Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [E-Devel]What is eet for?
Hi, all: On EFL website I know that eet is a file format that produced by edje_cc from edc file. But now when I run ejde_cc on .edc file, It produces a .edj file. So I am wondering why there is eet? What is it for? Thank you. -- Best Regards -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: barbieri trunk/e/data/themes
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 07:42 -0700, Enlightenment SVN wrote:
Log:
unbreak drag of windows in pager.
This commit breaks wheel scrolling on the pager, since it receives two
wheel events, instead of one.
Author: barbieri
Date: 2009-05-12 07:42:51 -0700 (Tue, 12 May 2009)
New Revision: 40600
Modified:
trunk/e/data/themes/default.edc
Modified: trunk/e/data/themes/default.edc
===
--- trunk/e/data/themes/default.edc 2009-05-12 12:14:22 UTC (rev 40599)
+++ trunk/e/data/themes/default.edc 2009-05-12 14:42:51 UTC (rev 40600)
@@ -7525,6 +7525,7 @@
part { name: over3;
type: RECT;
mouse_events: 1;
+ repeat_events: 1;
description { state: default 0.0;
visible: 1;
color: 255 255 255 0;
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Re: [E-devel] [E-Devel]What is eet for?
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Jianchun Zhou wrote: Hi, all: On EFL website I know that eet is a file format that produced by edje_cc from edc file. But now when I run ejde_cc on .edc file, It produces a .edj file. So I am wondering why there is eet? What is it for? edje_cc just changes the extension of the file. A .edj file is actually an eet file. Vincent -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:08 AM, P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Hi, I am a regular (daily) user of notification module. I use it on the shelf. There is one thing which has always bothered me,- that is the fact that the notification module does not seem to respect the urgency level. I have just now tried the following with a clean and new config with only notification module enabled in addition to the default enabled modules. [...] I noticed that too and plan to fix it and maybe change title color or mark popups with their level somehow (ideas btw?). Anyway, you described good test cases that I'll consider while doing the work. With all the negative comments above, I must say one positive comment: the rest of the module works absolutely fine. I have configured it heavily in my original .e config, tweaking *all* the checkboxes/sliders I could find. :D Since you are trying to clean up the module, I thought it would be a good time to bring up this bug :D sure. I'll rework this and some ui bits of popup at least. since you're the sole user of box feature, do you really want to keep it or may I drop that, at least for now? Then someone else can try to work on it (if done properly, it's like viktor's drawer, but with different content). -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. I like the notification system, it is quite useful in some apps, so it's great that E's implementation will be further improved. Qt unfortunately has a own internal system for showing similar popups, but hopefully that will change. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. I tried the gadget some time ago and didn't find it useful at all. However, I could imagine a gadget that stores notifications to make it available as history in list form. Would imho be a better use for a gadget (could also be possible to disable notify-popups so they go directly in the history and can be viewed later). Also this allows it to have a fixed space in a shelf where it is visible as a single gadget whether or not there are any notifications. So I'd say: drop it and maybe create a useful replacement. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm doing a little test to see how a Twitter account could be integrated into our community. The account is here: http://www.twitter.com/edevel For it now contains tweets about significative changelogs or mails, but obviously can contains all of interesting things about E. Being a test, it isn't not ufficially publicized (just an entry in the Facebook's fan page), but imho looks good. The email registered for this account is mine, but this can be changed easily; same thing for password. What do you think about? Why waste time and ressources for such a useless service that doesn't have any advantage over anything else, instead of maintaining a official information source on e.org with 1) no 140 char limit 2) more professionalism 3) a more official character 4) a proper standard to get the news (RSS) 5) far better usability. I really can't understand why every new hype has to be adopted while the official sources are hardly maintained at all. If you think the news section on e.org should only contain big and important news there would also be the possibility to have a source for minor informations (e.g. blog style on blog.enlightenment.org or whatever). Or maybe better: have 2 sections on the e.org overview site, let's say news for everything new (even minor things) and announcements for all the big stuff (e.g. e17 release!!11 :). -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
2009/5/13 Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm doing a little test to see how a Twitter account could be integrated into our community. The account is here: http://www.twitter.com/edevel For it now contains tweets about significative changelogs or mails, but obviously can contains all of interesting things about E. Being a test, it isn't not ufficially publicized (just an entry in the Facebook's fan page), but imho looks good. The email registered for this account is mine, but this can be changed easily; same thing for password. What do you think about? Why waste time and ressources for such a useless service that doesn't have any advantage over anything else, instead of maintaining a official information source on e.org with 1) no 140 char limit 2) more professionalism 3) a more official character 4) a proper standard to get the news (RSS) 5) far better usability. I really can't understand why every new hype has to be adopted while the official sources are hardly maintained at all. 1. A 140 character news feed hardly takes any management. 