[e-users] OpenGL rendering
Good day! I was wondering, if anybody is using E17 with OpenGL rendering engine as default? Is it stable in any way? At least workable? =) _ Best whishes, Kit --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment - FreeBSD 4.10 problem
On 1/14/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They didn't mention the version of FreeBSD though ;-) i've added a %a format check to eet's configure.in - it will bitch before u get to compile eet (actually simply refuse to compile) if your os doesnt support it - so u'll know for sure if u update from cvs. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) Hi: Is there a way I can workaround this? I'm trying out various options like vstr library, trio, etc, but can't get through :( Has anybody succeeded in getting E17 to work on FreeBSD 4.x? -- Gopalarathnam Venkatesan http://gopalarathnam.com/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:41:48 +1100 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Скворцов Никита wrote: Good day! I was wondering, if anybody is using E17 with OpenGL rendering engine as default? Is it stable in any way? At least workable? =) It's not ready yet. Rest assured there will be plenty of discussion on the topic when it is ready :) it never will be. move on. next. Dan -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS --If you are not the CanIt administrator and you think this message is spam, please give the id 36512 and magic value 31ffa5bbab1e to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be marked as spam. Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 36512) is spam: Spam: http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=si=36512m=31ffa5bbab1e Not spam:http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=ni=36512m=31ffa5bbab1e Forget vote: http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=fi=36512m=31ffa5bbab1e -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:41:48 +1100 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Скворцов Никита wrote: Good day! I was wondering, if anybody is using E17 with OpenGL rendering engine as default? Is it stable in any way? At least workable? =) It's not ready yet. Rest assured there will be plenty of discussion on the topic when it is ready :) it never will be. move on. next. Ah, so the discussion has already started! :) -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering
Geoffrey a écrit : Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:41:48 +1100 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Скворцов Никита wrote: Good day! I was wondering, if anybody is using E17 with OpenGL rendering engine as default? Is it stable in any way? At least workable? =) It's not ready yet. Rest assured there will be plenty of discussion on the topic when it is ready :) it never will be. move on. next. Ah, so the discussion has already started! :) Yup :) How far is the implementation of Hardware/Software OpenGL rendering? Of course the most interesting part of it would be the hardware opengl. I must say that DR17 is a performance-eater, except if you cut off lots of effects... Which is sad. I got 1,3 Ghz Banias, and i can't stand the unresponsiveness while working at 600 Mhz FL:o --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] patch for entrance problem
Hi, at the end of this mail you can find a patch that fixed the problem I mentioned in my previous mail. I want to use the chance to say thank you to everyone that has helped to find the problem. My thank you goes to ... oh nobody has helped me ... so thank you Gerald. Gerald --- evas/src/lib/file/evas_module.c.orig2006-01-30 08:54:50.0 +0100 +++ evas/src/lib/file/evas_module.c 2006-01-30 08:56:53.0 +0100 @@ -53,15 +53,17 @@ Evas_List *paths = NULL; /* 1. ~/.evas/modules/ */ - prefix = getenv(HOME); - path = malloc(strlen(prefix) + 1 + strlen(/.evas/modules)); - path[0] = 0; - strcpy(path, prefix); - strcat(path, /.evas/modules); - if (evas_file_path_exists(path)) - paths = evas_list_append(paths,path); - else - free(path); + if ((prefix = getenv(HOME)) != NULL) + { + path = malloc(strlen(prefix) + 1 + strlen(/.evas/modules)); + path[0] = 0; + strcpy(path, prefix); + strcat(path, /.evas/modules); + if (evas_file_path_exists(path)) + paths = evas_list_append(paths,path); + else + free(path); + } #ifdef HAVE_DLADDR { --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E16: run script on startup?
