Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:32:29 +0200 :

 I took my Mozilla and downloaded from a server in the Netherlands [1],
 did a fine job.

Seems to be the server then. I may have picked the 2 servers which have
broken ISOs as James pointed out.

I just came back from breakfast and both downloads from nluug.nl timed
out at the same time! Can't be my side of the connection because mail
download worked as before.

I restarted ncftp and it immediately resumed download at the point it
timed out. How can I do that with Mozilla?

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** H.J.Bathoorn H.J.Bathoorn Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:26:09 +0200 :

 On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  I'm just d'ling CD1+2 from the NL mirror which Thorsten reported to
  be ok (nluug).
 
 My personal experience is that the surfnet one is more reliable but
 that might have changed in time.

I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both
connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :(

Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and it's
almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found out how
I can resume a download with Mozilla.

  going to have a big breakfast in my favourite café, read the morning
  paper and say Hallo to a new day!
 
 Ha! I remember doing that when we studied/lived in Berlin. That was 
 nice...can't do that over here in NL.

I thought you have cafés in NL, too? And morning papers?

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 08:32, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 I thought you have cafés in NL, too? And morning papers?

Yeah, but the bread is usually horrible if you've gotten used to the German 
choices.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 23:32, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  *** H.J.Bathoorn H.J.Bathoorn Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:26:09 +0200 :
 
  On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
   I'm just d'ling CD1+2 from the NL mirror which Thorsten reported to
   be ok (nluug).
  
  My personal experience is that the surfnet one is more reliable but
  that might have changed in time.
 
 I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both
 connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :(
 
 Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and it's
 almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found out how
 I can resume a download with Mozilla.

I've had luck using gftp to restart a download that Moz had aborted. 
when I started the download if found the original and asked what I
wanted to do with resume as the recommended option.  

James

 
   going to have a big breakfast in my favourite café, read the morning
   paper and say Hallo to a new day!
  
  Ha! I remember doing that when we studied/lived in Berlin. That was 
  nice...can't do that over here in NL.
 
 I thought you have cafés in NL, too? And morning papers?
 
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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 :

 I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both
 connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :(
 
 Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and
 it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found
 out how I can resume a download with Mozilla.

Now I'm really lost!
The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed
out and showed:


MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49  177,21  Could not read
reply from control connection -- timed out
get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file.


The same output I received from the servers last night.
This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both
with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition.
Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems
with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3
downloads at the same time using ncftp.

Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed
out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download
I give up.

Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and
can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for
other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until
October... :((

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Re: [expert] this one is harmless?

2003-09-10 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:39 am, many eyes noted that Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 8:32 pm, ed tharp wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 11:48, Miark wrote:
   I'm fuzzy on the list mechanism. Do you have to be a subscriber
   to the list to send something to it? Or does subscribing only
   allow you to receive messages?
  
   And since we have to confirm all messages that come to the list,
   how is it that any automated message could make it through to us?
  
   Miark
 
  ahhh, I do not have to confirm any messages

 Surely we only confirm when we sign up?  I seem to recall that someone
 said earlier that you can send a message to the list without being
 subscribed. You just won't receive the list messages.  If it was a
 bounce, perhaps that's what's happening.

 Anne

 I have in the past sent to the list under an email address which is not 
subscribed to the list, and I get a confirmation email, which I need to 
return to have the message posted to the list. I don't do that, just resend 
the original message.

Charlie

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These words:
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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

*** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 :

 

I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both
connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :(
Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and
it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found
out how I can resume a download with Mozilla.
   

Now I'm really lost!
The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed
out and showed:

MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49  177,21  Could not read
reply from control connection -- timed out
get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file.

The same output I received from the servers last night.
This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both
with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition.
Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems
with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3
downloads at the same time using ncftp.
Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed
out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download
I give up.
Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and
can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for
other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until
October... :((
wobo

You need to get familiar with rsync.  Navigate to the directory with the 
partial downloads and run this from the command line:

rsync -Pv --stats --progress 
ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD*

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

*** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 :

 

I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both
connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :(
Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and
it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found
out how I can resume a download with Mozilla.
  


Now I'm really lost!
The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed
out and showed:

MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49  177,21  Could not read
reply from control connection -- timed out
get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file.

The same output I received from the servers last night.
This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both
with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition.
Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems
with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3
downloads at the same time using ncftp.
Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed
out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download
I give up.
Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and
can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for
other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until
October... :((
wobo

You need to get familiar with rsync.  Navigate to the directory with 
the partial downloads and run this from the command line:

rsync -Pv --stats --progress 
ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* 


This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes out.  
Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file names 
and run the same command.  It should only download the differences 
between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a fraction of the 
time.  I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it will actually 
give you so you may want to keep an eye on it.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 09:55, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  You need to get familiar with rsync.  Navigate to the directory with
  the partial downloads and run this from the command line:
 
  rsync -Pv --stats --progress
  ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD*

 This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes out.  
 Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file names
 and run the same command.  It should only download the differences
 between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a fraction of the
 time.  I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it will actually
 give you so you may want to keep an eye on it.

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Brant,
I can see how this would work for directories but are you saying that rsync 
would actually go into the iso files to match them and then partially 
download?
I'd think you'd need to mount them with -o loop first (and mounting the local 
one rw).

Alas I don't have the bandwidth left to check that and it's only the first 
half of the month.

Good luck,
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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Brant Fitzsimmons Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:55:31 -0400 :

 Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
  You need to get familiar with rsync.  Navigate to the directory with
  the partial downloads and run this from the command line:
 
  rsync -Pv --stats --progress 
  ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* 
 
 
 This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes
 out.  Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file
 names and run the same command.  It should only download the
 differences between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a
 fraction of the time.  I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it
 will actually give you so you may want to keep an eye on it.

This is great. I never cared for this because I always had enough
bandwidth and a fast connection.

Now James saved my day as well with his hint to gftp. What can I say: I
resumed the download and it raced up to the end. Downloaded md5sum file
and the checksums matched.

Now I'll get the other 2 ISOs and if Final will come in September I can
use your hint with rsync. I'll save it anyway for future reference.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** James Sparenberg Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:31:54 -0700 :

 I've had luck using gftp to restart a download that Moz had aborted. 
 when I started the download if found the original and asked what I
 wanted to do with resume as the recommended option.  

Same here! You saved my day! Now I'm trying to kick my own butt because
I already removed the other files. :(

And of course I'll use Brant's advice to use rsync! 

This was a good learning experience how one gets careless by having
more than sufficient ressources!

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Re: [expert] this one is harmless?

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 3:32 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 03:24, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 5:55 am, Charlie wrote:
   Is someone interested in ancestry of :- linux, Linux Mandrake
   or ?
 
  Interesting one, that.  Coming through with the Approved subject
  line I was immediately suspicious, but ancestry.com appears to be
  a genuine genealogy site for USA, and rightnowtech.com looks
  genuine enough, so the only question is why mandrake?  Could it
  be that one of these sites has been hacked to include a trojan? 
  This is way beyond me.
 
  Anne

 They both run winIIS server... AKA virus magnate. Need I say more. 
 (btw to find out what a site uses www.netcraft.com and use the
 what's this site running box.)

 James

I suppose they don't even know they have a problem.  Perhaps we should 
tell them?  If I use my hotmail account (which is virtually a spam 
only account) I shouldn't cause any problems to anything else, I 
suppose.  Would you like to suggest some wording that will convince 
them that they need to do something?

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 3:47 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 03:06, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding
  informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was
  cat /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with
  aging grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a
  list of these really useful commands.
 
  Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list
  here that I could add?  Thanks
 
  Anne

 Anne it's been there for a while!... See my page

 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/QuikTips

 or the Tips and Tricks from the experts group page.

 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TipsAndTricks

 James

OK - I missed that, so perhaps I need to look at how we can make it 
more visible when you're looking for something.  Since we are trying 
to reorganise the index at the moment it is a good time to consider 
this.  There's so much useful info on the site now that making it 
more accessible is increasingly important.  If you haven't looked at 
what's going on, start at the NewIndex page.  You will see links to 
discussion on developing the community and the proposed new index.  
The more input we get and the better the end result will be.

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 9:54 pm, KevinO wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 
  As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to
  read that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision,
  dark blue text on black is not easy.

 Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the
 comment.

I didn't want to sound over-critical, but if no-one tells you there's 
a problem you wouldn't know.  I'll pop back and have another look.  
Thanks for being cooperative.

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 3:00 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  One thing sadly lacking imho is the urpmi gui interface. There is
  only blank spaces with locations for url and relative path to
  synthesis/hdlist: ?? Of course if you don't enter the information
  exactly correct, it fails. With no hints on what is wrong. There
  needs to be some polishing of this idea in my thoughts. A way to
  browse around a ftp site and select where you want it to point
  to, or at least an error code telling you what is wrong. I've
  even tried the http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon site which has
  worked for me in the past. My 9.1 mdk doesn't seem to like the
  syntax he is suggesting I use. Very frustrating.

 The urpmi GUI is called rpmdrake. You can enter the info there, but
 I find it easier to let urpmi handle the set up for me, or for
 looking for one little program.

I'm very surprised to hear his comment about the Easy URPMI site.  It 
set up my sources under 9.1 without any problems at all.

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Re: [expert] Login problem

2003-09-10 Thread Glenn Johnson
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 11:25 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 16:23, Glenn Johnson wrote:
  Hi folks. Question about MDK 9.1. I've been running 9.1 since it came
  out, with few major problems. However, when I've booted my computer the
  last 2 nights it makes it's way to the graphical login screen with no
  noticeable problems, but the mouse won't move and the caps lock and
  scroll lock lights are flashing as I'm prompted to log in. The numlock
  light is not flashing nor is it lit at this time. Oh yeah, keyboard
  doesn't work either.

 that's a kernel panic. If you had access to a console, it would be
 saying AIIEE!!! killed interrupt handler at  and a whole bunch of
 illegible stuff.

  Now, since I'm
  the consumate Linux genius I hit the reset button to reboot (can't get to
  another terminal). System wants to run fsck, you know, press Y in 5
  seconds. So I press Y and after a few minutes I'm left at a term window
  because system says can't fix file system. No graphics or X.

 if you have ext3 or one of the other journalling filesystems, you do not
 need to say Y here.

I do have ext3. 

