Re: [E-devel] RFC: a new git-access level

2013-09-19 Thread Steven Le Roux
Well there is at least @ZaZo0o ...
Le 19 sept. 2013 21:24, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz
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  I guess maybe this is why we have no female contributors

 you wish that it was that easy to solve this problem. If you account
 the number of developers then we're on the average, round(0.1234) = 0

 There is a different problem with computer engineering  females, it
 goes back way before they can get to a free software community. You
 need a much larger number of females in computer engineer, to have a
 proportional amount to go to software development (not QA/testing,
 documentation, ...) to get yet another proportion to go to free
 software development... then proportion of C/low level development...
 to end with a very small fraction to be enthusiastic about E/EFL.


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Re: [E-devel] phab now broken.

2013-04-03 Thread Steven Le Roux
Or we could use TLS/SNI on the RP to match the good vhost with one IP.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Bertrand Jacquin be...@meleeweb.net wrote:

 Le mercredi 03 avril 2013 à 14h52, « Tom Hacohen » a écrit :
  On 03/04/13 13:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
   On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:23:38 +0200 Bertrand Jacquin be...@meleeweb.net
 said:
  
   but the don't want to. thats the problem. not magically and instantly
   working perfectly out of the box in their browser == fail in their
 eyes.
  
   Too lazy guys. And this not what I saw on other foss projets.
 Developers are
   not end users, not the same investment the both of them. Often, FOSS
   developers know about CAcert and trust it.
  
   this was end users trying to access blog stuff via https... :/
 
  1. Everyone should use https all the time.

 For things that need authentification. Not public ressources.

 Phabricator is br0ken, it put scheme + vhost in every href, js
 inclusion, css etc, it's really not the way to make a viable website. It
 should only propose absolute path to / and not the full URL.

  2. As Carsten has said, https doesn't really work for most people
  (because of CACert).

 Nothing we can do about CAcert, but it's better than a own self
 generated cert.

  We need to fix it. Either by getting free starttls certs for phab,
  build, www, and git, if possible, or figuring out another solution.

 A wildcard is necessary overwise we need one certificate per IP, and so
 one vhost, one public IP. This is not a longterm solution, not really
 feasble.

 A proper wildcard cert can fix the issue. But it's not something cheap.

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Re: [E-devel] phab now broken.

2013-04-03 Thread Steven Le Roux
#define work ?

Even if you get a warning and a striked lock in your url bar, it's
working...

SSL certs in browser is just a trust network... and you can just buy this
trust with costly webtrust audit...

In case you missed it, China had eaten 18% of the internet trafic during
15minutes...  not an error... they are in the ROOT CA granted in browser
(CNN) so they basicaly did a giant MITM.




On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com wrote:

 On 03/04/13 13:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:23:38 +0200 Bertrand Jacquin be...@meleeweb.net
 said:
 
  but the don't want to. thats the problem. not magically and instantly
  working perfectly out of the box in their browser == fail in their
 eyes.
 
  Too lazy guys. And this not what I saw on other foss projets.
 Developers are
  not end users, not the same investment the both of them. Often, FOSS
  developers know about CAcert and trust it.
 
  this was end users trying to access blog stuff via https... :/

 1. Everyone should use https all the time.
 2. As Carsten has said, https doesn't really work for most people
 (because of CACert).

 We need to fix it. Either by getting free starttls certs for phab,
 build, www, and git, if possible, or figuring out another solution.

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Re: [E-devel] phab now broken.

2013-04-03 Thread Steven Le Roux
me (if you can read frog :) ) :
http://steven.le-roux.info/comment-la-chine-a-detourner-15-du-trafic-int

Or :
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=249#

I reversed some numbers :)

It was : 15% of Internet BGP routes, during 18%.

The thing is... if in those 15% you have Google, Youtube and YouPr0n, you
basically have 90% of the overall traffic...




On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:23 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:02:28 +0200 Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info
 wrote:

  #define work ?
 
  Even if you get a warning and a striked lock in your url bar, it's
  working...
 
  SSL certs in browser is just a trust network... and you can just buy
  this trust with costly webtrust audit...
 
  In case you missed it, China had eaten 18% of the internet trafic
  during 15minutes...  not an error... they are in the ROOT CA granted
  in browser (CNN) so they basicaly did a giant MITM.

 I did miss that, got links for it?

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Re: [E-devel] phab now broken.

2013-04-02 Thread Steven Le Roux
We could go with CACert ... not a big deal if a last century browser alerts
with an unknown CA... at least chrome has it built-in already.


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Raoul Hecky raoul.he...@gmail.com wrote:

 Le 02.04.2013 14:58, Bertrand Jacquin a écrit :
  On 2013-04-02 13:35, Raoul Hecky wrote:
  Le 31.03.2013 22:49, Bertrand Jacquin a écrit :
  On 2013-03-28 09:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-5153fd6e428484.46501811.png
 
  http and https both... :/ :(
 
  OK. To made a report on this.
 
  Some people was wanting phab in HTTP for the gsoc page as the cert
  is
  not an official trusted one, so we moved to HTTP, what break thing
  for
  some other people, so they revert to HTTPS, we do this 2/3 times
  cause
  of no sync betwee, people.
 
  Why not using StartSSL to get a free trusted certificate:
  https://www.startssl.com/
 
  Cause we need a wildcard one and they don't provide free wildcard
  certs.

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org (the site)

2013-02-14 Thread Steven Le Roux
Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site.

Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even
curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money
transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser.

To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will handle
many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web site.

Regards,


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 + Nathan Baxter
 nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net said:

   How far back does browser support need to go?
   for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work..
 and
   netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we
   can sensibly
   do. i think i'd say make ie7 work ie... when ie finally stopped
   being AS crap
   and begin to think of the modern world a little but it depends
   on how hard
   it is.
  
   There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but
 not
   impossible.
   My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the
 means
   to test this.
  
   If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should
 have
   most of the bases covered.
  
   Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother
   with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of
   the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say
   that less than 0.006% of the people that enter the E
   website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs.
  
   http://www.ie6countdown.com/
  
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  Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the newer
   superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10,
  but this isn't my site, it's the teams.

 the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use. they
 live
 on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not
 allowed
 to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the
 question is just how nice. how much work is it? how much does it limit
 us?
 i'd agree with css3/html5 stuff only except for the fact that reality is
 people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are
 still
 around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a good
 baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a lot
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org (the site)

2013-02-14 Thread Steven Le Roux
Yes I agree :)

I wasn't doing a bootstrap evangelisation but backing the idea of keeping
this web site simple is important, as it's just a showcase, not a money
factory :)

Do you need some help by the way ?

Do we add social things ?

A tweet feed ?

Regards,




On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nathan Baxter 
nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net wrote:

 On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info
 said:
 
  agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it
 degrades
  tho and who those people are.. only time will tell.
 
  Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site.
 
  Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even
  curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money
  transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser.
 
  To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will
 handle
  many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web
 site.
 
  Regards,
 

 Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own
 css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just
 requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and
 if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully anyway.

 I'm officially on this now! It will work.

  On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 + Nathan Baxter
  nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net said:
 
  How far back does browser support need to go?
  for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work..
  and
  netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we
  can sensibly
  do. i think i'd say make ie7 work ie... when ie finally stopped
  being AS crap
  and begin to think of the modern world a little but it depends
  on how hard
  it is.
  There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but
  not
  impossible.
  My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the
  means
  to test this.
 
  If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should
  have
  most of the bases covered.
  Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother
  with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of
  the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say
  that less than 0.006% of the people that enter the E
  website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs.
 
  http://www.ie6countdown.com/
 
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  Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the
 newer
   superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10,
  but this isn't my site, it's the teams.
  the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use.
 they
  live
  on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not
  allowed
  to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the
  question is just how nice. how much work is it? how much does it
 limit
  us?
  i'd agree with css3/html5 stuff only except for the fact that
 reality is
  people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are
  still
  around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a
 good
  baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a
 lot
  and
  often - so thats less of a problem. opera too etc.
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org (the site)

2013-02-14 Thread Steven Le Roux
There is

@enlightenmentfr
@edevel

But the wall feed can just look for (#efl, #evas, #ecore, #e17, #e18,...)
hashtags. It's more useful to show the life of the project, libs, etc...