On Jan.30 19h35, Bradley Reed wrote : On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:28:22 -0500 Michael Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Can anyone tell me (or point to a reference) on how to get E16 to run a script on startup (and on shutdown if possible). The README-0.16.8 file in /e16/e/docs/ (from cvs) explains how to use session scripts. but in short, make the directories: $HOME/.e16/Init $HOME/.e16/Start $HOME/.e16/Stop Any executable scripts in these directories will be run when e16 starts, restarts, and shuts down. Great ! Thanks, I wanted to know this, too :) Evan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [e-users] E16: run script on startup?
Evan et al $HOME/.e16/Init $HOME/.e16/Start $HOME/.e16/Stop Note that this is new for 0.16.8. It does not work with 0.16.7 (which I am using). It looks like getting my personal theme moved over to 0.16.8 may be a major headache. If so, I may just go to E17. Mike --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E16: run script on startup?
Michael Hughes wrote: Evan et al $HOME/.e16/Init $HOME/.e16/Start $HOME/.e16/Stop Note that this is new for 0.16.8. It does not work with 0.16.7 (which I am using). It looks like getting my personal theme moved over to 0.16.8 may be a major headache. If so, I may just go to E17. Dive on in the water's great! -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:37:40 +0100 Florent Thiery [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Yup :) How far is the implementation of Hardware/Software OpenGL rendering? Of course the most interesting part of it would be the hardware opengl. I must say that DR17 is a performance-eater, except if you cut off lots of effects... Which is sad. I got 1,3 Ghz Banias, and i can't stand the unresponsiveness while working at 600 Mhz it works like a charom on my 1ghz pentium-m even when it clocks down to 600mhz to save battery. i don't see whatt hey problem is? i dont see it being unresponsive ever - UNLESS the disk has spun down and needs to spin up to read data - that's a matter of e paging everything off disk as much as possible (to save memory) and really relying on disk cache from there on in to keep it at a moments access away. opengl wont happen. 1. it cannto do shaped masks sanely. to do this we'd need a gl frontbuffer with alpha (can do) then a way to read just the alpha convert to a mask, and punt back as a shape - the problem coems with reading the alpha pixels. glReadPixels() is about the same speed as contiental drift in my experience. every driver i have ever played with goes through one of the slowest paths possible reading pixals to client memory because its not considered an important thing to accelerate as it not only has to read pixels off card to system ram, it also is just not used much as this alone has inherent slowdowns. also gl requires TONNES of video ram - every window with gl in it will rEQUIRE the equivalent of its size in video ram IN ADDITION to all images in the textures. every client window (every xterm, mailer window, firefox whatever) will need its dimentions in video ram. ok- lets stake an example. we have a web browser 1000x1000 pixels, now 20 xterms each 500x300 pixels, another set of windows (miscellanous ones) with a total surfacfe area of lets say another 1000x1000 pixels. now the desktop bg (1600x1200) this woudl be 19Mb of video ram gone. this doesnt include the source textures (likely another few mb). basically every gl window will REQUIRE a backbuffer if we likely it or not as rendering to afrontbuffer is just not sane. this doesn't include the other problems with gl - like big drosp in performance due to fat lock contention between the xserer and the wm sicne gl goes via direct rendering. if u are doing combinations of 2d and 3d u will see things stutter and jerk. so - forget it. the gl engine also can't handle multiple contexts correctly atm (ie more than 1 gl window) and share textures between them - i tried to make it wokr in theory but it seesm to have issues and frankly - i have neither the time nor inclination to fix it - so this alone bars it from ever working. now as i was saying - forget it. i am sick to death of having this discussion every few weeks - repeatedly. either setup up - learn to code and fix the engine yourself and address these issues in the gl engine AND in all the gl drivers - or accept what u get. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] exebuf?
Preytell what is exebuf ? -- The only constancy is change itself. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Fredrick P. Brooks, Jr. Roland A. Wilcher -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering
OpenGL? Just say NO! Think I'll have a good look at the FAO and see if it is adequate. pgppDoy2ffXyH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] How do you make the pager wrap?