  I wonder what
  I should have done. I ran drakxconf and checked the display config.
  Everything seems ok, so get out of there and reboot again. This time all
  is well and I make it to KDE. No prob for the rest of the night. Tonight
  the same thing, i.e., mouse frozen, lights flashing, no keyboard, hit
  reset. Computer reboots, sez to hit Y again to run fsck, but I pass on
  the offer. Again all is well and here I am in KDE land.
 
  Any ideas what causes this behavior guys and gals? The computer's
  behavior, not mine. :)

 well, something is causing the kernel to panic, and that's usually a
 sign of flaky hardware. The first time you boot, are you a) rebooting
 from Windows or b) cold-booting from power-off? If so, flaky hardware
 goes way high on the list of possibilities.

 less /var/log/messages and look for the stuff that you see when it
 reboots, then scroll up from there and you'll see if there was anything
 troublesome logged. Usually bad hardware just pulls the rug out before
 Linux can write anything to the log, but sometimes you get lucky and
 there'll be warning messages there.

Thought occured to me this morning re hardware. I've been having a lot of 
trouble with the cd burner lately. That's secondary master. Put it into 
another computer and it worked perfectly. Also bought a new hard drive 
because I was SURE that I lost the 20 gig to failure. That was/is primary 
slave. Here's one message I'm seeing very often in /var/log/messages:
DriveReady SeekComplete Error. That's for /dev/hdd which is my cdrom.
And another: SCSI Error: host 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 802
Sense class 7, sense error 0, extended sense 0
That's in there many many times.
And another: I/O error: dev 0b:00; sector xx

More:  unknown group video and caught SIGHUP and defaulting to GID=0. 
The list goes on. This is a huge /var/log messages. Some 20,000 lines.

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Re: [expert] Login problem

2003-09-10 Thread Glenn Johnson
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 12:05 am, lorne wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 September 2003 08:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 16:23, Glenn Johnson wrote:
   Hi folks. Question about MDK 9.1. I've been running 9.1 since it came
   out, with few major problems. However, when I've booted my computer the
   last 2 nights it makes it's way to the graphical login screen with no
   noticeable problems, but the mouse won't move and the caps lock and
   scroll lock lights are flashing as I'm prompted to log in. The numlock
   light is not flashing nor is it lit at this time. Oh yeah, keyboard
   doesn't work either. Now, since I'm the consumate Linux genius I hit
   the reset button to reboot (can't get to another terminal). System
   wants to run fsck, you know, press Y in 5 seconds. So I press Y and
   after a few minutes I'm left at a term window because system says
   can't fix file system. No graphics or X. I wonder what I should have
   done. I ran drakxconf and checked the display config. Everything seems
   ok, so get out of there and reboot again. This time all is well and I
   make it to KDE. No prob for the rest of the night. Tonight the same
   thing, i.e., mouse frozen, lights flashing, no keyboard, hit reset.
   Computer reboots, sez to hit Y again to run fsck, but I pass on the
   offer. Again all is well and here I am in KDE land.
  
   Any ideas what causes this behavior guys and gals? The computer's
   behavior, not mine. :)
  
   TIA
 
  I can think of a number of things not least of which is heat. (bad
  fan) or bad memory.  is there anything in /var/log/messages to indicate
  a problem.  Have you opened up the box and Gently (as in no harder than
  your lungs can blow) blown the dust out.  (Dustpuppy LIVES!)  If fans
  and dust are all good to go.. try putting a desktop style fan blowing on
  the open side. If this seems to make things happy then it's definitely
  the fans  Replace they CPU fan with a better quality one (They do
  wear out.)  Also be sure to use some really high quality heat grease
  (Artic Silver comes to mind... but get the best you can find.)  between
  the fan and CPU.  If it doesn't improve things move to testing memory.
  Run something like memtest86 (freely available) overnight.  In the
  morning you'll know if you've a bad stick. (it's a long and very
  complete test.)  This really sounds like a hardware problem.  Not
  software.

 I agree with James. Flashing like that could be OS related, but... based on
 the way you explained it, I'm thinking hardware. What happens if you boot
 to floppy or if you throw another HD in it and run winbloze?

  james

I boot 5 OS's, because I can. WinXP, 2000 Pro, and 98 seem to work well 
although I use them infrequently. Don't use Redhat too often. Too user 
unfriendly in my opinion. However, I'm beginning to think that this problem 
would occur no matter what OS I'm booting, but since I use Mandrake 90% of 
the time... 

I was having a CDBurner problem in XP too. Spent many hours trying to resolve 
it. Seems to have disappeared by itself. I do agree with the hardware problem 
line of thought.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 01:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  *** Brant Fitzsimmons Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:55:31 -0400 :
 
  Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  
   You need to get familiar with rsync.  Navigate to the directory with
   the partial downloads and run this from the command line:
  
   rsync -Pv --stats --progress 
   ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* 
  
  
  This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes
  out.  Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file
  names and run the same command.  It should only download the
  differences between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a
  fraction of the time.  I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it
  will actually give you so you may want to keep an eye on it.
 
 This is great. I never cared for this because I always had enough
 bandwidth and a fast connection.
 
 Now James saved my day as well with his hint to gftp. What can I say: I
 resumed the download and it raced up to the end. Downloaded md5sum file
 and the checksums matched.
 
 Now I'll get the other 2 ISOs and if Final will come in September I can
 use your hint with rsync. I'll save it anyway for future reference.
 
 wobo

Of course you can always just set the new main contrib etc etc urpmi
points for your install and just run urpmi --auto --auto-select  No
need to re-install .. you'll have final.  (no disks but final) I did
that from 9.0 to 9.1 on this laptop.  (until the ide on the original
mobo died  then I did have to re-install.)

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** James Sparenberg Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:31:24 -0700 :

 Of course you can always just set the new main contrib etc etc urpmi
 points for your install and just run urpmi --auto --auto-select  No
 need to re-install .. you'll have final.  (no disks but final) I did
 that from 9.0 to 9.1 on this laptop.  (until the ide on the original
 mobo died  then I did have to re-install.)

Yes, but I always do a new install on a separate partition and tweak it
to my needs. Then I declare that as my working system and move the
data and clean out the old working partition to be ready for the next
version.

But concerning the download problems I ran into another problem. gftp
downloaded the CD1 iso until about 100k to the end, then stopped. Just
crashed with CPU running at 99.8% and my mail proggy told me that
there's no space left on my partition to write incoming mails!

I moved my /home to a spare partition and restarted the PC. Started gftp
and as soon as I connected to the ftp server cpu went up to 98%.

I looked at the logs and gftp showed a cache of 1.2GB. Which was the
reason my home partition was full!

Now gftp-log shows Error: Unvalid line in cache index file
Logfile is growing by the second! WTF!

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Michael Lothian
What I don't get is why it isn't shared using MLDonkey or xMule as this 
kinda makes people have to share the files once they're downloaded - 
unlike bittorrent.  I have a feeling htat most people who use it stop 
thw upload as soon as it all downloads. You'd also find bit torrent 
would be a whole lot better if everyone used it.

Hope that people actually consider using Donkey for downloading the ISOs 
as it's a great way of SHARING files.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:13:18 +0200 :

 I looked at the logs and gftp showed a cache of 1.2GB. Which was the
 reason my home partition was full!
 
 Now gftp-log shows Error: Unvalid line in cache index file
 Logfile is growing by the second! WTF!

I cleaned out the index file and restarted gftp. At the attempt to
download the CD1 iso gftp asked if I want to resume an interrupted
download and after Yes it downloaded some KB and said Successful. It
was not! Number of KB showed that the local file was nearly 80KB larger
than the original. Of course, checksums did not match.

Now I've wasted nearly all my bandwidth and all I have is a CD2 iso.
I give up and ask someone in Germany to send me the CDs if possible.

Never experienced such trouble since I started downloading iso files.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Michael Lothian Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:52:02 +0100 :

 What I don't get is why it isn't shared using MLDonkey or xMule as
 this kinda makes people have to share the files once they're
 downloaded - unlike bittorrent.  I have a feeling htat most people who
 use it stop thw upload as soon as it all downloads. You'd also find
 bit torrent would be a whole lot better if everyone used it.
 
 Hope that people actually consider using Donkey for downloading the
 ISOs as it's a great way of SHARING files.

The idea is not bad but file sharing systems like Donkey have all the
smell of mp3 and video sharing systems. I'd never let any Donkey ride my
machine (or was it the other way round?). Bittorrent is a whole
different story.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Michael Lothian
At least it's designed for sharing.

And I also seem to remember downloading the new tomb raider film with 
bittorrent and the buffy eps before they were released in the UK.

It's all a matter of what you share.

Mike

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

*** Michael Lothian Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:52:02 +0100 :

 

What I don't get is why it isn't shared using MLDonkey or xMule as
this kinda makes people have to share the files once they're
downloaded - unlike bittorrent.  I have a feeling htat most people who
use it stop thw upload as soon as it all downloads. You'd also find
bit torrent would be a whole lot better if everyone used it.
Hope that people actually consider using Donkey for downloading the
ISOs as it's a great way of SHARING files.
   

The idea is not bad but file sharing systems like Donkey have all the
smell of mp3 and video sharing systems. I'd never let any Donkey ride my
machine (or was it the other way round?). Bittorrent is a whole
different story.
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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 12:31, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Of course you can always just set the new main contrib etc etc urpmi
 points for your install and just run urpmi --auto --auto-select  No
 need to re-install .. you'll have final.  (no disks but final) I did
 that from 9.0 to 9.1 on this laptop.  (until the ide on the original
 mobo died  then I did have to re-install.)

 James

This is the lazy way I did it:
Dloaded the 2 cd iso's and booted  installed from that. Then removed all the 
cd's as media and added main, contrib and plf on top as sources.

Works OK upto now.

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SCSI card not recognised by MD9.1 - ??similar to [expert] Re: SCSI, Scanner... How?

2003-09-10 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
Hi,

First time subscriber, please excuse if this is all repetition.
I've had no success in solving this problem on the newbie list--

My disk drives are PCI/IDE/ etc.but I have an old useful 35mm film
scanner CanoScan 2700FS that runs off a SCSI Adaptec Host Adapter card.

Under MD9.0, there was a query Do you have disk/scsi? when
Upgrade-ing in Expert Mode, that allowed me to select the Adaptec
Host Adapter aha152x, insert appropriate parameters, and the Canon
scanner was recognised (I couldn't use it, due to lack of stable
drivers, but that's another story). After that, the SCSI device was
recognised automatically on boot-up.

