Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] Re: afk ...
I'll be thinking of you while you're gone. It gets too quiet when you're gone. Mike On October 3, 2014 11:39:04 PM MDT, Tom Keenan via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hope things go well for you Bruce, and looking forward to your return! Tom Keenan On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I had queued this message for 10/8 my last day, but it might be better to post it now even though we all expect the best for the scheduled evdl server downtime/changes. Because of the scheduled down time http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVDL-downtime-tp4671941.html I may be posting some additional newswire items to offset the downtime (there may be more than the usual two news posts per day I usually do). Also ... On Oct 8, I will be going under the surgeon's knife to hopefully follow my request to only remove the left half of my thyroid that has a goiter (growth). Afterward, I will be in a VA hospital bed (which does not allow public WiFi, Internet access), recovering before being released to return home. So, to some it may seem like I have done another disappearing act/ falling off the face of the planet (when really I will be going through Internet withdrawals). While everyone involved keeps saying all will be well the likelihood of problems are minimal, there is a chance that I may become a 'bricked' salvaged Tesla that has no hope of being re-enabled. If so, at least I got to have a great time and see all the EVs at last month's world record EVent http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-507-EVs-In-One-Place-New-Guinness-World-Record-eaasv-org-NDEW-tp4671722.html If all goes well, after being sent home and recovering a bit from an extra smile on my throat, I will be posting what newswires I have queued, and also playing newswire catch-up for the x-number of the days the VA kept me afk (incommunicado). . ~/__|o\__ '@- @'---(= Get Amp'd Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter Electric Vehicle List News brucedp.150m.com *Originator of the above ASCII art % Renewable Energy for your Electric Vehicle % (Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA) ... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=afk -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/afk-tp4671942.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)
It's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. The big standard for gasoline wrecks is is it leaking any fluids? If it is leaking any fluids, the vehicle gets towed away and no attempt is made to start it. An EV does not have so obvious an indicator. A wreck could expose some high voltage wiring, hold shut the overpressure caps, dent some cells, sever a few parallel connections, etc. For all of these the EV might run just fine, might even look fine, but not be safe. Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 at 12:52 PM From: Roger Stockton via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video) ... The energy content of gasoline is 32.4MJ/L, and 1MJ=0.28kWh; so, a 10 (US) gallon tank of ordinary gasoline contains 343kWh of energy, and yet every other auto manufacturer has *millions* of vehicles on the road with a manually-resettable-by-anyone inertia switch to disable this energy source in the event of a sufficiently serious accident. Yes, a means of automatically disabling/disconnecting the traction pack in the event of an accident makes sense for ~any~ EV, however, there is no obvious justification for this feature not being manually resettable without the assistance of the manufacturer. It seems reasonable that the vehicle might have the intelligence to refuse to re-enable should its onboard diagnostics determine that something is unsafe or defective with its systems (in the same way that a manually-resettable circuit breaker will immediately re-open if the a fault condition persists), but again it is not obvious that there is any need for the involvement of the manufacturer. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Gadja's 1939 Dodge e-Truck w/ li-ion phosphate pack r:100mi
http://gas2.org/2014/10/01/1939-dodge-truck-converted-into-ev/ 1939 Dodge Truck Converted Into EV [2014/10/01] [image http://gas2.