Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest, 2016 ?

[Jon Elson]

On 05/02/2016 08:12 PM, Jim Craig wrote:
> I would like to come to the workshop and I could possibly present. If we
> are coming as a presenter do we register as a student on the webpage?
>
> I see the Best Western Greenfield Inn is close by. Has anybody stayed
> there. Is this a good part of town to stay overnight? I am totally
> unfamiliar with the greater Detroit area.
I stayed at the Country Inn and Suites 24555 Michigan Ave in 
Dearborn, fairly close, and Tech Shop had a special rate 
reserved for attendees.  Not cheap, but better than the 
going rate around there.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Thomas Powderly]

I got mine!
tomp

On 05/03/16 10:37, bari wrote:
> Tom,
>
> We were talking about having one in Thailand late fall/winter as long as
> there are elephants.
>
> -Bari
>


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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[bari]

Tom,

We were talking about having one in Thailand late fall/winter as long as 
there are elephants.

-Bari

On 05/02/2016 09:23 PM, Thomas Powderly wrote:
> Hi Bari,
> I cant come, living in Thailand
> I hope talks & demos will be documented/videoed.
> tomp tjtr33
>
> On 05/03/16 00:27, bari wrote:
>> Anyone else interested in having another this year?
>>
>> Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
>> overlapping interests?
>>
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Thomas Powderly]

Hi Bari,
I cant come, living in Thailand
I hope talks & demos will be documented/videoed.
tomp tjtr33

On 05/03/16 00:27, bari wrote:
> Anyone else interested in having another this year?
>
> Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
> overlapping interests?
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[Dave Cole]

FWIW, this is the authorized Automation Direct distributor in the UK.

http://www.lamonde.com/acatalog/Timer_Switches_Timer_Relays.html

These are interesting also but I have only used a few of them. So far so 
good.
http://www.lamonde.com/acatalog/WEG-Electric-Miniature-Contactors--3-Pole-.html

The costs appear to be slightly higher there than here but not by a lot.

I have also used a bunch of their SSRs and they work fine as well but 
only to control heaters etc.

I order parts from AD in the US and get things in two days with free 
shipping if I buy $50 worth of gear.I have no idea how Lamonde does 
it there.

Dave



On 5/2/2016 9:09 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 3 May 2016 at 02:05, andy pugh  wrote:
>> knows a good place to ask.
> Addendum: Good places would be places where the question gets answered
> with reasoned arguments, not statements that "that is not to code"
> (unless backed up with an explanation about what the code is based
> on).
>
> (Sorry, had a bad time on another forum recently where any suggestion
> of actually experimenting with mains voltage prompted strangely
> vehement vituperation)
>

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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 02 May 2016 19:17:41 andy pugh wrote:

> The PSU on my lathe is something I made myself. On the input side are
> two SSRs, one for power on/off and the other switches-out a soft-start
> resistor.
> There is also s discharge capacitor that is switched in when the main
> input SSR is switched off.
>
> Today things went a bit strange, blowing the breaker and then the
> discharge resistor. This was with the PSU powered up, but not turned
> on.
>
> It turns out that I have an unanticipated failure mode, if both input
> SSRs fail closed-circuit.
>
> I have tested the SSRs on the bench, running a light bulb, and they
> both light the bulb with nothing connected to the control terminals
> (And with the control terminals shorted together).
>
> So, I am wondering if there is a problem running a rectifier input
> with SSRs. I found something in an Omron document suggesting that
> turn-off might be unreliable, but that doesn't seem to be the issue
> here, the relays are now incapable of turning off a (filament) light
> bulb.
>
> Did I get unlucky, or are SSRs a bad choice for this application?

You may have been tapped by the EMP of a nearby lightning strike, Andy.

Considerations about that is why my lashup has a hard metallic switch for 
the final off in the form of a small rocker/thermal breaker in the end 
of the outlet strip that powers my rig.  When thats on, I am doing 
similar to you in that I have 2 40 AMP SSR's, each pumped on by a charge 
pump signal, the first one in series with the switched primary power but 
with a 50 ohm 200 watt R in series, controlled by the 2nd machine on 
button. 5 seconds later, after the 50 ohm 200 watt resistor has had a 
chance to charge up the excessive microfarads, another SSR bypasses the 
resistor, so that charge pump gate also turns the SPPWR button green to 
tell me its safe to fire up the spindle motor.  At powerdown, I unclick 
that second button to put the resistor back into the circuit so an odd 
half cycle power that might occur as the charge pump bucket fades, is at 
least controlled so it doesn't trip the wall breaker going off.