Maybe you could replace xml by Yaml ?which is more readable (even if, ok
this template is clear...). I agree too on the fact we don't need a CMS
with database etc. We will maybe have to add some simple feature to this
template like blockquotes, etc... I have to check the existing template
engine, but maybe just a tag in newsItem could match a CSS entry to make
it blockquoted. Or just write html inside newsItem tags... don't know
yet... what do you think ?


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Nathan Baxter 
nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net wrote:

 On 14/02/13 17:17, Steven Le Roux wrote:
  Yes I agree :)
 
  I wasn't doing a bootstrap evangelisation but backing the idea of keeping
  this web site simple is important, as it's just a showcase, not a money
  factory :)

 No worries :)

 
  Do you need some help by the way ?

 I probably will do, my primary objective for now is to construct an XCF
 of what I want to achieve. That way I have a decent reference point and
 can get buy in from the team before I start the real work.

  Do we add social things ?

 It would prbably be best to keep the social elements that are already
 there. So yes :)

  A tweet feed ?

 Is there a twitter page? It would be useful if useful information is put
 there, If there is a twitter page, who maintains it? Implementation
 shouldn't be too difficult, my only concern is maintenance of the actual
 twitter page and not having tweets re-apear that are older than 6 months.

 I want to keep the current method of additional sheets that are being
 used only transform them into xml. This would make maintenance a lot
 easier, it'll also be easier to tag i.e.

 eItem
  date20120214/date
  headingHeading/heading
  newsItemNews about heading/newsItem
 /eItem

 etcetera. This removes the need for an external database management
 system and anyone with write access could add a news item. We could also
 store all the on-line documentation this way too.

 My general thoughts are: if you can't edit the site content in vim it's
 an image, if it isn't an image it should't be there :)

  Regards,
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nathan Baxter 
  nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net wrote:
 
  On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info
 
  said:
  agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it
  degrades
  tho and who those people are.. only time will tell.
 
  Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site.
 
  Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser,
 even
  curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss
 money
  transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser.
 
  To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will
  handle
  many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web
  site.
  Regards,
 
  Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own
  css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just
  requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and
  if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully
 anyway.
 
  I'm officially on this now! It will work.
 
  On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler 
 ras...@rasterman.com
  wrote:
  On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 + Nathan Baxter
  nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net said:
 
  How far back does browser support need to go?
  for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to
 work..
  and
  netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we
  can sensibly
  do. i think i'd say make ie7 work ie... when ie finally stopped
  being AS crap
  and begin to think of the modern world a little but it
 depends
  on how hard
  it is.
  There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming,
 but
  not
  impossible.
  My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the
  means
  to test this.
 
  If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we
 should
  have
  most of the bases covered.
  Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't
 bother
  with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6%
 of
  the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say
  that less than 0.006% of the people that enter the E
  website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs.
 
  http://www.ie6countdown.com/
 
  --
  Tom.
  Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the
  newer
   superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before
 IE10,
  but this isn't my site, it's the teams.
  the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use

Re: [E-devel] Porting EFL to android

2013-02-08 Thread Steven Le Roux
 after starting
 - See a nice edje clock rendered (if everything works correct!)

 Please don't kick my ass if anything goes wrong on your device

 Problems
 
 - Edje animation loop isn't working. So you see only the first frame
   rendered at 12 o'clock and that's it. I'm working on this...
 - If you don't have the edje file in correct place it may crash.
 - My way of displaying content is really bad as I get image content
   through jni. This is horrible slow! I'll improve it.
 - Sometimes there are crashes. And then your phone hangs for several
   seconds until the process is killed. I hadn't time to debug it today.

 If you're not brave enough here is a photo:

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 Video doesn't help as animation loop isn't working. :-)

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Re: [E-devel] Heads Up: EFL single tree is ready for tests!

2013-01-15 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi,

trying the efl tree :

  CCLD   modules/emotion/gstreamer/module.la
  CCLD   lib/ethumb/libethumb.la
  CCLD   edje_external/emotion/module.la
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_cc
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_decc
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_player
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_inspector
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_external_inspector
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_codegen
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_pick
  CCLD   bin/edje/edje_watch
  CCLD   bin/ethumb/ethumb
  CCLD   bin/ethumb/ethumbd_slave
  EDJmodules/ethumb/emotion/template.edj
lib/evas/.libs/libevas.so: undefined reference to `eet_mmap'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [bin/ethumb/ethumb] Erreur 1
make[4]: *** Attente des tâches non terminées
lib/evas/.libs/libevas.so: undefined reference to `eet_mmap'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [bin/ethumb/ethumbd_slave] Erreur 1
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[2]: *** [all] Erreur 2
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make: *** [all] Erreur 2

Regards,



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri 
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 On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM, dieter roelants diete...@bsdusr.net
 wrote:
  On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:01:21 -0200
  Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Finally all the libs are in trunk/efl, making compilation hopefully
  faster and simpler. But as every major change, we need testers and
  cleanup.
 
  It would be nice to test it on different platforms to see what kind of
  problems comes up. Linux should be pretty solid, but would be nice to
  have feedback from BSD and Solaris people as well.
 
  I successfully built it on NetBSD (6.99.16) but:
 
  - I had to put _eina_file_copy_{read,write}_splice_internal() between
#ifdef SPLICE in src/lib/eina/eina_file.c

 Fixed, thanks!


  - libedje.so is linked with libfontconfig but the rpath as specified by
the latter's pkg-config file is not used when linking it. Because
fontconfig is installed under the Xorg prefix (/usr/X11R7/) this
breaks e.g. edje_cc during build. (I worked around it by setting
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.)

 This is very weird. libedje.so doesn't use fontconfig directly, it's
 just used by libevas.so and this uses whatever `pkg-config --libs
 fontconfig`reports. Is it a broken fontconfig.pc?


  - configure thinks dirfd() doesn't exist because on NetBSD it's a
macro, and the test program tries to compile without including
dirent.h. It looks like m4/efl_check_funcs.m4 has dirfd detection
that would work for this case.

 fixed as well... but it is bad news to me! I was about to replace that
 ac_check_funcs.m4 to use AC_SEARCH_LIBS(), but it would have problems
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Re: [E-devel] Heads Up: EFL single tree is ready for tests!

2013-01-15 Thread Steven Le Roux
The last commit remove this error... don't mind...

So ok here for efl tree on linux 64bits (as many of you... but here is my
test contribution ;) )


thx !


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 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info
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  Hi,
 
  trying the efl tree :
  lib/evas/.libs/libevas.so: undefined reference to `eet_mmap'
  collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

 weird, next failure send the following:

  - svn revision number
  - pastebin of make V=1 -C src lib/evas/libevas.la  (need to see if
 it includes: lib/eet/libeet.la, it should)
  - pastebin of src/Makefile, particularly the
 lib_evas_libevas_la_DEPENDENCIES and lib_evas_libevas_la_LIBADD (it
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Re: [E-devel] [Announce] Enlightenment DR 0.17 Omega

2012-12-18 Thread Steven Le Roux
Congrats for the amazing work !

And the more I use the new theme, the more I like it :) (finaly...  :) )


regards,


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz 
michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Today's release candidate of E17, [OMEGA 12], is the last pre-release;
 on Friday we will see the final release of Enlightenment DR 0.17.


