RE: Exchange 2003 backups
PST = Bad. themolk. -Original Message- From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 2003 backups Hi, I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003. It is a single server setup. I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT. The stores and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and every week I would stop the services and do a full backup. Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I thought I would revue the situation. Some background info... The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace. There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue to rise to 250 over the next few years. Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been increased to 100mb. Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they use pst files on the server. At the moment I do not have a well defined backup policy for this setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly. Any advice ? thanks Matthew Joyce Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: Exchange 2003 backups
PST's can have passwords put on them by users, and users forget them (rendering them useless). PST's do not synchronise (using WinXP's offline files feature), and so can be forgotten or left behind, or worse, corrupted. I think that we almost have an FAQ for why PST=bad from this list, don't we? Certainly GuruEd (the MVP Slut) has raved against them previously. ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups If my users needed to access mail that was older than 2 years I'd design an Exchange setup that gave them the space they needed to store this stuff. PSTs are unreliable PSTs are expensive (e.g. cost of supporting them, disk and backup tape space as they break SIS) I think this is all covered in the FAQs, if not, certainly the archives. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matthew Joyce Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 23:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups This seems to be a popular axiom, buy why are they considered bad ? How else can I give users access to email from 2 years ago ? yes, they do need to access these. What do other organisations do ? Matt -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups PST = Bad. themolk. -Original Message- From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 2003 backups Hi, I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003. It is a single server setup. I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT. The stores and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and every week I would stop the services and do a full backup. Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I thought I would revue the situation. Some background info... The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace. There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue to rise to 250 over the next few years. Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been increased to 100mb. Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they use pst files on the server. At the moment I do not have a well defined backup policy for this setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly. Any advice ? thanks Matthew Joyce Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange; text_mode==english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us
RE: Exchange 2003 backups
Chris, Granted... They aren't the most secure solution in that regard... I guess it is more that they are prone or corruption, and have a finite limit which users then don't find out about until they go OVER that limit (they they are stuffed!). ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 12:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups Takes about 6 seconds to strip a password from a PST file which renders them laughably insecure rather than useless. ;) -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:56 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Exchange 2003 backups Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups PST's can have passwords put on them by users, and users forget them (rendering them useless). PST's do not synchronise (using WinXP's offline files feature), and so can be forgotten or left behind, or worse, corrupted. I think that we almost have an FAQ for why PST=bad from this list, don't we? Certainly GuruEd (the MVP Slut) has raved against them previously. ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups If my users needed to access mail that was older than 2 years I'd design an Exchange setup that gave them the space they needed to store this stuff. PSTs are unreliable PSTs are expensive (e.g. cost of supporting them, disk and backup tape space as they break SIS) I think this is all covered in the FAQs, if not, certainly the archives. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matthew Joyce Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 23:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups This seems to be a popular axiom, buy why are they considered bad ? How else can I give users access to email from 2 years ago ? yes, they do need to access these. What do other organisations do ? Matt -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups PST = Bad. themolk. -Original Message- From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 2003 backups Hi, I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003. It is a single server setup. I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT. The stores and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and every week I would stop the services and do a full backup. Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I thought I would revue the situation. Some background info... The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace. There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue to rise to 250 over the next few years. Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been increased to 100mb. Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they use pst files on the server. At the moment I do not have a well defined backup policy for this setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly. Any advice ? thanks Matthew Joyce Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ
RE: Exchange 2003 backups
I agree ( I was in the middle of drafting a response to this one when Chris' advice arrived). I think that the easiest solution is good deleted retention limits, and lots of disk space. The only downside is the cost, and whatever proposal you then have to write for your new backup system to cover your new big disks on your exchange box!! themolk. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups My retention policies and mailbox size limits are based on what I feel are best for my organization (based on a lot of discussions and my mail nazi instincts). Ask around, get input and feedback from users and management and then make a proposal on storage and retention along with projected growth and cost. If management thinks it is too expensive, get their feedback and submit again. -Original Message- From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:21 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Exchange 2003 backups Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups yes, this is my concern. The main part of my question was what to backup and how often. ...and retention setting for mailboxes and deleted items. I need to figure out a robust policy which won't need tobe changed 6 months because of store bloating. Import all those PSTs is just not something I'm prepared to do. I can see, that had I not used PSTs and used bigger mailboxes (not something I could have done, predecessor, etc) then staff would be forced to managed their mail better. Matt -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups Really big hard drives is how we do it. Our users keep the mail they need and are encouraged to dispose of the mail they don't need. Occasionally they do. Of course, we have the luxury of having an abundance of storage space on our Exchange servers the bigger challenge is the effect those large information stores can have on backups and restores. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erick Thompson Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups I'd recommend a public folder. That way, not only do you have access to email from years ago, but all users (with correct permissions) have access, instead of only the user who has it in a PST. Erick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Joyce Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups This seems to be a popular axiom, buy why are they considered bad ? How else can I give users access to email from 2 years ago ? yes, they do need to access these. What do other organisations do ? Matt -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups PST = Bad. themolk. -Original Message- From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 2003 backups Hi, I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003. It is a single server setup. I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT. The stores and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and every week I would stop the services and do a full backup. Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I thought I would revue the situation. Some background info... The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace. There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue to rise to 250 over the next few years. Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been increased to 100mb. Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they use pst files on the server. At the moment I do not have a well defined backup policy for this setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly. Any advice ? thanks Matthew Joyce Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au
