[FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits Arriving: Nat'l Call

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Well, I guess hell froze over -- and a lot of hard-core pessimists
 will have to find something else to be mad at. :) Perhaps it would be
 good to use a napkin to remove the egg from your faces. 

Honestly? I remain unconvinced. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits Arriving: Nat'l Call

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Oct 13, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  IMPORTANT CONFERENCE CALL
 
  About the Arrival of the Vedic Pandits
 
  SATURDAY, OCTOBER 14
 
  9:00 pm EDT • 8:00 pm CDT • 9:00 pm MDT • 8:00 pm PDT
   Live on MOU  or via conference call
 
 I can't wait.
 
 Actually, I do plan on trying to watch at least some of it, as much as 
 I can stand.  Should be fun to try and see Bevan spin with a straight 
 face.
 
  To join the conference call, telephone: 512-225-3019—
   and then  enter the code 60345#
 
  His Excellency Dr. John Hagelin;
   Dr. Robert Wynne, Raja of Vedic  America;
   His Excellency Dr. Bevan Morris
 
 Anybody know the difference between a Raja and an Excellency? Curious 
 minds and all that.

Excellency is earned. Raja is bought.

 
   Dear Vedic Pandit Benefactor
 
 Uh, oh...
 
  Fantastic news!
 
 Uh oh again.
 
 
 (huge trim here)
 
   However, we must immediately cover the start-up costs of building the 
   new campus—and continue to build until we have proper housing for 
  1,000  Vedic Pandits.  Therefore, now is the time for all of you who 
  have who so kindly  pledged to support the Vedic Pandits when they 
  arrive to quickly fulfill  your commitment.
 
 So this is a--gasp--plug for $$?  Who would have thought.

Read it more carefully. It's a request for people to pay up what they've 
already pledged.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   Nice.but aren't Macs total shite?  
Look at all the spurious typography in that shit. All that was 
 caused 
   by stupid fukin' Macs.
   I worked on Macs for 12 years, then was forced swtich to a 
 Toshiba.   
   I will never work on a Mac again. I teach on Macs and PC's. Even 
 the 
   new macs are constantly crashing and freezing. The PC's never 
 do.
   It is very frustrating for the  students, but all the stupid Mac 
   addicted old-fart design faculty think that all that sh!t is 
   normal !!   

   Its not normal Mac retards ! ! ! 
   
   Macs are Shite.
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  
  Guffaw.
  
  Now I know your entire set of crazy arguments about black holes 
 was an elaborate troll.
 
 Then how come you completely lost the argument, and made a fool of 
 yourself.


Elvis: OK.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for
  prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.
 
 For me, the ability to play *any* type of online multimedia is of
 primary importance, and I don't trust Linux or even a Mac to handle
 all Windows Media Player content. I recently switched from Win2000 to
 XP only because I started encountering too many sites requiring WMP
 10, which is not available for Win2000. 

Heh. How's WMP at MPEG-4 content?

And I'll match the formats supported by QuickTime vs the formats supported by 
WMP any 
day of the week.

 
 The way I deal with Windows security issues is to keep my machine
 behind a hardware firewall, not use Outlook Express, and use Internet
 Explorer as little as possible. 
 
 Because I use robust hardware (all name brand components, not
 cheap-ass proprietary crap from the big PC makers), I encounter very
 few bug problems.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   Nice.but aren't Macs total shite?  
Look at all the spurious typography in that shit. All that was 
 caused 
   by stupid fukin' Macs.
   I worked on Macs for 12 years, then was forced swtich to a 
 Toshiba.   
   I will never work on a Mac again. I teach on Macs and PC's. Even 
 the 
   new macs are constantly crashing and freezing. The PC's never 
 do.
   It is very frustrating for the  students, but all the stupid Mac 
   addicted old-fart design faculty think that all that sh!t is 
   normal !!   

   Its not normal Mac retards ! ! ! 
   
   Macs are Shite.
   
   OffWorld
  
  I never have understood the Steve Jobs fan club that much.  They
  really believe the hype sorta like another organization we all 
 know. 
  They believe it so much they pay a lot more for a computer (kinda 
 like
  paying a lot more for a little mantra).  And now it is running Unix
  and it probably would have been running Linux if it was for that 
 SCO
  fiasco.  And there is nothing wrong with either of those OS's as in
  fact I won't do email and most of my browsing anymore on buggy
  Windows.  I'm now running Ubuntu having upgraded my Linux system. 
  Love it, except that I need to work out a cursor bug with the PNY 
 6200
  video card.  There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for
  prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.
  
  That being said I think what we're looking at is UTF-8 encoding 
 which
  is messing up the display.  Perhaps someone didn't set the encoding
  right on the page.
  
  And of course I get to answer this on the web page because I got 
 all
  of one hard bounce and Yahoo shuts down the account.  That I 
 don't
  get either.
 
 Macs used to be better than PC's and faster and nicer, up until 
 about the year 2002, 'specially for large file graphics operations. 
 Now they are shite by comparison. I had a friend with a brand new 
 Mac expensive laptop, and I kept going on about how Macs are awful 
 and always freezing and crashing under duress, whereas my Toshiba 
 never freezes. My friend denied all thisthen not long after my 
 friend's Mac crashed and was at the doctors for 2 weeks. My Toshiba 
 has had just about as much abuse as you can give a computer (except 
 for in Shemp's case when he is dribbling and squirting all ove the 
 place on it :-), and it has never had a problem and deals with my 
 graphic design work no problem. Macs are slow.
 
 OffWorld



shrug. What's the fastest CPU on a toshiba? The fastest I could find at their 
website was a 
2.0 duo core. The fastest MacBook Pro has a 2.16 duo core.

The older Mac laptops are based on an ancient  powerpc G4 design that is quite 
slow by 
today's standards. IBM stopped conentrating on Apple-oriented processors 
because there 
was more money in games consoles, so Apple switched their entire product line 
to Intel as 
of this year. Unless your friend bought his in the past 6 months or so, his Mac 
laptop is at 
least 5x as slow as the current Mac laptops.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unlikely job prospects for siddha scholarship recipients

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Invincible America web site says that:
 
 How long will the grants support last for each person?
 We envision that people will be trained for jobs that will enable them 
 to support themselves with just 2 hours/day of work. Once one reaches 
 this level, then the $600/month will no longer be necessary and can be 
 used to support someone else.
 *
 To learn enough computer programming to be able to do this would take 
 what, a couple years of study? I see the TMO pulling support for the 
 scholarship recipients (except for the pundits, if they show up) after 
 a short while regardless of whether they are earning enough or not 
 (just as they did for recerts). I do think that lots of baby boomers 
 collecting early-retirement Social Security checks at age 62 (which 
 starts in 2008) will be interested in taking advantage of this program, 
 which will mean that only the pundits will need to be supported.


If they have $1 million/month pledged for the next year, they can be patient.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Pilot program for TM into a California high school, sponsored by 
 Lynch:
  
  http://www.marinij.com/ci_4486015
 
 
 
 Of course.
 
 This is going to happen everywhere the TMO tries to implement TM into 
 schools.
 
 Why waste time and money trying?


Is it a waste?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Pilot program for TM into a California high school, sponsored by 
  Lynch:
   
   http://www.marinij.com/ci_4486015
  
  
  
 
 
  Of course.
  
  This is going to happen everywhere the TMO tries to implement TM into 
  schools.
  
  Why waste time and money trying?
 
 
 ***
 
 It's not only a waste of time and money, but if it ends up in the 
 courts, it will only tend to reinforce the TM-as-religion issue, which 
 does not need to be highlighted. It would be a lot smarter to leave 
 school kids alone, except for private schools and charter schools where 
 schools can do as they please, and teach TM to parents, who can then 
 get their kids to start. Ignorant parents naturally tend to circle the 
 wagons when they think their kids are in danger from some foreign 
 element, and there is no sense trying to fight that.


Charter schools are public schools.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
   bob brigante wrote:
   
   ... teach TM to parents, who can then get their kids to start.
   Ignorant parents naturally tend to circle the wagons
   when they think their kids are in danger from some foreign 
 element,
   and there is no sense trying to fight that...
 
 
  
  except that in this case, the alarmed parent already
  had been part of the TM Org, and she spoke with that 
  authority of negative personal experience.
  
 
 *
 
 It's Standard Operating Procedure for hysterical evangelicals to 
 claim that they did TM for years before they came to their senses ( 
 http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/201.html ), and it's almost 
 always a bullshit claim by people who will say anything to scare 
 people away from TM and into the fundie camp. Anyway, it makes no 
 difference what one person has to offer by way of anecdote -- that's 
 why they do scientific studies, and TM has that all wrapped up.
 


Did I read she was a TM *teacher* for 35 years?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pilot program for TM into a California high school, sponsored by Lynch:
 
 http://www.marinij.com/ci_4486015


It's being presented as a CLUB, sponsored by the Lynch foundation, with 
meditation meetings 
before and after school. This COULD work, I think.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna said: Of the PA amp systems, I am Bose

2006-10-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
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 For all musicians: I just got this Bose PA
 system:http://www.bose.com/controller?
event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENTurl=/musicians/index.jspck=0
 
 Off the charts.  Fantastic sound though the whole room.  Email me if
 you want more details.  I am blown away.  Hare Krishna


Never thought about it in that connection, but
I believe Bose (baw-say) is a rather common Hindu
family name. (Bose-Einstein -condensate?).




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits Arriving: Nat'l Call

2006-10-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 CHRIST ON A CRUTCH DOES IT NEVER F*CKING END???
 THE BALLS ON THESE PEOPLE!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BURN IN
 HELL. F*CKING ASSHOLES!!!
 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087020/




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perhaps it would be best if...

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
  wrote:
  
   On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
   
Judy, has it ever occurred to you that adults don't tell other
adults
what they'd like you to do?  That it's usually up to the 
person to
decide for him/herself what is best?  I guess not.
   
Some people are only comfortable in a situation in
which they are constantly told what to do and what
not to do. After thirty years or so of this, they
aspire not to enlightenment but to telling other
people what to do and what not to do.  :-)
   
   Exactly.  Condescension becomes a way of life, and if you can't 
   beat em, join em, I guess.
   
   It's very doubtful Judy would put up with the manipulation in 
   the TMO were it to really occur with anyone else, with any 
   frequency at all.  She'd simply find a new doctor, dentist or 
   whatever.  But it's impossible to admit she's been taken in all 
   these years.
  
  Bingo.
  
  I really do think that that's the issue. She (and
  many others) have a fairly fixed sense of self.
  When it's challenged, and someone sees them differ-
  ently, they feel the need to defend that imaginary
  fixed self. And one of the things that a fixed self
  *hates* to do is admit that it may have been stupid.  :-)
  
  Those of us who are a little more fluid, and who are
  used to laughing at ourselves (our selves, however
  temporary and imaginary they may be) are often more
  able to kick back and say, Yup...I sure got taken
  to the cleaners on that one.
 
 You do realize, Barry, don't you, that none of what
 you've been saying has anything at all to do with
 the point I made, right?  

You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
desire to *ever* deal with your points or
have any kind of real interaction with you.
They are at best jumping off points for what
*we* want to talk about. We have no interest
whatsoever in talking about what *you* want
to talk about. :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I never have understood the Steve Jobs fan club that much.  

It's a lot like the way the people here who have never
met Maharishi or been in the same room with him revere
him. If you had (I have, with both), you wouldn't feel 
quite the same way about them.

Distance from the object of reverence increases the
ability to feel the reverence.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I bow to Judy's more extensive experience working with
  the Inquisition. I didn't know the man personally, but 
  I presume from her answer that she did, and still has 
  strong feelings of loyalty for her former boss.  :-) 
  
  However, I cannot help but wonder (given the contemporary
  sloppy use of 'phony' as a noun and not an adjective)
  just what about Torquemada she considered *non*-phony.
  
  For example, many would agree that as a torturer he was 
  not a phony. He had that down pat...the Real Thing. But 
  as a human being or a man of God? 
  
  Anyway, it's good to know the kind of people whom Judy
  admires and considers non-phonys. It helps us to 
  figure out who *she* is...  :-)
 
 It'll be just as helpful as all the rest of your
 wildly imaginative fantasies about who I am, Barry.

Ok, we get it. Either your past life memory is
fuzzy or you don't want to talk about your time
as an Inquisitor. 

However, just out of curiosity, you keep calling
me a 'phony.' A phony *what*?

I've always found 'phony,' used as a noun, to be
a lazy kinda weasel word. The word implies that
the person it's aimed at is pretending to be some-
thing he is not, but what *exactly* is it that you
think I'm pretending to be.

I'm interested in your answer not because it'll 
affect me, but because I'm hip to how unaware you
are of the amount of projection in your posts. So
whatever it is that you think *I* am pretending
to be will really be what *you* pretend to be, but
cannot accept in yourself. So rant away...tell the
world *exactly* what it is that you think I'm 
pretending to be, and allow us to get yet another
glimpse into your own fantasies.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] do you feel a teas in your heart...??

