RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-10-01 Thread Neil Doody
Well my rule would be if theres nothing wrong with the e00.log file, do
not delete it, these log, in addition to being a pain in the arse play
an important roll in playing back the transactions that Exchange has
undertaken, you need these logs to do a proper recovery on your
database.



It would have been handy for me if I Had come in and they not been
deleted!

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

I guess that's the main thing they learned in their paper MCSE school -
delete that dang E00.log file, those transaction logs are a pain in the
ass anyway, just taking up space.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the
policy currently employed here is most people have PST's.  Now don't
taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to
have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day
rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the
64k sites.

Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and
most people keep there data in PST files.  I have used this problem that
occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very
least.  Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to
get it all changed.

Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on
Arcserve ;p

When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!),
others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come
online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out
of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server
back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data.

Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant
myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me
(anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p)

Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone
in the picture!  But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would
be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh?
But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed
up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are
lost, but they obviously weren't backed up!


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see
if
you can grab the mailboxes that way?
What caused the initial corruption?




- Original Message - 
From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Ben Winzenz
If Exmerge doesn't do it, you are pretty much out of luck, in my
experience. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM
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Conversation: Repairing individual mailboxes
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Andy David
Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see if
you can grab the mailboxes that way?
What caused the initial corruption?




- Original Message - 
From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the
policy currently employed here is most people have PST's.  Now don't
taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to
have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day
rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the
64k sites.

Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and
most people keep there data in PST files.  I have used this problem that
occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very
least.  Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to
get it all changed.

Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on
Arcserve ;p

When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!),
others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come
online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out
of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server
back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data.

Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant
myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me
(anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p)

Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone
in the picture!  But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would
be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh?
But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed
up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are
lost, but they obviously weren't backed up!


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see
if
you can grab the mailboxes that way?
What caused the initial corruption?




- Original Message - 
From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Martin Blackstone
That blows.
On the upside, a recovery server can be a simple PC as long as it has enough
disk space. 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the
policy currently employed here is most people have PST's.  Now don't
taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to
have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day
rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the
64k sites.

Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and
most people keep there data in PST files.  I have used this problem that
occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very
least.  Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to
get it all changed.

Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on
Arcserve ;p

When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!),
others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come
online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out
of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server
back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data.

Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant
myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me
(anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p)

Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone
in the picture!  But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would
be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh?
But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed
up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are
lost, but they obviously weren't backed up!


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see
if
you can grab the mailboxes that way?
What caused the initial corruption?




- Original Message - 
From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Tony Hlabse
If Arcserve is the main thing that your having trouble with, why not use 
NTBackup. Or does your version of Arcserve lockout sharing of tape backup 
devices?

From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:10:57 -0700
That blows.
On the upside, a recovery server can be a simple PC as long as it has enough
disk space.
-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the
policy currently employed here is most people have PST's.  Now don't
taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to
have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day
rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the
64k sites.
Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and
most people keep there data in PST files.  I have used this problem that
occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very
least.  Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to
get it all changed.
Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on
Arcserve ;p
When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!),
others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come
online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out
of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server
back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data.
Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant
myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me
(anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p)
Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone
in the picture!  But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would
be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh?
But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed
up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are
lost, but they obviously weren't backed up!
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes
Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see
if
you can grab the mailboxes that way?
What caused the initial corruption?


- Original Message -
From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes
I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.
If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.
I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.
Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?
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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
Just another quick question, if you may ;p

The peoples whos mailboxes are b0rke, the only way to tell they were was
the fact that there were emails in the queue that couldn't be delivered,
apart from that everything else checks out.

Is there any other way of running an extensive test that will flag email
boxes that are having difficulties and unable to have email delivered?

When I repaired the database I already run integrity checks and a full
offline defrag of the database, which should have essentially created a
new database and copied all the defragmented data over, I'm lead to
believe atleast!

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Michelle Harmon
Did you ever run isinteg?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Did you ever run isinteg?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
Then again, I just ran it once more to be doubley safe, but rather than
do alltests I told it just to do mailbox and it found 6 warnings in the
folders.  After finding there was warnings, I ran it with -fix and its
ran another 6 fixes.

