Re: [Emc-users] raid NAS

2015-11-13 Thread John Thornton
Got my RAID NAS box up and going and I like that better than anything 
I've tried in the past to share files between all the computers.

JT

On 11/4/2015 5:29 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:
> Been using a Zyxel NAS-320 device with two WD Red hard drives, real hardware 
> RAID, simple to setup, works straight away with Linux, and was inexpensive. 
> Basic box was about $150.00 / $175.00 not including the drives. Been running 
> non stop for at least two years.
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> On Wednesday 04 November 2015 09:10:56 John Thornton wrote:
>
>> I see that from time to time on my LAN which I have two Windoze and 5
>> or 6 Linux computer on it. Usually only a reboot will fix the Windoze
>> computers while the Linux computers IIRC will fix themselves if you
>> power cycle the router or switch they are attached to. I think it is
>> just a software issue but who knows...
>>
>> JT
> It is John. Its evidence you are using dhcp as the hook means.
> Things may have improved over the years since 10-04, but I've only used
> dhcp in the router to get me an ipv4 address for the router, everything
> else is host file based. My /etc/hosts file:
> ===
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 192.168.xx.1 router.coyote.den router
> 192.168.xx.3 coyote.coyote.den coyote
> 192.168.xx.4 shop.coyote.den shop
> 192.168.xx.5 lathe.coyote.den lathe
> 192.168.xx.6 lappy.coyote.den lappy
> 192.168.xx.10 GO704.coyote.den GO704
> 
> Identical on all machines
>
> And my /etc/resolv.conf from any machine
> =
> search this-machines-name
> nameserver 192.168.xx.1
> order host,dns
> =
> This one made immutable with a sudo chattr +i specifically to keep
> network-mangler from mangling it if its still installed.
>
> Then you can configure /etc/network/interfaces to look something like
> this:
> ==
> # list of interfaces to bring up at boot
> auto lo eth0
>
> # interface lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> address 127.0.0.1
> netmask 255.0.0.0
>
> # interface eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.xx.3
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.xx.1
> 
> Where the last number of the eth0 address is that machine.
>
> And if network-mangler is still installed, sudo chattr +i that file too
> to keep it from being re-written by mangler. In wheezy, N-M can be
> removed.
>
> On all the linux machines.
>
> I don't do windows, any flavor, so I can't advise on that. But the last
> time I setup a neighbors windows machine, that is exactly what I did as
> he had a router that could NAT, so I made it so.
>> On 11/4/2015 8:01 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
>>> Maybe not the right place to ask, but, regarding the networking, why
>>> would randomly you not be able to see other network computers? Right
>>> now from either my winxp desktop, or my ubuntu 10.04 desktop, I
>>> can't see any of the other network computers, or my machines.
>>> Connection issues, bad hardware?
> Can you ping them by name?
> Can you get their address from an ifconfig report on each machine, then
> go ping them by address from another machine?
>
> The latter, as long as they are all in the same class D 

Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Rick it is not a huge affair. Just specify in the ini file TYPE= ANGULAR 
for that axis

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Subject: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

>Hello Guys,
>
>Does anyone know in the documentation where to get any info on setting
>up my rotary axis, I can't find any thing in the manuals on how to get
>it connected properly, without doing a bunch of excess programming.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 November 2015 09:38:43 Rick Lair wrote:

> Hello Guys,
>
> Does anyone know in the documentation where to get any info on setting
> up my rotary axis, I can't find any thing in the manuals on how to get
> it connected properly, without doing a bunch of excess programming.