2006-10-14 Thread Ankur Saxena



Do you feel a teas in your heart. The teas not because of your selfish and unfulfilled desires. But the pain because of the rounded humanity and the tear of poor and miserable peoples.How can your sit in your house and enjoy the life when some one poor is bound to sit over the roadside and trying to get shelter from the painful climate.   How can you enjoy luxurious items when there are number of children’s who are force to sleep empty stomach because of
 poverty?   How can you say that your life is going smooth when a large section of society is still fighting to claim its existence?   Dear friend. What all you have is the precocious gift of GOD. There are many peoples with the same skill and abilities but they never get the same benefit of it. This is because of the absolute law of karma (http://www.awgp.org/gamma/LiteratureEnglish) and the impartial law of GOD.   We should thank him for his bless. But the mechanism of Thanking is not so simple. He doesn’t like peoples coming done to temples and enjoying it like a picnic. But he likes people to share his wealth with the poor and miserable ones.This is the time of changing era. This message was said by earlier social and spiritual reformer. No matter whether it was Buddha or Ram or Jesus.Today is the time when we need to judge our ultimate destiny. What will be like our world to become. A place full of selfish and sins peoples (called as kaliyug). Or a place where all of us live with love an peace. Where all
 peoples are provided with equal wealth, priority. No cast system will be there and all will be considered as pupils of the same divine power (known as satyug).   There is no place for those who can not make any decision. Please make sure to be on side of either evil or TRUTH and then decide your life principles based on that only.   The time is going to be changed and thus the destiny of the world is also going to be rewritten. But this time there will be no place for blood, war and sins. But there will be only love, companion and peace all over. Please get together and receive the ultimate benefit of
 contributing your life for the sake of Truth.   A person requires more query and guidance, can reply on the same mail id.A humble request, for the sake of humanity. 
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[FairfieldLife] IAM?

2006-10-14 Thread cardemaister

Has anybody tried Amma's meditation? 

Finnish culture minister shall be
to first one to hug Amma during her
upcoming visit to Finland:

http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/200610135224573_uu.shtml




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  I never have understood the Steve Jobs fan club that much.  
 
 It's a lot like the way the people here who have never
 met Maharishi or been in the same room with him revere
 him. If you had (I have, with both), you wouldn't feel 
 quite the same way about them.
 
 Distance from the object of reverence increases the
 ability to feel the reverence.


Is this relevant to Christianty or Islam, I am wondering?
Who amounst us has seen, or touched the robe of the Master:
Jesus or The Prophet Mohammad?
Who has touched to robe of Moses or David?
Or even of the American Icon- Abe Lincoln?
And, look, see:
Who are our Icons now, in our culture?

Is it not better, even for people,
Who have not had the fortune to meet with Maharishi, personally;
That those who choose so, can feel as close to him, and/
What is the harm in thus? I ask am wondering?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Scandal hits Gangaji

2006-10-14 Thread Peter
Thanks for this post, Tom. There were too many posts
implying Gangaji was some sort of fraud. She is one
powerful woman. Some people repond to an advaitic
teacher and others just get confused.

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 Regarding those who she has awakened. I have one
 friend who went up to
 ask her a question when she was in FF and the only
 way he knows her
 answer was to watch the video. He said he felt
 himself fall all the
 way into the self of silence and that has not
 changed in over 10
 years. He knows who he is. I have a 20 minute video
 clip of Nick Wolfe
 the former TM Sidhis administrator very elequently
 explaining his
 30+year quest as a seeker and then being a finder in
 her presence. It
 is very moving as he explains it very clearly. There
 is also a very
 young 20ish female from FF who showed up at a
 Satsang in CA who
 relates her awakening as Delightful Confusion. The
 video is very
 refreshing as she recounts her time as a seeker born
 in FF to parents
 who were seekers and her ultimate decision to chuck
 it all. Gangaji
 explained to the audience that the girls words of
 Delightful Confusion
 was the best description of awakening she had ever
 heard. Delightful
 as it was extremely so and Confusion because the
 mind was never going
 to get it. Many of the folks who appear on the
 videos turn out to be
 old TMers who finally meet up with the person who
 can provide the
 understanding that has been missing. Enjoy Tom T
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perhaps it would be best if...

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
snip
   I really do think that that's the issue. She (and
   many others) have a fairly fixed sense of self.
   When it's challenged, and someone sees them differ-
   ently, they feel the need to defend that imaginary
   fixed self. And one of the things that a fixed self
   *hates* to do is admit that it may have been stupid.  :-)
   
   Those of us who are a little more fluid, and who are
   used to laughing at ourselves (our selves, however
   temporary and imaginary they may be) are often more
   able to kick back and say, Yup...I sure got taken
   to the cleaners on that one.
  
  You do realize, Barry, don't you, that none of what
  you've been saying has anything at all to do with
  the point I made, right?  
 
 You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
 desire to *ever* deal with your points or
 have any kind of real interaction with you.
 They are at best jumping off points for what
 *we* want to talk about. We have no interest
 whatsoever in talking about what *you* want
 to talk about. :-)

ROTFL!!  My point, of course, is that what *you*
want to talk about is something you attribute to
me that *I* never said, which you're using as a
jumping-off point for your fantasies about me.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Distance from the object of reverence increases the
 ability to feel the reverence.

Third law of spiritual dynamics.

lurk






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

However, just out of curiosity, you keep calling
 me a 'phony.' A phony *what*?
 
 I've always found 'phony,' used as a noun, to be
 a lazy kinda weasel word.

Best used as an adjective to modify baloney.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Those 600,000 dead

2006-10-14 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Pinning Civilian Deaths on the Great Satan  
 By Mark D. Tooley
 FrontPageMagazine.com | October 13, 2006
 
 A British medical journal is once again inflating the number of 
 Iraqis killed during the U.S.-led liberation of that country...

No, it isn't. It is using, in good faith, one statistical method 
which has its pros and cons. It is here: http://www.thelancet.com/
and is a pretty mature and sensible publication.

Another method is to count whatever headless corpses come to light
in the streets of Baghdad after the night's killings. Is this a 
better study?
Uns.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   I bow to Judy's more extensive experience working with
   the Inquisition. I didn't know the man personally, but 
   I presume from her answer that she did, and still has 
   strong feelings of loyalty for her former boss.  :-) 
   
   However, I cannot help but wonder (given the contemporary
   sloppy use of 'phony' as a noun and not an adjective)
   just what about Torquemada she considered *non*-phony.
   
   For example, many would agree that as a torturer he was 
   not a phony. He had that down pat...the Real Thing. But 
   as a human being or a man of God? 
   
   Anyway, it's good to know the kind of people whom Judy
   admires and considers non-phonys. It helps us to 
   figure out who *she* is...  :-)
  
  It'll be just as helpful as all the rest of your
  wildly imaginative fantasies about who I am, Barry.
 
 Ok, we get it. Either your past life memory is
 fuzzy or you don't want to talk about your time
 as an Inquisitor. 
 
 However, just out of curiosity, you keep calling
 me a 'phony.' A phony *what*?
 
 I've always found 'phony,' used as a noun, to be
 a lazy kinda weasel word. The word implies that
 the person it's aimed at is pretending to be some-
 thing he is not,

Exactly.  It's usually used to describe someone
to an audience that is familiar with the persona
that person presents, so the audience already knows
the what that is being described as phony...

 but what *exactly* is it that you
 think I'm pretending to be.

...so the missing piece in He's a phony isn't
what the person is pretending to be--since the
audience knows what that is--but what he really
*is*.

And I'm pretty sure I've made it quite clear here
what you really are: shallow, dishonest, vicious,
ego-ridden, pretentious, pompous, and hypocritical,
just for starters.  You're also often delusionary,
and you're wrenchingly profoundly attached to your
own point of view, unable to tolerate perspectives
that differ from yours.  You have an elaborate set
of inflexible rules about how others should think
and behave, accompanied by an equally elaborate set
of fantasies about how they *do* think and behave.

 I'm interested in your answer not because it'll 
 affect me, but because I'm hip to how unaware you
 are of the amount of projection in your posts. So
 whatever it is that you think *I* am pretending
 to be will really be what *you* pretend to be, but
 cannot accept in yourself.

(Oops, you got a little confused here.  You meant
to write what *you* pretend NOT to be but cannot
accept in yourself.)

Just as a very recent example of how you are not
what you pretend to be, in your immediately previous
post addressing me, you wrote:

You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
desire to *ever* deal with your 'points' or
have any kind of real interaction with you.

Yet here you are, only one post later, interacting
with me.

 So rant away...tell the
 world *exactly* what it is that you think I'm 
 pretending to be, and allow us to get yet another
 glimpse into your own fantasies.  :-)

As noted, what you pretend to be is what you
present yourself to be on this forum.  We all
know what that is; it's the opposite of the list
I provided above of what you really are.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for
   prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.
  
  For me, the ability to play *any* type of online multimedia is of
  primary importance, and I don't trust Linux or even a Mac to handle
  all Windows Media Player content. I recently switched from Win2000 to
  XP only because I started encountering too many sites requiring WMP
  10, which is not available for Win2000. 
 
 Heh. How's WMP at MPEG-4 content?

Dunno. Don't care. I use Zoom Player and Quicktime for viewing most
downloaded files.
 
 And I'll match the formats supported by QuickTime vs the formats
 supported by WMP any day of the week.

That's all very nice, but if you hit a website that requires WMP 10 in
order to play embedded streaming video, Quicktime is going to sit
there, not doing a goddamn thing. I started coming across websites
that wouldn't work with WMP 9 in Win2000, not even with IE; I had to
fire up the XP laptop to see the embedded content. And, even with WMP
10 on XP, I sometimes have to load a site in IE because it won't work
in Firefox. 

The reality is that there are still a significant number of websites
built with proprietary M$FT software that require the latest M$FT
client software. And, yes, I find it annoying; I much prefer more
open, cross-platform standards, like embedded Flash video. But, as
long as the Microsoft Hegemonizer Bunny is on the loose, I will
continue to use Windows.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Those 600,000 dead

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Pinning Civilian Deaths on the Great Satan  
  By Mark D. Tooley
  FrontPageMagazine.com | October 13, 2006
  
  A British medical journal is once again inflating the number of 
  Iraqis killed during the U.S.-led liberation of that country...
 
 No, it isn't. It is using, in good faith, one statistical method 
 which has its pros and cons. It is here: http://www.thelancet.com/
 and is a pretty mature and sensible publication.

Exactly.  The point is not to nail down the number
of excess deaths, but rather to find a rough measure
of whether the situation in Iraq has improved or
worsened since the invasion, in this specific case
with regard to the mortality rate.

Here's an excerpt from the Guardian piece I cited
by Daniel Davies about the Lancet study:

The question that this study was set up to answer was: as a result of 
the invasion, have things got better or worse in Iraq? And if they 
have got worse, have they got a little bit worse or a lot worse. 
Point estimates [i.e., of the number of deaths] are only interesting 
in so far as they demonstrate or dramatise the answer to this 
question.

The results speak for themselves. There was a sample of 12,801 
individuals in 1,849 households, in 47 geographical locations. That 
is a big sample, not a small one

And the results were shocking. In the 18 months before the invasion, 
the sample reported 82 deaths, two of them from violence. In the 39 
months since the invasion, the sample households had seen 547 deaths, 
300 of them from violence. The death rate expressed as deaths per 
1,000 per year had gone up from 5.5 to 13.3.

Talk of confidence intervals becomes frankly irrelevant at this 
point. If you want to pick a figure for the precise number of excess 
deaths, then (1.33% - 0.55%) x 26,000,000 x 3.25 = 659,000 is as good 
as any, multiplying out the difference between the death rates by the 
population of Iraq and the time since the invasion. But we're 
interested in the qualitative conclusion here.

That qualitative conclusion is this: things have got worse, and they 
have got a lot worse, not a little bit worse. Whatever detailed 
criticisms one might make of the methodology of the study (and I have 
searched assiduously for the last two years, with the assistance of a 
lot of partisans of the Iraq war who have tried to pick holes in the 
study, and not found any), the numbers are too big. If you go out and 
ask 12,000 people whether a family member has died and get reports of 
300 deaths from violence, then that is not consistent with there 
being only 60,000 deaths from violence in a country of 26 million. It 
is not even nearly consistent.

[This is the money quote:]

This is the question to always keep at the front of your mind when 
arguments are being slung around (and it is the general question one 
should always be thinking of when people talk statistics). How Would 
One Get This Sample, If The Facts Were Not This Way? There is really 
only one answer - that the study was fraudulent.[1] It really could 
not have happened by chance. If a Mori poll puts the Labour party on 
40% support, then we know that there is some inaccuracy in the poll, 
but we also know that there is basically zero chance that the true 
level of support is 2% or 96%, and for the Lancet survey to have 
delivered the results it did if the true body count is 60,000 would 
be about as improbable as this. Anyone who wants to dispute the 
important conclusion of the study has to be prepared to accuse the 
authors of fraud, and presumably to accept the legal consequences of 
doing so. 

-

[1] In the context of the 2004 study [that estimated 100,000 excess 
deaths], I was prepared to countenance another explanation: that the 
Iraqis were lying and systematically exaggerating the number of 
deaths. But in the 2006 study, death certificates were checked and 
found in 92% of cases.

http://tinyurl.com/yzhaa8

There are a *lot* of comments following this
article, most positive, some negative, which
I haven't had a chance to read.  Davies
responds to some of the questions.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
   bob brigante wrote:
   
   ... teach TM to parents, who can then get their kids to start.
   Ignorant parents naturally tend to circle the wagons
   when they think their kids are in danger from some foreign 
element,
   and there is no sense trying to fight that...
  
  except that in this case, the alarmed parent already
  had been part of the TM Org, and she spoke with that 
  authority of negative personal experience.
  
  i bet there are alot of disappointed ex-TMO parents
  out there ... as demonstrated by the extreme lack of
  response to the urgent need to come to fairfield now.
 