RE: Exchange 2003 backups
Ed, Thanks - I had forgotten the correct term, and in its absence decided to coin one of my own... And yes, the content filters kicked in on me. ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups The correct term is vendor whore. I am not a slut. Ed Waiting for the Content Filters to Kick In Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups PST's can have passwords put on them by users, and users forget them (rendering them useless). PST's do not synchronise (using WinXP's offline files feature), and so can be forgotten or left behind, or worse, corrupted. I think that we almost have an FAQ for why PST=bad from this list, don't we? Certainly GuruEd (the MVP Slut) has raved against them previously. ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups If my users needed to access mail that was older than 2 years I'd design an Exchange setup that gave them the space they needed to store this stuff. PSTs are unreliable PSTs are expensive (e.g. cost of supporting them, disk and backup tape space as they break SIS) I think this is all covered in the FAQs, if not, certainly the archives. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matthew Joyce Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 23:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups This seems to be a popular axiom, buy why are they considered bad ? How else can I give users access to email from 2 years ago ? yes, they do need to access these. What do other organisations do ? Matt -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups PST = Bad. themolk. -Original Message- From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 2003 backups Hi, I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003. It is a single server setup. I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT. The stores and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and every week I would stop the services and do a full backup. Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I thought I would revue the situation. Some background info... The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace. There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue to rise to 250 over the next few years. Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been increased to 100mb. Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they use pst files on the server. At the moment I do not have a well defined backup policy for this setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly. Any advice ? thanks Matthew Joyce Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Exchange Limits
One approach you might want to consider is educating your users about the use of Personal Folders. Then, educate yourself about all the problems you will have with PST's... Remember, PST = bad. themolk. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 2K Outlook 2K3 - increase in size of *.stm
Neil Andy (and anyone else interested!), Firstly thanks for your replies - every bit helps when you have a conundrum. I managed to increase the size of the exchange drive, and then last night dismounted the store and ran eseutil /d. *.stm file went from approx 9GB to 1.5 GB (what I was expecting!). To that end - not sure WHY it did it, but that solved the problem. And Andy, yes - we need bigger drives (however politics dictate that what the servers have is what they will keep until we upgrade them in 12 months or so). Damn proprietary hard drives! ;) Thanks for your help - this list is a goldmine. themolk. -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2003 10:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Outlook 2K3 - increase in size of *.stm Sounds like you need bigger drives! Not sure why you want to run eseutil. How much space are you going to reclaim if you do? -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 2K Outlook 2K3 - increase in size of *.stm All advice appreciated... We have recently introduced Outlook 2K3 into our Exchange 2000 environment. Our laptop users we have configured to run Outlook in cached exchange mode. In the same time frame, our *.stm has exploded from about 1.5 GB to approx 9GB. The *.edb file has not grown (apart from normal mail services). Why would this have happened? Is it not related to the introduction of Outlook 2K3? Is it related? I have not yet run esutil, as there are other space issues this has now highlighted (and means until I free up some space elsewhere I can't run it, knowing I need approx 110% free space, and we now only have 1.79GB free on the drive the db's live on). I have searched the MS-KB and come up with nada. Ideas, suggestions all welcome... Thanks, themolk. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange 2K Outlook 2K3 - increase in size of *.stm
All advice appreciated... We have recently introduced Outlook 2K3 into our Exchange 2000 environment. Our laptop users we have configured to run Outlook in cached exchange mode. In the same time frame, our *.stm has exploded from about 1.5 GB to approx 9GB. The *.edb file has not grown (apart from normal mail services). Why would this have happened? Is it not related to the introduction of Outlook 2K3? Is it related? I have not yet run esutil, as there are other space issues this has now highlighted (and means until I free up some space elsewhere I can't run it, knowing I need approx 110% free space, and we now only have 1.79GB free on the drive the db's live on). I have searched the MS-KB and come up with nada. Ideas, suggestions all welcome... Thanks, themolk. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: Just Released - Digital Cable Descrambler 3899
Larry = pst = bad. themolk. P.S. I wish he was the M:\ drive... -Original Message- From: Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 7:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: FW: RE: Just Released - Digital Cable Descrambler 3899 UNLOCK Digital Cable - FREE! ***NEWEST VERSION - Released September 4, 2003*** * Sporting PPVs like Wrestling Boxing * Adult Channels * Special Musical Concerts * Blockbuster New Release PPV Movies Cheapest Price on the NET !! Only $39 ! http://www.noveltynet2003.biz/promo.php?id=93758 Take off list: http://www.noveltynet2003.biz/1/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: forward for a transaction
I'm a big fan of the fact that it is an EXTREMELY BUSINESS TRANSACTION. ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: jerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 10:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: forward for a transaction FROM DESK OF:MR.JERRY JOSEPH. NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION(NNPC) FALOMO OFFICE COMPLEX IKOYI, LAGOS NIGERIA. DEAR SIR, EXTREMELY BUSINESS TRANSACTION RE: REMITTANCE OF US28,500,000.00 MILLION DOLLARS INTO PRIVATE/COMPANY ACCOUNT BASED ON A RECENT RECOMMENDATION OF YOUR COMPANY FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE.WE ARE COMPELLED TO CONTACT YOU ON THIS BUSINESS PROPOSAL,WHICH WILL CERTAINLY BOOST OUR FINANCIAL STAND WHEN CONCLUDED. WE ARE TOP FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONARIES WITH THE NIGERIAN NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC) HEADQUARTERS, LAGOS AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TENDER BOARD RESPONSIBLE FOR AWARD OF ALL NNPC FOREIGN CONTRACTS. IN COLLABORATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES, WE PROPOSE TO REMIT THE SUM OF US$28,500,000.00 (TWENTY EIGTH MILLION,FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED TATES DOLLARS ONLY)INTO AN HONEST NOMINATED FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNT AND LATER INVEST PART OF THIS FUND IN A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS IN YOUR COUNTRY. THIS AMOUNT WAS DERIVED FROM OVER ANVOICED CONTRACT VALUE ON VARIOUS NNPC CONTRACT, AT PORT HARCOURT AND WARRI RE FINERIES WHICH HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED AND COMMISSIONED AND ACCORDINGLY THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTORS DULY PAID. THIS OVER INFLATED AMOUNT IS NOW IN A SUSPENSE ACCOUNT AWAITING PROPER DOCUMENTATION FOR REMITTANCE INTO A RELIABLE FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNT, WE HAVE UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO ALLOCATE YOU 25% OF THIS FUND FORPROVIDING THE FOREIGN BANK WHERE THIS FUND WILL BE REMITTED AND DEQUATE ASSISTANCE EQUALLY, WE HAVE SET ASIDE 5% FOR LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES,WHILE 70% IS FOR US THE OFFICIALS CONCERNED. YOU SHOULD INDICATE YOUR INTEREST AND ABILITY IN ACCEPTING AND ASSISTING US ADEQUATELY TO ACHIEVE THIS GREAT OBJECTIVE TO ENABLE US PUT UP PAYMENT CLAIMS AND TO EFFECT REMITTANCE OF THE FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU SHOULD SEND URGENTLY THE FOLLOWING TO THE ABOVE NUMBER: A.ACCOUNT NAME/ADDRESS, TELEX/FAX NUMBER OF YOUR BANK B.YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER, YOUR PRIVATE FAX/TELEPHONE NUMBERS RESPECTIVELY. AT THE RECEIPT OF THESE VITAL REQUIREMENTS FROM YOU, WE SHALL QUICKLY CONTACT THE CONCERNED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES FOR SPEEDY APPROVALS OF THE PAYMENT. THIS TRANSACTION IS VERY URGENT AND SENSITIVE IN VIEW OF THIS FACT, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT IT WILL LAST FOR (14) WORKING DAYS FROM THE RECEIPT OF THE ABOVE NAMED REQUIRE MENTS TO THE DATE OF REMITTANCE OF FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT WE SHALL USE A GREATER PART OF OUR SHARE FOR INVESTMENT IN YOUR COUNTRY AS TO BE DIRECTED BY YOU.AS WE SOLICIT FOR ADEQUATE ASSISTANCE. HONESTY AND MAXIMUM COOPERATION FROM YOU. YOU SHOULD MAINTAIN STRICTLY CONFIDENTIALITY OF THIS BUSINESS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING YOUR POSITIVE RESPONSE. BEST REGARDS, MR.JERRY JOSEPH. FROM DESK OF:MR.JERRY JOSEPH. NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION(NNPC) FALOMO OFFICE COMPLEX IKOYI, LAGOS NIGERIA. DEAR SIR, EXTREMELY BUSINESS TRANSACTION RE: REMITTANCE OF US28,500,000.00 MILLION DOLLARS INTO PRIVATE/COMPANY ACCOUNT BASED ON A RECENT RECOMMENDATION OF YOUR COMPANY FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE.WE ARE COMPELLED TO CONTACT YOU ON THIS BUSINESS PROPOSAL,WHICH WILL CERTAINLY BOOST OUR FINANCIAL STAND WHEN CONCLUDED. WE ARE TOP FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONARIES WITH THE NIGERIAN NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC) HEADQUARTERS, LAGOS AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TENDER BOARD RESPONSIBLE FOR AWARD OF ALL NNPC FOREIGN CONTRACTS. IN COLLABORATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES, WE PROPOSE TO REMIT THE SUM OF US$28,500,000.00 (TWENTY EIGTH MILLION,FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED TATES DOLLARS ONLY)INTO AN HONEST NOMINATED FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNT AND LATER INVEST PART OF THIS FUND IN A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS IN YOUR COUNTRY. THIS AMOUNT WAS DERIVED FROM OVER ANVOICED CONTRACT VALUE ON VARIOUS NNPC CONTRACT, AT PORT HARCOURT AND WARRI RE FINERIES WHICH HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED AND COMMISSIONED AND ACCORDINGLY THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTORS DULY PAID. THIS OVER INFLATED AMOUNT IS NOW IN A SUSPENSE ACCOUNT AWAITING PROPER DOCUMENTATION FOR REMITTANCE INTO A RELIABLE FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNT, WE HAVE UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO ALLOCATE YOU 25% OF THIS FUND FORPROVIDING THE FOREIGN BANK WHERE THIS FUND WILL BE REMITTED AND DEQUATE ASSISTANCE EQUALLY, WE HAVE SET ASIDE 5% FOR LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES,WHILE 70% IS FOR US THE OFFICIALS CONCERNED. YOU SHOULD INDICATE YOUR INTEREST AND ABILITY IN ACCEPTING AND ASSISTING US ADEQUATELY TO ACHIEVE THIS GREAT OBJECTIVE TO ENABLE US PUT UP PAYMENT CLAIMS AND TO EFFECT REMITTANCE OF THE FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU SHOULD SEND URGENTLY THE FOLLOWING TO THE ABOVE NUMBER:
RE: Exchange 2003 RBL
Matt, What does this have to do with the thread in place? Perhaps if you want help you need to send a new e-mail so that a new thread starts (or continue the thread this started on)?? I know those that will want to help will find it easier if this is the case. My $0.02 (inc GST). themolk. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2003 7:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 RBL OK, Migration to Exchange 2000 from 5.5 was a nightmare, but I managed to get MOST of my users to transfer over. Unfortunately, 15 of the 160 did not transfer inexplicably. They now have no mailboxes. Also, even more unfortunately, a couple of them are people who had huge mailboxes and lost a whole lot of data here. I still have my backups from 5.5, but the question is, how the hell do I get any of it back now? The tape drive that was used for those backups was on the same server that is now 2000, and is now in AD where it was in an NT 4 domain before. I tried installing 5.5 on another server and the 5.5 management tools on the upgraded box. Normally that means one can see the existing 5.5 servers and restore or backup data to them remotely. However, the 5.5 management tools cannot see the other server that 5.5 is now installed to. It's in the old domain, whereas the new box is in the new AD domain. Is this the problem? Should I install 5.5 somewhere in my AD domain and try restoring there? Is this a common problem with the 5.5 management tools that they can't go cross-domain to see 5.5 server? I guess any kind of help here would be great since my 15 lost users are having major panic attacks. Thanks, Matt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A CHALLENGE to the List
Ditto from an Aussie... themolk. -Original Message- From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 September 2003 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: A CHALLENGE to the List I see the 10 to 12 looks like its gone, but I would be happy to accept your challenge should you want a non-USA review of your book. regards Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/09/2003 8:23:27 a.m. Well, it appears that a number of individuals from this list have chosen to engage in childish and cowardly ad hominem attacks on myself and Achieving Process Profitability: Building the IT Profit Center without ever even reading a single page of it. I have been in contact with Amazon.com so these reviews will be removed in the near future. I could take this opportunity to opine about how unprofessional, unfair, childish and cowardly this is, but instead I offer this challenge: I will send you a copy of my Achieving Process Profitability at my own expense for you to review. All that I ask in return is that you actually read Achieving Process Profitability and post an honest, impartial review of it's contents, not your personal prejudices, to Amazon.com and this list. I will only respond to indivuals that publicly accept my challenge on this list, just respond to this message and then privately email me your name and address. I have a limited supply of books so I will accept the first 10-12 responses to this challenge. All fair-minded individuals will accept this challenge and the rest of the pompous bags of gas will be exposed for what they are. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Northland State of the Environment Report 2002 now online at www.nrc.govt.nz ** NORTHLAND REGIONAL COUNCIL This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Tony, If you agree with Andy, then why not do something about it and CHANGE THE SUBJECT?! themolk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? I completely agree with you. I have progressed on the issue. I deleted the administrator local profile, now the tools work. However, I am getting a nasty message in the event log that suggests there is a schema problem... Maybe Ed can look at it ? Source EXOLEDB Event Id 111 Microsoft Exchange OLEDB was unable to do Schema propagation on MDB startup HRESULT = 0x80040e19 Is a Windows 2003 Server with Exchange 2003, recently upgraded from Windows 2000 Exchange 2000... Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy Sent: 16 September 2003 00:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? The question is, do you have anything to contribute to the ethics/book discussion or are you just hijacking this topic? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? Hear hear. It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money. Doctors need a code of ethics because of the nature of their career-path; it's so amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of course). You tell me where we have such power. Matt -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet then you are automatically unethical. Equally absurd is his assertion that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder, ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some pharmaceutical on it. I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas. Are we to believe that a tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their investment accounts at BankOH? Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and thus unable to properly represent any other product. A ludicrous assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products. Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces. The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect shop. I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed. I have Symantec hats, pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed. Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a new projector in about 3 years. If I do, I'll consider Epson along with several other brands. I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed. Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I don't believe is the best solution. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and it looks like this to me if you ask 100
RE: Mdeamon on my Network!
That's absolutely right - to quote the Great Ed...
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioural problems
A length of 2x4 is hardly technological, and supremely satisfying
wielded in the hands of a frustrated IT admin. Win - Win!
themolk.
-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mdeamon on my Network!
In all seriousness, this is a policy issue. If you don't
have an acceptable use policy for your internal network and
applications, then get one, get sign off by management,
publish it and enforce it. If you have one and it doesn't
cover this, amend it so that it will.
As someone wise on this list has mentioned, technology is not
a cure for bad behavior. A 2x4, however, is.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Moir
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mdeamon on my Network!
I can see a recurring theme in all our replies...
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 01/09/2003 19:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc:
Subject: RE: Mdeamon on my Network!
Grab a baseball bat and pay the user a visit.
-Original Message-
From: Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, September 01, 2003 5:27 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Mdeamon on my Network!
Subject: Mdeamon on my Network!
Hello there, I have E2k and W2k environment, what I
have seen today is
that one of our user installed Mdeamon mail server
used my E2k as a
gateway to send mails to internals users with a
different domain name.