Martin you should be able to change it using the Martin 'enlightenment_remote' features of key-bindings. Just look at Martin the way ctrl-alt-arrow works, as it wrappes around the pager, Martin which shift-alt-arrow as you mentioned doesn't. Oooh, it is SOOO CLOSE! I rebound SHIFT|ALT|Left to desk_linear_flip_by -1 and now it wraps from left to right, but it wraps to the previous line. I'm hoping to get this to wrap from left to right on the same line, the way the Enlightenment-16 pager does. Any suggestions? Thanks! Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] exebuf?
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:41:04 -0500 roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Preytell what is exebuf ? its a 1 line executor. hit alt+secape to activate (by default). how type in the name of an application or executable. you can use tab-completion to complete along the way. above and below appear possible matches (and other funky matchings based on descriptions and comments of applications installed). u can hit up/down arrow to select a listed match (above are apps in the .eap db and below are raw command-line executables that are found, with an icon if they match an eap application). hit enter to select and execute (and the box pops down). hit escape to abort. -- The only constancy is change itself. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Fredrick P. Brooks, Jr. Roland A. Wilcher -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
Ok - sorry for being a bit quiet. I've had the flu and have been out of any energy to do anything over the last 4 days or so. I've let this thread move along and see what people have to say. It seems there is sufficient support to make this happen - and since we have bandwidth and hosting provided for - the only burden on us is getting hardware together. ok - i've taken a stab at it here are 2 examples (Taken from dell because its easy to select things and geta price immediately): PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB 667MHz DDR RAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives, 24x speed CD. Standard next business day on site warranty support (nothing special) = $2744 PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM, SCSI Raid Controller, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM. Standard next business day on site warranty support (nothing special) = $4272 This is a SAMPLE. I personally would take the first option - cheaper, likely overall the same spee (depends what u are doing though). ie faster memory bus, but less l2 cache, but a tiny bit more ghz. 7200v1rpm - etc. anyway - do other peolp eant to investigate options elsewhere? NB: to people offering i have a raid controller you can use or i may have a spare cpu - that's great - thanks, but really impractical. everyone will need to pack aup the hw - send it somewhere to be built, then there is no warranty or easy replacements later down the line - and hassles of things like car no the right form factor for the case or other issues you have when dealing with hw building. it'as simply easier and faster to just order it all together from somewhere like Dell, HP, Sun, etc. and then we know we get new HW that comes with warranty (in Dell's case 3 years - ys it breaks sometimes, but they DO come and fix it - on site. I have had them fix my laptop motherboard twice in 3 years - next day on site, no hassles). Anyway - so what do you guys think? to me it seesm as if we have a target of about $3500 to meet at this stage (we need some extra for shipping and handling, and then some extra in the kitty for when warranty runs out and we need new parts or we need to ship someone up to the server to fix it etc. or whatever - i also just like over-estimating costs and coiming out with a pleasant surprise) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] pager is showing iconified windows
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:08:26 +0100 Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Mine does it too, it's really annoying, it has been doing that for a while now, I'd even say for months... Gabriel Jason Edson wrote: My pager shows thesame thing. If I have a window then minimize it the pager still shows it. It's been that way for me since the module configuration dialog showed up. I've been rebuilding everyday from thinktux.net for about a week. I'm going to rebuild right now and I will report agian if it's fixed. i don't see iconified windows in my pager either. i can't reproduce this. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] XIM doesn't work in e17