Its an axis Rick, and will need the same hardware as driver for whatever 
motor you have on it. Mine has a stepper motor, and the stanza in 
the .ini file looks like this:

[AXIS_3]
TYPE = ANGULAR
HOME = 0.0
MAX_VELOCITY = 50.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 100.0
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 200.0
SCALE = 320.0
FERROR = 1
MIN_FERROR = .25
MIN_LIMIT = -1
MAX_LIMIT = 1
HOME_OFFSET = 0.0
HOME_SEARCH_VEL=0.0
#HOME_SEQUENCE=3
BACKLASH = 0.056

Driving it with a 2M542 driver, hooked as (from the .hal file)

setpstepgen.3.position-scale [AXIS_3]SCALE
setpstepgen.3.steplen   1
setpstepgen.3.stepspace 0
setpstepgen.3.dirhold   1
setpstepgen.3.dirsetup  1
setpstepgen.3.maxaccel  [AXIS_3]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL
net apos-cmdaxis.3.motor-pos-cmd => stepgen.3.position-cmd
net apos-fb stepgen.3.position-fb => axis.3.motor-pos-fb
net astep <=stepgen.3.step
net adir <= stepgen.3.dir
net aenable axis.3.amp-enable-out => stepgen.3.enable
...
net astep =>parport.0.pin-08-out
setpparport.0.pin-08-out-reset  1
net adir => parport.0.pin-09-out

You'll have to "home" it, even if its not plugged in at the time.

Be sure the cable to the motor is never plugged, or unplugged, without 
first turning off the driver power.  Drivers in general do not tolerate 
that at all well.

With a servo motor, I highly recommend jon's (Pico systems) PWM-Servo 
amplifier, its bulletproof and can handle up to 160 volts dc for the 
motor supply.  I've used it for a spindle motor driver twice now.

It can reverse the 1 hp motor of my G0704 from 2700 rpms fwd to 2700 rpms 
reverse in a small fraction over 1 second elapsed time. G33.1's are done 
before you can think about it for small taps.  Just make sure the chuck  
holding the tap is tightened to about 1 degree from broken, because if 
it slips, the tap is history.

I've been looking for a tap holder that grabs the square on the butt of 
the tap, but those things it seems all have a different, unique size.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 November 2015 10:55:18 Rick Lair wrote:

> I was wondering more about these pins,
>
> 21  bit   IN  FALSE  axis.3.is-unlocked
> 21  bit   OUT FALSE  axis.3.unlock
>
> The servo setup isn't the issue, I already have that stuff in my
> INI/HAL files, I was just wondering about those pins mentioned, if
> they will take care of making sure that the table is un-clamped at the
> right times for just positioning and for contouring. The table is
> hydraulically clamped and unclamped, with feedback limit switches for
> each position, and there is a home position switch.
>
Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine, 
which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to 
exert sufficient force to actually lock it.

> That was going to be my next question, how to handle the homing
> sequence if we are not using the rotary axis. I was going to make up 2
> configurations, one with the rotary, one without.

I just zero mine along with the rest as theres no home switches on my 
toy. 2 more mouse clicks.

> I am going with Automation Direct for the servo and drive,
> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Se
>rvo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_(
>Med_Inertia)/SVA-2300 . Using the servo with no brake.

In that event, I'd tie those signals to control the hydraulics to those 
signals from motion that you quoted.  Hardware details are up to you, 
like how to control the valves that do the lock/unlock of the table.

Thats an open collector signal on pin 21?  Both on the same interface pin 
strongly suggests it is, so that it can be read as an input also.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] raid NAS

2015-11-13 Thread John Thornton
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822122130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236343

JT

On 11/13/2015 7:35 AM, Jim Craig wrote:
> I am glad that you like it. What NAS did you wind up going with?
>
> Jim
>
> On 11/13/2015 6:14 AM, John Thornton wrote:
>> Got my RAID NAS box up and going and I like that better than anything
>> I've tried in the past to share files between all the computers.
>>
>> JT
>>
>> On 11/4/2015 5:29 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:
>>> Been using a Zyxel NAS-320 device with two WD Red hard drives, real 
>>> hardware RAID, simple to setup, works straight away with Linux, and was 
>>> inexpensive. Basic box was about $150.00 / $175.00 not including the 
>>> drives. Been running non stop for at least two years.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
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>>> 4. Re: raid NAS (Jack Coats)
>>> 5. Re: Desktops and OS's (Jim Craig)
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>>> From: Gene Heskett 
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktops and OS's
>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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>>>
>>> On Wednesday 04 November 2015 09:10:56 John Thornton wrote:
>>>
 I see that from time to time on my LAN which I have two Windoze and 5
 or 6 Linux computer on it. Usually only a reboot will fix the Windoze
 computers while the Linux computers IIRC will fix themselves if you
 power cycle the router or switch they are attached to. I think it is
 just a software issue but who knows...

