[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards Let that preening ambulance-chaser give back the $100 million he sucked out of innocent people and then maybe I'll listen to him. I don't know many details of Edwards' legal career, and I doubt you do either, but the innocent people he sucked the money out of were not-so-innocent corporations, who made products that they knew would injure or kill people, but continued to sell them and suppress information about their dangers. Most of the people for whom he sucked the money actually were innocent, such as the girl who got trapped at the bottom of a swimming pool by the strong suction of a drainage grate, whose manufacturer knew it was defective yet didn't bother to recall it or notify those who owned one. You are alleging that most or all of Edwards' cases were frivolous. Show us the evidence. Here's something to wrap you heart around, Rick. Read this and then tell me you'd vote for the guy...oh, and by the way, the following is from a DEMOCRATIC operative named Bob Shrum (his book No Excuses): (Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again. Notice Magoo completely ignores Rick's actual question and asserts an unattributed third hand story that may or may not be accurate - as if that's a sufficient response.
[FairfieldLife] SS of the Day: V 116 117
SS V 116: samaadhisuSuptimokSeSu brahmaruupataa (samaadhi-suSupti-mokSe_su brahma-ruupataa) In (the suffix -su: locative *plural*) samaadhi, deep sleep [and] mokSa [there is?] brahma-ruupataa rUpatA f. (ifc.) the state of being formed or composed of Ballantyne: Soul ever free. Aph. 116.* In Concentration, profound sleep, and emancipation, it [Soul,] consists of Brahma.2 a. Then what is the difference of emancipation from profound sleep and concentration? To this he replies: V 117: dvayoH sabiijamanyatra tadghatiH (dvayoH sa_biijam anyatra tat+ghatiH) Ballantyne: Perfect and imperfect emancipation. Aph. 117.* In the case of the two, it is with a seed; in the case of the other, this is wanting. a. 'In the case of the two,' viz., concentration and profound sleep, the identity with Brahma5 is 'with a seed,' i.e., associated with some cause of Bondage, [or reappearance in the mundane state]; 'in the case of the other,' i.e., p. 407 in emancipation, this cause is absent: this is the distinction. Such is the meaning.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SS of the Day: V 116 117
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SS V 116: samaadhisuSuptimokSeSu brahmaruupataa (samaadhi-suSupti-mokSe_su brahma-ruupataa) In (the suffix -su: locative *plural*) samaadhi, deep sleep [and] mokSa [there is?] brahma-ruupataa rUpatA f. (ifc.) the state of being formed or composed of Ballantyne: Soul ever free. Aph. 116.* In Concentration, profound sleep, and emancipation, it [Soul,] consists of Brahma.2 a. Then what is the difference of emancipation from profound sleep and concentration? To this he replies: V 117: dvayoH sabiijamanyatra tadghatiH (dvayoH sa_biijam anyatra tat+ghatiH) Oops! That should be 'taddhatiH', which is, oddly enough, in this case, sandhi for 'tat + hatiH' hati f. striking , a stroke or blow with (comp.) Gi1t. Sarasv. ; killing , destroying , destruction , removal MBh. Ka1v. c. ; ***disappearance , loss , absence Kap. ; (in arithm.) multiplication A1ryabh. Sch. Ballantyne: Perfect and imperfect emancipation. Aph. 117.* In the case of the two, it is with a seed; in the case of the other, this is wanting. a. 'In the case of the two,' viz., concentration and profound sleep, the identity with Brahma5 is 'with a seed,' i.e., associated with some cause of Bondage, [or reappearance in the mundane state]; 'in the case of the other,' i.e., p. 407 in emancipation, this cause is absent: this is the distinction. Such is the meaning.
[FairfieldLife] It's all Bush's fault!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
On Jan 1, 2008, at 5:37 PM, bob_brigante wrote: This is not really the dahl recipe used by the Hare Krishna people (it is noted that the above recipe is derived from HK's), who go strictly by Ayurveda standards (one of my former students was a member of the HK temple in Los Angeles and I used to eat their excellent food all the time), and would never include tamasic onions (scallions and salsa are mentioned above) in a recipe. Bob both the use of onions and garlic are part of the traditional pharmacopeia of Ayurveda, as well the the prescription of meats. There are certain sadhanas (spiritual practices) like the worship of peaceful wisdom deities, etc. that may prohibit onions, garlic, etc. and if you practice such a sadhana, one can do what they feel is necessary, but it's by no means required (except maybe by fundies).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sociopath?