My bleeder is quite a bit higher R than yours, but its only bleeding 3 or 
4 watts full time, so discharge time is several minutes.

It can and has gotten quite noisy here several times in the last 2-3 
days, and I am thinking the hard switch has probably saved me from some 
of those bumps.  Yet that hard switch is no more complex than a small 
rocker button on the 6 socket power strip that runs it all. I think its 
also a slow circuit breaker but if it is, its never tripped on my watch, 
the 30 amp in the service box has beat it every time.  But with this 
setup now, I've reduced the service breaker to a 20 and have had no 
further tripages.

While these SSR's are cheap enough I bought spares, I'd have 2nd thoughts 
about having them exposed to line power on a 24/7 basis.  Could be just 
my paranoia, but...  And IIRC your line voltage is 2x mine. Mine is 
around 127 RMS over on this side of the salt water pond. I also suspect 
yours have been in service a lot longer than mine.

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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[Eric Keller]

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:05 PM, andy pugh  wrote:
> I don't think I have a collapsing field. Downstream of the relay is a
> rectifier and a big capacitor.


I would like to see a good reference on this.  I have some homebuilt
equipment with SSR's switching power supplies and never had any
problem.  With a rectifier and capacitor, inrush might be a problem
(Jon beat me to it).  Seems like if you carefully analyze the
conditions they were experiencing, it may reveal the failure mode.

The governing equation for the capacitor i = c dv/dt suggests that you
can get big currents if the voltage drops precipitously.  It's
possible  that current went through the SSRs.

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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[Dave Cole]

I've had problems with SSRs shorting out in certain applications.
Because of that I limit the use of SSRs to simply switching power to a 
load and that is it.
For instance; they are very useful for driving heaters for time 
proportioned outputs schemes to control heat output.
I also use them when switching heavy DC heavy loads (of course the SSRs 
must be rated for DC to do that).

Other than that, I avoid them and use plain old contactors and relays.  
If a relay is properly sized, and not cycled beyond specifications, they 
will last a very long, and
predictable time.  Avoid the super cheap relays and contactors. I have 
used hundreds of the Automation Direct relays and contactors over the 
last few years and I can only think of one that was bad out of the 
box.   I don't know if you can get Automation Direct products in the UK 
or not?

Dave


On 5/2/2016 9:09 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 3 May 2016 at 02:05, andy pugh  wrote:
>> knows a good place to ask.
> Addendum: Good places would be places where the question gets answered
> with reasoned arguments, not statements that "that is not to code"
> (unless backed up with an explanation about what the code is based
> on).
>
> (Sorry, had a bad time on another forum recently where any suggestion
> of actually experimenting with mains voltage prompted strangely
> vehement vituperation)
>

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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[Jon Elson]

On 05/02/2016 06:17 PM, andy pugh wrote:
>
> Today things went a bit strange, blowing the breaker and then the
> discharge resistor. This was with the PSU powered up, but not turned
> on.
>
> It turns out that I have an unanticipated failure mode, if both input
> SSRs fail closed-circuit.
>
> I have tested the SSRs on the bench, running a light bulb, and they
> both light the bulb with nothing connected to the control terminals
> (And with the control terminals shorted together).
OK, so the SSRs failed shorted.  That is their usual failure 
mechanism.  You should very conservatively derate the SSRs 
in many circumstances, but especially where capacitive 
inrush surge is possible.
> So, I am wondering if there is a problem running a rectifier input
> with SSRs. I found something in an Omron document suggesting that
> turn-off might be unreliable, but that doesn't seem to be the issue
> here, the relays are now incapable of turning off a (filament) light
> bulb.
>
> Did I get unlucky, or are SSRs a bad choice for this application?
>
Do you know what the ACTUAL inrush surge is?  Also, is it 
possible that a momentary power dip caused a surge while the 
SSRs were in the turned-on mode?  Possibly, there was a 
voltage spike while the SSRs were off, and it caused them to 
catastrophically break down.  You might think of getting 
some MOV surge suppressors to put across the input mains.  
Also, maybe get SSRs rated for higher input voltage.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest, 2016 ?

