Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

Why would anyone want to ride 300 miles on a motorcycle without stopping
anyway?  I think motorcycles are more for local travel and fun.  Not boring 300 
mile
long trips.


I don't think people would routinely ride it 300 miles at a time. But 
just like ICE cars that can go hundreds of miles without refueling, 
people want the long range without recharging "just in case". It's a 
comfort factor; they don't need it every day, but want it to be there 
when they need it.


I live in the midwest, and routinely drive my EVs. They have a range of 
about 100 miles; enough to go anywhere in my local area. But if I want 
to drive to (say) the Twin Cities and back, it can easily be a 200 mile 
round trip. Our Leaf can't do it. In theory, I could charge someplace in 
the Minneapolis/St. Paul before heading back; but the places I go don't 
have fast-charging facilities, so I'd have to stay overnight to get 
enough charge to get back home.


In these circumstances, I have to take my ICE. I'd rather take my EV, 
but can't until it has more range.


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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Alan Arrison via EV wrote:

Good luck with that. Not going to happen.

Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not 
such a
difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size 
of the
car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can 
have the

desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles.


Well now, I wouldn't say that...

Cedric Lynch built a feet-forward electric motorcycle over 20 years ago 
that could go over 300km on its 5kwh pack. Given the advances in today's 
batteries over those he had back then, 500km (310 miles) is clearly 
possible.


http://www.bikeweb.com/node/3254

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Why would anyone want to ride 300 miles on a motorcycle without stopping
anyway.?
I think motorcycles are more for local travel and fun.  Not boring 300 mile
long trips.
Bob

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Alan Arrison via EV 
wrote:

> Good luck with that. Not going to happen.
>
> Al
>
>
> Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a
>> difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of
>> the
>> car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the
>> desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread Alan Arrison via EV

Good luck with that. Not going to happen.

Al



Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a
difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the
car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the
desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles.




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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Compton via EV
A small/medium motorcycle and rider generates approximately the same
drag at 60mph as a Nissan Leaf.

You're not going to get 200 miles of range from a smaller battery at
realistic speeds.

On 4 June 2018 at 19:52, brucedp5 via EV  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html#agal_1
> Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range
> 30 May 2018  Daniel Patrascu
>
> [images
> https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993_1.jpg
>
> https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range_1.jpg
> Mankame EP-1  12 photos
> ]
>
> Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a
> difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the
> car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the
> desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles.
>
> Being as they are, average electric motorcycles usually have a range of a
> little over 200 miles (321 km). But an Indian company which goes by the name
> of Mankame begs to differ.
>
> By using a high-density, liquid-cooled 18.4kWh battery pack, combined with
> regenerative braking, the company says its bike should be more than capable
> of reaching well above that modest range of current bikes.
>
> The motorcycle’s rear wheel is driven by a Kevlar reinforced belt drive,
> connected to a 40KW motor that delivers 180 Nm at the shaft and 432 Nm at
> the wheel. That should give it “quiet operation and increased torque-jerk
> tolerance and eliminate any lubrication needs,” Mankame claims.
>
> The motorcycle will be called Mankame EP-1, and it does not yet exist as a
> physical model. The company behind it plans to launch a crowdfunding
> Indiegogo campaign for the bike on July 1st.
>
> "Our vision is to build the most reliable electric Sport-bike in the world
> that beats petrol powered motorbikes in their own field," claim the Indians
> on the Indiegogo page.
>
> There will be at least three versions of the bike offered. The one providing
> for the biggest range and a top speed of 156 mph (251 km/h) would be priced
> at $13,000.
>
> Two cheaper versions would also be on the table: a $10,500, 14.97 kWh with
> 111 mph (180 km/h) and the entry-level $8,500 bike equipped with a 12.16 kWh
> battery and a top speed of only 74 mph (120 km/h).
>
> Neither of the three can at the time be ordered, as Mankame awaits the
> official start of the crowdfunding campaign.
> [© autoevolution.com]
>
>
> https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html
> Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range
> 30 May 2018  Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is
> not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The
> size of the car allows for …
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> Why Electric Motorcycles Shouldn’t Be Compared To Electric Cars
> Why Zero isn’t the “Tesla of Motorcycles” and why the media needs to stop
> comparing electric apples to electric oranges. With an ever-growing number
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20180604

2018-06-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV


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EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph
Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range
30 May 2018  Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is
not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned ...
enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach
...
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993_1.jpg


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Why Zero isn’t the “Tesla of Motorcycles” and why the media needs to stop
comparing electric apples to electric oranges. With an ever-growing number
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[EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html#agal_1
Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range
30 May 2018  Daniel Patrascu

[images  
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993_1.jpg

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range_1.jpg
Mankame EP-1  12 photos
]

Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a
difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the
car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the
desired reach. Not the same can be said about electric motorcycles.

Being as they are, average electric motorcycles usually have a range of a
little over 200 miles (321 km). But an Indian company which goes by the name
of Mankame begs to differ.

By using a high-density, liquid-cooled 18.4kWh battery pack, combined with
regenerative braking, the company says its bike should be more than capable
of reaching well above that modest range of current bikes.  

The motorcycle’s rear wheel is driven by a Kevlar reinforced belt drive,
connected to a 40KW motor that delivers 180 Nm at the shaft and 432 Nm at
the wheel. That should give it “quiet operation and increased torque-jerk
tolerance and eliminate any lubrication needs,” Mankame claims.

The motorcycle will be called Mankame EP-1, and it does not yet exist as a
physical model. The company behind it plans to launch a crowdfunding
Indiegogo campaign for the bike on July 1st.

"Our vision is to build the most reliable electric Sport-bike in the world
that beats petrol powered motorbikes in their own field," claim the Indians
on the Indiegogo page.

There will be at least three versions of the bike offered. The one providing
for the biggest range and a top speed of 156 mph (251 km/h) would be priced
at $13,000.

Two cheaper versions would also be on the table: a $10,500, 14.97 kWh with
111 mph (180 km/h) and the entry-level $8,500 bike equipped with a 12.16 kWh
battery and a top speed of only 74 mph (120 km/h).

Neither of the three can at the time be ordered, as Mankame awaits the
official start of the crowdfunding campaign. 
[© autoevolution.com]


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993.html
Indian Electric Motorcycle Goes for 310 Miles Range
30 May 2018  Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is
not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The
size of the car allows for …
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news-pictures-600x/indian-electric-motorcycle-goes-for-310-miles-range-125993-7.jpg


+
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/why-electric-motorcycles-shouldn-e2-80-99t-be-compared-to-electric-cars/ar-AAy1zC7
Why Electric Motorcycles Shouldn’t Be Compared To Electric Cars
Why Zero isn’t the “Tesla of Motorcycles” and why the media needs to stop
comparing electric apples to electric oranges. With an ever-growing number
of …
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