 
 What can you expect with Rajas, Vedic America and crowns. 
 It screams of a lack of cultural integrity. These things will be
 brought up everytime TM is brought up in a public setting.
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj


On Oct 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, off_world_beings wrote:Macs used to be better than PC's and faster and nicer, up until  about the year 2002, 'specially for large file graphics operations.  Now they are shite by comparison. I had a friend with a brand new  Mac expensive laptop, and I kept going on about how Macs are awful  and always freezing and crashing under duress, whereas my Toshiba  never freezes. My friend denied all thisthen not long after my  friend's Mac crashed and was at the doctors for 2 weeks. My Toshiba  has had just about as much abuse as you can give a computer (except  for in Shemp's case when he is dribbling and squirting all ove the  place on it :-), and it has never had a problem and deals with my  graphic design work no problem. Macs are slow. I'm guessing you're thinking of Mac OS 9. Mac OS X, UNIX based, has never crashed for me--and I've been using it since it was a public beta. My Windoze machine on the other hand...The new Macs are now all on Intel processors and run as fast or faster than their Wintel counterparts. And they even now run Windows at native speed. Even better, since you don't have all the issues (spyware, etc.) of Windows, you can now run Windows apps without the Windows operating system thanks to an open source project called WINE. Pretty cool. No viruses, no spyware, no Microsoft.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj


On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bhairitu" noozguru@ wrote: There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.  For me, the ability to play *any* type of online multimedia is of primary importance, and I don't trust Linux or even a Mac to handle all Windows Media Player content. I recently switched from Win2000 to XP only because I started encountering too many sites requiring WMP 10, which is not available for Win2000.   Heh. How's WMP at MPEG-4 content?  Dunno. Don't care. I use Zoom Player and Quicktime for viewing most downloaded files.  And I'll match the formats supported by QuickTime vs the formats supported by WMP any day of the week.  That's all very nice, but if you hit a website that requires WMP 10 in order to play embedded streaming video, Quicktime is going to sit there, not doing a goddamn thing. I started coming across websites that wouldn't work with WMP 9 in Win2000, not even with IE; I had to fire up the XP laptop to see the embedded content. And, even with WMP 10 on XP, I sometimes have to load a site in IE because it won't work in Firefox.  I now use a Quicktime plugin called Flip4Mac, which not only allows me access to all those Window Media files online, but also allows me to encode any QT file as a .wmv file or .wma file. Pretty nice.http://www.flip4mac.com/Since Internet Explorer will run at native speed now on Macs, it's kind of a moot point for Mac users with current systems. Not sure if anyone got it to work yet without the Windows OS (in WINE for Mac), but once they do, there's no reason to switch back. In fact I suspect with the advent of Vista, you'll see huge numbers of people coming back to the Mac OS, currently more of a Mercedes of OS's: it's the best, but only for the few.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about Bevan's pundit housing claims

2006-10-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 10/13/06 4:25 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   Bevan says:
   
   As you know, the Vastu campus previously constructed in Maharishi
   Vedic  City by Raja Wynne and Maureen is now completely occupied by
   participants  in the Mother Divine program.
   
   In what way would the 100 ladies of the MD program be completely
   occupying a campus built for 500 pundits?
   
 
 
  Because MD ladies don¹t want to be packed in like sardines the way the
  pundits would have been.
 
 
 ***
 
 Well, the point is, if you are going to build some new housing in VC, 
 then the obvious first step would be to first build housing designed to 
 put the 100 MD members into single rooms, which would instantly give 
 you 500 rooms for pundits when the MD moves out (and it's just 
 absolutely ridiculous to talk about MD being disturbed by having to 
 make the short move to new housing in VC -- they seem to have survived 
 the move from Boone in good order). Since the housing that MD occupies 
 was built for the pundits, if the pundits are indeed coming, then why 
 aren't they going into the housing they were designed for? It's just a 
 waste, since the pundit housing cost about two million and change, but 
 housing the 100 MD in manufactured boxes should only cost about a 
 million.
 
 It may be that they don't want to solicit funds to build for MD because 
 they are less popular than the pundits, but whatever the reasoning, 
 it's horseshit not to use available housing that will hold 500 pundits.

The number of rooms you get on MD depends primarily on the amount of
your sponsorship.  Top ladies are 2 to a trailer, which would have
held 16 pundits.  You can say this is a waste of money/space, but
these top ladies bring in mucho money each month.  The lowest ladies
get 2 rooms and even that is considered a downsizing from what they
had in Boone.  No way all MD would go into single rooms as that would
destroy the multi-tiered feudal/aristocratic social pecking order that
has evolved there over the years -- chaos would erupt.

I'm curious about the new pundit trailers that are said to have vedic
proportions as I think they're still working on getting the unused
FEMA trailers in Ark.  Wow, Bush is giving away 11,000 vedic trailers
in an enlightened attempt to improve the situation in Iraq, no doubt.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 14, 2006, at 7:58 AM, authfriend wrote:

 And I'm pretty sure I've made it quite clear here
 what you really are: shallow, dishonest, vicious,
 ego-ridden, pretentious, pompous, and hypocritical,

But other than that, he's a terrific person, right? :)

 just for starters.  You're also often delusionary,
 and you're wrenchingly profoundly attached to your
 own point of view, unable to tolerate perspectives
 that differ from yours.  You have an elaborate set
 of inflexible rules about how others should think
 and behave, accompanied by an equally elaborate set
 of fantasies about how they *do* think and behave.

IOW, he's a--gasp--typical TMer!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna said: Of the PA amp systems, I am Bose

2006-10-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
I always enjoyed Krishna's West Coast rapper bragging about being the
highest and best of everything.  The sound from this system and is
omni-directional, which makes the sound the same volume everywhere in
the room which is pretty godlike.  Mostly I was making a lame attempt
to ad spiritual relevance to my mundane materialistic post!  But if
you do solo work this system delivers like the big guy himself, if he
existed!


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 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  For all musicians: I just got this Bose PA
  system:http://www.bose.com/controller?
 event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENTurl=/musicians/index.jspck=0
  
  Off the charts.  Fantastic sound though the whole room.  Email me if
  you want more details.  I am blown away.  Hare Krishna
 
 
 Never thought about it in that connection, but
 I believe Bose (baw-say) is a rather common Hindu
 family name. (Bose-Einstein -condensate?).






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Re: [FairfieldLife] IAM?

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] IAM?





on 10/14/06 4:44 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anybody tried Amma's meditation? 

I am a trained teacher of it and have been practicing it regularly for several years. Info on it http://www.amma.org/events/iam.html and other sites. Ill be happy to answer questions if you have any. I practice it once a day in the evening, before my TM-style meditation using Ammas mantra. The latter is always more profound if I do IAM first.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 On Oct 14, 2006, at 7:58 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  And I'm pretty sure I've made it quite clear here
  what you really are: shallow, dishonest, vicious,
  ego-ridden, pretentious, pompous, and hypocritical,
 
 But other than that, he's a terrific person, right? :)

Somewhere in there, underneath all the pretense and 
the multilayered armor, is a perfectly nice human
being.  It actually sneaks out through the cracks and
makes an appearance once in a blue moon before he can
get it shoved back inside again.

Somewhere along the line, Barry became convinced that
perfectly nice person was unacceptable, Not Nearly Good
Enough.  Somebody did a really brutal brainwashing job
on him.  Ever since, Barry has been compelled to project
a different, special person, an invulnerable person
who didn't need to be acceptable to anyone or
accountable for anything.

But that special person is a fake through and through,
and all the nastiness and hostility is a function of the
fact that deep down inside, the perfectly nice person
Barry keeps so well hidden is hideously ashamed of the
pretense.

  just for starters.  You're also often delusionary,
  and you're wrenchingly profoundly attached to your
  own point of view, unable to tolerate perspectives
  that differ from yours.  You have an elaborate set
  of inflexible rules about how others should think
  and behave, accompanied by an equally elaborate set
  of fantasies about how they *do* think and behave.
 
 IOW, he's a--gasp--typical TMer!

He's exactly like the True Believers he so compulsively
dumps on.  But those TBs are mostly a figment of his
imagination.  They're what he's *afraid* he's really
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[FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)

2006-10-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Vaj wrote:

 I suspect  
 with the advent of Vista, you'll see huge numbers of people coming  
 back to the Mac OS

Vaj, what makes you say this? ^ Just curious.

 - a happy Macintosh user forced to use Windows at the office




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scandal hits Gangaji

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scandal hits Gangaji





on 10/12/06 5:10 PM, abutilon108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had been quite captivated by her for some time, but finally came to
feel that she had a way of producing experiences in people which they
took for awakening. Of course, everyone has a different idea of
what awakening is, and I do also wonder what Rick meant when he said
people had awakened with her (and also what evidence there is for that
awakening.) 

Im just going by what a few friends have told me, the Nick Wolfe tape Tom Traynor referred to, Amber Terrells book, etc. I have no first-hand experience with her. I think there are many levels of awakening, some permanent, some not. I have no idea what she is able to trigger in people. That probably depends a lot on them. But she strikes me as a good, sincere person who has uplifted many. Just one of many making a contribution. Take what you need and leave the rest.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rush Limbaugh voted worst person in the world

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rush Limbaugh voted worst person in the world





on 10/11/06 10:10 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Comedian Rush Limbaugh has been voted Worst person in the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8nSk7_a1Amode=relatedsearch= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8nSk7_a1Aamp;mode=relatedamp;search= 

Yet another famous TM practitioner wins an award.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Pilot program for TM into a California high school, sponsored 
by 
  Lynch:
   
   http://www.marinij.com/ci_4486015
  
  
  
  Of course.
  
  This is going to happen everywhere the TMO tries to implement TM 
into 
  schools.
  
  Why waste time and money trying?
 
 
 Well its sad when a few adults acting like 3 year olds are able to
 shut down a meeting.  That does not necessarily mean that the 
school
 district will aquiese to be puppets of three-year olds. It will be
 interesting to see how this unfolds.

Yea, those ex-hippie baby-boomers just don't get it. You can't act 
like that and expect to be taken seriously. In fact she will just 
make her case weaker and seem like a nutter (kinda looks like Ann 
Coulter in the picture, no?)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rush Limbaugh voted worst person in the world

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/11/06 10:10 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Comedian Rush Limbaugh has been voted Worst person in the world
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8nSk7_a1Amode=relatedsearch=
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=yC8nSk7_a1Aamp;mode=relatedamp;search=
  
 Yet another famous TM practitioner wins an award.

Oh sure, he practices diligently :-O

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[FairfieldLife] Re: IAM?

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/14/06 4:44 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Has anybody tried Amma's meditation?
  
 I am a trained teacher of it and have been practicing it regularly 
for
 several years. Info on it http://www.amma.org/events/iam.html and 
other
 sites. I¹ll be happy to answer questions if you have any. I 
practice it once
 a day in the evening, before my TM-style meditation using Amma¹s 
mantra. The
 latter is always more profound if I do IAM first.

How long was the training?

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[FairfieldLife] Elitism

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
What's wrong with being elitist, if you are trying to encourage people 
to join the elite rather than being exclusive? 

--Richard Dawkins





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits Arriving: Nat'l Call

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   1,000  Vedic Pandits.  Therefore, now is the time
  for all of you who 
   have who so kindly  pledged to support the Vedic
  Pandits when they 
   arrive to quickly fulfill  your commitment.
  
  So this is a--gasp--plug for $$?  Who would have
  thought.
  
  Sal
 
 CHRIST ON A CRUTCH DOES IT NEVER F*CKING END???
 THE BALLS ON THESE PEOPLE!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BURN IN
 HELL. F*CKING ASSHOLES!!! 


http://www.state.sd.us/dhs/MCN/psytreat.htm

Good luck
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj


That's what some pundits are predicting because many people will have to buy new Pee Cees to run it, upgraders will pay close to 300 bucks and many are just tired of the Spyware issues and so on which will surely follow Vista. It's said to be a fairly different UI that many hardcore Wintel people may not tolerate. Also people's experience with iTunes and the iPod will help them also understand that they can easily do just about anything (DVD creation, websites, etc.) with similar ease, all with Apple software that comes on all Macs nowadays.See:http://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/c0611/44c11/44c11.aspguid=8CF5E5CB35CB42E1857F6F42970E2A2COn Oct 14, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote:  I suspect   with the advent of Vista, you'll see huge numbers of people coming   back to the Mac OS  Vaj, what makes you say this? ^ Just curious.   - a happy Macintosh user forced to use Windows at the office 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj


On Oct 14, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Vaj wrote:That's what some pundits are predicting because many people will have to buy new Pee Cees to run it, upgraders will pay close to 300 bucks and many are just tired of the Spyware issues and so on which will surely follow Vista. It's said to be a fairly different UI that many hardcore Wintel people may not tolerate. Also people's experience with iTunes and the iPod will help them also understand that they can easily do just about anything (DVD creation, websites, etc.) with similar ease, all with Apple software that comes on all Macs nowadays.See:http://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/c0611/44c11/44c11.aspguid=8CF5E5CB35CB42E1857F6F42970E2A2Chttp://flaslumn.notlong.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Ok, we get it. Either your past life memory is
  fuzzy or you don't want to talk about your time
  as an Inquisitor. 
  