This addresses an issue we are all certainly concerned about, but it takes a very odd turn towards the end with references to R. Kelly, Elizabeth Taylor, pedophilia, child slavery (WTF?). This behavior is not the behavior of a sociopath or in more contemporary terms, antisocial personality disorder. It is more the behavior of a narcissist. Someone with very little empathic capacity and a tremendous investment in themselves. Taken on the surface MMY's behavior certainly is narcissistic, impulsive, and grandiose. But.there's always that but there. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone sent me this and asked me to post it: Consider a man who would live as the guest in someone's house and run up a fantastic telephone bill without asking. Would this be the work of an innocent monk or something else. Then I asked what you would call a man who chose an exalted title for himself and had it put on his stationary. Then I asked him if he would consider it to be the flux of Nature that he would spend day and night creating plans for forest academies which plans were never implemented. And create a Vedic Studies 1 week in residence couse we all thought was not the work of a scholar, but of a man of very disordered thinking. And what type of man would have buildings burn down without insurance and what type of man would keep picking people who lost or walked away from him and started his own thing. Hail President Chinsano. Bless America. Damn America. Hello Hans Selye, Good bye, Hans Selye. What type of man would create his own world, his own bank, is own kings, princes, prime ministers, minister and governors? What kind of man would pick up buildings and people and projects and work furiously on them then drop them like a child drawn to a new toy and be totally involved in that while the other thing fell by the wayside and perhaps was now prey for bandits, sqauters. And what kind of man would support a bunch of people in a foreign country then drop them all like a rock? And what would you say about a man who jumps around and tells one group one thing and another group something else. And what kind of man of wealth and power would have clandestine sex with woman and get caught, just like that black singer in California keeps getting caught with kids even though with his wealth and money, he could easily arrange an interlude with a youngster in Charleston, WV and no one be the wiser. I was in Parkersburg, WV and I read the ads and was offered anything I wanted both in WV and TN. I could buy a child to own, to adopt, to abuse. I could deflower a boy of any age I chose or a girl of any age I chose, and no one would be the wiser and it would cost me perhaps USD 1,000. So what kind of man would not go the totally discrete route (as this very rich man who died while ?husband? of Elizabeth Taylor did with all the bikers he hung around with)? And what kind of man would devotes say was acting according to the laws of the moment but seems to act totally erratically? What kind of man would have diabetes and go on a three day jag eating nothing but ice cream? The answer was someone who was a sociopath and someone who tended toward the manic phase of bipolar disorder. Please reconsider the theory that Maharishi's relatives are holding him hostage because they are blackmaling him. Consider the possiblity that they are holding him hostage because he is not mentally competent and there's a family trait of sociopath there. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 1/1/2008 12:09 PM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM report 2006-7
Well as one who has experienced the changes in the menu at MIU I question the logic in such budget cuts. If you do not have to pay the regualr salaries then I think they should be grateful for only having a 25% number. If they had to pay people enough to have outside housing and cook their own food that number would prove much higher. - Original Message From: bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 12:55:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM report 2006-7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Why is it troubling? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: http://www.mum.edu/pdf/university_report/2006-2007.pdf Food service is the biggest budget item. Troubling. Anyone has a more detailed breakdown? Aw shucks, this his kind of report isn't very helpful anyway so I shouldn't draw conclusions. Anyone see the form 990 for 2006? Anyone here subscribe to analysis, like from Guidestar, of MUM finances? *** Actually, spending 20% on food service is an improvement from several past eras for the school (Santa Barbara was probably the worst in terms of spending on food). When I was working in the kitchen in 1985, I was asked to cost out every meal because MIU was spending 25% of its budget on food. When they found out it cost about $900 to serve lasagna, and only $180 to serve Indian food, guess what got cut back in a hurry? It's a bit misleading to see the food service expense as excessive, since MUM operates on volunteer/low pay faculty and staff. So it makes fixed-cost items like food (or insurance or whatever) look like they are taking a disproportionate share of the budget, compared to other schools that spend a lot more on faculty/staff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:34 AM, do.rflex wrote: Notice Magoo completely ignores Rick's actual question and asserts an unattributed third hand story that may or may not be accurate - as if that's a sufficient response. I was wondering the same thing. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Bush's fault!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:41 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?' Edwards will probably win Iowa, and deserves strong consideration nationally, but attacks from both parties on Edwards following an Iowa win will be incredible. Thanks for keeping his candidancy alive in Iowa. Were he for single-payer health insurance, rather than the scam 'Universal coverage' program that virtually guarantees insurance companies more profits, I'd consider him a pure populist. I asked Dan Sheehan about this tonight and he said that Edwards does favor a single-payer system, but feels it couldn't be accomplished abruptly. His plan includes options, one of which is akin to a single payer system. He feels that most people would choose that option, paving the way to a full-fledged single-payer system. Rick, you did well with the single-payer question and the other 4 questions you asked. After hearing Sheehan's statement of support for Edwards, and the rationale for Edwards' viability nationally, it seems that Edwards has the highest probablility of any of the 'outsider' candidates to make a real difference. I particularly liked how Sheehan differentiated Edwards from the other Dems.; from day one, the middle class has Edwards as their advocate. He starts his agenda with the middle class in mind. The other Dems, deeply indebted to the establishment, by default start their agenda in service to the establishment, diluting middle class influence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let that preening ambulance-chaser give back the $100 million he sucked out of innocent people and then maybe I'll listen to him. You mean, such innocent people as the swimming pool drain manufacturer that knew the covers on its drains were defective but didn't bother to correct the problem until after the 5-year-old girl Edwards represented in court had had her intestines sucked out of her body by the suction from an uncapped drain? She'll need constant medical care for the rest of her life. She can't eat food and has to get her nutrition from 12 to 14 hours of IV every day. Are those the kind of innocent people you're talking about, Shemp, who had to be sued to do the right thing after their negligence ruined this little girl's life? For detailed information on the case: http://www.monkeytime.org/lakey.html
[FairfieldLife] All hail the New York Times on Global Warming