[Jim Craig]

I would like to come to the workshop and I could possibly present. If we 
are coming as a presenter do we register as a student on the webpage?

I see the Best Western Greenfield Inn is close by. Has anybody stayed 
there. Is this a good part of town to stay overnight? I am totally 
unfamiliar with the greater Detroit area.

I am not sure I can make it for Wednesday thru Saturday. I might be able 
to make it for Thursday and Friday.

Jim



On 5/2/2016 6:08 PM, Ron Ginger wrote:
> I would really  like to see more linuxCNC presence at the workshop. So
> far Jon Elson and Bob Luken have agreed to do a session on LinuxCNC, but
> I could make a lot more room for Linux sessions. I have several slots on
> Friday which I want to be 'how I did my system' talks by users. There is
> room in the techShop to have a linux area. There will be a few vendors-
> Tormach included.
>
> We have set Saturday as a free open to the public day to a swap meet and
> the vendor displays.
>
> This is not that big of an event- it is really the continuation of what
> started at Rolands shop in Galesburg IL several years ago where linux
> had a huge presence.
>
> ron ginger
>
>
> On 5/2/2016 2:24 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
>> On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
>>
>> I'd like that very much.
>>
>>
 Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
 overlapping interests?
>> There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit:
>> http://www.thecncworkshop.com/
>>
>> That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is
>> important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused
>> developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.
>>
>>
>> -- Sebastian Kuzminsky
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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[andy pugh]

On 3 May 2016 at 02:05, andy pugh  wrote:
> knows a good place to ask.

Addendum: Good places would be places where the question gets answered
with reasoned arguments, not statements that "that is not to code"
(unless backed up with an explanation about what the code is based
on).

(Sorry, had a bad time on another forum recently where any suggestion
of actually experimenting with mains voltage prompted strangely
vehement vituperation)

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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[andy pugh]

On 3 May 2016 at 01:11, Eric Keller  wrote:
> I can guarantee that an
> undergraduate mechanical engineering student isn't even going to
> suspect that there is going to be an issue.  What I realized is that I
> know how to deal with a collapsing field with a DC relay, but not with
> an AC circuit.

I don't think I have a collapsing field. Downstream of the relay is a
rectifier and a big capacitor.

It is interesting to learn that you had the same problem, I am
wondering if anyone knows what the failure mode is, or knows a good
place to ask.

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Re: [Emc-users] Loading SSD

[Gregg Eshelman]

If you have a Windows box available you can use the free version of AOMEI to 
copy just about any type of partition. Dunno if it can also resize 
non-Microsoft partition types, never tried.
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Re: [Emc-users] SSR Issues

[Eric Keller]

I recently ran into a similar problem in a design class I was
teaching.  As a mechanical engineer, I have to admit that I don't
always think these things through, and I can guarantee that an
undergraduate mechanical engineering student isn't even going to
suspect that there is going to be an issue.  What I realized is that I
know how to deal with a collapsing field with a DC relay, but not with
an AC circuit.  Seems to me that your application would be better off
with cascading a mechanical relay after the SSR. Even then, there is a
missing protection circuit, and I haven't tried to figure out what
that is.

The students blew a SSR that turned a power supply on and off.  We
solved the problem by replacing as needed. Not sure what shorts the
power side of the circuit, there is probably a gate/collector max
voltage violation or something like that.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:17 PM, andy pugh  wrote:
> The PSU on my lathe is something I made myself. On the input side are
> two SSRs, one for power on/off and the other switches-out a soft-start
> resistor.
> There is also s discharge capacitor that is switched in when the main
> input SSR is switched off.
>
> Today things went a bit strange, blowing the breaker and then the
> discharge resistor. This was with the PSU powered up, but not turned
> on.
>
> It turns out that I have an unanticipated failure mode, if both input
> SSRs fail closed-circuit.
>
> I have tested the SSRs on the bench, running a light bulb, and they
> both light the bulb with nothing connected to the control terminals
> (And with the control terminals shorted together).
>
> So, I am wondering if there is a problem running a rectifier input
> with SSRs. I found something in an Omron document suggesting that
> turn-off might be unreliable, but that doesn't seem to be the issue
> here, the relays are now incapable of turning off a (filament) light
> bulb.
>
> Did I get unlucky, or are SSRs a bad choice for this application?
>
> --
> atp
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> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916
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[Emc-users] SSR Issues

