[eug-lug]gentoo install problems
I tried to install Gentoo on my laptop last night but my CDROM is flaky... sometimes it can read from it but sometimes it fails. The bad part is when doing something like mke2fs and it fails, then something (bash?) remembers that and doesn't try to spin up the CD again. Kbob pointed out this set of instructions... Installation from a boot floppy HOWTO http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=8690 So now my task is to find a good floppy boot disk that has PCMCIA and network modules. Any recommendations? Should I build my own? I can make a kernel for generic x86 with pcmcia and build a rescue floppy, can't I? -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems
On 20040324.1518, Cory Petkovsek said ... What's on the laptop right now? If it is any distribution of linux, just do a bootstrap install over the network. The gentoo install howto will tell you how to. ;) Well, I *used to* have Debian on it. It was in a bad state so I thought I'd try upgrading it with Gentoo. But I already changed the partitions and other things, so bootstrapping won't work anymore. Also, I wouldn't recommend gentoo for a laptop. Long compiling times will heat up the laptop more than it was designed for. I was going to go for a stage3 install just to try it out. But that leads me to another question... instead of syncing and having to compile all kinds of stuff as the install gets old, can I just grab the new stage3 packages, say, when 2004.1 comes out and untar it? Would that function like an easy upgrade or no? I basically want to surf the web and ssh to my workstation. I doubt I'll even keep personal files on there so come upgrade time, I could even scrap the whole thing if need be. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]CD Burning via IDE/ATAPI
On 20040322.1507, Jacob Meuser said ... On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:07:15PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: According to the 2.6.x kernels, using ide-scsi isn't the way to go anymore when burning discs. I've compiled my kernel so the burner is in IDE/ATAPI mode, but can't seem to burn images like I used to be able to. I can detect my drive ok[1]. But can't record to it for some reason[2]. cdrecord -dev=ATAPI -scanbus 0,1,0 1) '_NEC' 'NR-7900A' '1.23' Removable CD-ROM cdrecord -dev=ATAPI speed=16 -v -audio -dao *.wav cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder. have you tried dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 or dev=/dev/hdx ? That seems to work. Thanks. :) ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]CD Burning via IDE/ATAPI
According to the 2.6.x kernels, using ide-scsi isn't the way to go anymore when burning discs. I've compiled my kernel so the burner is in IDE/ATAPI mode, but can't seem to burn images like I used to be able to. I can detect my drive ok[1]. But can't record to it for some reason[2]. Has anyone tried this yet? Maybe cdrecord isn't the tool to use when doing ATAPI burns? Thanks, Rob [1] cdrecord -dev=ATAPI -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a26 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha. Warning: There may be fatal problems. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) * 0,1,0 1) '_NEC' 'NR-7900A' '1.23' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * [2] cdrecord -dev=ATAPI speed=16 -v -audio -dao *.wav Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a26 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha. Warning: There may be fatal problems. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 0 cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder. cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: fatal error CDB: 00 C0 00 00 00 00 cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 200s ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes
Any gnome users here? Now that Debian has Gnome 2.4 I wanted to give it a try. But apparently I've got old gnome 1.4 stuff and also older gnome 2.4 stuff laying around. I tried rm -rf'ing my ~/.gnome* directories. But when I startx and launch gnome, it still remembers some of my old settings. I'd like to start fresh and see what the default is and tweak from there. Any clues on how to do that? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes
Yep, I've tried garnome... that's why I have leftover cruft I want to get ride of. I was trying 2.4 before it made it into Debian testing. But now that Debian has it via apt-get, I want to clear the slate and start fresh. In fact, after trying some more, it still brings up my background and other setttings, and something about the panel is misconfigured and won't even launch. -Rob On 20040308.1103, Larry Price said ... you might want to check out GARNOME http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ It's a set of build scripts used by (among others ) the gnome UI usability people the lnx-bbc people are quite fond of it. I've had my own adventures with gnome lately which showed up some limitations of the ports system at least when it comes to gnome (think of the worst hosage you can get with recursive make and unresolved dependencies and then throw in things like libintl.so.4 not being recognised :P ) On the other hand gnome has been my home desktop for a while now. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes
On 20040308.1643, Grigsby, Garl said ... Don't forget to wipe out settings from your window manager (.sawfish, .metacity, etc). Yep, I got those too. :) ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]WAP for sale
I have a Wireless Access Point that I no longer need. It was in use until just a few moments ago and works fine. I'm replacing it with another WAP that has a built-in firewall and network management stuff. Model: DWL-1000AP Type: 802.11b (11Mbps on 2.4 GHz) Asking $25 (OBO). -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe
What's bagle.j? On 20040303.1252, Larry Price said ... #bagle.j :0 B * SEVMTDMyLmRsbABz***aGx3YXBpLmRsbAB1 /dev/null remove the *** in the middle of the string ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Wide Open Magazine
RedHat is starting up a magazine. Due out in March 2004... https://www.redhatmagazine.com/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]recommendation wanted: PCI wireless adapter
I'm looking for a PCI based wireless adapter to run on a linux box. Can anyone recommend one that works well under linux? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]portknocking
This sounds like security through obscurity, but it's an interesting idea. Execute the correct knock, and a port opens... http://www.portknocking.org/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]TV input cards
I got a WinTV 250 card, which supposedly work well, but haven't been able to get it to work. I didn't try all that hard either, yet. It has S-Video inputs. Not sure how audio gets in but I'm guessing via the soundcard. http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr250_datasheet.htm Supposedly there's an ivtv driver I need, and enable some kernel stuff. Last time I followed a recipe I found it didn't work. I've been meaning to do it again but priorities... I subscribed to the MythTV email list and this was a common question and had lots of good feedback. I'd look at their archives to get some tips on cards. They also mention deals or rebates on cards as they come up usually... http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users/ OR http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/ -Rob On 20040225.0800, Bob Miller said ... I would like to start playing around with a TV input card for Linux. I'm having trouble finding concrete information on cards that work well, so I'm asking here. What TV input cards are you using, and where did you get them? Since we don't have any TV reception here, the source will have to be a DIRECTV receiver. That means that I'd rather use composite video or S-video inputs than RF/coax. Do TV cards have those inputs? If so, do I use the audio in on the sound card, or do they have audio in too? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]procmail help
Does procmail work from top down? Is the idea that X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\* catches 7 and higher. Then I can put: X-Spam-Level: \*\*\* to catch 3 and higher into a might be spam folder? Thanks, Rob On 20040215.0919, Cooper Stevenson said ... Rob, Here's a working procmail code snippet for you to work with: --Begin Recipee- :0fw * 256000 | spamc # Mails with a score of 9 or higher are almost certainly spam (with 0.05% # false positives according to rules/STATISTICS.txt). Let's put them in a # different mbox. (This one is optional.) :0 * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* /var/spool/mail/almost-certainly-spam --End Recipee- Hope this helps! ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]autolearn=yes?