Strange because I only did all of this last night, it must not have
detected some of the problems, or maybe there was a problem during
defrag?  I am stumped anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody 
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Did you ever run isinteg?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Ed Crowley
Keep running it until it finds nothing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Then again, I just ran it once more to be doubley safe, but rather than do
alltests I told it just to do mailbox and it found 6 warnings in the
folders.  After finding there was warnings, I ran it with -fix and its ran
another 6 fixes.

Strange because I only did all of this last night, it must not have detected
some of the problems, or maybe there was a problem during defrag?  I am
stumped anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Did you ever run isinteg?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Andy David
Defrag?
I guess the next question is what errors are in the event logs and if this
is 5.5, did you re-run the Performance Optimizer.


- Original Message - 
From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes


Then again, I just ran it once more to be doubley safe, but rather than
do alltests I told it just to do mailbox and it found 6 warnings in the
folders.  After finding there was warnings, I ran it with -fix and its
ran another 6 fixes.

Strange because I only did all of this last night, it must not have
detected some of the problems, or maybe there was a problem during
defrag?  I am stumped anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Did you ever run isinteg?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any
data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
Ai, ill do that now, but I did do it last night, I ran it, did some
things, then just before the defrag ran it once more and there was no
errors!  Then I continued to do the defrag after.

Maybe I should have run it once more after the defrag huh?  Ill know for
next time ;p

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Keep running it until it finds nothing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Tony Hlabse
I too once had a difficult Is that could restore from any decent backup. 
Took 3 tries using isinteg until the database ran clean with no errors. All 
I can suggest is to use the fastest machine you have to run it on.

From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:40:10 +0100
Ai, ill do that now, but I did do it last night, I ran it, did some
things, then just before the defrag ran it once more and there was no
errors!  Then I continued to do the defrag after.
Maybe I should have run it once more after the defrag huh?  Ill know for
next time ;p
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Keep running it until it finds nothing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Andy David
It typically takes 3 runs or so to fix everything if it can.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes


Ai, ill do that now, but I did do it last night, I ran it, did some
things, then just before the defrag ran it once more and there was no
errors!  Then I continued to do the defrag after.

Maybe I should have run it once more after the defrag huh?  Ill know for
next time ;p

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Keep running it until it finds nothing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Neil Doody
I do an NTBackup dump of it in addition atm, but even though most people
are on PST's it is still leaving me with an unacceptable level of hdd
space left, well in my view anyway.  As it stands they want to keep
the brick level ability to restore individual mailboxes, I think I have
persuaded them to buy the exchange agent for Veritas, so we can take
advantage of the SIS technology.  

I could use ExMerge on a schedule to start dumping peoples mailboxes,
but I don't want to implement any system that I foresee the chance of
running out of resources (hard disk space) so I'm just working with what
they are giving me.  Arcserve is working, but as we all well know, its
crap and besides the fact the data probably can't be restored it causes
database corruption.

I need these problems anyway to use as additional justification so I can
have my ideal setup :)

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 19:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

If Arcserve is the main thing that your having trouble with, why not use

NTBackup. Or does your version of Arcserve lockout sharing of tape
backup 
devices?

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RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

2003-09-30 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I guess that's the main thing they learned in their paper MCSE school -
delete that dang E00.log file, those transaction logs are a pain in the
ass anyway, just taking up space.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes

Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the
policy currently employed here is most people have PST's.  Now don't
taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to
have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day
rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the
64k sites.

Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and
most people keep there data in PST files.  I have used this problem that
occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very
least.  Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to
get it all changed.

Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on
Arcserve ;p

When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!),
others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come
online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out
of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server
back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data.

Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant
myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me
(anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p)

Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone
in the picture!  But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would
be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh?
But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed
up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are
lost, but they obviously weren't backed up!


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes

Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see
if
you can grab the mailboxes that way?
What caused the initial corruption?




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From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes


I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this
and the system is working relatively okay.  Some mailboxes however seem
to have gotten corrupted.

If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook
and there Inbox is empty.  I look in the system manager and the email is
stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system
manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox.

I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails.  If I delete
the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly
a problem with there mailbox on the server.

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