NY TIMES January 1, 2008 Findings In 2008, a 100 Percent Chance of Alarm By JOHN TIERNEY I'd like to wish you a happy New Year, but I'm afraid I have a different sort of prediction. You're in for very bad weather. In 2008, your television will bring you image after frightening image of natural havoc linked to global warming. You will be told that such bizarre weather must be a sign of dangerous climate change and that these images are a mere preview of what's in store unless we act quickly to cool the planet. Unfortunately, I can't be more specific. I don't know if disaster will come by flood or drought, hurricane or blizzard, fire or ice. Nor do I have any idea how much the planet will warm this year or what that means for your local forecast. Long-term climate models cannot explain short-term weather. But there's bound to be some weird weather somewhere, and we will react like the sailors in the Book of Jonah. When a storm hit their ship, they didn't ascribe it to a seasonal weather pattern. They quickly identified the cause (Jonah's sinfulness) and agreed to an appropriate policy response (throw Jonah overboard). Today's interpreters of the weather are what social scientists call availability entrepreneurs: the activists, journalists and publicity- savvy scientists who selectively monitor the globe looking for newsworthy evidence of a new form of sinfulness, burning fossil fuels. A year ago, British meteorologists made headlines predicting that the buildup of greenhouse gases would help make 2007 the hottest year on record. At year's end, even though the British scientists reported the global temperature average was not a new record it was actually lower than any year since 2001 the BBC confidently proclaimed, 2007 Data Confirms Warming Trend. When the Arctic sea ice last year hit the lowest level ever recorded by satellites, it was big news and heralded as a sign that the whole planet was warming. When the Antarctic sea ice last year reached the highest level ever recorded by satellites, it was pretty much ignored. A large part of Antarctica has been cooling recently, but most coverage of that continent has focused on one small part that has warmed. When Hurricane Katrina flooded New Orleans in 2005, it was supposed to be a harbinger of the stormier world predicted by some climate modelers. When the next two hurricane seasons were fairly calm by some measures, last season in the Northern Hemisphere was the calmest in three decades the availability entrepreneurs changed the subject. Droughts in California and Australia became the new harbingers of climate change (never mind that a warmer planet is projected to have more, not less, precipitation over all). The most charitable excuse for this bias in weather divination is that the entrepreneurs are trying to offset another bias. The planet has indeed gotten warmer, and it is projected to keep warming because of greenhouse emissions, but this process is too slow to make much impact on the public. When judging risks, we often go wrong by using what's called the availability heuristic: we gauge a danger according to how many examples of it are readily available in our minds. Thus we overestimate the odds of dying in a terrorist attack or a plane crash because we've seen such dramatic deaths so often on television; we underestimate the risks of dying from a stroke because we don't have so many vivid images readily available. Slow warming doesn't make for memorable images on television or in people's minds, so activists, journalists and scientists have looked to hurricanes, wild fires and starving polar bears instead. They have used these images to start an availability cascade, a term coined by Timur Kuran, a professor of economics and law at the University of Southern California, and Cass R. Sunstein, a law professor at the University of Chicago. The availability cascade is a self-perpetuating process: the more attention a danger gets, the more worried people become, leading to more news coverage and more fear. Once the images of Sept. 11 made terrorism seem a major threat, the press and the police lavished attention on potential new attacks and supposed plots. After Three Mile Island and The China Syndrome, minor malfunctions at nuclear power plants suddenly became newsworthy. Many people concerned about climate change, Dr. Sunstein says, want to create an availability cascade by fixing an incident in people's minds. Hurricane Katrina is just an early example; there will be others. I don't doubt that climate change is real and that it presents a serious threat, but there's a danger that any `consensus' on particular events or specific findings is, in part, a cascade. Once a cascade is under way, it becomes tough to sort out risks because experts become reluctant to dispute the popular wisdom, and are ignored if they do. Now that the melting Arctic has become the
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards Let that preening ambulance-chaser give back the $100 million he sucked out of innocent people and then maybe I'll listen to him. I don't know many details of Edwards' legal career, and I doubt you do either, but the innocent people he sucked the money out of were not-so-innocent corporations, who made products that they knew would injure or kill people, but continued to sell them and suppress information about their dangers. Most of the people for whom he sucked the money actually were innocent, such as the girl who got trapped at the bottom of a swimming pool by the strong suction of a drainage grate, whose manufacturer knew it was defective yet didn't bother to recall it or notify those who owned one. You are alleging that most or all of Edwards' cases were frivolous. Show us the evidence. Here's something to wrap you heart around, Rick. Read this and then tell me you'd vote for the guy...oh, and by the way, the following is from a DEMOCRATIC operative named Bob Shrum (his book No Excuses): (Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again. Notice Magoo completely ignores Rick's actual question and asserts an unattributed third hand story that may or may not be accurate - as if that's a sufficient response. ...you mean like Rick Archer does with his Maharishi having sex with female devotee stories? Well, Mr. Bongo Brazil, asserting unattributed third hand stories is the basis for the very creation of FairFieldLife and is a daily occurrance here...
[FairfieldLife] The Breck Girl channels dead babies
John Edwards: The candidate some dead babies speak through By Ann Coulter Sunday, July 11, 2004 I guess with John Kerry's choice of John Edwards as his running mate, he really does want to stand up for all Americans, from those worth only $60 million to those worth in excess of $800 million. In one of the many stratagems Democrats have developed to avoid telling people what they believe, all Edwards wants to talk about is his cracker-barrel humble origins story. We're supposed to swoon over his life story, as the flacks say, which apparently consists of the amazing fact that ... his father was a millworker! That's right up there with Clinton's stepdad was a drunk and Ted Kennedy's dad was a womanizing bootlegger on my inspirational life- stories meter. In fact, I'm immediately renouncing my university degrees and going to work for the post office just to give my future children a shot at having a life story, should they decide to run for president someday. Despite the overwrought claims of Edwards' dazzling legal skills, winning jury verdicts in personal injury cases has nothing to do with legal talent and everything to do with getting the right cases -- unless talent is taken to mean having absolutely no shame. Edwards specialized in babies with cerebral palsy whom he claimed would have been spared the affliction if only the doctors had immediately performed Caesarean sections. story continues below As a result of such lawsuits, there are now more than four times as many Caesarean sections as there were in 1970. But curiously, there has been no change in the rate of babies born with cerebral palsy. As The New York Times reported: Studies indicate that in most cases, the disorder is caused by fetal brain injury long before labor begins. All those Caesareans have, however, increased the mother's risk of death, hemorrhage, infection, pulmonary embolism and Mendelson's syndrome. In addition, the little guys Edwards claims to represent are having a lot more trouble finding doctors to deliver their babies these days as obstetricians leave the practice rather than pay malpractice insurance in excess of $100,000 a year. In one of Edwards' silver-tongued arguments to the jury on behalf of a girl born with cerebral palsy, he claimed he was channeling the unborn baby girl, Jennifer Campbell, who was speaking to the jurors through him: She said at 3, 'I'm fine.' She said at 4, 'I'm having a little trouble, but I'm doing OK.' Five, she said, 'I'm having problems.' At 5:30, she said, 'I need out.' She's saying, My lawyer needs a new Jaguar ... She speaks to you through me and I have to tell you right now -- I didn't plan to talk about this -- right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you. Well, tell her to pipe down, would you? I'm trying to hear the evidence in a malpractice lawsuit. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde on the death of Little Nell, one must have a heart of stone to read this without laughing. Is Edwards able to channel any children right before an abortionist's fork is plunged into their tiny skulls? Why can't he hear those babies saying, Let me live! While making himself fabulously rich by taking a one- third cut of his multimillion-dollar verdicts coaxed out of juries with junk science and maudlin performances, Edwards has the audacity to claim, I was more than just their lawyer; I cared about them. Their cause was my cause. If he cared so deeply, how about keeping just 10 percent of the multimillion-dollar jury awards, rather than a third? In fact, as long as these Democrats are so eager to raise the taxes of the rich, how about a 90 percent tax on contingency fees? For someone who didn't care about the money, it's interesting that Edwards avoided cases in which the baby died during delivery. Evidently, jury awards average only about $500,000 when the babies die, and there is no disabled child to parade before the jury. Edwards was one of the leading opponents of a bill in the North Carolina Legislature that would have established a fund for all babies born with cerebral palsy. So instead of all disabled babies in North Carolina being compensated equitably, only a few will win the jury lottery -- one-third of which will go to trial lawyers like Edwards, who insists he doesn't care about the money. Despite the now-disproved junk science theory about C-sections preventing cerebral palsy that Edwards peddled in the channeling case, the jury awarded Edwards' client a record-breaking $6.5 million. This is the essence of the modern Democratic Party, polished to perfection by Bill Clinton: They are willing to insult the intelligence of 49 percent of the people if they think they can fool 51 percent of the people. Ann Coulter, a lawyer and political analyst, is a columnist for Human Events.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Breck Girl channels dead babies
On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:03 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: John Edwards: The candidate some dead babies speak through By Ann Coulter Really pathetic, Shemp. You're sinking about as low as anyone can go. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards Notice Magoo completely ignores Rick's actual question and asserts an unattributed third hand story that may or may not be accurate - as if that's a sufficient response. ...you mean like Rick Archer does with his Maharishi having sex with female devotee stories? Well, Mr. Bongo Brazil, asserting unattributed third hand stories is the basis for the very creation of FairFieldLife and is a daily occurrance here... Those were 2nd hand stories, i.e., I didn’t have sex with him but spoke with women who did. For you they’re 3rd hand, because you heard them from me. But let’s not revive that topic. I think if you and I engaged in a credibility contest on FFL I’d win handily. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 1/1/2008 12:09 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM report 2006-7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well as one who has experienced the changes in the menu at MIU I question the logic in such budget cuts. If you do not have to pay the regualr salaries then I think they should be grateful for only having a 25% number. If they had to pay people enough to have outside housing and cook their own food that number would prove much higher. Decades ago, a newly arrived volunteer for MUM staff would be rushed into a food service position upon arrival, for some indefinite period. Many would smile brightly when recognized by old friends in the dining hall. Foodservice was considered an almost necessary step to a more desirable volunteer job. Regular salaries, to non-volunteer MUM foodservice workers (native Iowans, who work MUM foodservice jobs), are at least part of the recent history of the MUM budget, if not the current norm. The pool of volunteers to MUM has probably dried up over the decades of the TMO's decline, such that foodservice jobs are filled from outside, and add to the foodservice's relatively high percentage of MUM's budget. - Original Message From: bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 12:55:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM report 2006-7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Why is it troubling? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: http://www.mum.edu/pdf/university_report/2006-2007.pdf Food service is the biggest budget item. Troubling. Anyone has a more detailed breakdown? Aw shucks, this his kind of report isn't very helpful anyway so I shouldn't draw conclusions. Anyone see the form 990 for 2006? Anyone here subscribe to analysis, like from Guidestar, of MUM finances? *** Actually, spending 20% on food service is an improvement from several past eras for the school (Santa Barbara was probably the worst in terms of spending on food). When I was working in the kitchen in 1985, I was asked to cost out every meal because MIU was spending 25% of its budget on food. When they found out it cost about $900 to serve lasagna, and only $180 to serve Indian food, guess what got cut back in a hurry? It's a bit misleading to see the food service expense as excessive, since MUM operates on volunteer/low pay faculty and staff. So it makes fixed-cost items like food (or insurance or whatever) look like they are taking a disproportionate share of the budget, compared to other schools that spend a lot more on faculty/staff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM report 2006-7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: Well as one who has experienced the changes in the menu at MIU I question the logic in such budget cuts. If you do not have to pay the regualr salaries then I think they should be grateful for only having a 25% number. If they had to pay people enough to have outside housing and cook their own food that number would prove much higher. Decades ago, a newly arrived volunteer for MUM staff would be rushed into a food service position upon arrival, for some indefinite period. Many would smile brightly when recognized by old friends in the dining hall. Foodservice was considered an almost necessary step to a more desirable volunteer job. Regular salaries, to non-volunteer MUM foodservice workers (native Iowans, who work MUM foodservice jobs), are at least part of the recent history of the MUM budget, if not the current norm. The pool of volunteers to MUM has probably dried up over the decades of the TMO's decline, such that foodservice jobs are filled from outside, and add to the foodservice's relatively high percentage of MUM's budget. My understanding from someone very much on the inside of the kitchen situation at MUM is that the kitchen is staffed almost completely by slightly above minimum wage laborers from town (some of whom are known to be drug users). Not enough volunteer staff anymore. Better to be a purusha raja or MD rajani both of whom have their own private cooks working in special kitchens serving excellent meals.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Breck Girl channels dead babies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Edwards: The candidate some dead babies speak through By Ann Coulter Sunday, July 11, 2004 snip Despite the now-disproved junk science theory about C-sections preventing cerebral palsy that Edwards peddled in the channeling case, the jury awarded Edwards' client a record-breaking $6.5 million. This is the essence of the modern Democratic Party, polished to perfection by Bill Clinton: They are willing to insult the intelligence of 49 percent of the people if they think they can fool 51 percent of the people. Typical Coulter. The theory hasn't been disproved; what's been disproved is the frequency of such situations. In rare cases, cerebral palsy can indeed be prevented by proper treatment during delivery. According to Edwards, the cases he took were these exceptions. He says he studied each one extensively before agreeing to take it. There are at least two sides to every story, especially where right-wing fanatics like Coulter are concerned. Given her long, well-documented record of lack of concern for truth and accuracy, I'd give Edwards's version of this story at least as much credibility as hers.
