Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:04 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: --- Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur help...thnx much for quick response This is dead simple and works well. Altho Pascal seems to indicate it can be done as user. For me that wouldn't work, but as root 'mkrescue --iso' created a bootable image named rescue.iso (3.2 mb)in the directory I ran the command from. I burned it with 'biso rescue.iso' (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -dao') tom # rpm -q --whatprovides /sbin/mkrescue lilo-22.5.7.2-6mdk Besides being a boot CD for your currently running kernel, it also provides some rescue options when you boot from it (similar to booting the 1st Mandrake CD). ... create a Boot Disk From: Pascal Cavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [snoyes] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le Dimanche 9 Novembre 2003 17:51, [snoyes] a écrit : For those interested, you can make an iso image of a boot disk if you are using LILO with the following command: /sbin/mkrescue --iso then just cdrecord it ... -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? No and no. What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. Asus A7V600 (KT600, VIA 8237 chipset). The sound chip on the motherboard is from Analog Devices, Inc., AD-1980, AC97 codec, and Mandrake assigns the snd-via82xx alsa driver to it. This works very well for everything but aRts, which is sometimes a little 'scratchy' for system notification sounds (which I don't use anyhow). append= mem=nopentium devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht I have a Asus GeF4, but use the XFree86 'nv' driver, so I don't really need 'mem=nopentium' in the append. Chas A Edwards just finally convinced me it can't hurt ;) I don't really need to disable ACPI, but since I don't use it, and Mandrake always adds acpi=ht, I leave it in too. Same append I've used for a long time, many kernels. I'll probly try 2.4.23-1mdk that is on the mirrors today. FWIW, the onboard NIC is a 3C-940, and I read so many bad reports, problems with the drivers that are used for it (3c2000, sk98lin) I just disabled it in bios an use an old D-Link NIC I had (8139too). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:31 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 06:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Or use the Enterprise kernel. Most reports are that the system will preform better with the regular kernel, and passing 'mem=860M' (or 880M) than using = 1 gig or ram and the enterprise kernel. The 'bigmem' memory addressing scheme the enterprise kernels use imposes a performance hit. This has been mentioned off and on on the cooker and lkml lists. It's also been my experience. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Thinking of switching to Mandrake
On Friday 14 November 2003 03:24 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Tips for using kmail - Set up two profiles - it doesn't matter that they are using the same mailbox and smtp - one with reply-to set if you need it for other purposes, and one without for the list (together with suitable sig if you wish. Create a folder to receive list traffic. Then use Settings Configure Filters to send all mail there. Right click on the new folder, select Properties, and you can associate the folder with the mailing list, and also set it to use the profile you have created whenever you send while in that foler. HTH Anne -- The new Kmail, 1.6, KDE 3.2 (beta at this point), the default action is to reply to sender (the OP), even when 'Reply-to' is unset. The only work around I've found is Settings | Configure Toolbars, and add the Reply to Mailing-List button to the toolbar. Should work in older versions also, with no need for separate folders. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi questions
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
download?
urpmq --list will give you a list of all available
packages, without versions. urpmq --fuzzy samba will give you
all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.
You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc'). Then after you
update your sources, simply typing 'urpmc' will list all the
available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
tom # urpmc
club uses a synthesis file. Cannot output changelog.
Will list package names only. Reconfigure the medium to use
a hdlist file to get a changelog.
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk - kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk
Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have
kernel-source in my skiplist). Suggestion, use
'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will
also include changelog, and could be very long. I get Cannot
output changelog. because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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Re: [expert] Re: MDK 9.2 ISOs Released (was:Public downloadable 9.2 ISO's for non club members)
On Friday 14 November 2003 08:44 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 01:41 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: Actually MDK 9.2 has been available on the public ftp servers since 2003-10-13, (same time the club members got the isos) but only as a ftp tree... But now that's changed too... Last night the 9.2 ISO's appeared on the master mirrors, so they should start showing up on the mirrors around the world... Regards Thomas Thomas: Thanks for clearing this up. -- cmg Comparing md5sums, they are the same torrent iso's formerly available to Club members. IOW's they are _not_ LG friendly. I d/l'd '9.2-download.md5sums.asc' from the /iso mirror and they match my Club torrent iso's, 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 Mandrake92-cd1-inst.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e Mandrake92-cd2-ext.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 Mandrake92-cd3-i18n.i586.iso -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 09:43 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric Google 'acpi=ht', that'll explain it better than I can. I searched it when Mandrake started usin it instead of =off. Basically it still disables acpi, but allows for cpu enumeration. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Where can I get mandrake precompiled kernels .config files?
On Friday 31 October 2003 08:25 am, Oscar Retana wrote: Hi. Thank you Robert for your answer. I need to apply a patch to the kernel. I don't want to use my own configuration. Instead, I want to use the mandrake kernel configuraion (as it is shipped in the CDs), apply the patch, and compile it. rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm cd /usr/src/linux ..edit Makefile and change the EXTRAVERSION to you liking, further down in this file uncomment #export INSTALL_PATH=/boot cp .config conf-save make mrproper (this step is _mandatory_) cp conf-save .config At this point you can apply your patch, and then go on compiling the new kernel. A last step of make install will install the kernel in /boot and make the needed links, and add the kernel to lilo for you if you uncommented #export INSTALL_PATH=/boot So, I was not sure if the .config file the kernel-source rpm includes is the oficial configuration mandrake uses Yes it is. If you've already installed Mandrake's precompiled version of the kernel, then /boot/config-2.4.22-21mdk can also be used, ie, cp /boot/config-2.4.22-21mdk /usr/src/linux/.config -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.1 to MDK9.2 Update Issues - Hope that this is not a Final ISO!
On Thursday October 16 2003 09:44 pm, Albert Whale wrote: I noticed that my Terminals all disappeared from the KDE Environment after the update. Is this an expected Feature? Yes. KDE packages have been split up to make them more manageable. You just need to 'urpmi kdebase-konsole' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Thursday October 16 2003 01:03 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: www.phatlinux.com runs linux on a windoze partition, even on windoze XP/NTFS. Catch? It aint freee.nominal fee however. That was my first look at Mandrake (6.0). Then phatlinux was free. IIRC a 170mb zip file, expanded to about 500mb in a Windoze fat32 directory, C:\Mandrake. I was dual bootin Red Hat and Winblows at the time. I played around with phat for a short time, liked KDE, so I got 'real' Mandrake CD's and replaced RH ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2
On Thursday October 9 2003 08:30 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: urpmi --auto-auto select --force why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms. urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v The no verify part get around the signature deal. I prefer wget as it retries better than curl. Unless you're positive the mirror you're usin is absolutely in order and up to date, --force could be a disaster. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] source of rpm contrib
On Thursday October 9 2003 05:19 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Are you sure about this? I remember something about NOT using urpmi for the kernel. But maybe that's an old rule and outdated or even an urban legend... :) wobo From 9.1 forward (by direct testing) urpmi kernel actually is the way you want to do it. URPMI now knows the difference between this and the other products and handles it very well. James look in /etc/urpmi/inst.list # Here you can specify packages that need to be installed instead # of being upgraded (typically kernel packages). kernel kernel-smp kernel-secure kernel-enterprise kernel-linus2.2 kernel-linus2.4 kernel22 kernel22-secure kernel22-smp hackkernel So kernel's are installed (rpm -ivh), not upgraded (-Uvh). Works equally as well for all kernels, ie, gives you choices of current kernels, and then 'urpmi kernel-source' will get the appropriate source and upgrade it too. No problemo (anymore, it's been so for quite a while) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Friday September 19 2003 01:03 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Which brings us back again to the question as to whether downloads should be available as quickly as they are at present. Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. Anne Careful here... I suggested that around the time of 9.1's pending release and got blasted heavily. *grin* James Since Mandrake is heavily dependant on the community for development, software contributions and patches, testing and bug reports, makin the distro unavailable for d/l till after release would be impossible. Install RC2 now, update to current cooker, and by Monday you'll have 9.2 final. The same is possible by adding cooker sources to 9.1 an updating to current 9.2. Whether the iso's (or bittorrent) are available or not. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: SOYO + AMD XP2500: new mobo (3)
On Tuesday September 16 2003 09:16 am, Philip Webb wrote: a 3rd night of testing (generally) success! i still don't know what the FSB is auto'ly being set to, but the mobo is recognising the CPU correctly as a 2500+ setting the CPU frequency at 1833 MHz . What does this say? tom # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 10 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ stepping: 0 cpu MHz : 2301.434 Default for this processor is 13x166.66 (multiplier x FSB), or 2167. 2301 results from 13x177. You should be able to tell what multiplier and FSB you're currently set to in bios. Otherwise, use the result of cat /proc/cpuinfo and a calculator to figure it out for yourself. EG, 1833 would be 11/166.66, which is default for your cpu. 1833 @ 133.33 FSB would be impossible since the multiplier would be 13.75, and only .5 multiplier increments are allowed (eg, 11, 11.5, 12, 12.5 .). As you can see, even tho my cpu is overclocked, it's still reported as an XP 3000+. So don't go by that. IE, mine is actually clocked 83 mhz faster than an XP 3200+ (...so it's a 3300+ ?). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: SOYO + AMD XP2500: new mobo (3)
On Tuesday September 16 2003 01:50 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:28:30 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does this say? tom # cat /proc/cpuinfo Just curious, what's the full output from the above for your system? Charles tom # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 10 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ stepping: 0 cpu MHz : 2301.434 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips: 4587.52 cpu/chipset(KT400a)/cache/ram will pass memtest86, mprime and burnK7 tests at 2.4 Ghz, but either the X server or my GeF2 won't tolerate much over 2.32 Ghz after booting to KDE. Raising the multiplier (cpu is factory unlocked) an lowerin FSB nearer to normal levels is even worse for X-windows (eg, 13.5x171). It's rock solid at 13x177 FSB (354 actual FSB), 2.30 Ghz, DDR ram at DDR427 Mhz, CL2.5-2-2. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RC2 installation
On Friday September 12 2003 11:42 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So far for CDs coming straight from heaven. No, in earnest, compatibility of burnt CDs on other machines is still an issue after CDs being on the market for so long now. :( wobo Yes, drive compatibility has always been an issue. IMO, CDr media is becoming a bigger issue also. There's only a handful of producers, but many different brand names of varying quality. When I can find 'em I always try to buy Fuji Film CDr's which are really Taiyo Udens. I try to avoid Ritek, CMC Magnetics are acceptable. Those three producers are probly 90% of the CDr's out there. At least in the USA. OTOH, production CD's have problems too. IIRC, many reported bad CD's for 9.1 were sent out in boxed sets by Mandrake's distributor. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Video processing box