 JT
>>> It is John. Its evidence you are using dhcp as the hook means.
>>> Things may have improved over the years since 10-04, but I've only used
>>> dhcp in the router to get me an ipv4 address for the router, everything
>>> else is host file based. My /etc/hosts file:
>>> ===
>>> 127.0.0.1 localhost
>>> 192.168.xx.1 router.coyote.den router
>>> 192.168.xx.3 coyote.coyote.den coyote
>>> 192.168.xx.4 shop.coyote.den shop
>>> 192.168.xx.5 lathe.coyote.den lathe
>>> 192.168.xx.6 lappy.coyote.den lappy
>>> 192.168.xx.10 GO704.coyote.den GO704
>>> 
>>> Identical on all machines
>>>
>>> And my /etc/resolv.conf from any machine
>>> =
>>> search this-machines-name
>>> nameserver 192.168.xx.1
>>> order host,dns
>>> =
>>> This one made immutable with a sudo chattr +i specifically to keep
>>> network-mangler from mangling it if its still installed.
>>>
>>> Then you can configure /etc/network/interfaces to look something like
>>> this:
>>> ==
>>> # list of interfaces to bring up at boot
>>> auto lo eth0
>>>
>>> # interface lo
>>> iface lo inet loopback
>>> address 127.0.0.1
>>> netmask 255.0.0.0
>>>
>>> # interface eth0
>>> iface eth0 inet static
>>> address 192.168.xx.3
>>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway 192.168.xx.1
>>> 
>>> Where the last number of the eth0 address is that machine.
>>>
>>> And if network-mangler is still installed, sudo chattr +i that file too
>>> to keep it from being re-written by mangler. In wheezy, N-M can be
>>> removed.
>>>
>>> On all the linux machines.
>>>
>>> I don't do windows, any flavor, so I can't advise on that. But the last
>>> time I setup a neighbors windows machine, that is exactly what I did as
>>> he had a router that could NAT, so I made it so.
 On 

Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Rick Lair

I was wondering more about these pins,

21  bit   IN  FALSE  axis.3.is-unlocked
21  bit   OUT FALSE  axis.3.unlock

The servo setup isn't the issue, I already have that stuff in my INI/HAL 
files, I was just wondering about those pins mentioned, if they will 
take care of making sure that the table is un-clamped at the right times 
for just positioning and for contouring. The table is hydraulically 
clamped and unclamped, with feedback limit switches for each position, 
and there is a home position switch.

That was going to be my next question, how to handle the homing sequence 
if we are not using the rotary axis. I was going to make up 2 
configurations, one with the rotary, one without.

I am going with Automation Direct for the servo and drive, 
http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Servo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_(Med_Inertia)/SVA-2300
 
. Using the servo with no brake.

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Petersburg MI, 49270
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Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Rick Lair
To each his own,,,

The servo and drive will be here Tuesday, so it will be busy busy after 
that, we have a job coming in already, that requires the 4th axis.

Always Fun ;)



On 11/13/2015 1:22 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
> Hey Rick!  Your 500 pound 4th axis weighs more than Gene's G0704 milling
> machine!
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2015 12:41 PM, Rick Lair wrote:
>> Here is a twin to our unit that I am fitting up.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudakoma-12-6-inch-RNCM-301R-4th-axis-power-rotary-table-/261732300386
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/2015 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine,
>>> which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to
>>> exert sufficient force to actually lock it.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Bruce Layne
Hey Rick!  Your 500 pound 4th axis weighs more than Gene's G0704 milling 
machine!



On 11/13/2015 12:41 PM, Rick Lair wrote:
> Here is a twin to our unit that I am fitting up.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudakoma-12-6-inch-RNCM-301R-4th-axis-power-rotary-table-/261732300386
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2015 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine, 
>> which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to 
>> exert sufficient force to actually lock it.