However under 9.1, Expert install doesn't recognise the SCSI card or
provide any means of getting it incorporated manually, as far as I
can see.
Once the system is up, 
modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x140,.. 
etc.on the CLI gets the SCSI card and scanner recognised and  MCC
Scannerdrake gets the CanoScan onto the scanner database. But it's
all lost when I power down - which I have to do frequently for some
unavoidable dual-booting with Win$. It's a real PITA.:-(

Is there something I'm missing during Expert install? Or is there
some way of incorporating the modprobe, etc.into boot-up?


I've tried modifications to /etc/modules.conf and modules with

depmod -a, lilo.conf ansd running /sbin/lilo, putting stuff into
/etc/rc.d/rc.local
I googled linux Adaptec/AHA1520, problems and installation. Problems
referred to kernel problems around 1998,Installation gave essentially
the same information as the Mandrake Twiki SCSI entry, and got me
unfortunately, no further forward.


TIA

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Re: SCSI card not recognised by MD9.1 - ??similar to [expert] Re: SCSI, Scanner... How?

2003-09-10 Thread Pierre Fortin
On 10 Sep 2003 13:18:30 +0100 Douglas Bainbridge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 First time subscriber, please excuse if this is all repetition.
 I've had no success in solving this problem on the newbie list--
 
 My disk drives are PCI/IDE/ etc.but I have an old useful 35mm film
 scanner CanoScan 2700FS that runs off a SCSI Adaptec Host Adapter card.
 
 Under MD9.0, there was a query Do you have disk/scsi? when
 Upgrade-ing in Expert Mode, that allowed me to select the Adaptec
 Host Adapter aha152x, insert appropriate parameters, and the Canon
 scanner was recognised (I couldn't use it, due to lack of stable
 drivers, but that's another story). After that, the SCSI device was
 recognised automatically on boot-up.
 
 However under 9.1, Expert install doesn't recognise the SCSI card or
 provide any means of getting it incorporated manually, as far as I
 can see.
 Once the system is up, 
 modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x140,.. 
 etc.on the CLI gets the SCSI card and scanner recognised and  MCC
 Scannerdrake gets the CanoScan onto the scanner database. But it's
 all lost when I power down - which I have to do frequently for some
 unavoidable dual-booting with Win$. It's a real PITA.:-(
 
 Is there something I'm missing during Expert install? Or is there
 some way of incorporating the modprobe, etc.into boot-up?
 
 
 I've tried modifications to /etc/modules.conf and modules with

My /etc/modules.conf contains this line:
probeall scsi_hostadapter aha152x ide-scsi


 depmod -a, lilo.conf ansd running /sbin/lilo, putting stuff into
 /etc/rc.d/rc.local
 I googled linux Adaptec/AHA1520, problems and installation. Problems
 referred to kernel problems around 1998,Installation gave essentially
 the same information as the Mandrake Twiki SCSI entry, and got me
 unfortunately, no further forward.
 
 
 TIA
 
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Re: [expert] Moving /usr and /var

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Pierre Fortin Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:23:16 -0400 :

 On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:56:53 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Due to some problems during download of RC2 I ran into space issues
  in my partitions. I already moved /home to a separate partition
  which was easy.
 
 In case it helps, I use a separate /ISO partition for downloads (of
 course, I now avoid stupid s/w that insists on d/l'ing to /tmp or
 other) and ftp directly into it. 

I used gftp because I had this nearly complete DL of CD2 done with
Mozilla and was looking for s/w which would resume a Mozilla download.
James wrote that he did it with gftp and as he wrote it worked ok for
this one iso.

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Re: [expert] Moving /usr and /var

2003-09-10 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:32:02 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  *** Pierre Fortin Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:23:16 -0400 :
 
  On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:56:53 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Hi,
   
   Due to some problems during download of RC2 I ran into space issues
   in my partitions. I already moved /home to a separate partition
   which was easy.
  
  In case it helps, I use a separate /ISO partition for downloads (of
  course, I now avoid stupid s/w that insists on d/l'ing to /tmp or
  other) and ftp directly into it. 
 
 I used gftp because I had this nearly complete DL of CD2 done with
 Mozilla and was looking for s/w which would resume a Mozilla download.
 James wrote that he did it with gftp and as he wrote it worked ok for
 this one iso.

Had this problem with beta1, so I just moved the obfuscatedly-named file
over to a partition with enough space, renamed it and used ftp's reget
command --- worst part was getting this done before another Moz d/l ran
out of space too...  That's why I now have a /ISO partition and avoid Moz
d/l'ing for anything large.


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[expert] Panasonic DVD-RAM a Linux Backup?

2003-09-10 Thread Mark
Hello Everyone.

I am a little confused about the Panasonic DVD-RAM drives..   I see that
the DVD-RAM disks can hold 9.4GB, and in theory with good compression
they could make a very good backup device..

Well that's in theory, but there are a few things that i don't know,
does the 9.4GB RAM disks need turning over after they record 4.7GB?

Is the Device compatible with Mandrake 9.1 Linux..   Anyone on this
mailing list using one?

Cheers
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[expert] OpenGroupware Questions......

2003-09-10 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup an OpenGroupware server for a client for a demo and 
possable deployment. It will be on a mandrake 9.1 box. The setup needs to be 
as follows:

1. Needs to authenticate users from a WinNT box.
2. Needs calendaring with Outlook/Express or Mozilla/Netscape mail.

Where should I get the rpms from?
Do I need to have Cyrus-imap setup. Any tipson that if I do?

Any tips would be appreciated.

Ralph


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[expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-10 Thread Vincent Chen
Dear all,

Recently, I bought a CDR. While burning CD using
xcdroast at 48x, I can barely move my mouse or do
anything else. It is still very smooth burning cd and
surfing net under windows 2000. How should I tune my
mandrake 9.0 for better performance?


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Re: [expert] USB key drives and linux

2003-09-10 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On my Mandrake 9.1 with KDE 3.1.3, it just popped up on the desktop as
Harddisk (sda1) (unmounted)

right-click - mount makes it tick

I love Linux
I love Mandrake

On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 05:28, James Sparenberg wrote:
 From the Why I like Mandrake column
 
 Saw this over on extreme tech
 
 http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1256768,00.asp
 
 a 3 page convolution aka tutorial on how to setup usb mass storage
 devices on Red Hat 9 wow.  am I ever glad I use MDK ... boss handed
 me the first one I'd ever used the other day.  Plugged it in.  Typed in
 mount /mnt/scd0 /mnt/disk... and poof I was off and running.  Wow and to
 think that I actually should have done so much more *grin*
 
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Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-10 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:06:04 +0800 (CST)
Vincent Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Recently, I bought a CDR. While burning CD using
 xcdroast at 48x, I can barely move my mouse or do
 anything else. It is still very smooth burning cd and
 surfing net under windows 2000. How should I tune my
 mandrake 9.0 for better performance?

I would bet it's the 48x burning. Linux handles multitasking *far*
better than Win, AFAIK, but it is still dodgy with multimedia tasks such
as burning, sound, and the like. It's all kinda kludged if you know
what I mean, since *nix was built as a server OS originally, the media
stuff is kinda piled on the best way they can for now, least tha's the
way I hear it.

I keep my burning to 10x, and I can burn, read mail, web, compile
source, use VNC, and much more all at the same time without draining the
buffer or maxing my pitiful P3 866.

Try using GCombust as an alternative, too.

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[expert] Xawtv problem

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
My Philips webcam works perfectly under Camstream.  In xawtv all I get 
is a wide bright green stripe, with faint lines across it.  If I 
switch to full screen it is clear that there are four (iirc) ghost 
images of what the camera should be displaying.

Does anyone know what's causing this and what I can do about it?

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Not so funny side of spam [was Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring]

2003-09-10 Thread David Rankin
Not so funny side of spam:

Anne started ending up in my deleted items box after filtering
tiscali.co.uk what also has the reputation of a spam site. Don't worry Anne,
we will pull you out of the deleted items

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  Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
  Anne Wilson wrote:
  
   As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to
   read that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision,
   dark blue text on black is not easy.
 
  Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the
  comment.

 I didn't want to sound over-critical, but if no-one tells you there's
 a problem you wouldn't know.  I'll pop back and have another look.
 Thanks for being cooperative.

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Re: [expert] this one is harmless?

2003-09-10 Thread Miark
Ah! Okay fixed. Boy, is that going to make life a whole lot easier!

Miark


On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:43:27 -0700, James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Miark,
 
Being a member should allow you to send IF you send from the same
 e-mail return address you receive on.  For me if I send from my
 opencountry.org site.  No problem. If I send from my work server
 (Nisvara.com) I have to confirm.  So if you want to be able to do both
 without constant confirm make sure your sending and receiving server are
 the same.  (btw reply to doesn't work)
 
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[expert] Cyrus-imapd and postfix.....

2003-09-10 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all does anyone have cyrus-imapd and postfix working together?

If you do could you help me get things going on my Mandrake 9.1 box.

I have cyrus and postfix installed but thing aren't working.

Any help would be great.

Thanks 
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[expert] Updated kernel packages fix multiple vulnerabilities

2003-09-10 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Hi,

Since i build my own kernels from www.kernels.org,
patch them with openMosix, do i still need to apply
Mandrake's kernel patch?

_Thanks

Richard.



Mandrake Linux Security Update
Advisory


Package name:   kernel
Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:074
Date:   July 15th, 2003

Affected versions:  8.2, 9.0, Corporate Server 2.1,
Multi Network Firewall 8.2




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Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-10 Thread diego
I'd bet it's not using DMA

With IDE drives: man hddparm
would tell you the command, but no idea about how to get it when at scsi
emulation :-((


El mié, 10-09-2003 a las 17:25, HaywireMac escribió:
 On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:06:04 +0800 (CST)
 Vincent Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  Recently, I bought a CDR. While burning CD using
  xcdroast at 48x, I can barely move my mouse or do
  anything else. It is still very smooth burning cd and
  surfing net under windows 2000. How should I tune my
  mandrake 9.0 for better performance?
 
 I would bet it's the 48x burning. Linux handles multitasking *far*
 better than Win, AFAIK, but it is still dodgy with multimedia tasks such
 as burning, sound, and the like. It's all kinda kludged if you know
 what I mean, since *nix was built as a server OS originally, the media
 stuff is kinda piled on the best way they can for now, least tha's the
 way I hear it.
 
 I keep my burning to 10x, and I can burn, read mail, web, compile
 source, use VNC, and much more all at the same time without draining the
 buffer or maxing my pitiful P3 866.
 
 Try using GCombust as an alternative, too.
 
