[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. Yeah, this helps to present your POV, Curtis, thanks. In answer to your first question, there was a kind of magic to that type of music back when Django Reinhart and Stephane Grapelli were playing it live in dimly-lit bistros in Paris. There was FUN in the air, and they had something to say. Django was using the guitar the way it had never been used in a jazz band, as a lead instrument, and he was playing the same kinda fast runs that Charlie Parker played. He was making it up on the fly. The original clip was of some fellow saying, on YouTube, Hey look! I can finally play this piece I've been practicing for so long. He *wasn't* making it up on the fly; he was reading charts. As you suggested, where's the fun in that? It must be the same kinda thing you face in being a student of the blues. Yes, you want to learn the old masters' songs perfectly. But do you want to play them on the street the way *they* played them? I think not. Their songs had something to say for *them*, when *they* played them that way. You need to find your *own* things to say, and your way of saying them, all within the same song. The fellow doing all that diddling about on the fretboard and showing how well he's mastered someone else's song will probably be able to do a nice version of it in about ten years, when he's gotten over finally being able to play it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get that he practiced the finger patterns a lot. I can feel, you really made those motions many times didn't you? But I don't understand what this music is trying to communicate to me beyond technical proficiency. If you can please help me understand what I am missing here. Would you like the music if it were being played on a piano instead of a guitar? Or by an ensemble? I love that kind of jazz. I couldn't care less about his technical proficiency (I mean, I suppose I'd care if his playing wasn't nice and crisp), but I just dig bebop. More aesthetic than emotional; it exercises my ear. No probably not. I dig piano but the artist has to have something to say for me to really like it. I am open to understanding what people get out of this kind of music. It obviously isn't the emotional based music I listen to. I just didn't understand why he was doing that pattern. I am immersed in meaning and communication in music. But I am not anti jazz. It just has to have an emotional center for me to relate to. Check out these two. I love this guitarist and he goes way beyond my own personal syle preference, but he is always connected in a way that I relate to: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0bnVWwq7oNc This isn't mu favorite piece by these two and that kind of makes my point. His guitar is always so meaningful for me even when it isn't what I prefer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get that he practiced the finger patterns a lot. I can feel, you really made those motions many times didn't you? But I don't understand what this music is trying to communicate to me beyond technical proficiency. If you can please help me understand what I am missing here. Would you like the music if it were being played on a piano instead of a guitar? Or by an ensemble? I love that kind of jazz. I couldn't care less about his technical proficiency (I mean, I suppose I'd care if his playing wasn't nice and crisp), but I just dig bebop. More aesthetic than emotional; it exercises my ear. No probably not. I dig piano but the artist has to have something to say for me to really like it. I am open to understanding what people get out of this kind of music. It obviously isn't the emotional based music I listen to. I just didn't understand why he was doing that pattern. I am immersed in meaning and communication in music. But I am not anti jazz. It just has to have an emotional center for me to relate to. Check out these two. I love this guitarist and he goes way beyond my own personal syle preference, but he is always connected in a way that I relate to: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0bnVWwq7oNc This isn't mu favorite piece by these two and that kind of makes my point. His guitar is always so meaningful for me even when it isn't what I prefer. http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/George_Wettling.html Collier's Clambake Wettling's short simple snare drum intro is for me strangely full of meaning, both emotional and intellectual. When I listen to that tune I usually repeat the drum intro several times in a vain attempt to understand why on earth that sounds so good to me. I guess I couldn't care less if that same intro was played by, say, Buddy Rich. I'm afraid it would lack all the weird warmth I perceive in Wettling's playing. Of course, YMMV...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just try closing your eyes and grooving with it. Thanks, I did just that, and felt more of the playfulness of the style. It reminds me of bluegrass in how it effects me mentally. Here's an old video, obviously staged for the camera, but that carries a little of the fun of the style, as played by the people who invented it. All the difference in the world. http://youtube.com/watch?v=h4DDkhLM3wI You almost have to imagine the smoky cabaret atmosphere in the background and a lifetime of not only jazz but French musical tradition to get where they're at. Django was a Gypsy, and his playing was even more awesome than it sounds because, as a result of a fire when he was young, two of the fingers on his left hand were fused together and partially paralyzed. Close your eyes and imagine a great-looking French babe on your arm, a Gauloise between your lips, and a cheap glass of wine in your free hand, the one that's not rubbing the thigh of your companion as you listen. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get that he practiced the finger patterns a lot. I can feel, you really made those motions many times didn't you? But I don't understand what this music is trying to communicate to me beyond technical proficiency. If you can please help me understand what I am missing here. Out of Nowhere is a great jazz tune to groove to. It's not that hard to play some great stuff over those changes. This guy gets in jazz musician's terms really outside. It's like transcending with music. Every riff is like diving deep into the transcendent and then coming back out. One person who did this really well was Wes Montgomery who I saw play at the Penthouse in Seattle back in the 1960's. He didn't play any of that octave stuff, that was commercial jazz. Here was this little guy sitting on a stool and his feet couldn't even reach the floor playing his ass off. Moments like that in life are rare. Just try closing your eyes and grooving with it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another meaty interview in Salon with a theologian on the relationship of science and religion. John Haught is a Roman Catholic theologian and a student of evolutionary biology who has proposed a theology of evolution. He has a book coming out called God and the New Atheism in which he takes the current crop of atheist authors to task for their lack of understanding of both religion and science. Excerpt: We have to distinguish between science as a method and what science produces in the way of discovery. As a method, science does not ask questions of purpose. But it's something different to look at the cumulative results of scientific thought and technology. From a theological point of view, that's a part of the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. That set of discoveries is not at all suggestive of a purposeless universe. Just the opposite. And what is the purpose? The purpose seems to be, from the very beginning, the intensification of consciousness. This is such crap, consciousness could have evolved any time in the last 500 million years, instead it waited for a chance event with a monkey which wouldn't have happened if a meteorite hadn't slammed into the earth wiping out the dominant reptiles. Oh yeah maybe that was an act of god. This is a case of a true believer not seeing the facts because of deeply held prejudice, it's the opposite of science. If you understand purpose as actualizing something that's unquestionably good, then consciousness certainly fits. It's cynical of scientists to say, off- handedly, there's obviously no purpose in the universe. If purpose means realizing a value, consciousness is a value that none of us can deny. http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/12/18/john_haught/index.html http://tinyurl.com/3y6uar Here's another excerpt: Evolution remains the thorniest issue in the ongoing debate over science and religion. But for all the yelling between creationists and scientists, there's one perspective that's largely absent from public discussions about evolution. We rarely hear from religious believers who accept the standard Darwinian account of evolution. It's a shame because there's an important question at stake: How can a person of faith reconcile the apparently random, meaningless process of evolution with belief in God? There is no ongoing debate between science and religion, but people like the intelligent design crowd like you to think there is. It's stark staringly obvious why you never hear from believers who understand Darwin, there aren't any. One doesn't believe in evolution one understands it, big difference. This is the problem with this entire debate, you have a bunch of people who don't actually understand something trying to shoe-horn their beliefs into somewhere that doesn't need them. Dawkins has a poor understanding of religious beliefs for sure, but in a way his knowledge is perfect because he understands that religion is the software running on the hardware that natural selection created. All you have to do is prove him wrong and you've expanded human knowledge. It's perfectly possible, Dawkins himself is fascinated by concepts of ultimate creators/consciousnes he's not as narrow minded as people like to paint him. None of these articles will prove him wrong however, they are just searching for wiggle room, it's called the god of the gaps wherever someone thinks science can't provide an explanation they try to use that as proof there is more in the sense of a controlling force. None of the arguments has stood up so far, and in the ever expanding sphere of knowledge the space for god gets smaller all the time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 That's interesting. I always wondered how anybody could actually enjoy that kind of music. To me, it's almost as bad as elevator music; meaningless, empty of substance... I mean it as no suggestion about you personally, Bhairitu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. Now this illustrates to me the stark difference from the piece Bhairitu shared. In this one there is a sequential beginning middle and ending theme that the other piece doesn't seem to have. The other one it seems could be started at just about any point in its playing and I wouldn't know the difference. Maybe that's my limitation or lack of sophistication. And I'm not a musician. But the bottom line is that I enjoyed this piece, not the other one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Another meaty interview in Salon with a theologian on the relationship of science and religion. John Haught is a Roman Catholic theologian and a student of evolutionary biology who has proposed a theology of evolution. He has a book coming out called God and the New Atheism in which he takes the current crop of atheist authors to task for their lack of understanding of both religion and science. Excerpt: We have to distinguish between science as a method and what science produces in the way of discovery. As a method, science does not ask questions of purpose. But it's something different to look at the cumulative results of scientific thought and technology. From a theological point of view, that's a part of the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. That set of discoveries is not at all suggestive of a purposeless universe. Just the opposite. And what is the purpose? The purpose seems to be, from the very beginning, the intensification of consciousness. This is such crap, consciousness could have evolved any time in the last 500 million years, instead it waited for a chance event with a monkey which wouldn't have happened if a meteorite hadn't slammed into the earth wiping out the dominant reptiles. Oh yeah maybe that was an act of god. This is a case of a true believer not seeing the facts because of deeply held prejudice, it's the opposite of science. I have to agree. To me this seems like the projection of purpose onto a universe that is in no need of one by someone who is in desperate need for one. Religionists need to see a purpose to life, because 1) they tend to have a need that someone or something guiding it or designed it, and 2) because they are deeply imprinted by dogma that's been telling them since they were born that there *is* a purpose to it all, and a designer behind the scenes. So *naturally* they look at the world and tend to see purpose and design behind it. Someone with no dogmatic alliances doesn't necessarily see the world that way. There is a precedence implied in the words that the author used in the excerpt above that's telling IMO, about the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. The religious visions have to stay intact, while integrating the world into *them*. That's what I think is going on with most attempts to justify religion with pseudo-science. It's making the results fit the dogma, drawing bulleyes around the arrows. It's the same thing we see in the TMO ME studies. The results of a large group of people bouncing on their butts is a foregone conclusion because that is part of the religious vision and thus sacrosanct. The facts must be integrated *into* these religious visions, even if a lot of squishing square pegs into round holes is involved, because the visions represent truth. And they suggest that atheists are deluded? :-) For me, it's like what Curtis said earlier about a type of music he just doesn't get or resonate with. I just don't get the desire to find a purpose behind life. It's the *same* life, purpose or not. I could waste my incarnation pondering what it means and the whys of everything, or I could just enjoy the fact that life is pretty groovy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoon of the Week
In a message dated 12/16/07 12:46:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, what makes you think he ignored the PDB? All information was passed onto the FBI. Your blaming this on the FBI? LOL! No, that must be your paranoid imagination, again. I, unlike you, am not blaming anybody except the terrorists. I'm saying without specific information there wasn't anything he could do about a threat except hand it over to the FBI. Can you imagine the field day your ilk would have had if Bush had put in place all the screening we have today at airports before 911? The cries of fascism would have been deafening and had they worked and prevented an attack, you would never have believed there was one planned in the first place and it was prevented. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoon of the Week
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/16/07 12:46:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, what makes you think he ignored the PDB? All information was passed onto the FBI. Your blaming this on the FBI? LOL! No, that must be your paranoid imagination, again. I, unlike you, am not blaming anybody except the terrorists. I'm saying without specific information there wasn't anything he could do about a threat except hand it over to the FBI. Can you imagine the field day your ilk would have had if Bush had put in place all the screening we have today at airports before 911? The cries of fascism would have been deafening and had they worked and prevented an attack, you would never have believed there was one planned in the first place and it was prevented. You've ignored what I wrote. You've surely ignored the obvious facts that are out there and you can only make excuses for your pal Bush and his incompetent criminal crew. There's no getting through to you. It's like talking to to a mannequin. Maybe you also ignore polls. Fortunately for the USA, willfully blind right wing ideologues like you are really in a fast dwindling small minority.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
That was an interesting ride for me. Many good points from people, thanks for the insights. I'll start with Judy's contribution. I didn't know that song and that shows how out of touch I am with this style. Thanks for giving me the style lesson with those links. I agree with you about the coolness of the music. It seems detached in a way that I find hard to hang with. Again, it reminds me of bluegrass runs. After the second round of diddly diddly dee, doodly diddly do, diddly doodly dee do, I am outta there emotionally and mentally. But it was fascinating to listen to the music through someone else's ears, and good for me to listen to stuff outside my preferences. Tuck and Patti move me but not you! De gustibus non est disputandum! Do Rflex did hit the nail on the head for me a bit with the elevator music reference. Perhaps this music has been ruined a bit by being used in those settings. Turq hit some great perspective points for me, fitting it into the innovation the music represents and the places it is best enjoyed. Perhaps with a martini in my hand I could catch the groove. There is an excitement to improvisation that gets lost in the formal replication of the moment. It may be that if I heard someone riffing off of the basic pattern I might feel more. But it may just boil down to taste and exposure. It took me some time to warm up to Indian music, but once I learned to love it, I felt musically richer. As far are playing my blues master's pieces goes, I usually start with close attention to how they originally played it. Then I play it hundreds of times till it morphs into my own style. Then I go back and make sure I haven't dropped something really fantastic that I can now pick up because I have internalized the song. The song gets its final morphing when I perform it many times and the audiences interact with me, creating the form that I eventually end up recording. All the stages of it are a blast. Sometimes I return to a form of the song that is very close to the original. I had that experience with Canned Heat Blues of Tommy Johnson. I changed the tempo when I first learned it until I started busking the song. Then I understood why he had played it the way he did, it worked much better in front of people his way. Many times I just take the lyrics and write my own music because I can't relate to their guitar approach but love the lyrics. This happened recently with Blind Lemon Jefferson's One Kind Favor that I am putting on my next CD. The words and the guitar didn't match for me at all but the lyrics are fantastic so I just took off with my own music although I will pay his estate for his fantastic words. Dylan did his own version on his first record. Thanks for the musical stretch Bhairitu! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get that he practiced the finger patterns a lot. I can feel, you really made those motions many times didn't you? But I don't understand what this music is trying to communicate to me beyond technical proficiency. If you can please help me understand what I am missing here. Would you like the music if it were being played on a piano instead of a guitar? Or by an ensemble? I love that kind of jazz. I couldn't care less about his technical proficiency (I mean, I suppose I'd care if his playing wasn't nice and crisp), but I just dig bebop. More aesthetic than emotional; it exercises my ear. No probably not. I dig piano but the artist has to have something to say for me to really like it. Art Tatum, same song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UKvFfioScbI I am open to understanding what people get out of this kind of music. It obviously isn't the emotional based music I listen to. Right, it's more just sensual, or maybe I should say sensory, because it's very col. Eddie Lockjaw Davis, same song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvPdPcyztls Guitar duet, Gianni Cataleta, Francesco Lo Castro, same song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJI_vG0V4fQ Love this one. Cataleta has some great videos, but nothing on Amazon. I'd never heard of him until tonight when I was looking for other versions of Out of Nowhere. I just didn't understand why he was doing that pattern. Do you know the song? I am immersed in meaning and communication in music. But I am not anti jazz. It just has to have an emotional center for me to
[FairfieldLife] Collective Consciousness and Nokia Water Crisis?