 Changelog:
 * Translation updates
 * Compile fixes on non-linux platforms
 * Restoring default keybindings now restores all of the default keybindings
 * Same as above for mouse wheel bindings
 * Fixed a number of potential buffer overflows and memory leaks
 * Even more wallpapers
 * Tiling module now handles maximization of windows more effectively
 * Improvements to Window Remembers config dialog
 * Clock gadgets now scale the date
 * Fixed issue where radio widgets could have no radio item toggled
 * Pager config dialog now shows button names
 * Tiling module improvements when moving/resizing tiled windows
 * Improved RandR dialog
 * Navigate menu's Current Directory now works correctly when activated on
 files and removable media
 * Filemanager no longer loses icons which caused a DND operation failure
 * Filemanager now properly handles DND operations where the target is the
 icon of a removable device
 * Starting with an invalid configuration is now much less likely (nearly
 impossible) to result in a complete failure
 * Triggering Everything repeatedly no longer causes a crash
 * Refresh button on filemanager toolbar is now functional
 * Scale config dialog now detects changes properly and closes on apply
 * Shelf changes/deletions no longer create artifacts
 * Gadgets on shelves no longer sometimes show the wrong style in menus
 * Fixed crash when filemanager preview popup was present during directory
 refresh/change
 * Fixed a number of issues which prevented various locales from functioning
 or detecting correctly
 * Main applications menu no longer generates in a thread :(
 * Filemanager toolbars can no longer trigger crashes when deleted
 * Filemanager toolbars now store their position
 * Filemanager now more capable of opening .desktop files linked to
 directories
 * Filemanager toolbar path items now create and delete correctly
 * Filemanager no longer allows renaming files into/onto directories and
 other files
 * Show files in menu option removed from filemanager
 * [THEME] Cursor icons

 * E17 OMEGA - 81287

 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/enlightenment-0.17.0-omega.tar.gz

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 a very entertaining time-waster: I give you [ECHIEVEMENTS v1]!

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Re: [E-devel] site

2012-12-10 Thread Steven Le Roux
F**k ! http://www.whois.net/whois/e.org


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Re: [E-devel] [Announce] E17 Alpha Release

2012-11-05 Thread Steven Le Roux
W00T !!

congrats for the great job !

And congratulation for the great job and follow up  at
http://e17releasemanager.wordpress.com/



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 made. These decisions resulted
 in actions which ended up breaking my gmail (no joke), possibly
 foreshadowing the breaking of the world later on.
 This is the announcement for the ALPHA release of Enlightenment DR 0.17.
 E17 is a desktop environment
 that's been under development for a couple years, and it's finally at the
 point where we're happy enough with it to
 do an alpha release. Conveniently, this comes mere hours before I will be
 giving a presentation at LinuxCon
 wherein I will announce the release schedule for E17.

 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/enlightenment-0.17.0-alpha.tar.gz
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Re: [E-devel] [announcement] elemines 0.1

2012-09-13 Thread Steven Le Roux
really nice ! beautiful and stable for a 0.1 :)

now you could  add some social ranking stuff ;) (or a simple tweet my
time to elemine all those bombs ! ) It could provide a little bit of
advertisement for elemines and EFL)

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 Haha, very cool! We'll finally be able to make a desktop environment
 soon, and not just a WM, as we finally have apps. Though tbh, most of
 our apps are games,  I wonder what this says on our work ethics... :)

 Help me with eyesight, then, and you'll have another app :)

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 a smoother okular clone. yummy!


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Re: [E-devel] ANNOUNCEMENT: REGARDING E17 RELEASE

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Le Roux
It could be great to announce it in live from the presentation... but
some of the guys waiting with confetti and horn :), capturing that on
tape :)

an other date could be the 25th of december, but this is not the best
timeslot to have a maximum audience. (many vacations). So as suggested
 previously, the 17nov could be fun.



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 2012/9/5 Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) ebl...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz
 michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 [announcement]
 I've just received acceptance for a presentation about the road to and 
 release
 of E17 at Linuxcon EU (Barcelona, November 5-7).

 [request]
 In order to not ruin the impact of this presentation and the publicity 
 building
 up to it, I am hereby requesting that anyone who has any idea (you'll know
 if this applies to you) as to when we may release E17 to please not reveal
 anything about the release date; this will be a fun feature of my 
 presentation,
 and it would be a shame if I had to cut it because someone leaked the
 information early.

 [addendum]
 Note that you are free to tell anyone any release date that you feel best 
 suits
 you, personally, for the release, as long as it is in no way related to the
 actual date.



 of course it will be on the 17th of some month ...

 The 17th month.


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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] poll fyi

2012-07-31 Thread Steven Le Roux
w00t ! e17 is currently the leading WM in France ! yeah ;) by 33% and 25
votes



On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Chris Michael cp.mich...@samsung.comwrote:



 -Original Message-
 From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [mailto:ras...@rasterman.com]
 Sent: 31 July 2012 08:00
 To: Enlightenment developer list
 Cc: Chris Michael; 'support'; enlightenm...@samsung.com
 Subject: Re: [E-devel] [e-users] poll fyi

 On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:53:49 +0100 Chris Michael cp.mich...@samsung.com
 said:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [mailto:ras...@rasterman.com]
  Sent: 31 July 2012 07:45
  To: Enlightenment developer list
  Cc: support; enlightenm...@samsung.com
  Subject: Re: [E-devel] [e-users] poll fyi
 
  On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:08:26 -0400 Zoffix Znet zof...@zoffix.com said:
 
  
   On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:02 +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote:
has voted !
  
   Ditto :D
  
   
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:35 AM, P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
 On 07/31/2012 06:30 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  http://gopollgo.com/what-linux-desktop-do-you-use-currently
  :)
 

 Where are all the enlightened users? :(
  
   I think the stats are good enough, if you consider there's a large
   number of voters who simply use their OS's default desktop and don't
   know any better. I just won't believe Unity is the most popular
   desktop :) Its stats mostly reflect usage of Ubuntu that has Unity by
   default.
  
   Anyway, just wanted to say: keep up the amazing work, developers! I
 love
   e17, it's like a software than can read my mind and does exactly what I
   want :D :D :D
  
   Thanks!
 
   you want a beer. right?
 
  Guinness please :P

  the guinness module is a bit broken atm. will a duvel do?

 I suppose so ... was never real big on Ale but I'll take what I can get ;)

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Re: [E-devel] E SVN: cedric IN trunk/PROTO: . community

2012-07-31 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Enlightenment SVN
  no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote:
  Log:
  community: start extracting some data from the anonymous statistic we
 collect on our server.
 
  you people are crazy. You write a tool to analyze this shit in C?
  ahahaha... you have nothing better to do with your time, right? :-)

 I started to do it in Perl, then I realized that my Perl manual was
 still somewhere in a plane, but not yet at home. I started looking
 online to remember and then realized that it would have been faster
 for me to do it in C... I really looked at myself wondering for some
 time and then accepted the fact that I am more fluent in C than any
 other language... Yeah, i did feel a little bit bad about that...


lol, what do you want to do ? I could help with python or pig here.



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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] poll fyi

2012-07-30 Thread Steven Le Roux
has voted !

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  :)
 

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Re: [E-devel] Introducing EFL Korean User Group

2012-04-20 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:49:31 +0900 Jérôme Pinot ngc...@gmail.com said:

  On 04/20/12 20:11, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
   On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:05:19 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo 
 seojuyu...@gmail.com
   said:
  
On Apr 20, 2012 7:46 PM, Jérôme Pinot ngc...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/20/12 13:57, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
  Wow.. 10 years in Korea! That's great.
  I've tried ePeriodique before :) But I didn't notice it supports
  Korean
though.
  Interesting. Did you translate that by yourself?

 Yes, but this was mostly lonely words, so it was not a big
 challenge :-)
   
still great! ifound a typo about halogen though.
  
   :) my korean *IS* just typos. 치발! :)
  
  Btw, the Korean User Group is not limited to foreigners.
  It is just a blob of links about EFL information written in
 Korean.
  We may open up a forum later but as of now we have links only.
 
  Anyhow, it's great to know that you lived in Korean for 10 years.

 And I'm still here, mostly in Daejeon, sometimes in Seoul.

wow that's a news! what do you do there?
come to suwon and spank raster when you have time :)
  
   or come to seoul. i live in yongsan. maybe we should have regular
 monthly
   e/efl dinners now we have more people spread out? if you're in seoul
   sometimes... we might be able to arrange something.
 
