Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
There is an infinitely easier way to do this - https://www.nde-ed.org/GeneralResources/MaterialProperties/ET/Conductivity_Al.pdf %IACS means the conductivity relative the International Annealed Copper Standard https://www.nde-ed.org/GeneralResources/IACS/IACS.htm It is a nice easy way to compare materials conductivity. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:22 AM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I might well be fighting a losing battle, but for the price of 4 holes in a strip of material it has been a great education. Tonight I tested the different alloys of Al idea. Last time, 0.02 x 1.75 in strip of roof flashing aluminum: ~120 F temperature rise in ~15 seconds, cross sectional area 0.036 in^2 Tonight: 0.1 in diameter aluminum welding filler rod ~30 F temperature rise in ~90 seconds, cross sectional area 0.016 in^2 I was rather impressed that 1/2 the area had ~1/4 the temperature rise! My guess is the welding rod is a more conductive Al alloy than the roof flashing is the big difference. Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM From: Chris Tromley ctrom...@gmail.com To: evdragra...@email.com, Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways? I think you're fighting a losing battle. Different alloys have an influence, but not enough to overcome the fact that copper has roughly twice the conductivity (both electrical and thermal) of aluminum. You'll need twice the cross-sectional area in aluminum as you would need with copper to achieve similar performance. Your 1.75 inch test shows a lack of proportionality, but that's likely due to short straps and how the current flows locally from the bolted joint. I'm thinking your best bet is to use copper conductors and be very sure all connections are thoroughly greased (Noalox, Vaseline, whatever) to ensure all moisture is excluded from the joint. And I would re-grease them once a year. Chris On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 2:54 AM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:I thought folks would like to hear the results of some of my testing. 1/2 inch smashed copper pipe, 200 Amps for a 2S2P pack of 8 Ahr P (for Power) Headway cells: Things stayed cool. 1/2 inch by 0.02 inch braided strap with smashed copper pipe at connections: 5 F rise in 90 seconds at 200 A 1/2 inch by 0.01 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 200F in about 15 seconds! This was done in the oxidized state. 1/2 inch by 0.01 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 200F in about 15 seconds! This was done with sanding and immediate Noalox. 1.75 inch by 0.02 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 160F in about 30 seconds. The Al performed way worse than theory predicted, then I think I figured it out. Al roof flashing from Home Depot is apparently not a very conductive alloy of Al. I'd guess better Al would perform much closer to Cu. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub[http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub] http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA]) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140922/d72c3737/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: £13k/$22k Peel P50 EVs available World's Smallest Cutest
My other car’s a can of tuna An untra rare 1964 Peel P50 went up for auction fetched $120+k! http://inhabitat.com/the-peel-p50-is-the-worlds-smallest-and-cutest-electric-car/ The Peel P50 is the World's Smallest (and Cutest) Electric Car! by Marc Carter, 09/12/14 [images http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/09/Peel-P50-Worlds-Smallest-Electric-Car-3.jpg http://inhabitat.com/the-peel-p50-is-the-worlds-smallest-and-cutest-electric-car/peel-p50-worlds-smallest-electric-car/ gallery ] Back in the 1960's Peel produced the smallest production cars in the world, but sadly they had to close up shop in 1966. Fast forward to today and the company has received a fresh round of funding to relaunch their most popular vehicles with all-electric engines! The Peel P50 measures just 54 inches long and 41 inches wide – and it’s a top contender for the world’s cutest electric car. With styling that looks like it came out of The Jetsons cartoon, the Peel 50 has a bubble-topped body that looks way cooler going down the street than other electric cars. Its sibling the Peel Trident has a more upright body and it can hold two passengers, whereas the Peel 50 only has room for the driver. With a three horsepower electric motor, neither the Peel P50 or Trident will be able to zoom past a Tesla Model S, but the vehicles’ 15-mile range and compact exteriors makes them perfect for dense cities like San Francisco or New York. Both models are street legal in the UK and US, but they aren’t cheap – with pricing starting at £12,999 ($21,575 US). [© inhabitat.com] ... http://www.peelengineering.com/peels/peel-p50 Peel P50 EV ... [video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo The Smallest Car in the World at the BBC - Top Gear - BBC TopGear Dec 5, 2008 Jeremy drives the Peel P50, the world's smallest production car to work at the BBC and meets a few famous faces along the way. ] ... http://topgear.