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Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-10 Thread Guy Van Sanden
First of all, what kind of system are you on (CPU - RAM), which burner
are we talking about?

Is it an IDE burner with SCSI emulation?

What could help a lot is tune your disc devices with hdparm (I got a
huge boost out of this).
Install hdparm with 'urpmi hdparm'.

First turn to your hard drive (/dev/hda I will assume), since it is the
source of data for both your writer OS and programs, it needs to work
optimal.
- check the current settings and mail the output to the list, this way
we can advice you better.
hdparm /dev/hda
Now, make sure you have the specifications of your devices handy. 

I use these settings for my Hardisk:
'hdparm -c1 -d1 -k1 -u1 -X69 /dev/hda'
Breaking it up:
-c1: turn on 32-bit disk access
-d1: turn on DMA (is probably on already)
-k1: keep settings over bus reset (you need this)
-u1: Unmasq IRQ (reduces waits between different disk operations) -
Watch out with this one, it has been known to cause system instabilities
on some motherboards/harddisks, but it works fine for me.
-X69: force IDE-DMA Mode5 (UDMA 100) (adapt to your need, check 'man
hdparm'

Test them out to see which one suit you best.

Now do almost the same for the cdrom/dvd/writer devices (e.g. /dev/hdc)
'hdparm -c1 -d1 -k1 -u1 /dev/hdc'
'hdparm -c1 -d1 -k1 -u1 /dev/hdd'
Again, test it carefully.

If you are satisfied with what you got, put it in a startup script like
the one below (which is /etc/init.d/idedma)
Then open the Control Center, go to system - services and set it to run
at boot.

-- done

Additionally you can also switch filesystems to get an even better
performance.
I found ReiserFS very fast, XFS has been reported to be great too.

Good luck and have a lot of fun!



 BEGIN SCRIPT 
#!/bin/sh
# description: hdparm setup voor harddisks
# chkconfig: 2345 99 00

HDPARM=/sbin/hdparm

case $1 in
'start')
echo Setting up DMA parameters (hdparm)...
$HDPARM -qc1 -qd1 -qk1 -qu1 -qX69 /dev/hda
$HDPARM -qc1 -qd1 -qk1 -qu1 /dev/hdc
$HDPARM -qc1 -qd1 -qk1 -qu1 /dev/hdd
touch /var/lock/subsys/idedma
;;
'stop')
rm -f /var/lock/subsys/idedma
;;
*)
echo Usage: $0 { start | stop }
;;
esac
exit 0

 END SCRIPT 



On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 17:06, Vincent Chen wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 Recently, I bought a CDR. While burning CD using
 xcdroast at 48x, I can barely move my mouse or do
 anything else. It is still very smooth burning cd and
 surfing net under windows 2000. How should I tune my
 mandrake 9.0 for better performance?
 
 
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Re: Not so funny side of spam [was Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring]

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 4:59 pm, David Rankin wrote:
 Not so funny side of spam:

 Anne started ending up in my deleted items box after filtering
 tiscali.co.uk what also has the reputation of a spam site. Don't
 worry Anne, we will pull you out of the deleted items

I'm not too surprised.  I'm not aware that much spam starts from 
tiscali.co.uk, but it seems to me that they make little effort to 
filter it out.

Anne
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[expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1 machine,
any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper displaying
and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with the MDK 9.1
build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 01:03 pm, James D. Parra wrote:
 Hello,

 When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1
 machine, any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper
 displaying and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with
 the MDK 9.1 build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly
 appreciated.

I suspect that this is the infamous anti-aliased fonts compiled into the 
qtlibraries bug.  Suffered from this one myself.  If you go to the Texstar 
repository off of http://pclinuxonline.com site, you should be able to 
download a fix for this issue which will remove the AA fonts from the qt 
libraries and enable tightvnc to work.

If you have problems, let me know and I will send a direct link to the source 
repository for those rpm's.

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RE: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

you need to update your version of QT. You can do this in your mandrake
control center...

David

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To: Mandrake-List (E-mail)
Subject: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines


Hello,

When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1 machine,
any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper displaying
and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with the MDK 9.1
build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: [expert] I need to update my mandrake box but my connection is expensive and pretty slow. What can i do ?

2003-09-10 Thread Richard
On Tue September 9 2003 11:03 pm, Luis Duran wrote:
 Hi Kevin,

 Thanks for answer. When i went to faster cybers here in my town
 (Acarigua, Venezuela) with my computer tenders get crazy and said
 that they can not receive customers property inside their local, i
 void to argue for hours with 'em. But i am interesting in know: How
 can i download all updates packages for Linux Mandrake 9 version, i
 never have updated my system and i would like it. What URL (ftp or
 http) can i go ?

Hello Luis,

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake/updates
has worked well for me from Cd.Ojeda. 
Look for your version and download all to burn to a CD.  

saludos,
Richard.


 Thanks in advance and Best regards

 Luis Duran

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   Hello fellas, i would like to update all my packages of Mandrake,
   one week ago i tried to do it but the files size are quiet long,
   i have a dial-up connection that is expensive and way slow. I got
   this idea, take my computer to a cyber cafe but that people
   didn't not like the idea. i have this question, Has Mandrake an
   iso image with all the updates that i could download from a cyber
   cafe without taking my computer there ?
  
   i will appreciate if you let me know about this.
 
  I use to haul my laptop down to the local, wired, micro-brewery and
  download the updates directory from a server to take home, and then
  run updates on the laptop. People are always hauling boxes and
  monitors into this place. The local Linux Users group meets there
  once a month.
 
  If you need to do more than just update the box you are dragging up
  there, set up a mirror and a small ftp server on your laptop (or
  box), use rsync to update the mirror on the laptop each time you
  hook-in. Then the laptop can be the updates source for itself and
  any other boxes at home on your LAN. The rsync goes pretty fast
  once you have the files all copied over the first time.
 
  What is the policy of the cyber-cafe? I used one in London that
  always charged me a little extra because I used my laptop, instead
  of using one of their windows boxes. How would your's react to you
  taking your machine in?
 
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Re: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 10:03, James D. Parra wrote:
 Hello,
 
 When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1 machine,
 any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper displaying
 and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with the MDK 9.1
 build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly appreciated.
 
 Many thanks in advance.
 
 James 

go here. 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/vncfix/

grab the rpms and update libqt... restart X (cntrl-alt-backspace) and
you should be good to go.  It's actually a conflict surrounding true
type fonts.  In theory the fonts get less clear when you do this.  But
danged if I can see it.  (Texstar claims he can.. I can't) 

James

 
 
 
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Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 11:06 am, Vincent Chen wrote:
 Dear all,

 Recently, I bought a CDR. While burning CD using
 xcdroast at 48x, I can barely move my mouse or do
 anything else. It is still very smooth burning cd and
 surfing net under windows 2000. How should I tune my
 mandrake 9.0 for better performance?


 Thanks,

Is it IDE or SCSI? If SCSI, I'm surpised. I have SCSI here and can do darn 
near *anything* while burning.

If its IDE, then you probably don't have DMA turned on for it. If you don't 
have hdparm installed, do it. Then do a man hdparm for full details but 
what you are trying to do first is make sure DMA is turned on so as root:

hdparm /dev/hdx (where x is the letter assigned to your CDR. If your hard 
drive is /dev/hda, then your CDR should be /dev/hdc)

You don't have the hard drive and burner on the same IDE channel do you? It 
should be separate, BTW.

Now you should have a listing of what your CDR is doing, look for

using_dma = 0 (its off)

or

using_dma = 1 (its on)

If its off, still as root, go to /etc/sysconfig/. Make another copy of the 
file harddisks and name it harddiskhdc (or whatever your CDR is). Now edit 
this file. Note the entry for DMA usage. Just turn it on and save it. DMA 
should now be enabled for your CDR.

I'm not sure if you have to reboot for this change to take effect. You could 
use hdparm to turn DMA on for your CDR until you do reboot.

BTW, you might want to use hdparm on your hard drive to make sure your getting 
optimal performance there as well.

HTHs! :-)

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Re: [expert] Xawtv problem

2003-09-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 11:27 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 My Philips webcam works perfectly under Camstream.  In xawtv all I get
 is a wide bright green stripe, with faint lines across it.  If I
 switch to full screen it is clear that there are four (iirc) ghost
 images of what the camera should be displaying.

 Does anyone know what's causing this and what I can do about it?

 Anne

Anne, when you first ran Xawtv did you do it from shell? I ran it first from 
the menu and it did not open up correctly, but not what you are describing.

Try running it from a shell - I did that and it talked grin as it worked 
and told me what it found on my system. I finally figured out from what it 
said that I had to do this to start it here:

xawtv -device /dev/video0

and it ran fine. Lemme know what happens! :-)

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Re: [expert] Xawtv problem

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 7:49 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 September 2003 11:27 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  My Philips webcam works perfectly under Camstream.  In xawtv all
  I get is a wide bright green stripe, with faint lines across it. 
  If I switch to full screen it is clear that there are four (iirc)
  ghost images of what the camera should be displaying.
 
  Does anyone know what's causing this and what I can do about it?
 
  Anne

 Anne, when you first ran Xawtv did you do it from shell? I ran it
 first from the menu and it did not open up correctly, but not what
 you are describing.

 Try running it from a shell - I did that and it talked grin as
 it worked and told me what it found on my system. I finally figured
 out from what it said that I had to do this to start it here:

 xawtv -device /dev/video0

 and it ran fine. Lemme know what happens! :-)

Hi Dark Lord.

This is xawtv-3.85, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.21-0.13mdk)
/dev/video0 [v4l]: no overlay support
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
config: invalid value for input: composite1
valid choices for input: Webcam
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=7): Invalid 
argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=3): Invalid 
argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=4): Invalid 
argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=5): Invalid 
argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=1): Invalid 
argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=13): Invalid 
argument
X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x2a0004b
  Serial number of failed request:  467
  Current serial number in output stream:  467

For some reason, also, the view window changes to grab.  Is that what 
you expect?  I've never seen this running, so I don't know what to 
expect, other than a webcam picture.

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Re: [expert] Updated kernel packages fix multiple vulnerabilities

2003-09-10 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Sep 10, 2003 at 09:07:07AM -0700, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote:

 Since i build my own kernels from www.kernels.org,
 patch them with openMosix, do i still need to apply
 Mandrake's kernel patch?

Only if you want to apply them all.

If you use the absolute latest 2.4 kernel, you should be ok.