How can I restrict this kind of activity?
Hope you gurus out there can have some idea on this.
Regards,
Irf.
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RE: Exchange 2000 ForestPrep Fails
Jamie, As I understand it, Forestprep is only meant to be run on a Windows 2000 domain... I am happy to be wrong, however. themolk. -Original Message- From: Jamie Domingue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 2:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Greetings, I am encountering into a problem when I try to run ForestPrep to add the first Exchange 2000 server to an existing Exchange 5.5 site. At the time setup runs its checks I am getting an Invalid Character error. I have checked the display names of both the Organization and Sites and there is no problem there. I have also looked at the XADM: Invalid Character Error Occurs When You Upgrade or Join an Exchange Server 5.5 Site KB article 289671. I am in the process of checking for schema attributes that may have multiple descriptions though I have not found any yet. Have any of you encountered this problem before? Are there any recommendations on how to resolve this? Exchange 5.5 SP4 Windows NT SP6 CA Backup software Mcafee Virus Scanning Thanks in advance, Jamie Domingue _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Beta EntourageX v10.1.4
Ditto... Particularly if this is the integration of Entourage to use an Exchange server properly! themolk. -Original Message- From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 1:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions I'd be interested in hearing about it as well... -Original Message- From: Stephens, Tara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT - Beta EntourageX v10.1.4 Anybody trying to work with this yet? Please email offlist. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: EMail Stamp Request for {RE: Help -- Login Scripts !!!}
I know we discussed this at length before - I posted to the NT/2000
list, and got this back (first time). To say that I am not happy that
someone on the list is sending these to people on the lists is an
understatement.
Can we not bump this user? Where do they get off sending something like
this??
I am just angry...
themolk.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 8:14 AM
To: Steve Molkentin
Subject: Re: EMail Stamp Request for {RE: Help -- Login Scripts !!!}
I use EMail Stamps to curb the flow of unwanted junk e-mail. Your
message has been queued for delivery. If you would like your message
delivered to my InBox, it will cost you $300.00.
This modest sum is enough to keep unwanted junk e-mail from flooding my
account. This e-mail was sent to you only because you contacted me by
e-mail. Thank you for your understanding.
If you choose not to pay, I completely understand, and I respect your
decision.
If your message is important, and you choose to pay $300.00 to allow
your e-mail through, the message will be automatically sent once PayPal
informs me that the payment has been made. There is no need to send the
message again.
You can pay me securely by PayPal with Visa, Mastercard, Discover or
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RE: EMail Stamp Request for {RE: Help -- Login Scripts !!!}
Missy,
In retrospect, I agree with you. Who thinks they can charge $300 to get
you to read an e-mail!! ;)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] the size of boulders...
themolk.
-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
LOL. I think it's hysterical.
- Original Message -
From: Steve Molkentin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: FW: EMail Stamp Request for {RE: Help -- Login Scripts !!!}
I know we discussed this at length before - I posted to the
NT/2000 list, and got this back (first time). To say that I
am not happy that someone on the list is sending these to
people on the lists is an understatement.
Can we not bump this user? Where do they get off sending
something like this??
I am just angry...
themolk.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 8:14 AM
To: Steve Molkentin
Subject: Re: EMail Stamp Request for {RE: Help -- Login Scripts !!!}
I use EMail Stamps to curb the flow of unwanted junk e-mail.
Your message has been queued for delivery. If you would like
your message delivered to my InBox, it will cost you $300.00.
This modest sum is enough to keep unwanted junk e-mail from
flooding my account. This e-mail was sent to you only because
you contacted me by e-mail. Thank you for your understanding.
If you choose not to pay, I completely understand, and I
respect your decision.
If your message is important, and you choose to pay $300.00
to allow your e-mail through, the message will be
automatically sent once PayPal informs me that the payment
has been made. There is no need to send the message again.
You can pay me securely by PayPal with Visa, Mastercard,
Discover or American Express. If you do not have a PayPal
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Sign up for PayPal
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Mail enabled public folder
Gurus, Ex2K - Native mode I have a mail enabled public folder (calendar) for a meeting room that I can e-mail when booking a meeting to ensure it is booked. This works, however it only tentatively accepts the meeting request. Some questions: - Can (and how, if so) can I get it to auto accept meeting requests? - Can (and how, if so) can I have the meetings it has already booked in show in the Free/Busy grid that displays when I select other users? - Can (and how, if so) can I get it to delete the appointment if I send a cancel meeting request? I am happy to be pointed to somewhere the KB - I have spent some time looking there, however MS have done something to their support site and every new page I get up asks me to debug. All help graciously appreciated... themolk. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 2000 invalid characters
Nope - that's just Andy. Up there with Martin Ed as far as I am
concerned when it comes to knowing their stuff.
themolk.
-Original Message-
From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 invalid characters
Oh man, you must keep that RFC next to your mouse! Or have
you remembered it word for word?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
Sent: 02 July 2003 23:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 invalid characters
+ is a perfectly valid SMTP character as defined by the
specification in RFC2821 of atext as the fundamental atom
of the local part of the address and then definition of atext
in RFC2822 (3.2.4) as containing: ALPHA / DIGIT / ! / # /
$ / % / / ' / * / + / - / / / = / ? /
^ / _ / ` / { / | / } / ~
The + character in some mailers indicates a special
function, but only during local delivery, not routing.
ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released http://www.swinc.com/erm
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:57 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Exchange 2000 invalid characters
Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 invalid characters
A + has no business in an SMTP address. Exchange 200x
should not even let you create that.
William
- Original Message -
From: Douglas, Josh D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: Exchange 2000 invalid characters
Group,
we are about to migrate to Exchange 2000 using the move mailbox
method.
I'm a little confused on the invalid characters situation.