  Yongsan is good for me, there is the train station near. And there are
  french restaurants at Itaewon :-P

 bah! the french don't know how to make food. you never discovered kimchi
 and
 pickles to be served at EVERY MEAL! if there isn't kimchi.. it isn't
 food! :-P :)


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Re: [E-devel] FOSDEM E group picture

2012-02-06 Thread Steven Le Roux
I guess Beber was calling his car insurance ;)


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 Not at all. I was just using a light coat, standard jeans pants and a
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Re: [E-devel] NSIS installer for the EFL 1.1.0 on Windows

2011-12-19 Thread Steven Le Roux
I set up a vm to test it and it seems ok here for edje and eet at least.

are you saying that expedite should be there installed ? I can't find it.





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 for those who want to try it, here is the installer:

 http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~doursse/NSIS/Efl-1.1.0.exe

 the available EFL are up to edje. So expedite here.

 It's a temporary installer, as i haven't well tested. The official
 one will be available around the 7/8 january 2012

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Re: [E-devel] New EFL release cycle 1.1/1.5 BETA

2011-11-28 Thread Steven Le Roux
Congrats to all devs !


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 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eina-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eina-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eet-1.5.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eet-1.5.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ecore-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ecore-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/embryo-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/embryo-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/edje-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/edje-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/efreet-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/efreet-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/e_dbus-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/e_dbus-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eeze-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eeze-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/expedite-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/expedtie-1.1.0-beta.tar.bz2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas_generic_loaders-1.1.0-beta.tar.gz
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Re: [E-devel] Working on Docs

2011-06-06 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi,

at the last EFL meeting in france with #e.fr , yoz suggested  few,
bloody simple example which could be run by simple copy/paste/compile

I think it's a good idea too because doxygen and API (documentation)
works great with devs, but it's maybe not sexy enough to convert a web
dev/sysadmin/whatever into a C developper...



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 ProFUSION is proud to be back to work on EFL, thanks Samsung ;-)

 Our current work is to improve documentation of core EFL so we can
 match competitors like Android and iPhone, it should not just improve
 parts of API, but lots of examples, diagrams and things that lead
 third party application developers to use our libraries properly.

 Rasterman requested us to cover few goals:
   - examples should be external files that can be compiled and
 checked, avoiding bogus examples ;-)
   - all doc should be in doxygen
   - example files should be installable
   - all examples/docs in the package itself (see below for some shortcomings)
   - big picture should be provided to introduce users to concepts and
 ways of doing things, with diagrams and screenshots whenever possible.
 Screenshots should be auto-generated to match theme changes with ease.

 Shortcomings: EFL is well split into independent modules, Evas does
 not depend on Ecore, for instance. But to make actual useful examples,
 we rather focus on the important bits and instead of creating our own
 implementation to keep modules independent, we'll depend on these
 external libraries FOR THE EXAMPLES.
    That means that if you --enable-build-examples it will pull in
 ecore-evas so we have ecore_evas_new() and ecore_main_loop_begin().
 This will require examples to have 2 phase builds.
    An alternative we could do is to create a new sub project inside
 examples/, with it's own autogen.sh, configure.ac and
 Makefile.am that can even be installed into
 /usr/share/$PACKAGE/examples/.  We can link the main project to have
 make examples to enter examples and run the build on it.   I like
 this idea more, but let's see what others think.

 We're currently starting with Eina, Eet, Evas and Elementary. Please
 try to avoid endless commits changing whitespaces, okay? (/me looks at
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Re: [E-devel] Working on Docs

2011-06-06 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote:


 On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Steven Le Roux wrote:

 Hi,

 at the last EFL meeting in france with #e.fr , yoz suggested  few,
 bloody simple example which could be run by simple copy/paste/compile

 I think it's a good idea too because doxygen and API (documentation)
 works great with devs, but it's maybe not sexy enough to convert a web
 dev/sysadmin/whatever into a C developper...

 in the eina doc, i added tutorials that could be copy/pasted. I even added
 how to compile them, iirc


great :)

 Vincent




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 Our current work is to improve documentation of core EFL so we can
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 Rasterman requested us to cover few goals:
   - examples should be external files that can be compiled and
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   - all examples/docs in the package itself (see below for some
 shortcomings)
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 ways of doing things, with diagrams and screenshots whenever possible.
 Screenshots should be auto-generated to match theme changes with ease.

 Shortcomings: EFL is well split into independent modules, Evas does
 not depend on Ecore, for instance. But to make actual useful examples,
 we rather focus on the important bits and instead of creating our own
 implementation to keep modules independent, we'll depend on these
 external libraries FOR THE EXAMPLES.
    That means that if you --enable-build-examples it will pull in
 ecore-evas so we have ecore_evas_new() and ecore_main_loop_begin().
 This will require examples to have 2 phase builds.
    An alternative we could do is to create a new sub project inside
 examples/, with it's own autogen.sh, configure.ac and
 Makefile.am that can even be installed into
 /usr/share/$PACKAGE/examples/.  We can link the main project to have
 make examples to enter examples and run the build on it.   I like
 this idea more, but let's see what others think.

 We're currently starting with Eina, Eet, Evas and Elementary. Please
 try to avoid endless commits changing whitespaces, okay? (/me looks at
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Re: [E-devel] DesktopSummit 2011 in Berlin

2011-05-26 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Leandro Pereira lean...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Leif Middelschulte
 leif.middelschu...@gmail.com wrote:
 As i'm already in Berlin i probably will have some time for this event...
 Some more e devs from .br are attending, as Leandro and Raphael (Kubo).

 I'm not sure yet; maybe I'll go to the CCC Camp (which overlaps
 Desktop Summit by a couple of days), so I might appear there and join
 the E folks for some beers :)


I'll try too ;) moreover I don't know Berlin ;) (but in august... ooch
I'll need a cooler ;) )


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Re: [E-devel] EEZE

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi
lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I requested that everyone re-run the eeze udev test a couple weeks ago. I 
 got 4
 responses. This is not sufficient.

 Call me lazy! What command?

 These are in my PATH:

 eeze_disk_ls  eeze_mount    eeze_umount

there is e17_install_path/bin/eeze_udev_test

which should output :



~$ eeze_udev_test
For my first trick, I will find all of your keyboards and return their syspaths.
Found keyboard: /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.2/usb5
Found keyboard:
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.2/usb5/5-1/5-1:1.0/input/input0/event0

Next, I will find all of your mice and print the corresponding manufacturer.
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.2 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.2/usb5 with vendor:
Linux 2.6.38-2-amd64 uhci_hcd
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.2 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.1/usb4 with vendor:
Linux 2.6.38-2-amd64 uhci_hcd
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.1 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0 with vendor: (null)
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.1/usb4/4-2/input/input6/event6
with vendor: X10 Wireless Technology Inc
Found mouse /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.1/usb4/4-2/input/input6/mouse1
with vendor: X10 Wireless Technology Inc
Found mouse 
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.2/usb5/5-2/5-2:1.0/input/input2/event2
with vendor: Logitech
Found mouse 
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.2/usb5/5-2/5-2:1.0/input/input2/mouse0
with vendor: Logitech

Now let's try something a little more difficult.  Mountable filesystems!
Found device: 
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sda/sda1
You probably know it better as /dev/sda1
It's formatted as ext4!
Found device: 
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:1/2:0:1:0/block/sdb/sdb1
You probably know it better as /dev/sdb1
It's formatted as ext3!

Internal drives, anyone?  With serial numbers?
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sda:
SAMSUNG_HD103UJ_S13PJDWS623110
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:1/2:0:1:0/block/sdb:
SAMSUNG_HD103UJ_S13PJDWS621932

Got any removables?  I'm gonna find em!

And now for something more complicated.  Plug or unplug your keyboard
or mouse for me.


= I plug an usb key and get the msg :

You plugged in /dev/bus/usb/001/005!
All tests completed, exiting successfully!