 
 
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 Advisory
 
 
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 Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:074
 Date:   July 15th, 2003
 
 Affected versions:8.2, 9.0, Corporate Server 2.1,
   Multi Network Firewall 8.2
 

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Re: [expert] Xawtv problem

2003-09-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Hi Dark Lord.

 This is xawtv-3.85, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.21-0.13mdk)
 /dev/video0 [v4l]: no overlay support
 v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
 config: invalid value for input: composite1
 valid choices for input: Webcam
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=7): Invalid
 argument
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=3): Invalid
 argument
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=4): Invalid
 argument
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=5): Invalid
 argument
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=1): Invalid
 argument
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=13): Invalid
 argument
 X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
   Major opcode of failed request:  2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
   Resource id in failed request:  0x2a0004b
   Serial number of failed request:  467
   Current serial number in output stream:  467

 For some reason, also, the view window changes to grab.  Is that what
 you expect?  I've never seen this running, so I don't know what to
 expect, other than a webcam picture.

 Anne

Hmm, that was running it; xawtv -device /dev/video0?

Here's what mine looks like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ xawtv -device /dev/video0
This is xawtv-3.85, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.21-0.13mdk)
/dev/video0 [v4l]: no overlay support
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=7): Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOCSYNC(int=0): Interrupted system call
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=3): Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=4): Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=5): Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=1): Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=13): Invalid 
argument 

and I stopped it with a control c.

But it was working fine, picture and all.

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Re: SCSI card not recognised by MD9.1 - ??similar to [expert] Re: SCSI, Scanner... How?

2003-09-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 08:18 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
 Hi,

 First time subscriber, please excuse if this is all repetition.
 I've had no success in solving this problem on the newbie list--

 My disk drives are PCI/IDE/ etc.but I have an old useful 35mm film
 scanner CanoScan 2700FS that runs off a SCSI Adaptec Host Adapter card.

Don't know which Adaptec card you have, but here is what some of my stuff 
looks like:

/etc/modules:
# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
#
# This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
# to be loaded at boot time, one per line.  Comments begin with
# a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.

nvidia
scsi_hostadapter
--
and /etc/modules/conf:
probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
alias scsi0 aic7xxx
(there's more in there of couse, I'm just showing the SCSI stuff)

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Re: [expert] Xawtv problem

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 8:13 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Hi Dark Lord.
 
  This is xawtv-3.85, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.21-0.13mdk)
  /dev/video0 [v4l]: no overlay support
  v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
  config: invalid value for input: composite1
  valid choices for input: Webcam
  ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=7):
  Invalid argument
  ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=3):
  Invalid argument
  ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=4):
  Invalid argument
  ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=5):
  Invalid argument
  ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=1):
  Invalid argument
  ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=13):
  Invalid argument
  X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
Major opcode of failed request:  2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
Resource id in failed request:  0x2a0004b
Serial number of failed request:  467
Current serial number in output stream:  467
 
  For some reason, also, the view window changes to grab.  Is that
  what you expect?  I've never seen this running, so I don't know
  what to expect, other than a webcam picture.
 
  Anne

 Hmm, that was running it; xawtv -device /dev/video0?

 Here's what mine looks like:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ xawtv -device /dev/video0
 This is xawtv-3.85, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.21-0.13mdk)
 /dev/video0 [v4l]: no overlay support
 v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=7):
 Invalid argument ioctl: VIDIOCSYNC(int=0): Interrupted system call
 ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=3):
 Invalid argument ioctl:
 VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=4): Invalid
 argument ioctl:
 VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=5): Invalid
 argument ioctl:
 VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=1): Invalid
 argument ioctl:
 VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=120;width=160;format=13): Invalid
 argument

 and I stopped it with a control c.

 But it was working fine, picture and all.

There was no picture on mine, just a dark green screen with a bright 
green top third.  Expanding it to full page shows that there are four 
ghost images, vertically compressed - and I know it is the camer 
pictures, because I can make it change by moving around.

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Re: SCSI card not recognised by MD9.1 - ??similar to [expert] Re: SCSI, Scanner... How?

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 1:18 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
 Hi,

 First time subscriber, please excuse if this is all repetition.
 I've had no success in solving this problem on the newbie list--

 My disk drives are PCI/IDE/ etc.but I have an old useful 35mm film
 scanner CanoScan 2700FS that runs off a SCSI Adaptec Host Adapter
 card.

 Under MD9.0, there was a query Do you have disk/scsi? when
 Upgrade-ing in Expert Mode, that allowed me to select the Adaptec
 Host Adapter aha152x, insert appropriate parameters, and the Canon
 scanner was recognised (I couldn't use it, due to lack of stable
 drivers, but that's another story). After that, the SCSI device was
 recognised automatically on boot-up.

 However under 9.1, Expert install doesn't recognise the SCSI card
 or provide any means of getting it incorporated manually, as far as
 I can see.
 Once the system is up,
 modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x140,..
 etc.on the CLI gets the SCSI card and scanner recognised and  MCC
 Scannerdrake gets the CanoScan onto the scanner database. But it's
 all lost when I power down - which I have to do frequently for some
 unavoidable dual-booting with Win$. It's a real PITA.:-(

 Is there something I'm missing during Expert install? Or is there
 some way of incorporating the modprobe, etc.into boot-up?


 I've tried modifications to /etc/modules.conf and modules with

 depmod -a, lilo.conf ansd running /sbin/lilo, putting stuff into
 /etc/rc.d/rc.local
 I googled linux Adaptec/AHA1520, problems and installation.
 Problems referred to kernel problems around 1998,Installation gave
 essentially the same information as the Mandrake Twiki SCSI entry,
 and got me unfortunately, no further forward.


 TIA

 DougB

Douglas, it's going back a bit, so my memory is hazy, but I seem to 
recall that the adaptec scsi card supplied with my FS2710 would not 
work with other scsi devices (this was under windows, of course).  I 
had to buy a new card before I could put a tape drive on, but both 
items worked fine from the Tekram card that I have in now.  I think 
it would be worth a google on that card model.

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[expert] Re: USB key drives and linux

2003-09-10 Thread Björn Lundin
Guy Van Sanden wrote:

 On my Mandrake 9.1 with KDE 3.1.3, it just popped up on the desktop as
 Harddisk (sda1) (unmounted)
 
It used to do that on KDE 3.1.2 for me too, but 
when I got KDE 3.1.3 (Texstar), it doesn't show anymore :( (on the desktop)

Any ideas?

(Well it's not that big problem, since I created a shortcut manually
and mount it from there, but I'm curious of what broke it)

/Björn


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[expert] Permissions don't stick

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
I need to change permissions of /dev/v4l.  As su I can chown, chgrp 
and chmod, the ls shows the new values.  If I log out and in again 
they are back to what they were before.  Why?  It can't be security, 
because I'm changing the owner to root.

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2 (sorry, length)

2003-09-10 Thread Charlie M.
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September 10, 2003 02:29 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  *** James Sparenberg Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:31:54 -0700 :
  I've had luck using gftp to restart a download that Moz had
  aborted. when I started the download if found the original and
  asked what I wanted to do with resume as the recommended option.

 Same here! You saved my day! Now I'm trying to kick my own butt
 because I already removed the other files. :(

 And of course I'll use Brant's advice to use rsync!

 This was a good learning experience how one gets careless by having
 more than sufficient ressources!

 wobo
Howdy;

Lowest possible bandwidth required methods for staying current.

For anyone having bandwidth limitation problems that wants to keep 
current, there are a few ways to do it. One is the easy way; use urpmi, 
make your software management sources using the Mandrake-devel tree 
from whatever server works best for you, and before anything else 
update urpmi. If there's an update you'll get it, then you can use 
Tom's;

urpmi.update -a -f --wget  urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm 
- --auto-select -v

to get everything at once. Of course this works best logged in at the 
console as super user with no X running. It's boring, but baby it's a 
hell of a lot faster, and less problematic, than trying to upgrade GUI 
apps while you're running them.

Alternatively if you have downloaded the ISOs for any recent Mandrake 
release _don't delete them once you've burned the disks._ When a new 
release is called all you have to do is rename the ISOs to the new 
release and rsync will take care of making them actual copies of what 
the servers hold.

This example was saved from my synchronization of Mandrake 9.0 ISOs 
renamed to 9.2 beta2. Disk 1 shown:

[...root]# rsync -avrt --progress --delete 
ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso 
/store/MandrakeISO/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso
 Welcome to the FTP archive at The University of Oslo
 

  This archive is running on a GNU/Linux PC with 1.7 TB of diskspace.

  Machine and diskspace provided by UiO.  Uninett provides the
  gigabit network connectivity.

  Please use the alias ftp.uninett.no instead of other, old, aliases
  or the hosts real DNS-name.

receiving file list ...
1 file to consider
/store/MandrakeISO/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso
   682575872 100%  146.86kB/s1:15:38
wrote 249968 bytes  read 620523546 bytes  135407.03 bytes/sec
total size is 682575872  speedup is 1.10

The important part is the line that displays how much was actually read 
and written. All bits in the image have to be read at both ends for 
comparison, but the actual transfer is just the difference between the 
two. No need to mount the ISOs loop-back either. Just do it. I'd say 
249,968 bytes is far preferable to the entire ISO image of 682,575,872 
bytes, wouldn't you? Thought so. :-)

Of course for anyone with tons of disk space (me) and/or a broadband 
connection (also me ;-) there are other alternatives. You can have a 
local copy of the Mandrake-devel tree and use a hard drive install 
image to make a boot floppy to upgrade or do a complete install. Or 
you can do the same with a network image and install directly from the 
mirror or any other server you can access that holds the files needed. 
If you don't want to use a floppy, or don't have one, you can make a 
bootable CD by following the instructions on the Cooker TWiki, or add 
them to lilo as boot options, same how-To source:

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo

and the link to the actual article:

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#From_a_Local_Mirror

There are links from there to other tutorials including, Greg Meyer's 
how-to on rsyncing ISOs.

I'm sure one of the gurus will come by and let you know whatever I 
screwed up in this post. I hope they will anyway, I'm still 2 days 
behind with stuff I'm *supposed* to be doing. lol

Have fun people. g

Regards;
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Re: [expert] Permissions don't stick

2003-09-10 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:10:44 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I need to change permissions of /dev/v4l.  As su I can chown, chgrp 
 and chmod, the ls shows the new values.  If I log out and in again 
 they are back to what they were before.  Why?  It can't be security, 
 because I'm changing the owner to root.

msec.

it doesn't *like* you to mess with file perms outside of your home dir,
mostly.

