Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
Simple setup to turn on EVSE: http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52823highlight=J1772+etischer -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/two-chargers-in-parallel-tp4661983p4662095.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
Hi Jerry, I sell the inlet for $110 The inlet can carry 120 or 240. It depends on how your plug is configured. Several people have bought my J1772 Adapter Box and an extra Plug from me. They install the J1772 Adapter Box so that they can use J1772 Level II EVSE's when they are available and configure the extra plug for a 120v outlet. Go to http://tucsonev.com/darren.html and look at the bottom picture. Darren had a 120/15A plug to J1772 adapter cord so he charge from a regular 120vac wall outlet. I also have a J1772 Adapter Box fully assembled except for the plug to your car for $190. I think that is the lowest price for an assembled unit. As I said before, email me for more info. Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com -Original Message- From: ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of jerry freedomev Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:41 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability Hi Tom and All, Thanks everyone for the help. It looks like the best at the moment is the $120 inlet? and the simple handshake circuit. Sadly it looks like the neutral pin won't support 120vac legs which would have made fast charging, at least my light EV's, lighter, less costly. Thanks again, Jerry Dycus From: tomw tomofreno2...@yahoo.com To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability Simple setup to turn on EVSE: http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52823highlight =J1772+etischer -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion- list.413529.n4.nabble.com/two-chargers-in-parallel- tp4661983p4662095.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- evdl.org/attachments/20130327/efe8e972/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
Hi Jerry,
Here's the spec:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772
That tells you what size resistors to use.
-corbin
On Mar 23, 2013, at 5:36 PM, jerry freedomev freedo...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Corbin and All,
I rather like flipping switches so
the problems mentioned are not much for me to handle. Does anyone know where
a diagram of hooking up and what size resistor, diode to use?
Those who know me know I always
like the most simple, least likely to fail, fast to repair, lowest cost.
I'll incorporate a timer in it and maybe a latching relay to cut off at 85%
full charge voltage.
Thanks,
Jerry
Dycus
From: corbin dunn cor...@corbinstreehouse.com
To: jerry freedomev freedo...@yahoo.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging
ability
On Mar 23, 2013, at 9:05 AM, jerry freedomev freedo...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Bruce, Tom and All,
Thanks for the help guys.
Just what I was looking for.
So I assume the
resistor/diode handshake trick is no longer good enough?
It is still sufficient, however, if you pull the plug while charging your car
won't sense that and stop drawing power. If you implement the J1772 right,
you should be able to stop the charger from charging as soon as the user goes
to unplug by detecting when the user pushes down on the button to pull out
the plug. IMHO, this is much safer than the designs that require more manual
work, such as stopping your charger (or turning down the power that it is
drawing), flipping a switch to change the resistor/diode combo (turning off
the EVSE contactor), and then unplugging. Why do all that when you can write
some software to do it?
corbin
For Tom my new EV is
powered by an old Citi-car motor , charged with the Citi-car charger that I
used in the 3wh Ewoody . Or as Bob Rice use to call, the Lumberghini ;^P
I'll probably put the
inlet under the body in front and an Anderson 50amp DC connector in the rear
for 120vac charging and the range extender if fast charging isn't available.
Thanks,
Jerry Dycus
From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter bruce...@operamail.com
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
[ref
http://modularevpower.com/
Modular EV Power
]
This looks like what Tom bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/J1772-UL-75-Amp-Vehicle-Inlet-AND-AVC2-module-/251244113764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7f50ef64
J1772 UL 75 Amp Vehicle Inlet AND AVC2 module
Jerry mentioned that he wants to keep cost down, so perhaps nice looking
door, a ugly but functional design would be to mount the inlet on a
strong part of the body, and just use a cheap dust cap to protect the
protruding j1772 inlet when not plugged in
http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=559
http://www.amazon.com/QC-101-Fernco-1-1-Flexible-Cap/dp/B002KHZCMC
QC-101 Fernco 1-1/2 Flexible Cap
{brucedp.150m.com}
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 09:48 PM, Tom Keenan wrote:
To add J1772 Level 2 capability to my old Citicar, it required three
items - a 240v charger, a J1772 inlet, and a vehicle-side control board.
Since I also wanted to use 120v at times, the charger needed to be
multi-volt capable. I used an ElCon 2500 charger (2.5 kW, 90 to 250v
input). This charger was about $700.
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
Wiring the charger to the inlet is straightforward. Wiring the control
board to the vehicle / J1772 inlet is easy as well. Hardest part is
deciding where to mount the inlet, and making some sort of door to cover
it when not in use.
The Citicar went from a 120v only, 1.4 kW charger (about 4 miles of
charge per hour of charging) to a 120 - 240v, J1772 capable 2.5 kW
charging system (about 10 miles of charge per hour of charging).