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/al-gadja.jpeg e-truck ] Self-taught electric engineer Al Gadja has committed what some may consider to be historic car heresy, converting his 1939 Dodge truck into an electric vehicle. But to you and me, this is the 21st century of hot rodding, and this pre-war pickup has a longer driver range than many brand new EVs found on dealership lots. The Lexington Herald-Leader reports that Gadja spent many of his 74 years on this earth working for IBM, despite never getting a college degree. Over his lifetime he built up a wealth of electrical knowledge mostly by learning it himself or going to IBM-provided classes. He’s also a fan of old hot rod pickups, and dragged the ‘39 Dodge around the country with him with the hopes of hot rodding it. Then electric cars got popular, and Gadja decided to replace the inline-six engine with an electric drivetrain. The lithium-ion phosphate battery packs he used line the truck bed and weighs nearly 1,000 pounds. Yet he claims he can drive about 100 miles between charges, and it takes just six hours to top off the battery pack, allowing him to put an impressive 5,000 miles on the odometer in the first year of driving. It took Gadja three years to perform the conversion, and many people don’t even realize it’s electric. Though the classic Dodge truck lacks power steering, it does have LED lighting, a digital gauge cluster, and the electric motor transfers power through the original three-speed manual transmission. This is a homemade hot rod of the highest caliber, the vanguard of a new tradition of shade tree mechanics electrifying classic vehicles with powerful and practical drivetrains. There’s a whole gallery of pics of Gadja’s Dodge that you should definitely check out if you’re into this sort of thing. I have a long list of classic cars I’d like to convert into EVs, starting with my 1969 Mercury Cougar. [© gas2.org] For EVLN posts use: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble+template%2FNamlServlet.jtp%3Fmacro%3Dsearch_page%26node%3D413529%26query%3Devln%26sort%3Ddate http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2014/09/29/how-to-be-energy-smart-about-the-car-you-drive/tab/comments/ wsj writer thinks she'll only save $10/yr if she drives an EV http://www.asianage.com/delhi/city-buses-set-go-electric-012 Delhi.in city buses set to go electric http://ecomento.com/2014/10/01/europe-wide-charging-standard-to-be-adopted/ Europe-wide charging standard to be adopted + EVLN: Leaf EV powers reverse-graffiti artist's Waterloo.uk clean up {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Gadja-s-1939-Dodge-e-Truck-w-li-ion-phosphate-pack-r-100mi-tp4671952.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Leaf EV powers reverse-graffiti artist's Waterloo.uk clean up
http://popsop.com/2014/09/nissan-taps-british-artist-moose-to-create-a-reverse-graffiti-in-londons-waterloo/ Nissan taps British artist Moose to create a reverse-graffiti in London’s Waterloo Kate Belan [26th September 2014] [images http://popsop.com/wp-content/uploads/NISSAN-Moose-mural-graffiti_01.jpg Photo: Nissan commissioned the reserve-graffiti artist Moose to create a mural with a washer powered by Nissan Leaf http://popsop.com/wp-content/uploads/NISSAN-Moose-mural-graffiti_02.jpg http://popsop.com/wp-content/uploads/NISSAN-Moose-mural-graffiti_03.jpg ] Following in the footsteps of its rival Toyota, which conducted a “positive” campaign for its hybrid Prius with a knitted graffiti art in Brixton last autumn, the carmaker Nissan is also promoting its fully electrical model LEAF with the help of street art. The Nissan marketers have teamed up with the British street artist Paul Curtis aka Moose to create a mural depicting an iconic London’s skyline. The painting was created on a wall dirty with condensed car emissions in Moose’s signature reverse graffiti style—cleaning off the layer of dirt using a power washer. Unlike other graffiti artists, he never uses coloured aerosols but removes dirt and grim off walls to reveal some amazing patterns. For Nissan, Moose has sketched up and then off-painted some recognizable London’s landmarks such as Buckingham Palace, The Shard, Battersea Power Station and The London Eye, to name a few. The jet washer he used to clean the wall was powered by the Nissan LEAF via the LEAF to Home equipment—a portable device that converts electricity from the car battery into an electric power for household needs. The project aims to address the problem of air pollution in the biggest European cities caused by gasoline cars, as well as drives awareness of eco-friendly electric cars such as Nissan LEAF. Moose’s artwork for Nissan is currently on show in the subway on Station’s Approach, Waterloo. “Electric cars and alternative fuelling systems provide the brightest future we’ve ever known in the history of the automotive industry in terms of protecting our environment. It’s a pleasure to be given the opportunity to create public art in this way and I’m very pleased with the iconic simplicity of the mural and its message,” commented the artist on the collaboration with Nissan. Interestingly, a year ago in an interview to Jack McKain for the Active Soul Design blog, Moose said he never liked collaborating with ad agencies and marketers. When asked about his experience creating advertisement pieces, the artist said: “(I've done advertisement pieces) Several times. It always strikes me as weird though, that advertising provokes consumerism, and