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html

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Re: [expert] Cyrus-imapd and postfix.....

2003-09-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
Ralph Crongeyer wrote:
Hi all does anyone have cyrus-imapd and postfix working together?

If you do could you help me get things going on my Mandrake 9.1 box.

I have cyrus and postfix installed but thing aren't working.

Did you read README.RPM in the cyrus-imapd doc directory?

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Re: [expert] Permissions don't stick

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 9:25 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:10:44 +0100

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  I need to change permissions of /dev/v4l.  As su I can chown,
  chgrp and chmod, the ls shows the new values.  If I log out and
  in again they are back to what they were before.  Why?  It can't
  be security, because I'm changing the owner to root.

 msec.

 it doesn't *like* you to mess with file perms outside of your home
 dir, mostly.

 http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html

But msec originally allowed me to change it to owner anne.  Why would 
it not let me put it back to root?  I have tried as user, but it 
wasn't allowed - fair enough.  As root the change was accepted - 
until I logged out and in again.  Then anne owned it again.

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Re: [expert] Moving /usr and /var

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

 Q: When I move /usr and /var to separate partitions, what is the proper
 line in fstab?
 
 I guess something like:
 
 /dev/hda7 /usr default 1 2
 
 which I inserted for my /home

/dev/hda7 /usr fstype default 1 2

You might want to mention the filesystem type in there. ;)

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RE: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread James D. Parra
Thank you for all of your responses. One question though, update the gt on
the host vnc machines or the clients? My vncviewer works well from my
Mandrake box to any non-Mandrake 9.1 vnc host.

Thanks again.

James


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:16 AM
To: Expert List
Subject: Re: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines


On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 10:03, James D. Parra wrote:
 Hello,
 
 When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1
machine,
 any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper
displaying
 and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with the MDK 9.1
 build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly appreciated.
 
 Many thanks in advance.
 
 James 

go here. 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/vncf
ix/

grab the rpms and update libqt... restart X (cntrl-alt-backspace) and
you should be good to go.  It's actually a conflict surrounding true
type fonts.  In theory the fonts get less clear when you do this.  But
danged if I can see it.  (Texstar claims he can.. I can't) 

James

 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Moving /usr and /var

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Bill Mullen Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:14:37 -0400 (EDT) :

  /dev/hda7 /usr default 1 2
  
  which I inserted for my /home
 
 /dev/hda7 /usr fstype default 1 2
 
 You might want to mention the filesystem type in there. ;)

Of course. I put it into fstab but forgot to mention it here! 
It wouldn't have worked with /home without that.
My question aimed more to the 'default 1 2' part.

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[expert] Runs as root but not as user

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
Could someone please look over this exchange from the GnomeMeeting 
list and tell me what the equivalent file is in Mandrake.  Or indeed, 
anything else that makes sense when you've read through.

Anne

On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 9:58 pm, Stefan Bruens wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003 22:03 schrieb Anne Wilson:
  On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 8:07 pm, PUYDT Julien wrote:
   Then no wonder the error message is the same: change the perms
   to a more sensible 660, and the owner to root:video, and that
   should work.
 
  OK - now it's
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]# ls -l /dev/v4l/
  total 0
  crw-rw1 root video 81,   0 Jan  1  1970 video0
 
 
  If I launch as root I have a picture.  If I launch as anne I
  still get the same message
 
  Later...
 
  I've just discovered that I can change owner, group and perms,
  and they list ok, but if I log out and back in they have
  reverted.  I must be missing something vital here, and perhaps
  that's what's causing the problems.

 This is done in accordance to /etc/logindevperm.

 As you said, the directory /dev/v4l belongs to root.video, check 
 that the _directory_ /dev/v4l is accessible by users belonging to
 group video, so this should be 750 for the directory and 660 for
 the device.

 Make shure to change /etc/logindevperm accordingly.

 Stefan

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[expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-10 Thread Molotov
Hello list

Sorry if I'm disturbing you with an already-solved problem. This is
about 3D acceleration support with mdk 9.1 and a GeForce 4 MX 440.

In fact, I wanted to try at first the Medal of Honor linux beta client,
and got an awfully slow rendering speed with missing textures. I then
remembered that after upgrading to 9.1 I never installed the Nvidia
drivers.
I tried it, but, damned !, it wasn't as easy... I did it succesfully
before with the kernel  glx modules, but with the new .run system I'm
lost.
I'm using 9.1, and I did not compile my own kernel. So my system should
be quite standard for Nvidia... I downloaded the latest .run archive
and ran it.
It doesn't work, and after trying different settings, the fact is that
starting X with the 'Driver nvidia' setting in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
leads me to some kind of kernel panic: CTRL-ALT-SUP not working, Verr
Num and Caps Lock keyboard leds not responding.
It's late, I'm tired and my english is as bad as my brain for now, but
any clue, advice or good direction would be very welcomed.
It may be a newbie question, sorry... I'm more experienced with
networking than in X configuration ;-)

Regards, anybody

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Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-10 Thread Charlie M.
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September 10, 2003 03:49 pm, Molotov wrote:
 Hello list

 Sorry if I'm disturbing you with an already-solved problem. This is
 about 3D acceleration support with mdk 9.1 and a GeForce 4 MX 440.

 In fact, I wanted to try at first the Medal of Honor linux beta
 client, and got an awfully slow rendering speed with missing
 textures. I then remembered that after upgrading to 9.1 I never
 installed the Nvidia drivers.
 I tried it, but, damned !, it wasn't as easy... I did it succesfully
 before with the kernel  glx modules, but with the new .run system
 I'm lost.
 I'm using 9.1, and I did not compile my own kernel. So my system
 should be quite standard for Nvidia... I downloaded the latest .run
 archive and ran it.
 It doesn't work, and after trying different settings, the fact is
 that starting X with the 'Driver nvidia' setting in
 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 leads me to some kind of kernel panic:
 CTRL-ALT-SUP not working, Verr Num and Caps Lock keyboard leds not
 responding.
 It's late, I'm tired and my english is as bad as my brain for now,
 but any clue, advice or good direction would be very welcomed.
 It may be a newbie question, sorry... I'm more experienced with
 networking than in X configuration ;-)

 Regards, anybody

 François

If you ran the NVidia installer while running X you'll have trouble. If 
you ran it as user you'll have trouble. If you install a new kernel 
after running it you have to run it against the running (new usually) 
kernel for it to actually work.

The last time I had to help someone with this was a system I assembled 
for a friend. Dual AMD MP 2000+, 1024 MB DDR-RAM and an MSI G-Force 4 
MX 440 128 MB graphics card. The NVidia installer complained about 
finding no kernel module or some such, I allowed it to build one. 
Edited the XF86config4 file to use the nvidia drivers instead of the 
default nv and it was good to go.

There's one little gotcha in all of the above though. You have to 
install the kernel source for the kernel you're running *first!* That 
should take care of that. Whenever you upgrade the kernel install the 
source for the new one, boot the new kernel in run-level 3  (console) 
and run the NVidia run file again. You can then edit lilo to start in 
graphical mode again.

It should always work that way.

HTH
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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 03:34 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  *** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 :
 
  I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both
  connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :(
  
  Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and
  it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found
  out how I can resume a download with Mozilla.
 
 Now I'm really lost!
 The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed
 out and showed:
 
 
 MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49  177,21  Could not read
 reply from control connection -- timed out
 get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file.
 
 
 The same output I received from the servers last night.
 This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both
 with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition.
 Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems
 with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3
 downloads at the same time using ncftp.
 
 Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed
 out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download
 I give up.
 
 Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and
 can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for
 other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until
 October... :((

You can fix the iso's with rsynch without downloading all of them again.  
Instructions here:

http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html
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Re: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 01:08 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 September 2003 01:03 pm, James D. Parra wrote:
  Hello,
 
  When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1
  machine, any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper
  displaying and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with
  the MDK 9.1 build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly
  appreciated.
 
 I suspect that this is the infamous anti-aliased fonts compiled into the 
 qtlibraries bug.  Suffered from this one myself.  If you go to the Texstar 
 repository off of http://pclinuxonline.com site, you should be able to 
 download a fix for this issue which will remove the AA fonts from the qt 
 libraries and enable tightvnc to work.
 
 If you have problems, let me know and I will send a direct link to the 
source 
 repository for those rpm's.
 
There is also an official Mandrake update for this now available from any of 
the update mirrors.
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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Greg Meyer Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:18:31 -0400 :

 You can fix the iso's with rsynch without downloading all of them
 again.  Instructions here:
 
 http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html

Thanks, but I found a nice person who will send the CDs tomorrow. But
I'll keep all good advices of this thread for future reference, thank
you.

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Re: [expert] Re: USB key drives and linux

2003-09-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:02, Björn Lundin wrote:
 Guy Van Sanden wrote:
 
  On my Mandrake 9.1 with KDE 3.1.3, it just popped up on the desktop as
  Harddisk (sda1) (unmounted)
  
 It used to do that on KDE 3.1.2 for me too, but 
 when I got KDE 3.1.3 (Texstar), it doesn't show anymore :( (on the desktop)
 
 Any ideas?
 
 (Well it's not that big problem, since I created a shortcut manually
 and mount it from there, but I'm curious of what broke it)
 
 /Björn

Björn

  Try in the kcontrol program LookNFeel-Behavior-Devices  and see if
that is checked and if this kind of device is checked to run.  It's
possible that texstars system has different defaults than MDK's

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Re: [expert] Permissions don't stick

2003-09-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 9:25 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:10:44 +0100
 
  Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   I need to change permissions of /dev/v4l.  As su I can chown,
   chgrp and chmod, the ls shows the new values.  If I log out and
   in again they are back to what they were before.  Why?  It can't
   be security, because I'm changing the owner to root.
 
  msec.
 
  it doesn't *like* you to mess with file perms outside of your home
  dir, mostly.
 
  http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html
 
 But msec originally allowed me to change it to owner anne.  Why would 
 it not let me put it back to root?  I have tried as user, but it 
 wasn't allowed - fair enough.  As root the change was accepted - 
 until I logged out and in again.  Then anne owned it again.
 
 Anne

Reason number 43 of why I just love msec *grin*. but it could very
well be the problem.  It's helping you.

