RE: Email Archiving
Steve, With KVS there is one major problem, it is with mobile users as the offline/Palm pilots etc; only stores the short-cut not the original Email (the next version 3.8 should hopefully have offline vault to overcome this, but still not for palm pilots, etc;) so they cannot be read. N.B. But KVS WILL SIS PST's that are migrated back in the same store which quite a lot of the others don't. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving I am currently testing two email archiving solutions for Exchange 5.5 /2000. K Vault by KVS Exchange Archive Solution (EAS) which were the only products, that I could find, that meet our criteria. The main criteria are single instance storage, compression of the archive, pst migration tool so we can eliminate psts, and a simple user interface within Outlook. This eliminates a lot of products, IXOS, C2C Archive One, EmailXtender, Veritas, etc We also want to be able to utilize a SAN for the archive store for 9 exchange servers. Some of the access to the archive store on the SAN will be across small WAN links (128 - 512). I'm wondering whether anyone has had any experience with these products or similar products that meet our criteria and what your thoughts / recommendations on them are. I am particularly interested in any bad experiences with KVS or EAS. Thanks Steve _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (04) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
I'm not sure I see that as a major limitation. The point of the vault (in most cases) is to archive historical data. Active data should still be in the store. It's really very seldom (like never) that I want to pull a message up on my handheld of choice that's more than a couple days old. If I do run across something that looks like it might be useful, I have a way to save it in the active data. I do search through year old data sitting at my desk occasionally, and for that the vault works fine. If the handheld of choice has a full wireless web interface then it should be able to access the data either way. -Original Message- From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, June 07, 2002 4:00 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: Email Archiving Subject: RE: Email Archiving Steve, With KVS there is one major problem, it is with mobile users as the offline/Palm pilots etc; only stores the short-cut not the original Email (the next version 3.8 should hopefully have offline vault to overcome this, but still not for palm pilots, etc;) so they cannot be read. N.B. But KVS WILL SIS PST's that are migrated back in the same store which quite a lot of the others don't. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving I am currently testing two email archiving solutions for Exchange 5.5 /2000. K Vault by KVS Exchange Archive Solution (EAS) which were the only products, that I could find, that meet our criteria. The main criteria are single instance storage, compression of the archive, pst migration tool so we can eliminate psts, and a simple user interface within Outlook. This eliminates a lot of products, IXOS, C2C Archive One, EmailXtender, Veritas, etc We also want to be able to utilize a SAN for the archive store for 9 exchange servers. Some of the access to the archive store on the SAN will be across small WAN links (128 - 512). I'm wondering whether anyone has had any experience with these products or similar products that meet our criteria and what your thoughts / recommendations on them are. I am particularly interested in any bad experiences with KVS or EAS. Thanks Steve _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (04) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
tryingreallyhardtobepolite The archives. Read the archives. PLEASE read the archives. G. /polite,ish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 06:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving I am currently testing two email archiving solutions for Exchange 5.5 /2000. K Vault by KVS Exchange Archive Solution (EAS) which were the only products, that I could find, that meet our criteria. The main criteria are single instance storage, compression of the archive, pst migration tool so we can eliminate psts, and a simple user interface within Outlook. This eliminates a lot of products, IXOS, C2C Archive One, EmailXtender, Veritas, etc We also want to be able to utilize a SAN for the archive store for 9 exchange servers. Some of the access to the archive store on the SAN will be across small WAN links (128 - 512). I'm wondering whether anyone has had any experience with these products or similar products that meet our criteria and what your thoughts / recommendations on them are. I am particularly interested in any bad experiences with KVS or EAS. Thanks Steve _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
Christian, I found that 'Archive one' would have required at least some PF servers unless you want one with 200Gb+ PF store, eCon did not SIS the PST's when migrated back in and was heavy on the install with two CD's and lots of install options (Oracle/SQL etc;) also their pre-sales tech support was very light, but does support UNIX back end servers and uses MAPI to retrieve the messages (good for OST's/Palms). We went for KVS since we could HSM the data, SIS the PST imports set policy's at user level folders and for us in the UK there tech support were on the ball (answered code page problems etc; fast), but does not use MAPI to retrieve so bad for OST's/Palms). Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: Christian Schlosser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 May 2002 22:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hi all, The company I work for has recently decided to look at a message archiving solution for the crazy amount of email being stored. We're currently running Exchange 5.5 Server, Exchange client 5 with about 8000 mailboxes. The solutions we're looking at are Enterprise Vault from KVS, Archive One from C2C and eCon from Ixos. We have a shiny new IBM Shark that isn't being used very much right now. We're eyeing it up for email storage. I was wondering if any of you had any advice / opinions / experiences / praise / horror stories for any of these products, or any other archiving solution. Thanks! -Christian _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (04) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