that in turn makes the very dirt that they want to write their message in. It’s their own dirt… or is it? Is it ours? I ask them that. I’ve never liked doing them, but if I use the product then it would be weird not to.” In 2014, Nissan was ranked 4th greenest global brand by Interbrand, one position higher than in 2013. [© popsop.com] http://www.easier.com/125929-nissan-cleans-up-london-with-world-s-first-car-powered-graffiti.html Nissan cleans up London with world’s first car-powered graffiti 26th September 2014 [image http://www.easier.com/uploads/cache/thumbs/1/2/5/929/1024x1024/86409/nissan-leaf.jpg Nissan LEAF ] Nissan is highlighting London’s battle with air quality by using the 100% electric Nissan LEAF – the world’s best-selling electric vehicle (EV) – to power a striking piece of street art in Waterloo, London that depicts the Capital’s iconic skyline. The car manufacturer commissioned Reverse Graffiti artist, Moose – the founder of his field – to create the mass-scale mural which was unveiled today. Unlike traditional graffiti, Moose creates his art by cleaning dirt off surfaces using a jet washer or wire brush, leaving a striking design in negative on the wall. Much of the dirt is caused by particulate matter from vehicle exhausts, levels of which often exceed guidelines and limits in busy areas of London and other European cities. The artwork – which is on show in the subway on Station’s Approach, Waterloo – includes a host of London’s most famous landmarks: Buckingham Palace, The Shard, Battersea Power Station and The London Eye, to name just a few. Produced to highlight the growing issue of poor air quality across Europe’s biggest cities, it aims to showcase how much cleaner they could be if more people adopted electric vehicles. In a world-first, the jet washer used to clean the wall was powered by the Nissan LEAF via the LEAF to Home equipment – a portable device that converts electricity from the car’s battery to provide as much as two days-worth of power to a household on a single charge. Before the artwork made its way onto the wall, Moose sketched the skyline by hand before creating stencils that pieced together to produce the finished artwork, standing some 2.5 metres tall and 10
[EVDL] EVLN: 2in1 EV motor more efficient for a warming planet
% Main benefits are in climates that use air-con the most: Drive motor and air-conditioning compressor in 1 uses more of the regen energy, less power used=boost in range, requires less material=saving weight and size, +more - ?Possible pih applications? % http://phys.org/news/2014-09-scientists-award-in-motor-electric.html Scientists invent award winning 2-in-1 motor for electric cars [2014-09-30] [image http://cdn.phys.org/newman/gfx/news/2014/ntuandgerman.jpg Satheesh Kumar, research scholar from the Energy Research Institute @ NTU holds the modified air-conditioning compressor which is now integrated with the engine of the electric vehicle. Credit: Nanyang Technological University NTU and German scientists invent award winning 2-in-1 motor for electric cars ] Scientists from Nanyang Technological University (NTU) and German Aerospace Centre (DLR) have invented a 2-in-1 electric motor which increases the range of electric vehicles. This innovative engine integrates the traditional electric motor with the air-con compressor, typically two separate units. This novel, space-saving design allows the use of bigger batteries, which can increase the range of electric vehicles by an additional 15 to 20 per cent. Prof Subodh Mhaisalkar, Executive Director of the Energy Research Institute @ NTU (ERI@N), said: The biggest challenge with electric cars in tropical megacities is the range that they can travel on a full-charge, because their batteries are needed to power both the engine and the air-conditioning. In tropical countries like Singapore, up to half the battery's capacity is used to power the air-conditioning system. The new 2-in-1 design allows the electric motor to be more efficient in powering the car's wheels, while its integrated air-con compressor uses less power due to synergy between the engine and the compressor, which can also tap on energy regenerated directly from the car's brakes. With the potential boost in range through the efficient use of energy, the joint invention recently won the Best Originality Award in the TECO Green Tech International Contest held in Taiwan. The competition saw 19 entries from top universities including Boston University, University of California (UCLA), Waseda University, and universities from China and Russia. NTU's partner, DLR, the German aerospace and space agency will conduct further tests and improvements to the new engine with the aim of eventual commercialisation. The team is applying for a Proof-Of-Concept (POC) grant in Singapore. After the development of the prototype, test bedding and refinements will be done at