http://tinyurl.com/27zv7c Contaminated water crisis continues in Nokia Military distributes clean drinking water as some families flee city The public health clinic in the town of Nokia, just outside Tampere had the appearance of the aftermath of a major disaster on Thursday, with exhausted patients in beds extending to the corridors. The patients had fallen ill from drinking tap water which had been tainted by treated sewage following a mishap at the city's water works earlier in the week. Officials say that a valve had been left open between Wednesday and Friday last week, allowing at least 400,000 litres of treated waste water to enter the Nokia water supply. By Monday thousands of residents were coming down with stomach ailments. Many of those suffering from diarrhea drank more water to alleviate their symptoms before people realised that the water itself was the cause of the problem. The contamination of the municipal water supply is affecting about 25,500 local residents. It was not until Sunday that warnings on water quality were distributed directly to Nokia households. Before that, there was information only in the local media and on the city's website. - I just did a bike ride to Nokia to find out whether a crisis like that could somehow be felt in the collective consciousness of the town. I'd say the atmosphere felt rather tamasic to me. Of course it's impossible to say would I have felt like that had I not known about the incident...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The fellow doing all that diddling about on the fretboard and showing how well he's mastered someone else's song will probably be able to do a nice version of it in about ten years, when he's gotten over finally being able to play it. Er, Barry, I know you have to trash the video because I liked it, but you are aware that the original song is a straight romantic ballad, right? It was a Bing Crosby standard. As Bhairitu said, it's a great tune for jazz because of the changes at the basis of the song. There are umpty-dozen jazz versions of it, no two the same. I'm pretty sure this guy is playing his own version; he hasn't mastered somebody else's, he's mastered his own. I think what Curtis is objecting to is the mastered aspect, the fact that he's not improvising in the fly. It's an improvisation that is more or less set in stone, as it were, which makes it a little cold as well as cool. And you do realize that even the wildest on- the-fly improvisation involves reading charts, right? Charts give you the basic chordal and rhythmic structure of a song, and the jazz musician takes off from there. Obviously once the musician has learned the chart of a song, he doesn't need to read it as he improvises, but what he's doing is still based on the chart. As to there was a kind of magic to that type of music back when Django Reinhart and Stephane Grapelli were playing it, it's hardly the same type of music. They were fabulous in their own way, but it's a *very* different style, and not just because they were improvising on the fly and this guy wasn't. What's neat about this guy's version is its inventiveness. It's very abstract, as I think Bhairitu was trying to say, pure music with no overt emotional content. (No, that doesn't make it better, it's just different from what you and Curtis like.) For me, there's a very deep level where abstract aesthetic appreciation somehow merges with abstract emotional appreciation, where the pure beauty of what I'm hearing makes me weep. Not so much with the music of this video, but my appreciation of it goes in that direction. I like the more emotional stuff too, but if I were wrecked on a desert island and had to choose, I'd rather have abstract music to listen to, Bach rather than Brahms, this guy rather than Django. Different strokes is all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
That was an excellent description of what Jazz is up to Judy, thanks. I didn't get the Bing Crosby connection till you made it. You are right about improvisation. It is often the use of well practiced licks used in a phrasing of the moment. How far you let it hang out into the danger of sounding shitty kind of defines artists. Going back to Jimi, his most improvisational work came at the after hour jams after his gigs. When you are playing for hundreds, or thousands of people, it really isn't the time to discover something new, its the time to deliver the freak'n goods! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip The fellow doing all that diddling about on the fretboard and showing how well he's mastered someone else's song will probably be able to do a nice version of it in about ten years, when he's gotten over finally being able to play it. Er, Barry, I know you have to trash the video because I liked it, but you are aware that the original song is a straight romantic ballad, right? It was a Bing Crosby standard. As Bhairitu said, it's a great tune for jazz because of the changes at the basis of the song. There are umpty-dozen jazz versions of it, no two the same. I'm pretty sure this guy is playing his own version; he hasn't mastered somebody else's, he's mastered his own. I think what Curtis is objecting to is the mastered aspect, the fact that he's not improvising in the fly. It's an improvisation that is more or less set in stone, as it were, which makes it a little cold as well as cool. And you do realize that even the wildest on- the-fly improvisation involves reading charts, right? Charts give you the basic chordal and rhythmic structure of a song, and the jazz musician takes off from there. Obviously once the musician has learned the chart of a song, he doesn't need to read it as he improvises, but what he's doing is still based on the chart. As to there was a kind of magic to that type of music back when Django Reinhart and Stephane Grapelli were playing it, it's hardly the same type of music. They were fabulous in their own way, but it's a *very* different style, and not just because they were improvising on the fly and this guy wasn't. What's neat about this guy's version is its inventiveness. It's very abstract, as I think Bhairitu was trying to say, pure music with no overt emotional content. (No, that doesn't make it better, it's just different from what you and Curtis like.) For me, there's a very deep level where abstract aesthetic appreciation somehow merges with abstract emotional appreciation, where the pure beauty of what I'm hearing makes me weep. Not so much with the music of this video, but my appreciation of it goes in that direction. I like the more emotional stuff too, but if I were wrecked on a desert island and had to choose, I'd rather have abstract music to listen to, Bach rather than Brahms, this guy rather than Django. Different strokes is all.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
Brahmacharya-A state of the individual where the life-force is always found directed upwards. MMY Gita appendix. Bal Brahmacharya-One who has practiced celibacy from childhood. Why is that significant? The prana (life-force) is that subtle essence that connects the soul to the body. The consciousness is tied to the prana and as such the prana, when withdrawn from the body during TM allows the mind to experience subtler states of consciousness. If the prana is caught up in sexual fantasies it becomes 'tied down' to body consciousness, this 'addiction' expresses itself as the samskaras or vrittis in the subconscious mind disallowing the mind to transcend, these are the 'stresses' MMY is talking about that must be 'released' to free the mind from bondage to material desire. As such, by practicing the Yama number 4 or Celibacy, the aspiring Yogi can accelerate the release of consciousness from attachments that 'tie' him/her to body consciousness. These attachments hold the prana (tied up in the lower chakras; lust, anger and greed) and as a result hold the awareness, trapping it in body consciousness. This is one of the *means* to Yoga recommended by Maharishi Patanjali! If you're serious about Yoga, With the continuous practice of ALL these limbs, or *means*, simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneously in all the eight spheres of life, MMY Gita/Yoga appendix, direct quote!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's neat about this guy's version is its inventiveness. Interestingly, that is what I found most lacking. I've heard this song done, and by guitarists, and this same way, so many times that there was nothing inventive about it for me. But that could be because I'm a guitar freak and have seen a lot of jazz guitarists live and you haven't. Taste is taste; there are no absolutes. I found it as mechanical as a Swiss clock and about as interesting as watching one tick. You liked it. Go figure. It's very abstract, as I think Bhairitu was trying to say, pure music with no overt emotional content. (No, that doesn't make it better, it's just different from what you and Curtis like.) This seems closer to the issue. You seem to live inside your head more than most people here. You get off on abstract con- cepts, and find some of them interesting where I see nothing of interest at all. For me, abstract philosophy of the sort that merely thinks and talks about con- cepts that the thinker has no experience with are completely uninteresting. That's what this music was like for me. Although I'm sure it's not true, it was as if he was playing from sheet music without ever having heard the song. Same, for me, with philoso- phers talking about concepts they have only heard about or thought about and have never experienced themselves. There is just no there there for me, as someone put it so well. For me, there's a very deep level where abstract aesthetic appreciation somehow merges with abstract emotional appreciation, where the pure beauty of what I'm hearing makes me weep. Not so much with the music of this video, but my appreciation of it goes in that direction. Whatever floats your boat. I have to feel as if the player has something to say behind all the notes. If he doesn't, they are only notes. I didn't feel as if this guy had *any* kind of relationship with the song *except* as a series of notes. He didn't have anything to say, only notes to play. I like the more emotional stuff too, but if I were wrecked on a desert island and had to choose, I'd rather have abstract music to listen to, Bach rather than Brahms, this guy rather than Django. Different strokes is all. As I said, whatever floats your boat. If I'd have liked it I would have said so, whether you'd liked it or not. I didn't like it. I just went back and watched it again to make sure. It was just showoffy stuff for me, the musical equivalent of people I used to see at Mensa meetings playing intellectual oneupsman- ship games. The tell for me is in his face, not his fingers. He's not having any FUN. He's com- pletely in his head, watching the tech of the playing. I didn't get the feeling that a note of this was actually improvised when I first heard it, and I feel the same way now. My bet is that if you saw him at the next Starbucks on his tour, you'd hear exactly the same performance, note for note. But then you like consistency, so as you say, different strokes...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
Now this illustrates to me the stark difference from the piece Bhairitu shared. In this one there is a sequential beginning middle and ending theme that the other piece doesn't seem to have. The other one it seems could be started at just about any point in its playing and I wouldn't know the difference. Maybe that's my limitation or lack of sophistication. And I'm not a musician. But the bottom line is that I enjoyed this piece, not the other one. I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. They went about reconstructing expectations, systematically F'ing with each aspect of the music. I dig the concept of what they were doing. But I am left in my head with most of the results. Brazilian Samba Jazz has the Latin warmth that allows me to feel the style better, but real abstract jazz dudes would probably think that style is also too conventional. I get the last laugh cuz those dudes have to wear a suit or tux when they perform, and I don't! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. Now this illustrates to me the stark difference from the piece Bhairitu shared. In this one there is a sequential beginning middle and ending theme that the other piece doesn't seem to have. The other one it seems could be started at just about any point in its playing and I wouldn't know the difference. Maybe that's my limitation or lack of sophistication. And I'm not a musician. But the bottom line is that I enjoyed this piece, not the other one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this illustrates to me the stark difference from the piece Bhairitu shared. In this one there is a sequential beginning middle and ending theme that the other piece doesn't seem to have. The other one it seems could be started at just about any point in its playing and I wouldn't know the difference. Maybe that's my limitation or lack of sophistication. And I'm not a musician. But the bottom line is that I enjoyed this piece, not the other one. I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. They went about reconstructing expectations, systematically F'ing with each aspect of the music. I dig the concept of what they were doing. But I am left in my head with most of the results. That's it exactly, as I just said in another post. This guy is *totally* in his head. His body is not involved, his emotions are not involved, and his *life* (in terms of conveying anything to the audience from his own life experience) is not involved. It's a purely intellectual exercise. Not my kinda music.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brahmacharya-A state of the individual where the life-force is always found directed upwards. MMY Gita appendix. Bal Brahmacharya-One who has practiced celibacy from childhood. Why is that significant? The prana (life-force) is that subtle essence that connects the soul to the body. The consciousness is tied to the prana and as such the prana, when withdrawn from the body during TM allows the mind to experience subtler states of consciousness. If the prana is caught up in sexual fantasies it becomes 'tied down' to body consciousness, this 'addiction' expresses itself as the samskaras or vrittis in the subconscious mind disallowing the mind to transcend, these are the 'stresses' MMY is talking about that must be 'released' to free the mind from bondage to material desire. As such, by practicing the Yama number 4 or Celibacy, the aspiring Yogi can accelerate the release of consciousness from attachments that'tie' him/her to body consciousness. These attachments hold the prana(tied up in the lower chakras; lust, anger and greed) and as a result hold the awareness, trapping it in body consciousness. This is one of the *means* to Yoga recommended by Maharishi Patanjali! If you're serious about Yoga, With the continuous practice of ALL these limbs, or *means*, simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneously in all the eight spheres of life, MMY Gita/Yoga appendix, direct quote! -- Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. ---
[FairfieldLife] When fascism comes...