[FairfieldLife] Spiritually hot , in Fairfield, 2008
Touring of the saints, Mother Meera in FF http://www.mothermeera-fairfield.com/default.jsp
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards Notice Magoo completely ignores Rick's actual question and asserts an unattributed third hand story that may or may not be accurate - as if that's a sufficient response. ...you mean like Rick Archer does with his Maharishi having sex with female devotee stories? Well, Mr. Bongo Brazil, asserting unattributed third hand stories is the basis for the very creation of FairFieldLife and is a daily occurrance here... Those were 2nd hand stories, i.e., I didn't have sex with him but spoke with women who did. For you they're 3rd hand, because you heard them from me. But let's not revive that topic. I think if you and I engaged in a credibility contest on FFL I'd win handily. Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. Why, only yesterday, you eagerly forwarded as a post to this forum the most vile, unsubstantiated email from one of your fellow ex-TM malcontents suggesting all sorts of conspiracy, sex, and money boondoggles attributed to the person you spent over 20 years in a master-disciple relationship with (which was a complete bastardization of the TM Program in the first place on your part...but that's another story). And, hey, didn't you relate to us recently that on your latest visit to Amma you still haven't gotten over that little piece of sex- psychosis you're still obsessing on by going to the microphone -- yet again! -- and asked her about saints that don't live up to their hype? This is your idea of credibility??? God, man, get over it! We know that you couldn't handle Maharishi's mantra and that, reluctantly, Amma assigned a less powerful one to you (after you badgered her to) that pacified your inability to deal with the purification process of daily meditation with your real mantra (hey, all you had to do was cut down to 10 minutes a day, not change mantras, you big dummy). Get on with your life and stop obsessing over Maharishi and his sex life. Your credibility on this issue is NOT of the highest spiritual standards, Rick. You are in danger of leaving a legacy not of the many hundreds (or thousands) of people you initiated into TM but, rather, the unsubstantiated 2nd or 3rd hand accusations by you of someone else's sex life. A nice cesspool of rumors and innuendo to float around the Akashik Records...all courtesy of Rick Archer, the National Enquirer of Spirituality personified. Boy, that's quite a legacy to be proud of, Rick. Take my word for it: Maharishi's diddling or not diddling young girls will have NOTHING to do with whether or not you get enlightened. Your continual obsession with it, however, will. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 1/1/2008 12:09 PM
[FairfieldLife] Michael Moore supports Edwards -- mostly
Here's what Michael Moore has written -- he likes Edwards. Edg MICHAEL MOORE ON THE FENCE: 'I am not endorsing anyone at this point' Wed Jan 02 2008 07:32:44 ET Friends, A new year has begun. And before we've had a chance to break our New Year's resolutions, we find ourselves with a little more than 24 hours before the good people of Iowa tell us whom they would like to replace the man who now occupies three countries and a white house. Twice before, we have begun the process to stop this man, and twice we have failed. Eight years of our lives as Americans will have been lost, the world left in upheaval against us... and yet now, today, we hope against hope that our moment has finally arrived, that the amazingly powerful force of the Republican Party will somehow be halted. But we know that the Democrats are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and if there's a way to blow this election, they will find it and do it with gusto. Do you feel the same as me? That the Democratic front-runners are a less-than-stellar group of candidates, and that none of them are the slam dunk we wish they were? Of course, there are wonderful things about each of them. Any one of them would be infinitely better than what we have now. Personally, Congressman Kucinich, more than any other candidate, shares the same positions that I have on the issues (although the UFO that picked ME up would only take me as far as Kalamazoo). But let's not waste time talking about Dennis. Even he is resigned to losing, with statements like the one he made yesterday to his supporters in Iowa to throw their support to Senator Obama as their second choice. So, it's Hillary, Obama, Edwards -- now what do we do? Two months ago, Rolling Stone magazine asked me to do a cover story where I would ask the hard questions that no one was asking in one-on-one interviews with Senators Clinton, Obama and Edwards. The Top Democrats Face Off with Michael Moore. The deal was that all three candidates had to agree to let me interview them or there was no story. Obama and Edwards agreed. Mrs. Clinton said no, and the cover story was thus killed. Why would the love of my life, Hillary Clinton, not sit down to talk with me? What was she afraid of? Those of you who are longtime readers of mine may remember that 11 years ago I wrote a chapter (in my first book) entitled, My Forbidden Love for Hillary. I was fed up with the treatment she was getting, most of it boringly sexist, and I thought somebody should stand up for her. I later met her and she thanked me for referring to her as one hot s***kicking feminist babe. I supported and contributed to her run for the U.S. Senate. I think she is a decent and smart person who loves this country, cares deeply about kids, and has put up with more crap than anyone I know of (other than me) from the Crazy Right. Her inauguration would be a thrilling sight, ending 218 years of white male rule in a country where 51% of its citizens are female and 64% are either female or people of color. And yet, I am sad to say, nothing has disappointed me more than the disastrous, premeditated vote by Senator Hillary Clinton to send us to war in Iraq. I'm not only talking about her first vote that gave Mr. Bush his authorization to invade -- I'm talking about every single OTHER vote she then cast for the next four years, backing and funding Bush's illegal war, and doing so with verve. She never met a request from the White House for war authorization that she didn't like. Unlike the Kerrys and the Bidens who initially voted for authorization but later came to realize the folly of their decision, Mrs. Clinton continued to cast numerous votes for the war until last March -- four long years of pro-war votes, even after 70% of the American public had turned against the war. She has steadfastly refused to say that she was wrong about any of this, and she will not apologize for her culpability in America's worst-ever foreign policy disaster. All she can bring herself to say is that she was misled by faulty intelligence. Let's assume that's true. Do you want a President who is so easily misled? I wasn't misled, and millions of others who took to the streets in February of 2003 weren't misled either. It was simply amazing that we knew the war was wrong when none of us had been briefed by the CIA, none of us were national security experts, and none of us had gone on a weapons inspection tour of Iraq. And yet... we knew we were being lied to! Let me ask those of you reading this letter: Were YOU misled -- or did you figure it out sometime between October of 2002 and March of 2007 that George W. Bush was up to something rotten? Twenty-three other senators were smart enough to figure it out and vote against the war from the get-go. Why wasn't Sen. Clinton? I have a theory: Hillary knows the sexist country we still live in and that one of the reasons the public, in the past, would never consider a woman as president is because