On Saturday September 13 2003 01:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I want to build a box whose main purpose would be video capture from camcorder and vhs, editing, and burning to either vcd or dvd. All funds available should go into the most essential bits for that purpose, so I'd like some opinions, please. Mobo - I'm torn between Asus A7v8X-X and Soltek SL-KT400-A4C. Specs are very similar. Both have Via KT400/VT8235 chipsets. A KT400a chipset would be better. Like steppings with Intel or AMD cpu's, chipsets are no different. The latest one is usually always the best. For KT400's that's the A chip. unknown : VIA Technologies Inc|VT8377 Asus has 8x agp and Soltek has 4x agp No difference in 8x or 4x other than marketing hype. Both vendors, Asus an Soltek make good boards. But you said nothin about the proposed processor. If price isn't the consideration, I'd lean toward the Asus. But make sure to use http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html for expert recommendations for the processor you intend to use. Asus has Realtek 6-chanel codec, which I take to mean on-board sound, and Soltek has 6-ch AC'97 Audio. I've always avoided on-board audio in the past, disabling it and putting in a card. Is that still worth the effort/expense? My last two boards have had AC97 onboard with the VIA implementations. The latest, an Aopen AK77-400 Max (kt400a chipset). With both I was surprised at the sound usability and quality. The Aopen I use now has AC97 5.1, 6 channel Surround Sound (without the SB Live! problems). snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] Uses alsa very well, aRts, or OSS when called for. No problems with many sound/video apps I use, even with 9.2 cooker. Asus also offers on-board lan. I think these have been troublesome? The AK77-400 has onboard a Realtek, uses the standard driver 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] Probly psychological, but I think it works smoother an faster than my old D-link PCI card that used the same driver. Graphics cards - since I don't do gaming I've not been into the latest thing in video cards, so I don't know what is significant and what is hype. I'm looking at 128MB XFX Geforce4 MX44- or FX5200. I could go higher if there's a real advantage. Any thoughts? If 3d/accel isn't needed, a cheap GeF2 or ATI card will do just as well usin the opensource XFree drivers. Another good option would be older Matrox cards. You only need the latest'n greatest, expensive, proprietary (driver/cards) stuff to play 3d games. For video capture in/out, you'll just havt'a do your own searches, I've never used it. Any comments about anything I haven't mentioned that is significant in this scenario? Anne Yeah, the cpu. I'd imagine you'd want a Barton core XP. The 2500+ thru the 3200+ is all the same core. Payin more for the higher rating only assures the likelyhood of gettin one that has better cache (L1 L2) areas on the die. Otherwise they're all identical. You pay's your money an takes your chances ;) For what you wanna do I reckon a 333FSB 2500+ is your best bet. In USD, currently starts at $83. You'll need the Barton for it's larger L2 cache. Don't buy a 2400+. Either get a 2500+ or go for a 3000+. Just as important, ram and PSU. The AMD link above has recommends for power supplies. For ram you'll need at least PC3200 and to avoid generic, buy quality (Kingston is OK, Crucial/Micron or Corsair is the best). Spend the difference to get Cas 2.5 or lower. Specially if you don't wanna fool with/test fast ram timings in bios. Ram (and cpu caches) is gonna be a big part of what you want to use the system for. As will be kernel choice. And as always, avoid Windoze reviews, 'don't take just one person's advice' (you're the one that'll have to live with what you buy ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RC2 installation
On Friday September 12 2003 07:49 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Is there anything which I missed during last 10 days? I just received my 3 CDs of RC2 and am now in my thirteenth attempt to install it on a box where I installed 9.1 just the other week without problems. So there should be no hardware related issues. First crash (keyboard lights blinking) during formatting of the root partition (size 3GB ext3, /home is 5GB ext3)). Next time it formatted without error. Second crash during individual package selection. Dropped out of the graphics screen and shut down. Third crash during installation of packages (after about 5% crash with keyboard lights blinking) Fourth crash during switch from package selection to installation (screen frozen, no keyboard access) and so on Always at various different points. Twelwth crash right after selection of keyboard (screen frozen, keyboard no access). Again: 9.1 installation is on same harddisk and I did not change any hardware parts. 9.1 is running without errors (did some image editing with large memory access and 1 kernel compilation so far). wobo Crashes at differnet spots certainly require 'hardware' to be included as a cause. Even if the hardware is the CD's, or your drives ability to read 'em. Attached is the RC2 md5sums. You can check with 'md5sum /mnt/cdrom' or 'md5sum /dev/hd?' in a console. Be patient, it'll probly take a minute or two before the result appears. 9725a5942d84390c691d78f95084b5ee MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD1.i586.iso 78374f7ff4335f5b46b3cd7d8e2f3e94 MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD2.i586.iso 70de3baa4a1e3f3c0229bed38b237d8a MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD3.i586.iso If the md5sums don't check, or you suspect your CD drive is the cause, d/l the hd.img, dd it to a floppy, copy the CD's you have to HDD, an try'n install that way. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RC2 installation
On Friday September 12 2003 04:47 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: A second way to check a disk. (I use and trust this a bit more than just md5sum) cd to the rpms directory on the disk. # rpm -K --nogpg *.rpm | grep NOT What this does is run and check the md5 sum of each individual rpm in the directory. Ignore checking gpg signature, and only return the results if there is a problem. Other nice thing that is a side fallout is that since the rpms make up the vast majority of the CD you'll also get some idea of readability as well. James Thanks. You're point about the overall readability is well taken James. OTOH (runnin current cooker, rpm-4.2-18mdk), RPMS # rpm -K --nogpg *.rpm | grep NOT --nogpg: unknown option So I removed --nogpg an tried again, RPMS # rpm -K *.rpm | grep NOT (after a minute or so) RPMS # I take it that since no result was output, that the CDr is OK? 'rpm --help' says that -K just checks package signatures, so maybe nothin was really done? If so, I suspect md5sum is a better check. It also has to read the whole CD image. This was on RC2 CD1, burned withcdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao ...and the md5sum from the iso on HDD before, and CDr after burnin checked. For the original poster, back when I ran cooker with a dialup and help with ocaissonal cooker CD's from friends, I often had trouble reading they're burned CDr's. Specially with a CDrom, tho booting from my burner would often work well enough to get me thru the install after a few tries. In any event, I believe your system is just havin trouble with the CD's you were sent. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 01:34 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at the most. OOps, withdrawing that: I dloaded RC1. Sticking head in toilet and flushing.. Good luck, HarM There's been a sh!+load of updates since RC2. Just update RC1, probly easier than re-getting RC2. urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors. At least they didn't play bittorrent games this time. Best way to turn broadband into a 14,4K dialup connection IMO. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 04:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 03:02 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday September 9 2003 01:34 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at the most. OOps, withdrawing that: I dloaded RC1. Sticking head in toilet and flushing.. Good luck, HarM There's been a sh!+load of updates since RC2. Just update RC1, probly easier than re-getting RC2. urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors. At least they didn't play bittorrent games this time. Best way to turn broadband into a 14,4K dialup connection IMO. We did (are doing) the torrent thing Tom, I know. Some people like abuse ; just not limiting the downloads to the torrent. When I got up this mornin to find the RC2 iso's were on the mirrors, I was readin the cooker list. Sure enough a plea to run bittorrent. So what'a hey, I tried it for a while. Started with 30KB/s incoming, 0 to 3K upload. After ten minutes it was 0 to 3 incoming and 10 KB upload. I reckon in ten minutes I'd already d/l'd the sum of the pool that was available, an everybody else was suckin on me for all I'm worth. So I quit that worthless BS, and d/l'd the iso's from sunsite. I'd like to believe that the iso's were available from ftp at the same time as bittorcrap, after the rants me an a few others voiced the last time (see above) about the iso's not being on the mirrors, and only at first by bitchtorrent. I'm still feeding a 60 kilobyte stream back up even though I rsynced the RC1 ISOs from sunet rather than waiting forever for the torrent to do anything. I tried it (briefly) just for grins and giggles and the download speed was actually acceptable this time. I set max-upload at 500 and was tripping 40 to 55 KB both ways. Not fast but not bad. I've never had any luck with rsync. Screwed up mirrors, package version naming convention changes, can really fsck'ya. Plus I don't wanna maintain a local mirror. Like most all cookers, I stay current with urpmi --auto-select on cooker Net mirrors. As to upstream, most broadband connections here in the States like mine are very skewed. I get at 1.5Mbit, but only give at 128Kbit. (actually more like 145KBytes down, 10KBytes up). Like I say, bittorrent is a good way to turn a 145KB connection into a 10KB one (at best). P2P sucks in the first place. It's good for [EMAIL PROTECTED], if ya believe in that stuff. Will that command you provided above work against my local (hdb5) cooker? It should right? Thank you. Charlie urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors I add sources by hand, manage them with 'edit-TabsTab' which runs Software Sources Manager, where just a click will enable/disable mirrors. Most of the time (musical cooker mirrors, which one is worth a fsck today??), I only enable one mirror. Lately I enable 2 or 3 simultaneously that I have some previous confidence in an know that mirror different primary mirrors (sunet, sunsite). 'Course you know the -a means all sources, the -f forces a hdlist (I just get synthesis) download. I've found --wget more reliable than curl. --no-verify-rpm just saves headaches over the fsck'd up signed/unsigned/wrongly signed cooker packages lately. No, it's not for updating from your local mirror. Actually all I do is type 'cook' to stay current, alias cook='urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v'An update from a fresh RC1 install lately (yeah I got really screwed by the bad initscripts update last week), took little more than an hour. I reckon about the same to get past RC2, with a RC1 to current update now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 04:54 pm, Charlie M. wrote: Never mind. I seem to have fallen into a loop of dependency hell here. kdnetwork blahbla.32 needs kdenetworkblahblah.32 Installation failed. Try a differnet mirror. I often update successfully from club-internet.fr when sunet is fsck'd up. An club mirrors from sunet! Go figure. Also, wait a while, try again. None of the mirrors are updating as frequently as they did in past times. An never had so many with 'missing files' as they are currently. Maybe the nephew got promoted ? According to urpmi I only need a grand total of 57 MB to be current. The rpms are on the hard drive, but it just keeps displaying the same errors and won't install the blasted packages. More like 1/3 to 1/4 of 57mb. urpmi reports the needed install space, not the d/l amount compressed in rpms. Sort'a useless for updating, since your only fixin to replace already installed packages for the most part anyhow. Screw it, I'll just boot to the hdinstall.img and upgrade install them. 18 hours of feeding bit torrent is enough for now. I should just quit bitchin about bittorcrap, but after ten minutes it tol' me I only had 246+ hours to go ;) The RC2 iso's were already burned 7 hours ago from an ftp d/l. Suppose I could start bittsh!+ before goin to bed, but that'd only be contributing to the mistaken delinquency and delusion of others ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 04:38 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Heheheh, Charlie buy yourself a boat, get grounded (accidentally) at high tide and enjoy the peace and quiet (and if you took some meat along: the barbecue). I can recommend it:o) Don't do it in the hurricane season though! Good luck (and night), HarM HarM, post the link you posted to the 'other' list ;) No damn boat, pretty good size ship! Maybe you could contract some dredging as an affiliate venture? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