This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. Dude! I wanted to reply to this post but now I don't have to, thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Brahmacharya-A state of the individual where the life-force is always found directed upwards. MMY Gita appendix. Bal Brahmacharya-One who has practiced celibacy from childhood. Why is that significant? The prana (life-force) is that subtle essence that connects the soul to the body. The consciousness is tied to the prana and as such the prana, when withdrawn from the body during TM allows the mind to experience subtler states of consciousness. If the prana is caught up in sexual fantasies it becomes 'tied down' to body consciousness, this 'addiction' expresses itself as the samskaras or vrittis in the subconscious mind disallowing the mind to transcend, these are the 'stresses' MMY is talking about that must be 'released' to free the mind from bondage to material desire. As such, by practicing the Yama number 4 or Celibacy, the aspiring Yogi can accelerate the release of consciousness from attachments that'tie' him/her to body consciousness. These attachments hold the prana(tied up in the lower chakras; lust, anger and greed) and as a result hold the awareness, trapping it in body consciousness. This is one of the *means* to Yoga recommended by Maharishi Patanjali! If you're serious about Yoga, With the continuous practice of ALL these limbs, or *means*, simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneously in all the eight spheres of life, MMY Gita/Yoga appendix, direct quote! -- Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. ---
Re: [FairfieldLife] When fascism comes...
On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:57 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4 Good for Ron Paul. The idea of a Creationist in the White House gives me goose-bumps. How could someone who doesn't believe basic science even be considered for such an important office?
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4 Doonesbury is riffing on Huckabee's Christianizing of his campaign this week, too. Great stuff: http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20071217 http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20071218
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:57 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4 Good for Ron Paul. The idea of a Creationist in the White House gives me goose-bumps. How could someone who doesn't believe basic science even be considered for such an important office? I have no problem with Creationism myself and, indeed, see ZERO conflict between it and science. I do have a problem with someone, like Huckabee, who is a gung-ho Baptist preacher who apparently believes that anyone that does not accept Jesus as their personal savior is going to rot in hell for all eternity. But that's what Jimmy Carter believe, too, and I suspect that most on this forum just loved his presidency.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. They went about reconstructing expectations, systematically F'ing with each aspect of the music. I dig the concept of what they were doing. But I am left in my head with most of the results. I first got into jazz (I'm not that far into it, I should say, but I first started appreciating it) in my late 20s, when I was dating a jazz flautist and smoking a lot of dope. He brought over his favorite records, and we got high and listened, with him sort of guiding me in how to hear the music. I'm not sure I could have picked up on what was going on without both the chemical enhancement and his instruction, but fortunately the ability to appreciate it didn't go away after he was no longer around and I was no longer getting high. I remember we would sit and burst out in laughter at particularly delightful riffs. Oddly enough, even without the pot, that reaction has stayed with me and even extended to completely different types of music, even classical; I'll find myself laughing at a perfectly turned phrase or an ingenious modulation or a beautifully shaped cadenza. There's a kind of transcendence involved. Anyway, if a specific kind of music tends to leave me cold, I often find that listening to it with someone who knows it well and appreciates it has the effect of opening me to it. (That approach is especially effective if the other person is also a romantic interest!) Now I'm thinking back. I got into opera when I was seeing a tenor in college, carnatic music when I was involved with a TM bliss-ninny, Celtic music with an Irishman, romantic ballads with a lounge singer...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. Dude! I wanted to reply to this post but now I don't have to, thanks! Boy, talk about childish, why don't you say something intelligent. You have the good karma to have known MMY (I assume), and the good karma to be on this group, but not the good karma to think intelligently. Why don't you post something *in context* with this group? isn't that what it was intended for by Rick Archer? The above comments merely reveal the bankruptcy of you own moral life, grow up!
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:57 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4 Good for Ron Paul. The idea of a Creationist in the White House gives me goose-bumps. How could someone who doesn't believe basic science even be considered for such an important office? I agree. It looks like Ron Paul was drugged by Fox news, I wouldn't be surprised, they are a truly evil empire. Huckabee is a medieval ass and once stated he though all women should stay at home as housewives. Romney, Huckabee, Gulliani are unelectable as president. The Republicans only ever vote for a southerner, and they won't vote in enough numbers for Huckabee. If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination (which I doubt he will because of maintsream media prejudice), then about one third of registered republicans will leave the party (they only signed up because of ron paul) If Huckabee, Gulianni, McCain or Romney become president with any kind of majority of power, I am leaving this country for good. That's a promise. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:57 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4 Good for Ron Paul. The idea of a Creationist in the White House gives me goose- bumps. How could someone who doesn't believe basic science even be considered for such an important office? I agree. It looks like Ron Paul was drugged by Fox news, I wouldn't be surprised, they are a truly evil empire. Huckabee is a medieval ass and once stated he though all women should stay at home as housewives. Sounds like a certain guru from India we all know...get your degree and then stay at home and support your husband... Romney, Huckabee, Gulliani are unelectable as president. The Republicans only ever vote for a southerner, You're quite the historian. Ever heard of the relatively recent non-Southerners: - Ronald Reagan - Richard Nixon - Gerald Ford - George Bush 41 (transplanted to Texas from New England late in life) - George Bush 43 (tansplanted to Texas from New England early in life) ...and then there's the list non-Southerners that Republicans voted for but didn't become president: - Bob Dole - Barry Goldwater Of course, we could go back in time to Lincoln from Illinois (yes, I know, he was born in Kentucky), but you get my point. You, of course, got it ass-backwards: if anyone, it is Democrats that vote for Southerners: - LBJ - Jimmy Carter - Bill Clinton - Al Gore and they won't vote in enough numbers for Huckabee. If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination (which I doubt he will because of maintsream media prejudice), then about one third of registered republicans will leave the party (they only signed up because of ron paul) If Huckabee, Gulianni, McCain or Romney become president with any kind of majority of power, I am leaving this country for good. That's a promise. Those are non-definite enough criteria to keep you here in the US until you're eligible for Social Security... Care to be a tad more specific? Perhaps by eliminating the any kindo of majority of power criterion which is very subjective... And how about just saying that if they get the Republican nomination instead of if they win the presidency... OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
Trying to think of guitarists who had some- thing to say, I searched YouTube and found a buncha clips of one of the guitarists I used to see a lot in Toronto, Lenny Breau. Lenny died young, but was already a legend by the time somebody took him out. He'd studied classical guitar with Segovia, flam- enco with masters of that genre, had played country music with Chet Atkins, and brought all of those influences to a very personal jazz style. The man could play entire solos in harmonics. Lenny playing Bach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My78PblnVhU Lenny at 20, a version of Georgia On My Mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limCRMZD1Ec And here's a kind of talking clip, produced by one of his mentors (Chet Atkins) in which Lenny talks about the influence of another one, Carlos Montoya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGcJAA4S6HQ
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillyG. Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya. --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. Dude! I wanted to reply to this post but now I don't have to, thanks! Boy, talk about childish, why don't you say something intelligent. You have the good karma to have known MMY (I assume), and the good karma to be on this group, but not the good karma to think intelligently. Why don't you post something *in context* with this group? isn't that what it was intended for by Rick Archer? Yeah, Curtis. When are you going to learn that conforming to my intentions is in your best interest? This would have been a perfect opportunity to bring up the Sexy Sadie file, BUT N. You have to go and make a frivolous comment. I’m crestfallen. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. Dude! I wanted to reply to this post but now I don't have to, thanks! Boy, talk about childish, why don't you say something intelligent. You have the good karma to have known MMY (I assume), and the good karma to be on this group, but not the good karma to think intelligently. Why don't you post something *in context* with this group? isn't that what it was intended for by Rick Archer? The above comments merely reveal the bankruptcy of you own moral life, grow up! Here's a lecture on sex and celibacy that Charlie Lutes gave: The Sacred Side of Sex - 4/28/81 As one grows spiritually one slowly moves towards celibacy Everything in nature comes in pairs; a male and a female expression of nature, such as in trees, fruits, flowers, animals, and also humans. In the human it is the feminine or negative side that is passive, but magnetic. It attracts to itself, it absorbs and stores potential energy. The male or positive side is electric or charged. When there is a union between the electric male and the magnetic female, the couple involved provide a conduit for cosmic force, which flows through them into the Earth plane with tremendous power. This power radiated by them, polarizes the surrounding atmosphere. The female at this time is surrounded by a corona of greenish-blue mystic light. There is actually a powerful cosmic force surrounding us at all times that seeks expression through polarization or sexual union. Therefore, because sex invokes a cosmic force it takes on a sacred meaning, as well as providing a vehicle for the incoming soul. Sex cannot be treated as an exercise in eroticism with an orgasmic overtone. Sex, solely due to the abuse of it, has brought to humans disease, suffering and death. Basically, there is nothing wrong with sex. It is the human misinterpretation and misuse that is wrong. That which is of God and carries a sacred connotation cannot be profaned by humanity. Yet, it is true that for millions of people on Earth, sex is the only joy in life that they know. However, because the human is a self-contained universe, sex really brings two universes together to produce - by the holy process of reproduction - a third and, so on ad infinitum. God, in the process of reproducing himself, merges one part of himself into another in order to bring forth a third; the trinity functioning in a triad world. The seeds of immortality are in and a part of the human. Again, the main thrust of sex is to bring into this world higher and higher souls and not to profane sex through lust and bring in lower and lower souls and sow the seeds of destruction in the world, such as we now see - humans wantonly killing one another. In the man it is the feminine force that is passive and in the woman it is the masculine force that is passive, and before either one can be liberated these forces must be awakened. This is done through the near perfect union of soul to soul, mind to mind and body to body, a true affinity. Thereby, a balance in the female magnetic and the male electric forces is affected. As a result of the merging of the magnetic and electric forces the two combined create an electromagnetic field of force that is all-encompassing. The all-absorbing female force field unites in perfect harmony with the dynamic and kinetic power of the male in a near perfect union. The energy generated through this male-female union is far greater than anything they can generate separately - because acting together they are able to draw to themselves a great portion of the cosmic energy that exists around them. This in turn sets every atom into a higher vibration. Also at this time, because of the polarization created around them, an impenetrable barrier to every form of evil that might approach or attack them is established. Because there is a bio-electrical exchange of energy between two partners there is an intensification of sensitivity in the body, mind and soul. The body becomes sensual, the mind becomes more telepathic and the soul intuitional. This is so because the sexual union unlocks normally unused power shared between the partners. The universe itself is one indivisible matrix of cosmic force and this force is always seeking release or expression through a union of its opposite energies. So it seeks release in a couple who become a channel of discharge for this unique force. Sex between two partners can take them to heaven or it can become hell, it can bestow greater health or it can cause disease and disability. Two right people together in love are one thing, but a wrong couple together is most
[FairfieldLife] Mike Huckabee: Playing Both Sides of the Pulpit
Mike Huckabee: Playing Both Sides of the Pulpit http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2007/12/huckabee- homosexuality-environmentalism-book.html WASHINGTON DISPATCH: The candidate says he wants to unite the country. But in a 1998 book, Huckabee was a fierce culture warrior, equating environmentalism with pornography, homosexuality with necrophilia, and nonbelievers with evildoers. By David Corn December 17, 2007
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Curtis. When are you going to learn that conforming to my intentions is in your best interest? This would have been a perfect opportunity to bring up the Sexy Sadie file, BUT N. You have to go and make a frivolous comment. I'm crestfallen. What a revoltin' development.:-) BillyG.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sacred Side of Sex - 4/28/81 As one grows spiritually one slowly moves towards celibacy Everything in nature comes in pairs; a male and a female expression snip Now you're talkin'...just printed it out!! Haven't read it yet! Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Interestingly, that is what I found most lacking. I've heard this song done, and by guitarists, and this same way, so many times that there was nothing inventive about it for me. OTOH, you think of Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grapelli as playing the same type of music...so one has to wonder just what it is you're hearing. snip Whatever floats your boat. I have to feel as if the player has something to say behind all the notes. If he doesn't, they are only notes. I didn't feel as if this guy had *any* kind of relationship with the song *except* as a series of notes. He didn't have anything to say, only notes to play. Or, you weren't hearing what he had to say. Abstract music is an acquired taste. You have to put something of yourself into it before you can get anything out of it. Other types of music are more accessible; it's all laid out for you up front. I prefer music whose performers aren't only telling me what they have to say but also giving me something that moves me to do my own saying, who allow me to participate in and complete the music on my own terms. I don't know how much, if anything, this guy has to say with his music. But this piece, at any rate, triggered stuff in *my* head that was quite enjoyable. Didn't blow me away, but didn't leave me sitting there with my thumb up my nose either. snip The tell for me is in his face, not his fingers. He's not having any FUN. He's com- pletely in his head, watching the tech of the playing. Barry. Don't assume that because you don't have any fun in your head, it isn't there to be had (or that you'd be able to see it in the face or body of the person having it). I didn't get the feeling that a note of this was actually improvised when I first heard it, and I feel the same way now. My bet is that if you saw him at the next Starbucks on his tour, you'd hear exactly the same performance, note for note. I believe that's what I said, that he's got it engraved in stone. Perhaps you missed that part of my post.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shingon Buddhism and Syncretism in Brazil