I'll be doing much
Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
Hi Bruce, Tom and All,
Thanks for the help guys.
Just what I was looking for.
So I assume the
resistor/diode handshake trick is no longer good enough?
For Tom my new EV is powered
by an old Citi-car motor , charged with the Citi-car charger that I used in the
3wh Ewoody . Or as Bob Rice use to call, the Lumberghini ;^P
I'll probably put the inlet
under the body in front and an Anderson 50amp DC connector in the rear for
120vac charging and the range extender if fast charging isn't available.
Thanks,
Jerry Dycus
From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter bruce...@operamail.com
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
[ref
http://modularevpower.com/
Modular EV Power
]
This looks like what Tom bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/J1772-UL-75-Amp-Vehicle-Inlet-AND-AVC2-module-/251244113764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7f50ef64
J1772 UL 75 Amp Vehicle Inlet AND AVC2 module
Jerry mentioned that he wants to keep cost down, so perhaps nice looking
door, a ugly but functional design would be to mount the inlet on a
strong part of the body, and just use a cheap dust cap to protect the
protruding j1772 inlet when not plugged in
http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=559
http://www.amazon.com/QC-101-Fernco-1-1-Flexible-Cap/dp/B002KHZCMC
QC-101 Fernco 1-1/2 Flexible Cap
{brucedp.150m.com}
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 09:48 PM, Tom Keenan wrote:
To add J1772 Level 2 capability to my old Citicar, it required three
items - a 240v charger, a J1772 inlet, and a vehicle-side control board.
Since I also wanted to use 120v at times, the charger needed to be
multi-volt capable. I used an ElCon 2500 charger (2.5 kW, 90 to 250v
input). This charger was about $700.
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
Wiring the charger to the inlet is straightforward. Wiring the control
board to the vehicle / J1772 inlet is easy as well. Hardest part is
deciding where to mount the inlet, and making some sort of door to cover
it when not in use.
The Citicar went from a 120v only, 1.4 kW charger (about 4 miles of
charge per hour of charging) to a 120 - 240v, J1772 capable 2.5 kW
charging system (about 10 miles of charge per hour of charging).
I'll be doing much the same when I upgrade the charger in my present EV.
-
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 06:51 PM, jerry freedomev wrote:
I'm going to need to use the public charge stations soon for fast charging.
They are well spread now in central Fla, at least from St Pete to
Jacksonville on I-4 and I-95 but many don't have 120vac. So I've come
up to the one thing I can't make cheaply, the EV side of a J1772 .
So what do I need and where is a good/best place to get it as low cost as
possible?
I've been happy with 120vac for my very lightweight EV's around town but now
I want to travel long distance and keep charging to 85% flooded lead in
around 30 minutes to an hour. Since the normal 70% charge from 15% is only
3-4kwhr it shouldn't be too hard. I have 1 2kw unit now plus a 1kw
regulated and will add another 2-3kw later.
Trying to do this and keep the weight, cost down, the Streamliner only weighs
700lbs or so, isn't easy so likely do non isolated ones next just using
inductors instead of transformers. Thanks, Jerry Dycus
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Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
Jerry,
I have an already assembled J1772 Adapter Box and also a J1772 Adapter with
remote Pilot Box. Both come with a 3' pigtail so all you have to do is hook
it up to your charger. Or if you want just the J1772 Inlet, I have that
also.
I've been supplying different flavors of J1772 Plugs and Inlets to 'the
world' since Oct of 2010. You can view everything at www.TucsonEV.com.
Shoot me an email if you're interested.
Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com
-Original Message-
From: ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On
Behalf Of jerry freedomev
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:06 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2
charging
ability
Hi Bruce, Tom and All,
Thanks for the help
guys. Just what I was looking
for.
So I assume the
resistor/diode handshake trick is no
longer good enough?
For Tom my new EV is
powered by an old Citi-car
motor , charged with the Citi-car charger that I used in the 3wh Ewoody .
Or
as Bob Rice use to call, the Lumberghini ;^P
I'll probably put the
inlet under the body in front
and an Anderson 50amp DC connector in the rear for 120vac charging and the
range extender if fast charging isn't available.
Thanks,
Jerry Dycus
From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter bruce...@operamail.com
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging
ability
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from
Modular EV Power for about $150.