2. Most professionals and popular people have a twitter. (I dont though.) 3. Would you rather us (dev community) take control of it or some random person? 4. Indeed. RSS is great. Twitter is a much more social way or sharing news though. No need to put all our eggs in 1 basket. Its hard to call though, I dont know anyone with twitter in Perth AU. We're all a little slow on the tech fads. But I know its really popular elsewhere. As such, I think its a great way for people to get updates on E and to show their support. -Toma. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:38:30 +0200 Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net wrote: Why waste time and ressources for such a useless service that doesn't have any advantage over anything else, instead of maintaining a official information source on e.org with 1) no 140 char limit 2) more professionalism 3) a more official character 4) a proper standard to get the news (RSS) 5) far better usability. I really can't understand why every new hype has to be adopted while the official sources are hardly maintained at all. If you think the news section on e.org should only contain big and important news there would also be the possibility to have a source for minor informations (e.g. blog style on blog.enlightenment.org or whatever). Or maybe better: have 2 sections on the e.org overview site, let's say news for everything new (even minor things) and announcements for all the big stuff (e.g. e17 release!!11 :). First, thank you for comment. I disagree with you about useless and less professionalism: it is a very fast and easy way to communicate, and fits good for all, professional or not; it is a tool, is what you put in that makes it personal or professional. I know that 140 characters is really a little space, this requires to you to change your way to communicate something, but this is not a limit, this improve yourself. About, a blog for E, i'm a little tired about this topic: too many times heard about, but none for now. To be clear, I'm not agry about this, i know that maintains a blog requires a lot of time, and most people works for E in our spare time; just a little sad. E on Twitter is not here to replace our ways to communicate (IRC, ml's), it is just another way to communicate and expand the community, like our fan page in Facebook. Anyway, this is a test, although seems interesting for ten people that started following this account. I'm very happy to waste my time in this way :) Thanks Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFKCs2KleGEL56NNP4RAlJdAKCXq1Wd1/nSeW79X9yvDR7cAqKXzgCgj84y wkamZ7stX0A2OqnWVQSWXXk= =o7q3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [E-Devel]What is eet for?
On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr said: On Wed, 13 May 2009, Jianchun Zhou wrote: Hi, all: On EFL website I know that eet is a file format that produced by edje_cc from edc file. But now when I run ejde_cc on .edc file, It produces a .edj file. So I am wondering why there is eet? What is it for? edje_cc just changes the extension of the file. A .edj file is actually an eet file. and eet is the backed of all e's config files and more... -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:04:15 +0800 Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: 1. A 140 character news feed hardly takes any management. 2. Most professionals and popular people have a twitter. (I dont though.) 3. Would you rather us (dev community) take control of it or some random person? 4. Indeed. RSS is great. Twitter is a much more social way or sharing news though. No need to put all our eggs in 1 basket. Its hard to call though, I dont know anyone with twitter in Perth AU. We're all a little slow on the tech fads. But I know its really popular elsewhere. As such, I think its a great way for people to get updates on E and to show their support. -Toma. Thumbs up :) Thanks for your reply Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFKCs5KleGEL56NNP4RAnO8AKCpz9PI04cRiMgLhGtm1VQhji7KcwCgpgmp HfwLkcZ3Rrbhd7nMNCzyIok= =e8PQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br. Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br. Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw. we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps whenever possible. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:14:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br. Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw. we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps whenever possible. textbloc expect markup. not plain txext. the notification module should convert from plain to markup. it's simply using the api wrongly. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: sure. I'll rework this and some ui bits of popup at least. since you're the sole user of box feature, do you really want to keep it or may I drop that, at least for now? Then someone else can try to work on it (if done properly, it's like viktor's drawer, but with different content). If by box you mean the area which stores the icons, then you may remove it if you don't have time to maintain it. I used it because I could think up a use case for it (notifying me of mail by watching alpine's status ;) ). -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:14:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey all, notification module is useful, I like it and will move to e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to revamp it so I need input from other users of it. for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) window if composite manager is in use. if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br. Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw. we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps whenever possible. textbloc expect markup. not plain txext. the notification module should convert from plain to markup. it's simply using the api wrongly. i know, but I wonder if the notification spec allows you to send \n as well... if it does, I can do that, if not I'll not fix broken programs in e -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] notification module: how do you use it?
