Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Paul Compton via EV]

On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 05:33, Robert Bruninga via EV  wrote:

> My son just told me his commute is 2 miles each way.  ANd he agreed to take
> one of my ev's so that at least it is on the road and being seen rather
> than just rotting away in my driveway.  He lives in an apt and has no place
> to plug in.  So 2 miles a day from the sun is well worth it.  Bob

That's not a commute.

That's a walk.

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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Lee,
That is exactly the purpose of the small solar panels that you can buy used on 
Craigslist or Ebay. VW has been shipping their vehicles with a small solar 
panel plugged into the lighter plug, to keep the aux battery topped off during 
the weeks or months the car is sitting somewhere waiting to be moved to the 
next place.

Also the Nissan Leaf can be had with a small solar panel on the rear spoiler – 
again not for charging it large pack, but to keep the 12V battery topped up. 
Unfortunately some 2013 are still able to run down their battery, despite 
sitting outside in the sun all day. In that case, it helps to get a new battery 
and to check vampire circuits in the car such as the (no longer useful) 
telemetrics system.
Cor.

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From: Lee Hart via EV
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Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
> The usual waste of time and money. I'm sure the numbers are theoretical
> best case scenario.

One thing they don't talk about is how much power the car takes just 
from sitting.

I was surprised to discover that my Prius draws about 30ma from its 12v 
battery continuously when parked. It's needed to power all the "always 
on" vampire loads, like the keyless entry, secruity system, clock, radio 
presets, odometer, etc. That's enough to run down a new 12v battery in 4 
weeks or so -- less if the battery is old or weak.

So I installed a small PV panel under the rear window. It's wired to the 
12v battery through a diode and fuse. It produces about 200ma peak. 
That's not enough to overcharge the battery; but it is enough to keep it 
charged even if the car is parked for weeks while we are on vacation.

Even if this is all the Hyundai PV panel does, that's still enough to be 
useful.

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and a sterner sense of justice than we do. -- Wendell Berry
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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Robert Bruninga via EV]

My son just told me his commute is 2 miles each way.  ANd he agreed to take
one of my ev's so that at least it is on the road and being seen rather
than just rotting away in my driveway.  He lives in an apt and has no place
to plug in.  So 2 miles a day from the sun is well worth it.  Bob

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 8:52 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
wrote:

>  Do the math. 1100 miles a year is significant. Lawrence Rhodes
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2019, 4:50:41 PM PDT, paul dove <
> dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>  2 to 3 miles a day? Hardly worth it
>
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> > On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
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> > Baby steps.  Lawrence Rhodes
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/hyundai-launches-car-with-a-roof-based-solar-charging-system.html
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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

This seems to be a step farther than the Fisker.

- Mark

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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
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> Baby steps.  Lawrence Rhodes 
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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Lee Hart via EV]

Alan Arrison via EV wrote:

The usual waste of time and money. I'm sure the numbers are theoretical
best case scenario.


One thing they don't talk about is how much power the car takes just 
from sitting.


I was surprised to discover that my Prius draws about 30ma from its 12v 
battery continuously when parked. It's needed to power all the "always 
on" vampire loads, like the keyless entry, secruity system, clock, radio 
presets, odometer, etc. That's enough to run down a new 12v battery in 4 
weeks or so -- less if the battery is old or weak.


So I installed a small PV panel under the rear window. It's wired to the 
12v battery through a diode and fuse. It produces about 200ma peak. 
That's not enough to overcharge the battery; but it is enough to keep it 
charged even if the car is parked for weeks while we are on vacation.


Even if this is all the Hyundai PV panel does, that's still enough to be 
useful.


--
Whether we or our politicians know it or not, Nature is party to all
our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory,
and a sterner sense of justice than we do. -- Wendell Berry
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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[paul dove via EV]

2 to 3 miles a day? Hardly worth it

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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
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> Baby steps.  Lawrence Rhodes 
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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Alan Arrison via EV]

The usual waste of time and money. I'm sure the numbers are theoretical 
best case scenario.



On 8/6/2019 8:52 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

  Do the math. 1100 miles a year is significant. Lawrence Rhodes

 On Tuesday, August 6, 2019, 4:50:41 PM PDT, paul dove 
 wrote:
  
  2 to 3 miles a day? Hardly worth it


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On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:

Baby steps.  Lawrence Rhodes 
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/hyundai-launches-car-with-a-roof-based-solar-charging-system.html
   
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Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

 Do the math. 1100 miles a year is significant. Lawrence Rhodes

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019, 4:50:41 PM PDT, paul dove 
 wrote:  
 
 2 to 3 miles a day? Hardly worth it

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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
> 
> Baby steps.  Lawrence Rhodes 
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/hyundai-launches-car-with-a-roof-based-solar-charging-system.html

  
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[EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

Baby steps.  Lawrence Rhodes 
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