[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore supports Edwards -- mostly
Michael Moore supports John Edwards. Duveyoung tells us about it. I rest my case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what Michael Moore has written -- he likes Edwards. Edg MICHAEL MOORE ON THE FENCE: 'I am not endorsing anyone at this point' Wed Jan 02 2008 07:32:44 ET Friends, A new year has begun. And before we've had a chance to break our New Year's resolutions, we find ourselves with a little more than 24 hours before the good people of Iowa tell us whom they would like to replace the man who now occupies three countries and a white house. Twice before, we have begun the process to stop this man, and twice we have failed. Eight years of our lives as Americans will have been lost, the world left in upheaval against us... and yet now, today, we hope against hope that our moment has finally arrived, that the amazingly powerful force of the Republican Party will somehow be halted. But we know that the Democrats are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and if there's a way to blow this election, they will find it and do it with gusto. Do you feel the same as me? That the Democratic front-runners are a less-than-stellar group of candidates, and that none of them are the slam dunk we wish they were? Of course, there are wonderful things about each of them. Any one of them would be infinitely better than what we have now. Personally, Congressman Kucinich, more than any other candidate, shares the same positions that I have on the issues (although the UFO that picked ME up would only take me as far as Kalamazoo). But let's not waste time talking about Dennis. Even he is resigned to losing, with statements like the one he made yesterday to his supporters in Iowa to throw their support to Senator Obama as their second choice. So, it's Hillary, Obama, Edwards -- now what do we do? Two months ago, Rolling Stone magazine asked me to do a cover story where I would ask the hard questions that no one was asking in one-on-one interviews with Senators Clinton, Obama and Edwards. The Top Democrats Face Off with Michael Moore. The deal was that all three candidates had to agree to let me interview them or there was no story. Obama and Edwards agreed. Mrs. Clinton said no, and the cover story was thus killed. Why would the love of my life, Hillary Clinton, not sit down to talk with me? What was she afraid of? Those of you who are longtime readers of mine may remember that 11 years ago I wrote a chapter (in my first book) entitled, My Forbidden Love for Hillary. I was fed up with the treatment she was getting, most of it boringly sexist, and I thought somebody should stand up for her. I later met her and she thanked me for referring to her as one hot s***kicking feminist babe. I supported and contributed to her run for the U.S. Senate. I think she is a decent and smart person who loves this country, cares deeply about kids, and has put up with more crap than anyone I know of (other than me) from the Crazy Right. Her inauguration would be a thrilling sight, ending 218 years of white male rule in a country where 51% of its citizens are female and 64% are either female or people of color. And yet, I am sad to say, nothing has disappointed me more than the disastrous, premeditated vote by Senator Hillary Clinton to send us to war in Iraq. I'm not only talking about her first vote that gave Mr. Bush his authorization to invade -- I'm talking about every single OTHER vote she then cast for the next four years, backing and funding Bush's illegal war, and doing so with verve. She never met a request from the White House for war authorization that she didn't like. Unlike the Kerrys and the Bidens who initially voted for authorization but later came to realize the folly of their decision, Mrs. Clinton continued to cast numerous votes for the war until last March -- four long years of pro-war votes, even after 70% of the American public had turned against the war. She has steadfastly refused to say that she was wrong about any of this, and she will not apologize for her culpability in America's worst-ever foreign policy disaster. All she can bring herself to say is that she was misled by faulty intelligence. Let's assume that's true. Do you want a President who is so easily misled? I wasn't misled, and millions of others who took to the streets in February of 2003 weren't misled either. It was simply amazing that we knew the war was wrong when none of us had been briefed by the CIA, none of us were national security experts, and none of us had gone on a weapons inspection tour of Iraq. And yet... we knew we were being lied to! Let me ask those of you reading this letter: Were YOU misled -- or did you figure it out sometime between October of 2002 and March of 2007 that George W. Bush was up to something rotten? Twenty-three other senators were
[FairfieldLife] Clinton Fear Mongering/Agent of Status Quo'
The Clinton campaign has learned all that it can: From the Republican Playbook, As they are using fear, just like George W. Bush. Clinton is more an agent of the status quo... - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Practice Since Blake
Spiritual Practice Since Blake: A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake it has continued or ended in various ways not absolutely stale, authoritarian and rigid. There has been a progression which is in the American experience with it. For example, Yogananda's group SRF now seems to have survived the death of their guru. They do have enduring active spiritual practice communities facilitating that work. Again last summer they gathered for an annual week `convocation' near LA for about 10 days of long group meditations with about 4000 people. In their communities they do regular long powerful group meditations as part of their ongoing spiritual practice. By a same kind of coin as with TM, it could be as easy to say that so much of the `positivity' of late that the TMorg points to as evidence is actually due to the SRF 4000 meditators in practice together last summer. The powerful lasting influence of a larger n=squared number by contrast. After all, exponentially 4000 powerful SRFmeditators sitting in practice is a lot more strong than 1700 sleeping TM-sidhas in recline in group. Sit with the shakti of a SRF group meditation if you have not, to judge it. They got shakti that is alive in a way that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a forlorn disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement. -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to William Blake, movements always end like this--stale, authoritarian, rigid. They begin with fiery spirit and end in ashes. He describes the process in some detail and at great depth in his Book of Urizen, which I read when I first got my children involved with TM, and I thought, hmm, here's a test case, and it has been amazing to see how it went down exactly like the man said it would. So, perhaps, there is no need to speak of failure. Instead, we can realize that this is the natural process for any movement. This does not mean that there is anything wrong with the technique. Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Effect Quantum-Failure Essay snip Vaj vajranatha@ ... wrote: Naw. If you're following a tradition of continuous success in deep meditation (for example), the only evidence that has any meaning is whether or not you succeed at your particular practice! Most yogis could give two hoots about what their EEG says. (Unless of course it's an unscrupulous yogi and they're using it to bolster sales and marketing efforts...) Doug writing: Vaj, that is some good writing. Quite an encapsulation of this thread in two sentences. Works well also in conjunction with the flat observation from Gilpin's essay in a conclusion about FF, Gilpin: We all know how it turned out. After a lifetime of personal micromanagement, the TM movement is a grim, authoritarian theocracy. A medieval caste system--complete with a god-king and his court of rajas--where status is determined largely by the size of one's bank account We tried creating our own reality and it failed. Our future, if we have one, lies in the rational, objective, scientific world that we all inhabit. It may not seem exciting after the mystical wonders of the last generation, but it's our best hope. ..xo
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
(snip) Actually neither likes to hand with Daddy Bush, Clinton did PR with Daddy Bush to raise Katrina money and it's customary for ex presidents to be civil with each other, but it's crazy to say they have similar political constituencies. Neither Clinton is a radical change type of politician, both are in bed with lobbyists, but that doesn't mean H Clinton is the same as Bush JR. Who does Jimmy Carter hang with? The Clinton's to me, stand for the same things as Bush: Greed, Self-Grandiousity, Lust, and Power... Anyone named Clinton is the most polarizing figure in politics to the wingnuts who seem to still believe the mountain of clinton conspiracies they made up in the 90s, all of which were nonsense. She is and will be hated by many people, just like Bush is hated now... I don't see how this could be good. Obama is the only real choice, for a transformational government. The rest are illusion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Who does Jimmy Carter hang with? The Clinton's to me, stand for the same things as Bush: Greed, Self-Grandiousity, Lust, and Power... You forgot wrath, envy, pride, gluttony, and sloth... Anyone named Clinton is the most polarizing figure in politics to the wingnuts who seem to still believe the mountain of clinton conspiracies they made up in the 90s, all of which were nonsense. She is and will be hated by many people, just like Bush is hated now... I don't see how this could be good. Obama is the only real choice, for a transformational government. The rest are illusion.
[FairfieldLife] There's no crying in baseball...
...and there's no gurus in the TM Program. Discuss amongst yourselves.
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul: both sides now
From Brandon Nelson, Fairfield attorney: Dear friends: I have alot of smart, progressive friends who are waving huge Ron Paul signs in their life. I've heard him speak, and I've talked to many of these people, but I decided to do some of my own research on exactly what he stands for. Here are the results of this research: There are two sides to Ron Paul. 1. On foreign policy, he wants the US out of every country except our own. That translates as a progressive alternative to the aggressive/destructive foreign policies of the last 25 years. And he believes, correctly and obviously, that only Congress can authorize the use of force against another nation (10-9-07). He wants us to bring our troops and our presence home, somewhat quicker than most of the Democratic candidates. I tend to agree with that, but I do feel that we have an obligation to fix what we have broken to a certain extent. On the other hand, he says we have no moral authority to help end genocide in Darfur and should have no presence or pressure there (9-27-07), and should not help end slavery in Sudan (9-17-07). He commingles non-intervention with blind isolationism. His domestic agenda is a mixed bag. As a libertarian, he doesn't want the federal government having any power or obligations. But unlike many libertarians, he is in favor of allowing individual states those same powers. That means many things. 2. He doesn't like abortions, and has voted against allowing the federal government to prevent abortions, but he has stated a number of times that he would remove the jurisdiction from the federal courts allows the states to pass protection to the unborn. And in the September 17th debate he said he is committed to reversing prior court decision where activist judges strayed from the judicial role and legislated from the bench. That's a very clear shorthand for reversing Roe vs. Wade, and would effectively make virtually all abortions illegal in most of the US states. 3. At the same debate, he was asked if he would you expand federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, and he answered No, and that programs like this are not authorized under the Constitution. As a congressman, he has consistently voted No on any bill allowing any kind of embryonic cell research (he also voted for a bill that would prohibit cloning). So on the one hand he seems to suggest that if the constitution doesn't prohibit something, either states or individuals can do it, but this answer indicates otherwise--that nothing is lawful unless it is explicitly authorized under the constitution. Most human activities are not authorized under the constitution, but I can't believe he actually thinks they need to be. Again, this quote shows his true conservative Christian values coloring his judgment about medical science. The pro-choice movement grades his voting record a zero. 4. His record on the environment is right out of Rove's script. He voted No on removing federal oil and gas subsidies, continuing to give tax breaks and subsidies to big oil companies. That's a Republican vote, not a libertarian. He also voted against keeping the moratorium on drilling for oil offshore and permitting new oil refineries to be built in the US (the last one was in 1976), virtually turning our coastal states into leaseholds for oil companies. He also voted No on a bill that would have raised the fuel efficiency standards for cars and given incentives for alternative fuel vehicles, and supported a resolution to repeal the gas tax. He didn't even support Bush's national-energy policy (went too far). I have found no support for any environmental measures from him. In fact, he wants to abolish the Department of Energy (5-15-07) Apparently the US energy policy should simply be the policies of the energy companies currently producing energy. This man is not a friend of the environment and alternative energy development. 