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RE: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 14:16, James D. Parra wrote:
 Thank you for all of your responses. One question though, update the gt on
 the host vnc machines or the clients? My vncviewer works well from my
 Mandrake box to any non-Mandrake 9.1 vnc host.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 James

On the 9.1 box.  It's by default got render as compiled in, and VNC
doesn't handle that one well.

James

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:16 AM
 To: Expert List
 Subject: Re: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines
 
 
 On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 10:03, James D. Parra wrote:
  Hello,
  
  When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1
 machine,
  any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper
 displaying
  and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with the MDK 9.1
  build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly appreciated.
  
  Many thanks in advance.
  
  James 
 
 go here. 
 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/vncf
 ix/
 
 grab the rpms and update libqt... restart X (cntrl-alt-backspace) and
 you should be good to go.  It's actually a conflict surrounding true
 type fonts.  In theory the fonts get less clear when you do this.  But
 danged if I can see it.  (Texstar claims he can.. I can't) 
 
 James
 
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-10 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

Lots of info, yet no answer.  So are you new or not? ;-)
   

Define new.

Please re-read my previous email.  It's obvious that you are not new to 
Linux or to Mandrake. :-)

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Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2

2003-09-10 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Wednesday 10 September 2003 09:55, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

You need to get familiar with rsync.  Navigate to the directory with
the partial downloads and run this from the command line:
rsync -Pv --stats --progress
ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD*
 

This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes out.  
Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file names
and run the same command.  It should only download the differences
between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a fraction of the
time.  I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it will actually
give you so you may want to keep an eye on it.

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Brant,
I can see how this would work for directories but are you saying that rsync 
would actually go into the iso files to match them and then partially 
download?

That's exactly what I'm saying.  :-)

I'd think you'd need to mount them with -o loop first (and mounting the local 
one rw).

Alas I don't have the bandwidth left to check that and it's only the first 
half of the month.

If you tried it you would know whether or not it's working in a few 
seconds.  If it's not working just hit Ctrl+c to kill it.

Good luck,
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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-10 Thread Rolf Pedersen
lorne wrote:
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 09:46 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

lorne wrote:

On Monday 08 September 2003 08:03 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

lorne wrote:

I know that previous version of Mandrake did have an editor. Darned if I
can find one now. I have some wave and mp3 files I want to burn to CDrom
and some of them have a VERY annoying screech at the beginning I want to
clip off. you'd think this easy to find... am I just having a brain
fart?
I don't have much experience with this but you might want to take a look
at hackaudacity in 9.1/contrib/.  There was some bug in audacity that
made hackaudacity a better choice, at the time I looked at it.  Here is
the qip:
Audacity is a program that lets you manipulate digital audio waveforms.

In addition to letting you record sounds directly from within the
program, it imports many sound file formats, including WAV, AIFF, MP3
and Ogg/Vorbis. It supports all common editing operations such as Cut,
Copy, and Paste, plus it will mix tracks and let you apply plug-in
effects to any part of a sound. It also has a built-in amplitude
envelope editor, a customizable spectrogram mode and a frequency
analysis window for audio analysis applications.
Rolf
hey Rolf,

The ONLY place I'm seeing that file is in mandrakes contrib? Is that
true, or is there another site you know where it is? My guess is that I'm
going to have the same problem with any. Audacity and another one (I
forget the name right now) are having trouble with sound. The preferences
pull down shows no devices at all and no way to add one that I can see.
Since I run sound constantly I know I'm having now problems with it. I'm
a little perplexed. about what could be wrong.
I am not sure if you installed audacity or hackaudacity.  They are both
in contrib/:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2]$ urpmq --sources audacity
file://back/contrib/audacity-1.0.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2]$ urpmq --sources hackaudacity
file://back/contrib/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm
If you are having trouble with audacity, you might urpme that and urpmi
hackaudacity, or vice versa.  I think I tried audacity first, which
didn't work for me, then, since, like I said, I had read about a bug in
audacity, I tried hackaudacity, which got rolling and let me play with
some editing.  I didn't use it extensively, however, and don't remember
what version I was using.  Try hackaudacity.  The two packages have
conflicting files, so uninstall audacity first.  Sorry I don't know more
than that about it.


What I'm trying to say is that I get no package named hackaudacity. It isn't 
in most contrib sites. It must ONLY be at mandrake. ??


Oh, sorry.  That's weird.  I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I 
looked at.  What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker 
contrib/ mirror which should have been the same as the release.  Maybe 
something has changed.  If you want, I put a copy here: 
http://home.mindspring.com/~rolfpedersen/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm


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Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-10 Thread J.C. Woods
Charlie M. wrote:

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September 10, 2003 03:49 pm, Molotov wrote:
 

Hello list

Sorry if I'm disturbing you with an already-solved problem. This is
about 3D acceleration support with mdk 9.1 and a GeForce 4 MX 440.
François
   

If you ran the NVidia installer while running X you'll have trouble. If 
you ran it as user you'll have trouble. If you install a new kernel 
after running it you have to run it against the running (new usually) 
kernel for it to actually work.

The last time I had to help someone with this was a system I assembled 
for a friend. Dual AMD MP 2000+, 1024 MB DDR-RAM and an MSI G-Force 4 
MX 440 128 MB graphics card. The NVidia installer complained about 
finding no kernel module or some such, I allowed it to build one. 
Edited the XF86config4 file to use the nvidia drivers instead of the 
default nv and it was good to go.

There's one little gotcha in all of the above though. You have to 
install the kernel source for the kernel you're running *first!* That 
should take care of that. Whenever you upgrade the kernel install the 
source for the new one, boot the new kernel in run-level 3  (console) 
and run the NVidia run file again. You can then edit lilo to start in 
graphical mode again.

It should always work that way.

HTH
Charlie
 

To the original poster, François, and to Charlie. There is a lot of 
confusion about using the Geforce4 MX 440 in Mandrake or, for that 
mattter, any other Liunx OS using the 2.4.x kernel. I have posted about 
this issue more than once but here it goes again. If your Geforce4 MX 
440, or any other video board, i.e. Radeon, is using AGP 8X then you 
are  using AGP  3.0, and are no longer using AGP 2.0. AGP 3.0  is *NOT*  
supported in any 2.4.x kernel that I know of. There are some patches out 
there but most of these are made to support 8X Radeon cards (and are 
buggy at best). I have the Geforce4 MX 440 8X, and I was able to compile 
the Nvidia drivers, and I did get them to load but AGPGART would not 
work for the reasons outlined above. I had graphics but color rendering 
was for shit. It seems the only solution to 8X AGP 3.0 support is to 
wait for kernel 2.5. (at least, I hear it will support this newer AGP 
version). The pivotal point is are you trying to load modules for 8X AGP 
3.0?

Does anyone know the final kernel version in LMDK9.2? Now does the 
foregoing elucidate or obfuscate this issue even more?

drjung

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Re: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 09:16 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 14:16, James D. Parra wrote:
  Thank you for all of your responses. One question though, update the gt on
  the host vnc machines or the clients? My vncviewer works well from my
  Mandrake box to any non-Mandrake 9.1 vnc host.
  
  Thanks again.
  
  James
 
 On the 9.1 box.  It's by default got render as compiled in, and VNC
 doesn't handle that one well.
 
It's actually qt that is crashing, and it will happen on any display that does 
not support the render extension, including vnc, XFree86 3.3.6, XForbserver, 
etc.  libqt must be updated on the host machine.
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[expert] Adding a header to KMail

2003-09-10 Thread deedee
I'd like to add an Approved:  header to messages approving bounced 
posts to a mailing list that is managed with Majordomo.

Is that possible with KMail? Anyone know how to do it?

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] Permissions don't stick

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

 On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 9:25 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:10:44 +0100 Anne Wilson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   I need to change permissions of /dev/v4l.  As su I can chown, chgrp
   and chmod, the ls shows the new values.  If I log out and in again
   they are back to what they were before.  Why?  It can't be security,
   because I'm changing the owner to root.
 
  msec.
 
  it doesn't *like* you to mess with file perms outside of your home
  dir, mostly.
 
  http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html
 
 But msec originally allowed me to change it to owner anne.  Why would it
 not let me put it back to root?  I have tried as user, but it wasn't
 allowed - fair enough.  As root the change was accepted - until I logged
 out and in again.  Then anne owned it again.

Two comments:

1) The problem most people have with msec and permissions isn't that it
somehow doesn't allow them to make a change, but that when the msec cron
job runs later, it detects whatever change was made (by comparing current
permissions on the files/dirs that come under its purview to the values it
expects to find), and corrects any differences it uncovers; this is why
those changes don't appear to stick. But that isn't what's going on in 
this case, anyway, AFAICT.

2) What govern the permissions changes at login for such devices are the
relevant entries within the /etc/security/console.perms file. This file
controls the temporary resetting of ownership and permissions on various
devices to the UID of the logged-in user, and also the settings they will
revert to when that user logs out.

The format of the file is explained in the comments at the top of the file 
itself, and further info is in the console.perms man page. I would think 
that to prevent the switch of the v4l device's ownership to that of the 
user, you would want to comment out this line near the bottom:

console  0600 v4l0600 root.sys

Your line may differ, as this is from my 9.0 system. Reboot, and hopefully 
then the device will stay owned by root, even after you log in as anne.

HTH!

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Re: [expert] Moving /usr and /var

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

  *** Bill Mullen Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:14:37 -0400 (EDT) :
 
   /dev/hda7 /usr default 1 2
   
   which I inserted for my /home
  
  /dev/hda7 /usr fstype default 1 2
  
  You might want to mention the filesystem type in there. ;)
 
 Of course. I put it into fstab but forgot to mention it here! 
 It wouldn't have worked with /home without that.
 My question aimed more to the 'default 1 2' part.

Looks fine to me; if it's reiserfs, you might want 'notail 1 2' instead.

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote:
 Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for MDK 9.1 or is it still
 unstable ?
 In case of yes, which is the most stable source : TexStar or the Mdk
 Club ?
 
I am using Texstar's packages and they work great.  Unfortunately, I think the 
qa on them is better than those packages available from Club.
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Re: [expert] removing boot themes

2003-09-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 08 September 2003 04:42 pm, James D. Parra wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Running Mandrake 9.1 and I would like to remove the boot up themes. How can
 this be done?  From the Mandrake control panel applet, I uncheck the use
 themes check box, but this doesn't work.
 
Just remove the bootsplash package

urpme bootsplash
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Re: [expert] I need to update my mandrake box but my connection is expensive and pretty slow. What can i do ?