  However, just out of curiosity, you keep calling
  me a 'phony.' A phony *what*?
  
  I've always found 'phony,' used as a noun, to be
  a lazy kinda weasel word. The word implies that
  the person it's aimed at is pretending to be some-
  thing he is not,

preserved because it relates to the response below
 
 Exactly.  It's usually used to describe someone
 to an audience that is familiar with the persona
 that person presents, so the audience already knows
 the what that is being described as phony...
 
  but what *exactly* is it that you
  think I'm pretending to be.
 
 ...so the missing piece in He's a phony isn't
 what the person is pretending to be--since the
 audience knows what that is--but what he really
 *is*.
 
 And I'm pretty sure I've made it quite clear here
 what you really are: shallow, dishonest, vicious,
 ego-ridden, pretentious, pompous, and hypocritical,
 just for starters.  You're also often delusionary,
 and you're wrenchingly profoundly attached to your
 own point of view, unable to tolerate perspectives
 that differ from yours.  You have an elaborate set
 of inflexible rules about how others should think
 and behave, accompanied by an equally elaborate set
 of fantasies about how they *do* think and behave.

Thanks for your reply. I'm ignoring it pretty much
completely because I don't really care what you 
believe I'm pretending to be. Like Popeye, I yam 
what I yam. You are welcome to to your ideas about 
how best to serve yams; I prefer them with a cherry 
and maple sugar sauce.  :-)

I was allowing you to vent. You seemed to need to.

Besides, I just wanted to see if you were still silly 
enough to jump when I asked you to jump. :-)

Also, I was a little curious as the arguments you'd
use in your response because your recent use of the 
word 'phony,' and in a thread that had just mentioned 
Torquemada, reminded me that I had recently read a 
passage about the use of that very technique. It was 
in the Practica Inquisitionis, Bernardo Gui's 1323 
manual for Inquisitors.

In it, he instructs the aspiring Inquisitor in the
ways of dealing with a heretic. The stupid ones you 
can safely bring to trial, but if you find one who 
is somewhat clever or well-spoken, and he starts being 
clever in front of the faithful (who might be swayed
by his words and begin to doubt the all-powerful 
nature of the Inquisition), you should immediately
shift your strategy and begin to undermine his 
credibility. In other words, you should call the 
heretic names, but (and this is the interesting part 
given the context of your use of the term 'phony') 
hazy names, not specific names.

The word he recommends is 'faux,' false. Its use
in his passages is similar to your use of the 
word 'phony.'

He specifically tells the young Inquisitor to
avoid saying *what* about the heretic is false.
The point is simply to call them false, over 
and over and over, to make sure that the audience 
of the faithful begins to associate that word, and 
no other, with the particular heretic. 

Sound familiar?

(By the way, he even includes a section on how to
repond if someone asks you, The heretic in question
is a false *what*? He recommends that you say, You
all *know* the ways in which the heretic is false.
You have seen him with your own eyes. As a result,
I find your reply fairly hilarious. Thanks.)

You use another technique that is straight out of
Gui's manual for Inquisitors, calling people liars.
Ooops, sorry...I got the spelling wrong: LIARS.  :-)

The point again is to *associate* that word with
the heretic in the minds of the audience. Gui
suggests that they specifically use this word when
challenged by a heretic on matters of FAITH or 
BELIEF. The idea is to make the point that anyone
who deviates from the dogma as defined by the
Inquisition is not just wrong. They *know* the 
real Truth, and are attempting to spread heresy
by LYING about it, and claiming to believe some-
thing else.

I'm just bringing these points up for your edification
and for possible use in your own self discovery. I
mean, the more I read about the Inquisition, the more
it becomes obvious (to me, anyway) that you may have
done time there. You might want to consider doing a 
past-life regression and trying to recover some actual 
memories of those lifetimes. 

Having flashes from past lives is fun, a bit like
watching a movie. And, as with movies, sometimes it's
just a pleasant diversion and sometimes you actually
learn something. In your case, watching a movie of
your Inquisitorial past might enable you overcome some
present-day samskaras by becoming aware of what caused 
them in the past. And even if it doesn't, you'll get to 
watch the torture scenes again.  :-)






To 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAM?

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAM?





on 10/14/06 10:49 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/14/06 4:44 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  Has anybody tried Amma's meditation?
  
 I am a trained teacher of it and have been practicing it regularly 
for
 several years. Info on it http://www.amma.org/events/iam.html and 
other
 sites. Ill be happy to answer questions if you have any. I 
practice it once
 a day in the evening, before my TM-style meditation using Ammas 
mantra. The
 latter is always more profound if I do IAM first.

How long was the training?

Not long. Just a few meetings. When I teach it (and Ive only co-taught one course) I read from notes so as not to forget anything. But not too many have been trained as teachers, although there are 4 in FF. In other words, theres no effort to train thousands of teachers.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 On Oct 14, 2006, at 7:58 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  And I'm pretty sure I've made it quite clear here
  what you really are: shallow, dishonest, vicious,
  ego-ridden, pretentious, pompous, and hypocritical,
 
 But other than that, he's a terrific person, right? :)
 
  just for starters.  You're also often delusionary,
  and you're wrenchingly profoundly attached to your
  own point of view, unable to tolerate perspectives
  that differ from yours.  You have an elaborate set
  of inflexible rules about how others should think
  and behave, accompanied by an equally elaborate set
  of fantasies about how they *do* think and behave.
 
 IOW, he's a--gasp--typical TMer!

Low blow. I am offended. 

:-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just as a very recent example of how you are not
 what you pretend to be, in your immediately previous
 post addressing me, you wrote:
 
 You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
 desire to *ever* deal with your 'points' or
 have any kind of real interaction with you.
 
 Yet here you are, only one post later, interacting
 with me.

And completely on my own terms, ignoring your 
arguments completely, using your words only
when they provide a fun springboard for what 
*I* feel like talking about. Exactly as I said
I enjoy doing in the post you quote from. Or 
hadn't you noticed that? 

What *I* felt like talking about was how uncanny
it is that the techniques you use to start and
perpetuate arguments here were described so 
perfectly 683 years ago in a manual teaching
religious fanatics how to be an effective member
of the Inquisition. *That* fascinates me, cycles
repeating themselves in successive incarnations.

For the record, you don't. Don't take it too
personally...you were probably able to capture
people's attention more effectively with a hot
branding iron in your hand.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread gimari03
The school district already approved it!

Does anyone have a copy of 9th and 10th mandala of Rig Veda?
I gave mine away long long ago.

Also, how about a copy of the pic of Guru Dev used for pujas?

The article in Paris w/ the photos of Rajas,etc?

Can contact me either through Rick Archer, or by clicking onto 'send email' on 
the right 
side of this post, when you are signed into the yahoo group (vs reading in your 
basic 
inbox)

My kids attended the HS chosen for this pilot project!  ugh!
I was raised in TM - next 'kid' after Tina and Teresa Olson a founding 
member of MIU in 
Sta Barbara and FF.  The meeting was shut down before I could describe the puja 
and 
potential downside to  teenagers, as well as the slow persuasive recruitment of 
the kids 
that will happen w/ this TM club up and downside.  

Writing my letter to the editor today.. describing 7 states of consciouness, 
sidhis etc.

IMHO, folks can do what they want.  But sponsored by the public schools?  In my 
backyard?  I don't think so.

MSAE grads STILL find their way to my home (grapevine) saying How do I 
function in the 
real world?  Three more are arriving next week.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well its sad when a few adults acting like 3 year olds are able to
 shut down a meeting.  That does not necessarily mean that the school
 district will aquiese to be puppets of three-year olds. It will be
 interesting to see how this unfolds.






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[FairfieldLife] Amma's Fall US tour details

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
http://amma.org/tours/amma-tours/n_america.html




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting Hagelin factoid

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In 1994 Hagelin was the recipient of an Ig Nobel Prize,
 which is for achievements that cannot, or should not,
 be reproduced, i.e., for pseudoscience.

Following is a list of the 2006 Ig Noble Prize
winners; the awards were given on October 5.

Note that these are all for entirely legitimate
scientific studies.  The studies may be trivial,
or ridiculous sounding, or useless; their results
and/or conclusions may even turn not out to be
valid.

But they aren't pseudoscience.

For that matter, Hagelin's D.C. study may in fact
be pseudoscience.  But you can't say so based on his
having received an Ig Noble Prize. Achievements
that cannot or should not be reproduced (Ig Noble's
own tongue-in-cheek definition of what the the
awards are given for) are not other words for
pseudoscience.

2006 Ig Noble Prize Winners:

ORNITHOLOGY-
Ivan R. Schwab, of University of California Davis, and the late
Philip R.A. May of the University of California Los Angeles, for
exploring and explaining why woodpeckers don't get headaches.

NUTRITION-
Wasmia Al-Houty of Kuwait University and Faten Al-Mussalam of the
Kuwait Environment Public Authority, for showing that dung beetles
are finicky eaters.

PEACE-
Howard Stapleton of Merthyr Tydfil, Wales, for inventing an
electromechanical teenager repellant -- a device that makes
annoying noise designed to be audible to teenagers but not to
adults; and for later using that same technology to make telephone
ringtones that are audible to teenagers but not to their teachers.

ACOUSTICS-
D. Lynn Halpern (of Harvard Vanguard Medical Associates, and
Brandeis University, and Northwestern University), Randolph Blake
(of Vanderbilt University and Northwestern University) and James
Hillenbrand (of Western Michigan University and Northwestern
University) for conducting experiments to learn why people dislike
the sound of fingernails scraping on a blackboard.

MATHEMATICS-
Nic Svenson and Piers Barnes of the Australian Commonwealth
Scientific and Research Organization, for calculating the number
of photographs you must take to (almost) ensure that nobody in a
group photo will have their eyes closed.

LITERATURE-
Daniel Oppenheimer of Princeton University for his report
Consequences of Erudite Vernacular Utilized Irrespective of
Necessity: Problems with Using Long Words Needlessly.

MEDICINE-
Francis M. Fesmire of the University of Tennessee College of
Medicine, for his medical case report Termination of Intractable
Hiccups with Digital Rectal Massage; and Majed Odeh, Harry
Bassan, and Arie Oliven of Bnai Zion Medical Center, Haifa,
Israel, for their subsequent medical case report also titled
Termination of Intractable Hiccups with Digital Rectal Massage.

PHYSICS-
Basile Audoly and Sebastien Neukirch of the Université Pierre et
Marie Curie, in Paris, for their insights into why, when you bend
dry spaghetti, it often breaks into more than two pieces.

CHEMISTRY-
Antonio Mulet, José Javier Benedito and José Bon of the University
of Valencia, Spain, and Carmen Rosselló of the University of Illes
Balears, in Palma de Mallorca, Spain,  for their study Ultrasonic
Velocity in Cheddar Cheese as Affected by Temperature.

BIOLOGY-
Bart Knols (of Wageningen Agricultural University, in Wageningen,
the Netherlands; and of the National Institute for Medical
Research, in Ifakara Centre, Tanzania, and of the International
Atomic Energy Agency, in Vienna Austria) and Ruurd de Jong (of
Wageningen Agricultural University and of Santa Maria degli
Angeli, Italy) for showing that the female malaria mosquito
Anopheles gambiae is attracted equally to the smell of limburger
cheese and to the smell of human feet.

--From Mini-Air, a free [email] newsletter of
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Elitism

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What's wrong with being elitist, if you are trying to encourage 
people 
 to join the elite rather than being exclusive? 
 
 --Richard Dawkins

Why just people? 
Many non-humans in human clothing are on earth that try to join the 
elite club. They should be barred from it.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)





on 10/14/06 11:36 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Oct 14, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Vaj wrote:

That's what some pundits are predicting because many people will have to buy new Pee Cees to run it, upgraders will pay close to 300 bucks and many are just tired of the Spyware issues and so on which will surely follow Vista. It's said to be a fairly different UI that many hardcore Wintel people may not tolerate. Also people's experience with iTunes and the iPod will help them also understand that they can easily do just about anything (DVD creation, websites, etc.) with similar ease, all with Apple software that comes on all Macs nowadays.

See:

http://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/c0611/44c11/44c11.aspguid=8CF5E5CB35CB42E1857F6F42970E2A2C http://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/c0611/44c11/44c11.aspguid=8CF5E5CB35CB42E1857F6F42970E2A2C 


http://flaslumn.notlong.com

Interesting article for me, as Im considering owing only a PC after 21 years of Mac ownership. Ive owned both for several years, and I switch back and forth all day long with a KVM switch. But I need a PC because so many SEO software packages run only on the PC, and there are few if any things I do on the Mac which I couldnt do as well on the PC. An Intel-based Mac would be cool, and I could switch back and forth with that, either by rebooting, with Boot Camp, or without rebooting, with Parallels, but why bother? I could get a lot of PC for the same $$ or less. I have a friend who works at Microsoft who can get me Vista, Office, etc. cheap. Im open to arguments against this decision.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  snip
   There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for
   prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.
  
  I can't remember how many years ago it was that I
  started hearing, Linux is *almost* ready for prime
  time...
 
 The current MacOS is derived from NeXT OS which was ready 
 for prime time more than 10 years ago.