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_P50 ... http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archive/Event/Item/1963-PEEL-P50-REPLICA-97055 $9.4k 1963 PEEL P50 REPLICA ... http://www.automovelblog.com/galleria/peel-p50/11 ... http://flashbak.com/the-peel-p50-car-was-made-for-pulling-11279/ Peel P50 ... My other car’s a can of tuna (b/w image from 1960's) http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/top-ten-record-breakers/08_smallest_peel_p50_copy/ For EVLN posts use: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=204476 http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_pagenode=413529query=evlnsort=date http://cleantechnica.com/2014/09/14/san-diego-electric-cars-1/ San Diego Now Home To 10,000+ Electric Cars http://www.ocregister.com/articles/car-634981-chairiot-wheelchair.html Chairiot Solo EV for the disabled wheelchair-bound driver http://www.mensjournal.com/gear/cars/range-anxiety-in-2014-reports-from-an-all-electric-road-trip-20140911 Skip the dreaded Watertown Serv-Ctr charge4 Kennebunkport Supercharger + EVLN: Silent stealthy e-Golf police EV is coming for you {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-13k-22k-Peel-P50-EVs-available-World-s-Smallest-Cutest-tp4671700.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £75k York.uk 1st converted double-decker sightseeing ebus (video)
The information on the hub motors stated that wheels would turn at 500 RPMs - or - 70 miles per hour. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-EVLN-75k-York-uk-1st-converted-double-decker-sightseeing-ebus-video-tp4671680p4671701.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
Hello All Has anyone had any experience with ordering lithium battery packs from China? If so, how is the transaction at our port cities. Apparently, these companies only ship to our ports. Thanks! Matthew Parkhouse, RN hobomatt@ aol.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
Hi Matthew, I have purchased direct from CALB in China which went very well but slightly scary as it is payment up front. You need to find an importer to ship inland from the docks or pick the consignment up yourself. Have you tried looking at prices from European suppliers? I have purchased successfully from ev-power.eu and there is another in Holland called newelectric at www.newelectric.nl Newelectric are a European stockist for Jack Rickard's EVTV store but I have no idea how much they actually have in Holland. I have though purchased successfully from the US EVTV store. A quick Google may find others. Russ On Mon, 22/9/14, Matthew Parkhouse via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Subject: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Date: Monday, 22 September, 2014, 11:41 Hello All Has anyone had any experience with ordering lithium battery packs from China? If so, how is the transaction at our port cities. Apparently, these companies only ship to our ports. Thanks! Matthew Parkhouse, RN hobomatt@ aol.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
RN =... • Niger (international vehicle registration).[from French République du Niger .] • (chiefly in North America) Registered Nurse. • (in the UK) Royal Navy. ? On 22 Sep 2014, at 11:41, Matthew Parkhouse via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hello All Has anyone had any experience with ordering lithium battery packs from China? If so, how is the transaction at our port cities. Apparently, these companies only ship to our ports. Thanks! Matthew Parkhouse, RN hobomatt@ aol.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140922/676a172b/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
On 09/22/2014 05:41 AM, Matthew Parkhouse via EV wrote: Hello All Has anyone had any experience with ordering lithium battery packs from China? If so, how is the transaction at our port cities. Apparently, these companies only ship to our ports. I bought a batch of ThunderSkys from Evergreen in Hong Kong about 2008. Wired about $30k to them. That was a bit uncomfortable. But the deal went smoothly. I have not heard of anyone being burned importing cells. I drove to Houston to pick them up from an importing agent. The duty plus fees were about $1k additional. The importing agent was willing to forward them by common carrier but I am only a few hours from Houston. What was the name of the company that gave some customers some grief a while back? EV Components? I bought some cells from them without incident but I believe some other customers had some trouble. From the information I have seen, I have to conclude importing is safer but more tedious. A California company (Balaqon? Something like that) is now selling ThunderSkys domestically. I've also bought some cells from http://evsource.com/ in Utah with good results. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