On Saturday September 6 2003 11:39 am, David E. Fox wrote: fdutils, includes among other utilities, superformat. But it's only for formatting DOS file system floppy's. Won't work for an What would be the difference between a 10 sector per track DOS file system floppy and an ext2 fs floppy? I don't mean from a file system standpoint, I know the differences, but from a hardware standpoint, what is it about ext2 that makes it harder to use higher-capacity format disks? I dunno Or does superformat simply make a DOS image? You still could make a bigger disk with 'fdformat' and go that route, right? It's been some time since I really used floppies much, so I'm just not understanding this point. I trink 1.6 meg would work but the media could not be all that reliable. I do recall the problems when I first started using Linux - I used to tell people that they had better use known good and reliable disks for the boot/root combos as those were native linux and back then if you had floppies with bad sectors, you were essentially out of luck. from the superformat man page, superformat is used to format disks with a capacity of up to 1992K HD or 3984K ED. See section Extended formats, for a detailed description of these formats. See section Media description, for a detailed description of the syntax for the media description. If no media description is given, superformat formats a disk in the highest available density for that drive, using standard parameters (i.e. no extra capacity formats). When the disk is formatted, superformat automatically invokes mformat in order to put an MS-DOS filesystem on it. You may ignore this filesystem, if you don't need it. Superformat allows to format 2m formats. Be aware, however, that these 2m formats were specifically designed to hold an MS-DOS filesystem, and that they take advantage of the fact that the MS-DOS filesystem uses redundant sectors on the first track (the FAT, which is represented twice). The second copy of the FAT is not represented on the disk. High capacity formats are sensitive to the exact rotation speed of the drive and the resulting difference in raw capacity. That's why superformat performs a measurement of the disks raw capacity before proceeding with the formatting. This measurement is rather time consuming, and can be avoided by storing the relative deviation of the drive capacity into the drive definition file file. See section Drive descriptions, for more details on this file. The line to be inserted into the drive definition file is printed by superformat after performing its measurement. However, this line depends on the drive and the controller. Do not copy it to other computers. Remove it before installing another drive or upgrade your floppy controller. Swap the drive numbers if you swap the drives in your computer. ... The man page is different than the last time I fooled with fdutils. I don't even have a working floppy drive now. Mine died an I haven't bothered to replace it. When I did use superformat some time ago, it would only make oversize DOS floppy's by varying amounts of sectors (21 IIRC) an tracks. I was never able to over format an ext2 floppy with any utility. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
On Wednesday September 3 2003 05:39 am, Charlie wrote: I have done this with a winblows program and still have some disks like this, up to 1.72mb which was very handy at times. I don't know how to achieve this with Mandrake, though have to admit that I have never looked into it either I seem to just write to CD now. In the old days [about 18 months ago] of 8mb RAM and 830mb hard drive it all went onto floppy. fdutils, includes among other utilities, superformat. But it's only for formatting DOS file system floppy's. Won't work for an ext2 boot floppy. It will format a DOS floppy up to 1992k, but anything over 1600k an the floppy will become increasingly unstable. The problem with boot floppy's for past year are so is the ever increasing size of the kernel and initrd images. It's also one of the main reasons that the 'rescue' option was added to the 1st and 2nd install CD's. So who needs a boot floppy anyhow? ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Hardware guru please - advice needed
On Monday September 1 2003 04:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 01 Sep 2003 10:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Anne, 'dmidecode' (as root) will tell you what voltage the AGP slot has, among other bios settings. EG (excerpt from mine), Handle 0x001B DMI type 9, 13 bytes. Card Slot Slot: AGP Type: 32bit Long AGP Status: In use. Slot Features: 3.3v bash: dmidecode: command not found I dmidecode part of something else, or something that needs to be installed separately? Anne Yes, sorry. I'm so use to always havin it installed I didn't think, lm_sensors-2.8.0-4mdk. Just 'urpmi lm_sensors' I believe it's been included for some time, so an older lm_sensors package will probly work too. It's on your CD's -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Hardware guru please - advice needed
On Monday September 1 2003 02:27 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 01 Sep 2003 5:27 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: If that level of detail is of interest, you will love The Indespensable PC Hardware Book: Your Hardware Questions Answered by Hans-Peter Messmer. Addison Wesley. ISBN: 0201876973 Very low level. Very complete. I've too many irons in the fire to tackle that right now, but it's duly noted in my TreePad Technotes file. Thanks Anne Anne, 'dmidecode' (as root) will tell you what voltage the AGP slot has, among other bios settings. EG (excerpt from mine), Handle 0x001B DMI type 9, 13 bytes. Card Slot Slot: AGP Type: 32bit Long AGP Status: In use. Slot Features: 3.3v -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2-RC1 VT8233 sound
On Monday September 1 2003 02:37 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I am having sound issues as well, but I have a SB Live! 5.1 PCI card. I got it working OK with MDK 9.2 Beta 2. :-( On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:52, Mark Belanger wrote: I don't suppose anyone has an onboard VIA VT8233 sound and has sound working with 9.2 RC1? Being an RC, I don't want to start banging my head if there is something wrong with sound, other than my cheapo sound card. -Mark Works fine, has thru all current cooker (I'm updated past RC1) snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] $ cat /etc/modules.conf alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss Uses alsa as the default sound server. For playin Sorenson v3 QT movies, I need to use 'mplayer -ao arts filename.mov'. That did just begin shortly before cooker reached RC1. Alsa works for everything else. Try runnin 'draksound' from a console as root. Make sure both aumix and kmix aren't muted, or have sound levels set to 0. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk 9.1 Pentium 4
On Sunday August 24 2003 07:16 pm, Philip Webb wrote: that's what i bought: a Barton 2500+ a Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra Black mobo. unfortunately, i ran into an obscure incompatibility between these items my 8x AGP card when i tried to run with FSB = 166 MHz . a lengthy e-correspondence with Greg Meyer Soyo support led me to return the mobo for attention the latest news via the dealer is that these mobos have been recalled by Soyo wb replaced. so i'm currently on hold, which doesn't matter a lot, as my present box has stopped making painful noises (one of Murphy's laws) i'm not intending to migrate anyway till Mdk 9.2 comes out next month. any other thoughts or comments are welcome. I was on the fence, needin to upgrade. The 2500+ thru the 3200+ is the same core, sorted for sale. Intel does the same thing. If you don't mind the extra bucks, the higher sorted chips have the better ns rated L (1 2) cache parts. Soyo boards are excellent, never a discouraging word from me. But the current champ for high end XP's is Aopen, kt400a (kt600) chipset, AMD recommended (as is Soyo, but they don't have a kt400_a_). 'Not a puff, I bought it', it's the BEST' comment. IME, with VIA chipsets ..always wait for the 'a' version. Also IME, stay away from SiS or nForce* chipsets for Linux (jus read the LKML, _not_ Net windoze hardware site reviews). BTW, my old board was a Soyo k7vta pro, the board before it, a Soyo 6ba +III. I'm a Soyo fan. OTOH, before Soyo, I used an Aopen, now a... Aopen AK77-400 Max, XP 3000+ overclocked to 3400+? (2288mhz), cheap Kingston 512 MB ram at CL2.5, R/C 2, preCH 2, 2-bank (way over it's CL3-3-3, bank disabled specs), bios reports DDR419. Runs memtest86 til the cows come home, an L-cache 13,900mb/s, ram at 708mb/s. mprime-17, cpuburn's 'burnK7' can't kill it either. Runnin current cooker (9.2 RC1). Vcore 1.75, AGP and IO volts are also +.10v bios adjusted and rock solid steady. My point is tho, it all has to work together, includin the keyboard, mouse chair. Configuration is as important as the actual hardware. Look above, I seek the 'sweet spot' for what I've got. The cpu will clock to 2.4 ghz, the ram won't, but it does better than the damn nVidia card will. My limiting factor jus' now is my Abit nVidia junk. But, it can be configured/mitigated to a minor factor in bios. The same holds true even if you don't overclock. AGP, much less AGP 8x is a kludge. It's a PCI 2 spec with hyped up marketing terminology for DirectX Winblows users. Still runs on the old tired PCI 33mhz bus. Set your aperature to 4 to effectively disable sidebanding, bios and XFree to 1x (ie, minus kludges), an avoid the cruel marketing gimmicks for winsux users to spare yourself the grief. OTOH, I already had/have a tried an true Sparkle (AMD app'vd PSU). Don't blame Soyo, you could very well have a substandard power supply. You do monitor voltages for accuracy an steadiness, right? An coolin? Fancy cpu coolers are for the kiddies, jus keep the case at room temp an a generic cpu hs/fan will do jus' fine. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MP3 to Wave
On Sunday August 17 2003 08:18 pm, David E. Fox wrote: I highly recommend lame as in lame --decode mostexcellent.mp3. Only problem is that it doesn't handle converting more than one at a time. Rob There's always shell loops :). Or, try the diskwriter plugin for xmms. Select the plugin via ctrl-v, then select your files, and press play. It does all of them in one fell swoop (tm). That's my preferred converter. Plus if you highlight all the files in the playlist, xmms gives the total time down on the bottom of the window. Very useful for jugglin 'em around to fit on an 80 minute CDr. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dev/sound
On Sunday August 17 2003 03:40 pm, Gary Montalbine wrote: ed tharp wrote: well they are virtual files they should be empty and I bet you do have devfs running as long as you are running a pretty recent version of MDK. I have spent the about the last three hours searching Google trying to learn about devfs. I am pretty certain that it is running and starts on bootup. However I am confused about virtual files and how they work. If a program points to dev/sound/audio and there is nothing in the file, how does it get executed? One other item of interest is that hardrake identifies my sound card correctly. If I go to control center then information then sound it does not recognize my sound card. (?) Thanks for your help, Gary As root, 'service devfsd status' will show if it's running As to virtual files and what they do, Google 'linux pretend files' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi force
On Wednesday August 6 2003 11:12 pm, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote: There is a way to install a rpm even if it is already installed with --force when using rpm, but the question is exists a similar option for urpmi. --allow-force, there's also --allow-nodeps Use sparingly and with caution ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dumb URPMI question
On Friday July 25 2003 02:47 pm, Miark wrote: I don't mess with Cooker, but I'm guessing it's as straight-forward as this: 1) Use urpmi.addmedia to add a Cooker urpmi source. 2) Do a: urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm --media cooker_source_name Miark urpmi.setup (urpmi.setup-0.4.4-4mdk.noarch.rpm) is probly the easiest way to add cooker sources, main and contrib. Tho I still use urpmi.addmedia on the CL. I type 'cook' to update cooker, alias cook='urpmi.update -f -a --wget urpmi --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v' The -f -a forces the update of all enabled sources, no-verify-rpm is needed for rpms you don't have the key for. Updates to cooker should be done by hand, mostly since the mirrors are so often in a state of flux. Use of --auto is not a good idea. That will often fail, and could even lead to urpmi uninstalling most of your system. Many times it's necessary to try several mirrors as some files may be missing on some mirrors, or the hdlist is incorrect. SSM (edit-urpm-sources.pl) makes this quick an easy. Just check or uncheck the sources you want to dis/enable, ie, to switch mirrors. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...