Vaj wrote: Shingon Buddhism... Shingon, is Esoteric Buddhism, which is based on the tantric practices of the Vajrayana school in India. This practice utilizes ritual, mudra, mantra, and visualization practices which are similar to the practices found in Tibet, Mongolia, Bhutan and parts of China, India and Russia. I had the opportunity to learn this system when I lived in San Francisco from a teacher named Vajrabodhi Pemcheckov-Warwick, who was a master not only of Shingon but a master of Yamabushi, those who follow the Shungendo doctrine. Warwick was a close associate also of Lama Govinda, my first Tibetan guru. http://www.esswe.org/member_detail.php?member_id=195ref=5 http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/govinda.html This is a very intersting religion for anyone studying comparative religions. However, it should be pointed out that the goal of Shingon is the same goal that we TMers are advocating: namely enlightenment. The Buddha, Shakya the Muni, was the first historical yogin in India, and some say the founder of the enlighenment tradition. All the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists. There are several similarties between Esoteric Buddhism and the practice of TM. TM practice is almost pure tantrism and is based on some of the same priciples as the Vajrayana. TM can be described as a technique that utilizes a mnemonic device, as a thought tool for transcending. Thought tools are short sounds which have no semantic meaning. The word tantra is based on the idea of using thought tools: the word tantra actually means a thought tool, from tan, to think, and tra, a tool. In TM, a mantra is experienced just like any other thought. TM also utilizes some other tantric practices such as intiation, mudra, yantra, and puja. The origin of TM practice derives from the Sri Vidya tradition of Karnataka, a tradition which the Swami Brahmananda Saraswati advocated. SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand , was a member of the Dandi Swamis of Sringeri, the headquarters for all the Saraswati Dasanamis. The Sri Vidya is of course the western transmission of the tantric tradition of Kashmere, which was derived from the Siddha tradition of medieval India, the alchemists beginning with the likes of Matsyendranath and Nagarjuna. All the Dasanamis worship the Sri Vidya in the form of the Sri Yantra, a tradition which was first established by the Adi Shankara. The Adi Shankara was of course a quasi-Buddhist, having adopted the the appearance-only doctrine from the Vijnanavadins. Shankara also adopted the monastic system and the wearing of the ochre robe from the Buddhists. Adwaita Vedanta shares many doctrines with the Yogacharas and Trika Kashmeri tantrists. According to what I've read, Shankara adopted many of the tantric practices found in Indian tantric esotericism. The Adi Shankara placed the Sri Yantra (but not the Yab-Yum, which is only fond in Nepal) at the four seats of learning, and then he composed the Saundaryalahari for our understanding. The Saunda contains three of the TM bija mantras. Two TM bija mantras are inscribed on the Sri Yantra. TM has been be defined as: Transcendental Aloneness is withdrawal of the gunas, now without any purposes of Purusa; or it is the establishment of the power-of-consciousness in its own nature. - Yoga Sütra IV.34 Shankara's comment: Withdrawal is the flowing hack from conjunction, and reduction to their cause, of the gunas, now without any purpose of Purusha, though they are naturally ever-changing by assuming the nature of cause and effect: isolation of Puruhsa from being bound up with the gunas is Transcendental Aloneness (417). Work cited: Shankara on the Yoga Sutras A full translation of the newly discovered text. by Trevor Leggett Motilal Banarsidass, 1992 Shankara on the Yoga Sutras - Volume 2 The Vivarana sub-commentary to Vyasa-bhasya on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Translated by Trevor Leggett Routledge Kegan Paul, 1983
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
Now I'm thinking back. I got into opera when I was seeing a tenor in college, carnatic music when I was involved with a TM bliss-ninny, Celtic music with an Irishman, romantic ballads with a lounge singer... What an excellent way to develop broader music appreciation! I can totally relate since I pretty much dated myself into being an international cook! Sometimes it does take a person pointing out how they are listening to the music to appreciate it. I am a fan of the idea that it is always better to try to find a way to appreciate something if you can. Even if it never becomes close to your heart as some other styles, at least you have some tools of appreciation. Your experience of smoking weed and enjoying Jazz is probably no coincidence. I think most Jazz musicians were potheads, or did heroin. The weed state does enhance an appreciation of more intellectual music. Most of the old blues guys in my style drank more than smoked. Bonnie Raitt used to drink and do coke and not smoke weed purposely because it got her into the groove of the old blues feelings better. And just like you discovered, she can access that state without the drugs now. It can open up a door at first. I remember listening to Bob Marley for the first time stoned. It was a revelation. Hearing the Beatles St. Pepper on acid really brought out a 3-D element of that album. It is kind of amazing how we can access the perspective of those states afterwards without having to be in the state. I always feel stoned when I listen to Reggae now! I have a Christmas music CD with acoustic guitar where the performer starts with a classic and then spins it out further and further with a jazz feel. It is amazing how many ways he can just keep a thread of connection with the original. The same is true with Ragas so I think I do understand what you are enjoying in the variations. I think you nailed it with your question of whether or not I had heard the original song. Without that center I couldn't get to square one. Even with it I might not dig the style,but at least I would have a connection to its purpose. Excellent music rap, thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. They went about reconstructing expectations, systematically F'ing with each aspect of the music. I dig the concept of what they were doing. But I am left in my head with most of the results. I first got into jazz (I'm not that far into it, I should say, but I first started appreciating it) in my late 20s, when I was dating a jazz flautist and smoking a lot of dope. He brought over his favorite records, and we got high and listened, with him sort of guiding me in how to hear the music. I'm not sure I could have picked up on what was going on without both the chemical enhancement and his instruction, but fortunately the ability to appreciate it didn't go away after he was no longer around and I was no longer getting high. I remember we would sit and burst out in laughter at particularly delightful riffs. Oddly enough, even without the pot, that reaction has stayed with me and even extended to completely different types of music, even classical; I'll find myself laughing at a perfectly turned phrase or an ingenious modulation or a beautifully shaped cadenza. There's a kind of transcendence involved. Anyway, if a specific kind of music tends to leave me cold, I often find that listening to it with someone who knows it well and appreciates it has the effect of opening me to it. (That approach is especially effective if the other person is also a romantic interest!) Now I'm thinking back. I got into opera when I was seeing a tenor in college, carnatic music when I was involved with a TM bliss-ninny, Celtic music with an Irishman, romantic ballads with a lounge singer...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
The funny thing is that I am so out of the cosmic loop that I did think the comment was spiritual! For me sex is one of my most cherished experiences of being alive, and a profound connection with someone I love. It is my unity and GC all in one! I have to take a minute to remember the perspective that makes my POV wrong! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillyG. Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya. --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. Dude! I wanted to reply to this post but now I don't have to, thanks! Boy, talk about childish, why don't you say something intelligent. You have the good karma to have known MMY (I assume), and the good karma to be on this group, but not the good karma to think intelligently. Why don't you post something *in context* with this group? isn't that what it was intended for by Rick Archer? Yeah, Curtis. When are you going to learn that conforming to my intentions is in your best interest? This would have been a perfect opportunity to bring up the Sexy Sadie file, BUT N. You have to go and make a frivolous comment. I'm crestfallen. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Another meaty interview in Salon with a theologian on the relationship of science and religion. John Haught is a Roman Catholic theologian and a student of evolutionary biology who has proposed a theology of evolution. He has a book coming out called God and the New Atheism in which he takes the current crop of atheist authors to task for their lack of understanding of both religion and science. Excerpt: We have to distinguish between science as a method and what science produces in the way of discovery. As a method, science does not ask questions of purpose. But it's something different to look at the cumulative results of scientific thought and technology. From a theological point of view, that's a part of the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. That set of discoveries is not at all suggestive of a purposeless universe. Just the opposite. And what is the purpose? The purpose seems to be, from the very beginning, the intensification of consciousness. This is such crap, consciousness could have evolved any time in the last 500 million years, instead it waited for a chance event with a monkey which wouldn't have happened if a meteorite hadn't slammed into the earth wiping out the dominant reptiles. Oh yeah maybe that was an act of god. This is a case of a true believer not seeing the facts because of deeply held prejudice, it's the opposite of science. I think you really ought to read the whole interview. Nothing you said above is germane to what this chap is saying. I have to agree. (Of course Barry has to agree, just as he had to agree with Curtis that the guitar video wasn't any good, because it was I who posted about this interview, and because I liked the video.) To me this seems like the projection of purpose onto a universe that is in no need of one by someone who is in desperate need for one. As opposed to your desperate need for there to be no purpose, because that might suggest you weren't completely in control? Religionists need to see a purpose to life, because 1) they tend to have a need that someone or something guiding it or designed it, and 2) because they are deeply imprinted by dogma that's been telling them since they were born that there *is* a purpose to it all, and a designer behind the scenes. Or because they have the experiential sense that there is purpose. So *naturally* they look at the world and tend to see purpose and design behind it. Someone with no dogmatic alliances doesn't necessarily see the world that way. There is a precedence implied in the words that the author used in the excerpt above that's telling IMO, about the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. The religious visions have to stay intact, while integrating the world into *them*. Nope, just the opposite. If we are to consider our religious visions valid, he's saying, they have to be reconcilable with what we know about the world (via science). You've got it exactly backwards. That's what I think is going on with most attempts to justify religion with pseudo-science. If you're referring to this guy, there's no pseudo-science involved at all. He's talking straight evolutionary biology. What he's working on (as I said to start with) is a theology of evolution, a theology that's consistent with Darwin (and Einstein). He rejects Creationism and thinks Intelligent Design is neither authentically scientific nor authentically religious. (He testified against the ID folks in the Dover trial.) It's making the results fit the dogma, drawing bulleyes around the arrows. It's the same thing we see in the TMO ME studies. The results of a large group of people bouncing on their butts is a foregone conclusion because that is part of the religious vision and thus sacrosanct. The facts must be integrated *into* these religious visions, even if a lot of squishing square pegs into round holes is involved, because the visions represent truth. Nope nope nope. Exactly the opposite with this fellow. And they suggest that atheists are deluded? :-) Actually, if you had READ THE INTERVIEW, you'd know he's an admirer of such atheists as Nietzsche, Sartre, and Camus, who faced squarely the nihilistic implications of the absence of a deity. For me, it's like what Curtis said earlier about a type of music he just doesn't get or resonate with. I just don't get the desire to find a purpose behind life. It's the *same* life, purpose or not. I could waste my incarnation pondering what it means and the whys of everything, or I could just enjoy the fact that life is pretty groovy. Haught says, We need a worldview
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
off wrote: If Huckabee, Gulianni, McCain or Romney become president with any kind of majority of power, I am leaving this country for good. That's a promise. That pretty much eliminates all the front-runners, unless you decide to vote for Hillary Clinton. But I didn't realize that you were a voter for the Republican Party. For some reason, I always thought that you were a liberal Democrat who would vote for a John Kerry or an Al Gore. McCain would enter the White House with deep knowledge of national-security and foreign-policy issues. He knows war, something we believe would make him reluctant to start one. He's also a fierce defender of civil liberties. Read more: 'Republican endorsement editorial: Why McCain' Des Moines Register, December 15, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/29rhxm The antidote to such a toxic political approach is John McCain. The iconoclastic senator from Arizona has earned his reputation for straight talk by actually leveling with voters, even at significant political expense. The Globe endorses his bid in the New Hampshire Republican primary. Read more: 'For the Republicans: John McCain' Boston Globe, December 15, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/yq6nps On Jan. 8, New Hampshire Republicans will make one of the most important choices for their party and nation in the history of our presidential primary. Their choice ought to be John McCain. Read more: 'John McCain is the man to lead America' By Joseph W. McQuaid, Publisher Union Leader, Sunday, Dec. 2, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3bpgqs
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
Fascinating and tragic guy, thanks! I also found a duet with Chet on youtube. I never heard of him. Very eclectic player. Maybe Vaj can answer this question, how many jazz guys use a thumb pick like Lenny? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to think of guitarists who had some- thing to say, I searched YouTube and found a buncha clips of one of the guitarists I used to see a lot in Toronto, Lenny Breau. Lenny died young, but was already a legend by the time somebody took him out. He'd studied classical guitar with Segovia, flam- enco with masters of that genre, had played country music with Chet Atkins, and brought all of those influences to a very personal jazz style. The man could play entire solos in harmonics. Lenny playing Bach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My78PblnVhU Lenny at 20, a version of Georgia On My Mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limCRMZD1Ec And here's a kind of talking clip, produced by one of his mentors (Chet Atkins) in which Lenny talks about the influence of another one, Carlos Montoya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGcJAA4S6HQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Electric piano?
cardemaister wrote: What kind (brand) of electric piano would you buy if your main purpose was just to learn to play some simple boogie woogie -type riffs? I like (and own) both Yamaha and Casio keyboards. I have an old PSR-400 I take to jams. Fortunately (but I don't know how much this is true where you live) good keyboards can be had fairly inexpensively. That PSR-400 probably cost me about $400 over 10 years ago but better instruments can be had these days for around $100. Be sure to get one that has velocity sensitive keys. BTW, my main keyboard which is too heavy to carry around is an Ensoniq TS-12 which is fully weighted touch like a grand piano. In a crazy way I was almost thinking of getting an inexpensive new Yamaha to replace the PSR-400 so I can load some of my midi arrangements on it (like the California Christmas tune) for more fun at jams. My relatives love playing Christmas songs on Christmas Eve and we have a new young keyboardist in the family who is quite exceptional at age 7. You might look up The Piano Guy on the web. He has some very simple ways of teaching keyboards and you may be able to find his video episode where he had a boogie-woogie specialist show simple ways of playing it. I also got Doctor John's books and videos but unless you have the hands to play Liszt it was a little daunting. IOW, he does and plays some pretty wide 10th stretches.
[FairfieldLife] Redefining Christmas
Now all you need to do is figure out what your friend's and relative's favorite charity is: http://redefinechristmas.org/ (And that may not be easy either).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The funny thing is that I am so out of the cosmic loop that I did think the comment was spiritual! For me sex is one of my most cherished experiences of being alive, and a profound connection with someone I love. It is my unity and GC all in one! I have to take a minute to remember the perspective that makes my POV wrong! It all depends upon one's definition of spiritual. I submit for your perusal poems by Zen Master Ikkyu: Ten days In the monastery Made me restless. The red thread On my feet Is long and unbroken. If one day you come Looking for me, Ask for me At the fishmonger's, In the tavern, Or in the brothel. ** The autumn breeze of a single night of love is better than a hundred thousand years of sterile sitting meditation. ** A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. And the Sixth Dalai Lama (the original Turquoise Bee): White teeth smiling Brightness of skin. On my seat in the high lama's row At the quick edge of my glance I caught her looking at me. ** By drawing diagrams on the ground The stars of space can be measured. Though familiar with the soft flesh Of my lover's body I cannot measure her depths. ** If young girls never died There would be no need to brew beer. At such a time This is a young man's surest source of refuge. ** The meeting place for me and my love Is the dense forest of the southern valley. Except for the chattering parrot No one knows about it. Please, talkative parrot Don't give away our secret. ** People talk about me. What they say may be true. But just three short steps Take me to the wine house of my lover. ** Don't tell me, Tsangyang! you're depraved. Just like you I desire pleasure and comfort, too. ** Meditating, my lama's face Does not shine in my mind. Unbidden my lover's face Again and again appears. ** I sought my lover at twilight Snow fell at daybreak. Residing at the Potala I am Rigdzin Tsangyang Gyatso But in the back alleys of Shol-town I am rake and stud Secret or not No matter. Footprints have been left in the snow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: The funny thing is that I am so out of the cosmic loop that I did think the comment was spiritual! For me sex is one of my most cherished experiences of being alive, and a profound connection with someone I love. It is my unity and GC all in one! I have to take a minute to remember the perspective that makes my POV wrong! It all depends upon one's definition of spiritual. I submit for your perusal poems by Zen Master Ikkyu: Ten days In the monastery Made me restless. The red thread On my feet Is long and unbroken. If one day you come Looking for me, Ask for me At the fishmonger's, In the tavern, Or in the brothel. You can't really keep your mind on God in a brothel! ** The autumn breeze of a single night of love is better than a hundred thousand years of sterile sitting meditation. He's talking about true love, not that which is found in a brothel! ** A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. In shortit's holy! And the Sixth Dalai Lama (the original Turquoise Bee): White teeth smiling Brightness of skin. On my seat in the high lama's row At the quick edge of my glance I caught her looking at me. Mother Divine, perhaps? ** By drawing diagrams on the ground The stars of space can be measured. Though familiar with the soft flesh Of my lover's body I cannot measure her depths. Because she's pretty shallow!! ** If young girls never died There would be no need to brew beer. At such a time This is a young man's surest source of refuge. That's why he's called a 'boy'! ** The meeting place for me and my love Is the dense forest of the southern valley. Except for the chattering parrot No one knows about it. Please, talkative parrot Don't give away our secret. Right, he'd be tarred and feathered and run out of town!! ** People talk about me. What they say may be true. But just three short steps Take me to the wine house of my lover. Where I get drunk and puke all the next morning! ** Don't tell me, Tsangyang! you're depraved. Just like you I desire pleasure and comfort, too. That's why he's called a boy! ** Meditating, my lama's face Does not shine in my mind. Unbidden my lover's face Again and again appears. Twas the devil in disguise, come on'! ** I sought my lover at twilight Snow fell at daybreak. Residing at the Potala I am Rigdzin Tsangyang Gyatso But in the back alleys of Shol-town I am rake and stud Secret or not No matter. Footprints have been left in the snow. Send the police immediately!! :-) I see why Judy likes tearing your posts apart! :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya. The funny thing is that I am so out of the cosmic loop that I did think the comment was spiritual! For me sex is one of my most cherished experiences of being alive, and a profound connection with someone I love. It is my unity and GC all in one! I have to take a minute to remember the perspective that makes my POV wrong! Surely you realize I was joking. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I have to agree. (Of course Barry has to agree, just as he had to agree with Curtis that the guitar video wasn't any good, because it was I who posted about this interview, and because I liked the video.) Try not to project so much, Judy. That's YOUR act, as I'm sure *anyone* here would agree. I just happen to agree with hugheshugo, as I often have in the past. Besides, if you were right and I *was* agreeing with him just to disagree with you, wouldn't the fact that you compulsively replied when you have only two posts left for the week look kinda *stupid* on your part, given your claims that you have such power over me? :-) Have fun with your last post, Judy. Will you spend it replying angrily to this post, or save it for something actually worth saying? Duh. Does a bear shit in the woods? She'll probably even claim that she has 2 posts left, not one, and thus can respond to this one *and* use another one to dump on me further. :-) ( She actually might have two left...my count *could* be nothing but a guess. But now she'll have to go back and count to be sure. It sounds cruel, but it's not really my fault...Judy has such power over me that she's *making* me post all this stuff *so that* she can waste her posts compulsively replying to it. )
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
The funny thing is that I am so out of the cosmic loop that I did think the comment was spiritual! For me sex is one of my most cherished experiences of being alive, and a profound connection with someone I love. It is my unity and GC all in one! I have to take a minute to remember the perspective that makes my POV wrong! Surely you realize I was joking. I knew you were. I wonder if Billy was too? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:57 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This is what Ron Paul said about Mike Huckabee's use of the cross in a recent TV ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4 Good for Ron Paul. The idea of a Creationist in the White House gives me goose- bumps. How could someone who doesn't believe basic science even be considered for such an important office? I agree. It looks like Ron Paul was drugged by Fox news, I wouldn't be surprised, they are a truly evil empire. Huckabee is a medieval ass and once stated he though all women should stay at home as housewives. Sounds like a certain guru from India we all know...get your degree and then stay at home and support your husband... I agree, I think that is stupid if an indian guru said that. I mean, if the women are all enlightened or levitating as claimed, then do you really think the women will stay at home washing dishes? Lol. Get real. So the only hope for humankind, as I have stated many times, is not religious ideals, but research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off wrote: If Huckabee, Gulianni, McCain or Romney become president with any kind of majority of power, I am leaving this country for good. That's a promise. That pretty much eliminates all the front-runners, unless you decide to vote for Hillary Clinton. But I didn't realize that you were a voter for the Republican Party. For some reason, I always thought that you were a liberal Democrat who would vote for a John Kerry or an Al Gore. No, I was never interested in those guys. I am interested in Ron Paul a traditional republican. Other than that, Obama would be my choice. I don't go by football team mentality like most people who wo't change parties no matter what. (Just like I only go by peer-reviewed research whichever way it goes regarding TM, unlike the anti-science crowd on FFL that want to take us back to the dark ages) McCain would enter the White House with deep knowledge of national-security and foreign-policy issues. He knows war, something we believe would make him reluctant to start one. I doubt that. He may get the nomination, but he will not get elected. Ron Paul is the republicans' only chance. Now watch my new video I made on Ron Paul, below. Put the good speakers on. (it is a work in progress, that I will spend about an hour a week on just for fun, when I am bored, and it will evolve unlike Mike Huuckabee and the non-evolving christian fundies :-) http://youtube.com/watch?v=0gzwdSGS5_wwatch_response OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
Hey BillyG, hands off Curtis -- I'm the one who first started calling him immoral so he's my bitch, go get your own. May I suggest that you and Turq seem perfect for each other? Curtis: As harsh as I have been on you, I have never actually thought of you as morally bankrupt or even behind on your bills. You did recently write about loving yer woman, so points for that, but I'M WATCHIN' YA, I'M WATCHIN' YA. ;-) I don't grok BillyG enough to know where he's coming from, but it's hard to want to know his POV if he takes cheap shots like the below without backing up his play with a ton of blurbification peppered with axioms -- which, it seems from here, he's incapable of doing. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh dear child, pass the nunnery and seek thee the brightness of a good whorehouse. Your thoughts have taken up a dark and poisonous residency of which pleasure is the only antidote. Dude! I wanted to reply to this post but now I don't have to, thanks! Boy, talk about childish, why don't you say something intelligent. You have the good karma to have known MMY (I assume), and the good karma to be on this group, but not the good karma to think intelligently. Why don't you post something *in context* with this group? isn't that what it was intended for by Rick Archer? The above comments merely reveal the bankruptcy of you own moral life, grow up!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Your experience of smoking weed and enjoying Jazz is probably no coincidence. I think most Jazz musicians were potheads, or did heroin. The weed state does enhance an appreciation of more intellectual music. It sort of expands the territory that's open to exploration, activates more synapses or something, so you can make more connections than you normally would (albeit sometimes on the order of, Holy crap, I hear footsteps outside the door--quick, flush the weed, it must be the fuzz!). But sometimes it results in your making connections that not everyone can follow. My flautist guy adored Ornette Coleman, but I was never able to hear where he was going, and I really worked at it. (My sister loves contemporary classical electronic music, was giving me recordings of it for a while, but it just doesn't sound like music to me. OTOH, she doesn't get Bach, my classical fave.) Most of the old blues guys in my style drank more than smoked. Bonnie Raitt used to drink and do coke and not smoke weed purposely because it got her into the groove of the old blues feelings better. If what weed facilitates in jazz is exploration, talk a little about the nature of exploration in the kind of blues you play (which isn't facilitated by pot). What is it that you're exploring, can you say? What are the boundaries you're going beyond? What's the new territory you find yourself in? (Do those questions make any sense?) snip It is amazing how many ways he can just keep a thread of connection with the original. The same is true with Ragas so I think I do understand what you are enjoying in the variations. I think you nailed it with your question of whether or not I had heard the original song. Without that center I couldn't get to square one. Yeah, I couldn't hear a lot of the underlying changes he was riffing on at first; I had to play a couple other versions of the song before I could sort of triangulate on them. BTW, here's Bing Crosby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkz3hmISfOs Amazing in its own way. Even with it I might not dig the style,but at least I would have a connection to its purpose. Excellent music rap, thanks! Yes, great fun!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
The land belongs to the VedaLand project. If VedaLand went bankrupt then that 170 million $$ should be returned to the investors. How can TM-org clean out the investors through their asses and pocket the cool 170 million dollars.?? Heh Heh, promised everyone that they would become rich.?? Is any investor going to the court of law over that 170 million dollars.?? boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:01:23 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land?? Speaking of which, does anyone, perhaps someone in Florida, know about the sale of the Vedaland land in Florida? I hear rumours it's about to be sold for about $170 million, but have no good source on it. I'm curious because because Vedaland went bankrupt and all its investors lost 100% of their investment, but apparently the TMO actually bought and owns the land in Florida that was to be used for Vedaland, and they're about to make a killing on it. I'd like to understand how that happened - not that I'm surprised it did. Note -- MMY was personally involved in a couple of the Vedaland fundraising phone calls to Canada and the US and MMY promised everyone that they would become rich if they invested in Vedaland. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. What Great Joy to search this youtube thingy ! Jazz ? A small taste of ECM: Piano, Keith Jarret, http://youtube.com/watch?v=AzVNzeXM0EE http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpSVQFXC9hcfeature=relatedBobo Stenson http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNfP3_KoVJUfeature=related saxophone: Jan Garbarek, http://youtube.com/watch?v=hYCpl2lKlj8feature=related (5 minutes into this one the fun begins, from WitchiTaiTo) Guitar:/John Scofield/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=4FSxGDHjfSw - please play this one very loud :-) /Bill Frisell http://youtube.com/watch?v=G8morZn3bSw http://youtube.com/watch?v=ThVKeFtyyrA http://youtube.com/watch?v=8m7iXZCXv14 /Terje Rypdal, http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ML3Pj5AijYfeature=related fun starts after 5 minutes...) http://youtube.com/watch?v=VPhSKFo3nVcfeature=related /Ry Cooder http://youtube.com/watch?v=FfTphi7aoW0feature=related bass: Marc Johnson/Eberhard Weber/Charlie Haden/Gary Peacock, http://youtube.com/watch?v=lSUkl0SJ5Zk http://youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-MxTq_h44feature=related drums; Zakir Hussain/Peter Erskin/Jon Christensen/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Vri14auJrYfeature=related http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y_XFE43cP_Efeature=related /jack de johnette http://youtube.com/watch?v=mTSyPLpYiqsfeature=related - http://youtube.com/watch?v=qnD5E5mrxIsfeature=related You'll find them all, except Ry Cooder, on ECM ofcourse. Get the real stuff, these websounds are to my ears as edg's unchecked rants are to my eyes... Enjoy :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoon of the Week
do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/16/07 12:46:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, what makes you think he ignored the PDB? All information was passed onto the FBI. Your blaming this on the FBI? LOL! No, that must be your paranoid imagination, again. I, unlike you, am not blaming anybody except the terrorists. I'm saying without specific information there wasn't anything he could do about a threat except hand it over to the FBI. Can you imagine the field day your ilk would have had if Bush had put in place all the screening we have today at airports before 911? The cries of fascism would have been deafening and had they worked and prevented an attack, you would never have believed there was one planned in the first place and it was prevented. You've ignored what I wrote. You've surely ignored the obvious facts that are out there and you can only make excuses for your pal Bush and his incompetent criminal crew. There's no getting through to you. It's like talking to to a mannequin. Maybe you also ignore polls. Fortunately for the USA, willfully blind right wing ideologues like you are really in a fast dwindling small minority. Either that or he's doesn't believe in anything he posts as he's just having fun jerking strings around here. Why do I think that? Well, I think that he favored Mitt Romney says a lot and almost suggests that he picks points of view guaranteed to push liberal buttons. What he says above about screenings is really ludicrous and looks patently to be provocative rather than insightful. And what terrorists? Anti-abortion terrorists have been more problematic than any possible Islamic terrorists in this country. What we have in the US with Muslims is their teenage kid gets religion and decides to wander off much to his folks chagrin to some terrorist camp in the Middle East, decides it's a drag and returns home not wanting to have anything to do with terrorism and maybe even Islam. But the FBI figures they can make an example of him and coerce him (or his folks) into falsely admitting to be terrorists.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mexicans are coming! The Mexicans are coming!