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:24:00PM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Your message spurned me to try it out! I just played around with it, and at first blush, the gadget version seems much better to me - the shelf version leaves empty space on my shelf which is kind of unsightly. But being half the code, I could always create new transparent shelves. Always trade-offs. :) -- Ross Vandegrift r...@kallisti.us If the fight gets hot, the songs get hotter. If the going gets tough, the songs get tougher. --Woody Guthrie -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [epdf] esmart_pdf and ewl_pdf are causing segmentation faults
Hi Vincent 'caro' Torri, A couple of weeks ago I had added a ticket to the tracker of enlightenment. (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/307) Could you have a look at it, as it solved the segmentation faults that I was having with test_ewl_pdf and test_esmart_pdf. It also solves the segmentation fault of eyesight when it load a pdf file. This is mainly because eyesight uses the esmart functionality in its plug-in. The segmentation fault is because new GlobalParams() moved to epdf_init, which is not called from any function within esmart_pdf, ewl_pdf. Kind regards, Mark-Willem Rawnar Jansen _ Gratis emoticons voor in je Messenger! http://www.msnmessengerexperience.nl/chuck/ -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [epdf] esmart_pdf and ewl_pdf are causing segmentation faults
Hey, A couple of weeks ago I had added a ticket to the tracker of enlightenment. (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/307) Could you have a look at it, as it solved the segmentation faults that I was having with test_ewl_pdf and test_esmart_pdf. It also solves the segmentation fault of eyesight when it load a pdf file. This is mainly because eyesight uses the esmart functionality in its plug-in. The segmentation fault is because new GlobalParams() moved to epdf_init, which is not called from any function within esmart_pdf, ewl_pdf. The problem is that i don't know the best way to do that. Calling epdf_init() in the init of the object (ewl or esmart) is maybe not the best way. I asked a ewl maintainer and does not really know. I have asked raster for the smart object and i am waiting for his answer regards Vincent -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [epdf] esmart_pdf and ewl_pdf are causing segmentation faults
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: Hey, A couple of weeks ago I had added a ticket to the tracker of enlightenment. (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/307) Could you have a look at it, as it solved the segmentation faults that I was having with test_ewl_pdf and test_esmart_pdf. It also solves the segmentation fault of eyesight when it load a pdf file. This is mainly because eyesight uses the esmart functionality in its plug-in. The segmentation fault is because new GlobalParams() moved to epdf_init, which is not called from any function within esmart_pdf, ewl_pdf. The problem is that i don't know the best way to do that. Calling epdf_init() in the init of the object (ewl or esmart) is maybe not the best way. I asked a ewl maintainer and does not really know. I have asked raster for the smart object and i am waiting for his answer regards Vincent Doing this inside the object init call seems reasonable to me. You don't really have any other guaranteed hook points in an external widget class. Nathan -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
On Wednesday, 13 May 2009, at 13:38:30 (+0200), Thomas Gst?dtner wrote: Why waste time and ressources for such a useless service that doesn't have any advantage over anything else, instead of maintaining a official information source on e.org with 1) no 140 char limit 2) more professionalism 3) a more official character 4) a proper standard to get the news (RSS) 5) far better usability. I really can't understand why every new hype has to be adopted while the official sources are hardly maintained at all. 1. The 140-character limit is fairly soft, and it keeps things to digestible chunks with links to the details. 2. If you think there is a lack of professionals on Twitter, you clearly haven't used it. 3. It would be as official as we made it. 4. Twitter also has an RSS feed. Your point? 5. Twitter can be updated via SMS, countless phone-based applications, the web, and (IIRC) e-mail. How, exactly, is that less usable than the E web site? Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ m...@kainx.org Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- It doesn't take a lot of strength to hang on. It takes a lot of strength to let go. -- Rep. JC Watts, Jr. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
Regardless of the method, I think there should be two enlightenment information streams: one for users and one for developers. Yes there are mailing lists, but the lists have a lot of garbage you need to dig through to get at the interesting bits. The value of a blog or twitter is that it's a distilled information form that keeps you up-to-date with the major trends. For example: Users would be interested in: Significant application theme updates, new *useable* applications themes, major news from the developers Developers are interested in: Development shifts, Programming articles, Experimental projects, Research articles, etc. Most developers will be following the user stream, so there's no reason to duplicate the information in their stream. Each item is essentially going to be an article. These articles need to reside somewhere, either a blog, the wiki, or a custom news app. The enlightenment site has a news feed, but it's fairly simplistic. It would be nice to have something that can separate the streams (announcements, users, developers) and tag articles. The wiki could potentially be used, but wiki's are not particularly good at storing transient articles nor tagging them. These articles are useful for a year maybe, but