On Friday July 25 2003 01:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A temp fix: do a mv /tmp /tmp-old and creat a new /tmp that is a link to your REAL download location. Once the download completes, delete the symlink and mv /tmp-old to /tmp again. That's again why I like opera. It does not use /tmp at all but dls directly to the selected dl location. Charles Konqueror also d/l's directly to a location you choose. I like to use d4x tho. Then I can d/l all 3 iso's simultaneously. Bandwidth can also be throttled, and it will resume broken d/l's. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance
On Wednesday July 23 2003 03:00 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 7:52 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hmm, I've always liked Gcombust. Works great out of the box here. Of course, as T. Brinkman says, nothing works as good (or reliable) as doing it from a shell. :-) I haven't tried Gcombust. I'll have a play with it when I have time Anne You might try simplecdrx-1.3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm Tho it's even simpler with a few aliases an the CL ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Wednesday July 16 2003 07:05 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ... for no good reason that is readily apparent (at least to me) ... :) Bill, I'm sure you sent as plain text, but your post also shows as multi-part, as I'm sure my reply will. I believe the Mandrake footer that sympa adds is responsible. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday July 16 2003 08:14 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) First off I'm willing to bet that hda is above (physically) hdb. Heat rises so ... No, hda is the bottom drive an the drives are well separated. I believe the 67° is likely bogus. hda is no hotter to the touch than hdb. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday July 16 2003 01:20 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: I'm reminded of a story from a friend of mine. Had a HDD overheat. Couldn't read it. Stuck it in the freezer overnight. And then it would work for about 30 minutes. Stick it back in the freezer... read off more data. About 5 or 6 cycles of this were needed before they could get all the data off of it, and then trash it. (Why I like seagates new drives they run super cool.) James hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday July 16 2003 05:58 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) Tom, I don't know either - I got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# hddtemp /dev/hda Maxtor 6Y080L0 /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 34°C Hmm. Interesting that your temp on the same drive is half what mine reports. H ;) FWIW, I've got good case cooling, a fan on my HDD's to boot -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Tuesday July 15 2003 01:11 pm, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: Anyone know which mbs have the core temp sensors? From reading, not experience a few Asus, Gigabyte and a coupl'a others for new AMD XP's. IIRC, I read it to Tom's Hardware Guide. Check there or Google. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Wednesday July 9 2003 11:53 pm, dfox wrote: i want to d/l sone stuff on usenet but i haven't yet tried this. aren't the files all in rAR? ie once you tag a 'movie' what do you have to do to make it watchable? D/l all the rar parts and then 'rar e movie.part01.rar'. It'll find the rest of the rar's. Or use file-roller. Bring up the rar's in a file manager, click on the first part, then OK. Both the CL and the GUI for it will stop if one of the parts is missing. Both display progress while the movie is being extracted. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thursday July 10 2003 05:52 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. If I remember the AMD documentation correctly, it was stated that anything below 70 degrees C is acceptable, but as far as the core goes it's temperature limit is somewhere between 90 and 110 degrees C sepending on manufacturing batches ... The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also said to add 10 to 20C to reported probe (thermistor) cpu temps, to approximate the internal core temp. Something overclockers have long known. So 60C from a probe could be as high as 80C core temp. Unless that's under extreme load (ie, cpuburn, 100% load), it's too high. If 60C is reported by a motherboard reading the cpu's internal diode, then 60C is OK. From a probe the reported temp would need to be at least under 60, and maybe under 50C, to qualify as 'acceptable'. IME, for motherboards which use a probe, +10C is probly OK for temps read from a cpu pin. Use +20C if a contact thermistor is used. Most newer boards read from a pin. There's a few motherboards in the last year, that can read the internal diode AMD began putting in their XP cpu's since 6/10/02. On those boards the reported temp is the core temp. With either accurate diode, or approximate/adjusted probe reporting, you can expect the temps to go up as the cpu ages. Say about 5C after around 18 months. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thursday July 10 2003 09:19 am, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also said to add 10 to 20C to reported probe (thermistor) cpu temps, to approximate the internal core temp. No, I agree. 230F = 110C is a temp I've never seen in AMD docs. Even 203F = 95C seems unbelieveable. But that is the max temp AMD specs for processor failure. I think they mean permanently fried ;) IMO, AMD's should be kept under 60C core ( 50C from a probe) at extreme load, or you're gonna see heat related problems. Lettin 'em run hot causes a gradual degradation of the core. I only wonder why recently AMD began internal diode temp sensing for the core. Something even the first Pentiums have had all along, including good motherboard support for it. From what I've read, the few recent AMD boards that can read the new AMD diode, don't do it very well. I believe that's why Intels are the preferred cpu's for servers. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Monday July 7 2003 02:32 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 11:27, Tom Brinkman wrote: It's an IDE burner, not SCSI. I'm not interested in burnin at over 8x. Most of the time I burn at 4x. Other than the quality drives (Plextor and Yamaha), I just thought it might be a good idea to investigate the cheap ones like Lite-On. Times have changed. Plextor and Yamaha are no longer what they used to be in the days before computer users became technically savvy about cdrom technology. Oh for sure I agree. Any hardware needs to be investigated at anticipated purchase time, not prior history. Hence my interest in Lite-On's Plextor for instance now has an abysmal record with regard to EFM encoding. There are fully 20 drives tested in the following URL, and only one of them has correct EFM encoding. That drive was released *this* year; go figure. SEE: http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_cd/writers/p.html#plextor Yamaha is not really any better, in fact they are worse. Out of 28 tested drive models, NONE of them has correct EFM encoding!! SEE: http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_cd/writers/y.html#yamaha This is what happens when people are using word of mouth to buy drives instead of performance oriented test results from real world applications. The vendors can rest on their laurels and push an inferior product on an unsuspecting public for as long as they are allowed. Plextor has started reacting to the Liteon phenomenon as of this year by finally putting out a drive that encodes completely right. Now as long as you are doing elementary stuff, like burning ISO's from the image, or copying non-copy-protected audio or software cd's, you'll never know that the drive isn't all there. In that case it's fine to own an inferior burner. It's only when you are doing college level stuff like making backup copies of copy protected audio or software cd's that you will really see the problems or attributes of a drive. That's why I keep posting these links; they represent information from test results. That's the starting point; the test results. All clearly explains the Liteon phenomenon. Why exactly are they so popular? Well, the answer is very simple. Liteon drives, almost all of them without exception, are fully capable of giving you true 1 to 1 copies of copy protected cd's. Why? Because they have BOTH the hardware modes needed *and* correct EFM encoding. Look at Liteon's track record and you will see what I mean: http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_cd/writers/l.html#liteon Out of 12 drives tested, only three are questionable. By test results, not word of mouth. This is exactly why Liteon drives are popular; quite simply, they do the job that they are supposed to do under demanding circumstances. So the hacker guys that can get the jobs done under the demanding circumstances already know everything I've posted here because they are cdrw hackers; as such their opinions are respected and they are the ones recommending the drives to others trying to do the same thing. Other people like me, for instance. The push for all this recent popularity is the fact that the Liteon drives get the job done after UPS delivers them. I personally chose Toshiba, because I feel that Tosh drives offer more quality of hardware than the others, (for slightly more money) plus having immaculate hardware specs. This is all based on prior personal experience. Liteon succeeds mainly because young cdrw hackers can afford them (they are cheap) and they almost always get the job done. Few things I need to ask, are the Lite-On's made by Lite-On, or are they rebadged from other manufacturers? Liteon is it's own manufacturer to the best of my knowledge. There are others relabeling the Liteon brand, like Buslink, and they sell them at a lower price. So if you see any Buslink brand burners in Best Buy or elsewhere, jump on them and ask the guys there if it registers as a Liteon model number in system information when it is installed. A relabeled Liteon drive will always display it's true Liteon model number when installed in the system. We bought a Buslink burner from Best Buy as a birthday present for a hacker bud not too long ago, and I went to Liteon's firmware page, downloaded their latest firmware, and flashed the drive (under DOS) before I giftwrapped it and sent it on. We paid 25 bucks for the drive after rebate.It was actually a relabeled Liteon LTR-32123S. Can the firmware be flashed from DOS Yep , and are updates available (or have been)? Yep I went to their site to look for myself, but got an 'under construction' message. Please check the following URL: http://www.liteontc.com.tw/ HTH, --LX Thanks for the concise summary of current burners. I agree also, given better quality hardware, I'd spend the extra bucks. Savings in the long run. Unfortunately many brand names
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Monday July 7 2003 01:44 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Tom, I don't even have those CDs anymore - they were 4 CD's of the Lord Of The Rings that he ripped. I eventually bought the store version and threw them away. TBH, since I've thrown them away, I can't remember if they were true 800 meg CDs or 700 meggers jam-packed full. I know he (my brother) said they had 800 megs each on them. I'll ask him the next time I see him. A 700 mb CDr has two sizes. 80 minutes, and 700mb. Only time minutes is important is audio images. I often burn way over 800 mb's of wav's to a CDr, but the time needs to be just under 80 minutes of playing time to make the CDr stable on cheap junk CD players. Movies OTOH don't go by minutes, they need to fit 'data wise' in MB's on a CDr. Guess I'll just keep re-encoding the 'too big' ones ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Another Windoze feature in 9.1: kernel freezes routinely
On Monday July 7 2003 04:59 am, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: Thanks for suggestions for various stress tests---I will try them tonight. To answer James Sparenberg's question: I have tried both the 0.13mdk and the 0.18mdk. I usually use NeTraverse' win4lin enabled kernel, but have reverted to the standard Mandrake kernels to see if this is the problem. I do not use the SMP kernels. I would be slightly surprised if it was a hardware problem, given that I have run Mandrake 9.0 for 3--4 months and 8.1 for about a year without problems of this sort. For the same reason, X is not too likely to be the culprit as I did not upgrade my low-level video driver when upgrading to 9.1 (I'm using a locally compiled version of Nvidia's proprietary driver). Probly not hardware, but hardware still has to be eliminated as a first step. I'd suggest one pass of memtest86's tests (easy), then 'mprime -m', choose #17, the torture test (harder). Let it run for an hour. If you pass those tests, then cpuburn's 'burnP6' (Intel), or 'burnK6' (AMD), (extreme test). Let it run for 20 minutes while keeping an eye on cpu temp. There's no output, but abort with 'Crtl+C if temp goes too high. If it does, you need better cooling and over heating could well be your freeze problem. ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime234.tar.gzcpuburn and memtest86 are on your CD's or available from Mandrake mirrors. Next step if your hardware passes uninstall nvidia and use Xfree's 'nv' driver. You'll also need to replace the nvidia tainted kernel. Uninstall any other closed source proprietary unknown apps or drivers. At least till you this problem sorted out. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Sunday July 6 2003 11:37 am, dfox wrote: Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] CDRW OK, thanks Ed, same mode supports as my old drive. I don't want burnfree, but it can be disabled. I'm thinkin this old drive has got to be replaced sooner or later ;) Is yours scsi? It might be worth keeping. but I think tese days that atapi is getting better and better. otoh, the newer drives can burn really really faxt :). It's an IDE burner, not SCSI. I'm not interested in burnin at over 8x. Most of the time I burn at 4x. Other than the quality drives (Plextor and Yamaha), I just thought it might be a good idea to investigate the cheap ones like Lite-On. Few things I need to ask, are the Lite-On's made by Lite-On, or are they rebadged from other manufacturers? Can the firmware be flashed from DOS, and are updates available (or have been)? I went to their site to look for myself, but got an 'under construction' message. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Monday July 7 2003 02:53 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Remember. The vendor can report the correct write modes all he wants; but there is also the small matter of correct EFM encoding. That means actually testing the drive to see if the drive can reproduce exotic conditions like weak sectors. That in turn means that somebody needs to have actually tried to produce backup copies of exotic cd's in an attempt to create true 1 to 1 copies.and then reported their results. Like the results at the CloneCD hardware database, for instance. For an idea of what true quality drives are capable of and what they are up against, please check out the following: http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20021213/lg-13.html Not having perfect EFM encoding is the same thing as not having the correct raw hardware modes at all. For this info we need somebody's test results. I agree with your basic premise Lyvim. Years ago I used CloneCD's data base and comments to choose Plextor, the darling of burners at the time. Keep in mind tho that CloneCD's Windoze software, and THG's review/test is also Winblows based. Linux/cdrecord/cdrdao/ mkisofs results may or may not be different. (probly better ;) Still ya gotta start somewhere ;) I'm mostly curious because I hear a lot of good reports on Lite-On's, even THG gave 'em a thumbs up. I'm thinking a good cheap burner might be a better alternative than keepin my old cd-rw and even older CDrom. Just use the burner for everything in my next system. I'm not a fan of direct CD to CDr copying anyhow, and burners are better readers than cdrom's ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Monday July 7 2003 12:15 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 07 July 2003 11:51 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: copying anyhow, and burners are better readers than cdrom's ;) I can testify to that - my younger brother made some 800 meg CDs one time for me...only thing I had on 3 comps that would read'em was my good 'ole Plextor CDRW. :-) I can't find any 800mb CDr's in the stores ;( Where do y'all get 'em? USEnet's got some 715 to 775 movies. I can use mencoder to reduce their size to fit on 700mb CDr's, but at a loss of a little video quality. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/encoding.html#rescaling -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Sunday July 6 2003 04:52 am, charlie wrote: On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 03:44 am, Kwan Lowe had this to contribute :- I have 4 Lite-On burners that work flawlessly. Have to agree with 2 Lite-On burners and one CD reader only. Absolutely faultless. Could a few of y'all with Lite-On's post the results of 'cdrecord --checkdrive dev=0,0,0' Just the ID/Rev, and the last several lines are relevant. I'd like to see what these drives support compared to my over 5 years old, used a lot Plextor, Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W8432T' Revision : '1.09' Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Sunday July 6 2003 08:25 am, ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:56, Tom Brinkman wrote: Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Mine Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R OK, thanks Ed, same mode supports as my old drive. I don't want burnfree, but it can be disabled. I'm thinkin this old drive has got to be replaced sooner or later ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)
On Saturday June 28 2003 10:20 pm, Brian Parish wrote: I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently. Can anyone say anything definitive about the error correction issue that apparently applied to WD drives? There was a series of threads on the Mandrake groups - probably a year back now - in which some people including Civileme talked about WD drives relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC and therefore being subject to corruption when used with linux. If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or whatever, it would be great to know. As it stands I am reluctant to use them, but maybe I'm missing out on a great product. As I answered before, it's still an issue. For your own take search recent lkml archives. I've seen various posts about WD's lack of proper CRC checking in just the last week, even with the latest kernels. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed
On Sunday June 29 2003 07:16 pm, Brian Schroeder wrote: Thanks Tom and Olaf for your replies. I will have a play with Sandra and see what I come up with. Brian. At 01.24 27/06/2003, you wrote: Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of SDram (ie. 66, 100, 133)? Obviously, in cases where it isn't actually written on the stick. Ram is what it'll do. Use Sandra if you want, but any info you get from it is suspect, probly incorrect. Memory most often runs at the same mhz as the FSB, cept for some motherboards that allow setting the ram mhz asyncronis to FSB. On those boards it's a serious performance hit to set mhz timing of the ram below the cpu's FSB speed (eg, 100mhz for the ram when usin a 133mhz FSB cpu). As I said before, the only ram timings that really matter are mhz, cas, and bank-interleaving. Best timings are highest mhz the ram (and cpu) can run at with -0- errors at cas2, 4-bank while keeping a reasonable PCI bus speed. Memtest86 is a decent check, very much better than Sandra, and memtest86 will display the ram's (as timed in bios) mb/sec in the upper left corner so you can see what is achevied by changing bios timing options. 'Cept for ram with SPD onboard the stick, and SPD enabled in bios (which IMO it never should be), ram doesn't dictate what speed it runs at, the motherboard and bios timings do. The only part left to the ram is whether or not it can keep up ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)
On Monday June 30 2003 04:37 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 20:20, Brian Parish wrote: I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently. Can anyone say anything definitive about the error correction issue that apparently applied to WD drives? There was a series of threads on the Mandrake groups - probably a year back now - in which some people including Civileme talked about WD drives relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check), not ECC and therefore being subject to corruption when used with linux. If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or whatever, it would be great to know. As it stands I am reluctant to use them, but maybe I'm missing out on a great product. TIA Brian Not only is it not fixed... I personally feel it's gotten worse. I was forced to install during a recent install fest on a number of WD drives and to be honest not a one of them worked worth a dang. I could never get one to work reliably above UDMA2 (nor could winders, which is how we got them for free.) If all of those drives hadn't been donated I personally wouldn't have done anything but trash them. James Brian, better than taking anecdotal opinions from various Mandrake lists (BTW, I believe James' opinion is valid), a better source than even civileme is the lkml (linux-kernel ml). WD's still continue to be reported as problem drives due to lack of proper CRC checking. Used with Linux the usual kernel guru's advice is to never use them above udma2 (ata/33), or disable udma altogether for WD drives. This will not alleviate the data corruption problems WD's inflict when placed on the same ide channel with certain other brand drives tho. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Compiling kernel from .src.rpm
On Thursday June 26 2003 06:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: rpm --rebuild --target athlon kernelwhatever.src.rpm This will take up to 3 hours to buid all versions of the kernel (the default action)- some people do a procedure to edit the srpm makefile to only build the type kernel they need, but it's more complicated. Not really, somethin like, rpm --rebuild --with up --without smp --without secure --without enterprise --without BOOT --without minimal --without mydsdt --without debug --without doc --with source --target athlon kernelwhatever.src.rpm Still it's easier to just to rpm -Uvh the kernel-source rpm and compile the kernel. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed
On Thursday June 26 2003 06:24 pm, Brian Schroeder wrote: Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of SDram (ie. 66, 100, 133)? Obviously, in cases where it isn't actually written on the stick. 66, 100, 133, etc. are just marketing labels. Ram is what it'll do. The more important specs are ns and cas rating, but quality ram will most often outperform it's specs. Generic ram often won't live up to it's label. 1000/mhz = ns. The most important bios timings are mhz, cas, and bank-interleaving. I've got a mix of pc100 (6 years old) and pc133 ram sticks, I've been usin all along at 135mhz, cas2, 4-bank interleaving. The pc100 was sold as 8ns, cas2, but I've used it for years at 1000/135 = 7.4 ns Set to cas3 it'll do 155mhz (6.45ns) and still pass an overnite run of memtest86 with -0- errors. My daughter's computer is using 66mhz ram, so old it was manufactured before the marketing labels were even invented, reliably at 112 mhz, cas3. 'Course the ram quality is only half the story. Equally important is the motherboard quality, the caps it uses, and a little over spec IO voltage (+5 to 10%), and a decent high quality PSU with very steady output. Most quality mobo's furnish over spec IOv by default, usually 105%. Corsair XMS, probly te best ram currently available, won't run worth a damn on a PC Chips motherboard, with substandard caps, fed by a wobbly generic oem PSU. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel
On Wednesday June 25 2003 05:11 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:10, phriedrich wrote: Hallo In what way is the Multimedia-kernel changed/improved to the normal mandrake kernel? Means it that it is faster in multimedia-apps? Friedrich I haven't the cpu power to use it, but If I remember right from the discussions in cooker, low latency is built in along with a number of other things for doing realtime audio and video editing. Most of this came about from trying to get a multimedia tool called (IIRC) Jack. James Doesn't require any more cpu power than other kernels. It's mostly for professional audio, but for other users it does have the low latency and preempt patches, plus a new and improved supermount. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Get your burners warmed up folks
On Tuesday June 24 2003 04:17 pm, Miark wrote: 9.2 is _not_ a point release in the common sense of the word because Mandrakesoft does not, in fact, make them. 9.2 will have the latest and greatest of everything available; point being you can expect as many bugs in this release as with any other release. Miark ...and less bugs the more people use and test cooker, monitor the cooker list, and submit usable bug reports to bugzilla. Mandrake is for all practical purposes, a community based distro. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cooker installation
On Saturday June 21 2003 12:49 pm, John Drouhard wrote: I decided I was going to get myself into some deep water and install cooker. How should I go about doing this? At this very moment I am mirroring a local copy of this: ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooke r/i586 Do I need to mirror the entire .../Mandrake-devel/cooker dir? Or is the i586 directory enough. And, once this is done, how do I go about installing it? I am going to do a fresh install from Mandrake 9.1. Are all the setting and config files from 9.1 okay to use with Cooker? Or should I start over with my /home partition too. Thanks! John Drouhard http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2003-06/msg01423.php (the mirrors are still not fixed) http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/CookerHOWTO.html http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerfaq.php3 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cooker installation
On Sunday June 22 2003 11:08 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 22 June 2003 08:39 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/CookerHOWTO.html This was the beginning of a document that has become part of the cooker TWiki. You can find the much more complete version of this here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo I really should take the old document down. OK, thanks Greg. I've changed my bookmark. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No Sound (again)
On Friday June 20 2003 11:49 pm, David E Fox wrote: Tired of the endless no sound messages I got it fixed once in 9.x when I used a cooker kernel.. I've taken the plunge and gotten cooker latest mirrored. I did a HD install just a few minutes ago. My kernel is Linux m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 2.4.21-0.1mdk #1 Wed May 7 04:38:19 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux And there were a number of errors in the boot. There was a slight permissions glitch in adding a user -- I had to chown to dfox because everything had user id 501, which was already dfox from the previous install. But more to the point - it seems 9.x cooker (hot off the press) has trouble initializing the card. Mine's a creative labs SB Live 5.1 version. I had it OK in the previous install, and after finding a better/newer kernel I could eventually change the driver from audigy o emu10k. You really should subscribe to the cooker list if you run cooker, or at least comb the cooker archive. The primary mirrors have been sort'a screwed up since 6/18. Mirrors that mirror off them are even worse for longer. Many have reported problems installin cooker as is. The usual suggestion is to do a fresh 9.1 install (you can keep /home), and then update it to current cooker 9.2, but use sunsite, the primary mirror. As far as you've gotten, I believe I'd try doin an update of sunsite sources, then 'urpmi --auto-select'. My guess is the mirror probly won't be fixed before Monday tho. Keep an eye on the synthesis.hdlist's in ../base If you don't wanna fool with that, cooker iso's of 9.2 should be available soon, at least before the end of this month. I've been usin 9.2 all along with no problems. I've got onboard AC97 sound. I don't remember any complaints or bug reports for 9.2 SB live! When the mirrors finally do get straight there should be a new 2.4.21 marcelo kernel. Maybe it would straighten out your problem. Or try the mm kernel in contribs (/RPMS2), 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk. It's the one I use. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Running updatedb crashes my comp!