On 20040217.0058, Bob Crandell said ... 2) You will notice autolearn=no on the last line. How do I make it say autolearn=yes ? BTW, the score doesn't make any difference here. Look in 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam n.nn(default: 12.0) The score threshold above which a mail has to score, to be fed into SpamAssassin's learning systems auto- matically as a spam message. Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the header, and 3 points from the body to auto-learn as spam. Therefore, the minimum working value for this option is 6. The default threshold for autolearn is = 12 for spam, = .1 for ham. You can lower it in your user configuration file: ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]procmail help
Hello, As I get inundated with spam, I'm changing my server settings a little so I have less to deal with. I was getting a couple megabytes of spam in my spam folder every 2-3 days. After reading up on Spamassassin, I'd like to do something like the following in procmail: Spam score of 10 or more: send to /dev/null Spam score of = 4 and 10: Drop in my spam folder for analysis Spam score of = 1 and 4 : Drop in might be spam folder I may tweak those numbers as I learn what goes in there. My idea was to discard automatically messages that are definitely spam. Drop the probably spams in a folder for me to look at and also for me to train the system further. And drop might be spams in a separate folder to look for possible ham mails. Spamassassin actually puts stars in the header: X-Spam-Score: or something like that. So I'd have to do something similar to a switch in procmail? X-Spam-Score: * X-Spam-Score: ** X-Spam-Score: *** .mail/maybespam Can procmail do something like this? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Feeding spam to SpamAssassin
I get a lot of these types of emails. I question whether to feed them to spamassassin or not simply b/c they are a random list of words. It would see like it might do more harm than good. Is that a good assumption? Thanks, Rob - Forwarded message from Deana Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Deana Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:13:20 +0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: locoweed arena brawl coeducation barrack carload pupil allen latitude cheryl device incongruous kauffman peterson glaze preponderate huckleberry amerada cautious chime officemate baudelaire beauteous envy cognizant buckskin lars - End forwarded message - ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Kernel
Hello EUGLUGers, I don't know what would be the best way to go about this since the options list for kernels are quite long... but I often go through the kernel configuration and wonder if I shouldn't be using certain features. I feel like I know just enough to build my own kernel for my system and get the major parts working, but I also feel like there are some features I'm not quite sure about (eg: microcode support, local APIC support, CMD640 bugfix support, etc). There are the help pieces, but sometimes those aren't enough. I just discovered the 'Preemptable Kernel' option for the 2.6 kernel. Are there sources for highlights of normal configuration options for Intel based systems with more descriptive help? Or maybe it could be the topic of a meeting one day? -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora
Does Fedora Core Yarrow use the 2.6 kernel? If so, it might be the switch from OSS to ALSA. I'm struggling with that myself after I gave 2.6.0 a shot. I have my sound card compiled as modules and loaded but don't have sound. I've yet to tweak the mixer. Just an idea, Rob On 20031222.2004, Dirk Ouellette said ... I just upgraded from RH 9 to Fedora Core Yarrow and everything works fine except for xmms. It's there, it just won't play anything, but my interconnection from evolution to mozilla now works great, where before it didn't. I've got to get xmms working though, cause I use it a lot. Dirk ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap
Is there a way to set up imap so that it uses a different password than my user password? I'm cautious of sending passwords in plaintext and set up imap on port 993 so it uses SSL. But if I'm logging into Squirrelmail not using https, what's the point? I supposed I should look into compiling apache to use SSL as the preferred option. Any advice? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]pop3 - imap
I've got teapop set up on my FreeBSD server that handles my mail. I heard good things about IMAP and would like to also install SquirrelMail, which requires an IMAP server. Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP to IMAP? What is a good choice for an IMAP server? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap
I think I'll try the UW imap server. I'll have to figure out how to set this up using SSL similar to how I did it for POP, but I see that it has docs on this. Thanks all. -Rob On 20031218.1359, Rob Hudson said ... I've got teapop set up on my FreeBSD server that handles my mail. I heard good things about IMAP and would like to also install SquirrelMail, which requires an IMAP server. Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP to IMAP? What is a good choice for an IMAP server? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]linux 2.6.0 and nvidia drivers
I installed Linux 2.6.0 but apparently the module API changed enough that the nvidia driver installer no longer works. I found www.minion.de has patches but haven't quite gotten it to work... it compiled and loaded the module but startx dies on me. So I'm still tweaking... The new build of the kernel is impressive. I like the QT based configurator. It makes it much faster to configure the kernel. The make output is also cleaner, which is nice. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]linux 2.6.0 and nvidia drivers
Looks like I got it... I tried installing the 4620 beta nvidia drivers and followed the directions lower in the README that showed using the nvidia-installer and it seemed to work just fine. Very nice. The 4620 beta drivers also install a binary 'nvidia-settings' that look pretty nice... -Rob On 20031218.1649, Rob Hudson said ... I installed Linux 2.6.0 but apparently the module API changed enough that the nvidia driver installer no longer works. I found www.minion.de has patches but haven't quite gotten it to work... it compiled and loaded the module but startx dies on me. So I'm still tweaking... The new build of the kernel is impressive. I like the QT based configurator. It makes it much faster to configure the kernel. The make output is also cleaner, which is nice. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]bash command line - loop over a range
I've always wanted to know how to do this. It happens a lot here at work that things are named with numbers consecutively. And I often need to do this: cp graphic_1.gif graphic_text_1.gif for each graphic numbered 1 through 20, for example. I know I can do a bash thing on the command line: for i in graphic_* ; do something with $1 ; done But is there a way to do something like this?: for i in [1-20] ; do cp graphic_$1.gif graphic_text_$1.gif ; done It doesn't work but it seems like there should be an easy way to set up a range like that. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]bash command line - loop over a range
On 20031215.1241, Bob Miller said ... Rob Hudson wrote: But is there a way to do something like this?: for i in [1-20] ; do cp graphic_$1.gif graphic_text_$1.gif ; done It doesn't work but it seems like there should be an easy way to set up a range like that. #!/bin/sh for ((i = 7; i 14; i++)) do echo $i done Do $ info '(bash)Looping Constructs' for more -- er, info. As it were. I think I did try that, but didn't double the parens. Thanks! ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems
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[eug-lug]Wanted
I'm looking for a 1GHz or higher (not too much higher) CPU + motherboard if anyone has one they'd like to sell. Let me know, please. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Wanted
I thought it would be more, but you're right... I can get a lower end Athlon with motherboard and memory for about $150 at mwave.com. Thanks, Rob On 20031210.1117, jgw said ... You probably already know this, but I'd just pick something up at newegg.com. An Athlon 1.3ghz chip runs about $40. An Athlon XP 1.5ghz runs about $49. A motherboard for either chip probably isn't much more. /jgw ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]journaling filesystems
The next time I install Linux on my desktop, I plan on using a journaled filesystem. If you all could indulge me, I'd like to hear about what journaled filesystem you're running and how it fares. I'm thinking about ext3 simply b/c it seems like an easy switch from ext2, and looks like it doesn't even need to format the drive. XFS just got included in the 2.4 kernel... http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=107088371607817w=2 I think there is also ReiserFS. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116
In my /lib/modules/modprobe.conf file I have: alias char-major-116 snd I never understood fully but is this a character device related to sound? -Rob On 20031209.2210, Bob Crandell said ... Hi, What does: Can't locate module char-major-116 Dec 9 14:05:56 mine last message repeated 3 times mean? It is in /var/log/syslog. Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]renaming
There is a perl rename script that allows you to do something like:
# ren 's/^_/section/' *.mp3
I keep it in my bin directory. You can name it 'ren', or 'rename', or
whatever. I'll attach it.