[andy pugh]

The PSU on my lathe is something I made myself. On the input side are
two SSRs, one for power on/off and the other switches-out a soft-start
resistor.
There is also s discharge capacitor that is switched in when the main
input SSR is switched off.

Today things went a bit strange, blowing the breaker and then the
discharge resistor. This was with the PSU powered up, but not turned
on.

It turns out that I have an unanticipated failure mode, if both input
SSRs fail closed-circuit.

I have tested the SSRs on the bench, running a light bulb, and they
both light the bulb with nothing connected to the control terminals
(And with the control terminals shorted together).

So, I am wondering if there is a problem running a rectifier input
with SSRs. I found something in an Omron document suggesting that
turn-off might be unreliable, but that doesn't seem to be the issue
here, the relays are now incapable of turning off a (filament) light
bulb.

Did I get unlucky, or are SSRs a bad choice for this application?

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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest, 2016 ?

[Ron Ginger]

I would really  like to see more linuxCNC presence at the workshop. So 
far Jon Elson and Bob Luken have agreed to do a session on LinuxCNC, but 
I could make a lot more room for Linux sessions. I have several slots on 
Friday which I want to be 'how I did my system' talks by users. There is 
room in the techShop to have a linux area. There will be a few vendors- 
Tormach included.

We have set Saturday as a free open to the public day to a swap meet and 
the vendor displays.

This is not that big of an event- it is really the continuation of what 
started at Rolands shop in Galesburg IL several years ago where linux 
had a huge presence.

ron ginger


On 5/2/2016 2:24 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
>
> I'd like that very much.
>
>
>> >Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
>> >overlapping interests?
> There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit:
> http://www.thecncworkshop.com/
>
> That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is
> important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused
> developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.
>
>
> -- Sebastian Kuzminsky


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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ? Continent?

[John Alexander Stewart]

Why don't you guys meet up at the CNC Workshop, in Dearborn Michigan?

It is at the Tech Shop Detroit, which is a very interesting place (as is
the Henry Ford museum, and Greenfield Village, almost adjacent to Tech Shop)

The CNC Workshop could still do with some LinuxCNC discussions/seminars,
and I really don't think I'll be able to make it this year.

Ron Ginger would (I believe) be quite open to having some more LinuxCNC
talks, even if very informal, and we do need to get out there and promote
this incredible bit of software.

Just an idea - John.
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Stuart Stevenson]

Still in Wichita

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:24 PM, John Thornton  wrote:

> Hi Stuart,
>
> Where are you located at now?
>
> JT
>
> On 5/2/2016 1:17 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> > HH
> >
> > If there is no interest or opportunity somewhere else you are all welcome
> > here.
> > I am in a shop of my own now. It may not be as interesting.
> > I am no longer associated with MPM in Wichita, Kansas nor EMI in
> Eminence,
> > Missouri.
> >
> > I think sometime in the next few weeks or sometime early fall would be
> the
> > best time to be here.
> >
> > If we have interest shown we can set a date and let it happen.
> >
> > thanks
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
> >>> Anyone else interested in having another this year?
> >> I'd like that very much.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
> >>> overlapping interests?
> >> There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit:
> >> http://www.thecncworkshop.com/
> >>
> >> That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is
> >> important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused
> >> developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Stuart Stevenson]