Everything
that
I've researched says that it is just at the organization and site
name. We
have a consultant that says it is everywhere, account names,
mailboxes,
dl's. We did have an at our organization level and my boss is
worried
about the + sign in our dl's. I have not been able to find
anything on
the
web that mentions anything other than organization and site name.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Josh Douglas
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RE: Winmail.dat
Carmila, It's the international dateline - every time you send an e-mail to a group across it, it attaches the winmail.dat file so that when it is opened, it is read in the local time zone (and reflects that).[1] themolk. [1] Complete BS - but I couldn't help but throw it out there. -Original Message- From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Winmail.dat Some of my users are getting the winmail.dat attachments. The messages are coming from users in our Australian office. We're running Exchange 2000 SP3 on both servers, same Org, still on mixed mode. The users in both offices are all running Outlook XP. The weird thing is it's intermittent and it only seems to happen when it's sent to a distribution list. I've been searching on the web and a lot of the articles point to sending from exchange to a non-exchange mail server or sending to a non-Outlook client. Any ideas? Thanks, Carmila This email message may contain information that is confidential and proprietary to Babcock Brown or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original and any copies of the original message. Babcock Brown takes measures to protect the content of its communications. However, Babcock Brown cannot guarantee that email messages will not be intercepted by third parties or that email messages will be free of errors or viruses. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Winmail.dat
July 1 is like April 1... Is like any day I can try pulling a joke on any user! ;) You'd be amazed how many admins fell for that when I suggested it on another list (albeit not an exchange one). V. funny. Interested to see what the resolution is - I've never heard of the problem. themolk. -Original Message- From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Winmail.dat I would've fallen for it if I didn't know better. Maybe I can try telling my users that and see if they buy it. :) -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Carmila, It's the international dateline - every time you send an e-mail to a group across it, it attaches the winmail.dat file so that when it is opened, it is read in the local time zone (and reflects that).[1] themolk. [1] Complete BS - but I couldn't help but throw it out there. -Original Message- From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Winmail.dat Some of my users are getting the winmail.dat attachments. The messages are coming from users in our Australian office. We're running Exchange 2000 SP3 on both servers, same Org, still on mixed mode. The users in both offices are all running Outlook XP. The weird thing is it's intermittent and it only seems to happen when it's sent to a distribution list. I've been searching on the web and a lot of the articles point to sending from exchange to a non-exchange mail server or sending to a non-Outlook client. Any ideas? Thanks, Carmila This email message may contain information that is confidential and proprietary to Babcock Brown or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original and any copies of the original message. Babcock Brown takes measures to protect the content of its communications. However, Babcock Brown cannot guarantee that email messages will not be intercepted by third parties or that email messages will be free of errors or viruses. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email message may contain information that is confidential and proprietary to Babcock Brown or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original and any copies of the original message. Babcock Brown takes measures to protect the content of its communications. However, Babcock Brown cannot guarantee that email messages will not be intercepted by third parties or that email messages will be free of errors or viruses. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to cut down on spam
You forgot one... Tupperware = 100% themolk. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 June 2003 1:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Death and Taxes = 100% -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Nothing in life is ever 100%. I would be worried about any company that claimed their product worked 100% of the time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Rehorst Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam edoxs blocks 0% legitimate messages because they verify all entries in their filter are spam. Regards, Orin -Original Message- From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Well, you can set up the spamfilter to quarantine the filtered messages for later review and if there should be a legitimate message it can be retrieved. I don't think there are any spamfilters which blocks 100% spam and 0% legitimate messages. Freddie -Original Message- From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2003 16:46 To: Exchange Discussions Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL. Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely don't want to block real customers from sending us email--just the spam. --- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you want to take a look at this : http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. -Original Message- From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38 To: Exchange Discussions Hi all... We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we receive a lot of spam in the company. My company does not want to buy any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is there anything built into exchange that will help reduce the spam? Is there anything that could be done on the Outlook Client that will reduce the spam? We are also running GroupShield. TIA __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: how to cut down on spam
Peter, That said, the latest on the Spammunition website is to suggest he is changing the logic so that there is no need to manually rescan. I agree the errors are frustrating - but the product is not bad for free for a client. themolk. -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 3:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Spammunition filters very well, though you have to maintain a good collection of spam for it to use in building its rules. It just pops up error screens every once in a while. It also doesn't deal well with Inboxes containing lots of unread messages, as it rescans all of them whenever something new comes in, increasing the frequency of the aforementioned error screens. -Peter -Original Message- From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:51 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Can you elaborate flakey? They are hit or miss on filtering or the crash Outlook -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam There are a couple of free Bayesian spam filters that work with Outlook in an Exchange environment, Spammunition and SpamBayes. They're both beta at this point so they're kind of flakey, but Spammunition, the one I'm using right now, is quite effective. If you have individuals who are really getting hammered and need immediate relief, one or the other may help. -Peter -Original Message- From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL. Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely don't want to block real customers from sending us email--just the spam. --- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you want to take a look at this : http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. -Original Message- From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38 To: Exchange Discussions Hi all... We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we receive a lot of spam in the company. My company does not want to buy any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is there anything built into exchange that will help reduce the spam? Is there anything that could be done on the Outlook Client that will reduce the spam? We are also running GroupShield. TIA __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This message is private or privileged. If you are not the person for whom this message is intended, please delete it and notify me immediately, and please do not copy or send this message to anyone else. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To
RE: Configuration Settings
Raji, From my memory, the outlook bar shortcuts are stored in the user's profile (in application data local settings (I think)). To specify a folder to start up in, go to: Tools Options Other Advanced options - but I think it only allows to specify the big 7 (inbox, calendar, etc). I hope that helps. Good showing in the Rugby on Saturday... We are looking pretty sad for the Bledisloe and Tri-Nations at the moment! ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Raji Arulambalam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2003 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Configuration Settings Hi In Outlook if I create a folder under Outlook Today and put it in the Outlook Shortcuts, where is this setting kept ?? In Exchange server or in the local registry.? Also how can I specify this folder as the startup folder when Outlook starts.?? Using Exchange Server 5.5 , soon to upgrade to Exchange 2k Could you tell me where these settings are kept, as we need to deploy this to all our users. Thanks Email disclaimer: This email and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. If you receive this message in error, please let us know by return email and then destroy the message. Environment Bay of Plenty is not responsible for any changes made to this message and/or any attachments after sending. ** This e-mail has been checked for viruses and no viruses were detected. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick level backups