For 200 years the British Pound was the World Reserve Currency and the French Franc was the second World reserve currency. Winston Churchill almost destroyed the British manufacturing by fixing an artificialy high value for the Pound. The Soviets printed out more Roubles as it's industrial white elephants made loss after loss and it economy slipped into the Red. Now you guys print out more and more of that Green toilet paper Dollar bills to pay off your 'Debts'. There are billions of floating dollars in the world financial system that never reach the American shores.!! How long this is going to go on.?? The World Financial system is skewed and obsolete. In a True Capitalistic Financial system a basket case of Currencies should compete with each other. Just as Economies compete with each other and Corporates compete with each other in a Capitalistic system. Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:44:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Mexicans are coming! The Mexicans are coming! That is a little too optimistic. I think that right after WWII the US had a very creative period but it sort of petered out. Now emerging countries are taking that role. Our limelight is over and it is time to settle down and chill out (as you say). This whole angst that the NeoCons had was over the US losing its role in the world. But history tells us that countries that insist on being in the limelight all the time become perceived as assholes. Look at the British who once had an empire. It's going to be hard for Americans as we consumed 25% of the world's resources and yet were only 7% of the population. To the rest of the world we look like spoiled brats. One of these mornings a lot of people are going to wake up to find that their jobs are no longer there (as some people are finding slowly). The boomers are going to find their too old to switch careers and no one will hire them anyway. I've always said the best thing that could happen is an economic crash so that things get evened out. It has to take out the wealthy and the big corporations too. It would be a little humble pie for the once great nation. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoon of the Week
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: Your blaming this on the FBI? LOL! No, that must be your paranoid imagination, again. I, unlike you, am not blaming anybody except the terrorists. I'm saying without specific information there wasn't anything he could do about a threat except hand it over to the FBI. Can you imagine the field day your ilk would have had if Bush had put in place all the screening we have today at airports before 911? The cries of fascism would have been deafening and had they worked and prevented an attack, you would never have believed there was one planned in the first place and it was prevented. You've ignored what I wrote. You've surely ignored the obvious facts that are out there and you can only make excuses for your pal Bush and his incompetent criminal crew. There's no getting through to you. It's like talking to to a mannequin. Maybe you also ignore polls. Fortunately for the USA, willfully blind right wing ideologues like you are really in a fast dwindling small minority. Either that or he's doesn't believe in anything he posts as he's just having fun jerking strings around here. Why do I think that? Well, I think that he favored Mitt Romney says a lot and almost suggests that he picks points of view guaranteed to push liberal buttons. What he says above about screenings is really ludicrous and looks patently to be provocative rather than insightful. And what terrorists? Anti-abortion terrorists have been more problematic than any possible Islamic terrorists in this country. You very well may be right, Bhairitu. Actually Dixon reminds me of George macaca Allen (R-VA) who lost his ass against Jim Webb in the last Senate race: See video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90z0PMnKwI What we have in the US with Muslims is their teenage kid gets religion and decides to wander off much to his folks chagrin to some terrorist camp in the Middle East, decides it's a drag and returns home not wanting to have anything to do with terrorism and maybe even Islam. But the FBI figures they can make an example of him and coerce him (or his folks) into falsely admitting to be terrorists.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey BillyG, hands off Curtis -- I'm the one who first started calling him immoral so he's my bitch, go get your own. May I suggest that you and Turq seem perfect for each other? Curtis: As harsh as I have been on you, I have never actually thought of you as morally bankrupt or even behind on your bills. You did recently write about loving yer woman, so points for that, but I'M WATCHIN' YA, I'M WATCHIN' YA. ;-) I don't grok BillyG enough to know where he's coming from, but it's hard to want to know his POV if he takes cheap shots like the below without backing up his play with a ton of blurbification peppered with axioms -- which, it seems from here, he's incapable of doing. Edg I was talking about Curtis via Mr. Fishey, Curtis is cool man!, he can take it!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
This is madness. Sheer madness. Small permanent meditation centres are what the TM-mov't really needs. Small meditation groups in small localities can really purify the World Consciousness and create World Peace.!! You don't really need 13 Tallest buildings and Pyramids. A much more flattened network of plain old vanilla TM meditating groups can create wonders. Sometimes I feel that TM-org does not really want to create World Peace. Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:12:43 -0600 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land?? Another fun trick the TMO has used on several occasions is to have local sidhas raise the money for a TM Center, telling them it would be a permanent home for the movement in their area, then sell the building a few years later, move the money overseas, and tell the locals they have to raise more money if they want another one. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] My Replies to Outside Guitar
It was interesting to read the replies to my A Little Outside Guitar topic. As a jazz musician myself the replies told me more about people here than reading months of posts. I would just wonder how many here went to see (and not necessarily hear) Charles Lloyd because he was into TM and not because of his music? My sixties rock group opened for Charles Lloyd a few times and used to chat with Keith Jarrett, Ron McClure and Jack DeJohnette (Charles was usually off in his own space somewhere). Many of the replies were very humorous, so much so I sent an email about the topic to a good friend who not only can play that kind of guitar but taught it too and being a one time TM'er reads FFL occasionally for kicks. All of us who have played jazz professionally have heard these comments many times when we played gigs. The funniest one was when someone would come up to the stage and tell us we were playing too many dis chords and the keyboard player would say which one dis chord or dat chord. :) Many jazz musicians have very well rounded music educations. I can assure some of you that guitarist just improvised that whole session and would probably play it differently the next time. He can probably play you an evening of those tunes and probably riff around your own favorite tunes like you've never heard before. You could also drop a lead sheet on his music stand of a tune he's never heard before and he'd do a bang up job the first time around. That's why some of us go to music school and study with the best. It pays off but mostly in satisfaction as there are many starving musicians who can play circles around your favorite pop performer. And your favorite pop performer's PR person might even be hiding the fact that they studied seriously both classical and jazz because they want to perpetuate the Horatio Alger phenomenon that anyone can be a star. I never watch American Idol but last spring while channel surfing I watching the show for a few moments because they had a kid on their singing his ass off with a great jazzy performance. When he finished to rousing applause the judges were overwhelmed. The one said you took a great chance in doing that as half the audience would love it and the other half hate it. The judge was spot on. But if I recall right that kid made it all the way down to the the last two finalists and may have actually won. Jazz is an acquired taste as Judy pointed out. It is interesting what associations people develop with certain kinds of music, some positive and some negative. Most professional musicians appreciate all forms of music as long as it is performed well. I wouldn't be surprised if that jazz guitarist could rock with the best of them or have a great evening of playing blues with Curtis and even play a country gig (you'd be surprised at the jazz backgrounds of many country artists). Since I was a kid commercials and pop music has transformed where chord changes that would have been considered too jazzy back in the the 1950's are now common place. As a teenager I didn't care that much for rock but wound up playing it weekends in rock bands (beat working after school in fast food joints). I was already an arranger/composer so showed some of my rock musician buddies (who also had some jazz backgrounds) some cool chords I had picked up from the score to Quincy Jone's Jessica's Day which was published in Downbeat magazine (gone are those days due to the DMCA). They built those into rock tunes. There are many great standards with interesting chord changes. When I taught jazz keyboard I would give students early on Autumn Leaves as it was a great drill in the cycle of fourths and quickly got them into jazz changes. Then I would follow up with All the Things You Are which also goes through the cycle of fourths but with modulations. Those two tunes plus some easy blues pieces got them up and running and playing in the school stage band even playing solos. Yeah you hear a lot of those tunes over Muzak but you'll also hear the Beatles there too. If you ever wonder why I'm so cynical just try the life of a jazz musician next time. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Shift Happens part 2
http://tinyurl.com/2bqghd Not as boundary breaking as the first video, but worth the view. Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
cardemaister wrote: http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/George_Wettling.html Collier's Clambake Wettling's short simple snare drum intro is for me strangely full of meaning, both emotional and intellectual. When I listen to that tune I usually repeat the drum intro several times in a vain attempt to understand why on earth that sounds so good to me. I guess I couldn't care less if that same intro was played by, say, Buddy Rich. I'm afraid it would lack all the weird warmth I perceive in Wettling's playing. Of course, YMMV... You'd probably like Max Roach and Art Blakey who both played musical drum solos. Drums are my performance instrument where I studied the most and developed pro skills. Keyboard is my secondary though I have rarely played keyboards in bands. The Out of Nowhere guitar soloist is doing some riffs where he plays over the time. I did that a lot in my drum solos. That's how you get that transcendental feelings out. By this I mean your riff breaks over the bar lines usually taking 4 measures to resolve back to one or the and after one which is BTW is the meaning to bebop because the phrase ends on the off beat making the next solo phrase easy to pick up. Jazz crowds get wowed by this and it is a thrill and accomplishment to make those riffs work.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Replies to Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was interesting to read the replies to my A Little Outside Guitar topic. As a jazz musician myself the replies told me more about people here than reading months of posts. I would just wonder how many here went to see (and not necessarily hear) Charles Lloyd because he was into TM and not because of his music? My sixties rock group opened for Charles Lloyd a few times and used to chat with Keith Jarrett, Ron McClure and Jack DeJohnette (Charles was usually off in his own space somewhere). Nice piece of namedropping ;-) Anyways, anyone know what Charles Lloyd is up to, apart from playing, eh, rather boringly ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AcwnScNM9M
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Replies to Outside Guitar
nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was interesting to read the replies to my A Little Outside Guitar topic. As a jazz musician myself the replies told me more about people here than reading months of posts. I would just wonder how many here went to see (and not necessarily hear) Charles Lloyd because he was into TM and not because of his music? My sixties rock group opened for Charles Lloyd a few times and used to chat with Keith Jarrett, Ron McClure and Jack DeJohnette (Charles was usually off in his own space somewhere). Nice piece of namedropping ;-) Anyways, anyone know what Charles Lloyd is up to, apart from playing, eh, rather boringly ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AcwnScNM9M What can I say? It happened. And over and over again. I happened to know a very famous movie director too, before he became famous. Maybe something to do with Saturn being the my 10th house (friend of the king)? But I pale compared to another TM'er I know who worked for a very famous movie star. One can always play the humble game but that's all it winds up being: a game. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
But sometimes it results in your making connections that not everyone can follow. Perfectly nails down the problem with performing on weed! If what weed facilitates in jazz is exploration, talk a little about the nature of exploration in the kind of blues you play (which isn't facilitated by pot). What is it that you're exploring, can you say? What are the boundaries you're going beyond? What's the new territory you find yourself in? (Do those questions make any sense?) The question may make more sense than my answer! Here are some thoughts: When I was first learning to perform I experimented with it. (What I mean to say is that I read an article in a magazine about a guy who experimented a bit and am reporting it here in the first person for dramatic effect...) The main difference with weed is how it effected my sense of time. It allowed me to discover how much I could slow down some parts of a piece to make them really hypnotic. I have carried that insight into my current straight performances. I think what Bonnie was noticing is that it can make you a bit detached (which changes your relationship with your emotions.) I think Bonnie believed that it buffered her feelings in a way that booze didn't for her. It all comes out in your phrasing, and how connected she felt to her music. It may have effected how she felt about it more that what the audience heard. There are a lot of choices with dissonant notes with slide playing and bending harp notes differently that can be experimented with. If they serve the purpose of conveying the meaning better it can assist, or if not, be a distraction. This is the texture that I am always wrestling with when I play acoustic blues. You asked about chops in a previous email. I think musicians all need monster chops, which they may or may not reveal in a given moment. Restraint is the key to avoid getting carried away with yourself technically, I believe. There really can be too many notes, IMO. (although not in Mozart!) With alcohol,(I only drink a bit at certain small club gigs, other gigs are totally straight), it can enhance my connection to the emotion of the song up to a point. I video all my shows, and I sometimes learn some spontaneous phrasing that was a gift of the bourbon. I can use them in straight performances later. But it is a tricky line to walk because it is easy to get more caught up in your own emotion than you are getting your audience to feel. That is a disaster. (or so I've read!) Now I am working with a classically trained singing teacher who is helping me understand all the different ways I can bring or withdraw my awareness and emotion while I am performing. I have always been what my teacher calls a generous performer, laying it all out all the time. This is not always a good thing. She is teaching me a different wisdom about how much of my self I want to spend at any given moment. I am learning more about how to draw an audience in with some introspective phrasing, and then let them have it when I get to a part where I want to turn it up. The emotional dynamics part. By enhancing what my audience hears, I am getting a better buzz from the performance myself. I definitely need all my synapses firing to pull off what I am attempting to do musically. You'll hear the difference on my next CD when I get it finished and can post some samples. Bonnie Raitt said that when Stevie Ray got straight and played with the same or better passion, all blues musicians lost their last excuse! I really believe that is true. But I sure have no regrets for my past, it is all a part of how I hear music. You expressed that value very well. BTW, here's Bing Crosby: I love these guys playing old records onto youtube! I recently did a search for Big Boy Crudupp's original version of Elvis's first recording, That's Alright Mama and sure enough some record collector had it up. As a side note, I was blown away at how precisely Elvis had ripped off the guy's singing style. Back to Bing, that helped a lot, thanks. Now I can hear what it was all about. what a mood he created! I went back and listened to the guitar piece with much better appreciation. I also realized how I like this style of music, when I do. I need the guitar to be in breaks in between a chick in a skin tight dress with 40's red lipstick singing the song! Or like Astrid Gilberto backed by Jobim on guitar. Excellent music day! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip Your experience of smoking weed and enjoying Jazz is probably no coincidence. I think most Jazz musicians were potheads, or did heroin. The weed state does enhance an appreciation of more intellectual music. It sort of expands the territory that's open to exploration, activates more synapses or something, so you can make more connections than you
[FairfieldLife] The Creationist Morons