in time they become obsolete. A blog system really makes the most sense to me. Once you have a blog application, I don't see the need for Twitter. Essentially, each tweet is like the RSS summary to an article that you're going to link to in the tweet. Just following the RSS feed of the blog has the same effect. The only benefit I see to twitter is in knowing how many followers you have. But you could just use web analytics software on your blog application if you're really interested in this. As far as the Twitter pros. Articles will always need a short effective summary, this is usually less than 140 characters anyway, not because the author was limited to some arbitrary number of characters, but because the purpose of the summary is to be a short sentence that tells readers what is in the article. Looking at edevel on Twitter, there is a lack of professionalism. There are too many tweets that I'm not interested in and many tweets seem more conversational than informative. Although greater accessibility is generally a good thing, being able to update the articles from a mobile phone will probably lead to lower quality journalism than you would otherwise have. Last I want to compare some information feeds. Here's the current edevel twitter feed and a few other project feeds I follow: http://twitter.com/edevel http://blog.songbirdnest.com/ http://blogs.atlassian.com/news/ http://dojotoolkit.org/taxonomy/term/29/0 Notice that the twitter feed more resembles mailing lists than a good source of news and articles. You'll notice that the songbird site has a twitter feed on the right side, which also seems more like a conversation between people than a source of news articles. Maybe the difference is just in the granularity of detail. At the most verbose level you have IRC and the mailing lists. Some people follow these sources and highlight things on twitter. Other people will follow any of the three sources and then write higher quality articles on the blog or create wiki pages summarizing changes. Other articles will come from developers who want to summarize and publish their work. So I'll just conclude by saying that for me and other users/developers who want to follow the big events in the enlightenment world Twitter doesn't seem to be the right tool. It shares the problems IRC and the mailing lists have of having too much information flyby. I would prefer to follow a source that has a few high quality articles and news updates a week. Not something like twitter with 10 tweets a day. I don't think there's anything wrong with using Twitter as an additional communication tool. I just think that what you really want is a better blog with more authors. If no one has the energy/time to compare blog application tools and install one on the website I would be interested in doing so. Just tell me if you want me to look into it. -Arlo Michael Jennings wrote: On Wednesday, 13 May 2009, at 13:38:30 (+0200), Thomas Gst?dtner wrote: Why waste time and ressources for such a useless service that doesn't have any advantage over anything else, instead of maintaining a official information source on e.org with 1) no 140 char limit 2) more professionalism 3) a more official character 4) a proper standard to get the news (RSS) 5) far better usability. I really can't understand why every new hype has to be adopted while the official sources are hardly maintained at all. 1. The 140-character limit is fairly soft, and it keeps things to digestible chunks with links to the details. 2. If you think there is a lack of professionals on Twitter, you clearly haven't used it. 3. It
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
2009/5/14 Arlo White arlo.wh...@gmail.com: Yes there are mailing lists, but the lists have a lot of garbage you need to dig through to get at the interesting bits. Garbage like this entire thread? Isn't this a development mailing list? -Graham -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
2009/5/14 Graham Gower graham.go...@gmail.com: 2009/5/14 Arlo White arlo.wh...@gmail.com: Yes there are mailing lists, but the lists have a lot of garbage you need to dig through to get at the interesting bits. Garbage like this entire thread? Isn't this a development mailing list? -Graham Promotion is part of development. -Toma. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [epdf] esmart_pdf and ewl_pdf are causing segmentation faults
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: Hey, A couple of weeks ago I had added a ticket to the tracker of enlightenment. (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/307) Could you have a look at it, as it solved the segmentation faults that I was having with test_ewl_pdf and test_esmart_pdf. It also solves the segmentation fault of eyesight when it load a pdf file. This is mainly because eyesight uses the esmart functionality in its plug-in. The segmentation fault is because new GlobalParams() moved to epdf_init, which is not called from any function within esmart_pdf, ewl_pdf. The problem is that i don't know the best way to do that. Calling epdf_init() in the init of the object (ewl or esmart) is maybe not the best way. I asked a ewl maintainer and does not really know. I have asked raster for the smart object and i am waiting for his answer regards Vincent Doing this inside the object init call seems reasonable to me. You don't really have any other guaranteed hook points in an external widget class. ok, i have done that. In svn thanks Vincent -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