I call it
Helix Machine
3434 West Harry
Wichita, Kansas


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Still in Wichita
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:24 PM, John Thornton  wrote:
>
>> Hi Stuart,
>>
>> Where are you located at now?
>>
>> JT
>>
>> On 5/2/2016 1:17 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
>> > HH
>> >
>> > If there is no interest or opportunity somewhere else you are all
>> welcome
>> > here.
>> > I am in a shop of my own now. It may not be as interesting.
>> > I am no longer associated with MPM in Wichita, Kansas nor EMI in
>> Eminence,
>> > Missouri.
>> >
>> > I think sometime in the next few weeks or sometime early fall would be
>> the
>> > best time to be here.
>> >
>> > If we have interest shown we can set a date and let it happen.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > Stuart
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
>> >>> Anyone else interested in having another this year?
>> >> I'd like that very much.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer
>> with
>> >>> overlapping interests?
>> >> There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit:
>> >> http://www.thecncworkshop.com/
>> >>
>> >> That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which
>> is
>> >> important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused
>> >> developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.
>> >>
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[John Thornton]

Hi Stuart,

Where are you located at now?

JT

On 5/2/2016 1:17 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> HH
>
> If there is no interest or opportunity somewhere else you are all welcome
> here.
> I am in a shop of my own now. It may not be as interesting.
> I am no longer associated with MPM in Wichita, Kansas nor EMI in Eminence,
> Missouri.
>
> I think sometime in the next few weeks or sometime early fall would be the
> best time to be here.
>
> If we have interest shown we can set a date and let it happen.
>
> thanks
> Stuart
>
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
> wrote:
>
>> On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
>>> Anyone else interested in having another this year?
>> I'd like that very much.
>>
>>
>>> Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
>>> overlapping interests?
>> There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit:
>> http://www.thecncworkshop.com/
>>
>> That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is
>> important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused
>> developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Stuart Stevenson]

HH

If there is no interest or opportunity somewhere else you are all welcome
here.
I am in a shop of my own now. It may not be as interesting.
I am no longer associated with MPM in Wichita, Kansas nor EMI in Eminence,
Missouri.

I think sometime in the next few weeks or sometime early fall would be the
best time to be here.

If we have interest shown we can set a date and let it happen.

thanks
Stuart


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
wrote:

> On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
> > Anyone else interested in having another this year?
>
> I'd like that very much.
>
>
> > Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
> > overlapping interests?
>
> There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit:
> http://www.thecncworkshop.com/
>
> That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is
> important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused
> developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ? Continent?

[Nicklas Karlsson]

Which continent?

On Mon, 2 May 2016 11:27:28 -0500
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote:
> Anyone else interested in having another this year?

I'd like that very much.


> Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with
> overlapping interests?

There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit: 
http://www.thecncworkshop.com/

That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is 
important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused 
developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx.


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[Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[bari]

Anyone else interested in having another this year?

Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with 
overlapping interests?



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Re: [Emc-users] Install issues

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 05/02/2016 06:03 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
> Perhaps there needs to be an easy to find migration page.  Here is what it
> was..

The "Updating LinuxCNC" page I linked you to has the content you're 
looking for, that's where we put all the upgrade/migration information.

I agree it can be harder than it should be to find the parts of the docs 
you need.  I'm not sure how to lay things out to make it easier. 
(Google does a good job of finding our upgrade docs in this case.)


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Re: [Emc-users] Loading SSD

[alex chiosso]

I use Clonezilla too.
But Clonezilla check if the data stored dimension on the source disk is
lower than the destination capacity disk.
I never pay attention about the disk size.
I cloned a 320GB disk on a 120GB ssd  without any configuration
modification.
Of course you can verify the conformity size before to start the cloning
procedure.
Clonezilla is a good cloning tool and it's free. ;-)

Regards

Alex Chiosso

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> I use clonezilla to clone drives. The only caveat is either both drives
> have to be the same size or you have to use the advanced option and tell
> it to ignore the size of the target drive.
>
> JT
>
> On 5/2/2016 6:58 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
> > Good Morning All,
> >
> > I recently purchased one of these,
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707380 in order
> > to build new systems for the machines, ( to avoid having another PC half
> > torn down on my table to quickly insert and remove the hard drives) and
> > work with other HDD and SSD's lying around, my question is, what is the
> > best way to create a new system on a blank SSD using a device like this?
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Loading SSD

[andy pugh]

On 2 May 2016 at 12:58, Rick Lair  wrote:
> , what is the
> best way to create a new system on a blank SSD using a device like this?

What I would do is take a known-good SSD and use that to create a disk
image file on the HD of the PC that the adaptor is connected to.
You can then copy that image to the new SSD when required.