DLR's facilities in Germany. Prof Mhaisalkar, said this innovation will pave the way for extending the range of electric cars, as the integrated design combines the two of the most important parts of an electric car, thus reducing its complexity into one highly efficient solution. With the global population of electric vehicles set grow rapidly to 20 million in 2020, a more efficient electric motor cum air-con compressor, will enable cars to travel further on a single charge, added Prof Mhaisalkar. This energy efficiency will in turn reduce overall greenhouse emissions and promote sustainable transportation solutions. This integrated design solution for air conditioning will go a long way in reducing the range anxiety of drivers, reduce maintenance costs, and will save time and money for the driver. For the automobile manufacturers, the new electric motor will also cost less to produce, as it requires less material than its counterparts. Both the weight and size of the electric motor are reduced, creating more space for other components such as an auxiliary battery source. Dr Michael Schier, from DLR's Institute of Vehicle Concepts, said: For electric vehicles, the air conditioning uses a lot of electrical energy, thereby cutting down the range of electric cars by up to 50 per cent. To increase the energy efficiency and therefore the range of electric cars, the thermal management and the integration of additional functions into existing powertrain components play a major role. By integrating the refrigerant compressor directly into the electric motor, we save components, weight and cost. Simultaneously, the more regenerative braking part of the kinetic energy is passed directly to the refrigerant compressor and thus the efficiency is further increased, added Dr Schier. Research scholar Mr Satheesh Kumar from the Energy Research Institute @ NTU said his award-winning, integrated electric motor challenges conventional design that goes way back to the 1960s when air-conditioning first became popular. Back then, air-conditioning was something new that was an add-on feature to a car's combustion engine, said the 29-year-old Singaporean. Since we are now designing electric vehicles from scratch, I see no reason why we should keep both units separate. As we have proven, combining the two gives us synergy – a more efficient use of
[EVDL] EVLN: Spock-n-Kirk shill for e-Golf EV (videos)
% Can you do Star Trek's Shin salute? % http://www.autoevolution.com/news/mr-spock-and-captain-kirk-will-promote-volkswagen-s-e-golf-video-87177.html Mr. Spock and Captain Kirk Will Promote the Volkswagen e-Golf (Video) by Mihnea Radu 29th September 2014 [images http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/mr-spock-and-captain-kirk-will-promote-volkswagen-s-e-golf-video-87177_1.jpg http://www.autoevolution.com/news/mr-spock-and-captain-kirk-will-promote-volkswagen-s-e-golf-video-87177.html# gallery videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHj_ZRRETi0 #vwfuture: Selfie Nimoy 2 Volkswagen Sep 29, 2014 Leonard Nemoy kommt aus der Zukunft. Was er jetzt bei #vwfuture erlebt hat, beschreibt er so... Leonard Nemoy is a man of the future and describes what he just experienced with #vwfuture with a single word. Check it out yourself! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seBkbxufLyc #vwfuture: Selfie Shatner 1 Volkswagen Sep 29, 2014 William Shatner hat seine neue Liebe gefunden - den e-Golf. #vwfuture #emobility #eGolf William Shatner found his new love - the e-Golf. #vwfurure #emobility #eGolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHCrw_5hQk #vwfuture: Comeback Volkswagen Sep 29, 2014 William Shatner und Leonard Nemoy alias Cpt. Kirk und Spock gemeinsam an einem Set. Planen beide ein Comeback? #vwfuture William Shatner and Leonard Nemoy alias Cpt. Kirk and Spock together on a film set. Is their comeback imminent? #vwfuture ] Because the Vulcan salute and the Volkswagen logo have so much in common, it's been decided that Mr Spock and James T. Kirk are the perfect people to spread Volkswagen's message from the future. The German carmaker's very first electric car, the e-Golf, is about to hit American showrooms, and two legendary Star Trek actors are going to star in its marketing campaign. The commercials aren't quite ready to air yet, but we're the two actors seem to be very impressed with the electric hatchback, which is always a good sign. Starting at $35,445 plus destination, the e-Golf is going to be a tough sale to make for VW dealers. However, this Nissan Leaf rival has the right badge and plenty of standard equipment to make up for its hefty price. Last time we saw Leonard Nimoy, he played a very dignified future version of Mr. Spock in the reboot of Star Trek as a Hollywood blockbuster. As for William Shatner, well he hasn't aged as well, but since he's 83 and a big car fan, we'll let that slide. Not that