There are two types of evolutionists. Atheist evolutionists and Agnostic evolutionists. Religious Creationist morons don't really understand how Science works. This basic lack of understanding about the functioning of Science leads to erronous conclusions. Religious Creationists believe in a Personal God. Consequently a personalised design of the human body and the World. They don't understand Chaos theory either. Fear is the root cause of this. They fear this vast impersonal Universe and wrap themselves into a cocoon of cosy fairytale myths. Too bad the earth is no longer the centre of the Universe nor the Sun is the centre of the universe. The Sun is just another star among billions and billions of stars in this Galaxy. The human centric view of the universe is long since gone. Hundred years ago they taught that man was something special. No it's found out that we just happen to have a few choromosomes that make us slightly smarter than our cousin the Chimpanzee.!! http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/4/part2.html Now theories suggest that there are parallel universes.!! It's not a Universe but a Multiverse.!! The ever expanding fossil record has proved Darwin's theory of Evolution beyond a shadow of doubt. hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:06:43 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion This is such crap, consciousness could have evolved any time in the last 500 million years, instead it waited for a chance event with a monkey which wouldn't have happened if a meteorite hadn't slammed into the earth wiping out the dominant reptiles. Oh yeah maybe that was an act of god. This is a case of a true believer not seeing the facts because of deeply held prejudice, it's the opposite of science. Here's another excerpt: Evolution remains the thorniest issue in the ongoing debate over science and religion. But for all the yelling between creationists and scientists, there's one perspective that's largely absent from public discussions about evolution. We rarely hear from religious believers who accept the standard Darwinian account of evolution. It's a shame because there's an important question at stake: How can a person of faith reconcile the apparently random, meaningless process of evolution with belief in God? There is no ongoing debate between science and religion, but people like the intelligent design crowd like you to think there is. It's stark staringly obvious why you never hear from believers who understand Darwin, there aren't any. One doesn't believe in evolution one understands it, big difference. This is the problem with this entire debate, you have a bunch of people who don't actually understand something trying to shoe-horn their beliefs into somewhere that doesn't need them. Dawkins has a poor understanding of religious beliefs for sure, but in a way his knowledge is perfect because he understands that religion is the software running on the hardware that natural selection created. All you have to do is prove him wrong and you've expanded human knowledge. It's perfectly possible, Dawkins himself is fascinated by concepts of ultimate creators/consciousn es he's not as narrow minded as people like to paint him. None of these articles will prove him wrong however, they are just searching for wiggle room, it's called the god of the gaps wherever someone thinks science can't provide an explanation they try to use that as proof there is more in the sense of a controlling force. None of the arguments has stood up so far, and in the ever expanding sphere of knowledge the space for god gets smaller all the time. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Replies to Outside Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Many jazz musicians have very well rounded music educations. I can assure some of you that guitarist just improvised that whole session and would probably play it differently the next time. No kidding. I'm surprised. How can you tell? I wouldn't be surprised if that jazz guitarist could rock with the best of them or have a great evening of playing blues with Curtis and even play a country gig (you'd be surprised at the jazz backgrounds of many country artists). Check him out on YouTube, or his pages on LiveVideo.com: http://www.livevideo.com/DieselBodine He's got about 28 music videos at LiveVideo, self- categorized into blues, country, jazz, and rock, among others. His specialty seems to be making his own videos of tunes on which he plays multiple instruments and also does the vocals. I sampled a few and didn't find anything I liked much. On YouTube, he has 150 videos. He composes, arranges, etc., etc. And he does video commentaries on various topics, including Starbuck's. Also goes by the name Scott Crothers, it seems. Here's an acoustic guitar solo Barry might like better; he actually moves his head around a bit, although his expression doesn't change much (he does smile at the end): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPdQIYuT_xM Pleasant enough. Oh, my, here's one Barry should just love, called My Tribute to Django, Bodine's version of Nuages, playing lead and rhythm acoustic guitars, bass, and drums: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_5flWr_3Xc From the various comments he makes on his videos, I get the impression he's, well, a bit of a dork. He does appear to have something of a following, but I didn't see any actual performance videos with an audience, just him noodling around at home (or with fancy video special effects he's obviously done himself). Quite a character, and also, quite obviously, having more fun being himself than should be legal. I'm at 50, so ta-ta for now, gang. It's been real.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Creationist Morons
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing, all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. -- Gene Roddenberry Science without religion is lame, but Religion without Science is blind. - Albert Einstein TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:52:18 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion I have to agree. To me this seems like the projection of purpose onto a universe that is in no need of one by someone who is in desperate need for one. Religionists need to see a purpose to life, because 1) they tend to have a need that someone or something guiding it or designed it, and 2) because they are deeply imprinted by dogma that's been telling them since they were born that there *is* a purpose to it all, and a designer behind the scenes. So *naturally* they look at the world and tend to see purpose and design behind it. Someone with no dogmatic alliances doesn't necessarily see the world that way. There is a precedence implied in the words that the author used in the excerpt above that's telling IMO, about the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. The religious visions have to stay intact, while integrating the world into *them*. That's what I think is going on with most attempts to justify religion with pseudo-science. It's making the results fit the dogma, drawing bulleyes around the arrows. It's the same thing we see in the TMO ME studies. The results of a large group of people bouncing on their butts is a foregone conclusion because that is part of the religious vision and thus sacrosanct. The facts must be integrated *into* these religious visions, even if a lot of squishing square pegs into round holes is involved, because the visions represent truth. And they suggest that atheists are deluded? :-) For me, it's like what Curtis said earlier about a type of music he just doesn't get or resonate with. I just don't get the desire to find a purpose behind life. It's the *same* life, purpose or not. I could waste my incarnation pondering what it means and the whys of everything, or I could just enjoy the fact that life is pretty groovy. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Replies to Outside Guitar
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Many jazz musicians have very well rounded music educations. I can assure some of you that guitarist just improvised that whole session and would probably play it differently the next time. No kidding. I'm surprised. How can you tell? Nobody (except really stupid young jazz students) memorizes riffs. That's just what he felt like playing at the moment. If he actually memorized and wrote all those riffs he would be doing more work than most jazz musicians. There are certain scales and modes that work over certain chord changes. An experienced player doesn't even think about it, the fingers do it. There was a method of teaching this kind of playing on guitar called forms. In fact over the last 50 years there's been a lot of innovation in teaching jazz to make it more accessible to those who want to learn. I wouldn't be surprised if that jazz guitarist could rock with the best of them or have a great evening of playing blues with Curtis and even play a country gig (you'd be surprised at the jazz backgrounds of many country artists). Check him out on YouTube, or his pages on LiveVideo.com: http://www.livevideo.com/DieselBodine He's got about 28 music videos at LiveVideo, self- categorized into blues, country, jazz, and rock, among others. His specialty seems to be making his own videos of tunes on which he plays multiple instruments and also does the vocals. I sampled a few and didn't find anything I liked much. On YouTube, he has 150 videos. He composes, arranges, etc., etc. And he does video commentaries on various topics, including Starbuck's. Also goes by the name Scott Crothers, it seems. snip There's a Wind Cries Mary tribute to: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2Yn2Fz7ZA I don't know why the put so much reverb on the drums though. There's a lot of good players out on YouTube. I found Out of Nowhere when I went to YouTube to find a video to test if the latest Flash upgrade for Linux was going to work without crashing Firefox eventually (which appears they've fixed that problem). I found another piece by a guitarist I used to work with in Seattle but it was in RealPlayer format not MP3 so will have to try it on another machine as RealNetworks never seemed to get their act together for Linux and we're kind of an unwanted me too in the compression scene. Unfortunately the thugs at the RIAA (and if you know the history of the recording industry the term thugs is not far off the mark) and the stupid copyright laws like the DMCA have killed a lot of free music on the net even if it was supposed to be just a 30 second sample clip. YouTube can get away with it until a publisher notices.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Creationist Morons
--- Thanks, one writer in a previous post says science is blind to the purposful intensification of consciousness (presumably in human observers, for example); but the writer infers wrongly that this is outside of science. Actually, there's a non-purposeful possible explanation, fully within the realm of science: Backward causation. Causation in two directions is an accepted property of quantum realms; but due to the decoherence principle, instances of backward causation seem to fizzle out or become less common in the macroworld. Possibly, not...just overshadowed by causation going in one direction,f rom past to present to future. The future not only casts a shadow into the past, but can cause it, to a certain extent. The bottom line is that if one starts with a presumption of pre- existing creatures (human, godlike, in some dimension), the very existence of such entities will send causes into new, formative baby universes, acting as a type of non-purposeful guide. Then, what people grok/feel regarding evolution (many Hindus for example), will be that evolution was guided. Actually, the veneer of supposed guidance may actually be a form of backward causation. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We must question the story logic of having an all- knowing, all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. -- Gene Roddenberry Science without religion is lame, but Religion without Science is blind. - Albert Einstein TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:52:18 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion I have to agree. To me this seems like the projection of purpose onto a universe that is in no need of one by someone who is in desperate need for one. Religionists need to see a purpose to life, because 1) they tend to have a need that someone or something guiding it or designed it, and 2) because they are deeply imprinted by dogma that's been telling them since they were born that there *is* a purpose to it all, and a designer behind the scenes. So *naturally* they look at the world and tend to see purpose and design behind it. Someone with no dogmatic alliances doesn't necessarily see the world that way. There is a precedence implied in the words that the author used in the excerpt above that's telling IMO, about the world that we have to integrate into our religious visions. The religious visions have to stay intact, while integrating the world into *them*. That's what I think is going on with most attempts to justify religion with pseudo-science. It's making the results fit the dogma, drawing bulleyes around the arrows. It's the same thing we see in the TMO ME studies. The results of a large group of people bouncing on their butts is a foregone conclusion because that is part of the religious vision and thus sacrosanct. The facts must be integrated *into* these religious visions, even if a lot of squishing square pegs into round holes is involved, because the visions represent truth. And they suggest that atheists are deluded? :-) For me, it's like what Curtis said earlier about a type of music he just doesn't get or resonate with. I just don't get the desire to find a purpose behind life. It's the *same* life, purpose or not. I could waste my incarnation pondering what it means and the whys of everything, or I could just enjoy the fact that life is pretty groovy. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
Duveyoung wrote: Hey BillyG, hands off Curtis -- I'm the one who first started calling him immoral so he's my bitch, go get your own. Hey! Keep you cotton-pickin' hands off of BillyG - he's my pal. We were in SRM together in the old days - he's my favorite Governor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Creationist Morons
I think in Paramahansa Yogananda's book, 'An autobiography of an Yogi' this concept of creating universes is discussed. If you go to Brahma Loka, the Causal dimension, you can create your own baby Universe.!! Science is yet to prove it. Time flows in one direction. But now string theories having two time dimensions are emerging.!! Sure to complicate things. matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:04:57 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Creationist Morons --- Thanks, one writer in a previous post says science is blind to the purposful intensification of consciousness (presumably in human observers, for example); but the writer infers wrongly that this is outside of science. Actually, there's a non-purposeful possible explanation, fully within the realm of science: Backward causation. Causation in two directions is an accepted property of quantum realms; but due to the decoherence principle, instances of backward causation seem to fizzle out or become less common in the macroworld. Possibly, not...just overshadowed by causation going in one direction,f rom past to present to future. The future not only casts a shadow into the past, but can cause it, to a certain extent. The bottom line is that if one starts with a presumption of pre- existing creatures (human, godlike, in some dimension), the very existence of such entities will send causes into new, formative baby universes, acting as a type of non-purposeful guide. Then, what people grok/feel regarding evolution (many Hindus for example), will be that evolution was guided. Actually, the veneer of supposed guidance may actually be a form of backward causation. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:55 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Maybe Vaj can answer this question, how many jazz guys use a thumb pick like Lenny? I'm not really sure. While I do pay attention to different players styles, I'm more interested in fingerstyle, since that's the way I play. For me, playing with a pick is like having sex with a condom: there's this thin piece of plastic between you and one of the most intimate experiences in the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own pretty much everything they've ever put out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. What Great Joy to search this youtube thingy ! Jazz ? A small taste of ECM: Piano, Keith Jarret, http://youtube.com/watch?v=AzVNzeXM0EE http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpSVQFXC9hcfeature=relatedBobo Stenson http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNfP3_KoVJUfeature=related saxophone: Jan Garbarek, http://youtube.com/watch?v=hYCpl2lKlj8feature=related (5 minutes into this one the fun begins, from WitchiTaiTo) Guitar:/John Scofield/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=4FSxGDHjfSw - please play this one very loud :-) /Bill Frisell http://youtube.com/watch?v=G8morZn3bSw http://youtube.com/watch?v=ThVKeFtyyrA http://youtube.com/watch?v=8m7iXZCXv14 /Terje Rypdal, http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ML3Pj5AijYfeature=related fun starts after 5 minutes...) http://youtube.com/watch?v=VPhSKFo3nVcfeature=related /Ry Cooder http://youtube.com/watch?v=FfTphi7aoW0feature=related bass: Marc Johnson/Eberhard Weber/Charlie Haden/Gary Peacock, http://youtube.com/watch?v=lSUkl0SJ5Zk http://youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-MxTq_h44feature=related drums; Zakir Hussain/Peter Erskin/Jon Christensen/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Vri14auJrYfeature=related http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y_XFE43cP_Efeature=related /jack de johnette http://youtube.com/watch?v=mTSyPLpYiqsfeature=related - http://youtube.com/watch?v=qnD5E5mrxIsfeature=related You'll find them all, except Ry Cooder, on ECM ofcourse. Get the real stuff, these websounds are to my ears as edg's unchecked rants are to my eyes... Enjoy :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar
On Dec 18, 2007, at 5:25 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own pretty much everything they've ever put out. One of my favorite albums is Ry Cooder's all too brief output with Ali Farka Touré (Talking Timbuktu). If you don't have this one, you're sure to love it. Bruce did a similar thing when he went to visit the Dogon. One listen and you know you're listening to original blues. It's no wonder so many many musicians end up over there checking out the scene.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
That pretty much eliminates all the front-runners, unless you decide to vote for Hillary Clinton. off wrote: No, I was never interested in those guys. I am interested in Ron Paul a traditional republican. Other than that, Obama would be my choice. You don't get to pick the party candidates, so I guess you won't be voting. So, get your passport early so you can leave the country. You promised. Phuket Island: http://www.phuket.com/nightlife/index.htm Patong Beach: http://www.beachpatong.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-A Bal Brahmacharya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I was talking about Curtis via Mr. Fishey, Curtis is cool man!, he can take it! --- Ah yes, sweet Ffld. Life I remember you fondly; like sneezing in a Tokyo subway, and finding a surprising number of toupees. ---
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Replies to Outside Guitar
On Dec 18, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Many jazz musicians have very well rounded music educations. I can assure some of you that guitarist just improvised that whole session and would probably play it differently the next time. I had the same impression. I got that he has riffing off of Django or similar playing style. If you check out his YouTube profile it shows how frickin' well rounded this guy is: Interests and Hobbies: Music composition, Guitar, Violin, Viola, Upright Bass, songwriting, nature, history, discussion, sound recording, video making, gardening, vegetables, fruit, nuts and fungi. I better mention coffee and ice cream, too. Movies and Shows: In The Wild With Harry Butler, Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, The Addams Family, The Simpsons, Danton, Shakespeare, Amadeus, foreign movies, but I don't watch TV at all anymore Music: Not complete... I'll be adding to this list as I find the time: Mediæval Period: mostly the uptempo tunes with all the cool sounding instruments, but I like the Chants, too. Renaissance Period: John Dowland and the Lute and Viol music of various composers, etc. Baroque Period: J.S. Bach, Francesco Geminiani, Pietro Antonio Locatelli, Giuseppe Tartini, Jan Dismas Zelenka, more... Classical Period: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Niccolò Paganini, more... Romantic Period: Alexander Glazunov, Camille Saint-Saëns, more... Modern Period: Bela Bartók, Alban Berg, Leonard Bernstein, Alois Hába, Paul Hindemith, Charles Ives, Fritz Kreisler, György Ligeti, Witold Lutoslawski, Olivier Messiaen, Krzysztof Penderecki, Ottorino Respighi, Arnold Schönberg, Alexander Scriabin, Dmitri Shostakovich, Jean Sibelius, John Philip Sousa, Richard Strauss, Igor Stravinsky, Heitor Villa- Lobos, Anton Webern, more... Jazz: Jimmy Bruno, Kenny Burrell, Nat King Cole Trio, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Bill Evans, Tal Farlow, Benny Goodman, Peggy Lee, Charles Mingus, Thelonius Monk, Wes Montgomery, Oscar Moore, Charlie Parker, Sun Ra, Django Reinhardt, René Thomas, Sarah Vaughan, more... Rock/ R'n'B: The Beatles, The Grass Roots, Led Zeppelin, The Monks, The Turtles, Vanilla Fudge, Yes, Motown, Rockabilly, more... Country: BR5-49, Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson, Hank Snow, Hank Williams, Sr., Faron Young, more... World Music and Miscellaneous: Juan Garcia Esquivel, Native American, Ravi Shankar, Tuva Throat Singing, and others, too... Books: Eyewitness To History, Lexicon Of Musical Invective, encyclopædias, history, non-fiction, Have you ever seen the Woody Allen movie Sweet and Lowdown with Sean Penn? (Spoiler: if you haven't seen this movie, do NOT read any previews or IMDB...it's one you HAVE to watch fresh).
