RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Easily overcome by adding the legacy X.500 address (or distinguished name, if you prefer) pre-migration. MSW sucks arse when moving more than one server between orgs at different times. Something I do a LOT of. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Smith, Calvin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are in the process of planning a migration and have looked at Move Server Wizard and would definitely choose it over Exmerge. Not just for Single instance storage but also to maintain the links between calendars for meetings. People hate it when after the move, cancelled meetings are not removed from their calendars after acting on a cancellation notice. But one thing that we don't know for sure, If you use Move Server Wizard for a multi site organization, will you break the meetings that span sites? Will you break meetings that span servers in a single site? -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Understandable... I perform migrations both ways, it really depends on the scenario involved, but I see where you're going with this. D A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him. -David Brink -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, let me ellaborate on this a little bit. I work in PSS, in a group close to the group that the individual who originially wrote ExMerge worked in. That individual maintained the ExMerge code for several years. That individual has now moved to MCS, and is no longer maintaining that code. I'm not saying that it's buggy. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it. What I'm saying is that a lot of time and effort was used to delevop and test the Move Server Wizard. It is fully supported, and there are code maintainers for it. For moving servers between sites or orgs, in my opinion, Move Server is the best, hands down. I will recommend it each and every time the question is asked. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Strange, I've never seen Exmerge crash my server, but I suppose there is a possibility. Then again, wouldn't ISScan have the same potential impact? We (the general we) run these utilities occasionally for virus outbreaks, etc... These are the supported methods to ripping stuff out of the IS during these types of outbreaks. So how may I ask do you propose admins take care of their server then? Most of us know that there are different versions of Exmerge for the different levels of Exchange, now if this utility is buggy as you say, why do we Exchange professionals out in the real world use it? Why has it been suggested we use it? Or are you quoting how MS wants it done? For those of us in the real world, there is the MS way and there is the real way. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong for the last 6 years? At any rate, there is a risk involved any time you do anything to the exchange server databases. That's like saying that eseutil is NOT supported because it can crash the server. I'm just curious to your position on all of this. Being a part of MS, I know you can't divulge your honest opinion, but throw me a bone. I've been working with Exchange since it was born, so... I'm a bit curious. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, but you have my attention for the minute. D It's not your blue blood, your pedigree or your college degree. It's what you do with your life that counts. -Millard Fuller -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard You're missing the point. It's not FULLY supported. For example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed. See the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Funny, I've been working in this field for 6 years and M$ has never meant Microsoft as far as I can remember. I find it rather insulting that you do! D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Steven, I just heard the air leave the room as Martin's comment flew over your head. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Duh. It's not appreciated here Steven and Keith, that's what we were trying to tell you without tons of flames. However your ability to detect blinding sarcasm when you see it is indeed broken. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
As do I. I would like to remind everyone that we make a pretty good living off of all these products that Microsoft supplies. Thanks to them I can put food on the table and roof over my families head. You will not be receiving AB Approval either. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Funny, I've been working in this field for 6 years and M$ has never meant Microsoft as far as I can remember. I find it rather insulting that you do! D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
It's not his fault folks. After all he works for $tinson, Mag, Fizzell - a law firm. And we all know that law firms give away their services. They are a pure Pro Bono firm correct? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
AWWW, did I hurt someone's feelings, what a shame. What in the world is AB approval? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard As do I. I would like to remind everyone that we make a pretty good living off of all these products that Microsoft supplies. Thanks to them I can put food on the table and roof over my families head. You will not be receiving AB Approval either. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Funny, I've been working in this field for 6 years and M$ has never meant Microsoft as far as I can remember. I find it rather insulting that you do! D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
No, you didn't hurt anyone's feelings, but you DID lessen your chances or receiving any kind of valuable assistance in the future. D Overconfidence: Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you can survive the odds beating you. - - http://www.despair.com -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard AWWW, did I hurt someone's feelings, what a shame. What in the world is AB approval? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard As do I. I would like to remind everyone that we make a pretty good living off of all these products that Microsoft supplies. Thanks to them I can put food on the table and roof over my families head. You will not be receiving AB Approval either. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Funny, I've been working in this field for 6 years and M$ has never meant Microsoft as far as I can remember. I find it rather insulting that you do! D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