And which was part of one of the biggest software/
hardware failures in history.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Scandal hits Gangaji

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/12/06 5:10 PM, abutilon108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I had been quite captivated by her for some time, but finally 
  came to feel that she had a way of producing experiences in 
  people which they took for awakening.  Of course, everyone 
  has a different idea of what awakening is, and I do also wonder 
  what Rick meant when he said people had awakened with her (and 
  also what evidence there is for that awakening.)  
 
 I¹m just going by what a few friends have told me, the Nick 
 Wolfe tape Tom Traynor referred to, Amber Terrell¹s book, etc. 
 I have no first-hand experience with her. I think there are 
 many levels of awakening, some permanent, some not. I have no 
 idea what she is able to trigger in people.

I have to quibble language here, having had a short
(two days) interaction with her. At least at that
time, she was adamant that she does *nothing* to
trigger awakening in those who sit satsang with
her. That is, she doesn't zap them with kundalini
or darshan or flying woo woo rays or any of the 
things that lazy seekers would like teachers to do.
She's just good at interacting with the seeker to
point out the realization that is already present.

That said, the awakening that many experience is
often temporary. I don't consider that a bad thing,
because it later becomes permanent as they become
more comfortable with their own realization.

 That probably depends a lot on them. But she strikes me as 
 a good, sincere person who has uplifted many. Just one of 
 many making a contribution. Take what you need and leave 
 the rest.

Yup. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 (By the way, he even includes a section on how to
 repond if someone asks you, The heretic in question
 is a false *what*? He recommends that you say, You
 all *know* the ways in which the heretic is false.
 You have seen him with your own eyes. As a result,
 I find your reply fairly hilarious. Thanks.)

I think you most likely made this up, but even if
it's authentic, it doesn't apply; because, as you
know all too well, I've been *very* specific in
many posts about the ways in which you are a phony,
including *both* what you really are *and* what you
pretend to be--entirely unlike your inquisitor, real
or imaginary.

I hope your pretend laughter makes your pretend self
feel better.  The real self underneath all the phony
garbage, however, is weeping.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I used to agreee wholeheartedly that Windows was buggy, but I 
 typically use both XP home and XP Pro every day all day, and they 
 *never* crash or freeze- Of course I just run biz software on them 
 and well known apps, so no processor intensive gaming or anything...

I compile, debug and run computationally intensive and 
sometimes still in development and thus about as likely
to cause a crash as anything possibly could be. I have
been completely unable to crash Windows XP. Previous
Windoze releases, I could crash at will. But XP is 
actually pretty solid.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lords of Light

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Just as a very recent example of how you are not
  what you pretend to be, in your immediately previous
  post addressing me, you wrote:
  
  You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
  desire to *ever* deal with your 'points' or
  have any kind of real interaction with you.
  
  Yet here you are, only one post later, interacting
  with me.
 
 And completely on my own terms, ignoring your 
 arguments completely, using your words only
 when they provide a fun springboard for what 
 *I* feel like talking about. Exactly as I said
 I enjoy doing in the post you quote from. Or 
 hadn't you noticed that?

*Now* you're making a brave if unsucessful attempt
to do it, but, of course, you weren't in the post
I was responding to; you were interacting on *my*
terms.

Caught in the act, you had to change course so as to
try to escape  accountability for your hypocrisy.

You can't rebut the charge of phoniness with more
phoniness; they don't somehow cancel each other out,
much as you might wish it.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perhaps it would be best if...

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
   wrote:
   
On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 Judy, has it ever occurred to you that adults don't tell other
 adults
 what they'd like you to do?  That it's usually up to the 
 person to
 decide for him/herself what is best?  I guess not.

 Some people are only comfortable in a situation in
 which they are constantly told what to do and what
 not to do. After thirty years or so of this, they
 aspire not to enlightenment but to telling other
 people what to do and what not to do.  :-)

Exactly.  Condescension becomes a way of life, and if you can't 
beat em, join em, I guess.

It's very doubtful Judy would put up with the manipulation in 
the TMO were it to really occur with anyone else, with any 
frequency at all.  She'd simply find a new doctor, dentist or 
whatever.  But it's impossible to admit she's been taken in all 
these years.
   
   Bingo.
   
   I really do think that that's the issue. She (and
   many others) have a fairly fixed sense of self.
   When it's challenged, and someone sees them differ-
   ently, they feel the need to defend that imaginary
   fixed self. And one of the things that a fixed self
   *hates* to do is admit that it may have been stupid.  :-)
   
   Those of us who are a little more fluid, and who are
   used to laughing at ourselves (our selves, however
   temporary and imaginary they may be) are often more
   able to kick back and say, Yup...I sure got taken
   to the cleaners on that one.
  
  You do realize, Barry, don't you, that none of what
  you've been saying has anything at all to do with
  the point I made, right?  
 
 You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
 desire to *ever* deal with your points or
 have any kind of real interaction with you.
 They are at best jumping off points for what
 *we* want to talk about. We have no interest
 whatsoever in talking about what *you* want
 to talk about. :-)


IOW, you merely use FFL to foster the illussion of being willing to discuss 
things in an 
adult manner...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  I never have understood the Steve Jobs fan club that much.  
 
 It's a lot like the way the people here who have never
 met Maharishi or been in the same room with him revere
 him. If you had (I have, with both), you wouldn't feel 
 quite the same way about them.
 
 Distance from the object of reverence increases the
 ability to feel the reverence.


Heh. RDF (reality distortion field, aka Steve Jobs) has his moments. He's not a 
likeable person 
in person, from most accounts.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Those 600,000 dead

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Pinning Civilian Deaths on the Great Satan  
  By Mark D. Tooley
  FrontPageMagazine.com | October 13, 2006
  
  A British medical journal is once again inflating the number of 
  Iraqis killed during the U.S.-led liberation of that country...
 
 No, it isn't. It is using, in good faith, one statistical method 
 which has its pros and cons. It is here: http://www.thelancet.com/
 and is a pretty mature and sensible publication.
 
 Another method is to count whatever headless corpses come to light
 in the streets of Baghdad after the night's killings. Is this a 
 better study?
 Uns.


BTW, the Lancet is the most presitigious scientific journal in the world, IIRC. 
Ranks above 
Nature and Science and JAMA.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about Bevan's pundit housing claims

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
  Bevan says:
 
  As you know, the Vastu campus previously constructed in Maharishi
  Vedic  City by Raja Wynne and Maureen is now completely occupied by
  participants  in the Mother Divine program.
 
  In what way would the 100 ladies of the MD program be completely
  occupying a campus built for 500 pundits?
 
 They need lots of room for their expanded awareness.

Or their egos.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
Yo! It is a club with non-school sponsorship. All the school furnishes is 
space, as far as I 
can tell. Are you able to block Christian clubs where prayers are held outside 
class hours?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The school district already approved it!
 
 Does anyone have a copy of 9th and 10th mandala of Rig Veda?
 I gave mine away long long ago.
 
 Also, how about a copy of the pic of Guru Dev used for pujas?
 
 The article in Paris w/ the photos of Rajas,etc?
 
 Can contact me either through Rick Archer, or by clicking onto 'send email' 
 on the right 
 side of this post, when you are signed into the yahoo group (vs reading in 
 your basic 
 inbox)
 
 My kids attended the HS chosen for this pilot project!  ugh!
 I was raised in TM - next 'kid' after Tina and Teresa Olson a founding 
 member of MIU 
in 
 Sta Barbara and FF.  The meeting was shut down before I could describe the 
 puja and 
 potential downside to  teenagers, as well as the slow persuasive recruitment 
 of the kids 
 that will happen w/ this TM club up and downside.  
 
 Writing my letter to the editor today.. describing 7 states of consciouness, 
 sidhis etc.
 
 IMHO, folks can do what they want.  But sponsored by the public schools?  In 
 my 
 backyard?  I don't think so.
 
 MSAE grads STILL find their way to my home (grapevine) saying How do I 
 function in the 
 real world?  Three more are arriving next week.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
  
  Well its sad when a few adults acting like 3 year olds are able to
  shut down a meeting.  That does not necessarily mean that the school
  district will aquiese to be puppets of three-year olds. It will be
  interesting to see how this unfolds.
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   snip
There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for
prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.
   
   I can't remember how many years ago it was that I
   started hearing, Linux is *almost* ready for prime
   time...
  
  The current MacOS is derived from NeXT OS which was ready 
  for prime time more than 10 years ago.
 
 And which was part of one of the biggest software/
 hardware failures in history.  :-)



YOu mean, like the internet and Doom?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   I never have understood the Steve Jobs fan club that much.  
  
  It's a lot like the way the people here who have never
  met Maharishi or been in the same room with him revere
  him. If you had (I have, with both), you wouldn't feel 
  quite the same way about them.
  
  Distance from the object of reverence increases the
  ability to feel the reverence.
 
 Heh. RDF (reality distortion field, aka Steve Jobs) has 
 his moments. He's not a likeable person 
 in person, from most accounts.

That may be the first time I've seen you use
understatement. :-)







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[FairfieldLife] The Dictatorship Is Upon Us

2006-10-14 Thread geezerfreak

Criticizing Cheney to His Face Is Assault?
By Matthew Rothschild

October 4, 2006

Steve Howards says he used to fantasize about what he'd say to President
Bush or Vice President Cheney if he ever got the chance.

That opportunity arrived on June 16, the same day he says he read about
U.S. fatalities in Iraq reaching 2,500.

Howards says he was taking two of his kids to their Suzuki piano camp in
Beaver Creek, Colorado. They were walking across the outdoor public mall
area when all of a sudden he saw Cheney there.

I didn't even know he was in town, Howards says. He was walking
through the area shaking hands. Initially, I walked past him. Then I
said to myself, 'I can't in good conscience let this opportunity pass
by.' So I approached him, I got about two feet away, and I said in a
very calm tone of voice, 'Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible.' And
then I walked away.

Howards says he knew the Administration has a history of making
problems for people who protest its policies, so he wanted to leave off
at that.

But the Secret Service did not take kindly to his comment.About ten
minutes later, I came back through the mall with my eight-year-old son
in tow, Howards recalls, and this Secret Service man came out of the
shadows, and his exact words were, 'Did you assault the Vice President?' 

Here's how Howards says he responded: No, but I did tell Mr. Cheney the
way I felt about the war in Iraq, and if Mr. Cheney wants to be shielded
from public criticism, he should avoid public places. If exercising my
constitutional rights to free speech is against the law, then you should
arrest me.

Which is just what the agent, Virgil D. Gus Reichle Jr, proceeded to do.

He grabbed me and cuffed my hands behind my back in the presence of my
eight-year-old son and told me I was being charged with assault of the
Vice President,Howards recalls.

He says he told the agent, I can't abandon my eight-year-old son in a
public mall.

According to Howards, Reichle responded: We'll call Social Services.
Before that could happen, however, my son ran away and found my wife,
who was nearby, Howards says.

First of all, I was scared, Howard recalls. They wouldn't tell my
wife where they were taking me. Second of all, I was incredulous this
could be happening in the United States of America. This is what I read
about happening in Tiananmen Square. They hauled me away to Eagle County
jail and kept me with my hands cuffed behind my back for three hours.

At the jail, the charge against him was reduced to harassment, he says,
and he was released on $500 bond. The Eagle County DA's office
eventually dropped that charge.

On October 3, Howards sued Reichle for depriving him of his First
Amendment right of free speech and his Fourth Amendment right to be
protected from illegal seizure.

Howards and his attorney, David Lane, have not demanded a specific
dollar amount.

We will go to trial and let a Colorado jury decide what type of damages
are appropriate, says Howards.

This isn't about anything I did. This about what I said. There is a
frontal assault occurring on our constitutional right to free speech. We
brought this suit because of our belief that this Administration's
attempt to suppress free speech is a greater threat to the long-term
integrity of this nation than ten Osama bin Ladens.

Reichle did not return my call for comment. Nor did he respond to The
New York Times in its article on this incident.

Lon Garner, special agent in charge at the Secret Service's Denver
office, says he has no reaction to the lawsuit. It's in litigation,
he says. We have no comment.

Before his encounter with Cheney, Howards says he had a clean record.

I was never arrested before, he says. I don't have so much as a
speeding ticket. 


 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perhaps it would be best if...

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
  desire to *ever* deal with your points or
  have any kind of real interaction with you.
  They are at best jumping off points for what
  *we* want to talk about. We have no interest
  whatsoever in talking about what *you* want
  to talk about. :-)
 
 IOW, you merely use FFL to foster the illussion of 
 being willing to discuss things in an 
 adult manner...

