Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Why would anyone want to ride 300 miles on a motorcycle without stopping anyway? I think motorcycles are more for local travel and fun. Not boring 300 mile long trips. I don't think people would routinely ride it 300 miles at a time. But just like ICE cars that can go hundreds of miles without refueling, people want the long range without recharging "just in case". It's a comfort factor; they don't need it every day, but want it to be there when they need it. I live in the midwest, and routinely drive my EVs. They have a range of about 100 miles; enough to go anywhere in my local area. But if I want to drive to (say) the Twin Cities and back, it can easily be a 200 mile round trip. Our Leaf can't do it. In theory, I could charge someplace in the Minneapolis/St. Paul before heading back; but the places I go don't have fast-charging facilities, so I'd have to stay overnight to get enough charge to get back home. In these circumstances, I have to take my ICE. I'd rather take my EV, but can't until it has more range. -- The most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing one that is just good enough. -- Eric S. Raymond -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
Alan Arrison via EV wrote: Good luck with that. Not going to happen. Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles. Well now, I wouldn't say that... Cedric Lynch built a feet-forward electric motorcycle over 20 years ago that could go over 300km on its 5kwh pack. Given the advances in today's batteries over those he had back then, 500km (310 miles) is clearly possible. http://www.bikeweb.com/node/3254 -- The most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing one that is just good enough. -- Eric S. Raymond -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
Why would anyone want to ride 300 miles on a motorcycle without stopping anyway.? I think motorcycles are more for local travel and fun. Not boring 300 mile long trips. Bob On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > Good luck with that. Not going to happen. > > Al > > > Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a >> difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of >> the >> car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the >> desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles. >> >> >> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group > /NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180604/8bcc1720/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
Good luck with that. Not going to happen. Al Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
A small/medium motorcycle and rider generates approximately the same drag at 60mph as a Nissan Leaf. You're not going to get 200 miles of range from a smaller battery at realistic speeds. On 4 June 2018 at 19:52, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html#agal_1 > Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range > 30 May 2018 Daniel Patrascu > > [images > https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993_1.jpg > > https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range_1.jpg > Mankame EP-1 12 photos > ] > > Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a > difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the > car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the > desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles. > > Being as they are, average electric motorcycles usually have a range of a > little over 200 miles (321 km). But an Indian company which goes by the name > of Mankame begs to differ. > > By using a high-density, liquid-cooled 18.4kWh battery pack, combined with > regenerative braking, the company says its bike should be more than capable > of reaching well above that modest range of current bikes. > > The motorcycle’s rear wheel is driven by a Kevlar reinforced belt drive, > connected to a 40KW motor that delivers 180 Nm at the shaft and 432 Nm at > the wheel. That should give it “quiet operation and increased torque-jerk > tolerance and eliminate any lubrication needs,” Mankame claims. > > The motorcycle will be called Mankame EP-1, and it does not yet exist as a > physical model. The company behind it plans to launch a crowdfunding > Indiegogo campaign for the bike on July 1st. > > "Our vision is to build the most reliable electric Sport-bike in the world > that beats petrol powered motorbikes in their own field," claim the Indians > on the Indiegogo page. > > There will be at least three versions of the bike offered. The one providing > for the biggest range and a top speed of 156 mph (251 km/h) would be priced > at $13,000. > > Two cheaper versions would also be on the table: a $10,500, 14.97 kWh with > 111 mph (180 km/h) and the entry-level $8,500 bike equipped with a 12.16 kWh > battery and a top speed of only 74 mph (120 km/h). > > Neither of the three can at the time be ordered, as Mankame awaits the > official start of the crowdfunding campaign. > [© autoevolution.com] > > > https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html > Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range > 30 May 2018 Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is > not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The > size of the car allows for … > https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news-pictures-600x/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993-7.jpg > > > + > https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/why-electric-motorcycles-shouldn-e2-80-99t-be-compared-to-electric-cars/ar-AAy1zC7 > Why Electric Motorcycles Shouldn’t Be Compared To Electric Cars > Why Zero isn’t the “Tesla of Motorcycles” and why the media needs to stop > comparing electric apples to electric oranges. With an ever-growing number > of … > https://img-s-msnhttps://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAy19bO.img > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/archive/ > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-mankamemotors-com-EP-1-e-Motorcycle-in-r-500km-ts-251kph-tp4690245.html EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range 30 May 2018 Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned ... enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach ... https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993_1.jpg http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-BMW-iNext-e-SUV-production-in-2021-tp4690246.html EVLN: BMW iNext e-SUV production in 2021 Who Thought The BMW iNext EV Wouldn't Be An SUV? May 30 2018 Along with its electric powerplant, the iNext will also showcase BMW's ... What's for certain is that the iNext must be a hit, unlike BMW's current EV offering, the i3. https://dmi3w0goirzgw.cloudfront.net/gallery-images/840x560/429000/800/429868.jpg + https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/why-electric-motorcycles-shouldn-e2-80-99t-be-compared-to-electric-cars/ar-AAy1zC7 Why Electric Motorcycles Shouldn’t Be Compared To Electric Cars Why Zero isn’t the “Tesla of Motorcycles” and why the media needs to stop comparing electric apples to electric oranges. With an ever-growing number of … https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAy19bO.img https://energy.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/power/jeep-to-offer-range-of-electric-vehicles-by-2022/64423376 Jeep to offer range of electric vehicles by 2022 June 02, 2018 New Delhi: Jeep brand chief Mike Manley says all Jeep vehicles will have an electrified version by the end of the company's five-year business plan to make the brand more environmentally friendly ... Jeep will enter three new segments: a small city-car size SUV targeting customers accustomed to sedans and hatchback, larger SUVs ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Tesla-sez-paint-shop-fire-No-problemo-cnbc-fake-news-tp4690244.html Tesla sez paint shop fire No_problemo> (cnbc=fake news) Tesla downplays reports of fire aftereffects in factory paint shop 2018/06/01 Tesla downplays reports of fire aftereffects in factory paint shop CNBC reports that Tesla did not report that fire to the Fremont Fire Department ... For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html#agal_1 Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range 30 May 2018 Daniel Patrascu [images https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993_1.jpg https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range_1.jpg Mankame EP-1 12 photos ] Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles. Being as they are, average electric motorcycles usually have a range of a little over 200 miles (321 km). But an Indian company which goes by the name of Mankame begs to differ. By using a high-density, liquid-cooled 18.4kWh battery pack, combined with regenerative braking, the company says its bike should be more than capable of reaching well above that modest range of current bikes. The motorcycle’s rear wheel is driven by a Kevlar reinforced belt drive, connected to a 40KW motor that delivers 180 Nm at the shaft and 432 Nm at the wheel. That should give it “quiet operation and increased torque-jerk tolerance and eliminate any lubrication needs,” Mankame claims. The motorcycle will be called Mankame EP-1, and it does not yet exist as a physical model. The company behind it plans to launch a crowdfunding Indiegogo campaign for the bike on July 1st. "Our vision is to build the most reliable electric Sport-bike in the world that beats petrol powered motorbikes in their own field," claim the Indians on the Indiegogo page. There will be at least three versions of the bike offered. The one providing for the biggest range and a top speed of 156 mph (251 km/h) would be priced at $13,000. Two cheaper versions would also be on the table: a $10,500, 14.97 kWh with 111 mph (180 km/h) and the entry-level $8,500 bike equipped with a 12.16 kWh battery and a top speed of only 74 mph (120 km/h). Neither of the three can at the time be ordered, as Mankame awaits the official start of the crowdfunding campaign. [© autoevolution.com] https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range 30 May 2018 Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the car allows for … https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news-pictures-600x/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993-7.jpg + https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/why-electric-motorcycles-shouldn-e2-80-99t-be-compared-to-electric-cars/ar-AAy1zC7 Why Electric Motorcycles Shouldn’t Be Compared To Electric Cars Why Zero isn’t the “Tesla of Motorcycles” and why the media needs to stop comparing electric apples to electric oranges. With an ever-growing number of … https://img-s-msnhttps://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAy19bO.img For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)