-Rob
What is the #rename command to rename all of these files with
section_*.mp3, [as in section_1.mp3 for track00.mp3] and so on?
I've been told this before but I wiped my email files and man page is a
bit obscure.
Thanks
#!/usr/bin/perl
#Usage: ren perlexpr [files]
($op = shift) or die Usage: ren perlexpr [filenames]\n;
if ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) {
@ARGV = STDIN;
chop(@ARGV);
}
for (@ARGV) {
$was = $_;
eval $op;
die $@ if $@;
unless ($was eq $_) {
rename($was,$_) or die Unable to rename $was: $!\n;
}
}
=head1 NAME
Bren - use a perl expression to rename multiple files
=head1 SYNOPSIS
Bren perl_expression [files]
=head1 DESCRIPTION
BRen uses a perl expression to rename multiple files. For more information about
perl expressions, consult the perl man pages, FLearning Perl by Randal
Schwartz, FProgramming Perl by Larry Wall, or your local friendly
Perl programmer.
For example, to rename all files foo.* to bar.*, use
ren 's/foo/bar/;' foo.*
=head1 AUTHORS
Randal Schwartz, Larry Wall
=head1 DATE
October 11, 1996
=cut
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[eug-lug]kernel weblogs
Kerneltrap is hosting an aggregator for kernel weblogs[1] ala Planet Gnome[2]. [1] http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/1205 [2] http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/planetgnome/ -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]system rescue CD
It used to be that if you wanted to resize your partition to install Linux alongside Windows, people recommended getting a copy of Partition Magic. This CD includes QTParted, a partition magic clone which can do the same, along with a host of other tools. Anyone ever use it? http://www.sysresccd.org/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]system rescue CD
On 20031201.1419, Grigsby, Garl said ... Knoppix includes this utility as well. I have used it once with good results. Yes, I learned this recently as well. Someone pointed out that Knoppix has a slightly older version while the rescue CD keeps more current since the same person is a developer of both. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]open source applied outside of software
Wired: Open Source Everywhere Software is just the beginning open source is doing for mass innovation what the assembly line did for mass production. Get ready for the era when collaboration replaces the corporation. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.11/opensource_pr.html ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Does think-python still exist?
http://mailman.efn.org/mailman/listinfo/think_python On 20031121.0239, john fleming said ... -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Does think-python still exist? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]new disk in old server
On 20031112.1850, Mr O said ... Um, here I am. You shouldn't have any real trouble booting off your PCI card. As long as the BIOS sees it as a boot device you're in good hands. Linux will just see your drives as /dev/hde or higher. As for booting from SCSI it loads the drivers during the boot. The SCSI BIOS handles getting the drive going. Linux just needs to know where it is from there (ie: /dev/sda). My latest idea is to use the 6GB disk that's in there as the /boot, swap, and backup drive. Then the new drive as the OS and web directory drive on a PCI card. As for attaining full UDMA 100, keep dreaming. Unless you're striping a couple drives with 8Mb cache you'll never see near that performance. Kbob achieved over 90Mb/s that way. On average a 2Mb cache drive will yield about 40Mb/s and an 8Mb cache drive will yield upwards of 60Mb/s by itself. I didn't really mean actual throughput. Just that my motherboard has UDMA33 and I wanted to use the drive in UDMA100 mode, and I can't get that unless I use a PCI card with a new chipset. If your BIOS actually sees 20GB then it should see at least 32GB. In most systems that was the next barrier after 8GB. You may just need to 'fdisk' the drive to see how much the OS sees and experiment. Interesting. I'll have to toy with it again. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]The Programmer's Stone
On 20031115.1840, Patrick R. Wade said ... I mentioned this to several people today who hadn't remembered it: http://www.reciprocality.org/Reciprocality/index.html Can you give me the background on this link? I've read about half of the first chapter of the first article and it is interesting reading, but I'm not sure what context I'm reading it in. :) Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Gnome2
I switched from Enlightenment to Gnome2.2 with Metacity about a month ago. I like the Gnome2 better at this point simply b/c it integrates better with other apps. But there are 2 things that bother me... 1. I can't set up my own keybindings to launch various programs. Gnome has default keybindings such as minimizing windows, moving to different viewports, etc. But I cannot find a way to set up a keybinding to launch my xterm, for instance. Something I grew accustomed to with E. 2. I run gkrellm, and when I alt-tab to different windows, it shows up in the list of windows. I can't find where or how to make that not happen. Enlightement had an option on all windows to include them in the list or not. I'm going to go to gkrellm in a moment -- maybe there is a plugin or something. If anyone knows how to fix these, please tell me. You'll be my Gnome savior. :) -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Gnome2
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:58:38 -0800 Rob Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I switched from Enlightenment to Gnome2.2 with Metacity about a month | ago. I like the Gnome2 better at this point simply b/c it integrates | better with other apps. But there are 2 things that bother me... | | 1. I can't set up my own keybindings to launch various programs. | Gnome has default keybindings such as minimizing windows, moving to | different viewports, etc. But I cannot find a way to set up a | keybinding to launch my xterm, for instance. Something I grew | accustomed to with E. | | 2. I run gkrellm, and when I alt-tab to different windows, it shows up | in the list of windows. I can't find where or how to make that not | happen. Enlightement had an option on all windows to include them in | the list or not. I'm going to go to gkrellm in a moment -- maybe | there is a plugin or something. | | If anyone knows how to fix these, please tell me. You'll be my Gnome | savior. :) | | -Rob On 20031114.0924, Ben Barrett said ... For the gkrellm issue: if you're using a new enough version of gkrellm, there is a configuration option in its GUI to achieve what you want: Right-click on gkrellm, and select configuration (or hit F1 when gkrellm has focus), then in the General area, select the second tab, Properties. There you'll see options for whether to set as a dock/panel type, as well as finer-grade options like inclusion on taskbar and pager... if your version does not have that, you might look for a gkrellm-plugins-gnome which offers similar functionality. Yes, I have those options, but it doesn't seem to make any difference... even when I restart gkrellm in between. Strange. The website says these should work too. I have gkrellm 2.1.7, install via apt on debian testing. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]bash tricks