Why not use tin plated copper bus bars. This is what we use in our electrical equipment. You can also get plated aluminum bus bars and wire terminals that is normally use in overhead line equipment. When purchasing bus bars, wire terminals, circuit breakers, circuit breaker panels and switch gear, some times in the larger fittings it, it may have a stamp on it CO-AL meaning that it is approve for for either Copper or Aluminum connections. You can get the plated copper bus bars in long lengths and cut them to size. You will note that the cut ends will show copper. In wet locations, coat these cut ends with silver paint or epoxy silver paint. Go to a local wholesale electrical supply house to see what sources and manufacturers they sell. Some times you may able to buy from them if you list yourself as a Electric Vehicle Research Systems or sometime like that. If you cannot purchase directly from them, find out what electrical contractors deals with this supplier and go to the electrical contractor to pick up a purchase order with all the items and stock numbers listed. Some times these electrical contractors may have varies lengths of these bus bars left over from a job. I plan to use plated copper bus bars when I use Li-Ion cells. Roland - Original Message - From: Lee Hart via EVmailto:ev@lists.evdl.org To: evdragra...@email.commailto:evdragra...@email.com ; Electric Vehicle Discussion Listmailto:ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways? via EV wrote: I might well be fighting a losing battle, but for the price of 4 holes in a strip of material it has been a great education. Tonight I tested the different alloys of Al idea. Last time, 0.02 x 1.75 in strip of roof flashing aluminum: ~120 F temperature rise in ~15 seconds, cross sectional area 0.036 in^2 Tonight: 0.1 in diameter aluminum welding filler rod ~30 F temperature rise in ~90 seconds, cross sectional area 0.016 in^2 I was rather impressed that 1/2 the area had ~1/4 the temperature rise! My guess is the welding rod is a more conductive Al alloy than the roof flashing is the big difference. Great to see some actual test results! A quick comment: Pure metals are much more conductive than alloys. Most hardware store structural aluminum is going to be some alloy -- not what you want as an electrical conductor! Look up the conductivity of the various aluminum alloys and you'll see what I mean. Get some PURE aluminum to test. If you have to get it at Home Depot, then buy some aluminum *wire* and spread out the strands to make a flat strip. There are also aluminum solders. They actually work pretty well. You could place a bunch of strands of aluminum wire next to each other to make a flat bar, wrap a thin piece of aluminum flashing around them to hold them in position, and then solder them together at the ends. Drill a hole in the ends of the bar, and you have a high conductivity (yet somewhat flexible) inter-cell jumper. -- If you would not be forgotten When your body's dead and rotten Then write of great deeds worth the reading Or do these great deeds, worth repeating. -- Ben Franklin, from Poor Richard's Almanac -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htmhttp://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usubhttp://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.orghttp://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRAhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140922/b4da8626/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
I remember the Thundersky problem.. This is exactly why I am asking the EVDlist for real life experiences bringing a small order (48 volt and 120 battery pack that came from China). Sounds a bit scarey, has this happened to any of us? Two outfits have said they will ship to my favourite port. What happens then? I assume I then hire an agent of some sort to do the paper work and either hand over the batteries or help organise trucking to the center of the US (Colorado). Just in case, are there any folks on this List in the business who could put together the 48 volt pack and the 120 volt pack to my specs (dimensions), with whatever BMS is needed? I would prefer to keep this in country than involving the whole world! Many thanks Matthew Parkhouse, RN hobomatt@ aol.com On 22 Sep 2557 BE, at 09:34, Lee Hart leeah...@earthlink.net wrote: It's been a number of years, but I participated in a group buy from Thundersky. Basically, they shipped us floor sweepings; rejects, old stock, and junk. You need to understand that Chinese businesses are not bound by any of the legal protections and ethics of US firms. Many of them take full advantage of this. They can cheat you, and not worry about being sued. If they decide that you are a one-time customer with no likelihood for repeat business, look out! It will cost more, but if you buy from a domestic distributor, they *are* bound by the law. If they fail to deliver what you ordered, you have the right to return it for replacement or your money back. They need to receive the shipment, inspect it, and fight with the Chinese supplier if any are bad. Most likely the US distributor will have to EAT the bad ones (i.e. accept that only 90% of the cells they receive can actually be sold). Of course, US distributors can also cheat you. They can pretend to test, but in fact do nothing. They can make excuses, stall, or disappear without a trace. But at least the law is on your side; you can sue, or have them criminally prosecuted. There is also the option of physically visiting the firm yourself (or through a proxy) to judge for yourself if they are honest or a fly-by-night outfit. Caveat emptor! -- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James -- Lee A. Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com/controllers.htm now includes the GE EV-1 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