2003-09-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 08 September 2003 09:32 pm, Luis Duran wrote:
 Hello fellas, i would like to update all my packages of Mandrake, one
 week ago i tried to do it but the files size are quiet long, i have a
 dial-up connection that is expensive and way slow. I got this idea, take
 my computer to a cyber cafe but that people didn't not like the idea. i
 have this question, Has Mandrake an iso image with all the updates that
 i could download from a cyber cafe without taking my computer there ?
 
 i will appreciate if you let me know about this.
 
 Best regards and thanks you
 
If you can burn cd's at the cafe, you will want to download the entire updates 
directory for your version.  If you are on 9.1, look at 
mandrake/updates/9.1/i586/RPMS and you will see a slew of update RPMS and a 
file called synthesis.hdlist.cz.  That file will allow you to setup your cd 
as a urpmi source.  Burn that whole directory to cd.

Once you get the cd, do something like

urpmi.addmedia updates file://mnt/cdrom with synthesis.hdlist.cz

and then 

urpmi --auto-select 

and all packages that need updating should be done for you automatically.

Hope this helps.
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[expert] Trish's further adventures with sound

2003-09-10 Thread Patricia Fraser
Hi all,

Now that I've got alsa working with my CD, I've gone off to search ways to get 
MIDI working. I have a sneaking fondness for playmidi and have quite a 
collection of MIDI files; I'd hate to have to give 'em up!

Alas! although I've progressed past utter silence and incomprehension from 
various apps, I've managed to lock the computer up *hard*, twice!

/dev/sound has a couple of likely-looking devices: midi1 and dmmidi1, and 
sequencer and sequencer1. these are linked to by the standard devices. 
However, if I use either midi1 or sequencer as the output device, I get 
lockup. I haven't dared try the others yet!

lsmod shows in the relevant part:

snd-seq-midi5024   0  (autoclean) (unused)
snd-seq-oss31104   0  (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event  5640   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq42608   2  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss 
snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-mpu401  1984   0
snd-pcm-oss43556   0
snd-mixer-oss  14488   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-via82xx14092   0
snd-ac97-codec 40160   0  [snd-via82xx]
snd-pcm77536   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-via82xx]
snd-timer  18376   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart 4396   0  [snd-mpu401 snd-via82xx]
snd-rawmidi17600   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device  5832   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq 
snd-rawmidi]
snd-page-alloc  7732   0  [snd-via82xx snd-pcm]
snd40868   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event 
snd-seq snd-mpu4ss snd-mixer-oss snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer 
snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore   6276   0  [snd]

and, based on stuff I found on the alsa wiki, /etc/modules.conf reads:

probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci ehci-hcd
above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss
alias eth0 8139too
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx

alias snd-card-1 snd-mpu401
options snd-card-1 port=0x330 irq=7

alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-1-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-1-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

So: does anyone have any ideas of things I could try? Have I maybe loaded too 
many things? Other than this, alsa is working jest *fine*.

8-)

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-10 Thread lorne
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:05 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

  What I'm trying to say is that I get no package named hackaudacity. It
  isn't in most contrib sites. It must ONLY be at mandrake. ??

 Oh, sorry.  That's weird.  I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I
 looked at.  What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker
 contrib/ mirror which should have been the same as the release.  Maybe
 something has changed.  If you want, I put a copy here:
 http://home.mindspring.com/~rolfpedersen/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm

Thanks man. I appreciate it. Man it is s easy to get into dependencies 
hell! I do rpm -ivh hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm and get:
error: failed dependencies:
libwx_gtk-2.3.so.1   is needed by hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk

No problem, let's go find it. It is in a file called wxGTK-2.3.2-11.i386.rpm, 
so I think, well why not. I get:

error: failed dependencies:
OpenGL is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11
iconv is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11
wxwin-afm = 2.3.2 is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11
wxwin-common = 2.3.2 is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11

ARRG!!! hahahaha... I guess what I should do is concentrate on  finding 
out why on earth two of the two editors I have installed refuse to recognize 
my /dev/dsp. ??? It makes no sense. ALL of the other numerous programs play 
audio with no problems at all. 

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-10 Thread David E. Fox
 Oh, sorry.  That's weird.  I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I 
 looked at.  What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker 

I concur - audacity is good for mp3/wav editing - provided you have
enough spare disk space. If you don't, don't try to save the project as
a project file in your home directory. I use /tmp for most everything 
for that, since I don't have a lot of room left in /home and /tmp has 
several gigs available (editing roughly an hour's length of wav file 
will need close to 2.1 gigs of space).

But what's 'hackaudacity'?

 

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Re: [expert] I need to update my mandrake box but my connection is expensive and pretty slow. What can i do ?

2003-09-10 Thread Luis Duran
Voy a tratar de bajarlo desde un cyber. Muchas gracias Richard

saludos por alla tambien.

Luis Duran


On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:14, Richard wrote:
 On Tue September 9 2003 11:03 pm, Luis Duran wrote:
  Hi Kevin,
 
  Thanks for answer. When i went to faster cybers here in my town
  (Acarigua, Venezuela) with my computer tenders get crazy and said
  that they can not receive customers property inside their local, i
  void to argue for hours with 'em. But i am interesting in know: How
  can i download all updates packages for Linux Mandrake 9 version, i
  never have updated my system and i would like it. What URL (ftp or
  http) can i go ?
 
 Hello Luis,
 
 ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake/updates
 has worked well for me from Cd.Ojeda. 
 Look for your version and download all to burn to a CD.  
 
 saludos,
 Richard.
 
 
  Thanks in advance and Best regards
 
  Luis Duran
 
  On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 06:07, KevinO wrote:
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Hello fellas, i would like to update all my packages of Mandrake,
one week ago i tried to do it but the files size are quiet long,
i have a dial-up connection that is expensive and way slow. I got
this idea, take my computer to a cyber cafe but that people
didn't not like the idea. i have this question, Has Mandrake an
iso image with all the updates that i could download from a cyber
cafe without taking my computer there ?
   
i will appreciate if you let me know about this.
  
   I use to haul my laptop down to the local, wired, micro-brewery and
   download the updates directory from a server to take home, and then
   run updates on the laptop. People are always hauling boxes and
   monitors into this place. The local Linux Users group meets there
   once a month.
  
   If you need to do more than just update the box you are dragging up
   there, set up a mirror and a small ftp server on your laptop (or
   box), use rsync to update the mirror on the laptop each time you
   hook-in. Then the laptop can be the updates source for itself and
   any other boxes at home on your LAN. The rsync goes pretty fast
   once you have the files all copied over the first time.
  
   What is the policy of the cyber-cafe? I used one in London that
   always charged me a little extra because I used my laptop, instead
   of using one of their windows boxes. How would your's react to you
   taking your machine in?
  
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Re: [expert] Permissions don't stick

2003-09-10 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:33:01 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 But msec originally allowed me to change it to owner anne.  Why would 
 it not let me put it back to root?  I have tried as user, but it 
 wasn't allowed - fair enough.  As root the change was accepted - 
 until I logged out and in again.  Then anne owned it again.

You can override msec in /etc/security/msec/perm.local, and all will be
well.

As an example, I have this in mine:

/home/mp3/  root.users  777

Interesting question, tho. I guess it just likes Anne better than Root,
I know I do. ;-)

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Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-10 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003 18:40 schrieb diego:
 I'd bet it's not using DMA

 With IDE drives: man hddparm
 would tell you the command, but no idea about how to get it when at scsi
 emulation :-((

It's the same. There are still the ide device names. So you can chenage de DMA 
via hdparm.

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Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-10 Thread Charlie M.
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September 10, 2003 08:24 pm, J.C. Woods wrote:


 To the original poster, François, and to Charlie. There is a lot of
 confusion about using the Geforce4 MX 440 in Mandrake or, for that
 mattter, any other Liunx OS using the 2.4.x kernel. I have posted
 about this issue more than once but here it goes again. If your
 Geforce4 MX 440, or any other video board, i.e. Radeon, is using AGP
 8X then you are  using AGP  3.0, and are no longer using AGP 2.0. AGP
 3.0  is *NOT* supported in any 2.4.x kernel that I know of. There are
 some patches out there but most of these are made to support 8X
 Radeon cards (and are buggy at best). I have the Geforce4 MX 440 8X,
 and I was able to compile the Nvidia drivers, and I did get them to
 load but AGPGART would not work for the reasons outlined above. I had
 graphics but color rendering was for shit. It seems the only solution
 to 8X AGP 3.0 support is to wait for kernel 2.5. (at least, I hear it
 will support this newer AGP version). The pivotal point is are you
 trying to load modules for 8X AGP 3.0?

 Does anyone know the final kernel version in LMDK9.2? Now does the
 foregoing elucidate or obfuscate this issue even more?

 drjung

Hiya Doc;

I know what you're saying but the point was moot for the guy I put the 
system together for, and for me. He just wanted clear, he's not much of 
a gamer so anything more than clear graphics was a side issue. The only 
reason the box actually has the card in it that it does was simple 
economics. A regular budget card was, at the time I picked up the 
components for his new toy, less than $7 cheaper. Some kind of a 
promotional 'special offer' a local retailer was running, $87 (prices 
are Canadian, which has no relationship to real money) for the MSI he 
has versus $81 for the next least expensive.

I appreciate the explanation and the information but for me; and for the 
friend I built the box for, the latest super frame rate hot-rod video 
card, 8X AGP or not, or hypertrophied discombobulated whizzbang 
whats-its, were less important than the system's performance overall. 
Colour was fine, graphics are clear. It wasn't, and isn't, even trying 
to run at AGP 8X, the board it's on doesn't even support that to the 
best of my knowledge, so the card defaults to legacy mode. AGP 2 I 
mean. I've assembled three very similar systems for different people 
using almost identical components, and nobody has complained at all. 
That's all I care about.

My 18 year old son and his Radeon 9700 Pro on an NVidia2 chipset 
motherboard on the other hand.g

The kernel for 9.2 will be a version of the 2.4.22 series. The latest is 
shown in my signature. 

The 2.6 is available in contribs already, and the one I'm looking at 
right now is 2.6.0-0test.4.4mdk. The latest I suppose. I'll be 
installing it in a bit so I'll have a better idea what it's like.

Best Regards;
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Re: [expert] Moving /usr and /var

2003-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Bill Mullen Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:12:01 -0400 (EDT) :

 Looks fine to me; if it's reiserfs, you might want 'notail 1 2'
 instead.

No, it's ext3 

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