= this is a success :)







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Re: [E-devel] EEZE

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com wrote:
 On Mon, 23 May 2011 23:39:43 +0200
 Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi
 lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com
  wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I requested that everyone re-run the eeze udev test a couple weeks ago. I
  got 4 responses. This is not sufficient.
 
  Call me lazy! What command?
 
  These are in my PATH:
 
  eeze_disk_ls  eeze_mount    eeze_umount

 there is e17_install_path/bin/eeze_udev_test

 which should output :



 ~$ eeze_udev_test

[...]



 Is this accurate? you had no usb drives?


yes it is, I had to plug a usb key to test it.


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Re: [E-devel] EEZE

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com wrote:
 On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:06:29 +0200
 Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com 
 wrote:
  On Mon, 23 May 2011 23:39:43 +0200
  Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi
  lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi wrote:
   Hi,
  
   On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com
   wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I requested that everyone re-run the eeze udev test a couple weeks ago.
   I got 4 responses. This is not sufficient.
  
   Call me lazy! What command?
  
   These are in my PATH:
  
   eeze_disk_ls  eeze_mount    eeze_umount
 
  there is e17_install_path/bin/eeze_udev_test
 
  which should output :
 
 
 
  ~$ eeze_udev_test

 [...]

 
 
  Is this accurate? you had no usb drives?
 

 yes it is, I had to plug a usb key to test it.


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 so then it's not detecting your removable drive ?



I tried again with the usb stick already plugged in :


Got any removables?  I'm gonna find em!

And now for something more complicated.  Plug or unplug your keyboard
or mouse for me.

= so here i remove it :

You unplugged /dev/input/event0!
All tests completed, exiting successfully!


should it be listed under the Got any removables? question ?


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Re: [E-devel] EEZE

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com wrote:
 On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:18:35 +0200
 Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com 
 wrote:
  On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:06:29 +0200
  Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com
  wrote:
   On Mon, 23 May 2011 23:39:43 +0200
   Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
  
   On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi
   lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi wrote:
Hi,
   
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz 
m...@zentific.com
wrote:
Hi,
   
I requested that everyone re-run the eeze udev test a couple weeks
ago. I got 4 responses. This is not sufficient.
   
Call me lazy! What command?
   
These are in my PATH:
   
eeze_disk_ls  eeze_mount    eeze_umount
  
   there is e17_install_path/bin/eeze_udev_test
  
   which should output :
  
  
  
   ~$ eeze_udev_test
 
  [...]
 
  
  
   Is this accurate? you had no usb drives?
  
 
  yes it is, I had to plug a usb key to test it.
 
 
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  so then it's not detecting your removable drive ?
 


 I tried again with the usb stick already plugged in :


 Got any removables?  I'm gonna find em!

 And now for something more complicated.  Plug or unplug your keyboard
 or mouse for me.

 = so here i remove it :

 You unplugged /dev/input/event0!
 All tests completed, exiting successfully!


 should it be listed under the Got any removables? question ?
 yes. I'll need a paste of 'udevadm info --export-db' with the stick plugged 
 in



 here it is...


in case the list drop the file :
http://demo.ovh.com/fr/84abf53f8dca780b30f4f9bc01c9314c/



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Re: [E-devel] An EFL dev days in Paris or almost :-)

2011-05-10 Thread Steven Le Roux
hmmm okay !

I had to remove all the e17 directory.

better now :)

thx !


On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr wrote:
 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr wrote:
 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 thanks to you both guys from ordissimo and e.fr. I came too late but
 it was great anyway to talk to you guys, with EFL and anything else.

 Thanks !

 We the number of ppl there, it's a real success which need to be
 reiterate in few month imho ;)

 Hehe, will see next year imho :)

 PS :  oh I forget, @raster , e is truely not compiling right now ;)

 Oh, what are your error ? I just finished to build it a few minutes
 ago without issue, so maybe not with the same compile flag.

 maybe because I tried it again this morning after updating core efl  :

 /opt/e17/include/Ecore.h

 That's file should not exist ! Seems like you have an old (around 1
 year old) build that is messing with your current attempt to build. If
 you can erase the /opt/e17/include directory and build again, thinks
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Re: [E-devel] An EFL dev days in Paris or almost :-)

2011-05-09 Thread Steven Le Roux
thanks to you both guys from ordissimo and e.fr. I came too late but
it was great anyway to talk to you guys, with EFL and anything else.

We the number of ppl there, it's a real success which need to be
reiterate in few month imho ;)

PS :  oh I forget, @raster , e is truely not compiling right now ;)


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 You can read the full announce here
 http://enlightenment.fr/2011/03/31/enlightenment-france-et-ordissimo-une-journee-de-presentation-des-efls/
 .

 Many french member of the Enlightenment community will be there during
 all the weekend, and maybe more as some of us will also stay for a
 stand at the Solution Linux : http://www.solutionslinux.fr/ . So if
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Re: [E-devel] An EFL dev days in Paris or almost :-)

2011-05-09 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr wrote:
 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 thanks to you both guys from ordissimo and e.fr. I came too late but
 it was great anyway to talk to you guys, with EFL and anything else.

 Thanks !

 We the number of ppl there, it's a real success which need to be
 reiterate in few month imho ;)

 Hehe, will see next year imho :)

 PS :  oh I forget, @raster , e is truely not compiling right now ;)

 Oh, what are your error ? I just finished to build it a few minutes
 ago without issue, so maybe not with the same compile flag.

maybe because I tried it again this morning after updating core efl  :


---
EASY_E17 1.4.0 CMD: make -j 2
---
make  all-recursive
make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /root/e17_src/e »
Making all in src
make[2]: entrant dans le répertoire « /root/e17_src/e/src »
Making all in bin
make[3]: entrant dans le répertoire « /root/e17_src/e/src/bin »
Making all in e_fm
make[4]: entrant dans le répertoire « /root/e17_src/e/src/bin/e_fm »
  CC e_fm_main.o
  CC e_fm_ipc.o
In file included from ../../../src/bin/e_fm_shared_device.h:4:0,
 from e_fm_main.c:57:
../../../src/bin/e_fm_shared_types.h:108:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_Cb’
In file included from ../../../src/bin/e_fm.h:50:0,
 from ../../../src/bin/e_includes.h:103,
 from ../../../src/bin/e.h:199,
 from e_fm_ipc.c:39:
../../../src/bin/e_fm_shared_types.h:108:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_Cb’
e_fm_main.c: In function ‘main’:
e_fm_main.c:149:4: warning: passing argument 2 of
‘ecore_event_handler_add’ from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:232:30: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *, int,
void *)’ but argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *, int,  void *)’
e_fm_main.c:150:4: warning: passing argument 2 of
‘ecore_event_handler_add’ from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:232:30: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *, int,
void *)’ but argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *, int,  void *)’
e_fm_main.c:151:4: warning: passing argument 2 of
‘ecore_event_handler_add’ from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:232:30: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *, int,
void *)’ but argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *, int,  void *)’
make[4]: *** [e_fm_main.o] Erreur 1
make[4]: *** Attente des tâches non terminées
In file included from ../../../src/bin/e_includes.h:34:0,
 from ../../../src/bin/e.h:201,
 from e_fm_ipc.c:39:
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:28:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Orientation’
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:45:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Signal_Format’
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:71:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Orientation’
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:80:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Screen_Size’
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:119:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Orientation’
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:126:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Screen_Size’
../../../src/bin/e_randr.h:136:4: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘Ecore_X_Randr_Output_Policy’
e_fm_ipc.c: In function ‘_e_fm_ipc_init’:
e_fm_ipc.c:190:4: warning: passing argument 2 of
‘ecore_event_handler_add’ from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:232:30: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *, int,
void *)’ but argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *, int,  void *)’
e_fm_ipc.c:191:4: warning: passing argument 2 of
‘ecore_event_handler_add’ from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:232:30: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *, int,
void *)’ but argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *, int,  void *)’
e_fm_ipc.c:192:4: warning: passing argument 2 of
‘ecore_event_handler_add’ from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:232:30: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *, int,
void *)’ but argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *, int,  void *)’
e_fm_ipc.c: In function ‘_e_fm_ipc_cb_server_add’:
e_fm_ipc.c:207:11: error: ‘ECORE_CALLBACK_PASS_ON’ undeclared (first
use in this function)
e_fm_ipc.c:207:11: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only
once for each function it appears in
e_fm_ipc.c: In function ‘_e_fm_ipc_cb_server_del’:
e_fm_ipc.c:215:11: error: ‘ECORE_CALLBACK_PASS_ON’ undeclared (first
use in this function)
e_fm_ipc.c: In function ‘_e_fm_ipc_monitor_start_try’:
e_fm_ipc.c:359:2: warning: passing argument 1 of ‘ecore_idler_add’
from incompatible pointer type
/opt/e17/include/Ecore.h:269:22: note: expected ‘int (*)(void *)’ but
argument is of type ‘Eina_Bool (*)(void *)’
e_fm_ipc.c

Re: [E-devel] URGENT: RASTER!!!!