There are a few nice bash tricks to search and replace text in files, using find, and a grep script that bolds the searched for words up on this week's ArsTechnica Linux page: http://arstechnica.com/etc/linux/2003/linux.ars-2003-2.html ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]new disk in old server
Dear EUGLUG, I have a spare 40GB drive I was planning on putting in an old AMD K6-2 500 server. The machine is currently running off of a 6GB drive. I've got 2 of these same machines -- 1 is running my websites, and the other is at home as a test machine. When I put the 40GB drive in there, the motherboard only saw 20GB of it. So my idea was to get a EIDE PCI card which would have the added benefit that I could run the 40GB drive at full UDMA100 speed. But this makes me curious if the kernel will need the driver for the PCI card, and would that mean I'd have to boot from floppy? Or would it just mean that the boot partition needs to be at the beginning of the drive so the motherboard can see it and once Linux is loaded, the rest of the drive is visible? I'm always confused by where Linux overcomes motherboard deficiencies. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]new disk in old server
On 20031112.1047, Ben Barrett said ... It depends on your hardware, AFAIK, and then is up to the kernel, as to how the drives get assigned during boot. Just dealt with some boot seqence issues on SATA drives here at work, and the fix was to pass boot prompt parameters to force an ordering which allowed booting from the desired drive. In my case, I couldn't boot Knoppix from the CD-ROM since the two SATA controllers bumped the auto-assignment of the CDROM drive high enough (ie, hdj IIRC) that Knoppix did not seek it out. Hmm. I've just never used a card to boot my systems. If one has SCSI, how does Linux load the kernel if it needs SCSI drivers to read from the device? I'd imagine a UDMA PCI card would be similar. You might also want to look at the motherboard manufacturer's site to see if they have a BIOS update which woudl help... Yep, I've got the latest. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]mail over ssh
At work, I leave an SSH session open to my server and run Mutt off the server. Recently, our worksite acquired a firewall that closes inactive sessions after 15 minutes. So if I don't get mail for 15 minutes and don't use the terminal, it drops me. What I'd like to do is update my .muttrc file and add a clock to the status line. If I 'man muttrc', it tells me I can add %fmt to my index_format line to show the current time. Anyone familiar with mutt rc files? Can I add the %fmt to my status_format line? Any other ideas to make activity on my screen to not drop the connection? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mail over ssh
On 20031112.1424, Bob Miller said ... In a more serious vein, I have the same problem at TiVo, so I wrote this script, which I called printloop. #!/bin/sh while sleep 60 do echo -ne '\1' done When it runs, I see: ne \1 Show up on the screen. Server is FreeBSD. FreeBSD's echo doesn't have the 'e' flag, which allows for the escape characters. I tried using the escaped character insert mode in Vim. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mail over ssh
On 20031112.1518, Rob Hudson said ... I tried using the escaped character insert mode in Vim. And it works! Thanks kbob. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mail over ssh
On 20031112.1352, Patrick R. Wade said ... What are you using for the SSH client? You may be able to set it to send keepalives. I had a problem like you describe telecommuting from the Growers' Market to efn, and it went away when i set 2-minute keepalives in PuTTY. I'm using just straight OpenSSH. Man page doesn't mention any keep alives for it. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]FAH info
On 20031106.1115, Bob Miller said ... Jacob Meuser wrote: I see there have been 61 'folders' for 668, pretty impressive. Maybe there'd be more new members if euglug's FAH efforts were more blatant on the website? Excellent idea! (BTW, the euglug webmaster position is still open. Doesn't anyone here want fame, wealth, and groupies?) Any votes to just install something like Geeklog or Postnuke, and have a web admin group to manage it? -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Red Hat, Blue Hat, Old Hat, New Hat?
Ars just wrote about it... http://arstechnica.com/etc/linux/index.html They like it. On 20031106.1247, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said ... So, is the New Hat* any good? -Beaker *Fedora Project distro -- [ SiMpLe MaChInEs ] -- gopher://beaker.mdns.org or (via proxy) http://www.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite?gopher://beaker.mdns.org:70/11/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Red Hat, Blue Hat, Old Hat, New Hat?
Linux Weekly News did too: http://lwn.net/Articles/55082/ On 20031106.1247, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said ... So, is the New Hat* any good? -Beaker *Fedora Project distro -- [ SiMpLe MaChInEs ] -- gopher://beaker.mdns.org or (via proxy) http://www.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite?gopher://beaker.mdns.org:70/11/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]NPTL
Anyone used the Native POSIX Thread Library (NPTL) for Linux? http://lwn.net/Articles/10710/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor
On 20031101.2023, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp said ... Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane Society for computer equipment... But entirely free, or close to that. Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and donate them to those who might need them. Just this week I found out about freecycle.org... ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Wiki software?