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[FairfieldLife] Do You Recognize This Language?
2007-12-18
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Hello, I hope all is well for everyone within your realm of love. I'm contacting you to find someone who can translate audio of an interview spoken in what may be the southern Indian language of Telugu or some language closely similar to it. I've added the file to our newsgroup's audio folder, please listen to it, perhaps you can confirm what language it is, if not Telugu, and contact me with the name of someone who can translate it. We are searching for someone to translate the full audio interview. Helping you *Say It With Panache!* *Because, how you say it can be, and often is, as important as what you want to convey, and what you have to say is very important to you.* *Copywriting - Editing - Publishing - Publicity - Marketing * **
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Replies to Outside Guitar
Vaj wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Many jazz musicians have very well rounded music educations. I can assure some of you that guitarist just improvised that whole session and would probably play it differently the next time. I had the same impression. I got that he has riffing off of Django or similar playing style. If you check out his YouTube profile it shows how frickin' well rounded this guy is: Interests and Hobbies: Music composition, Guitar, Violin, Viola, Upright Bass, songwriting, nature, history, discussion, sound recording, video making, gardening, vegetables, fruit, nuts and fungi. I better mention coffee and ice cream, too. Movies and Shows: In The Wild With Harry Butler, Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, The Addams Family, The Simpsons, Danton, Shakespeare, Amadeus, foreign movies, but I don't watch TV at all anymore Music: Not complete... I'll be adding to this list as I find the time: Mediæval Period: mostly the uptempo tunes with all the cool sounding instruments, but I like the Chants, too. Renaissance Period: John Dowland and the Lute and Viol music of various composers, etc. Baroque Period: J.S. Bach, Francesco Geminiani, Pietro Antonio Locatelli, Giuseppe Tartini, Jan Dismas Zelenka, more... Classical Period: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Niccolò Paganini, more... Romantic Period: Alexander Glazunov, Camille Saint-Saëns, more... Modern Period: Bela Bartók, Alban Berg, Leonard Bernstein, Alois Hába, Paul Hindemith, Charles Ives, Fritz Kreisler, György Ligeti, Witold Lutoslawski, Olivier Messiaen, Krzysztof Penderecki, Ottorino Respighi, Arnold Schönberg, Alexander Scriabin, Dmitri Shostakovich, Jean Sibelius, John Philip Sousa, Richard Strauss, Igor Stravinsky, Heitor Villa-Lobos, Anton Webern, more... Jazz: Jimmy Bruno, Kenny Burrell, Nat King Cole Trio, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Bill Evans, Tal Farlow, Benny Goodman, Peggy Lee, Charles Mingus, Thelonius Monk, Wes Montgomery, Oscar Moore, Charlie Parker, Sun Ra, Django Reinhardt, René Thomas, Sarah Vaughan, more... Rock/R'n'B: The Beatles, The Grass Roots, Led Zeppelin, The Monks, The Turtles, Vanilla Fudge, Yes, Motown, Rockabilly, more... Country: BR5-49, Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson, Hank Snow, Hank Williams, Sr., Faron Young, more... World Music and Miscellaneous: Juan Garcia Esquivel, Native American, Ravi Shankar, Tuva Throat Singing, and others, too... Books: Eyewitness To History, Lexicon Of Musical Invective, encyclopædias, history, non-fiction, Like many musicians sort of a renaissance man. Have you ever seen the Woody Allen movie Sweet and Lowdown with Sean Penn? (Spoiler: if you haven't seen this movie, do NOT read any previews or IMDB...it's one you HAVE to watch fresh). Yes I watched it several years ago. Good film. Last night I watched Hustle Flow with the commentary. I like Craig Brewer's films as they center around musicians and music.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That pretty much eliminates all the front-runners, unless you decide to vote for Hillary Clinton. off wrote: No, I was never interested in those guys. I am interested in Ron Paul a traditional republican. Other than that, Obama would be my choice. You don't get to pick the party candidates, so I guess you won't be voting. I'm British, I'm not allowed to vote, unless I pay my 300 bucks and get my US citizenship which I am entitled to if I can be bothered filling in the forms. So, get your passport early so you can leave the country. You promised. Like any of those goons, Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Guliani, are ever going to be president ! But yes, I promise I will leave this country if any of them become president. No question about it. My brother has a place in Thailand, so you are on the right track. OffWorld Phuket Island: http://www.phuket.com/nightlife/index.htm Patong Beach: http://www.beachpatong.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
Offworld: Like any of those goons, Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Guliani, are ever going to be president! But yes, I promise I will leave this country if any of them become president. No question about it. Lurk: Definitely, put me on the other side of this bet. Off, your bluster is rarely matched by your follow through. And when pressed, well it's the great disappearing act.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When fascism comes...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Offworld: Like any of those goons, Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Guliani, are ever going to be president! But yes, I promise I will leave this country if any of them become president. No question about it. Lurk: Definitely, put me on the other side of this bet. Off, your bluster is rarely matched by your follow through. And when pressed, well it's the great disappearing act. Dude, I've got 15 passports... you? And I'm not staying in mainland America if Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Guliani become president. It is a safe bet though. They have no chance. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Catching the Big Fish - David Lynch
Been really enjoying reading Catching the Big Fish. In short chapters David Lynch talks about his TM experience and how it affects his creative spirit. Its really inspiring. It answers a question I always had. There are many spirichul filmmakers out there that make heavy handed films like What the Bleep..?, and The Peaceful Warrior. I wondered why TMers like David Lynch, Howard Stern and Andy Kauffman, made art that was not all rainbows and unicorns. Lynch explains it pretty well in his book. He says, We reflect the world we live in. and later states A filmmaker does not have to be suffering to show suffering. He feels his meditation practice allows him clarity to see the human condition. Of course his creativity is going to reflect the violence, lack of communication and separation that is so apparent in our society. He talks about bliss as a flak jacket, Its a protection thing. If you have enough bliss, it's invincibility. And when those negative things start lifting, you can catch more idea and see them with greater understanding. I really enjoyed reading the book. It seems Mr. Lynch has thought about many of the same things I have thought about concerning the relationship between TM and creativity. [Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness, and Creativity] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1585426121/sr=1-4/qid=119804045\ 2/ref=dp_image_0/002-9627289-8882417?ie=UTF8n=283155s=booksqid=119804\ 0452sr=1-4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Electric piano?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cardemaister wrote: What kind (brand) of electric piano would you buy if your main purpose was just to learn to play some simple boogie woogie -type riffs? Back in the 80's I had a Fender Rhodes in my apartment. Later I got a Yamaha electric piano. Yamaha's feel most like real pianos. I see them every so often at Costco, but you should go to a music store and try out a few to get a sense of what you want. They go from the very spartan keyboard with a handful of sounds to full blown sequencer/synth deals. If your playing Boogie Woogie you may want to look for a piano that can go out of tune slightly. Makes it sound like the piano has been sitting too close to the Mississippi for that authentic roadhouse sound. I would stay away from flimsy organ action plastic keyboards. They get old quickly. A month ago I trashed the Yamaha for a Kawai baby grand. I am playing more. The sound of an acoustic is soo big, I find myself getting lost in it. This has been at the expense of my guitar playing. Today I was playing guitar and the lack of practice was showing big time. s.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion
I think I'm a believer in the Einsteinian sense, very impersonal, not devotional at all. But I disagree with Haught that you can't surrender to it unless it's personal. I think that's because he makes a distinction between It and thou, and I don't (and I bet Einstein didn't either). That's the difference between Western religion and Advaita, I guess. I just read Walter Isaacson's Einstein biography. His philosophical stance is very interesting. On one hand he had this Spinoza influenced view of god as impersonal laws of the universe. A view that is highly determinist. On the other hand Einstein had a deep personal belief in individuality and the potential of individuals to make a difference. Reading it, one can see how this framework parallels Buddhism. Which incidentally Camus was getting interested in just before he died. There is a thin line between the atheism of the existentialist and the nontheism of the Buddhist monk. Reading through that article though it seems the author is stuck in that old Cartesian dualism. Trying to reconcile the internal with the external. Most of the writing is an attempt to rationalize a very limited linear view of the universe as if it was a motionless thing made up of separate objects. This thing is either ruled by a supreme king who puts it in motion. Or is realized by the scientist as a cold place. Its fortunate for us TMers that we are not so split. Understanding the external to be a mere reflection of the internal. It makes all this talk about creation, meaning and hope a bunch of dramatic hogwash. These guys are hypnotized by their own self delusion. The unified Kosmos carries no such contradictions, conceits and contradictions. s.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion
---thanks, I agree. I have an Einstein quote from a Buddhist magazine, Tricycle, but can't find the original source: Einstein says Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and spiritual; and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity. Steven Wolfram said something similar. He's the inventor of Mathematica. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'm a believer in the Einsteinian sense, very impersonal, not devotional at all. But I disagree with Haught that you can't surrender to it unless it's personal. I think that's because he makes a distinction between It and thou, and I don't (and I bet Einstein didn't either). That's the difference between Western religion and Advaita, I guess. I just read Walter Isaacson's Einstein biography. His philosophical stance is very interesting. On one hand he had this Spinoza influenced view of god as impersonal laws of the universe. A view that is highly determinist. On the other hand Einstein had a deep personal belief in individuality and the potential of individuals to make a difference. Reading it, one can see how this framework parallels Buddhism. Which incidentally Camus was getting interested in just before he died. There is a thin line between the atheism of the existentialist and the nontheism of the Buddhist monk. Reading through that article though it seems the author is stuck in that old Cartesian dualism. Trying to reconcile the internal with the external. Most of the writing is an attempt to rationalize a very limited linear view of the universe as if it was a motionless thing made up of separate objects. This thing is either ruled by a supreme king who puts it in motion. Or is realized by the scientist as a cold place. Its fortunate for us TMers that we are not so split. Understanding the external to be a mere reflection of the internal. It makes all this talk about creation, meaning and hope a bunch of dramatic hogwash. These guys are hypnotized by their own self delusion. The unified Kosmos carries no such contradictions, conceits and contradictions. s.