Not at all. It's just that I *only* talk
to adults. Judy doesn't qualify, and often
you don't either. Many others do.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj


On Oct 14, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 10/14/06 11:36 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Oct 14, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Vaj wrote:That's what some pundits are predicting because many people will have to buy new Pee Cees to run it, upgraders will pay close to 300 bucks and many are just tired of the Spyware issues and so on which will surely follow Vista. It's said to be a fairly different UI that many hardcore Wintel people may not tolerate. Also people's experience with iTunes and the iPod will help them also understand that they can easily do just about anything (DVD creation, websites, etc.) with similar ease, all with Apple software that comes on all Macs nowadays.See:http://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/c0611/44c11/44c11.aspguid=8CF5E5CB35CB42E1857F6F42970E2A2Chttp://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/c0611/44c11/44c11.aspguid=8CF5E5CB35CB42E1857F6F42970E2A2C http://flaslumn.notlong.comInteresting article for me, as I’m considering owing only a PC after 21 years of Mac ownership. I’ve owned both for several years, and I switch back and forth all day long with a KVM switch. But I need a PC because so many SEO software packages run only on the PC, and there are few if any things I do on the Mac which I couldn’t do as well on the PC. An Intel-based Mac would be cool, and I could switch back and forth with that, either by rebooting, with Boot Camp, or without rebooting, with Parallels, but why bother? I could get a lot of PC for the same $$ or less. I have a friend who works at Microsoft who can get me Vista, Office, etc. cheap. I’m open to arguments against this decision.Actually the level of processing power on a Mac compared to say a Dell or other top PC will be the same or cheaper on the Mac. The price argument--along with the "no software on the Mac"--are all out the window (no pun intended), as numerous articles you can find will tell you. What many don't realize is that the BSD-flavor of UNIX that all the Macs run on these days, also runs literally thousands of open source apps that Linux users talk so much about. In fact all recent Mac's also include compilers, which when connected to an internet connection, can download source code, compile and include dependencies, etc. for ready to run apps. It really is amazing what they've been able to do. And also as WINE on the Mac improves (or maybe is included eventually by Apple) this will not only allow you to run Wintel apps, but you will be able to run them without the cursed Windows operating system.Of course if tons of people go over to Apple, hackers will just eventually start writing malware for that platform as well.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj


On Oct 14, 2006, at 2:38 AM, sparaig wrote: shrug. What's the fastest CPU on a toshiba? The fastest I could find at their website was a  2.0 duo core. The fastest MacBook Pro has a 2.16 duo core.  The older Mac laptops are based on an ancient  powerpc G4 design that is quite slow by  today's standards. IBM stopped conentrating on Apple-oriented processors because there  was more money in games consoles, so Apple switched their entire product line to Intel as  of this year. Unless your friend bought his in the past 6 months or so, his Mac laptop is at  least 5x as slow as the current Mac laptops. Exactly. And I believe similar in the desktop line.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum





on 10/14/06 11:48 AM, gimari03 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The school district already approved it!

I was thinking about what I would say if I were at that meeting. Since I'm not a black and white sort of guy, I would have to credit TM for getting me off drugs as a teenager and back into a wholesome lifestyle and awakening me to spiritual values, and I would admit that I practice a form of meditation to this day. But I believe that parents and students should have the whole picture. I would want them to consider 
that PR is the TMO's primary motivation for supporting scientific research, and research outcomes that don't suit that purpose are squelched.
that much of the money raised through course fees and donations in the West ends up being misappropriated my Maharishis Cosa Nostra in India.
the Hindu connection that youre focusing on
MMYs womanizing (which they may or may not consider relevant, but which reveals hypocrisy from the top down)
MMYs praise of Robert Mugabe, Fidel Castro, Ferdinand Marcos, etc.
many more things which could be listed here.

Having said all that, Id say that I still think that meditation, and even TM specifically would be good for many kids, as it was for me, but that they should be concerned that participation may lead kids into involvement with an organization of which they might approve if they were fully informed.

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[FairfieldLife] Tofu chicken and feeling lobster penises

2006-10-14 Thread shempmcgurk
(I wrote the following for my two brothers on the anniversay of my 
dad's passing)

So I was thinking of my father the other day, being that it was the 
first anniversary of his passing...and I thought you may be 
interested in this little anecdote. 
In the last 5 or 6 years of his life, even before he had his first 
stroke, I would cook for him when he came here in the winter, simply 
because he was getting on in years; I would cook for him here and 
his care-taker, of course, would cook for him back home in the 
summer. Breakfasts, though, were his exclusive domain...even after 
the stroke and, I assume right up to the last, life-ending stroke of 
last year he still made his breakfast of 11 grain cereal, a tomato, 
green pepper slices, cheese, and 5 olives. He'd cook the cereal on 
the stove, which was quite a feat for an 86-year-old.  I always 
expected the house to burn down but, to his credit, it never did.
Anyway, I would cook for him but never, ever knew whether he 
actually liked my cooking because he was more concerned as a father 
to give me positive reinforcement for my activity...so I never knew 
what the hell he liked when I made something. I always told him to 
be honest with me so that I knew what to make and not make for him 
but the feedback system never caught on; it was like dealing with a 
Japanese businessman who, as I understand from reading about them, 
never tell you their true feelings because their culture is never to 
insult their associates…so you always have to divine what they're 
thinking. Dad, I'm not a mind reader. Tell me if you don't like 
something. The best I could decipher was that the 
word interesting meant he hated it and superb was passable 
and absolutely superb meant he may actually try it again...but 
only once again. The man loved his platitudes and superlatives. 
Well, one of the things I knew with 100% certainty that he does like 
is seafood and, with the exception of my favourite -- sushi -- he 
likes all kinds of it. And the king of seafoods is lobster. The man 
loved his lobster. 
And you'd think that getting lobster out here in the desert would be 
a hard, expensive task but, thanks to the good people at Wal-Mart, 
it wasn't. For about $13.00 a pound you can have the near-minimum-
wage Wal-Mart fish-monger scoop out a live lobster in their holding 
tank and steam it there for you right on the premises. 
And did you know that there is a difference between male and female 
lobsters? Females have the roe or babies within them practically 
every time you open them up. My experience is that most people love 
the females for that reason; not Dad. He loved the males because he 
didn't want any little fetuses infringing upon any of his beloved 
lobster tail meat...and he also claimed that the male meat tastes 
better. 
So I learned about 20 years ago from him how to feel for the penis 
of a lobster. Yes, I'm not kidding. I got instructions from the man 
on how to pick up a lobster at the store, turn him over, and put my 
index finger on the double icky protrusions on the crustacean's 
underside -- two insect-like mini-extremities on each side of the 
underbelly. I know that if they came together in the middle like two 
swords crossing at the beginning of a joust that it was a male and 
if they just stayed on each side of the underbelly it was a female. 
But, oh no, visual inspection wasn't enough; you had to run your 
finger over the two digits and if they're hard, they're male; if 
not, they're female. 
It's a wonder I haven't needed major psychoanalysis. 
And I never got it right. Why? Because the turn-over of personnel at 
Wal-Mart, that's why (bear with me here because if I can show you a 
cause-effect relationship between the geo-economic hiring practices 
of Wal-Mart and the science of crustacean gender-determination I am 
an utter genius). 
You see, whoever works the fish tanks at Wal-Mart knows enough how 
to fish out the lobster you point at outside the tank, and knows how 
to steam them but doesn't know the secret of penis-feeling that 
had been handed down to me in a secret family ceremony. And I'm 
sorry, but I am too embarrassed to run my finger over lobster 
genitals in a busy Wal-Mart Superstore. And on top of that, every 
time the monger would fish out lobsters from the tank it would 
attract a crowd (I think Americans view any holding pen with live 
animals in it as a petting zoo). So there was no way I was going to 
stroke lobster penises in front of the monger, let alone the growing 
crowd of moms with tykes in strollers.  And, besides, I think 
there's a bylaw prohibiting inter-species fondling. 
But Dad was right: you do need to get down and dirty; visual 
inspection is not enough...you actually do have to feel for it. 
So half the lobsters I bought ended up being females and he would 
demand to know why I couldn't conduct the simple procedure he had 
painstakingly taught me in order to secure males.  I would meekly 
say that Wal-Mart had a 

[FairfieldLife] My Amritapuri Experience

2006-10-14 Thread faintglow



I keep a blog at:http://humbleworm.blogspot.com/It is a devotional travelogue of sorts, based on my visit to Amritapuri.Om Amriteshwaryai Namahfg

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's Fall US tour details

2006-10-14 Thread Jeffrey
It looks like she only has 2 stops on the whole tour. Did I read that 
correctly? Michigan and San Francisco
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tofu chicken and feeling lobster penises

2006-10-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Shemp, a really wonderful story, thanks for posting it. 

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 (I wrote the following for my two brothers on the anniversay of my 
 dad's passing)
 
 So I was thinking of my father the other day, being that it was the 
 first anniversary of his passing...and I thought you may be 
 interested in this little anecdote. 
 In the last 5 or 6 years of his life, even before he had his first 
 stroke, I would cook for him when he came here in the winter, simply 
 because he was getting on in years; I would cook for him here and 
 his care-taker, of course, would cook for him back home in the 
 summer. Breakfasts, though, were his exclusive domain...even after 
 the stroke and, I assume right up to the last, life-ending stroke of 
 last year he still made his breakfast of 11 grain cereal, a tomato, 
 green pepper slices, cheese, and 5 olives. He'd cook the cereal on 
 the stove, which was quite a feat for an 86-year-old.  I always 
 expected the house to burn down but, to his credit, it never did.
 Anyway, I would cook for him but never, ever knew whether he 
 actually liked my cooking because he was more concerned as a father 
 to give me positive reinforcement for my activity...so I never knew 
 what the hell he liked when I made something. I always told him to 
 be honest with me so that I knew what to make and not make for him 
 but the feedback system never caught on; it was like dealing with a 
 Japanese businessman who, as I understand from reading about them, 
 never tell you their true feelings because their culture is never to 
 insult their associates…so you always have to divine what they're 
 thinking. Dad, I'm not a mind reader. Tell me if you don't like 
 something. The best I could decipher was that the 
 word interesting meant he hated it and superb was passable 
 and absolutely superb meant he may actually try it again...but 
 only once again. The man loved his platitudes and superlatives. 
 Well, one of the things I knew with 100% certainty that he does like 
 is seafood and, with the exception of my favourite -- sushi -- he 
 likes all kinds of it. And the king of seafoods is lobster. The man 
 loved his lobster. 
 And you'd think that getting lobster out here in the desert would be 
 a hard, expensive task but, thanks to the good people at Wal-Mart, 
 it wasn't. For about $13.00 a pound you can have the near-minimum-
 wage Wal-Mart fish-monger scoop out a live lobster in their holding 
 tank and steam it there for you right on the premises. 
 And did you know that there is a difference between male and female 
 lobsters? Females have the roe or babies within them practically 
 every time you open them up. My experience is that most people love 
 the females for that reason; not Dad. He loved the males because he 
 didn't want any little fetuses infringing upon any of his beloved 
 lobster tail meat...and he also claimed that the male meat tastes 
 better. 
 So I learned about 20 years ago from him how to feel for the penis 
 of a lobster. Yes, I'm not kidding. I got instructions from the man 
 on how to pick up a lobster at the store, turn him over, and put my 
 index finger on the double icky protrusions on the crustacean's 
 underside -- two insect-like mini-extremities on each side of the 
 underbelly. I know that if they came together in the middle like two 
 swords crossing at the beginning of a joust that it was a male and 
 if they just stayed on each side of the underbelly it was a female. 
 But, oh no, visual inspection wasn't enough; you had to run your 
 finger over the two digits and if they're hard, they're male; if 
 not, they're female. 
 It's a wonder I haven't needed major psychoanalysis. 
 And I never got it right. Why? Because the turn-over of personnel at 
 Wal-Mart, that's why (bear with me here because if I can show you a 
 cause-effect relationship between the geo-economic hiring practices 
 of Wal-Mart and the science of crustacean gender-determination I am 
 an utter genius). 
 You see, whoever works the fish tanks at Wal-Mart knows enough how 
 to fish out the lobster you point at outside the tank, and knows how 
 to steam them but doesn't know the secret of penis-feeling that 
 had been handed down to me in a secret family ceremony. And I'm 
 sorry, but I am too embarrassed to run my finger over lobster 
 genitals in a busy Wal-Mart Superstore. And on top of that, every 
 time the monger would fish out lobsters from the tank it would 
 attract a crowd (I think Americans view any holding pen with live 
 animals in it as a petting zoo). So there was no way I was going to 
 stroke lobster penises in front of the monger, let alone the growing 
 crowd of moms with tykes in strollers.  And, besides, I think 
 there's a bylaw prohibiting inter-species fondling. 
 But Dad was right: you do need to get down and dirty; visual 
 inspection is not enough...you actually do have to feel for it. 
 So half 

[FairfieldLife] Andy Kaufman on Video

2006-10-14 Thread suziezuzie
If you want to see a lot of Kaufman video, good stuff, go to 
youtube.com and put Andy Kaufman in the search. One video was an 
interview by some hot shot of Taxi, a producer or director I think that 
claimed that Kaufman never did a retake or rehersal. He was given a 
script but mainly improvised. He said Kaufman was a genius. If you 
subscribe to Blockbuster online DVD, they have the entire Taxi sitcom--
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAM?

2006-10-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 14, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

 I’ll be happy to answer questions if you have any.

Does it have anything to do with the pet food?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread gimari03
It's a matter of full disclosure.   Naturally, the presenters dodged key 
questions from the 
audience.

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 Yo! It is a club with non-school sponsorship. All the school furnishes is 
 space, as far as I 
 can tell. Are you able to block Christian clubs where prayers are held 
 outside class 
hours?
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  The school district already approved it!
  
  Does anyone have a copy of 9th and 10th mandala of Rig Veda?
  I gave mine away long long ago.
  
  Also, how about a copy of the pic of Guru Dev used for pujas?
  
  The article in Paris w/ the photos of Rajas,etc?
  