For the super simple, try kwiki (kwiki.org). You can install it from CPAN (CGI::Kwiki). -Rob On 20031023.2113, jgw said ... Maybe it's late, maybe it's the beer, but I'm interested in playing with some Wiki software, and can't seem to locate THE Wiki software to use. I'm running FreeBSD and OS X, and I prefer something written in Perl or PHP. Preferably something easy to set up. Can someone give me some pointers. I can make NO sense whatsoever of wiki.org and the cutesy language it uses to try and describe things. Thanks! :) /jgw ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Resetting ownership
On 20031016.1306, Bob Miller said ...
It isn't keeping the ownership of the source. Can someone come up
with a quick and dirty way of reading /etc/passwd and assiging the
original permissions to /home/$USER ? Please?
perl -F: -nae 'print find $F[5] -exec chown $F[2]:$F[3]\{}\\;\\n if $F[5] =~
m./home/.' /etc/passwd | sh -x
What, no Python? (Oh, he DID say dirty! ;)
The other Bob
I guess that makes me the Other Other Bob. Do we have any other
Other Other Bobs on this list?
-Rob (Coulda been a Bob)
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Re: [eug-lug]Computer books for sale - any interest?
Post a list! I love computer books. :) On 20031015.1539, Jason said ... Hey list, In interest of reducing clutter, I'm looking to offload some of my extra computer books. I'd rather not go the ebay route w/ shipping, etc., so I figured I'd see if there was interest on the list. I'll probably sell any of them for 33%-40% of cover, depending on age, etc., but I'm sure I'll entertain all offers. I have probably 30 or so to sell, if there's any interest I can post a list of titles. Thanks, Jason ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Whoa!
Great job, Beaker. I see some nice creative differences than the original. Looks good. :) On 20030919.2239, Garl Grigsby said ... Looks like somebody has been busy. (see http://www.euglug.org ) I like the new look. So who do I congratulate? Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]This is too funny!
I just got one of those too in gaim. :) On 20030828.2243, Linux Rocks! said ... So, Im running gaim (instant messanger), I like it for many reasons, one of which is that it works with many services (including Microsofts MSN Messanger) I get this instant message: (22:24:27) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are running a version of messenger that requires an immediate security update. Please visit http://messenger.msn.com/Help/Upgrades.aspx to complete the update. (22:24:28) [EMAIL PROTECTED] has closed the conversation window. So, If you go to the website, it explains this... As part of Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing initiative, Microsoft is delivering a security update for some users that connect to the .NET Messenger Service for instant messaging using MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. Please click on the Messenger client name or device type below to determine whether you need to upgrade your client or not. MSN Messenger for Windows MSN Messenger for Mac Windows Messenger blah blah blah, no we dont have listing for gaim for linux! Anyway, Im using gaim, not Messanger, so they dont have a security update for me. So I looked into the current version of gaim and found this: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/msn.php The short version of it is: Microsoft will not allow 3rd party software with thier service after october 15th, when the start using a new protocol... Jamie ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]spontaneous reboot
Anyone have any ideas on this one? I've got debian on my laptop. It installed a 2.2.20 kernel. I wanted to upgrade to the latest 2.4.21 kernel. I installed it via apt-get. Set up lilo and ran /sbin/lilo. Now when I try to boot into that kernel, it goes thru this iteration ad infinitum... Loading Linux .. BIOS data check [reboot] The 2.2.20 kernel can still boot so I'm trying different variations in the lilo.conf. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]spontaneous reboot
On 20030823.0852, Rob Hudson said ... Anyone have any ideas on this one? I've got debian on my laptop. It installed a 2.2.20 kernel. I wanted to upgrade to the latest 2.4.21 kernel. I installed it via apt-get. Set up lilo and ran /sbin/lilo. Now when I try to boot into that kernel, it goes thru this iteration ad infinitum... Loading Linux .. BIOS data check [reboot] The 2.2.20 kernel can still boot so I'm trying different variations in the lilo.conf. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob Figured it out... You have to pick the right CPU when you install the kernel! I guess Pentium-MMX is 586tsc. Oops. :) -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]ssh with X
On 20030819.1140, Cory Petkovsek said ... _ALL_ that is necessary is making sure this line is in the sshd_config on the server: X11Forwarding yes For a production server, is this something you'd want to be careful about? Does forwarding X11 open any security concerns? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]ssh with X
So, since my laptop is pretty slow by today's standards (P233), is it possible to use the laptop as a terminal and use my workstation as the real computer behind the scenes? I think the trick would be the necessary network drivers to at least connect to my workstation. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]emac question
On 20030816.1554, Timothy Bolz said ... I've been looking through some python code and it looks as easy. It's very readable and you can follow the logic. I should have looked into it earlier. There's a python mailing list... http://mailman.efn.org/mailman/listinfo/think_python Hey Larry, what's the difference between 'Think' and 'Think_Python'? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]ssh with X
On 20030815.1617, Bob Miller said ... Rob Hudson wrote: Does anyone have tips on SSHing and launching X apps on the remote machine and have them appear on the local machine? Even if I connect with ssh -X, I can't seems to get it to work. Make sure you have X11Forwarding yes in the remote machine's sshd_config. That did the trick. :) Don't try to run the X client as a different user than you logged in as. (E.g., don't go, ssh -tX [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo xlogo So, if I 'startx' as user 'rob', and ssh in as another user, I won't be able to launch X apps? -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]ssh with X
Does anyone have tips on SSHing and launching X apps on the remote machine and have them appear on the local machine? Even if I connect with ssh -X, I can't seems to get it to work. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]ssh with X
On 20030815.1646, Bob Miller said ... localhost$ ssh -X remotehost [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Last login: x remotehost$ xterm I think at that point I got an error about something with the remote host not allowing a connection? I'll try again tonight on my laptop talking to my workstation and send the exact text. (And double check my sshd config). Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]ssh with X
On 20030815.1751, Ben Barrett said ... I assume you're connecting from another 'nix boxen? When I run an Xwindows service on my winbloze craptop, and connect to my local workstation, I have to export DISPLAY=192.168.42.42:0.0 in the command shell, where 42.42 is the LAN address of the craptop, and I'm typing this into a bash shell, the ssh session onto my workstation. I'm still kinda confused about when setting the DISPLAY env var is required; I never have to do it with a remote machine (via WAN), but sometimes have to do it over my LAN -- I think it is from windoze, IIRC. Ah yes, it was something about DISPLAY:0.0 or something. I was trying to export something similar too. I'll have to play around with it some more. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]un apt-get
Is there a way to tell apt-get to remove all packages from a particular source? I added the Gnome2.2 backport for woody to my sources, and now a lot of stuff is broken (esp evolution). I can't compile firebird anymore due to a pango compile error. So I want to back out to where I was. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mailing lists
On 20030801.1209, Bob Miller said ... IMHO, @euglug.org is the domain to use for mailing lists. It's the one that makes the most sense, because EUGLUG is a nonprofit organization, not an ISP or company. And EUGLUG is separate from EFN/OPN (though that isn't always obvious (-: ). But since I'm not willing to take the time to migrate all the mailing lists over to euglug.org, and nobody else seems to share my vision, it doesn't matter much what I think. I share the vision, and went through the trouble of setting up mailman on the euglug.org servers (which is probably in need of an upgrade at this point). It just makes sense to me that the euglug lists be in the @euglug.org domain. Doing a mass member set up would be easy to do. The downside would be for the users, who would have to change their address books or filters to point to the new server. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Eclipse oss's answer to .net?
I loaded it up once. I wasn't too impressed, but I've really never used a big development environment. For simple PHP scripts, there isn't much need. The screenshots I've seen makes me think it's much larger than just web apps. The big idea around eclipse is it's plugin architecture. There are plugins for CVS, diffs, syntax highlighting, code hints, etc. So the potential is very powerful. -Rob On 20030804.1802, john fleming said ... Has anyone used eclipse or contributed to the project etc? From reading a fair amount of material on it I am left with the impression that it is dominated by java, and focuses on web apps. If anyone has anything to help me understand it please holler. john ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]attachments in webmail
I've never set it up, but I've heard good things about SquirrelMail. Michelle (BSD Goddess) Brownsworth has set this up many times, I believe. -Rob On 20030801.1704, Bob Miller said ... Several of you have set up webmail systems. Do any of them handle attachment well? A friend of mine is looking for a webmail system, and she has the specific requirement that it present attached images in line on the same page as the message. What do you folks recommend? -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]computers/laptops forsale...
BTW, I've got one of these working now in a laptop. I can't get WEP working so far, but I haven't tried very hard either. -Rob On 20030731.1836, Linux Rocks! said ... well... I will need to keep atleast one card for whatever laptop I cant get, but they are proxim rangelan-ds, w/internal antenna. Ill accept $30 for one, but cant sell both unless I can get a laptop with wireless built in Jamie At 07:15 PM 7/31/03 -0400, you wrote: I also have 2 prism wireless cards (which I havnt yet gotten working in these laptops except under windows... ) What cards are they and how much do you want? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]mailing lists
Hello, I would like there to be a Python mailing list. I could set one up on euglug.org with mailman, but I know there are lists we (EUGLUG) use not on that server. There was also a zoneverte python list but when I tried to send a message there last nothing came through. My question to those managing lists... should the list server on euglug.org be deprecated? Where would be a good place for a python list? Maybe with the idea of a Eugene Python Users Group (EUGPUG) (or is it a Eugene Python Interest Group (EUGPIG) or Eugene Python Group (EUGPyG))? -Rob (Learning Python in Eugene) ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mailing lists
PS: The current list of lists on euglug.org can be found here: http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo I'm not sure if any are being used at the moment. -Rob On 20030801.0953, Rob Hudson said ... Hello, I would like there to be a Python mailing list. I could set one up on euglug.org with mailman, but I know there are lists we (EUGLUG) use not on that server. There was also a zoneverte python list but when I tried to send a message there last nothing came through. My question to those managing lists... should the list server on euglug.org be deprecated? Where would be a good place for a python list? Maybe with the idea of a Eugene Python Users Group (EUGPUG) (or is it a Eugene Python Interest Group (EUGPIG) or Eugene Python Group (EUGPyG))? -Rob (Learning Python in Eugene) ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Fwd: August 2003
SAO brewpub meetings with wireless connectivity (and beer!)? - Forwarded message from Wild Duck Brewsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Wild Duck Brewsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:52:50 -0700 To: Wild Duck Brewsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: August 2003 *** WILD DUCK TO PROVIDE FREE WIRELESS INTERNET CONNECTION IN HOUSE The Wild Duck will provide free laptop wireless Internet connectivity throughout the restaurant in August, 2003. Anyone with a laptop computer will be able to link up to the Internet. Modems will be made available to those systems that need them. The exact procedure for linking up to the Wild Duck's wireless system will be available. More information about Wild Duck wireless Internet connectivity coming soon! [snip] - End forwarded message - ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mailing lists
On 20030801.1833, Bob Crandell said ... Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Larry Price wrote: And Rob, since you are the interested one... Does this mean it will be a list with one person on it? Rob will get to ask and answer his own questions! Here's a challenge for Rob: Stump the admin. All too easy to stump myself. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]mailing lists
I saw his name go by on the sign up, so he's already there. :) On 20030801.1631, Jim K said ... As far as the python list. I will let Chris Meyers, if it is okay with people. He is again teaching programming for fun uaing python. The summer class is more an introductory class. A lot of the people in it are windows users for the moment and are using python or IDLE a python environment also available under linux. JimK ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Mozilla colorizing text?
I've never seen that. Which version of Mozilla? THe only thing I can think of is to traverse to your mozilla directory and cd into defaults/pref/. Find unix.js and open it up. In there you've got some font preferences you can play with. See if freetype2 is enabled: // TrueType pref(font.FreeType2.enable, true); pref(font.freetype2.shared-library, libfreetype.so.6); You can also play with hinting and other font issues. -Rob On 20030728.1240, Bob Miller said ... I thought my eyes were going bad -- some text on web pages in Mozilla looks weirdly colored. But I magnified the pixels w/ xmag, and Mozilla is coloring my text. It's very weird. I've attached a PNG image to this message. I haven't seen it in other apps, but most apps don't antialias text, at least on my system. I wonder whether it's supposed to correct for the fact that some displays don't put the R, G, and B pixels at the same location. Anyway, does anybody know how to turn off this colorization? It is very distracting. Thanks. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Programmatically resizing a window
On 20030723.2119, Roger said ... Around Wed,Jul 23 2003, at 06:46, Bob Miller, wrote: I want my Mozilla windows to be exactly 792x572, and every now and then I accidentally catch a window by its grow bar and change its size. Then it's a slow, error-prone process to resize it back to exactly 792x592. Type this in the address bar: javascript:window.resizeTo(width, height) Replace width and height with the numbers you want. Be prepared for mozilla to jump to position 0,0 of your window. If it doesn't work, you might have to adjust your javascript allow settings to allow javascript to resize existing windows. You might even be able to bookmark that and hit it whenever you goof. :) -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Programmatically resizing a window
Another fun mozilla trick is to type this... about:config into the address bar. In most modern mozillas this allows you to adjust all the preferences on the fly. I don't think they're saved, but it lets you experiment. -Rob On 20030723.2234, Bob Miller said ... Rob Hudson wrote: Type this in the address bar: javascript:window.resizeTo(width, height) You might even be able to bookmark that and hit it whenever you goof. Indeed. That worked great, thanks! -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]proxim rangelan 8430
Finally got the card to work. Used: pcmcia-cs wlan-ng (http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan/) It's using the prism2_cs driver. I haven't yet been able to get WEP working. I still need to play with that a bit. Hopefully it's possible but 40-bit (the max this card can do, I think) isn't much more than 0-bit encryption. But I'd rather have it. (I know how to do tcpdumps, but don't know how to break 40-bit encryption, so the extra step would make me feel a tad better). I am doing MAC address filtering and only allowing this card, so hopefully that keeps people off my network. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]grub
On 20030717.1630, Bob Miller said ... Rob Hudson wrote: I'm building a new kernel on the laptop running redhat 9. I've never used grub before. There is a /boot/grub/grub.conf file which I edited. Is there anything else I ahve to do similar to /sbin/lilo? If your system already uses grub, then you're done. That's grub's claim to fame: you don't have to rewrite the boot loader every time you recompile the kernel. Grub traverses the file system and finds the kernel (and initrd) at boot time. If you're switching from Lilo to Grub, there are some magic incantations you have to type once to install grub in your MBR. It came with grub installed. here's my conf file, which doesn't boot the new 2.4.21 kernel... #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Linux (2.4.21) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=LABEL=/1 title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-18.9) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-18.9 ro root=LABEL=/1 initrd /initrd-2.4.20-18.9.img It dies when it tries to mount root. I wasn't sure what that 'root=LABEL=/1' thing was, so I left it. Also, remind me what initrd does? Do I need it? How do you make one? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]grub
So, since RedHat9 uses ext3, initrd probably has the ext3 module in it so it can load the kernel? On 20030718.1110, Cory Petkovsek said ... On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:47:31AM -0700, Bob Miller wrote: Rob wrote: It dies when it tries to mount root. I wasn't sure what that 'root=LABEL=/1' thing was, so I left it. There may be a patch or special config setting needed (I don't know for sure) to enable booting by label. Try replacing root=LABEL=/1 with root=/dev/hda3 or whatever. Also, remind me what initrd does? Do I need it? How do you make one? Initrd is short for initial ram disk. It is a ram disk image that the boot loader loads into memory with the kernel. If your distro uses initrd, then you should too, because it's hard to second-guess what their config files do. Inital ram disk that often has kernel modules in it like... oh.. extfs, reiserfs, ext3fs. Since your kernel can't mount your root file system it may be because the kernel does have file system support for it. However I would take out root=LABEL=/1. I don't know what that is, but the root option tells the kernel where to to look for the root file system. Try root=/dev/hda1, which is what you specified already with root (hd0,0) Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]grub
On 20030718.1047, Bob Miller said ... To enable initrd, set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD in your kernel config. Go to the Block Devices page and enable RAM disk support and Initial RAM disk (initrd) support. Would that be these two? CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]grub
On 20030718.1125, Rob Hudson said ... On 20030718.1047, Bob Miller said ... To enable initrd, set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD in your kernel config. Go to the Block Devices page and enable RAM disk support and Initial RAM disk (initrd) support. Would that be these two? CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y Also needed this: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096 Trying to avoid make xconfig or make menuconfig, and make config is too slow. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]hardware
Recently I installed RedHat 9 on my laptop. I haven't been able to get the wireless network card working. (Jamie, any tips?) During the process I came up with a few questions... How can I make the Gnome desktop run a little faster on my aging Pentium 233 laptop? Or would KDE run any better? I maybe have to switch to a lighter window manager and those are just too slow on an older system. I've got 128 MB of RAM in there. Regarding hardware... what's the best way to check if a particular piece of hardware works under linux? Sometimes I google. I recently found linuxhardware.net but it didn't have much. Any other resources? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]hardware
I'm trying to ping Jamie about it b/c I think he has the same exact wireless card. Kbob and I put in an order together on it, and kbob gave his to jamie and he supposedly got it working. So he'd be a good place to get tips. It's a Proxim Rangelan-DS, model 8430. I've seen people say 8433 and 8434 work but mine is an older one with a different chipset (I think). The only place I find in google of someone saying it can work in Linux is this link: http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/RussellSenior I think we spent $30 or so on it so I'm not totally against buying another one that I know works in Linux and using that one for Window's only. Anyone have extra pcmcia cards? :) -Rob On 20030717.1054, Ben Barrett said ... (BTW, Jamie is not a redhat guy) -- I just upgraded from RedHat 7.3 to 9, and have been trying to get wireless working on campus (I can get my winders connected no problem, there) -- but I *have* gotten wireless to work from linux at home. I'm guessing from the sound of your post, that you have *not* used the wireless card in linux before?? You might want to test it in another laptop, ie with a known configuration, etc, but you'll certainly want to find out if your card is supported. If 10-30 seconds on google does not find you the resource you seek, post again to list and I'll help you out. Please do a search yourself, and post the latest resources you find to the list, if you can!! Thanks... regards, Ben B PS - if you state what card (model/make, or chipset) you have, that'd be a start. I've only used lucent/orinioco cards, which are well-supported. Anyone interested: I saw a tri-mode d-link pc card for ~$55 after rebate on dealnews the other day -- I'm pretty sure there are not yet linux drivers, but someday... On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:54:43 -0700 Rob Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Recently I installed RedHat 9 on my laptop. I haven't been able to | get the wireless network card working. (Jamie, any tips?) During the | process I came up with a few questions... | ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]grub