Why not put a link as the disclaimer? E.g.: signature Steve Molkentin BSES Phone, fax,etc http://www.bses.org.au/legal.html (there is no link here, just an example) /signature I just thought this might save 50 lines of crap in an e-mail... The person has been made aware of the legality of the document through the link... What do you think? Pointless? Saves rubbish in e-mails! ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 11:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups That's not funny !! I'm currently involved in discussions with our legal team regarding the validity of English language disclaimers on messages written in various different European languages (we route all our Internet mail through a single SMTP gateway in the UK). The legal team are pushing to add disclaimers in each language. Just because no-one ever reads disclaimers doesn't mean that they are not legally applicable - when was the last time you read the MS license agreement when installing software? And just because I select the other radio button and click OK doesn't mean that I have read the labels attached to those actions either. I would be interested in Williams disclaimer list if he would be happy to publish. Also, does anyone know of a disclaimer adder that is language aware? Otherwise I'm going to have to do some funny tricks with SMTP connectors and routing inside the company. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 12:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups That's ok some company will make a 3rd party app I am sure, that will force you to read or click ok before you actually get to see the email. Hopefully that won't happen. Probably has just haven't seen it yet. From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Brick level backups Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:55:46 +0100 1: Nobody ever reads them 2: Nobody ever reads them 3: People read the message, and forget to read the disclaimer 4: go to 1 Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 12:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups You have one like this for disclaimers. I know the basics why not. I would like to see your reasons of why disclaimers are bad. From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Brick level backups Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:19:25 -0700 I probably should reread this, but thwas my answer to this question A year ago - plus an added point. Why not to do Brick Level Backups: 1) They take a lng time. At my last position, the priv.edb on several Exchange servers was huge with several mailboxes exceeding 2GB. Backup windows of 'July' is not acceptible nor necessary. 2) Brick Level break SIS in the process. At a previous employer we had an SIS ratio of 4 (lots of little daily cash spreadsheets and the like getting sent to DL's). This means that a BLB backup uses as much as 4 times the total tape. Now I need an autoloader to take care of the boxes of tapes required each night. 3) You can't perform a full server restore to point of failure with brick level backups. You have to actually perform additional full online backups as well to allow for full disaster recovery. More tapes. More time. More money. 4) A restore of several mailboxes from BLB's will cause the store to grow because of no SIS. If my SIS ratio is 2 and some disaster leaves me with only brick-level, my restore will double the size of the priv. 5) The redundant backups for brick level lower the overall performance of your exchange server as backups compete with users for CPU cycles and disk reads. It is also additional and unnecessary wear and tear on tape drives. 6) Brick Level Backups do not backup items in deleted item retention. As my users (for email anyway) have always been of the educated variety, they know and use deleted item recovery as needed. 7) A restore of a mailbox is seldom needed. (Probably the only instance is inadvertant deletion by an administrator in Exchange5.5) With deleted item retention set to a reasonable 30 days or so, and with deleted mailboxes retained in Exchange2000, brick level backups fall in the category of a waste of time and resources. 8) Backups should not be a helpdesk support option. They are a disaster recovery requirement. With all
RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
What about Klingon and Elvish? Google is available in both, so people must speak it. Should we not then make disclaimers available in these languages too? themolk. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers About a billion people on this planet speak Chinese ... going to included that as well ? I like the fact you are going to add Dutch to the disclaimer, but around 99% of the Dutch population speaks and understands English very well. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Yup, Greek and Double-Dutch are in the list of languages that need to be covered. Web links are unacceptable since there is no way of checking whether the recipient clicked the link, or they might not be online when they read the message. We thought of using Latin since most of the legal team know that. Esperanto is a bit too leading edge. -Original Message- From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 13:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers *Has* anyone tested email disclaimers in the courts in the UK, EU or US? I'm not aware of any cases. I do find it ironic that lawyers, who knowingly write in a way that most people do not find clear, should be concerned that the disclaimer should be written so as to be understood by any recipient. It's all Greek to me. Or double-Dutch. Perhaps your disclaimer could consist of Legal disclaimer - you must read this in every relevant language, each linked to a web page which contains the text in that language. Or write it in Esperanto. -Original Message- From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 14:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups That's not funny !! I'm currently involved in discussions with our legal team regarding the validity of English language disclaimers on messages written in various different European languages (we route all our Internet mail through a single SMTP gateway in the UK). The legal team are pushing to add disclaimers in each language. Just because no-one ever reads disclaimers doesn't mean that they are not legally applicable - when was the last time you read the MS license agreement when installing software? And just because I select the other radio button and click OK doesn't mean that I have read the labels attached to those actions either. I would be interested in Williams disclaimer list if he would be happy to publish. Also, does anyone know of a disclaimer adder that is language aware? Otherwise I'm going to have to do some funny tricks with SMTP connectors and routing inside the company. The information contained in this e-mail is intended for the recipient or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential information that is exempt from disclosure by law and if you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any act in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete from your system. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient(s). If you have received the e-mail in error please notify the author by replying to this e-mail and delete it and all copies from your system. Any unauthorised disclosure, use, or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. Any views or opinions contained in this email are those of the author and are not necessarily endorsed by The Company, and The Company cannot be held responsible for any misuse. The Company does not accept responsibility or liability for any loss or damage arising in any way from its receipt or use or for any errors or omissions in its contents, which may arise as a result of its
RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Scott, and others, I totally get your point, and to some degree agree. An interesting addition... The Australian federal govt recently (last year) passed legislation to say that it is illegal to forward and e-mail without the authors express permission. Thus, a whole NEW addition to the disclaimer in Australia is popping up, saying that the author DOES NOT give permission for the e-mail to be forwarded. I think, whether we like it or not, the disclaimer is here to stay... It is how we as Admins manage it. My additional $0.02 (inc GST). themolk. -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the disclaimer issue it bad joke. The true responsibility of who the message went to is in the hands of the sender. If the message was addressed correctly then the need for disclaimers would be a non-issue. Sorry I watched this thread long enough that I had to put my two cents in there. I find it hard that anyone should accept the burden of responsibility for receiving an electronic message that was sent to them by mistake. And those disclaimers that try to shift the burden of responiblity from the shoulders of the sender to the reciever are a sad attempt at just that. -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers What about Klingon and Elvish? Google is available in both, so people must speak it. Should we not then make disclaimers available in these languages too? themolk. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers About a billion people on this planet speak Chinese ... going to included that as well ? I like the fact you are going to add Dutch to the disclaimer, but around 99% of the Dutch population speaks and understands English very well. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Yup, Greek and Double-Dutch are in the list of languages that need to be covered. Web links are unacceptable since there is no way of checking whether the recipient clicked the link, or they might not be online when they read the message. We thought of using Latin since most of the legal team know that. Esperanto is a bit too leading edge. -Original Message- From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 13:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers *Has* anyone tested email disclaimers in the courts in the UK, EU or US? I'm not aware of any cases. I do find it ironic that lawyers, who knowingly write in a way that most people do not find clear, should be concerned that the disclaimer should be written so as to be understood by any recipient. It's all Greek to me. Or double-Dutch. Perhaps your disclaimer could consist of Legal disclaimer - you must read this in every relevant language, each linked to a web page which contains the text in that language. Or write it in Esperanto. -Original Message- From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 14:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups That's not funny !! I'm currently involved in discussions with our legal team regarding the validity of English language disclaimers on messages written in various different European languages (we route all our Internet mail through a single SMTP gateway in the UK). The legal team are pushing to add disclaimers in each language. Just because no-one ever reads disclaimers doesn't mean that they are not legally applicable - when was the last time you read the MS license agreement when installing software? And just because I select the other radio button and click OK doesn't mean that I have read the labels attached to those actions either. I would be interested in Williams disclaimer list if he would be happy to publish. Also, does anyone know of a disclaimer adder that is language aware
RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Ben, I agree... Sadly, due to all the legal eagles rubbing their hands in glee over more work, and the fact that unless you tell someone not to, independent of the law, they can get away with it somehow, it's been stated that you have to tell them that they do not have permission to forward. sigh... I am looking forward to seeing any prosecutions out of it too... I guess it is designed to protect people like that whole thing in the UK with that lawyer talking about the taste of her boyfriend's... Umm... I don't think I need to complete that sentence. You know what I mean. Most legislation re: IT in Australia is knee-jerk at best. For example, they are currently discussing the legality of making spam illegal - but whose problem is it (ISP, sender, etc, etc, etc). But I think that all this is a whole other thread. themolk. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Seems like that disclaimer (I do not give permission to forward) would be unnecessary. If the law requires express permission then the absence of any disclaimer wouldn't constitute permission and thus unless the message specifically said I *DO* give permission to forward it would be illegal to forward it. I'll be curious to know how many people they actually get prosecuted under this law. Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 13:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Scott, and others, I totally get your point, and to some degree agree. An interesting addition... The Australian federal govt recently (last year) passed legislation to say that it is illegal to forward and e-mail without the authors express permission. Thus, a whole NEW addition to the disclaimer in Australia is popping up, saying that the author DOES NOT give permission for the e-mail to be forwarded. I think, whether we like it or not, the disclaimer is here to stay... It is how we as Admins manage it. My additional $0.02 (inc GST). themolk. -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the disclaimer issue it bad joke. The true responsibility of who the message went to is in the hands of the sender. If the message was addressed correctly then the need for disclaimers would be a non-issue. Sorry I watched this thread long enough that I had to put my two cents in there. I find it hard that anyone should accept the burden of responsibility for receiving an electronic message that was sent to them by mistake. And those disclaimers that try to shift the burden of responiblity from the shoulders of the sender to the reciever are a sad attempt at just that. -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers What about Klingon and Elvish? Google is available in both, so people must speak it. Should we not then make disclaimers available in these languages too? themolk. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers About a billion people on this planet speak Chinese ... going to included that as well ? I like the fact you are going to add Dutch to the disclaimer, but around 99% of the Dutch population speaks and understands English very well. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers Yup, Greek and Double-Dutch are in the list of languages that need to be covered. Web links are unacceptable since there is no way of checking whether the recipient clicked the link, or they might not be online when they read the message
The latest from MS and Australia on sp@m
For those interested souls... http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,6619047%2 55E8362,00.html (link may wrap - but I hope not). themolk. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MS Purchase
Ex2K3 sp1 ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: MS Purchase totally unrelated but MS just bought RAV anti virus . . . Any predicitions on how long until we see MS AV client/server or MS AV for Exchange? :) This mailbox protected from junk email by Matador from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MS Purchase
Sorry william - rtm? Not read the manual? themolk. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 8:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: MS Purchase Exchange 2000 RTM. - Original Message - From: Steve Molkentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: RE: MS Purchase Ex2K3 sp1 ;) themolk. -Original Message- From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: MS Purchase totally unrelated but MS just bought RAV anti virus . . . Any predicitions on how long until we see MS AV client/server or MS AV for Exchange? :) This mailbox protected from junk email by Matador from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: One Forest / Two Trusted Forest
Fioon, Considering what you are proposing, you would benefit from at the very least reading up on Windows 2000 Server. It is vastly different from a management perspective from NT, and the introduction of AD will additionally complicate things for what you are proposing if you do not have an understanding of what is happening. Inter-site replication is great. Win2K now uses a multi-pdc concept in the way DC's manage the domain, as opposed to one PDC/many BDC's that NT used. Learn, learn, learn, put into practice, then learn some more. You cannot be over-prepared in regard to implementing a new system (is my mantra, anyway). Not as nice or succinct as Ed C's, but I am working on it. themolk. ...currently undergoing a Freelance e-mail philosopher apprenticeship. -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: One Forest / Two Trusted Forest Oh! So you mean that DC in SL can still able to run if SG's DCs are down? Even for several days? thanks -Original Message- From: Chakravarty, Sakti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: One Forest / Two Trusted Forest So put a DC/GC in Sri Lanka! If you want a separate forest for SL you're going to need a DC anyway! -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: One Forest / Two Trusted Forest One forest is easier for administration. Will it makes Sri Lanka rely on HQ to run? Touch wood, if all DCs in Singapore down, then Sri Lanka will be affected? Maybe down for several hrs still can do, but if 2-3 days? thanks -Original Message- From: Chakravarty, Sakti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: One Forest / Two Trusted Forest One forest is easier for administration. It is not easy to share Exchange GALs between organisations in different forests. -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: One Forest / Two Trusted Forest Hi all, Preparation on upgrading fr NT4 to 2K. HQ in Singapore one office in Sri Lanka. For the time being, they only need to share Exchange GAL. Shall them built in One forest or Two trusted forest. What wil be the pro con... Any suggestion Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Chris, As much as I appreciate your POV, I will have to ring Ed's mantra in on this: There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioural problems. We must encourage (or train ourselves) all these kinds of users that we know that the Internet is not a safe place. E-mail cannot be taken at face value. E-innocence is long lost. It is not worth giving all those baddies valid e-mail addresses just because we want to protect Mom or Aunt Ethel. sigh My $0.02 (inc GST). themolk. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 1:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender? For us the 1% just happened to be one of our employees mother. She was receiving those what was that strange message you sent? for at least 3 months from people. It wasn't until she sent a message here, got one of our virus notifications and then eventually asked me about it, that the problem got cleared up. This was some 70ish year old woman that uses her computer for e-mail, small time web surfing, the occasional online banking session, and the perfect target for virus writers. For me it's more then worth it if you can help one person from sending viruses to the rest of us. If I get accused of being a spammer for sending those notifications, then so be it. Don't send me viruses and I won't send you those notifications in the first place. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harmer, Michael Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender? First, let me say that I understand what your saying if you are saying that you are concerned about the 1% and wish to help make the internet a better place by assisting them to control viruses on their computers. Now for my POV The one percent are basically causing the hardliners to spam the rest of us. Because most of the virus mail you receive is spoofed, leaving on the warning send back is the same as spamming. Basically you will be accusing someone of having a virus that they do not have, generating bad will between your company and the one you just spammed. I am speaking from person experience. One company late last week, sent us 5 e-mails indicating that we were infected with the active virus at that time. We were not infected, but because we are good admins, we sat down and verified that we were not infected, wasting our time. We knew the virus lied about the FROM address, but we checked anyway just to be safe. We then called the offending party(The company that spammed us). They told us we were infected and we deserved to get the message. Needless to say, we informed them what the virus does, and they said they could do nothing about the messages as they wanted to stop others from spreading infection. BTW, did I mention that their e-mail said that we wasted their time because we did not have a e-mail scanner on our systems? Needless to say, I will probably never do business with that ISP. They proved that they did not care about corporate relations, proper etiquette or virus control in general. The other problem with this is that the hardliners are propagating a 99% false positive system. If my AV system was that bad, I would get a new one. Heck my spam system does better that 3% false positive. What is worse is that the false positives are going to people who did not 'sign up' in the first place.(Hence the spam title) Basically, to me, this comes down to a matter of fairness. If the hardliners believe it is ok to call 100 people 'jerks' just because one of them has a foul mouth, go right ahead, but they will find it hard to make friends. If on the other hand, they instead pay attention to what your receiving and respond only where you have proof of 'jerkiness', they will have no problem making friends and they will make the community much happier. (No one likes a jerk) Michael - -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yea but what about that 1% that has no clue their sending out viruses? SNIP _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