I think the secret cabal meeting should be moved up to tonight so that this thread can be discussed... Never mind, there is no secret cabal. Please disregard. Barry - MOS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard No, you didn't hurt anyone's feelings, but you DID lessen your chances or receiving any kind of valuable assistance in the future. D Overconfidence: Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you can survive the odds beating you. - - http://www.despair.com -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard AWWW, did I hurt someone's feelings, what a shame. What in the world is AB approval? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard As do I. I would like to remind everyone that we make a pretty good living off of all these products that Microsoft supplies. Thanks to them I can put food on the table and roof over my families head. You will not be receiving AB Approval either. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Funny, I've been working in this field for 6 years and M$ has never meant Microsoft as far as I can remember. I find it rather insulting that you do! D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
snickering Wha? Where? Who? Oh, nevermind... D The hardest thing in life is to know which bridge to cross and which to burn. -David Russell -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I think the secret cabal meeting should be moved up to tonight so that this thread can be discussed... Never mind, there is no secret cabal. Please disregard. Barry - MOS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard No, you didn't hurt anyone's feelings, but you DID lessen your chances or receiving any kind of valuable assistance in the future. D Overconfidence: Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you can survive the odds beating you. - - http://www.despair.com -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard AWWW, did I hurt someone's feelings, what a shame. What in the world is AB approval? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard As do I. I would like to remind everyone that we make a pretty good living off of all these products that Microsoft supplies. Thanks to them I can put food on the table and roof over my families head. You will not be receiving AB Approval either. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Funny, I've been working in this field for 6 years and M$ has never meant Microsoft as far as I can remember. I find it rather insulting that you do! D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: steven parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Look at the context of the usage and use your imagination, it should be self explanatory. ( M$ = Microsoft, of course :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard What's with the M$ stuff??? Can you explain to us what that means? -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated. Keith Beahm Network Engineer Stinson Mag Fizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ
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Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Exmerge is on the W2K CD??? Off to go check that out... D There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but only one view. -Harry Millner -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
I meant to say the Exchange CD rom under support\utils It will baulk about dlls but just add a path statement pointing to your exchsrvr\bin directory Minor faux paus smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 3:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Exmerge is on the W2K CD??? Off to go check that out... D There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but only one view. -Harry Millner -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ahhh... I thought that might be the case. ;o) D I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country. -Nathan Hale -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I meant to say the Exchange CD rom under support\utils It will baulk about dlls but just add a path statement pointing to your exchsrvr\bin directory Minor faux paus smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 3:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Exmerge is on the W2K CD??? Off to go check that out... D There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but only one view. -Harry Millner -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of course, you must understand that most of us realize that the SIS is broke when exmerge is run, but not supported by MS??? Doubt it... D A TV can insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
You're missing the point. It's not FULLY supported. For example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed. See the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Next thing you will be telling me its under warranty product Most people on this list have been around exmerge and its various revisons and even the pst exporters pre exmerge!. As you know it was a BORK product and now has been placed on a mainstream product and in this case I think this has been a techie request and not a marketing ploy. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint so I leave it at that. smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 4:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Certainly everyone is entitled to their viewpoint. I was simply stating the fact that from my experience, I prefer Move Server over ExMerge, then I listed a few reasons, one of them being that Move Server is fully supported, while ExMerge is not. To some customers, that reason alone is enough to use the tool that I prefer them using. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Next thing you will be telling me its under warranty product Most people on this list have been around exmerge and its various revisons and even the pst exporters pre exmerge!. As you know it was a BORK product and now has been placed on a mainstream product and in this case I think this has been a techie request and not a marketing ploy. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint so I leave it at that. smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 4:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Strange, I've never seen Exmerge crash my server, but I suppose there is a possibility. Then again, wouldn't ISScan have the same potential impact? We (the general we) run these utilities occasionally for virus outbreaks, etc... These are the supported methods to ripping stuff out of the IS during these types of outbreaks. So how may I ask do you propose admins take care of their server then? Most of us know that there are different versions of Exmerge for the different levels of Exchange, now if this utility is buggy as you say, why do we Exchange professionals out in the real world use it? Why has it been suggested we use it? Or are you quoting how MS wants it done? For those of us in the real world, there is the MS way and there is the real way. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong for the last 6 years? At any rate, there is a risk involved any time you do anything to the exchange server databases. That's like saying that eseutil is NOT supported because it can crash the server. I'm just curious to your position on all of this. Being a part of MS, I know you can't divulge your honest opinion, but throw me a bone. I've been working with Exchange since it was born, so... I'm a bit curious. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, but you have my attention for the minute. D It's not your blue blood, your pedigree or your college degree. It's what you do with your life that counts. -Millard Fuller -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard You're missing the point. It's not FULLY supported. For example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed. See the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