  Can contact me either through Rick Archer, or by clicking onto 'send email' 
  on the 
right 
  side of this post, when you are signed into the yahoo group (vs reading in 
  your basic 
  inbox)
  
  My kids attended the HS chosen for this pilot project!  ugh!
  I was raised in TM - next 'kid' after Tina and Teresa Olson a founding 
  member of 
MIU 
 in 
  Sta Barbara and FF.  The meeting was shut down before I could describe the 
  puja and 
  potential downside to  teenagers, as well as the slow persuasive 
  recruitment of the 
kids 
  that will happen w/ this TM club up and downside.  
  
  Writing my letter to the editor today.. describing 7 states of 
  consciouness, sidhis etc.
  
  IMHO, folks can do what they want.  But sponsored by the public schools?  
  In my 
  backyard?  I don't think so.
  
  MSAE grads STILL find their way to my home (grapevine) saying How do I 
  function in 
the 
  real world?  Three more are arriving next week.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
   
   Well its sad when a few adults acting like 3 year olds are able to
   shut down a meeting.  That does not necessarily mean that the school
   district will aquiese to be puppets of three-year olds. It will be
   interesting to see how this unfolds.
  
 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's Fall US tour details

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's Fall US tour details





on 10/14/06 1:30 PM, Jeffrey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It looks like she only has 2 stops on the whole tour. Did I read that 
correctly? Michigan and San Francisco

Thats right. In the summer she does many more, but in November she just does those two.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perhaps it would be best if...

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   You do realize, Judy, that many of us have no
   desire to *ever* deal with your points or
   have any kind of real interaction with you.
   They are at best jumping off points for what
   *we* want to talk about. We have no interest
   whatsoever in talking about what *you* want
   to talk about. :-)
  
  IOW, you merely use FFL to foster the illussion of 
  being willing to discuss things in an 
  adult manner...
 
 Not at all. It's just that I *only* talk
 to adults. Judy doesn't qualify, and often
 you don't either. Many others do.

(Adults meaning Those who share my point of
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAM?

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/14/06 1:37 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 14, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
 I¹ll be happy to answer questions if you have any.
 
 Does it have anything to do with the pet food?

Ultimately, everything is pet food, but it's an acronym for Integrated
Amrita Meditation.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tofu chicken and feeling lobster penises

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
Shemp, this is absolutely charming, a perfectly
lovely tribute to your father.

It's also extremely well written.  I'll bet a
buck you could get it published, on, say, the
Saturday New York Times op-ed page.  They usually
have at least one op-ed piece on Saturdays that's
light and funny and personal (they do today, in
fact--have a look).

You could probably get it published in a local
paper as well, if they're not too squeamish about
the language (you may have to clean up a couple
of the words, even for the Times), and there are
probably lots of other publications as well that
would love to have it.

You won't be able to get money for it, most likely,
but it would be nice to be able to introduce a lot
of people to your fascinating father (as well as
giving them a course in lobster gender identification),
as you've done here with us.

Really, really beautiful job.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 (I wrote the following for my two brothers on the anniversay of my 
 dad's passing)
 
 So I was thinking of my father the other day, being that it was the 
 first anniversary of his passing...and I thought you may be 
 interested in this little anecdote. 
 In the last 5 or 6 years of his life, even before he had his first 
 stroke, I would cook for him when he came here in the winter, 
simply 
 because he was getting on in years; I would cook for him here and 
 his care-taker, of course, would cook for him back home in the 
 summer. Breakfasts, though, were his exclusive domain...even after 
 the stroke and, I assume right up to the last, life-ending stroke 
of 
 last year he still made his breakfast of 11 grain cereal, a tomato, 
 green pepper slices, cheese, and 5 olives. He'd cook the cereal on 
 the stove, which was quite a feat for an 86-year-old.  I always 
 expected the house to burn down but, to his credit, it never did.
 Anyway, I would cook for him but never, ever knew whether he 
 actually liked my cooking because he was more concerned as a father 
 to give me positive reinforcement for my activity...so I never knew 
 what the hell he liked when I made something. I always told him to 
 be honest with me so that I knew what to make and not make for him 
 but the feedback system never caught on; it was like dealing with a 
 Japanese businessman who, as I understand from reading about them, 
 never tell you their true feelings because their culture is never 
to 
 insult their associates…so you always have to divine what they're 
 thinking. Dad, I'm not a mind reader. Tell me if you don't like 
 something. The best I could decipher was that the 
 word interesting meant he hated it and superb was passable 
 and absolutely superb meant he may actually try it again...but 
 only once again. The man loved his platitudes and superlatives. 
 Well, one of the things I knew with 100% certainty that he does 
like 
 is seafood and, with the exception of my favourite -- sushi -- he 
 likes all kinds of it. And the king of seafoods is lobster. The man 
 loved his lobster. 
 And you'd think that getting lobster out here in the desert would 
be 
 a hard, expensive task but, thanks to the good people at Wal-Mart, 
 it wasn't. For about $13.00 a pound you can have the near-minimum-
 wage Wal-Mart fish-monger scoop out a live lobster in their holding 
 tank and steam it there for you right on the premises. 
 And did you know that there is a difference between male and female 
 lobsters? Females have the roe or babies within them practically 
 every time you open them up. My experience is that most people love 
 the females for that reason; not Dad. He loved the males because he 
 didn't want any little fetuses infringing upon any of his beloved 
 lobster tail meat...and he also claimed that the male meat tastes 
 better. 
 So I learned about 20 years ago from him how to feel for the penis 
 of a lobster. Yes, I'm not kidding. I got instructions from the man 
 on how to pick up a lobster at the store, turn him over, and put my 
 index finger on the double icky protrusions on the crustacean's 
 underside -- two insect-like mini-extremities on each side of the 
 underbelly. I know that if they came together in the middle like 
two 
 swords crossing at the beginning of a joust that it was a male and 
 if they just stayed on each side of the underbelly it was a female. 
 But, oh no, visual inspection wasn't enough; you had to run your 
 finger over the two digits and if they're hard, they're male; if 
 not, they're female. 
 It's a wonder I haven't needed major psychoanalysis. 
 And I never got it right. Why? Because the turn-over of personnel 
at 
 Wal-Mart, that's why (bear with me here because if I can show you a 
 cause-effect relationship between the geo-economic hiring practices 
 of Wal-Mart and the science of crustacean gender-determination I am 
 an utter genius). 
 You see, whoever works the fish tanks at Wal-Mart knows enough how 
 to fish out the lobster you point at 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I never have understood the Steve Jobs fan club that much.  
 

 It's a lot like the way the people here who have never
 met Maharishi or been in the same room with him revere
 him. If you had (I have, with both), you wouldn't feel 
 quite the same way about them.

 Distance from the object of reverence increases the
 ability to feel the reverence.
Yup, I have with both and even with Bill Gates. :)
And was even involved in an email exchange between Gates through one of 
his VPs and the head of my company.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   
 I used to agreee wholeheartedly that Windows was buggy, but I 
 typically use both XP home and XP Pro every day all day, and they 
 *never* crash or freeze- Of course I just run biz software on them 
 and well known apps, so no processor intensive gaming or anything...
 

 I compile, debug and run computationally intensive and 
 sometimes still in development and thus about as likely
 to cause a crash as anything possibly could be. I have
 been completely unable to crash Windows XP. Previous
 Windoze releases, I could crash at will. But XP is 
 actually pretty solid.
Oh now you can get a pointer wrong and get a default error (which you'd 
better). ;-)  But it won't crash the whole system but something 
involving a low level driver like a video card can bring it down. I've 
had XP Pro reboot on me a couple months back in fact because of that.

But for the average user they won't see crashes.  One of the big reasons 
is that Gates shut down development a few years back and had the crew 
looking for bugs in the source.  My friends who worked there had some 
interesting tales of things that were found that had been in Windows for 
years (16-bit address pointers where 32-bit was required for example).

Then we have the people to be first on their block with Vista.  I'll pass.

We seem to have MS and Apple TBs here.  I won't call myself a Linux TBer 
but I do support and promote it and believe be the primary OS ten years 
from now.





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[FairfieldLife] The Final Solution

2006-10-14 Thread suziezuzie
The final solution for the TMO to succeed is to simply set up domes all 
over the world,self sufficient monastic type structures. If the MMY 
Effect works as they claim then that's all that is needed to save the 
world, nothing else. From the MMY Effect created, all the other 
benifits will be carried out, ie., organic food, arcitecture, medicine, 
etc. by secondary brach organisations. The foundation for saving the 
world should be the dome activity and everything else will follow. Mark 
Von Trumpledorf. 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT

2006-10-14 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

 On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 There are still parts of Linux that aren't ready for
 prime-time though it is still a good Windoze killer.

 For me, the ability to play *any* type of online multimedia is of
 primary importance, and I don't trust Linux or even a Mac to handle
 all Windows Media Player content. I recently switched from Win2000 to
 XP only because I started encountering too many sites requiring WMP
 10, which is not available for Win2000.

 Heh. How's WMP at MPEG-4 content?

 Dunno. Don't care. I use Zoom Player and Quicktime for viewing most
 downloaded files.

 And I'll match the formats supported by QuickTime vs the formats
 supported by WMP any day of the week.

 That's all very nice, but if you hit a website that requires WMP 10 in
 order to play embedded streaming video, Quicktime is going to sit
 there, not doing a goddamn thing. I started coming across websites
 that wouldn't work with WMP 9 in Win2000, not even with IE; I had to
 fire up the XP laptop to see the embedded content. And, even with WMP
 10 on XP, I sometimes have to load a site in IE because it won't work
 in Firefox.


 I now use a Quicktime plugin called Flip4Mac, which not only allows me 
 access to all those Window Media files online, but also allows me to 
 encode any QT file as a .wmv file or .wma file. Pretty nice.

 http://www.flip4mac.com/

 Since Internet Explorer will run at native speed now on Macs, it's 
 kind of a moot point for Mac users with current systems. Not sure if 
 anyone got it to work yet without the Windows OS (in WINE for Mac), 
 but once they do, there's no reason to switch back. In fact I suspect 
 with the advent of Vista, you'll see huge numbers of people coming 
 back to the Mac OS, currently more of a Mercedes of OS's: it's the 
 best, but only for the few.
So Vaj, you're a Mac TB'er?  :)  BTW, Linux also has the same method of 
essentially running WMV drivers in things like MPlayer on Intel based 
Linux.   BTW, Microsoft also has a Linux division now so some things 
maybe even Explorer may show up on Linux.  Why?  Well some of the big 
boys like HP and IBM are promoting Linux for servers.



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[FairfieldLife] 20 Things You Won't Like About Windows Vista

2006-10-14 Thread Vaj
Vista a distant second to Mac OS X...

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do? 
command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9000829pageNumber=1

http://numdight.notlong.com


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tofu chicken and feeling lobster penises

2006-10-14 Thread shempmcgurk
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words...I haven't thought of 
submitting it but, hey, it's written anyways, so maybe I'll clean it 
up a bit and give it a shot.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Shemp, this is absolutely charming, a perfectly
 lovely tribute to your father.
 
 It's also extremely well written.  I'll bet a
 buck you could get it published, on, say, the
 Saturday New York Times op-ed page.  They usually
 have at least one op-ed piece on Saturdays that's
 light and funny and personal (they do today, in
 fact--have a look).
 
 You could probably get it published in a local
 paper as well, if they're not too squeamish about
 the language (you may have to clean up a couple
 of the words, even for the Times), and there are
 probably lots of other publications as well that
 would love to have it.
 
 You won't be able to get money for it, most likely,
 but it would be nice to be able to introduce a lot
 of people to your fascinating father (as well as
 giving them a course in lobster gender identification),
 as you've done here with us.
 
 Really, really beautiful job.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  (I wrote the following for my two brothers on the anniversay of 
my 
  dad's passing)
  
  So I was thinking of my father the other day, being that it was 
the 
  first anniversary of his passing...and I thought you may be 
  interested in this little anecdote. 
  In the last 5 or 6 years of his life, even before he had his 
first 
  stroke, I would cook for him when he came here in the winter, 
 simply 
  because he was getting on in years; I would cook for him here 
and 
  his care-taker, of course, would cook for him back home in the 
  summer. Breakfasts, though, were his exclusive domain...even 
after 
  the stroke and, I assume right up to the last, life-ending 
stroke 
 of 
  last year he still made his breakfast of 11 grain cereal, a 
tomato, 
  green pepper slices, cheese, and 5 olives. He'd cook the cereal 
on 
  the stove, which was quite a feat for an 86-year-old.  I always 
  expected the house to burn down but, to his credit, it never did.
  Anyway, I would cook for him but never, ever knew whether he 
  actually liked my cooking because he was more concerned as a 
father 
  to give me positive reinforcement for my activity...so I never 
knew 
  what the hell he liked when I made something. I always told him 
to 
  be honest with me so that I knew what to make and not make for 
him 
  but the feedback system never caught on; it was like dealing 
with a 
  Japanese businessman who, as I understand from reading about 
them, 
  never tell you their true feelings because their culture is 
never 
 to 
  insult their associates…so you always have to divine what 
they're 
  thinking. Dad, I'm not a mind reader. Tell me if you don't like 
  something. The best I could decipher was that the 
  word interesting meant he hated it and superb was passable 
  and absolutely superb meant he may actually try it again...but 
  only once again. The man loved his platitudes and superlatives. 
  Well, one of the things I knew with 100% certainty that he does 
 like 
  is seafood and, with the exception of my favourite -- sushi -- 
he 
  likes all kinds of it. And the king of seafoods is lobster. The 
man 
  loved his lobster. 
  And you'd think that getting lobster out here in the desert 
would 
 be 
  a hard, expensive task but, thanks to the good people at Wal-
Mart, 
  it wasn't. For about $13.00 a pound you can have the near-
minimum-
  wage Wal-Mart fish-monger scoop out a live lobster in their 
holding 
  tank and steam it there for you right on the premises. 
  And did you know that there is a difference between male and 
female 
  lobsters? Females have the roe or babies within them practically 
  every time you open them up. My experience is that most people 
love 
  the females for that reason; not Dad. He loved the males because 
he 
  didn't want any little fetuses infringing upon any of his 
beloved 
  lobster tail meat...and he also claimed that the male meat 
tastes 
  better. 
  So I learned about 20 years ago from him how to feel for the 
penis 
  of a lobster. Yes, I'm not kidding. I got instructions from the 
man 
  on how to pick up a lobster at the store, turn him over, and put 
my 
  index finger on the double icky protrusions on the crustacean's 
  underside -- two insect-like mini-extremities on each side of 
the 
  underbelly. I know that if they came together in the middle like 
 two 
  swords crossing at the beginning of a joust that it was a male 
and 
  if they just stayed on each side of the underbelly it was a 
female. 
  But, oh no, visual inspection wasn't enough; you had to run your 
  finger over the two digits and if they're hard, they're male; 
if 
  not, they're female. 
  It's a wonder I haven't needed major psychoanalysis. 
  And I never got it right. Why? Because the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tofu chicken and feeling lobster penises

2006-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 (I wrote the following for my two brothers on the anniversay of my 
 dad's passing)

Nicely done.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tofu chicken and feeling lobster penises

2006-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Thanks, I appreciate the kind words...I haven't thought of 
 submitting it but, hey, it's written anyways, so maybe I'll
 clean it up a bit and give it a shot.