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Has the list died? Where is everyone? mailto:themolk;flc.qld.edu.au +---+ | Steve Molkentin | | IT Trainer/HelpDesk | | D/Dial - 07 3372 0819 | | Mobile - 0410 680 018 | +---+-+ | Forest Lake College | | http://www.forestlakecollege.com.au | | The Springfield College | | http://www.thespringfieldcollege.com.au | +-+ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: stopping the SPAM
James, You have posted this 3 times. No one has replied. This can only mean one of five things: 1) those that can help are busy on other things 2) those that can help are busy trying to think up a helpful solution 3) those that can help are sick of you posting this message, and are refusing to help 4) you have posted this message to the wrong list... 3 TIMES! 5) there is no 5th thing Weigh up your options... themolk -Original Message- From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 5:37 am To: Exchange Discussions Subject: stopping the SPAM Lately, our School District has been getting more and more SMAM e-mails. We are currently using Scan Mail for Exchange 5.5 and the e-manager part to filter out SMAM which leaves a lot to be desired because when a user gets a SMAM e-mail, it is deleted (about 50%) of the time, however the user, in addition, gets a message that states The original message content contained a virus or was blocked due to blocking rules and has been removed. We have discussed the problem with Trend, and they seem to have no way to prevent the user from receiving this additional message. So what is the difference in a user getting SPAM or a user getting a message saying that your SPAM has been deleted? Isn't the whole idea to limit the number of e-mail messages to those that which have some meaning to the user. My question to the group is: is there anyone using a product out there that they are pleased with and that is preventing SPAM from getting to the end user, that does not send additional mails to the user telling them that their SPAM has been deleted? Any advise and or guidance on this topic would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. James J. Casstevens Network Administrator Napa Valley Unified School District Napa, CA 94558 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: backup failure
That's getting a bit harsh... themolk. -Original Message- From: Leo Ballester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 11:14 am To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure I see... The problem is not the backup software. The problem is simple you are a F Ahole and you should kill yourself immediately! Or tell me where you are and I will gladly do it for you. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure Apple System 7.2 and OS/2 with Dingleberry Backup 4.9 Beta 3. -Original Message- From: Leo Ballester To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/3/2002 7:07 PM Subject: RE: backup failure What software are you using? -Original Message- From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: backup failure Hi, My backup have failed for the last two days. I read the log and its says unable to attach to \\server\microsoft exchange mailboxes. my exchange is working fine, what could be the problem here. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are NOT the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: backup failure
I'm a non-existent cabal... themolk. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 1:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure I can think of a number of non existent cabals -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure Well done, Leo. You have single-handedly pissed off at least 17 secret cabals who are now plotting your eventual downfall and ruin. Due to cross-membership in many of these cabals, there will likely as not be correlation of these plots. And when it's all over and done for your mortal life, that's where I'm waiting for you. This is gonna be fun. And I'm not making up the secret cabals bit. Others will deny they exist, but that's because its more fun when our victims are confused as to whether or not we really exist. (:= -Original Message- From: Leo Ballester To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/3/2002 8:14 PM Subject: RE: backup failure I see... The problem is not the backup software. The problem is simple you are a F Ahole and you should kill yourself immediately! Or tell me where you are and I will gladly do it for you. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure Apple System 7.2 and OS/2 with Dingleberry Backup 4.9 Beta 3. -Original Message- From: Leo Ballester To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/3/2002 7:07 PM Subject: RE: backup failure What software are you using? -Original Message- From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: backup failure Hi, My backup have failed for the last two days. I read the log and its says unable to attach to \\server\microsoft exchange mailboxes. my exchange is working fine, what could be the problem here. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: backup failure
No dirty words here, either, but I am getting the warnings... Perhaps our names are naughty words in other languages, and only the content filters know about it? themolk. -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure Are all you guys getting nastygrams from the content filtering servers out there? I wonder why they don't fire on mSexChange... Dirty words removed from my post, btw... (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure I'm a non-existent cabal... themolk. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 1:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure I can think of a number of non existent cabals -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup failure Well done, Leo. You have single-handedly [offending word] at least 17 secret cabals who are now plotting your eventual downfall and ruin. Due to cross-membership in many of these cabals, there will likely as not be correlation of these plots. And when it's all over and done for your mortal life, that's where I'm waiting for you. This is gonna be fun. And I'm not making up the secret cabals bit. Others will deny they exist, but that's because its more fun when our victims are confused as to whether or not we really exist. (:= _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO reply...
All, In my experience, there are two ways to set up an OOO reply. (a) Use the 'Out of Office Assistant' - Tools Out of Office Assistant. This will only send one reply per instance of the OOO Assistant per person e-mailing. If you turn it off, then on again, you'll get another message from the OOO person. (b) Use the Rules Wizard - THIS IS DANGEROUS. You can use the rules wizard to set up an out of office like reply, but it doesn't go through the filter that ensures people only get one... thus if you use this and you're on a list (like this), then that's how mail loops happen!!! My $0.02... themolk. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Ouf Of Office I know for sure that they're only *supposed* to reply once per address, but that this can break. Took MS 9 months to fix this one for me -- so caution is best heeded. Missy - Original Message - From: Andersson Mikael (SIX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: Ouf Of Office Does Out Of Office responses to the internet really loop? I believed that OOF only replied once to every mailaddress!? Anyone who knows for sure? /micke _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sharing an e-mail folder for another user (Outlook 2000)
Thanks all for your help - in the end I am sharing the whole mailbox for the secretary... the boss is totally cool with that. Thanks again, themolk. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sharing an e-mail folder for another user (Outlook 2000) IMHO the last thing the delegator would want the delegate to see is drafts and sent items. But I guess you could tell the user not to look, cuz that always works. -Original Message- From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sharing an e-mail folder for another user (Outlook 2000) In exchange admin, go to the Permissions Tab for the user and add his secretary with user permissions. On the secretary's profile add her boss's mailbox. The secretary gets more than just this one folder but in my experience, they usually request the others later... Scott -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: November 18, 2001 8:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sharing an e-mail folder for another user (Outlook 2000) Gurus, We run Exchange 5.5 on NT4.0 with NT4.0 clients running Outlook 2000. I have a user who wants to share an e-mail folder OTHER than his inbox with his secretary. He already has his inbox shared with her (right-click, permissions, blah blah blah). We can share this folder accordingly, but the other user has no way to connect to it. When the secretary goes to open (File, open, other user's folder) all she has is a list of inbox, calendar, etc... and there is no way to stipulate the other folder (path or otherwise). Can you suggest a way for her to access this folder? All help is appreciated. Thanks in advance, \\themolk. [Steve Molkentin] [IT Trainer/HelpDesk] [Forest Lake College The Springfield College] [D/Dial - 07 3372 0819] [Mobile - 0410 680 018] Visit our Colleges on the Internet: http://www.forestlakecollege.com.au http://www.thespringfieldcollege.com.au http://www.extraordinarykids.com.au _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sharing an e-mail folder for another user (Outlook 2000)
Gurus, We run Exchange 5.5 on NT4.0 with NT4.0 clients running Outlook 2000. I have a user who wants to share an e-mail folder OTHER than his inbox with his secretary. He already has his inbox shared with her (right-click, permissions, blah blah blah). We can share this folder accordingly, but the other user has no way to connect to it. When the secretary goes to open (File, open, other user's folder) all she has is a list of inbox, calendar, etc... and there is no way to stipulate the other folder (path or otherwise). Can you suggest a way for her to access this folder? All help is appreciated. Thanks in advance, \\themolk. [Steve Molkentin] [IT Trainer/HelpDesk] [Forest Lake College The Springfield College] [D/Dial - 07 3372 0819] [Mobile - 0410 680 018] Visit our Colleges on the Internet: http://www.forestlakecollege.com.au http://www.thespringfieldcollege.com.au http://www.extraordinarykids.com.au _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