On Saturday June 14 2003 10:59 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 09:43 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: That means you've got no problems with cpu/cache/ram and that your cooling is adequate under extreme load. I suspect your problem involves some files or such that got corrupted by all these hard lockups and resets you've had. Tho I really don't know what slocate uses to build the db, I suspect it doesn't do it all by itself. Whats puzzling (extremely!) Is that I had reinstalled (fresh) then ran updatedb -first- before doing anything else. Happened from from the very first reboot after installation. Not much chance of damage done there, eh? I do know that slocate -u and updatedb do the same thing, AFAIK. 'locate -u' == 'updatedb'Sorry I must'a missed the part where you've had this problem even after a fresh install. You could try 'bonnie++' to see if your drive(s) are behaving up to par. Should be on your CD's. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Running updatedb crashes my comp!
On Sunday June 15 2003 07:52 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2003 07:58 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: 'locate -u' == 'updatedb'Sorry I must'a missed the part where you've had this problem even after a fresh install. You could try 'bonnie++' to see if your drive(s) are behaving up to par. Should be on your CD's. No problem - I tend to ramble when facing seemingly insurmountable and unsolvable problems! grin I'll try that - I've used bonnie before, thats a pretty good piece of software. One more thought, tho I think the suggestions you've gotten to check the filesystem are probly better ... take a look at /etc/updatedb.conf and see if it isn't corrupted or incomplete. Here's mine: tom$ cat /etc/updatedb.conf ## Linux-Mandrake configuration. # # Originally written by Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Modified 20010109 by Francis Galiegue [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Fixes by [EMAIL PROTECTED], 20010328 # Where to start. FROM=/ # Which directories to exclude. /home and /root are excluded for privacy, but # YMMV PRUNEPATHS=/proc,/tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/net,/afs,/mnt # Security level : # 0 turns security checks off. This will make searchs faster. # 1 turns security checks on. This is the default. SECURITY=1 # Be verbose or no. VERBOSE=NO # Where the database is located. DATABASE=/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db # Which filesystems do we exclude from search? PRUNEFS=nfs,smbfs,ncpfs,proc,devpts,supermount,vfat,iso9660,udf,usbdevfs,devfs -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] weird cdrom problem
On Sunday June 15 2003 04:47 pm, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: Does urpmi --update kernel do anything different? Look in /etc/urpmi/inst.list ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Running updatedb crashes my comp!
On Friday June 13 2003 11:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2003 06:39 pm, Miark wrote: Sounds like a hardware problem that manifests itself with a lot of heat. Is there some other CPU-intensive stuff you could try to test that theory, like rendering some video? Miark Just ran cpuburn for about 20 mins with no problems. That means you've got no problems with cpu/cache/ram and that your cooling is adequate under extreme load. I suspect your problem involves some files or such that got corrupted by all these hard lockups and resets you've had. Tho I really don't know what slocate uses to build the db, I suspect it doesn't do it all by itself. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Con Kolivas 2.4.21-rc7 kernel patch
On Tuesday June 10 2003 11:49 am, Robert Crawford wrote: For those interested, there's a brand new Con Kolivas -ck1 patch against kernel 2.4.21-rc7. I just tried it on Mandrake 9.1, and so far so good, except no supermount (if one cares). And it's better than 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk with low latency, preempt, and improved supermount ? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Con Kolivas 2.4.21-rc7 kernel patch
On Tuesday June 10 2003 06:32 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 15:00, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday June 10 2003 11:49 am, Robert Crawford wrote: For those interested, there's a brand new Con Kolivas -ck1 patch against kernel 2.4.21-rc7. I just tried it on Mandrake 9.1, and so far so good, except no supermount (if one cares). And it's better than 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk with low latency, preempt, and improved supermount ? If you are in a mood to experiment. (I can't right now running under knoppix ... mobo in this laptop is going south... wish me luck on e-bay right now... If I win the auction... I get a new one... if not... I save up for a new laptop.) There is a kernel mod called submount. Doesn't require rebuilding the kernel.. just building the modules. I had it working here for a day before the IDE channels went south on this box. It's at http://submount.sourceforge.net/ and for me it was working rather well but then again I didn't test very long. It was written for the 2.5 kernel (where supermount is failing) and back ported to 2.4.20/21 series. James I've always run cooker since 7.x and I'm usin the mm kernel with 9.2 cooker. 'Bout as much 'sperimentin as I do ;) I asked 'cause I believe you run cooker too, and if you might'a seen some hands on benefits to the alternative kernel you proposed. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Flash Player trouble.
On Wednesday June 4 2003 06:11 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 04 June 2003 06:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: All, If I go to abcnews.go.com with my box that has libflashplayer installed my cpu usage shoots to 100% and slows the box to an absolute crawl... Question is... Is it just my box or can others duplicate this problem. My cpu usage hovers around 50% on that page using konq with libflashplayer working. I have an AMD 2400+ Mine is about 50% too, I use Mandrake's flash rpm (FlashPlayer-6.0-3mdk) with konqueror. 1.5gig Athlon. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.0 to 9.1
On Tuesday June 3 2003 04:52 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: Supermount is the first thing to go, always. I second that commotion. Nice idea, but still not ready for prime time. :) ... or some users opinions. For me, I've hardly ever had any problems with supermount. The best implementation of supermount is found in the mm kernels, currently 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Lockups in LM91
On Wednesday May 28 2003 09:05 pm, Mark Williamson wrote: Now the Zeroconf stuff, and the freezes are usually caused by a program tmdns, just run the command rpm -e tmdns after you have completed this process, just check your /etc/hosts file and the /etc/resolv.conf file making sure that the continence is correct, if the continence of your /etc/hosts file is not correct that will cause lockups.. Cheers Mark For tmdns, I just went to MCC, System Services and stopped it from running. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE 3.1.2 (login problem SOLVED)
On Tuesday May 27 2003 03:07 am, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: Well, runnin cooker all the time, lately it's gotten to be a problem for me too. Usually due to a bad .kdmrc after updates. Not corrupt, just stuff missing. Since I seem to have lost my only good backup copy of .kdmrc due to a user error (me ;), I just switched to usin GDM instead. No more more problems, tho I don't like GDM as well, at least it works ;) OTOH, booting to my user desktop was never affected. Well, the problem was that the new rpms deleted the kdmrc file, and didn't install a new one. But hopefully the previous one was saved with .rpmsave extension, so I only had to rename it. Right you are. The user error I referred to was I must'a use'd mv instead of cp when I put the saved kdmrc back in place the time before ;( I often suck like that ;) NBD, the 3 months of testing for 9.2 is fixin to begin in June with a release of ISO's**. I'll do a re-install then, and in the meantime I use GDM. I only need it for log-out/ins after (mostly kde, XFree) cooker updates anyhow. ** http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/CookerHOWTO.html -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Radeon: Anyone using: Option AGPFastWrite true with VIA KT400 ??