2010-11-30 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hmm reviewing it, it's not good.

You should better use EINA_LOG_INFO()  and then print it with
eina_log_print() ;)


Happy birthday Raster ;)


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 Index: src/modules/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c
 ===
 --- src/modules/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c    (revision 55076)
 +++ src/modules/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c    (working copy)
 @@ -219,6 +219,7 @@
  _re_wincheck(Render_Engine *re)
  {
    if (re-win-surf) return 1;
 +#error Happy birthday raster
    eng_window_resurf(re-win);
    if (!re-win-surf)
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Re: [E-devel] Edje EXTERNAL example: video player

2010-09-28 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Jose Gonzalez jose_...@juno.com wrote:
 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)
 ebl...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:


 For those interested in learning Edje and wonder what is the so called
 external support, here is a small demo video player that I wrote
 entirely in Emotion. You need the last Emotion to get the position in
 slider.

 PS: I'm not in the mood for wiki, if you are please add it there
 somewhere :-)



 Me thinks it's worth some blogging somehow comparing to Qt QML, isn't it?
 ;)


 200% agreed, 0% time to do it! I finished this around 2:30am...

 What I'd really want is more people to blog more about EFL. I've
 noticed that EXTERNAL is not even known by most, and actually it was
 even hard for me, the dude that created it, to figure out what to do


  Please refrain from taking credit for other people's work
 and ideas. Not only were you not the dude that created it,
 but in fact you had absolutely nothing to do with its creation.

 AHAHAHAHAHAAH... and the dude comes from nowhere to cause some
 flamewars, let's go...

no need for a war :) Congrats for the work !



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Re: [E-devel] Evas not compiling anymore

2009-11-25 Thread Steven Le Roux

 I just checked this out, it's a problem with autoconf.
 Debian testing or unstable (and probably most others like ubuntu,
 fedora, ...) uses 2.65 by default which is either broken or had an API
 change (I guess the first one is true).
 Using 2.63 works perfectly fine.



Hi,

You're right I'm using this 2.65 version.

Thx for your help ! (I used the packages for debian to be able to work ;=but
I will try to recompile when a new release will be ready for Debian).




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Re: [E-devel] Evas not compiling anymore

2009-11-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
joined

Actually, I noticed --enable-image_loader_edb si not a default argument to
configure. And I don't give it (using default easy_e17.sh 1.3.0).

I am purging my tree because Raster doen's seem to have the pb on his side.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote:



 On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Steven Le Roux wrote:

  I put it here : http://pastebin.com/m25c5fd79


 paste also:

 config.log
 aclocal.m4

 Vincent




  checking whether to enable Edb image loader... yes
 ./configure: line 24049: syntax error near unexpected token `edb,'
 ./configure: line 24049: `   EVAS_CHECK_LOADER_DEP_EDB(edb,
 ${want_loader}, have_loader=yes, have_loader=no)'


 this should not happen (though i never tried to compile evas with edb).
 Try:

 autoreconf -f -i
 ./configure


 I did it without success.
 But I tried with the latest snapshot and I encountered the same issue
 so perhaps it's closed to my environment...

 Yet, thx for your help


 Vincent


 See the joined evas.log.

 I encountered that because after a update of my compil, e didn't start
 anymore due to an evas issue (Evas can't load the Sans font. Check
 Evas has fontconfig support... ), so I added the fontconfig dev lib
 but it doesn't compile for the moment.

 Bypassing the edb issue, there is still another one with the following
 check on eet image loader. I guess the problem is not located on Edb
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Re: [E-devel] Evas not compiling anymore

2009-11-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote:



 On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Steven Le Roux wrote:

  joined

 Actually, I noticed --enable-image_loader_edb si not a default argument to
 configure. And I don't give it (using default easy_e17.sh 1.3.0).


 well, edb is not used anymore by us.

 try --enable-image_loader-edb


but I don't want it :)

and I have the pb with all loaders... I bypassed edb in configure, and then,
eet loader, gif, jpeg, png, tiff, xpm, pmaps... :)

I'm grabing a fresh svn, and let you know about this.

thx !




 vincent


  I am purging my tree because Raster doen's seem to have the pb on his
 side.

 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr
 wrote:



 On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Steven Le Roux wrote:

  I put it here : http://pastebin.com/m25c5fd79



 paste also:

 config.log
 aclocal.m4

 Vincent




   checking whether to enable Edb image loader... yes

 ./configure: line 24049: syntax error near unexpected token `edb,'
 ./configure: line 24049: `   EVAS_CHECK_LOADER_DEP_EDB(edb,
 ${want_loader}, have_loader=yes, have_loader=no)'


  this should not happen (though i never tried to compile evas with
 edb).
 Try:

 autoreconf -f -i
 ./configure


 I did it without success.
 But I tried with the latest snapshot and I encountered the same issue
 so perhaps it's closed to my environment...

 Yet, thx for your help


  Vincent


  See the joined evas.log.

 I encountered that because after a update of my compil, e didn't
 start
 anymore due to an evas issue (Evas can't load the Sans font. Check
 Evas has fontconfig support... ), so I added the fontconfig dev lib
 but it doesn't compile for the moment.

 Bypassing the edb issue, there is still another one with the
 following
 check on eet image loader. I guess the problem is not located on Edb
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[E-devel] Evas not compiling anymore

2009-11-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
SVN revision 43894.


checking whether to enable Edb image loader... yes
./configure: line 24049: syntax error near unexpected token `edb,'
./configure: line 24049: `   EVAS_CHECK_LOADER_DEP_EDB(edb,
${want_loader}, have_loader=yes, have_loader=no)'

See the joined evas.log.

I encountered that because after a update of my compil, e didn't start
anymore due to an evas issue (Evas can't load the Sans font. Check
Evas has fontconfig support... ), so I added the fontconfig dev lib
but it doesn't compile for the moment.

Bypassing the edb issue, there is still another one with the following
check on eet image loader. I guess the problem is not located on Edb
especially.

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Re: [E-devel] Evas not compiling anymore

2009-11-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
Better with the log file I guess :)

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote:
 SVN revision 43894.


 checking whether to enable Edb image loader... yes
 ./configure: line 24049: syntax error near unexpected token `edb,'
 ./configure: line 24049: `   EVAS_CHECK_LOADER_DEP_EDB(edb,
 ${want_loader}, have_loader=yes, have_loader=no)'

 See the joined evas.log.

 I encountered that because after a update of my compil, e didn't start
 anymore due to an evas issue (Evas can't load the Sans font. Check
 Evas has fontconfig support... ), so I added the fontconfig dev lib
 but it doesn't compile for the moment.