I'm curious as to which part of MS you work in... The Exchange team? PSS? MCS? D Press any key to continue or any other key to quit... -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Certainly everyone is entitled to their viewpoint. I was simply stating the fact that from my experience, I prefer Move Server over ExMerge, then I listed a few reasons, one of them being that Move Server is fully supported, while ExMerge is not. To some customers, that reason alone is enough to use the tool that I prefer them using. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Next thing you will be telling me its under warranty product Most people on this list have been around exmerge and its various revisons and even the pst exporters pre exmerge!. As you know it was a BORK product and now has been placed on a mainstream product and in this case I think this has been a techie request and not a marketing ploy. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint so I leave it at that. smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 4:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Publisher -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I'm curious as to which part of MS you work in... The Exchange team? PSS? MCS? D Press any key to continue or any other key to quit... -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Certainly everyone is entitled to their viewpoint. I was simply stating the fact that from my experience, I prefer Move Server over ExMerge, then I listed a few reasons, one of them being that Move Server is fully supported, while ExMerge is not. To some customers, that reason alone is enough to use the tool that I prefer them using. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Next thing you will be telling me its under warranty product Most people on this list have been around exmerge and its various revisons and even the pst exporters pre exmerge!. As you know it was a BORK product and now has been placed on a mainstream product and in this case I think this has been a techie request and not a marketing ploy. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint so I leave it at that. smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 4:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Ok, let me ellaborate on this a little bit. I work in PSS, in a group close to the group that the individual who originially wrote ExMerge worked in. That individual maintained the ExMerge code for several years. That individual has now moved to MCS, and is no longer maintaining that code. I'm not saying that it's buggy. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it. What I'm saying is that a lot of time and effort was used to delevop and test the Move Server Wizard. It is fully supported, and there are code maintainers for it. For moving servers between sites or orgs, in my opinion, Move Server is the best, hands down. I will recommend it each and every time the question is asked. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Strange, I've never seen Exmerge crash my server, but I suppose there is a possibility. Then again, wouldn't ISScan have the same potential impact? We (the general we) run these utilities occasionally for virus outbreaks, etc... These are the supported methods to ripping stuff out of the IS during these types of outbreaks. So how may I ask do you propose admins take care of their server then? Most of us know that there are different versions of Exmerge for the different levels of Exchange, now if this utility is buggy as you say, why do we Exchange professionals out in the real world use it? Why has it been suggested we use it? Or are you quoting how MS wants it done? For those of us in the real world, there is the MS way and there is the real way. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong for the last 6 years? At any rate, there is a risk involved any time you do anything to the exchange server databases. That's like saying that eseutil is NOT supported because it can crash the server. I'm just curious to your position on all of this. Being a part of MS, I know you can't divulge your honest opinion, but throw me a bone. I've been working with Exchange since it was born, so... I'm a bit curious. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, but you have my attention for the minute. D It's not your blue blood, your pedigree or your college degree. It's what you do with your life that counts. -Millard Fuller -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard You're missing the point. It's not FULLY supported. For example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed. See the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
um... actually, I've been doing a lot of work with the BORK and the tools, and many of them aren't supported fully. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Remember the story of the guy on the beach surrounded by dying starfish that were washed ashore. There are thousands upon thousands lying in the sun. He tosses them back one at a time and someone walks up to him and asks, Why bother? You can't get them all. It won't make any difference. And the first guy picks up another and tosses it back into the ocean and replies, Made a difference to that one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of McGilligan, Sean Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Next thing you will be telling me its under warranty product Most people on this list have been around exmerge and its various revisons and even the pst exporters pre exmerge!. As you know it was a BORK product and now has been placed on a mainstream product and in this case I think this has been a techie request and not a marketing ploy. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint so I leave it at that. smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 4:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Yes, Alex works for my erstwhile employer. ;) Exmerge was written by a PSS employee (a personal friend of mine here in TX). Utilities written like that, instead of out of Dev, are not expressly supported by MS. They are classed as BORK utilites; best-effort support. - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge. -aseigler -Original Message- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Well since you kind of apologized. We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process. [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module -Original Message- From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, so I give. M$ was meant to convey Microsoft. Is this better - MS Exchange Move Server Wizard? I've been reading this column for the last year now. I knew to expect the sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