Definitely worth a try.  It occurs to me that you'd
need to shorten it significantly for the Times op-ed
page, which will be tough, because the various parts
of the tale are so nicely integrated.

Op-eds are ideally about 650 words; your piece is
about 1,870, but they *say* they'll consider pieces
of any length.  If you could get it down to 1,000
words, you might be OK--or they might end up cutting
it down themselves.

The Times gets HUGE numbers of op-ed submissions, BTW,
so your chances just in general aren't high.

Here's a link to their submission instructions (which
contains links to a couple of helpful articles that
go into more detail--but those articles are primarily
focused on *opinion*-type pieces, which yours ain't).

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/opedsubmit.html

The Times, of course, is by no means the only
possibility, but you'll have to do a little electronic
legwork to turn up others.





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[FairfieldLife] Vista (was Re: Fwd: A PROGRESS REPORT)

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 Of course if tons of people go over to Apple, hackers will just  
 eventually start writing malware for that platform as well.


There are fundamental differences in the design-philosophy of the Mac/NeXT and 
WIndows 
that make it more difficult to write malware for the Mac. They make it more 
difficult to 
PROTECT Windows from malware as well.

It is interesting to note that rather than correcting these design-flaws in 
Vista, Microsoft 
embraced them by purchasing a virus-protection company and is apparently 
attempting to 
lock out any other company from participation in the lucrative virus-protection 
business on 
Vista.

http://redmondmag.com/news/article.asp?editorialsid=7838




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Andy Kaufman on Video

2006-10-14 Thread Peter
I was on an ATR with Andy in the summer of 1975 right
before he became famous. He was a rather strange and
interesting dude. You could never really tell what was
going on in his head and if he was serious or putting
you on. 

--- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want to see a lot of Kaufman video, good
 stuff, go to 
 youtube.com and put Andy Kaufman in the search. One
 video was an 
 interview by some hot shot of Taxi, a producer or
 director I think that 
 claimed that Kaufman never did a retake or rehersal.
 He was given a 
 script but mainly improvised. He said Kaufman was a
 genius. If you 
 subscribe to Blockbuster online DVD, they have the
 entire Taxi sitcom--
 for only $10 a month. Mark Von Trumpledorf
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/14/06 11:48 AM, gimari03 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The school district already approved it!
  
 I was thinking about what I would say if I were at that meeting. Since I'm
 not a black and white sort of guy, I would have to credit TM for getting me
 off drugs as a teenager and back into a wholesome lifestyle and awakening me
 to spiritual values, and I would admit that I practice a form of meditation
 to this day. But I believe that parents and students should have the whole
 picture. I would want them to consider
 * that PR is the TMO's primary motivation for supporting scientific
 research, and research outcomes that don't suit that purpose are squelched.

According to rumor. Certainly, when teams of TMing and non-TMing researchers 
perform 
a study, at least using government grant money, there is no squelching done.


 * that much of the money raised through course fees and donations in the
 West ends up being misappropriated my Maharishi¹s Cosa Nostra in India.

According to rumor. At best, you can argue that the TMO is exceedingly 
inefficient in how 
it spends its money, but that isn't relevant to members of a club which is 
getting 100% 
sponsorship unless they choose to start donating/spending money themselves.

 * the Hindu connection that you¹re focusing on

Which does't really apply at the level of the club, unless you agree that use 
of the 
meaningless TM mantras IS identical to worship of Hindu deities (nevermmind 
that the 
original dwelling place of devas, according to the earliest Hindu writings on 
the subject, is 
inside the brain/nervous system (stomach?)).

 * MMY¹s womanizing (which they may or may not consider relevant, but which
 reveals hypocrisy from the top down)

Even YOU find it difficult to rationalize this on the level of a high school 
club of the type 
proposed here.


 * MMY¹s praise of Robert Mugabe, Fidel Castro, Ferdinand Marcos, etc.

As above. The club's only activities, as far as I can tell, are to provide a 
place for faculty 
and students to practice TM before and after school, and to provide funding for 
faculty 
and students to learn to practice TM.

 * many more things which could be listed here.

None of which appears to be relevant to this club.

 
 Having said all that, I¹d say that I still think that meditation, and even
 TM specifically would be good for many kids, as it was for me, but that they
 should be concerned that participation may lead kids into involvement with
 an organization of which they might approve if they were fully informed.


The only valid point, IMHO.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's a matter of full disclosure.   Naturally, the presenters dodged key 
 questions from the 
 audience.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  Yo! It is a club with non-school sponsorship. All the school furnishes is 
  space, as far as I 
  can tell. Are you able to block Christian clubs where prayers are held 
  outside class 
 hours?

So, in the context of this club, what full disclosure is required?

Do you think that MMY's alleged sexual habits are germane? Or what?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he school district already approved it!


I was thinking about what I would say if I were at that meeting. 
Since I'm not a black and white sort of guy, I would have to credit 
TM for getting me off drugs as a teenager and back into a wholesome 
lifestyle and awakening me to spiritual values, and I would admit 
that I practice a form of meditation to this day. But I believe that 
parents and students should have the whole picture. I would want 
them to consider 
that PR is the TMO's primary motivation for supporting 
scientific research, and research outcomes that don't suit that 
purpose are squelched. 
that much of the money raised through course fees and donations in 
the West ends up being misappropriated my Maharishi's Cosa Nostra in 
India. 
the Hindu connection that you're focusing on 
MMY's womanizing (which they may or may not consider relevant, but 
which reveals hypocrisy from the top down) 
MMY's praise of Robert Mugabe, Fidel Castro, Ferdinand Marcos, etc. 
many more things which could be listed here.
Having said all that, I'd say that I still think that meditation, 
and even TM specifically would be good for many kids, as it was for 
me, but that they should be concerned that participation may lead 
kids into involvement with an organization of which they might 
approve if they were fully informed. 


You should send this to the newspaper and the school board.
You would have to modify the part about sceintific research, the 
money being stolen, the womanizing, because you have no proof of 
those and people will never take you seriously. Well, only about 70% 
of your post is inneffective and uncoroborated.

Work on it some more and submit it to the public.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum





on 10/14/06 3:29 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The thing about some these points is that your involvement doesnt have to go too far before they start to impact your experience with the TMO. For instance, if some of the kids in the club decided to go to MUM, they would be contributing financially to MMYs family, to which MUM tithes at least 10%, they would be exposed to crowned Rajas and His Majesty Tony Nader, they would be required to study scientific research of dubious quality, etc.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
Pilot program for TM into a California high school, sponsored 
by 
   Lynch:

http://www.marinij.com/ci_4486015
   
   
   
  
  
   Of course.
   
   This is going to happen everywhere the TMO tries to implement 
TM into 
   schools.
   
   Why waste time and money trying?
  
  
  ***
  
  It's not only a waste of time and money, but if it ends up in the 
  courts, it will only tend to reinforce the TM-as-religion issue, 
which 
  does not need to be highlighted. It would be a lot smarter to 
leave 
  school kids alone, except for private schools and charter schools 
where 
  schools can do as they please, and teach TM to parents, who can 
then 
  get their kids to start. Ignorant parents naturally tend to 
circle the 
  wagons when they think their kids are in danger from some foreign 
  element, and there is no sense trying to fight that.
 
 


 Charter schools are public schools.


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Of course they're public schools, but they operate under rules that 
allow them to do pretty much whatever they please, so TM in charter 
schools is unlikely to be challenged like TM in regular public 
schools -- if there are challenges to TM in charter schools, then 
clearly that approach should be dumped too, and just go after private 
schools, which obviously can do as they please.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM presenters squelch objections at HS forum

2006-10-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  Pilot program for TM into a California high school, sponsored by 
Lynch:
  
  http://www.marinij.com/ci_4486015
 
 


 It's being presented as a CLUB, sponsored by the Lynch foundation, 
with meditation meetings 
 before and after school. This COULD work, I think.


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Maybe, but it's a minefield:

http://www.adl.org/religion_ps/goodnews2/SchoolReligiousClubs.pdf





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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dictatorship Is Upon Us

2006-10-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/14/06 12:46:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Before 
  his encounter with Cheney, Howards says he had a clean record."I was 
  never arrested before," he says. "I don't have so much as aspeeding 
  ticket." 

Funny isn't it! This kind of thing happened several times during the 
Clinton administration. The Secret Service doesn't take kind to people 
approaching a president or vice president in public and "harassing" them. 
The politics doesn't matter, the Secret Service won't tolerate it. I liked 
the part about taking his son to his Suzuki piano lessons, reminds me of the 
Jewish mother that always refers to her son as "my son, the 
doctor".
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dictatorship Is Upon Us

2006-10-14 Thread Peter


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
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 Daylight Time,  
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 Before  his encounter with Cheney, Howards says he
 had a clean record.
 
 I was  never arrested before, he says. I don't
 have so much as a
 speeding  ticket. 
 
 
 
 Funny isn't it! This kind of thing happened several
 times during the  Clinton 
 administration. The Secret Service doesn't take kind
 to people  approaching  
 a president or vice president in public and
 harassing them.  The politics 
 doesn't matter, the Secret Service won't tolerate
 it. I liked  the part about 
 taking his son to his Suzuki piano lessons, reminds
 me of the  Jewish mother 
 that always refers to her son as my son, the 
 doctor.

The Secret Service is HIGHLY protective of the
president regardless of the administration. If you're
agitated and try to approach the president, good luck!
You are going down.




 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about Bevan's pundit housing claims

2006-10-14 Thread bob_brigante
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
  
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Bevan says:

As you know, the Vastu campus previously constructed in 
Maharishi
Vedic  City by Raja Wynne and Maureen is now completely 
occupied by
participants  in the Mother Divine program.

In what way would the 100 ladies of the MD program be 
completely
occupying a campus built for 500 pundits?

  
  
   Because MD ladies don¹t want to be packed in like sardines the 
way the
   pundits would have been.
  
  
  ***
  
  Well, the point is, if you are going to build some new housing in 
VC, 
  then the obvious first step would be to first build housing 
designed to 
  put the 100 MD members into single rooms, which would instantly 
give 
  you 500 rooms for pundits when the MD moves out (and it's just 
  absolutely ridiculous to talk about MD being disturbed by 
having to 
  make the short move to new housing in VC -- they seem to have 
survived 
  the move from Boone in good order). Since the housing that MD 
occupies 
  was built for the pundits, if the pundits are indeed coming, then 
why 
  aren't they going into the housing they were designed for? It's 
just a 
  waste, since the pundit housing cost about two million and 
change, but 
  housing the 100 MD in manufactured boxes should only cost about a 
  million.
  
  It may be that they don't want to solicit funds to build for MD 
because 
  they are less popular than the pundits, but whatever the 
reasoning, 
  it's horseshit not to use available housing that will hold 500 
pundits.
 



 The number of rooms you get on MD depends primarily on the amount of
 your sponsorship.  Top ladies are 2 to a trailer, which would have
 held 16 pundits.  You can say this is a waste of money/space, but
 these top ladies bring in mucho money each month.  The lowest ladies
 get 2 rooms and even that is considered a downsizing from what they
 had in Boone.  No way all MD would go into single rooms as that 
would
 destroy the multi-tiered feudal/aristocratic social pecking order 
that
 has evolved there over the years -- chaos would erupt.
 

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They could put the pundits, if they come in the promised numbers, 
into the facility that was built for them, and build whatever custom 
design for MD that suited them in a new facility in Vedic City (and 
suited them better than a facility built for 500 pundits) -- no need 
to upset the social order in MD-land, and the total cost of providing 
housing for all parties would be much less if they moved MD out. The 
fact that they are apparently not going to is only a monument to lazy 
and incompetent management.




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