported into synergy
   just fine. Much better than some of the Catia stuff I've gotten.
 
  All the compliments go to SW2010, in which I created the model.
 
   Unfortunately, I don't have the slightest how to CAM it in 4 axis or 5
   axis.
   It is rather small so 4 axis should do it.
 
  No, it is 5 axis stuff, because the basic contour is not a straight
  line, it has turns and thus the plane, in which the tool would be
  tilted, also turns.
 
  It it takes 5 axis then I'm missing something because it looks like a
  truncated cone which intersects with a cube. If so, then along the axis
  of rotation it is a pair of straight lines. So you calculate and machine
  one pass then rotate and do another.
 
  Dave
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Draftsight for Linux

2011-03-13 Thread Belli Button
Can this be true??  Hopefully SW is next


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread Mark
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Viesturs Lācis
viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote:



 Thanks!
 I am not sure that I understand correctly all the calculations You
 offer, but it gave me an idea, that since I am using circle as the
 basic shape, I could paste both contours in polar coordinate system
 and the difference of radius between both contours on each theta value
 would give me the horizontal distance between them. Adding vertical
 distance and I get value of the slope with atan function, theta value
 gives direction - they both are position commands for A/B and C axis
 respectively. Looks pretty simple on paper, but I do not know, how do
 I get proper g-code from it.

 I will spend some more time with Your formulas, maybe I will manage to
 understand them completely. Addressing these calcs with parametric
 equation approach seems promising to me.

 Viesturs


(5 axis cut - arc at top, straight line at bottom)
(commented code is for max5kins - note, no A axis)
(tested on 5axis sim)
(assuming table at Z=0)

#10 = 1  (material thickness)
#11 = 2  (radius, and the square's diagonal)

G10 L2 P2 Z[-1*#10]

G55 G00 Z[#10]
(X[#11] Y0 A0 B0)
X[#11] Y0 B0 C0
M3

#1 = 0 (#1 is used as the parameter for the equations)
O101 while [#1 lt 1]
G1 Z[#10] F10
#21=[cos[#1*90]*#11](X)
#22=[sin[#1*90]*#11](Y)
#24=[atan[[[1-#1]*#11]-#21]/[#10]]  (A, for AB)
#25=[atan[[#1*#11]-#22]/[#10]]  (B, for AB)
#26=[#24+#25]   (B, for BC **pretty sure this is not
right - how do we really calculate this?**)
(X[#21] Y[#22] A[#24] B[#25])
X[#21] Y[#22] B[#25] C[#1*90]

#1 = [#1+.01]
O101 endwhile

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM-related question

2011-03-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 March 2011 22:26, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 Honestly - I just would like to produce some range of samples, that
 would demonstrate, what a 5 axis waterjet machine is capable of.

There was a time when I worked somewhere with a 4-axis wire EDM
machine where lots of people had cubes with one of their initials on
the top, and the other on the bottom.

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Re: [Emc-users] Draftsight for Linux

2011-03-13 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:43:15 +0200, you wrote:

Can this be true??  Hopefully SW is next

Uggg - why?

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[Emc-users] DraftSight for linux, free beta

2011-03-13 Thread gene heskett
Hi all;

I just downloaded and installed the mdv rpm on this pclos box, and the rpm 
went it except for the k-menu additions, so I have to run it from a user   
terminal session until I figure out how to edit the kmenu's on pclos.

Has anyone else played with it yet?

I ran it, selected 'new' as it said in the help, then went to the next 
section to try and setup a properly scaled  gridded view port for the next 
project, in this case the 8 sticks it will take to make 2 overlapping at 
the center doors for this cabinet I'm building.  Unforch, nothing in the 
Properties column on the left appears to be editable, so its not possible 
to proceed further using known dimensions for the snap to grid etc etc.

I'm a dummy I guess.  This thing isn't in english as its first language, so 
some of the terms I see in the help file are probably going to need some 
explaining here and there.

I did finally get it to take a filename in the first box, but when I 
continue to adjust other things, the filename disappears and when I get 
frustrated and quit, the project is still called NO_NAME.dwg.

I think I need to start from square one.  But, before I put a lot of effort 
into this, is there such a thing as a .dwg to .ngc converter?

Thanks everybody.

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Re: [Emc-users] Draftsight for Linux

2011-03-13 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Viesturs Lācis wrote:
 Wow, that is great news! I think that first few precedents are the
 hardest part here - we should see even more apps on Linux once the ice
 has started to move.

 Unfortunately I am afraid that SolidWorks licence will not be cheaper
 for Linux users and still will be in +10K range. Please correct me, if
 I am wrong with the numbers here.

 BTW does anybody know, if SolidWorks has a licence for students? And
 what is approximate amount payable for that?

Yes they do. It looks like it's $150 for a 12-month license.


They do mention that the student version is unsuitable for commercial 
use, but I don't know what that means. They say it's fully functional, 
so maybe it watermarks files or something ...

Information is from this page:
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/education/student-software-3d-mcad.htm 
(the pricing is available if you click the buy student edition button)

- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] DraftSight for linux, free beta

2011-03-13 Thread Kyle Kerr
 I think I need to start from square one.  But, before I put a lot of effort
 into this, is there such a thing as a .dwg to .ngc converter?

If you can output dxf files, Inkscape may be able to read it in and
output gcode for you. There is even a page in the linuxcnc wiki that
shows how to get gcode out of Inkscape.

Kyle

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Re: [Emc-users] Single to Three Phase Rotary Converters

2011-03-13 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Kirk Wallace
kwall...@wallacecompany.comwrote:

 Let me try to provide more details on my understanding of the phase
 timing of DIY converters. Attached is a schematic of a common rotary
 converter. The source is here:
 http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/ph-conv/ph-conv.html
 http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/ph-conv/fig1.html

 I used this to make my converter and is the only design I have some
 understanding of. As the schematic shows L1 and L2 go straight to the
 output and are unaffected. Since L1 and L2 are single phase, L1 is a
 mirror of L2, therefore 180 degrees out of 360 apart.


But, but, you are committing a tautology. If you reference L1 to L2 and vice
versa, of course L1 is a mirror of L2. In your scheme there is no 'ground'
or reference point, so you only have one phase coming in, and the motor
generates the second (and third) phase L3, shifted with respect to L1/L2.
One way to see it comes from the trigonometric identity  holding that sum of
three sines shifted by 0, 120 and 240 degrees is zero:
sin(x)+sin(x+2*%pi/3)+sin(x+4*%pi/3)=0

Let's say we take some arbitrary reference point, so that L1(t) is the
voltage on the first leg. Assume L2(t)-L1(t) = V sin(2 pi f t). If the
converter generates L3(t)=L1(t)-V sin(2 pi f t + 2/3 pi), then L1-L3 is V
sin(2 pi f t + 2/3 pi), i.e. shifted by 120 degrees, and L3-L2 is -V sin(2
pi f t + 2/3pi) - V sin(2 pi f t)  which reduces to V sin(x+4*%pi/3) i.e.
the same AC shifted 240 degrees. Note that it doesn't matter what the
reference point is, because its potential L1(t) drops out --- all that
matters are voltage differences between the legs of the circuit, not the
potentials of the legs themselves.
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