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Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Rick Lair
Here is a twin to our unit that I am fitting up.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudakoma-12-6-inch-RNCM-301R-4th-axis-power-rotary-table-/261732300386



On 11/13/2015 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 13 November 2015 10:55:18 Rick Lair wrote:
>
>> I was wondering more about these pins,
>>
>> 21  bit   IN  FALSE  axis.3.is-unlocked
>> 21  bit   OUT FALSE  axis.3.unlock
>>
>> The servo setup isn't the issue, I already have that stuff in my
>> INI/HAL files, I was just wondering about those pins mentioned, if
>> they will take care of making sure that the table is un-clamped at the
>> right times for just positioning and for contouring. The table is
>> hydraulically clamped and unclamped, with feedback limit switches for
>> each position, and there is a home position switch.
>>
> Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine,
> which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to
> exert sufficient force to actually lock it.
>
>> That was going to be my next question, how to handle the homing
>> sequence if we are not using the rotary axis. I was going to make up 2
>> configurations, one with the rotary, one without.
> I just zero mine along with the rest as theres no home switches on my
> toy. 2 more mouse clicks.
>
>> I am going with Automation Direct for the servo and drive,
>> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Se
>> rvo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_(
>> Med_Inertia)/SVA-2300 . Using the servo with no brake.
> In that event, I'd tie those signals to control the hydraulics to those
> signals from motion that you quoted.  Hardware details are up to you,
> like how to control the valves that do the lock/unlock of the table.
>
> Thats an open collector signal on pin 21?  Both on the same interface pin
> strongly suggests it is, so that it can be read as an input also.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

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Re: [Emc-users] 5i25 miss-behaving

2015-11-13 Thread John Prentice (FS)
Greetings

> -Original Message-
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 12 November 2015 22:07
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 5i25 miss-behaving

> On 12 November 2015 at 21:44, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>>> Checking the status in showconfig, it (gpio.003) is an input.  And I 
>>> do not believe I have a separate pullup on the line, that card is 
>>> AFAIK, doing that 3.3 volts.  Any pullups I would have installed 
>>> would have been to the 5 volt rail.

> Are the 5i25 inputs 5V tolerant?

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It all depends! From 5i25 manual

5V I/O TOLERANCE
The FPGA used on the 5I25 has a 4V absolute maximum input voltage
specification. To allow interfacing with 5V inputs, the 5I25 has bus
switches on all I/O pins.
The bus switches work by turning off when the input voltage exceeds a preset
threshold.
The 5V I/O tolerance option is the default and should normally be left
enabled.
For high speed applications where only 3.3V maximum signals are present and
overshoot clamping is desired, the 5V I/O tolerance option can be disabled.
W3 controls
the 5V I/O tolerance option. When W3 is on the default UP position, 5V
tolerance mode
is enabled. When W3 is in the DOWN position, 5V tolerance mode is disabled.
Note that
W3 controls 5V tolerance on both P2 and P3 I/O connectors.
W3 also selects the pull-up resistor voltage, When 5V I/O tolerance mode is
selected, the I/O pull-up resistors are powered from 5V. When 5V I/O
tolerance mode is
disabled, the I/O pull-up resistors are powered with 3.3V.

John Prentice


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[Emc-users] Linux Mint RTAI

2015-11-13 Thread John Thornton
LOL I forgot who sent me the scrip to get RTAI on Linux Mint but it 
worked. I just installed LinuxCNC instead of using a RIP. I even got 
email working on Mint in 1 minute and have never gotten to to work on 
Wheezy.

