[Evangelism] Re: Top 15 Questions... Final Draft
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:23:14 +0200, Chris Barnes ch...@txbarnes.com wrote: In fact, this is my main complaint with Plone in general. It might very well be easy to use for the end users - but to run the entire system requires a person who is well versed in Zope/python. To run it — I'd say no. To customize it, absolutely. There's use as in end user, and use as in develop for / customize. We are very much aware that the current approach where Plone straddles multiple large pieces of infrastructure (Zope 2, Zope 3 and the CMF), is not ideal. The other option would be to dump our current user base and restart development in pure Zope 3 (or something else), which was an option that was deemed too risky. I'm a computer administrator by profession - and *I* haven't been able to get a Plone site up and running yet. What does that say for the average user? Iow, the kb needed to run maintain a Plone system is WAY under stated. With the latest advancements in configuration and setup tools (buildout being among the major changes here), the core part of this problem will be in much better shape than it was a year ago. The main problem as I see it at the moment is that not all documentation is current, but the team is working on updating the documentation to the current state of the art. I have to be honest - I am close to giving up on Plone. That's sad to hear. Let us know if there are specific things we can help with. There are lots of things we want to make better about Plone — the good news is that the team is acutely aware of these issues, and everyone is pulling in the same direction to get them fixed. It just takes a bit of time, as everything does in a project with a large installed user base, where you need to care about upgrades and compatibility. -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: Re: Top 15 Questions... Final Draft
On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:32 AM, Alexander Limi wrote: No one expects SAP to be easy to install do they? The thing is, Plone *is* easy to install, and you get a very sophisticated setup even when using the base installers. It's just a bit challenging to develop for at the moment, something that we're working hard on fixing. I agree, Plone is very easy to install. For those that doubt it I put together a posting tonight that outlines an advanced install (and is cross platform friendly): http://immersive-training.net/event-updates/blog/2009/4/13/when-the-plone-installer-isn-t-enough I hope this can help people realize that even if they need more power than what the OOTB installer gives them, it doesn't have to complicate things. Tools like ZopeSkel make sure that you are always using best practices and keeps the experience the same no matter what platform you are working with. I even tested this on windows to be sure it really worked like it does on my Mac OS X box. Cheers, Calvin -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x602 cal...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://sixfeetup.com/immerse ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] WPD Logo
Hi, where can I download the WPD-Logo? juh ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day Press Release Languages
Hello, we made the Italian version, here's a link: http://reflab.com/world-plone-day-it/wpd-2009/world-plone-day-2009-comunicato-stampa/ Please notice that this is customized for our local event, but we can add also a generic Italian pr template Cheers, Eleonora (Lili) M. Harito Reisman ha scritto: Hi, did anyone already translate the WPD Press Release into german, french, italian or other languages? Harito *Haritomedia GmbH* http://www.haritomedia.com/ *Skype:* haritomedia *Switzerland:* Phone: +41-(0)22 548 3366 *USA:* Phone: +1-310-929-7477 Cell: +1-909-534 7122 __ ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Eleonora Borelli Email: eleon...@reflab.com Reflab S.r.l. - Plone Design, Development and Consulting Phone: +39 3471841847 http://www.reflab.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] 2nd sprint on Top 15 Questions About Plone
Hi All: Mark and I will be revising the current draft of the Top 15 Questions About Plone tonight, Tuesday, April 14th at 9pm EDT. We will be integrating some of the feedback received recently. Please feel free to join us on irc at #plone-evangelism. The document we'll be working on is at: http://etherpad.com/uWl09ArMXm Thank you, Gabrielle -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: Re: Top 15 Questions... Final Draft
On Apr 11, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Alexander Limi wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:20:40 +0200, Jan Ulrich Hasecke juhase...@googlemail.com wrote: Then in this text and on the website you write that the Plone Foundation is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. 501 in my memory is a Levis jeans, ;-) I mean outside the USA nobody knows what 501 means. I would skip it from the text and make perhaps a footnote. Yeah, the most relevant bit about 501(c)(3) is non-profit foundation where donations are tax-deductible (at least in the US). GHP: I have updated the Top 15 Questions accordingly. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference kit for hosting a Plone booth