[ref
http://modularevpower.com/
Modular EV Power
]
This looks like what Tom bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/J1772-UL-75-Amp-Vehicle-Inlet-AND-AVC2-
module-/251244113764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7f50ef64
J1772 UL 75 Amp Vehicle Inlet AND AVC2 module
Jerry mentioned that he wants to keep cost down, so perhaps nice looking
door, a ugly but functional design would be to mount the inlet on a strong
part of the body, and just use a cheap dust cap to protect the protruding
j1772 inlet when not plugged in
http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=559
http://www.amazon.com/QC-101-Fernco-1-1-Flexible-Cap/dp/B002KHZCMC
QC-101 Fernco 1-1/2 Flexible Cap
{brucedp.150m.com}
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 09:48 PM, Tom Keenan wrote:
To add J1772 Level 2 capability to my old Citicar, it required three
items - a 240v charger, a J1772 inlet, and a vehicle-side control board.
Since I also wanted to use 120v at times, the charger needed to be
multi-volt capable. I used an ElCon 2500 charger (2.5 kW, 90 to 250v
input). This charger was about $700.
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from
Modular EV Power for about $150.
Wiring the charger to the inlet is straightforward. Wiring the
control board to the vehicle / J1772 inlet is easy as well. Hardest
part is deciding where to mount the inlet, and making some sort of
door to cover it when not in use.
The Citicar went from a 120v only, 1.4 kW charger (about 4 miles of
charge per hour of charging) to a 120 - 240v, J1772 capable 2.5 kW
charging system (about 10 miles of charge per hour of charging).
I'll be doing much the same when I upgrade the charger in my present EV.
-
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 06:51 PM, jerry freedomev wrote:
I'm going to need to use the public charge stations soon for fast
charging. They are well spread now in central Fla, at least from St Pete
to
Jacksonville on I-4 and I-95 but many don't have 120vac. So I've
come up
to the one thing I can't make cheaply, the EV side of a J1772 .
So what do I need and where is a good/best place to get it as low cost as
possible?
I've been happy with 120vac for my very lightweight EV's around town but
now I want to travel long distance and keep charging to 85% flooded lead
in
around 30 minutes to an hour. Since the normal 70% charge from 15% is
only 3-4kwhr it shouldn't be too hard. I have 1 2kw unit now plus a 1kw
regulated and will add another 2-3kw later.
Trying to do this and keep the weight, cost down, the Streamliner only
weighs 700lbs or so, isn't easy so likely do non isolated ones next
just using inductors instead of transformers. Thanks, Jerry
Dycus
-
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Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
On Mar 23, 2013, at 9:05 AM, jerry freedomev freedo...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Bruce, Tom and All,
Thanks for the help guys.
Just what I was looking for.
So I assume the
resistor/diode handshake trick is no longer good enough?
It is still sufficient, however, if you pull the plug while charging your car
won't sense that and stop drawing power. If you implement the J1772 right, you
should be able to stop the charger from charging as soon as the user goes to
unplug by detecting when the user pushes down on the button to pull out the
plug. IMHO, this is much safer than the designs that require more manual work,
such as stopping your charger (or turning down the power that it is drawing),
flipping a switch to change the resistor/diode combo (turning off the EVSE
contactor), and then unplugging. Why do all that when you can write some
software to do it?
corbin
For Tom my new EV is
powered by an old Citi-car motor , charged with the Citi-car charger that I
used in the 3wh Ewoody . Or as Bob Rice use to call, the Lumberghini ;^P
I'll probably put the
inlet under the body in front and an Anderson 50amp DC connector in the rear
for 120vac charging and the range extender if fast charging isn't available.
Thanks,
Jerry Dycus
From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter bruce...@operamail.com
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
[ref
http://modularevpower.com/
Modular EV Power
]
This looks like what Tom bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/J1772-UL-75-Amp-Vehicle-Inlet-AND-AVC2-module-/251244113764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7f50ef64
J1772 UL 75 Amp Vehicle Inlet AND AVC2 module
Jerry mentioned that he wants to keep cost down, so perhaps nice looking
door, a ugly but functional design would be to mount the inlet on a
strong part of the body, and just use a cheap dust cap to protect the
protruding j1772 inlet when not plugged in
http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=559
http://www.amazon.com/QC-101-Fernco-1-1-Flexible-Cap/dp/B002KHZCMC
QC-101 Fernco 1-1/2 Flexible Cap
{brucedp.150m.com}
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 09:48 PM, Tom Keenan wrote:
To add J1772 Level 2 capability to my old Citicar, it required three
items - a 240v charger, a J1772 inlet, and a vehicle-side control board.
Since I also wanted to use 120v at times, the charger needed to be
multi-volt capable. I used an ElCon 2500 charger (2.5 kW, 90 to 250v
input). This charger was about $700.
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
Wiring the charger to the inlet is straightforward. Wiring the control
board to the vehicle / J1772 inlet is easy as well. Hardest part is
deciding where to mount the inlet, and making some sort of door to cover
it when not in use.