 Bypassing the edb issue, there is still another one with the following
 check on eet image loader. I guess the problem is not located on Edb
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Re: [E-devel] Evas not compiling anymore

2009-11-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote:


 On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Steven Le Roux wrote:

 Better with the log file I guess :)

 it's still not attached :-)

weird, is there a limit on file ? (the log is about 11K)

I put it here : http://pastebin.com/m25c5fd79


 checking whether to enable Edb image loader... yes
 ./configure: line 24049: syntax error near unexpected token `edb,'
 ./configure: line 24049: `   EVAS_CHECK_LOADER_DEP_EDB(edb,
 ${want_loader}, have_loader=yes, have_loader=no)'

 this should not happen (though i never tried to compile evas with edb). Try:

 autoreconf -f -i
 ./configure

I did it without success.
But I tried with the latest snapshot and I encountered the same issue
so perhaps it's closed to my environment...

Yet, thx for your help


 Vincent


 See the joined evas.log.

 I encountered that because after a update of my compil, e didn't start
 anymore due to an evas issue (Evas can't load the Sans font. Check
 Evas has fontconfig support... ), so I added the fontconfig dev lib
 but it doesn't compile for the moment.

 Bypassing the edb issue, there is still another one with the following
 check on eet image loader. I guess the problem is not located on Edb
 especially.

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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment working with top-tier electronics maker

2009-11-17 Thread Steven Le Roux
What a great news Raster !

A S*ms*ng TV with an EFL mediacenter would be my dreamt TV ! Hopefully
we now have UPnP support ;).

If this electronic producer could listen, producing IP fridge, IP and
all connected machine in a kitchen for example...

Do you have any idea on the sponsoring ? this is by hiring you ?
hiring a software team to integrate/develop EFLs in their electronics
devices ?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 We are working with a top-5 electronics producer (one of the largest in the
 world, who produces millions of mobile phones, televisions, sound systems and
 more per year) to bring Enlightenment and especially it's deep technology to
 their products. In fact not just working with this manufacturer, but they are
 actively sponsoring development on Enlightenment and EFL to ensure it does 
 what
 is needed for their products (beyond what it already does).

 What does this mean for you as users and developers? It means that you are
 likely to see top-quality electronic devices running the same things you use 
 on
 your desktop. This means as a developer the same libraries and API's will be
 there, ready to use, out of the box. You can even start your development now 
 in
 anticipation. Use Elementary, Evas, Edje, Ecore, Eet, Eina, and so on and
 design for a small screen with a finger and minimal keyboard (by small 
 screen
 i mean in the range of 240x320, 320x480 and so on up to 480x800 for portrait,
 and similar for landscape (320x240, 480x320, 800x480).

 Do it now so you have code that already works. you can develop on the desktop
 no problems ad it ports with a simple make to the devices in question.

 That's about all the information we have for now. Expect something in the
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Re: [E-devel] No more ECN ?

2009-10-12 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri 
 vto...@univ-evry.fr
 said:

 
  Hey,
 
  I just wanted to know if the ECN of september will be published or not
 :-)

 ecn?


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Re: [E-devel] Choice of a Window Manager

2009-10-12 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Brian Wang brian.wang.0...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:49:03 +0800 Brian Wang
  brian.wang.0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  We are running Elementary/EFL on our target device (ARM926EJS @
  400MHz).  We would like to run a window manager to simply the windows
  management.
 
  I have seen some e17+Illume demo videos on the web and would love to
  see its functionalities on our device.  However, it is the boot time
  that is of concern.  Judging from the video clips, it takes 30~50
  seconds to boot when running the e17+Illume.  That seems forever for a
  simple multimedia device.  Maybe it is due to too many modules
  configured in?
 
  Besides e17, are there any window managers that are based on EFL?  I'm
 
  Nope.

 I guess that leaves e17 as the only option.

 
  personally drooling over Illume's software keyboards...  Matchbox
  window manager + panel used to be an option, but it's kind of static
  after I saw Illume...
  My dream window manager would boot fast, small in size and with a sexy
  software keyboard.  Is it too much to ask for?
 
  One question that comes to mind, having worked on the boot speed
  problem. is what do you mean by boot time?   Time from turn on to a
  usable GUI?  That is not all E17, you are also starting up the CPU,
  hardware, maybe a BIOS, boot loader,  kernel, X, and whatever else you
  need, often most of this is before E17 is started.  Sure for some
  embedded devices there may not be a BIOS, or the linux kernel may BE the
  BIOS and boot loader.  You are still left with at least starting kernel
  and X before you even get to starting E17.

 Yes, I mean the time from power-on to a usable GUI and on our device,
 that would be:
 u-boot + kernel + kdrive + X apps
 Currently u-boot + kernel + kdrive take roughtly 3.x seconds without
 any optimization.
 I would like to make it boot up within 5 seconds from power-on to a
 usable state.  That would leave 1.x second for e to start...2

 
  I do remember a time when we managed to get the startup time of e17
  itself down to a fraction of a second on a typical desktop.  Maybe 5
  seconds tops on the sort of device you mentioned.  I don't know what it
  is these days.

 You mean e17 spends 5 seconds all by itself?  Hm... sounds like a
 daunting task ahead of me...


Look at the openmoko phone.

it take a lot of sec but just to boot the linux. When X starts, it takes
only few seconds. The hardware is not well designed so all graphical suff
are quite long. Despite this, 98% of the boot time is just to run the
linux, and starts the init process.

If it's a lightweight device, you could have a look to uClinux


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[E-devel] Difficulties to select a window, a clickable button, ..

2009-08-30 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi all,

I am experiencing a bug somewhere. I'm not sure this is in the e17 area...

I have some difficulties to focus on another window ot a button. I explain,
in a desk, I open an xterm, then I still can left click on the Desktop
under, and I open a second xterm. I can alt+ tab between both. But if I try
to focus with the mouse pointer, I see the prompt of the first one blinking
but not selecting the clicked window... and then, no more click possible on
the Desk.

It happens inside a window too... example : firefox If I am clicking inside
a tab, i can't directly click on another tab... I have to ctrl + tab or to
switch to another desktop and come back, and it's ok...
I found an other way to select the area, it's by clicking with the scroll
button (middle click) on the mouse, it focus on the area, I can do what I
want.

It's really enoying, imagine to save a file as...

right click on the link (popup opens)
middle click on the address box
middle click on a directory
selecting the google directory with left click
middle click on the Save button to select the button
left click on save...

Is it something which can be trace ? Do you have any clue on this ? mybe a
side effect from my config ?

(in focus setting I have :

- smooth focusing
-all new windows are focused

and yes to the 6 last box


I tried something else without success. I was having that on my old
computer, giving the fault to the old build... but this one is freshly
installed (e17 svn 42046) on a fresh and up to date debian sid.

Any other debian sid user arround ?

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[E-devel] Very small patch for etk/po/zh_CN.po

2009-08-27 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi all,

Here is a very small patch for a blocking po file while compiling etk.

If the file doesn't pass, you can find it here :
http://le-roux.info/temp/etk-po-zh_CN.patch



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+++ zh_CN.po	2009-08-27 22:20:19.0 +0200
@@ -102,7 +102,7 @@
 #: src/tools/etk_prefs/etk_prefs.c:57
 #, c-format
 msgid ARGUMENTS:\n
-msgstr 参数:
+msgstr 参数:\n
 
 #: src/tools/etk_prefs/etk_prefs.c:58
 #, c-format
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Re: [E-devel] meeting in Paris with Raster: restaurant proposal

2009-05-20 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi all,

Im on Paris only until next week end. Have a nice time !

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Beber be...@meleeweb.net wrote:

 Hi caro,

 Knowing this restaurant, that could only be Ok for me. Count me.

 Bertrand

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  for people who are in Paris Wednesday, the 27th, May, I propose a very
  good restaurant: Le Bistrot Dagorno (9 rue Dagorno, 75012 Paris). It's a
  very good restaurant (game food, like wild boar, hare, etc..., good wine)
 
  If you want to join, please reply to that mail (and cc me as i'm not
  subscribed to e-users ML).
 
  regards
 
  Vincent

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Re: [E-devel] Proposal: Enlightenment Weekly News

2009-05-20 Thread Steven Le Roux
   (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/40644) and a winlist plugin
   (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/40666).
  