this has any relevance to our story about electric Golfs, but we thought you Trekkies (that's what Star Trek fans are called) might want to know that Nimoy based the Vulcan salute on a Jewish blessing sign made with two hands in the same position as a symbol of the Hebrew letter Shin, meaning Almighty (God). It's kind of funny how a religious symbol ties in with the Hippie generation, their VW Buses in the 60s and 70s and now an electric vehicle from the same company. [© autoevolution.com] http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-jewish-stars-of-star-trek-shill-for-vw/ The Jewish stars of ‘Star Trek’ shill for VW By Julie Wiener September 30, 2014 [images http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/03/Leonard_Nimoy_William_Shatner_Star_Trek_1968-e1364348061718.jpg William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy to plug car for automaker that cooperated with Nazis Leonard Nimoy (left) and William Shatner in a 'Star Trek' poster, 1968 (photo credit: Wikimedia Commons) http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/06/1931-1945-volkswagen_beetle-8.jpg Hitler presides over the dedication of the Volkswagen factory in Wolfsburg. (photo credit: public domain) ] Last year Volkswagen donated more than a million dollars to an international youth center at Auschwitz. In 2011 it donated $1 million to the Anti-Defamation League. And in 2009 it was reported that the Beetle — that iconic VW creation — was actually designed by a Jew. But the German automaker — which, like other industries in the Third Reich, cooperated with the Nazis and has been boycotted by many Jews as a result — may have finally figured out a strategy to put the stigma of its past behind it. It has recruited both the stars of the original “Star Trek” series to plug its new car, the e-Golf, in the United States. According to Auto Evolution, William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy — both Jewish — will star in the marketing campaign for VW’s first electric car. The two were apparently tapped because the “Vulcan salute and the Volkswagen logo have so much in common,” the auto industry publication reported. That salute, as any Jewish Trekkie worth his salt will know, is similar to a Jewish blessing sign – two hands forming the Hebrew letter Shin — that frequently appears on Jewish gravestones. Could the twin appearance of Spock and Kirk convince diehard boycotters of German cars (who, as journalist Jeffrey Goldberg noted in a recent Atlantic column, rarely boycott any other German products) to drop their grudge and buy the wagon of der Volk? Bimah me up, Scottie!
Re: [EVDL] afk ...
For my own selfish reasons, I hope your recovery is much faster than anticipated! b On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I had queued this message for 10/8 my last day, but it might be better to post it now even though we all expect the best for the scheduled evdl server downtime/changes. Because of the scheduled down time http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVDL-downtime-tp4671941.html I may be posting some additional newswire items to offset the downtime (there may be more than the usual two news posts per day I usually do). Also ... On Oct 8, I will be going under the surgeon's knife to hopefully follow my request to only remove the left half of my thyroid that has a goiter (growth). Afterward, I will be in a VA hospital bed (which does not allow public WiFi, Internet access), recovering before being released to return home. So, to some it may seem like I have done another disappearing act/ falling off the face of the planet (when really I will be going through Internet withdrawals). While everyone involved keeps saying all will be well the likelihood of problems are minimal, there is a chance that I may become a 'bricked' salvaged Tesla that has no hope of being re-enabled. If so, at least I got to have a great time and see all the EVs at last month's world record EVent http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-507-EVs-In-One-Place-New-Guinness-World-Record-eaasv-org-NDEW-tp4671722.html If all goes well, after being sent home and recovering a bit from an extra smile on my throat, I will be posting what newswires I have queued, and also playing newswire catch-up for the x-number of the days the VA kept me afk (incommunicado). . ~/__|o\__ '@- @'---(= Get Amp'd Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter Electric Vehicle List News brucedp.150m.com *Originator of the above ASCII art % Renewable Energy for your Electric Vehicle % (Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA) ... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=afk -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/afk-tp4671942.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141004/f65c328e/attachment.pgp ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] afk ...