The Citicar went from a 120v only, 1.4 kW charger (about 4 miles of
charge per hour of charging) to a 120 - 240v, J1772 capable 2.5 kW
charging system (about 10 miles of charge per hour of charging).
I'll be doing much the same when I upgrade the charger in my present EV.
-
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 06:51 PM, jerry freedomev wrote:
I'm going to need to use the public charge stations soon for fast charging.
They are well spread now in central Fla, at least from St Pete to
Jacksonville on I-4 and I-95 but many don't have 120vac. So I've come
up to the one thing I can't make cheaply, the EV side of a J1772 .
So what do I need and where is a good/best place to get it as low cost as
possible?
I've been happy with 120vac for my very lightweight EV's around town but now
I want to travel long distance and keep charging to 85% flooded lead in
around 30 minutes to an hour. Since the normal 70% charge from 15% is only
3-4kwhr it shouldn't be too hard. I have 1 2kw unit now plus a 1kw
regulated and will add another 2-3kw later.
Trying to do this and keep the weight, cost down, the Streamliner only
weighs 700lbs or so, isn't easy so likely do non isolated ones next just
using inductors instead of transformers. Thanks,Jerry Dycus
-
--
http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and
love email again
Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
Hi Corbin and All,
I rather like flipping switches so
the problems mentioned are not much for me to handle. Does anyone know where a
diagram of hooking up and what size resistor, diode to use?
Those who know me know I always like
the most simple, least likely to fail, fast to repair, lowest cost. I'll
incorporate a timer in it and maybe a latching relay to cut off at 85% full
charge voltage.
Thanks,
Jerry
Dycus
From: corbin dunn cor...@corbinstreehouse.com
To: jerry freedomev freedo...@yahoo.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Save, Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging
ability
On Mar 23, 2013, at 9:05 AM, jerry freedomev freedo...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Bruce, Tom and All,
Thanks for the help guys.
Just what I was looking for.
So I assume the
resistor/diode handshake trick is no longer good enough?
It is still sufficient, however, if you pull the plug while charging your car
won't sense that and stop drawing power. If you implement the J1772 right, you
should be able to stop the charger from charging as soon as the user goes to
unplug by detecting when the user pushes down on the button to pull out the
plug. IMHO, this is much safer than the designs that require more manual work,
such as stopping your charger (or turning down the power that it is drawing),
flipping a switch to change the resistor/diode combo (turning off the EVSE
contactor), and then unplugging. Why do all that when you can write some
software to do it?
corbin
For Tom my new EV is
powered by an old Citi-car motor , charged with the Citi-car charger that I
used in the 3wh Ewoody . Or as Bob Rice use to call, the Lumberghini ;^P
I'll probably put the
inlet under the body in front and an Anderson 50amp DC connector in the rear
for 120vac charging and the range extender if fast charging isn't available.
Thanks,
Jerry Dycus
From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter bruce...@operamail.com
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, adding a public level-2 charging ability
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
[ref
http://modularevpower.com/
Modular EV Power
]
This looks like what Tom bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/J1772-UL-75-Amp-Vehicle-Inlet-AND-AVC2-module-/251244113764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7f50ef64
J1772 UL 75 Amp Vehicle Inlet AND AVC2 module
Jerry mentioned that he wants to keep cost down, so perhaps nice looking
door, a ugly but functional design would be to mount the inlet on a
strong part of the body, and just use a cheap dust cap to protect the
protruding j1772 inlet when not plugged in
http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=559
http://www.amazon.com/QC-101-Fernco-1-1-Flexible-Cap/dp/B002KHZCMC
QC-101 Fernco 1-1/2 Flexible Cap
{brucedp.150m.com}
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 09:48 PM, Tom Keenan wrote:
To add J1772 Level 2 capability to my old Citicar, it required three
items - a 240v charger, a J1772 inlet, and a vehicle-side control board.
Since I also wanted to use 120v at times, the charger needed to be
multi-volt capable. I used an ElCon 2500 charger (2.5 kW, 90 to 250v
input). This charger was about $700.
I purchased the J1772 inlet and vehicle-side control board from Modular
EV Power for about $150.
Wiring the charger to the inlet is straightforward. Wiring the control
board to the vehicle / J1772 inlet is easy as well. Hardest part is
deciding where to mount the inlet, and making some sort of door to cover
it when not in use.
The Citicar went from a 120v only, 1.4 kW charger (about 4 miles of
charge per hour of charging) to a 120 - 240v, J1772 capable 2.5 kW
charging system (about 10 miles of charge per hour of charging).
I'll be doing much the same when I upgrade the charger in my present EV.
-
-
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 06:51 PM, jerry freedomev wrote:
I'm going to need to use the public charge stations soon for fast charging.
They are well spread now in central Fla, at least from