   Sergey Semernin is working hard on E's file manager and it definitely
   pays off:
   E_fm2 now has full support for in-place renaming and custom
 per-directory
   backgrounds (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/40668).
   There have been a lot more patches from him which are or are not yet in
   SVN.
  
   Community News:
   ---
  
   Gustavo Barbieri is planning to rework the notification (libnotify)
   module and would like to drop the shelf-gadget of the module. If this
   feature is important to you, feel free to take part in the discussion
 on
   both mailinglists (notification module: how do you use it?).
  
   Massimiliano Calamelli started a Twitter-feed about E development.
   If you're not following the SVN commits (or probably even if) this is a
   great source for all sort of new stuff in or around E.
  
   Inofficial chances to meet E developers:
   Raster will be on a trip through Europe between may 19th and june 9th.
   For more information check the ML (berlin/paris/berne... who's
 around?)
   - and don't forget to bring your sticks!
   Gustavo will be at Ubuntu Dev Summit in Barcelona (19-31 May). Don't
 miss
   your chance to get your own SPANK SPANK shirt!
   
  
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Re: [E-devel] Anyone near Barcelona between 18-31 May?

2009-05-12 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri 
barbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys, I'll be at Ubuntu Developer Summit and another event between
 18 and 31 May so if anyone wants to drink beer and even get a
 ProFUSION T-Shirt with our lovely naughty programmer - go fix your
 code - SPANK SPANK SPANK, let me know :-)


Hi Gustavo,

Im there right now for a week and will try to see you :)

See you soon.

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Re: [E-devel] berlin/paris/berne... who's around?

2009-04-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
Sounds good to me for Paris ;)

Vincent, Cedric, Nicolas, Beber vous serez disponible?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
morlen...@gmx.net wrote:
 I'm living in Berlin and i want to beat you with a large stick! :)
 Well just drop me a note when you have time and we can have a cold tingly 
 beer.

 Greets,
 Brian

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 hallo! bonjour! hello!...

 just thought i'd drop this in. i'm heading to europe for a few weeks. 
 business,
 etc. and i'll be visiting a few spots there. here's my plan:

 berlin:  may 19-22
 paris:   may 25-30
 berne:   may 31-june 7
 zurich:  june 8-9

 these are rough dates - but relatively certain... if anyone wants to grab 
 some
 beer/food/wine/whatever or just beat me with a large stick for having made 
 your
 life hell for the past few years here's your chance! get your sticks 
 ready!

 if you live in these places and are around at the time and up for mischief...
 let me know!

 pants on! (or skirts... whatever tickles your fancy).
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Re: [E-devel] [RFC] Eina need to be renamed

2008-10-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
elisa
enora
ecorce
elnino  //pretty strong sence

neper : my prefered, because : it's the mathematics constant e :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neper  or
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(nombre)

expo
elimine
epod (french play)
ephy
e!
ekern
eon
enode

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Re: [E-devel] [RFC] Eina need to be renamed

2008-10-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/10/22 muzzle [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 updated,
 those who have already voted can cast a new vote checking no opinion
 on the options they have already voted for.
 http://vote.superduperapps.com/polls/vote/l92V6gd4Ic_g7RKf

 If you want I can post the link to the admin page here, so that people
 can add new options by themselves (danger: the admin page let you
 delete others' people vote).

 BTW, poll results are here:
 http://vote.superduperapps.com/polls/show/l92V6gd4Ic_g7RKf

 Bye,

 Emme

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neper could be eneper if e is mandatory :)


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Re: [E-devel] E17 relese

2008-09-18 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/9/18 Luca De Marini [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The default answer you'll receive here or anywhere lese is: it will be
 released when it's ready. No more info. Don't ever expect it :(
 bye,

 Luca




 2008/9/18 jude ui [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  When do you guys think E17 - the final relese will be done?
  What's the development status?



try it, you'll see it's already released :)



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Re: [E-devel] [enthrall] add lossless encoding

2008-07-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/7/22 Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Hey,

 I always found that theora is not a very good codec (old technology based
 on a On2's codec named VP3). I wanted to add a lossless encoding so that the
 resulting video can be then compressed with the codec you want, with the
 options you want (mencoder, avidemux, transcode, etc... can do that). For
 example using x264 with awesome options. That codec is great.

 So I added the lossless encoding in enthrall using ffmpeg. Just give .avi
 as suffix of the video filename. If you give .ogg as suffix, theora will be
 used. If you use .mp4 (or .mov, they are the same), or mkv or other
 container, ffmpeg will decide which codec to use (usually, mpeg4-2 codec
 (xvid or their own mpeg4-2 codec)).


great 





 The archive contains the diff and 2 files to add.

 No objections to add it in cvs ?

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Re: [E-devel] WinCE status and video

2008-06-13 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/6/13 Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Hey,

 here is the status of the Windows CE port. We can run the core efl (eet,
 evas, ecore, embryo and edje) on some devices (Ipaq H6300, H3970 and
 HX4700). It seems that ashikase's pda has some problems with edje, but
 expedite is running on his device.

 Also, raoul has made a video of an edje that he wrote some time ago. Here
 it is (run on the HX4700, in vga, not qvga !) :

 http://www.calaos.fr/pub/moshi_wince.avi

 regards

 Vincent


great work !! I didn't know wince was looking so ugly ;)




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Re: [E-devel] Security problem with e17 screen lock and startx

2008-04-07 Thread Steven Le Roux
And I have a little joke about that...

A day, I installed a debian, move to unstable, then install deps, then E
with entrance.

I log in... hmm SHIT ! xterm didn't come with xorg ! :) because of entrance,
I was not able to do anything... no apps, not openssh-server installed
yet... funny case :). It was a packaged version from alphagemini to test it,
but as is seems to not have libpam support, you can't unlock your desktop
lock... so I basicaly installed a new one from source...

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:54:39 +0200 giggz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 this is not a problem with e or e17 - every wm and desktop environment
 will
 have this problem. just don't use startx! use a login manager (gdm, kdm,
 xdm,
 entrance etc.) stop using startx! just stop! anyone silly enough to use
 startx
 deserves the pain they get. u logged into a text console - silly person
 that
 did that.

  Hi,
 
  Here is a known security problem :
   - launch an e17 session with startx
   - lock the screen (with ctrl + l) in order to avoid that others people
  can use our session
   - someone (a bad one) kills the x server with (ctrl+alt+backspace)
   - and get the an opened user session...
   - or switch to the tty1 with  ctrl+alt+f? and then ctrl+c the xserver.
 
  Is it possible to forbid the ctrl+alt+backspace and ctrl+alt+f? under
  e17 lockscreen ?
  I don't want to use these server flags
  Option DontVTSwitch True
  Option DontZap True
  to disable it.
 
  This problem doesn't appear with xdm, gdm, kdm, entrance...because the
  xserver restarts automaticly, but for the addicted startx users this
  problem is a problem.
 
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Re: [E-devel] 2 high level E bugs

2007-09-23 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:42:12 +0200, Michel BRIAND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 1/ when VLC goes full screen nothing happens, the main window stays
 in place and the fullscreen window is invisible... Restart E and the
 fullscreen window with the movie appears in the background
 
 this does happens randomly with kmplayer / gmplayer but everytime with
 VLC
 
 Best regards,
 Michel
 

Hi, 

I experienced the same problem and the only troubleshooting I found was to 
restart E too...

I don't use kmplayer but sometime gmplayer, and manytime mplayer but I never 
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Re: [E-devel] new project for e17

2007-07-16 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:11:42 +0200, Michele Abbrescia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Now Eppp handles only modem+ppp, but i'm working to manage
 ethernet+pppoe and mobile phones.
 I think that Eppp's code can be used to create another application that
 works like a network manager, but it is another kind of project.
 
 Regards.
 
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There is already Exalt as  network manager,  isn't it ? (perhaps a merge from 
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