Understandable... I perform migrations both ways, it really depends on the scenario involved, but I see where you're going with this. D A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him. -David Brink -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, let me ellaborate on this a little bit. I work in PSS, in a group close to the group that the individual who originially wrote ExMerge worked in. That individual maintained the ExMerge code for several years. That individual has now moved to MCS, and is no longer maintaining that code. I'm not saying that it's buggy. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it. What I'm saying is that a lot of time and effort was used to delevop and test the Move Server Wizard. It is fully supported, and there are code maintainers for it. For moving servers between sites or orgs, in my opinion, Move Server is the best, hands down. I will recommend it each and every time the question is asked. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Strange, I've never seen Exmerge crash my server, but I suppose there is a possibility. Then again, wouldn't ISScan have the same potential impact? We (the general we) run these utilities occasionally for virus outbreaks, etc... These are the supported methods to ripping stuff out of the IS during these types of outbreaks. So how may I ask do you propose admins take care of their server then? Most of us know that there are different versions of Exmerge for the different levels of Exchange, now if this utility is buggy as you say, why do we Exchange professionals out in the real world use it? Why has it been suggested we use it? Or are you quoting how MS wants it done? For those of us in the real world, there is the MS way and there is the real way. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong for the last 6 years? At any rate, there is a risk involved any time you do anything to the exchange server databases. That's like saying that eseutil is NOT supported because it can crash the server. I'm just curious to your position on all of this. Being a part of MS, I know you can't divulge your honest opinion, but throw me a bone. I've been working with Exchange since it was born, so... I'm a bit curious. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, but you have my attention for the minute. D It's not your blue blood, your pedigree or your college degree. It's what you do with your life that counts. -Millard Fuller -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard You're missing the point. It's not FULLY supported. For example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed. See the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Gentlemen, This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though) My pennies worth Merry Xmas smcgilligan -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard I prefer the move server process. As long as you're using the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep single instance storage. On top of that, move server
RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
We are in the process of planning a migration and have looked at Move Server Wizard and would definitely choose it over Exmerge. Not just for Single instance storage but also to maintain the links between calendars for meetings. People hate it when after the move, cancelled meetings are not removed from their calendars after acting on a cancellation notice. But one thing that we don't know for sure, If you use Move Server Wizard for a multi site organization, will you break the meetings that span sites? Will you break meetings that span servers in a single site? -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Understandable... I perform migrations both ways, it really depends on the scenario involved, but I see where you're going with this. D A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him. -David Brink -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Ok, let me ellaborate on this a little bit. I work in PSS, in a group close to the group that the individual who originially wrote ExMerge worked in. That individual maintained the ExMerge code for several years. That individual has now moved to MCS, and is no longer maintaining that code. I'm not saying that it's buggy. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it. What I'm saying is that a lot of time and effort was used to delevop and test the Move Server Wizard. It is fully supported, and there are code maintainers for it. For moving servers between sites or orgs, in my opinion, Move Server is the best, hands down. I will recommend it each and every time the question is asked. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Strange, I've never seen Exmerge crash my server, but I suppose there is a possibility. Then again, wouldn't ISScan have the same potential impact? We (the general we) run these utilities occasionally for virus outbreaks, etc... These are the supported methods to ripping stuff out of the IS during these types of outbreaks. So how may I ask do you propose admins take care of their server then? Most of us know that there are different versions of Exmerge for the different levels of Exchange, now if this utility is buggy as you say, why do we Exchange professionals out in the real world use it? Why has it been suggested we use it? Or are you quoting how MS wants it done? For those of us in the real world, there is the MS way and there is the real way. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong for the last 6 years? At any rate, there is a risk involved any time you do anything to the exchange server databases. That's like saying that eseutil is NOT supported because it can crash the server. I'm just curious to your position on all of this. Being a part of MS, I know you can't divulge your honest opinion, but throw me a bone. I've been working with Exchange since it was born, so... I'm a bit curious. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, but you have my attention for the minute. D It's not your blue blood, your pedigree or your college degree. It's what you do with your life that counts. -Millard Fuller -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard You're missing the point. It's not FULLY supported. For example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed. See the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc. Thanks, aseigler -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard Alex, I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason will assume you work there. Where are you getting the bright idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that matter? Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been employed there. D The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle Onassis -Original Message- From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported. -aseigler -Original Message- From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM
