RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-13 Thread North Martin

1).The forwarding, to a users Internet based mail system, of messages sent
originally to his Exchange based system when he does not have access to it.
2).I am fully aware of the implications of allowing automatic
replies and/or forwards to the internet.



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 From: Scharff, Chris[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 12 September 2001 17:58
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 Much better. Now, before I answer the question, let me ask a couple of
 other
 fishing related questions. 
 
 1. What is it you're ultimately trying to achieve? (paint me a picture)
 
 2. Are you aware of the implications of allowing automatic replies and/or
 forwards to the internet?
 
 *
   Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
   Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
 * 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  Ok lets try again,
  This is done in exchange client 5 NOT outlook.
  From the menu bar select :- tools, inbox assistant, add rule
  A dialogue box open with numerous options** , leave them all 
  empty except
  for the forward entry, here we put a tick in the box and 
  enter the address
  you want to forward  the message to - eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 
  underneath this
  entry select the method  , I have used leave the message 
  intact. Click
  on the OK button and the system responds with the following message :-
  This rule will fire for all incoming messages. Is this what you want.?
  selected  yes. A new box is displayed with the rule listed 
  showing status
  (tick in box to show its active) , Condition - All messages 
  and Action
  Forward To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  ** The options are as follows- From , Sent To, Sent 
  directly to me,
  Copied (CC) to me , Subject, Message body, Move , 
  Copy, Forward,
  Reply template and Custom
  
  I have tried selecting the copied (cc) to me and this works 
  fine if the
  mail is forwarded internally however, it falls over when you 
  try to forward
  to an external address.
  
  I hope this make things clear.
  
  Regards
  
  Martin
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   From: Scharff, Chris[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Reply To: Exchange Discussions
   Sent: 12 September 2001 16:35
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
   
   No... If that's what the rule said it would work. Your rule 
  says something
   else. The group isn't sure what it says as vague 
  generalities have been
   used
   where details are required[1]. Pretend I'm an idiot and 
  walk me step by
   tedious step through the process used to set up this rule.
   
   [1] Though generalities are no match for my amazing psychic powers.
   
   *
 Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
 Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
 Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
 I think so Brain, but . . . if we give peas a chance,
 won't the lima beans feel left out?
   * 
   
-Original Message-
From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]


The rule is currently set that all messages received should 
be forwarded to
the  new address 


 -Original Message-
 From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 16:10
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
  messages  [q195583]
 
 Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. 
I don't have
 anything which says simple check box to forward to an 
  external smtp
 address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an 
external smtp
  address
  
  Martin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 12 September 2001 15:58
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
messages  [q195583]
   
   Only when it's related to user error in the design 
  of the rule

RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-13 Thread Scharff, Chris

I would recommend one or more of the following:

a. using a cr/alternate recipient and having him call the help desk when it
needs to be implemented/removed.
b. Configuring a method of access to the exchange based system for those not
on the LAN (e.g. RAS or VPN or HTTP(S)) 
c. Not allowing automatic replies and/or forwards to the internet

All it takes is 1 AutoCAD file to throw most ISP based mail accounts into an
amazingly interesting mail loop. It makes a really nice DoS attack.

Anyway, the short answer to your question as originally asked is included in
a previous message of mine. ROT-13 and all that.

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  Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
  Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 1).The forwarding, to a users Internet based mail system, of 
 messages sent
 originally to his Exchange based system when he does not have 
 access to it.
   2).I am fully aware of the implications of allowing automatic
 replies and/or forwards to the internet.
 
 
 
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  From:   Scharff, Chris[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   12 September 2001 17:58
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  Much better. Now, before I answer the question, let me ask 
 a couple of
  other
  fishing related questions. 
  
  1. What is it you're ultimately trying to achieve? (paint 
 me a picture)
  
  2. Are you aware of the implications of allowing automatic 
 replies and/or
  forwards to the internet?
  
  *
Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
  * 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
   
   
   Ok lets try again,
   This is done in exchange client 5 NOT outlook.
   From the menu bar select :- tools, inbox assistant, add rule
   A dialogue box open with numerous options** , leave them all 
   empty except
   for the forward entry, here we put a tick in the box and 
   enter the address
   you want to forward  the message to - eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 
   underneath this
   entry select the method  , I have used leave the message 
   intact. Click
   on the OK button and the system responds with the 
 following message :-
   This rule will fire for all incoming messages. Is this 
 what you want.?
   selected  yes. A new box is displayed with the rule listed 
   showing status
   (tick in box to show its active) , Condition - All messages 
   and Action
   Forward To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   ** The options are as follows- From , Sent To, Sent 
   directly to me,
   Copied (CC) to me , Subject, Message body, Move , 
   Copy, Forward,
   Reply template and Custom
   
   I have tried selecting the copied (cc) to me and this works 
   fine if the
   mail is forwarded internally however, it falls over when you 
   try to forward
   to an external address.
   
   I hope this make things clear.
   
   Regards
   
   Martin
--
From:   Scharff, Chris[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
Sent:   12 September 2001 16:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
 messages  [q195583]

No... If that's what the rule said it would work. Your rule 
   says something
else. The group isn't sure what it says as vague 
   generalities have been
used
where details are required[1]. Pretend I'm an idiot and 
   walk me step by
tedious step through the process used to set up this rule.

[1] Though generalities are no match for my amazing 
 psychic powers.

*
  Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
  Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
  Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
  I think so Brain, but . . . if we give peas a chance,
  won't the lima beans feel left out?
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 The rule is currently set that all messages received should

RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Ewins, James

What does the rule say?

 -Original Message-
From:   North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]

When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified in the cc field
the inbox forwarding rule does not work.

I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found one reference
in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 2 , however I
am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have checked the
file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that all files
mentioned are later than those listed.

Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did you fix it?

Martin North
Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Scharff, Chris

Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
 in the cc field
 the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
 
 I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
 one reference
 in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
 2 , however I
 am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
 checked the
 file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
 all files
 mentioned are later than those listed.
 
 Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
 you fix it?
 
 Martin North
 Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread North Martin

The rule simply forwards the mail on to another external smtp address

Regards
Martin

 -Original Message-
 From: Ewins, James [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 15:46
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 What does the rule say?
 
  -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:42 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified in the cc
 field
 the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
 
 I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found one reference
 in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 2 , however
 I
 am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have checked the
 file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that all files
 mentioned are later than those listed.
 
 Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did you fix it?
 
 Martin North
 Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Scharff, Chris

No... What does the rule say.

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 The rule simply forwards the mail on to another external smtp address
 
 Regards
 Martin
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Ewins, James [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   12 September 2001 15:46
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  What does the rule say?
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:42 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  When you recieve an SMTP message with your address 
 specified in the cc
  field
  the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
  
  I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and 
 found one reference
  in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service 
 Pack 2 , however
  I
  am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I 
 have checked the
  file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm 
 that all files
  mentioned are later than those listed.
  
  Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
 you fix it?
  
  Martin North
  Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread North Martin

thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an external smtp
address

Martin

 -Original Message-
 From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 15:58
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
  in the cc field
  the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
  
  I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
  one reference
  in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
  2 , however I
  am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
  checked the
  file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
  all files
  mentioned are later than those listed.
  
  Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
  you fix it?
  
  Martin North
  Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread North Martin

The rule is done from exchange client ver 5 and is a check box -it does not
use a rule wizard as in outlook.

the rule is to forward all messages to the nominated user.

Have tried various combinations of the cc box only and addressed to
directly to me and none seem to work

 -Original Message-
 From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 16:04
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 No... What does the rule say.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:07 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  The rule simply forwards the mail on to another external smtp address
  
  Regards
  Martin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ewins, James [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 12 September 2001 15:46
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
   
   What does the rule say?
   
-Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:42 PM
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
   
   When you recieve an SMTP message with your address 
  specified in the cc
   field
   the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
   
   I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and 
  found one reference
   in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service 
  Pack 2 , however
   I
   am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I 
  have checked the
   file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm 
  that all files
   mentioned are later than those listed.
   
   Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
  you fix it?
   
   Martin North
   Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Scharff, Chris

Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. I don't have
anything which says simple check box to forward to an external smtp
address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an external smtp
 address
 
 Martin
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   12 September 2001 15:58
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
   
   
   When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
   in the cc field
   the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
   
   I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
   one reference
   in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
   2 , however I
   am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
   checked the
   file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
   all files
   mentioned are later than those listed.
   
   Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
   you fix it?
   
   Martin North
   Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Ewins, James

I admire your patience, you've outlasted me by 4 vague and unhelpful
posts
JDE

 -Original Message-
From:   Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]

Ok. Details are a nice thing.

Now, what is the exact combination you are using at this very second?[1]
Don't generalize when you can be specific.

[1] I actually know the answer to your question, and have known it since
your first post... but this is now a fishing lesson.

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:12 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 The rule is done from exchange client ver 5 and is a check 
 box -it does not
 use a rule wizard as in outlook.
 
 the rule is to forward all messages to the nominated user.
 
 Have tried various combinations of the cc box only and addressed to
 directly to me and none seem to work
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   12 September 2001 16:04
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  No... What does the rule say.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:07 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
   
   
   The rule simply forwards the mail on to another external 
 smtp address
   
   Regards
   Martin
   
-Original Message-
From:   Ewins, James [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   12 September 2001 15:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
 messages  [q195583]

What does the rule say?

 -Original Message-
From:   North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]

When you recieve an SMTP message with your address 
   specified in the cc
field
the inbox forwarding rule does not work.

I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and 
   found one reference
in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service 
   Pack 2 , however
I
am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I 
   have checked the
file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm 
   that all files
mentioned are later than those listed.

Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
   you fix it?

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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread North Martin

The rule is currently set that all messages received should be forwarded to
the  new address 


 -Original Message-
 From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 16:10
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. I don't have
 anything which says simple check box to forward to an external smtp
 address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an external smtp
  address
  
  Martin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 12 September 2001 15:58
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
   
   Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.
   
-Original Message-
From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]


When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
in the cc field
the inbox forwarding rule does not work.

I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
one reference
in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
2 , however I
am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
checked the
file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
all files
mentioned are later than those listed.

Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
you fix it?

Martin North
Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Ewins, James

Do you have a rule set to send the same answer?
E X A C T L Y what does it say?
Example:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
sent to random list
move it to the random list folder

Now you try

 -Original Message-
From:   North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]

The rule is currently set that all messages received should be forwarded to
the  new address 


 -Original Message-
 From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 16:10
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. I don't have
 anything which says simple check box to forward to an external smtp
 address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an external smtp
  address
  
  Martin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 12 September 2001 15:58
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
   
   Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.
   
-Original Message-
From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]


When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
in the cc field
the inbox forwarding rule does not work.

I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
one reference
in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
2 , however I
am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
checked the
file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
all files
mentioned are later than those listed.

Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
you fix it?

Martin North
Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Scharff, Chris

No... If that's what the rule said it would work. Your rule says something
else. The group isn't sure what it says as vague generalities have been used
where details are required[1]. Pretend I'm an idiot and walk me step by
tedious step through the process used to set up this rule.

[1] Though generalities are no match for my amazing psychic powers.

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  I think so Brain, but . . . if we give peas a chance,
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 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 The rule is currently set that all messages received should 
 be forwarded to
 the  new address 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   12 September 2001 16:10
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. 
 I don't have
  anything which says simple check box to forward to an external smtp
  address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
   
   
   thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an 
 external smtp
   address
   
   Martin
   
-Original Message-
From:   Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   12 September 2001 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
 messages  [q195583]

Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
 in the cc field
 the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
 
 I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
 one reference
 in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
 2 , however I
 am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
 checked the
 file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
 all files
 mentioned are later than those listed.
 
 Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
 you fix it?
 
 Martin North
 Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread North Martin

Ok lets try again,
This is done in exchange client 5 NOT outlook.
From the menu bar select :- tools, inbox assistant, add rule
A dialogue box open with numerous options** , leave them all empty except
for the forward entry, here we put a tick in the box and enter the address
you want to forward  the message to - eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , underneath this
entry select the method  , I have used leave the message intact. Click
on the OK button and the system responds with the following message :-
This rule will fire for all incoming messages. Is this what you want.?
selected  yes. A new box is displayed with the rule listed showing status
(tick in box to show its active) , Condition - All messages and Action
Forward To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

** The options are as follows- From , Sent To, Sent directly to me,
Copied (CC) to me , Subject, Message body, Move , Copy, Forward,
Reply template and Custom

I have tried selecting the copied (cc) to me and this works fine if the
mail is forwarded internally however, it falls over when you try to forward
to an external address.

I hope this make things clear.

Regards

Martin
 --
 From: Scharff, Chris[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 12 September 2001 16:35
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
 
 No... If that's what the rule said it would work. Your rule says something
 else. The group isn't sure what it says as vague generalities have been
 used
 where details are required[1]. Pretend I'm an idiot and walk me step by
 tedious step through the process used to set up this rule.
 
 [1] Though generalities are no match for my amazing psychic powers.
 
 *
   Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
   Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
   Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
   I think so Brain, but . . . if we give peas a chance,
   won't the lima beans feel left out?
 * 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  The rule is currently set that all messages received should 
  be forwarded to
  the  new address 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 12 September 2001 16:10
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
   
   Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. 
  I don't have
   anything which says simple check box to forward to an external smtp
   address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?
   
-Original Message-
From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]


thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an 
  external smtp
address

Martin

 -Original Message-
 From: Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 15:58
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
  messages  [q195583]
 
 Only when it's related to user error in the design of the rule.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
  
  
  When you recieve an SMTP message with your address specified 
  in the cc field
  the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
  
  I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web site and found 
  one reference
  in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in Service Pack 
  2 , however I
  am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4 and the problem still exists. I have 
  checked the
  file versions as stated in the Q Article and can confirm that 
  all files
  mentioned are later than those listed.
  
  Has anybody else come across this problem and if so how did 
  you fix it?
  
  Martin North
  Ricardo Consulting Engineers Ltd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
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RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]

2001-09-12 Thread Scharff, Chris

Much better. Now, before I answer the question, let me ask a couple of other
fishing related questions. 

1. What is it you're ultimately trying to achieve? (paint me a picture)

2. Are you aware of the implications of allowing automatic replies and/or
forwards to the internet?

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  Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 Ok lets try again,
 This is done in exchange client 5 NOT outlook.
 From the menu bar select :- tools, inbox assistant, add rule
 A dialogue box open with numerous options** , leave them all 
 empty except
 for the forward entry, here we put a tick in the box and 
 enter the address
 you want to forward  the message to - eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 
 underneath this
 entry select the method  , I have used leave the message 
 intact. Click
 on the OK button and the system responds with the following message :-
 This rule will fire for all incoming messages. Is this what you want.?
 selected  yes. A new box is displayed with the rule listed 
 showing status
 (tick in box to show its active) , Condition - All messages 
 and Action
 Forward To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ** The options are as follows- From , Sent To, Sent 
 directly to me,
 Copied (CC) to me , Subject, Message body, Move , 
 Copy, Forward,
 Reply template and Custom
 
 I have tried selecting the copied (cc) to me and this works 
 fine if the
 mail is forwarded internally however, it falls over when you 
 try to forward
 to an external address.
 
 I hope this make things clear.
 
 Regards
 
 Martin
  --
  From:   Scharff, Chris[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   12 September 2001 16:35
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  messages  [q195583]
  
  No... If that's what the rule said it would work. Your rule 
 says something
  else. The group isn't sure what it says as vague 
 generalities have been
  used
  where details are required[1]. Pretend I'm an idiot and 
 walk me step by
  tedious step through the process used to set up this rule.
  
  [1] Though generalities are no match for my amazing psychic powers.
  
  *
Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
I think so Brain, but . . . if we give peas a chance,
won't the lima beans feel left out?
  * 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
   
   
   The rule is currently set that all messages received should 
   be forwarded to
   the  new address 
   
   
-Original Message-
From:   Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   12 September 2001 16:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
 messages  [q195583]

Hmmm, your version of Outlook must be different than mine. 
   I don't have
anything which says simple check box to forward to an 
 external smtp
address. What /exactly/ does the rule say?

 -Original Message-
 From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
 
 
 thr rule is the  simple check box to forward mail to an 
   external smtp
 address
 
 Martin
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Scharff, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   12 September 2001 15:58
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Rules are not applied to cc  
   messages  [q195583]
  
  Only when it's related to user error in the design 
 of the rule.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: North Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Rules are not applied to cc messages [q195583]
   
   
   When you recieve an SMTP message with your 
 address specified 
   in the cc field
   the inbox forwarding rule does not work.
   
   I have checked this out on the MS Technet/web 
 site and found 
   one reference
   in Q195583. This states the problem was fixed in 
 Service Pack 
   2 , however I
   am on Exchange 5.5 spk 4