Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Stuart Stevenson]

Gentlemen,
  I just put together an e350n with 4GB ram and 120GB SSD. The only bios
play I did was to try to boot with a USB HDD. No joy there so I used a sata
dvd to install.
  The all day servo thread latency settles around 9600 (an overnight run
was 12000 in the morning). The all day base thread settles around 8700.
This is with glxgears running and surfing the internet.
  Just information for your use.
thanks
Stuart


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine:
>
> > Gene
> > What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the
> > insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it
> > over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like.
>
> I've done that too, but getting it to stay in position long enough for
> superglue to set can be a problem.  The ready made nylon stuff is better,
> but usually formed for 16 gauge metal, not this razor sharp 28 gauge they
> use for backplates these days.  Even running it out through a card slot, I
> usually try to put an extra wrap of scotch 88 tape on the edges.  Paranoia
> I guess.
>
> Thanks.
>
> > On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:
> > >> Gene,
> > >> The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to
> > >> do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the
> > >> supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
> > >> You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card
> > >> or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.
> > >
> > > Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from
> > > a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane
> > > were too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an
> > > edge breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here
> > > in the middle of WV.  :)
> > >
> > >> On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
> >  The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the
> >  board and needs a ribbon cable extension.
> > >>>
> > >>> Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
> > >>> CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds
> > >>> cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx
> > >>> box.
> > >>>
> >  I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
> >  parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
> >  One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".
> > 
> >  Rudy
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

> Gene
> What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the
> insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it
> over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like.

I've done that too, but getting it to stay in position long enough for 
superglue to set can be a problem.  The ready made nylon stuff is better, 
but usually formed for 16 gauge metal, not this razor sharp 28 gauge they 
use for backplates these days.  Even running it out through a card slot, I 
usually try to put an extra wrap of scotch 88 tape on the edges.  Paranoia 
I guess.

Thanks.

> On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:
> >> Gene,
> >> The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to
> >> do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the
> >> supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
> >> You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card
> >> or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.
> > 
> > Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from
> > a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane
> > were too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an
> > edge breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here
> > in the middle of WV.  :)
> > 
> >> On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
>  The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the
>  board and needs a ribbon cable extension.
> >>> 
> >>> Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
> >>> CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds
> >>> cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx
> >>> box.
> >>> 
>  I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
>  parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
>  One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".
>  
>  Rudy
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene


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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Marius Liebenberg]

Gene
What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the 
insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it 
over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like.

On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:
>
>> Gene,
>> The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do
>> that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier
>> and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
>> You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or
>> pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.
> Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a
> triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were
> too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an edge
> breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here in the
> middle of WV.  :)
>   
>> On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
 The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board
 and needs a ribbon cable extension.
>>> Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
>>> CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool
>>> if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
>>>
 I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
 parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
 One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".

 Rudy
> Cheers, Gene

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

> Gene,
> The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do
> that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier
> and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
> You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or
> pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.

Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a 
triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were 
too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an edge 
breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here in the 
middle of WV.  :)
 
> On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
> >> The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board
> >> and needs a ribbon cable extension.
> > 
> > Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
> > CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool
> > if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
> > 
> >> I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
> >> parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
> >> One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".
> >> 
> >> Rudy

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:10:37 andy pugh did opine:

> On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
> > CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?
> 
> Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa
> 7i43.

Kewl.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Marius Liebenberg]

Gene,
The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do 
that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier 
and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or 
pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.

On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
>
>> The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and
>> needs a ribbon cable extension.
> Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC
> model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool if you can
> get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
>> I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports:
>> one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
>> One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".
>>
>> Rudy
>>
>>
>> 
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>> advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs
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> Cheers, Gene

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Viesturs Lācis]

2013/4/10 andy pugh 

> On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
> > Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
> CNC4PC
> > model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?
>
> Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43.


And keep all that cable inside the control box... That is why I prefer
having such a header right on motherboard, just like D510MO board had. I
have difficulties figuring out, how to get that cable back inside in a nice
and good-looking way.

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[andy pugh]

On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC
> model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?

Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43.

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:

> The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and
> needs a ribbon cable extension.

Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC 
model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool if you can 
get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
> 
> I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports:
> one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
> One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".
> 
> Rudy
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

[Rudy du Preez]

The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and
needs a ribbon cable extension.

I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one
in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
One is configured as "out" and the other as "in".

Rudy


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