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:34:21 +0900 (JST) Yasufumi Haga [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello I upgraded all EFL and e17 this morning (Jan. 14), and I've noticed just now that XIM doesn't work in e17. More precisely, I can't input Japanese via XIM on apps like mozilla, xchat, etc. while I can do it on kterm (Kanji terminal emulator). XIM works fine on those apps in e16. Restarting e17 doesn't help. Rebooting my system doesn't help, either. is it still borken? this soundts like gtk apps are not honoring xim stuff for some reason - ie environemtn variables inherited are being ignored? btw - for me this works just fine. at the top of my .xsession file i have: export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 export XMODIFIERS=@im=kinput2 yes - weird, but it works well :) (you can just change the lang for yourself of course!) Any help is appreciated. Regards. --- Yasufumi Haga [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage3.nifty.com/peterpan/ fingerprint:0EFA 299A BC32 7D68 1FEF BA2B 804E 9B15 C4F0 F9F0 -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:45:04 + Martin Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello, where supposed to get deleted had not been. thats not the cvs mirror :) haha. well why not use subversion? svn is the better alternative probably, i agree. Though the problem here is that sourceforge is (still) using cvs and i assume that 90% of the people programming are still used to it. it absoultely is NOT a better alternative. upstream dev repositories are cvs. having to manage a DIFFERENt repository system as a mirror is asking for trouble. well enlightenment.freedesktop.org provides tarballs that get made whevere cvs is kind of stable and workable every week or 2 - but people barely use it. somehow people are addicted to HAVING to use cvs and get the latest. :/ That might be partially the fault of install scripts... I agree. I even wrote my own script for such a purpose. It's much easier to run a script that takes care of downloading, updating, compiling, and installing all in one shot. Just run the script and you're done. And I only update about once every 2 weeks or so. Guess that's a good time window. Is there a way to have the script download the tarballs (I'm still pretty new to the shell and scripts)? And is everything in those tarballs? It seems like the cvs has a lot more applications and libs than just those 14 tarballs. you could probably download using 'wget' or 'curl' (which one you like better). Both are commandline fetching tools, just paste em the url and they will happily fetch it. They can even fetch whole websites so better read the manpages first before you actually implement using them. Martin -- Martin Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG-Encrypted mail preferred, KEY: 0D459A72 -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Disappearing icons
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:51:07 +1030 Lachlan Gunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I'm using E17, but as of late I have found that newly-added icons will disappear after a restart. Space for them is allocated, but nothing appears in the space (although it is still responsive to mouse clicks. A screenshot showing this is at http://users.on.net/~flynne/ibar.png. Has anyone else come across this problem before? There is somethnig up with the eap cache files and their generation and consistancy checks. i am mulling over different ways to tackle all of this right now. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:44:53 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Daniel Kasak wrote: Pascal Schwarz wrote: We got some problems with our mirror, we need to get another server. Forgive me if this is a silly suggestion, but how about having a daily cvs snapshot tarball thing shared via p2p? This is for re-compilers only - of course developers still need a cvs server. My thinking as well (see my previous post on bittorrent/cvs) I'd give up my cvs access in order to reduce the load on the cvs server for the sake of the developers. that might work - though i think we will need a lot more users to make it really work right. u will still have cvs junkies. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How do you make the pager wrap?
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:42:40 -0800 David Wuertele [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Martin you should be able to change it using the Martin 'enlightenment_remote' features of key-bindings. Just look at Martin the way ctrl-alt-arrow works, as it wrappes around the pager, Martin which shift-alt-arrow as you mentioned doesn't. Oooh, it is SOOO CLOSE! I rebound SHIFT|ALT|Left to desk_linear_flip_by -1 and now it wraps from left to right, but it wraps to the previous line. I'm hoping to get this to wrap from left to right on the same line, the way the Enlightenment-16 pager does. Any suggestions? Thanks! you can't - e17 has no wraparound for the thing u want like 16 did. it's limited to the array bounds with no option for wrap around. yes u are going to ask for it as an option - no plans. we have enouhg stuff to do for now. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Hidden Desktop
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:57:02 +0100 Oliver Pahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, Do you think its possible to create something like a hidden Desktop, only reachable by a keycombo, but not visible in the Tray? I`d like one of these to hold my not so frequently used apps there :) Do you think its possible? it is possible with enough code. sure. it isn't going to happen as it's not on the TODO list for e17. u will either need to do it yourself and send a patch, or wait until e18 and when we are open for feature requests then. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Amazing!