I'm building a new kernel on the laptop running redhat 9. I've never used grub before. There is a /boot/grub/grub.conf file which I edited. Is there anything else I ahve to do similar to /sbin/lilo? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Fwd: Re: proxim rangelan
Hey Jamie, Got any tips on getting this card to work? It's the Proxim RangeLan DS PCMCIA card, model number 8430. Any tips would be apprciated. Thanks! -Rob - Forwarded message from Bob Miller --- From: Bob Miller Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:57:41 -0700 To: Rob Hudson Subject: Re: proxim rangelan Rob Hudson wrote: I decided it was time to install Linux on our laptop. Did you find anything on the wireless NICs we both purchased? I sold mine to Jamie long ago. I think he got it working on his laptop. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Fwd: [PLUG] We might get OSCON here next year, with your help
- Forwarded message from Wil Cooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Wil Cooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 Jul 2003 10:34:26 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PLUG] We might get OSCON here next year, with your help I was introduced yesterday to Gina Blaber, director of conferences for O'Reilly. She said they were very happy with Portland and are strongly considering having it here next year. She recommended that I fill out a response form and encourage everyone in the local user groups to do so too. So, if you'd like to see OSCON here again next year, fill out this form and let O'Reilly know: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/survey/oscon03_eval/oscon03_conf_evaluation_1.htm (Also, if you know other groups that aren't in my To: header, would you please forward this message to them?) Wil -- Wil Cooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Naked Ape Consultinghttp://nakedape.cc * * * * * * * Good, fast and cheap: Pick all 3! * * * * * * * * Naked Ape Consultinghttp://nakedape.cc * - End forwarded message - ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Happiness is a working Nvidia video card
On 20030710.1036, Bob Miller said ... When the SGI Visual Workstation released in 1999, we had a demo made by a group at an Italian university (sorry, can't remember the name) where they took a bunch of still photos of the ruins of a Roman city, scanned them, stitched them together and pasted them over a very simplistic geometric model and created a walkthrough of the city. It looked very realistic. It used about 192 Mb of texture memory, if I recall. That sounds like this page I found once... http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/background/Campanile/sather1.htm The guy is into kite photography (and has some really nice pictures), but used some kite pictures and a geometric model and some software to make a 'fly-through'. Check out some of the movies on the page above. Very cool. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Neal Stephenson and Eugene, Oregon
Slashdot... Todd Garrison describes in detail how he solved the cryptographic puzzle promoting Neal Stephenson's forthcoming book Quicksilver, and the reward for his effort. Stephenson himself calls Garrison's story 'remarkable' because Garrison was completely unfamiliar with the system of writing (Real Character) used in the puzzle. Also, Stephenson notes that the system and its creator play roles in The Baroque Cycle. Scroll to near the bottom of this page to see that Todd Garrison is from Eugene... http://www.baroquecycle.com/letter1.htm His website is down where he describes the details: http://www.substream.com/crackingthecode.html -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]java
What's a good JDK to install on Linux? I think there are different varieties (Sun's JDK, IBM's Kaffe?, etc.) I was looking at installing NewsMonster, a mozilla based blog reader, but it requires a JDK. http://newsmonster.org/ Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]java
Thanks for the replies. It seemed I had a java install from a previous chunk of java XML something or other I was playing with. That got me as far as compiling newsmonster, which uses Ant instead of a Makefile. Now that I have a .xpi file and tell Mozilla to install it. When I restart, it complains that Mozilla can't find my java. I can't find anywhere to tell Mozilla where my java is. I even went to http://java.mozdev.org/ and got the blackdown java .xpi and that doesn't work either. I can try the sun one, I suppose. Is there an easier way to get Moz and Java working together? Thanks, Rob On 20030625.1239, Cory Petkovsek said ... On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:39:56AM -0700, Rob Hudson wrote: What's a good JDK to install on Linux? I think there are different varieties (Sun's JDK, IBM's Kaffe?, etc.) I was looking at installing NewsMonster, a mozilla based blog reader, but it requires a JDK. http://newsmonster.org/ Thanks, Rob I've used the jdk/jre from sun, and the jre from blackdown.org (ships with gentoo). Either's fine. Don't get the MS Java VM though. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]java
I've done that. If I check Help-About plugins it doesn't show up there. Should it? On 20030625.1636, Ralph Zeller said ... put a link in your mozilla plug-in directory, something like: cd /usr/local/mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_02/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so . delete any other java plugins in your mozilla plug-in directory. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]printers for sale
I've got two printers for sale. 1) Canon BJ-200e bubble jet BW. 2) Canon BJC-600 bubble jet color. Both work. They connect via parallel port. Make an offer if you want 'em. Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]sign up soon / Python for Fun Syllabus
I'm signed up. LCC has a nice new online registration system. On 20030619.1745, Horst said ... All -- those of you interested in Chris Meyers' class should sign up very sn. Should you have any questions feel free to contact Chris by email or by phone (see below) - Horst Course Information Python for Fun Summer Term, 2003 Thursdays 6pm to 9pm; Jun 26 to Aug 14 DTC room 124. Instructor: Chris Meyers. 343-4349 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]groaner
Bad geek joke... If a tree falls in an application, and nobody is around to hear it, is it logged? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]python2exe
Speaking of wxWindows. Here's an interesting project: http://wxmozilla.sourceforge.net/ About: wxMozilla is a project underway to develop a wxWindows component for embedding the Mozilla browser into any wxWindows application. The wxMozilla classes will utilize minimal, if any, platform dependant code and utilize directly the XPCOM (Cross Platrom COM) interface to instantate a html browser or editor within the application. -Rob On 20030619.1607, Ralph Zeller said ... Python's great. It starts slower than many small unix programs but the code is very readable. The wxPython library is a nice gui, there are several ways to do gui development with wxPython--boa, pythoncard, wxGlade, or vim! The scripts are fairly fast and responsive; it's not that hard to create programs that are comparable to c++ in speed. Best of all, there is no effort to compiling, linking, etc. Most developers using python rely on only the print command and builtin traceback info for debugging. I like wxPython because the code is very windows/linux portable. I like boa because you can use it to quickly create gui forms, menus, toolbars, and grids that work. You can add your own code, and drag it all back into boa to change the gui stuff. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]python2exe
I ran into this today and thought it was interesting... http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/py2exe/ There's also a perl2exe. http://www.indigostar.com/perl2exe.htm Anyone ever play with these? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