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Re: [Emc-users] 5i25 miss-behaving

2015-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 November 2015 13:55:11 John Prentice (FS) wrote:

> Greetings
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 12 November 2015 22:07
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 5i25 miss-behaving
> >
> > On 12 November 2015 at 21:44, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> >>> Checking the status in showconfig, it (gpio.003) is an input.  And
> >>> I do not believe I have a separate pullup on the line, that card
> >>> is AFAIK, doing that 3.3 volts.  Any pullups I would have
> >>> installed would have been to the 5 volt rail.
> >
> > Are the 5i25 inputs 5V tolerant?
>
> --
>
> > atp
>
> It all depends! From 5i25 manual
>
> 5V I/O TOLERANCE
> The FPGA used on the 5I25 has a 4V absolute maximum input voltage
> specification. To allow interfacing with 5V inputs, the 5I25 has bus
> switches on all I/O pins.
> The bus switches work by turning off when the input voltage exceeds a
> preset threshold.
> The 5V I/O tolerance option is the default and should normally be left
> enabled.
> For high speed applications where only 3.3V maximum signals are
> present and overshoot clamping is desired, the 5V I/O tolerance option
> can be disabled. W3 controls
> the 5V I/O tolerance option. When W3 is on the default UP position, 5V
> tolerance mode
> is enabled. When W3 is in the DOWN position, 5V tolerance mode is
> disabled. Note that
> W3 controls 5V tolerance on both P2 and P3 I/O connectors.
> W3 also selects the pull-up resistor voltage, When 5V I/O tolerance
> mode is selected, the I/O pull-up resistors are powered from 5V. When
> 5V I/O tolerance mode is
> disabled, the I/O pull-up resistors are powered with 3.3V.
>
> John Prentice
>
And ATM, I have no clue of the state of W3, whatever Peter shipped it in 
I assume.  I'll look between boards later.  Damned wood has only shrunk 
1/16" since I bought it.  But now I have 2 miss-0carved end boards I 
will have to do the matching side boards for before I can correct my 
software.

This Hartland Lumber & Planing mill stuff is half the quality & seasoning  
of what I got from Home Depot for the first chest. But while it was s4s 
1x6, this was s4s 1x12, but pieced together to make the 12, with only 
one side really smooth.  Never again, I'll take my chances and order 
from some online outfit.

On checking, I didn't have a ground on the machine frame but do now, so 
if the card is blown, its my loss.  I honestly thought I did have a 
solid ground, till I put a meter on it & read infinity.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 November 2015 12:41:57 Rick Lair wrote:

> Here is a twin to our unit that I am fitting up.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudakoma-12-6-inch-RNCM-301R-4th-axis-power-r
>otary-table-/261732300386
>
And the cabinet either of my mills is sitting on would be a Prince Albert 
can under that.  I see it does have hoisting hookbolts.

Its also, in well used condition, 22.5 times what I paid for my POJ, a 
decade back.

Looks like fun though.

> On 11/13/2015 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 13 November 2015 10:55:18 Rick Lair wrote:
> >> I was wondering more about these pins,
> >>
> >> 21  bit   IN  FALSE  axis.3.is-unlocked
> >> 21  bit   OUT FALSE  axis.3.unlock
> >>
> >> The servo setup isn't the issue, I already have that stuff in my
> >> INI/HAL files, I was just wondering about those pins mentioned, if
> >> they will take care of making sure that the table is un-clamped at
> >> the right times for just positioning and for contouring. The table
> >> is hydraulically clamped and unclamped, with feedback limit
> >> switches for each position, and there is a home position switch.
> >
> > Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine,
> > which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to
> > exert sufficient force to actually lock it.
> >
> >> That was going to be my next question, how to handle the homing
> >> sequence if we are not using the rotary axis. I was going to make
> >> up 2 configurations, one with the rotary, one without.
> >
> > I just zero mine along with the rest as theres no home switches on
> > my toy. 2 more mouse clicks.
> >
> >> I am going with Automation Direct for the servo and drive,
> >> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control
> >>/Se
> >> rvo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_Syst
> >>em_( Med_Inertia)/SVA-2300 . Using the servo with no brake.
> >
> > In that event, I'd tie those signals to control the hydraulics to
> > those signals from motion that you quoted.  Hardware details are up
> > to you, like how to control the valves that do the lock/unlock of
> > the table.
> >
> > Thats an open collector signal on pin 21?  Both on the same
> > interface pin strongly suggests it is, so that it can be read as an
> > input also.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] Linux Mint RTAI