Garbage probably wasn't the best word because of the negative connotation. What I mean is a lot of threads on the mailing list rapidly lose value. A thread about a bug that is later fixed is no longer interesting to most people. This thread will have little value once a decision is made. I didn't mean that these discussions have no value, just that they aren't useful as a history of major events. It's too much work for someone interested in enlightenment to dig through the mailing list archives in order to learn what's currently going on. This is a task the wiki or a blog should solve. -Arlo On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/14 Graham Gower graham.go...@gmail.com: 2009/5/14 Arlo White arlo.wh...@gmail.com: Yes there are mailing lists, but the lists have a lot of garbage you need to dig through to get at the interesting bits. Garbage like this entire thread? Isn't this a development mailing list? -Graham Promotion is part of development. -Toma. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
2009/5/13 Arlo White arlo.wh...@gmail.com: Regardless of the method, I think there should be two enlightenment ...snip... obsolete. A blog system really makes the most sense to me. I agree with you, but I know that most of potentially authors don't have free time for writing articles Once you have a blog application, I don't see the need for Twitter. Essentially, each tweet is like the RSS summary to an article that you're going to link to in the tweet. Just following the RSS feed of the blog has the same effect. The only benefit I see to twitter is in knowing how many followers you have. But you could just use web analytics software on your blog application if you're really interested in this. Disagree. Tweets can't be assumed as RSS feeds, imho. Looks similar, but they are not the same thing; the flow of information is bidirectional for Twitter, and mono for a RSS feed. Both can coexist. And I not started this account to see how many people is following me: i'm doing that because i think it is a useful tool. It is clear that I see the number of follower increasing time by time i'm very happy, because it means that i'm doing something of interesting. in the article. Looking at edevel on Twitter, there is a lack of professionalism. There are too many tweets that I'm not interested in and many tweets seem more conversational than informative. Although greater This is important for me. Can you show me an example of a Twitter account that looks professional for you. Reading the stream, it is clear that i'm posting SVN commits, sometimes not just a simple cutpaste, and, if i find something of interesting, a thread in mailing lists. Last I want to compare some information feeds. Here's the current edevel ...snip... something like twitter with 10 tweets a day. I don't think there's anything wrong with using Twitter as an additional communication tool. I just think that what you really want is a better blog with more authors. If no one has the energy/time to compare blog application tools and install one on the website I would be interested in doing so. Just tell me if you want me to look into it. Agree, again. And imho the real problem is not the leak of blog tool, but the leak of blog author(s). Massimiliano -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
(not answering to anyone in particular) Planet E should be the enlightenment blog. Currently it is usless because is filled with non-enlightenment news but I plan to fix that with some filters after finishing the website design, it should be simple enough. For users, eXchange has a RSS feed for new (or updated) themes and applications, there is no need for apps to be finished -in fact, most arent- so its the perfect place to announce and distribute beta EFL applications and receive feedback. This RSS capability should be displayed more prominently in the site. Other than tat, the more channels of comunication open to the outside world the better. We don't know what the preferences of our users -or would be users- are. Its not like there is an obligation to keep it open if it becomes a burden to mantain. If there is a image concern for professionalism simply label them unnoficial and be done with it, users will suscribe anyway. On Wednesday 13 May 2009 20:20:13 Arlo White wrote: Garbage probably wasn't the best word because of the negative connotation. What I mean is a lot of threads on the mailing list rapidly lose value. A thread about a bug that is later fixed is no longer interesting to most people. This thread will have little value once a decision is made. I didn't mean that these discussions have no value, just that they aren't useful as a history of major events. It's too much work for someone interested in enlightenment to dig through the mailing list archives in order to learn what's currently going on. This is a task the wiki or a blog should solve. -Arlo On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/14 Graham Gower graham.go...@gmail.com: 2009/5/14 Arlo White arlo.wh...@gmail.com: Yes there are mailing lists, but the lists have a lot of garbage you need to dig through to get at the interesting bits. Garbage like this entire thread? Isn't this a development mailing list? -Graham Promotion is part of development. -Toma. - - The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- --- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 in Twitter...
my 2 cents on this: I'd not use it as i'm not twitter guy myself, but I see value in Massimiliano's work and since he is not stopping any development work on his front, it's just bonus... if raster stops hacking and starts twittering then I'd find out a FUCKING HUGE STICK and beat him to death :-) Go massimilano, go! On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm doing a little test to see how a Twitter account could be integrated into our community. The account is here: http://www.twitter.com/edevel For it now contains tweets about significative changelogs or mails, but obviously can contains all of interesting things about E. Being a test, it isn't not ufficially publicized (just an entry in the Facebook's fan page), but imho looks good. The email registered for this account is mine, but this can be changed easily; same thing for password. What do you think about? Ciao Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFKCZYnleGEL56NNP4RAqrOAKDOdkcfTqrOgA4gyrKvRT+AmP/vDQCfSdiV 3sNx3jMPfeJTWLChYwki2A4= =oDxz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