The tool to do this (both ways) is probably dd. If you look at the
instructions for creating a USB stick for a normal LinuxCNC install
the process will be pretty much the same, except that the initial
phase will be reversed, to copy a drive to a file.

There are alternatives, some discussed (for example) here:
http://lifehacker.com/5891933/the-best-disk-cloning-app-for-linux

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Re: [Emc-users] Loading SSD

[John Thornton]

I use clonezilla to clone drives. The only caveat is either both drives 
have to be the same size or you have to use the advanced option and tell 
it to ignore the size of the target drive.

JT

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> Good Morning All,
>
> I recently purchased one of these,
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707380 in order
> to build new systems for the machines, ( to avoid having another PC half
> torn down on my table to quickly insert and remove the hard drives) and
> work with other HDD and SSD's lying around, my question is, what is the
> best way to create a new system on a blank SSD using a device like this?
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Install issues

[Erik Friesen]

Perhaps there needs to be an easy to find migration page.  Here is what it
was..

(Hardware = 5i25 and 7i76)

loadrt probe_parport isn't necessary, and won't load anyway, for whatever
reason

watchdog petting isn't needed anymore per google search.

Also, it is found in ~/linuxcnc, which isn't created until you select one
from the list.


The real reason for the livecd update was, I sold my router to someone
else, and didn't want my individualized dev setup, wanted a fresh install.



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> On 2 May 2016 at 03:12, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:
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> it?
>
> Is there anything there that is still true? I didn't see anything...
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[Emc-users] Loading SSD

[Rick Lair]

Good Morning All,

I recently purchased one of these,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707380 in order
to build new systems for the machines, ( to avoid having another PC half
torn down on my table to quickly insert and remove the hard drives) and
work with other HDD and SSD's lying around, my question is, what is the
best way to create a new system on a blank SSD using a device like this?


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Re: [Emc-users] Install issues

[andy pugh]

On 2 May 2016 at 03:12, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:
> Does anyone want to try to salvage any of that wiki page before i remove it?

Is there anything there that is still true? I didn't see anything...

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[Emc-users] [XHC_HB04_CONFIG] doesn't work

[Danny Miller]

I realized at least part of the [XHC_HB04_CONFIG] section just isn't 
having an effect.  I can't figure out why.
I noticed before that "sequence =2" (before it was commented out) had no 
effect at all.  I saw I could specify "-s 3" on the loadusr line so it 
didn't matter.

I did end up with the handwheel going CW, which increases X and Y, 
actually decreases Z.  That's not right.  I figure that "scales" can fix 
that by making the third number -1.  That should work, right?

It's not having any effect. And unlike sequence, there's no loadusr line 
option for scale.

Any idea why this isn't having any effect?

Danny

[XHC_HB04_CONFIG]
threadname = servo-thread
#(optional, default: servo-thread)
layout = 2
# (optional, 1: 16 buttons | 2: 18 buttons, default: 2)
coords = x y z
#(optional, 4 max, default: x y z a)
coefs  = 1 1 1 1
# (optional, filter coefs 0 < coef < 1, default: 1 1 1 1)
#mpg_accels = 1 2 2 200
mpg_accels = 1 2 100
# (optional: reduced accelerations for all manual mode jogging)
   #(in machine_units/sec/sec like 
[AXIS_n]MAX_ACCELERATION)
#   (this option requires: [APPLICATIONS]APP = 
xhc-hb04-accels)
scales = 1 1 1
#  (optional, plus/minus factors, default: 1 1 1 1)
require_pendant = no
#(optional, yes | no, default: yes)
inch_or_mm = in
#  (optional, in | mm for display icon, default: mm)
jogmode= normal
#  (optional, normal | vnormal | plus-minus, default: normal)
#sequence=2
#  (optional, 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5, default: 1)
#   1: 0.001,0.010,0.100,1.000 (typ for mm machine)
#   2: 0.001,0.005,0.010,0.020 (typ for inch 
machine)
#   3: 0.001,0.010,0.100
#   4: 0.001,0.005,0.010,0.020,0.050,0.100
#   5: 0.001,0.010,0.050,0.100,1.000




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