2015-11-13 Thread Dave Cole
Can you share that ??  :-)

Dave

On 11/13/2015 4:30 PM, John Thornton wrote:
> LOL I forgot who sent me the scrip to get RTAI on Linux Mint but it
> worked. I just installed LinuxCNC instead of using a RIP. I even got
> email working on Mint in 1 minute and have never gotten to to work on
> Wheezy.
>
> Thanks
> JT
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[Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)

2015-11-13 Thread Rick Lair
Hello Guys,

Does anyone know in the documentation where to get any info on setting 
up my rotary axis, I can't find any thing in the manuals on how to get 
it connected properly, without doing a bunch of excess programming.

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Thanks


Rick Lair
Superior Roll & Turning LLC
399 East Center Street
Petersburg MI, 49270
PH: 734-279-1831
FAX: 734-279-1166
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Re: [Emc-users] raid NAS

2015-11-13 Thread Jim Craig
I am glad that you like it. What NAS did you wind up going with?

Jim

On 11/13/2015 6:14 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> Got my RAID NAS box up and going and I like that better than anything
> I've tried in the past to share files between all the computers.
>
> JT
>
> On 11/4/2015 5:29 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Been using a Zyxel NAS-320 device with two WD Red hard drives, real hardware 
>> RAID, simple to setup, works straight away with Linux, and was inexpensive. 
>> Basic box was about $150.00 / $175.00 not including the drives. Been running 
>> non stop for at least two years.
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>> On Wednesday 04 November 2015 09:10:56 John Thornton wrote:
>>
>>> I see that from time to time on my LAN which I have two Windoze and 5
>>> or 6 Linux computer on it. Usually only a reboot will fix the Windoze
>>> computers while the Linux computers IIRC will fix themselves if you
>>> power cycle the router or switch they are attached to. I think it is
>>> just a software issue but who knows...
>>>
>>> JT
>> It is John. Its evidence you are using dhcp as the hook means.
>> Things may have improved over the years since 10-04, but I've only used
>> dhcp in the router to get me an ipv4 address for the router, everything
>> else is host file based. My /etc/hosts file:
>> ===
>> 127.0.0.1 localhost
>> 192.168.xx.1 router.coyote.den router
>> 192.168.xx.3 coyote.coyote.den coyote
>> 192.168.xx.4 shop.coyote.den shop
>> 192.168.xx.5 lathe.coyote.den lathe
>> 192.168.xx.6 lappy.coyote.den lappy
>> 192.168.xx.10 GO704.coyote.den GO704
>> 
>> Identical on all machines
>>
>> And my /etc/resolv.conf from any machine
>> =
>> search this-machines-name
>> nameserver 192.168.xx.1
>> order host,dns
>> =
>> This one made immutable with a sudo chattr +i specifically to keep
>> network-mangler from mangling it if its still installed.
>>
>> Then you can configure /etc/network/interfaces to look something like
>> this:
>> ==
>> # list of interfaces to bring up at boot
>> auto lo eth0
>>
>> # interface lo
>> iface lo inet loopback
>> address 127.0.0.1
>> netmask 255.0.0.0
>>
>> # interface eth0
>> iface eth0 inet static
>> address 192.168.xx.3
>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway 192.168.xx.1
>> 
>> Where the last number of the eth0 address is that machine.
>>
>> And if network-mangler is still installed, sudo chattr +i that file too
>> to keep it from being re-written by mangler. In wheezy, N-M can be
>> removed.
>>
>> On all the linux machines.
>>
>> I don't do windows, any flavor, so I can't advise on that. But the last
>> time I setup a neighbors windows machine, that is exactly what I did as
>> he had a router that could NAT, so I made it so.
>>> On 11/4/2015 8:01 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
 Maybe not the right place to ask, but, regarding the networking, why
 would randomly you not be able to see other network computers? Right
 now from either my winxp desktop, or my ubuntu 10.04 desktop, I
 can't see any of the other network computers, or my