Bruce, I too hope that you recover quickly. I enjoy the posts that you generate. I also hope that you are grooming someone to help with the continuation of these posts during any future absences. I am certain that I speak for many viewers of the EVDL when I say that your posts are among the most relevant and interesting. Again, I wish you the best of luck with your procedure. -Tom On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: For my own selfish reasons, I hope your recovery is much faster than anticipated! b On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I had queued this message for 10/8 my last day, but it might be better to post it now even though we all expect the best for the scheduled evdl server downtime/changes. Because of the scheduled down time http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVDL-downtime-tp4671941.html I may be posting some additional newswire items to offset the downtime (there may be more than the usual two news posts per day I usually do). Also ... On Oct 8, I will be going under the surgeon's knife to hopefully follow my request to only remove the left half of my thyroid that has a goiter (growth). Afterward, I will be in a VA hospital bed (which does not allow public WiFi, Internet access), recovering before being released to return home. So, to some it may seem like I have done another disappearing act/ falling off the face of the planet (when really I will be going through Internet withdrawals). While everyone involved keeps saying all will be well the likelihood of problems are minimal, there is a chance that I may become a 'bricked' salvaged Tesla that has no hope of being re-enabled. If so, at least I got to have a great time and see all the EVs at last month's world record EVent http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-507-EVs-In-One-Place-New-Guinness-World-Record-eaasv-org-NDEW-tp4671722.html If all goes well, after being sent home and recovering a bit from an extra smile on my throat, I will be posting what newswires I have queued, and also playing newswire catch-up for the x-number of the days the VA kept me afk (incommunicado). . ~/__|o\__ '@- @'---(= Get Amp'd Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter Electric Vehicle List News brucedp.150m.com *Originator of the above ASCII art % Renewable Energy for your Electric Vehicle % (Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA) ... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=afk -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/afk-tp4671942.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141004/f65c328e/attachment.pgp ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Remember, it is not that the glass is half empty, in reality, the glass is merely twice the size that it needs to be! -TNT'82 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141004/a252d309/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Really efficient electric drive trains and what they are?
When I saw the Stella it made growling ticking noises that stopped after the vehicle made some speed. They said these motors were 98 % efficient. I thought the run of the mill ADC motor with a Curtis controller was 90 % and brushless were a bit more efficient. Are these motors worth the 10's of thousands they cost? Are there motorcycle/bicycle hub motors we can buy that are very efficient? Each of the Stella motors are 20kw. Some bicycle hub motors are very powerful. 10 or more kw. Is there a loss of efficiency with these new powerful motors? What do I need to compliment a very aerodynamic body/go freeway speeds not suck the life out of my batteries? Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141004/2bbcdf39/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)
I gave myself an idea. Fill the battery boxes with a fluid. If the fluid is leaking after a wreck, the battery boxes have been compromised, so the car shouldn't be driven. Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 at 1:05 AM From: via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video) It's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. The big standard for gasoline wrecks is is it leaking any fluids? If it is leaking any fluids, the vehicle gets towed away and no attempt is made to start it. An EV does not have so obvious an indicator. A wreck could expose some high voltage wiring, hold shut the overpressure caps, dent some cells, sever a few parallel connections, etc. For all of these the EV might run just fine, might even look fine, but not be safe. Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 at 12:52 PM From: Roger Stockton via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video) ... The energy content of gasoline is 32.4MJ/L, and 1MJ=0.28kWh; so, a 10 (US) gallon tank of ordinary gasoline contains 343kWh of energy, and yet every other auto manufacturer has *millions* of vehicles on the road with a manually-resettable-by-anyone inertia switch to disable this energy source in the event of a sufficiently serious accident. Yes, a means of automatically disabling/disconnecting the traction pack in the event of an accident makes sense for ~any~ EV, however, there is no obvious justification for this feature not being manually resettable without the assistance of the manufacturer. It seems reasonable that the vehicle might have the intelligence to refuse to re-enable should its onboard diagnostics determine that something is unsafe or defective with its systems (in the same way that a manually-resettable circuit breaker will immediately re-open if the a fault condition persists), but again it is not obvious that there is any need for the involvement of the manufacturer. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA][http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA]]) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)