What kind of posters did you want to print? You mean, instead of a banner? g -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Nate Aune wrote: I just heard about this service which seems pretty reasonably priced for printing full-size posters. http://www.fullsizeposters.com/ You simply upload an image file and they print and ship the poster to you. Nate On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker gabrie...@sixfeetup.com wrote: Hi Nate, Here's the quote I gave you back in March: FIle Prep Charge $15 13 oz Vinyl Banner 3' x 6' with 6 grommets $88 Digital Printing (no color match charges and may be as many colors as we want) Package to ship UPS ground $17 (their time and materials to prepare for shipping) Shipping $20(estimated) Tax $10 Total $150 Additional Charges if not camera ready: Workstation time 1/2 hour - place logo, set text, add color as needed $70. Production time is 3-5 working days We have actually done a banner with them for Six Feet Up and were really pleased with the result. People who came to the DC party may remember it ;-) Thank you, g -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Nate Aune wrote: Does someone who's printed banners before know what the expected costs are to print a banner with the Plone logo suitable for hanging up at a conference booth? I agree that if it's less expensive to print several at the same time, we should print several so we have them on hand and can easily ship them (more lightweight than vinyl or canvas) in a tube if for example there are two conferences happening at the same time. thanks, Nate On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker gabrie...@sixfeetup.com wrote: On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: If you can store things I won't print on demand put print a reasonable amount of copies to have them at hand if required. The price for a copy shrinks heavily if you print more copies in one process. Our experience in Germany is that people order marketing material very shortly before the event so that printing on demand might be no option at all. juh DZUG e.V: GHP: I totally agree with you, Jan. I think we need to have 3-4 inventory places all over the world to reap the benefits of efficiency, fast turnaround and economies of scale. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] RC version for Top 15 Questions About Plone
Hi All: After integrating most comments received via email, we now have a much more solid version of the Top 15 Questions About Plone document at http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/top-ten-questions-about-plone . Please ONLY edit the version on openplans moving forward so we can better track the changes and operate on the assumption this is the authoritative source. Thank you, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker CEO -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] RC version for Top 15 Questions About Plone
Looking good, have you guys thought about attaching a Creative Commons license to this so we have a say in how it is used? Cheers, Cal On Apr 14, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker wrote: Hi All: After integrating most comments received via email, we now have a much more solid version of the Top 15 Questions About Plone document at http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/top-ten-questions-about-plone . Please ONLY edit the version on openplans moving forward so we can better track the changes and operate on the assumption this is the authoritative source. Thank you, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker CEO -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x602 cal...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://sixfeetup.com/immerse ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference kit for hosting a Plone booth
it was just an idea that instead of getting a banner, we could make a poster. i think you can request printing on a variety of dimensions of paper. so maybe they would print it in a banner orientation as well. nate On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker gabrie...@sixfeetup.com wrote: What kind of posters did you want to print? You mean, instead of a banner? g -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Nate Aune wrote: I just heard about this service which seems pretty reasonably priced for printing full-size posters. http://www.fullsizeposters.com/ You simply upload an image file and they print and ship the poster to you. Nate On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker gabrie...@sixfeetup.com wrote: Hi Nate, Here's the quote I gave you back in March: FIle Prep Charge $15 13 oz Vinyl Banner 3' x 6' with 6 grommets $88 Digital Printing (no color match charges and may be as many colors as we want) Package to ship UPS ground $17 (their time and materials to prepare for shipping) Shipping $20(estimated) Tax $10 Total$150 Additional Charges if not camera ready: Workstation time 1/2 hour - place logo, set text, add color as needed $70. Production time is 3-5 working days We have actually done a banner with them for Six Feet Up and were really pleased with the result. People who came to the DC party may remember it ;-) Thank you, g -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrie...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Nate Aune wrote: Does someone who's printed banners before know what the expected costs are to print a banner with the Plone logo suitable for hanging up at a conference booth? I agree that if it's less expensive to print several at the same time, we should print several so we have them on hand and can easily ship them (more lightweight than vinyl or canvas) in a tube if for example there are two conferences happening at the same time. thanks, Nate On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker gabrie...@sixfeetup.com wrote: On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: If you can store things I won't print on demand put print a reasonable amount of copies to have them at hand if required. The price for a copy shrinks heavily if you print more copies in one process. Our experience in Germany is that people order marketing material very shortly before the event so that printing on demand might be no option at all. juh DZUG e.V: GHP: I totally agree with you, Jan. I think we need to have 3-4 inventory places all over the world to reap the benefits of efficiency, fast turnaround and economies of scale. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