I have been a Registered Nurse since 1986, an LPN since my Army medic days. Combined with being a factory trained BMW motorcycle mechanic, I've had a very interesting career path and a GREAT skill set. Got disabled by some botched gall bladder surgery a few years ago (at the hospital I worked at - Penrose Hospital, in Colorado Springs - they then proceeded to fire me because I could no longer do the work!) Matthew Parkhouse, RN hobomatt@ aol.com On 22 Sep 2557 BE, at 05:35, Martin WINLOW m...@winlow.co.uk wrote: On ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
On 09/22/2014 11:55 AM, Marcus Reddish via EV wrote: Are these the old white Thunder sky cells that failed? Seem to remember a picture of them leaking. Is it possible folks charged those early cells like they were lead and caused (or contributed to) the failures? I have not heard of any bad batch since the white cells, which was ages ago. The situation Lee describes dates to 2000-2003? Something like that. I know nothing of the situation but I believe they were LCP cells. Starting about 2005, LFPs were the preferred cells for conversions. I know of no quality or delivery problems with ThunderSky LFPs. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
On 22 Sep 2014 at 7:55, Roland via EV wrote: You can get the plated copper bus bars in long lengths and cut them to size. You will note that the cut ends will show copper. In wet locations, coat these cut ends with silver paint or epoxy silver paint. Why not tin them with solder? I would think that that would bond and protect better. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
If there is a platting house nearby, they won't charge much for a basket of copper bits. Could be far less trouble than manual tinning. Nickel might be better choice in that case. Of a flash of nickel under the tin. I would do tin/lead dip if I was not concerned about ROHS and had a plater still working with that. It is a much better coating in so many ways. If you could find an old solder pot (for tinning leads and such) you could do that yourself for smaller parts. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 22 Sep 2014 at 7:55, Roland via EV wrote: You can get the plated copper bus bars in long lengths and cut them to size. You will note that the cut ends will show copper. In wet locations, coat these cut ends with silver paint or epoxy silver paint. Why not tin them with solder? I would think that that would bond and protect better. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140922/6886f70e/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Power of EV (DC)
I went to a drive EV thing last week and made a small circuit in a Tesla S. My first high powered EV experience. I pushed the pedal (not floored, just goosed) at 65mph and was shocked. If I am looking at the road when I do it, and then immediately check the speedo it is north of 75mph. The switch flipping nature of it is what is wild. Of course, this is exactly what 0 - 60 in less than 5 seconds means. Less than a second to gain 12 mph. I suspect at lower speeds it has to detune a little to maintain traction. Far too much power for my tastes. Makes me want to see all of what it will do. Fortunately, I can't conceivably spend the cost of a modest home on a car. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:36 PM, John Lussmyer via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: So, now that my Electric F-250 is fully functional with it's Leaf batteries, I've been driving it more. One of the odd things I have to deal with is that my other vehicle is a nearly identical truck that is Diesel. So, on the freeway with the Diesel (which I've been driving for years), when accelerating into faster traffic, I have to make sure I have enough room, and stomp on it. Coming back from the Issaquah Drive Electric Week event, I got stuck behind a truck doing 50mph, and the next lane was doing 65mph. Found a gap, changed lanes, and stomped on the pedal. Then hit the brakes before I rear-ended the car in front of me 500A at 310V can provide a LOT of acceleration, even with a 6000lb vehicle. -- Bobcats and Cougars, oh my! http://john.casadelgato.com/Pets ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140922/0f572b9e/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Power of EV (DC)
John Lussmyer via EV wrote: So, now that my Electric F-250 is fully functional with it's Leaf batteries, I've been driving it more. One of the odd things I have to deal with is that my other vehicle is a nearly identical truck that is Diesel. So, on the freeway with the Diesel (which I've been driving for years), when accelerating into faster traffic, I have to make sure I have enough room, and stomp on it. Coming back from the Issaquah Drive Electric Week event, I got stuck behind a truck doing 50mph, and the next lane was doing 65mph. Found a gap, changed lanes, and stomped on the pedal. Then hit the brakes before I rear-ended the car in front of me 500A at 310V can provide a LOT of acceleration, even with a 6000lb vehicle. That's GREAT to hear, John! BTW, what are you using for a BMS with the Leaf cells? -- If you would not be forgotten When your body's dead and rotten Then write of great deeds worth the reading Or do these great deeds, worth repeating. -- Ben Franklin, from Poor Richard's Almanac -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)