Kvault probably has the longest history and the archives seem to say nice things about them. Some other possible solutions may be listed in the web links section of www.mail-resources.com. -Original Message- From: Christian Schlosser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hi all, The company I work for has recently decided to look at a message archiving solution for the crazy amount of email being stored. We're currently running Exchange 5.5 Server, Exchange client 5 with about 8000 mailboxes. The solutions we're looking at are Enterprise Vault from KVS, Archive One from C2C and eCon from Ixos. We have a shiny new IBM Shark that isn't being used very much right now. We're eyeing it up for email storage. I was wondering if any of you had any advice / opinions / experiences / praise / horror stories for any of these products, or any other archiving solution. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
Thanks. This is what I needed. -Original Message- From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving We are evaluating archive products. Current products we are thinking about evaluating C2C Archive One --uses Exchange public folder back-end servers for the archive www.c2c.com KVS Kvault --not proprietary, uses .msg files on NTFS with the zedlib compression library, SQL front end www.kvsplc.com Ixos--Proprietary file structure and storage, SQL or Oracle front end www.ixos.com *Warning, IE required Preferred in that order. Nathan Black -- Exchange Server Support Wisconsin Department of Transportation 608-267-9778 In Microsofts world, you are always one click away from harming yourself. -Elias Levy, BUGTRAQ mailing list moderator. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving Write it up and submit it to the FAQ maintainers. They love the feedback... In fact most of the FAQs are based on someone saying ... should be in the FAQ. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving Where does it mention Archiving on that page? It talks about deleting attachements and reading the Archives, but nothing about archiving products or procedures. b.t.w. IMHO, 4.6 should be changed to say that Sybari and Trend are the de facto standards. Seems like more and more folk around here are using Sybari. ...Joel Checking Magic 8-ball: Outlook not good. Oh! - Nathan Black -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm Read the whole FAQ while you are there, please! -Original Message- From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hello everyone. Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive emails coming in and out of the company? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm Read the whole FAQ while you are there, please! -Original Message- From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hello everyone. Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive emails coming in and out of the company? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
Why yes, almost anyone on this list CAN recommend a product. Especially since they can all easily read the FAQ (see link at bottom of all messages). -Original Message- From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hello everyone. Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive emails coming in and out of the company? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
Where does it mention Archiving on that page? It talks about deleting attachements and reading the Archives, but nothing about archiving products or procedures. b.t.w. IMHO, 4.6 should be changed to say that Sybari and Trend are the de facto standards. Seems like more and more folk around here are using Sybari. ...Joel Checking Magic 8-ball: Outlook not good. Oh! - Nathan Black -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm Read the whole FAQ while you are there, please! -Original Message- From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hello everyone. Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive emails coming in and out of the company? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
Write it up and submit it to the FAQ maintainers. They love the feedback... In fact most of the FAQs are based on someone saying ... should be in the FAQ. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving Where does it mention Archiving on that page? It talks about deleting attachements and reading the Archives, but nothing about archiving products or procedures. b.t.w. IMHO, 4.6 should be changed to say that Sybari and Trend are the de facto standards. Seems like more and more folk around here are using Sybari. ...Joel Checking Magic 8-ball: Outlook not good. Oh! - Nathan Black -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm Read the whole FAQ while you are there, please! -Original Message- From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hello everyone. Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive emails coming in and out of the company? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Archiving
We are evaluating archive products. Current products we are thinking about evaluating C2C Archive One --uses Exchange public folder back-end servers for the archive www.c2c.com KVS Kvault --not proprietary, uses .msg files on NTFS with the zedlib compression library, SQL front end www.kvsplc.com Ixos--Proprietary file structure and storage, SQL or Oracle front end www.ixos.com *Warning, IE required Preferred in that order. Nathan Black -- Exchange Server Support Wisconsin Department of Transportation 608-267-9778 In Microsofts world, you are always one click away from harming yourself. -Elias Levy, BUGTRAQ mailing list moderator. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving Write it up and submit it to the FAQ maintainers. They love the feedback... In fact most of the FAQs are based on someone saying ... should be in the FAQ. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving Where does it mention Archiving on that page? It talks about deleting attachements and reading the Archives, but nothing about archiving products or procedures. b.t.w. IMHO, 4.6 should be changed to say that Sybari and Trend are the de facto standards. Seems like more and more folk around here are using Sybari. ...Joel Checking Magic 8-ball: Outlook not good. Oh! - Nathan Black -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Archiving http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm Read the whole FAQ while you are there, please! -Original Message- From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Archiving Hello everyone. Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive emails coming in and out of the company? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