On Tuesday May 27 2003 03:59 am, John Vickers wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: [...] Try puttin 'mem=nopentium' in your lilo or grub append line. Don't forget to run 'lilo'. Since it's a kernel parameter, you'll need to reboot. You appear to be making an oblique reference to the AMD AGP speculative caching issue. Disabling 4M pages with mem=nopentium isn't relevant on 2.4.20 later kernels. The conflicting page attribute kernel bug was (believed to be) fixed in 2.4.20, and the earlier 2.4.19 workarround patch (adv-spec-cache patch) is no longer relevant. The Mandrake 9.0 kernel: 2.4.19-16mdk included the workarround patch. See: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0302.2/1615.html Since the timings for the return data phase of an AGP read are very similar to the timings for an AGP Fast Write, electrical problems with that transfer type seem less likely to me than some kind of logic problem. John. Yes, an I believe as you do the problem is solved in newer kernels. Still many users, specially those who taint their kernel with the nVidia driver and/or other proprietary kernel corruptions, swear the nopentium parameter is still needed. That's why I suggested to try it. I have an nVidia AGP card, don't use nopentium, don't use the nVidia driver, no problems with a 6-4-4 Athlon oc'd to 1.5GHz on a kt133a chipset. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Benefits of recompiling the kernel
On Wednesday April 2 2003 04:48 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote: A kernel recompile won't produce a faster machine (at least, not in the conventional sense). It can, however, make the perceived speed of the machine seem faster. For example, some of the low latency and pre-emptible kernel patches for the 2.4 series can improve the desktop response. More recently, some of the scheduler changes can make simple things like MP3 playback smoother. Keep in mind that these are patches to the default (i.e., Linus Torvalds) kernel. Mandrake may already have applied many of these patches so you might not gain a thing. For 9.1 (should be OK on 9.0 too) kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.0.16mdk-1-1mdk kernel-multimedia-source-2.4.21-0.16mdk (on cooker /contrib (RPMS2) mirrors) This kernel includes patches useful for multmedia purposes like: preemption, low-latency and the ability for processes to transfer their capabilities. The preemtion patches allow a task to be preempted anywhere within the kernel, using spinlocks as markers for non-preemptibility regions. The resulting system response is greatly increased, with measured average latencies under 1ms. Andrew Morton's low-latency patches fix the remaining points in the kernel that cause latency. The setpcap patch allows suid root processess to transfer capabilities to non-root processess, and so making it possible for user processes to run with realtime priority. No discernable improvement seen here, but I use it anyhow ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE 3.1.1 for MDK 9.1
On Thursday April 3 2003 04:07 am, maxxik wrote: Hi everybody ! Where i can find KDE 3.1.1 for MDK 9.1 ? wbr, maxx Well, the CHRPM (change log) list has had all the new KDE 3.1.1 rpms on it for several days. Some are even up to patch level 5 (-5mdk) already. BUT, the mirrors are stagnant, and nothings showin up yet. The why not?, and how come? has been asked on the cooker list, but nobody in the know at Mandrake has said anything. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updatedb
On Wednesday April 2 2003 06:07 pm, Jack Coates wrote: the daily cron job doesn't do updatedb any more after 9.0 9.1 upgrade. Anyone else seeing this? Intended behavior? Hmmm, I just took a look. 'slocate.cron' is in cron.weekly, and does a 'slocate -c -u'. IIRC, it was also weekly in 9.0. A switch from daily, since so many users were complaining about HDD trashing at start up (anacron). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE 3.1.1 for MDK 9.1
On Thursday April 3 2003 08:22 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: Well, the CHRPM (change log) list has had all the new KDE 3.1.1 rpms on it for several days. Some are even up to patch level 5 (-5mdk) already. BUT, the mirrors are stagnant, and nothings showin up yet. The why not?, and how come? has been asked on the cooker list, but nobody in the know at Mandrake has said anything. Maybe Cooker is not unfrozen yet ? Well, late last week it did thaw enough to have a few updates. But that ended on Friday. Now the primary mirror has a mix match of hdlist*'s dated Fri., and synthesis.hdlist*'s dated 4/1. (April Fool's ? ;) When these situations have occurred with past cooker, it was usually one of two things. Either the cooker primary mirrors were unable to get updates from Mandrake's internal server (snafu), or they were being held on purpose. I suspect the latter reason this time. Could be it's still frozen, tho I don't see why since the CHRPM list is so active. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Tuesday April 1 2003 03:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at best. If it is good PC100 from a reputable company such as Crucial or others it can be run at 133. I have several stick th no problem. Charles For sure, I've got an anicent stick of 128MB Mosel Vitelic 8ns cas2 'pc100' ram running with two other Crucial sticks. All at cas2, 4 bank-interleaving at 135mhz. Won't do 137 tho, without errors :) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday March 29 2003 10:33 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: In what way should one notice any enhancements with the multimedia kernel? What apps might I test/run to compare with the default kernel? praedor Audio recording, professional studio quality, multi channel. Search the recent cooker ML archive for the discussion. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday March 29 2003 04:05 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: It can be done in the manner Tom used but I have a strong aversion to doing a force install. I prefer editing XF86Config-4, rpm -e the current nvidia rpms, rebooting the new kernel to init 3, rebuild and then install the nvidia rpms, edit again XF86Config-4 and then switch to init 5 where I am greeted by the nvidia splash screen. Charles Generally I'd agree with the aversion to --force (and --nodeps). In cases where your just replacing old packages with the same version numbers, --force just prevents getting the already installed error. Same as using --replacepkgs, --replacefiles, and --oldpackage. (man page). I use --force rarely, but sometimes it's very useful. I boot the new kernel and let X fail out of laziness ;) IE, removing the old nvidia rpms and booting to level 3. I took the time to disable that damn nvidia splash screen tho ;) Easily done with 'yanc', and if you also have 'nvclock' installed, you can overclock the card a little and get some even better glxgears FPS to brag about :) FWIW, my glxgears fps (1024x768x24) drop some when using the multimedia kernel, compared to Mdk's 'stock' kernel. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] erroneous contrib synthesis.hdlist2.cz
On Sunday March 30 2003 06:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: surely that phenomenon should disappear in a few hours at maximum then, right? Fact is that it's been like that for at least 3 days now... Cheers, Hans Apologies... didn't realize it had been that long. Submit a bug report through Bugzilla... This is a definite problem. James An inconvience, not a bug or a problem. It happens from time to time. I expect it to resolve Monday when whoever's maintaining the primary mirror comes back to work after a weekend off ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday March 29 2003 03:56 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:44 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: I installed 9.1 and the NVidia video card drivers for the standard kernel, and I find that I cannot boot the mm kernel for lack of proper driver registration for my NVidia card. What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? You will likely need to build the nvidia drivers for the new kernel. Every time I add or rebuild a kernel, even if it is essentially the same as my previous kernel with just an option or two changed, the NVidia driver needs to be rebuilt for that kernel. praedor Two weeks ago I installed the nvidia driver on 9.1. Just to test, they're removed as of yesterday. I had both the 'regular' kernel, and the multimedia one installed. And yes, the nvidia src.rpms had to be built against each new kernel. I boot directly to KDE. After -ivh 'ing a new MM kernel (there were several updates during that period), and -Uvh 'ing the kernel-source for it, I'd shut down and reboot. Of course X would fail to start, and drop me to a level 3 prompt. I'd log in as root, rebuild the nvidia src.rpms again, and --force those newly built rpms in on top of the old ones. Reboot, and all was well again. Caution tho, any of 9.1's zippy performance was lost while using the proprietary drivers. Now that I'm back to using the XFree driver, and the nvidia taints are gone, the system's zippy again ;) But to tell the truth, the MM kernel doesn't add any noticible zip. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 and 2.5.xx kernel questions
On Thursday March 27 2003 10:53 pm, flacycads wrote: I found both the multimedia 2.4.21 rpms and srpm in the regular ibiblio contribs mirror. Does anyone know if those indeed have the preemptive patch, kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.0.16mdk-1-1mdk Description This kernel includes patches useful for multmedia purposes like: preemption, low-latency and the ability for processes to transfer their capabilities. The preemtion patches allow a task to be preempted anywhere within the kernel, using spinlocks as markers for non-preemptibility regions. The resulting system response is greatly increased, with measured average latencies under 1ms. Andrew Morton's low-latency patches fix the remaining points in the kernel that cause latency. The setpcap patch allows suid root processess to transfer capabilities to non-root processess, and so making it possible for user processes to run with realtime priority. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Thursday March 27 2003 11:29 pm, Ron Stodden wrote: Configuration differences: 1st machine (fails) has a Promise chip on the Gigabyte motherboard which supports IDE0 through IDE3. motherboard with Windoze-controller, software driven 2nd machine (succeeds) has a Soltek motherboard supporting IDE0 IDE1, with an add-on Promise PCI board providing IDE2 and IDE3. motherboard with a real controller Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Keep in mind tho, no matter how many ide ports you add, or are built in, they all have to work at taking their turn, thru your one 33mhz pci bus. YMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Friday March 28 2003 09:34 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely accurate. Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller) The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included. The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation. ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not. Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start. Sometimes this will work sometime not. OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to try it I can probably dig it up for you. Charles I figured somebody would catch me in a general statement ;) I still stand by it. IMO, these integrated addon controller boards are best avoided. Most all vendors make two models of their boards, one with, one without addon controllers. If you havt'a overload the pci bus with extra ide ports, get a real controller card. Y'alls MMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 and 2.5.xx kernel questions
On Friday March 28 2003 11:23 am, flacycads wrote: Thanks Tom! That's just the info I've been looking for. If I may ask, what is the source of this information? Robert Crawford I've got kio_rpm-0.0.6-6mdk installed. With that, and usin 'rpm:/' as the URL in a browser, you can browse thru the rpm information for any installed rpm, sorted by groups. It's in /contribs on the mirrors if it's not on the d/l CD's. The multimedia kernel and kernel-source are on the /contrib mirrors too, but I'm pretty sure they didn't make it onto the d/l CD's for space considerations. Now if you understand that description (below), kindly explain it to me ;) I just know Danny Tholen's multimedia kernels work great, no problems. They're just the current Mandrake kernel (-13mdk) with the preempt, lo-lat, and a few other patches. That info comes from my understanding of cooker ML discussions. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas On Friday 28 March 2003 09:09 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday March 27 2003 10:53 pm, flacycads wrote: I found both the multimedia 2.4.21 rpms and srpm in the regular ibiblio contribs mirror. Does anyone know if those indeed have the preemptive patch, kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.0.16mdk-1-1mdk Description This kernel includes patches useful for multmedia purposes like: preemption, low-latency and the ability for processes to transfer their capabilities. The preemtion patches allow a task to be preempted anywhere within the kernel, using spinlocks as markers for non-preemptibility regions. The resulting system response is greatly increased, with measured average latencies under 1ms. Andrew Morton's low-latency patches fix the remaining points in the kernel that cause latency. The setpcap patch allows suid root processess to transfer capabilities to non-root processess, and so making it possible for user processes to run with realtime priority. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thursday March 13 2003 12:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. Understandable. The advice to post to cooker or file a bug report was misplaced anyhow as this problem has endless duplicate bug reports already filed. The assertion to update to current cooker is valid tho. This and other network and DHCP related stuff has already been fixed. IME, bugs reports on RC2, or any other beta ios's are usually reported and fixed within a few days, so bug reporting them at this late date is invalid. A search of the cooker archive http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/ would've revealed this, On the bright side, if you update to current cooker this weekend, you'll have 9.1 final ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX
On Saturday March 8 2003 05:21 pm, Joeb wrote: Anyway, as I have said before, IANAL, so I'll let the free software foundation make their arguments. I'm sure they will do a much better job than I could do! Joeb Only thing I know about court cases is the outcome is rarely based on common sense, what's right or wrong, or what's fair. 'Bout the only thing most of us can do about this situation is to go to http://www.gnu.org/ and make a donation or become an Associate Member. If you become a member they send you a credit card size membership card which is also bootable Linux CD ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone know of a good hardware diagnostics tool for linux?
On Saturday March 8 2003 01:55 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Something which would test motherboard (also bios and memory addressing) related problems? I used memtest86 but if I understood it right it will just test the memory itself but not the real way an operating system handles it. Best regards, Adrian o memtest86 should be the first step BUT, no software diag can separate ram from the rest of the system for testing. o mprime (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) A better test of cpu/cache/ram/motherboard/PSU than memtest. Run the torture test. (mprime -m, #17 from the menu). o Cpuburn (http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/) Run the modules appropriate for your system and cpu. Mandrake also has an rpm for it. If you can run cpuburn for about an hour without failing, your system should be bulletproof. Unless you're sure your case and cpu cooling is adequate, take the diag's in the above order. Otherwise go right to cpuburn. The acid test for cpu/cache/ram/PSU/motherboards. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?