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:20:59 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:54:52 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:31:04 +0100 Christian Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: The AppDirs I know are pretty simple, firstly there is a file called .DirIcon which contains a small Icon that is displayed instead of a simple Directory-Icon. Upon double click this directory is scanned for an executable file called AppRun. If it doesn't exist, the directory is just opened like any other normal directory, if it exists the file is executed instead. Any drag'n'drop operation to this directory will execute AppRun too, but will give the pathname of the dragged item as argument. Optionally there is an AppInfo.xml found in such a directory that can be used to display information about the app, such as author, version number, homepage and a very short description... ok- but where's an EXAMPLE? like a package that uses it? even a brief spec? ROX-filer is a package that uses it. There is also 0-install that goes with ROX-filer, a very interesting combination. hmm - very unconventional - ok. but i don't see us supporting this any time soon - as well,. basic file browsing and managemtrn is still borken. i wouldnt even think this will make it for e17 - maybe e18 or e19. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:45:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:47:04 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: OpenGL? Just say NO! Think I'll have a good look at the FAO and see if it is adequate. you assume people read faq's :) I assume that you and I can scream RTFF! at people, then ignore them for a bit. B-) and i perused the e17 faq - nothing there about opengl and e17 :) Guess that's a not adequate then. pgpG0PojH8AXb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] pager is showing iconified windows
Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Rasterman) [Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:11:38 +0900]: On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:08:26 +0100 Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Mine does it too, it's really annoying, it has been doing that for a while now, I'd even say for months... Gabriel Jason Edson wrote: My pager shows thesame thing. If I have a window then minimize it the pager still shows it. It's been that way for me since the module configuration dialog showed up. I've been rebuilding everyday from thinktux.net for about a week. I'm going to rebuild right now and I will report agian if it's fixed. i don't see iconified windows in my pager either. i can't reproduce this. Only time I have experienced a ghost image in the pager is when I have gaim open, switch to a desktop that doesn't have gaim on it, use the gaim tray icon to minimize it to the tray. The pager does not update to reflect the fact that gaim is now completely off screen. Even flipping back to the desktop gaim was on, the pager on still shows the window is visible on screen even though I can't see it any more. Maybe this is an alltogether different issue? -- _ (\o/) Chad 'v3rt1g0' Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_\ Milwaukee, WI (USA) [4 8 15 16 23 42] ...staring up at heaven from the bottom of a glass - Savatage --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] pager is showing iconified windows
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:53:07 -0600 Chad Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Rasterman) [Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:11:38 +0900]: On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:08:26 +0100 Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Mine does it too, it's really annoying, it has been doing that for a while now, I'd even say for months... Gabriel Jason Edson wrote: My pager shows thesame thing. If I have a window then minimize it the pager still shows it. It's been that way for me since the module configuration dialog showed up. I've been rebuilding everyday from thinktux.net for about a week. I'm going to rebuild right now and I will report agian if it's fixed. i don't see iconified windows in my pager either. i can't reproduce this. Only time I have experienced a ghost image in the pager is when I have gaim open, switch to a desktop that doesn't have gaim on it, use the gaim tray icon to minimize it to the tray. The pager does not update to reflect the fact that gaim is now completely off screen. Even flipping back to the desktop gaim was on, the pager on still shows the window is visible on screen even though I can't see it any more. Maybe this is an alltogether different issue? When I was running Engage I had some problems with ghosts! Are you running Engage when this problem appears? If you are, try disable the module! \\troback -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! http://www.troback.com - --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] pager is showing iconified windows
Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:12:17 +0100]: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:53:07 -0600 Chad Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only time I have experienced a ghost image in the pager is when I have gaim open, switch to a desktop that doesn't have gaim on it, use the gaim tray icon to minimize it to the tray. The pager does not update to reflect the fact that gaim is now completely off screen. Even flipping back to the desktop gaim was on, the pager on still shows the window is visible on screen even though I can't see it any more. Maybe this is an alltogether different issue? When I was running Engage I had some problems with ghosts! Are you running Engage when this problem appears? If you are, try disable the module! \\troback negative, I havn't run with engage in months. Thank you though. I'm assuming it's a more generic error than what application is acting as the system tray. -- _ (\o/) Chad 'v3rt1g0' Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_\ Milwaukee, WI (USA) [4 8 15 16 23 42] ...staring up at heaven from the bottom of a glass - Savatage --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] pager is showing iconified windows
Chad Kittel wrote: Only time I have experienced a ghost image in the pager is when I have gaim open, switch to a desktop that doesn't have gaim on it, use the gaim tray icon to minimize it to the tray. The pager does not update to reflect the fact that gaim is now completely off screen. Even flipping back to the desktop gaim was on, the pager on still shows the window is visible on screen even though I can't see it any more. Maybe this is an alltogether different issue? When I was running Engage I had some problems with ghosts! Are you running Engage when this problem appears? If you are, try disable the module! negative, I havn't run with engage in months. Thank you though. I'm assuming it's a more generic error than what application is acting as the system tray. I can confirm this using itray (don't like engage) The ghost is an actual dead window, and not just in the pager.. have to click a few times on the gaim icon to get rid of it once I switch back. It does indeed seem related to something generic, and not the actual tray icon.. I've seen the bug with xine's UI (g key) once .. I just didn't think it was an e bug, and I never saw it again. Cheers, -- Morten :wq --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] XIM doesn't work in e17
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:14:15 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:34:21 +0900 (JST) Yasufumi Haga | [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: | | Hello | | I upgraded all EFL and e17 this morning (Jan. 14), and I've | noticed just now that XIM doesn't work in e17. | More precisely, I can't input Japanese via XIM on apps like | mozilla, xchat, etc. while I can do it on kterm (Kanji terminal | emulator). XIM works fine on those apps in e16. | Restarting e17 doesn't help. Rebooting my system doesn't help, | either. | | is it still borken? this soundts like gtk apps are not honoring xim stuff for | some reason - ie environemtn variables inherited are being ignored? btw - for | me this works just fine. at the top of my .xsession file i have: export | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 export XMODIFIERS=@im=kinput2 | | yes - weird, but it works well :) (you can just change the lang for yourself of | course!) Thanks a lot for your reply. After posting the previous mail for this problem, I tried various things to solve the problem. I finally found what caused the xim failure. I had upgraded e17 before occuring the problem, and then I executed enlightenment_remote -lang-set command with an argument: ja_JP.UTF8 to set up Japanese environment. This argument caused the xim failure. It should correctly be ja_JP.UTF-8, but I actually used ja_JP.UTF8 as a value of the argument. Even if I used the wrong value as an argument of -lang-set, the menu from the root window, for example, was normally shown in Japanese. This made me consider the environment normal. But actually xim didn't work. So I felt it weird. This problem was solved by specifying the correct value ja_JP.UTF-8. In other words, -lang-set doesn't complain at all if the argument is wrong, and the command with the wrong argument sets up PARTIALLY normal language environment for me. There is another one. -lang-list now shows a list containing available langs such as ja for Japanese. But if I use ja as an argument of -lang-set, my desktop is still English environment. It doesn't change my desktop from English to Japanese. I still(?) need to use ja_JP.UTF-8 as a value of -lang-set to set up Japanese desktop. Thanks a lot for your help. Regards. --- Yasufumi Haga [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage3.nifty.com/peterpan/ fingerprint:0EFA 299A BC32 7D68 1FEF BA2B 804E 9B15 C4F0 F9F0 pgpgdzd6NrtJX.pgp Description: PGP signature