On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Mandrake 9.0. I was just trying to run a search for lesstif (rpm -qa|grep lesstif) and found myself waiting forever for an answer. I then just downloaded the lesstif rpm and tried to install it. Nothing. It does the preparing thing but just stalls and never gets anywhere. I then tried running rpm --rebuilddb and via gkrellm I see CPU activity spike up to 100% for about 10 seconds or so but then it drops back to background and nothing comes of it (from the CLI). I do not get dumped back to the commandline and I have to do a Ctrl-C to get the command prompt back. What do I do to get rpm working again? What file do I delete (database, config, whatever) so I can reset the whole mess with an rpm --rebuild? rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.* (^^, that's two underscores) rpm --rebuilddb -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0 installation fails on step 'Hard drive detection' (WDC WD800AB-00CBA1)
On Wednesday March 5 2003 04:49 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: Andreas Weiss wrote on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:07:12PM +0100 : I can install Suse Linux, but only with the kernel parameters: ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off With ML these parameters didn't help. noapic didn't help either. Try ide0=nodma and maybe noacpi as well. I've also seen pci=noacpi, but I've never seen a case where it actually affected anything (ie I don't know if it's relevant in Mandrake kernels). Blue skies... Todd acpi=off is all that works on my Mandrake (cooker) system http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/81_acpi.html acpi=off -- This parameter disables the whole ACPI system. This may prove very useful, for example, if your computer does not support ACPI or if you think the ACPI implementation might cause some problems. acpi=oldboot -- Deactivates the ACPI system almost completely: only the components required for the boot process will be used. pci=acpi -- This parameter activates the PCI IRQ routing of the new ACPI system. The old IRQ routing is the one normally used for compatibility reasons. acpi=force -- This parameter activates ACPI even when the computer's BIOS is prior to 2000. This parameter overwrites acpi=off. pci=noacpi -- This parameter disables the PCI IRQ routing of the new ACPI system. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Wednesday March 5 2003 01:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 19:52, Jim Hubbard wrote: Oh and one more thing. For God's sake please don't release iso's this time until AFTER the retail product is on shelves. No one point you made is more loudly echo'd by me than the last boxes first iso's second. Possible exception... Club Members. They have paid for this so to speak. Wish I could remember where, but I've seen some more or less 'official' discussion that iso's won't be available until the box versions are, with the exception of Club members. 'Course the easy work around is to get the RC2 iso's and update from any cooker mirror. By mid March, you'll have 9.1 final. ... or join the Club ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Automatic e-mail notification
On Thursday February 27 2003 07:07 pm, Michael Scottaline wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:06:09 -0500 Daniel Axtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Is there a simple way to be notified automatically notified of incoming email? I'm using kmail (by default), and tried to play around with korn, which doesn't seem to do anything. Is there an easy way to do this? === kbiff or gkrellm will do just what you want Mike Kmail 1.5, don't remember if earlier versions had this, but I think they did (I've never used it). Settings | Configure notifications, New mail arrived, there's settings to play a sound, popup a mesg window, log to a file, etc. But I doubt there's any use for this unless you also configure kmail to check for mail at regular intervals. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
On Friday February 28 2003 06:35 am, Greg Meyer wrote: /ronst//a Empty warhead found in White House /pre /body /html HTML e-mail is always more than likely to be spam than a real message. In fact, I typically have a filter set up to automatically send mails with html to the trash. After I saw civileme's post, I had to go retrieve this one to reply to it. You'll notice how hard it is to read your post. Kmail displays a HTML email as source, but there's a security warning mesg outlined in red at the top that allows you to click 'here', and then the HTML is displayed in all it's tiny unreadable font ugliness. Replying to a HTML email, automatically converts it to plain text. I just use the Delete key whenever I see a HTML email (as many do). So I haven't read any of Ron's. Bottom line is tho, the Welcome to the [Mandrake} mailing list email that automatically is sent to each new subscriber specifically requests that all posts be as plain text, and that HTML should not be sent. So to do so is arrogant, inconsiderate, and rude, or just plain ignorance of netiquette for any public list. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Out of Control?
On Tuesday February 25 2003 05:10 pm, flacycads wrote: Given that, it's going to be hard to convince me that trying to optimize Linux and gcc for newer cpus is not worth the trouble. However, I'll keep an open mind on the subject, and I'm certainly not an expert. Robert Crawford OK, I'll give up on Texstar results, and the Mdk-Gentoo comparisons. As I said I've only read about those. In my experience tho, with my 1.4 Tbird (always oc'd to 1.5), compiling for athlon, even the kernel, is just somethin to do when I'm bored. I've never seen any measurable performance increase, or 'lookn feel' improvement. I'm always usin the most recent gcc, since I'm always runnin cooker. Optimizing with 'hdparm -t' to get 47mb/sec from my drives, running the ram at aggressive timings (cas2, 4 bank-interleaving), and using slighty over spec voltages for Vcore (cpu) and I/O (ram), does show measurable preformance increases in the range of 5 to 10%. Y'allsMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Out of Control?
On Tuesday February 25 2003 12:27 pm, flacycads wrote: My main complaint (really about the only one) about Mandrake is that they apparently refuse to issue an Athlon-XP optimized version for retail sales, or download. However, at least you can rebuild the srpms yourself. But really, how hard can it be to recompile the entire distro for different architectures like Gentoo does, and post the iso's with an unsupported disclaimer, if need be? IMO, they will loose a lot of users if they don't. Otherwise, Mandrake is a great distro, but the bottom line is a lot of users won't even consider distros that only put out i586 optimized versions (or less) anymore. After all, fewer and fewer users are even running i586 hardware these days. Mandrake needs to get with the times. Yes, the popular perception is that i686 has got to be better than i586, and compiled for athlon must be even better no? Real world is that neither i686 or athlon compiling provides anything but somethin to do if you're bored. Could even reduce performance. At least that's been my experience for some years now (Tbird/VIA kt133a). Many others have reported the same. Texstar and a few others compiled almost 95% of a recent Mandrake release for athlon, and gave up cause it was no better, introduced more problems. Gentoo has actually been shown to be no faster tested against i586 Mandrake. Often slower, from what I've read of others experience. The source rpms are available for everything and you can always build 'em yourself. OTOH, how could a distro like Mandrake possibly compile for each and every cpu and motherboard chipset combination? Specially since some of the most recent cpu's, grossly overstate their capabilities, and chipsets vary widely in their design and performance. Examples, the recent fad of Via C(yrix) 3 processors that report to be i686, but are really not even fully compliant i586 cpu's, retaining many i486 characteristics and limitations. There's also the P4's with their poor FPU capability, and that still don't have decent motherboard chipsets to run on. If ya just gotta squeeze out a little more zip ... overclock ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Serious problem with files system/hardware use in 9.0
On Wednesday February 19 2003 02:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 7:52 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: It's odd, I still haven't had a single problem. Hang on - I didn't say that, my fingers and toes aren't crossed... Todd: Copy an entire CD. If it works for you, then you just have really good hardware (or at least really compatible with the drivers). I don't think I've copied an entire one, but I have copied about 400 MB worth at a time, I think. Maybe I'm just lucky, but it does work for me. Anne Before the 2.4.21 kernels, copying a 700mb with about 6,000 .jpg's on it to HDD would result in a nothing but 'no such file' errors about half way thru the CD, either on the CL or with a file manager. Copying 1/2 at a time worked fine. This was the only issue I've had with supermount in a long time. With every 2.4.21 kernel since, this situation is no longer a problem and access to removable media is very much faster. Almost instantaneous on the CL, just a few seconds in a file manager like Konqueror. 'Course this is with 9.1, which probly makes a difference. I'd think tho that a current 2.4.21 cooker kernel should not be a problem on a 9.0 system. (kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.8mdk-1-1mdk). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Question of ppoe
On Tuesday February 18 2003 11:34 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: All, Got an e-mail from someone who thinks I'm an expert with Linux (little do they know *grin*) any way they have DSL with SBC and it uses ppoe I've never set it up and I don't know of a good document source. Note that the person is computer literate but primarily a windows developer. So this person expects a lot of things to work/act like windows. (Took me a long time to make this person believe that Linux doesn't need different driver CDs all the time) Any rate I'm looking for a basic point and shoot kind of instruction page that I can point them to to set up ppoe... any suggestions? James Mandrake Control Center (drakconf), there's a wizard that just asks some basic questions. I prefer to use Roaring Penguin, the rpm (rp-pppoe) is on the CD's. Either should setup the connection with no problems. For rp-ppoe, run 'adsl-setup', which, like MCC, also asks some simple questions. Actually 9.1, uses rp-ppoe during installation and the connection is ready to go when you first boot up. 'adsl-start' and 'adsl-stop', unless ofcourse, you tell the 9.1 installer to start the connection at boot. Coupl'a cautions, at least true for me with SBC thru SWBell. User, must be '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', simply 'user' won't work. DNS is automatic, and connection is dynamic IP, so don't enter any DNS numbers or IP address if that's the case with the connection, ie, dynamic, DNS from 'server'. I choose 'none' for firewall during adsl-setup, then installed and setup guarddog. There's more info than anybody'd want in the 'DSL-howto', but it's fairly easy reading, and has a trouble shooting section. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0: patch VIA to enable UDMA100 not installed but yet reporting UDMA100, Cycle time 120 ns???
On Saturday February 15 2003 01:49 pm, Dave Laird wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 11:35 pm, vatbier wrote: What is a normal sustained transfer rate for UDMA5 in Linux ( what does hdparm -t /dev/hda return on your computer)? How in Win XP can I test the sustained transfer rate like in Linux with the command hdparm -t /dev/hda ? Would it be the same speed as in Linux ? hdparm -t /dev/hda1 Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.08 seconds = 30.71 MB/sec My UDMA is set by the motherboard resources, and is fast as the dickens. I hope my answer helps in some way. Dave My drives are *udma5 with hdparm -t rates more than 50% better than 30.71 MB/sec (47+), on an ata/100 controller. Hdparm as most benchmarks are, is somewhat useful for seein if setting changes improve the hdparm results on your system, but they are irrelevant when it come to real world data tranfers, or comparing with other users and their systems. Hdparm -Tt measures meaningless burst rates. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ICH4 on MDK9 resource collision
On Wednesday February 5 2003 03:40 am, Birkoff wrote: Hello I have a MSI MS-6580 motherboard with 845PE chipset The problem is that when mdk9 boots it gives me PCI device 0:1f:1 was disabled because of resource collision and because of that the computer behaves like a 486 when it comes about reading/writing on the disks. is there any patch for the default 2.4.19 kernel witch comes with the mdk9? or a newer kernel from mandrake? I can try to install a fresh new kernel from kernel.org but I am afraid that the original kernel was patched and particularised by MDK team. any other suggestions are welcomed. I don't have an Intel chipset, haven't had one since the good'ol BX. Still I read the cooker and change-log lists daily. There's been quite a bit of discussion about i845 chipsets, particularly improved udma IDE support. IIRC, the newest 2.4.21's have some additional patches for that chipset. Latest is kernel-source-2.4.21-0.pre4.2mdk, or you could get the precompiled binary version from any cooker mirror. Install with rpm -ivh and your current default kernel will be preserved, and the new one only there as a boot option. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