5. He wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve, and have only gold and silver as legal tender. (9-17-07) I don't see gold being any more stable than the dollar has been. And I don't see anyone else in Congress agreeing with him so that's not likely to happen. The president can't make that happen by himself. Yet this is part of his proposed agenda. 6. He says he believes in federalism, [that] it's better that we allow these things to be left to the state. (10-21-07) That means the states get to decide our fate. That's how slavery was developed, voting restrictions were created, hog confinements have been allowed to proliferate, and parochial state prejudices often allowed to trump individual rights. Since Paul doesn't recognize individual rights unless they are expressly stated in the constitution, that means the states effectively have the power (9th amendment) to control our lives. On the other hand, he has voted No on extending the Patriot Act, and, like the Democratic candidates has a pretty good (67%) rating by the ACLU on his
[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore supports Edwards -- mostly
Nader, Sheehan, Moore - great Americans - for Edwards - things are looking up for the Edwards campaign, and for all of us. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what Michael Moore has written -- he likes Edwards. Edg MICHAEL MOORE ON THE FENCE: 'I am not endorsing anyone at this point' Wed Jan 02 2008 07:32:44 ET Friends, A new year has begun. And before we've had a chance to break our New Year's resolutions, we find ourselves with a little more than 24 hours before the good people of Iowa tell us whom they would like to replace the man who now occupies three countries and a white house. Twice before, we have begun the process to stop this man, and twice we have failed. Eight years of our lives as Americans will have been lost, the world left in upheaval against us... and yet now, today, we hope against hope that our moment has finally arrived, that the amazingly powerful force of the Republican Party will somehow be halted. But we know that the Democrats are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and if there's a way to blow this election, they will find it and do it with gusto. Do you feel the same as me? That the Democratic front-runners are a less-than-stellar group of candidates, and that none of them are the slam dunk we wish they were? Of course, there are wonderful things about each of them. Any one of them would be infinitely better than what we have now. Personally, Congressman Kucinich, more than any other candidate, shares the same positions that I have on the issues (although the UFO that picked ME up would only take me as far as Kalamazoo). But let's not waste time talking about Dennis. Even he is resigned to losing, with statements like the one he made yesterday to his supporters in Iowa to throw their support to Senator Obama as their second choice. So, it's Hillary, Obama, Edwards -- now what do we do? Two months ago, Rolling Stone magazine asked me to do a cover story where I would ask the hard questions that no one was asking in one-on-one interviews with Senators Clinton, Obama and Edwards. The Top Democrats Face Off with Michael Moore. The deal was that all three candidates had to agree to let me interview them or there was no story. Obama and Edwards agreed. Mrs. Clinton said no, and the cover story was thus killed. Why would the love of my life, Hillary Clinton, not sit down to talk with me? What was she afraid of? Those of you who are longtime readers of mine may remember that 11 years ago I wrote a chapter (in my first book) entitled, My Forbidden Love for Hillary. I was fed up with the treatment she was getting, most of it boringly sexist, and I thought somebody should stand up for her. I later met her and she thanked me for referring to her as one hot s***kicking feminist babe. I supported and contributed to her run for the U.S. Senate. I think she is a decent and smart person who loves this country, cares deeply about kids, and has put up with more crap than anyone I know of (other than me) from the Crazy Right. Her inauguration would be a thrilling sight, ending 218 years of white male rule in a country where 51% of its citizens are female and 64% are either female or people of color. And yet, I am sad to say, nothing has disappointed me more than the disastrous, premeditated vote by Senator Hillary Clinton to send us to war in Iraq. I'm not only talking about her first vote that gave Mr. Bush his authorization to invade -- I'm talking about every single OTHER vote she then cast for the next four years, backing and funding Bush's illegal war, and doing so with verve. She never met a request from the White House for war authorization that she didn't like. Unlike the Kerrys and the Bidens who initially voted for authorization but later came to realize the folly of their decision, Mrs. Clinton continued to cast numerous votes for the war until last March -- four long years of pro-war votes, even after 70% of the American public had turned against the war. She has steadfastly refused to say that she was wrong about any of this, and she will not apologize for her culpability in America's worst-ever foreign policy disaster. All she can bring herself to say is that she was misled by faulty intelligence. Let's assume that's true. Do you want a President who is so easily misled? I wasn't misled, and millions of others who took to the streets in February of 2003 weren't misled either. It was simply amazing that we knew the war was wrong when none of us had been briefed by the CIA, none of us were national security experts, and none of us had gone on a weapons inspection tour of Iraq. And yet... we knew we were being lied to! Let me ask those of you reading this letter: Were YOU misled -- or did you figure it out sometime between October of 2002 and March of 2007 that George W. Bush was up to something rotten? Twenty-three
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:36 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. And on and on and on Shemp, just out of curiosity, does all this--your last several posts-- come under the heading of unhinged rant? First you start with Edward's supposed shady dealings as an attorney, then into a totally unrelated story about his son's death, then segue --seamlessly, at that--into rumors Rick spreads about MMY and wind up by bashing Amma. Who's next--Bozo the clown? Mother Theresa? Barry? Judy? Ever since Off left, the office of forum loony being clearly vacant and nature abhorring a vacuum and all that, it was desperately obvious that someone would need to sally forth to rectify the situation. Thank you for volunteering for this important and necessary position. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:36 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. And on and on and on Shemp, just out of curiosity, does all this--your last several posts-- come under the heading of unhinged rant? ...I prefer inspired rants... First you start with Edward's supposed shady dealings as an attorney, then into a totally unrelated story about his son's death, ...fascinating story, wasn't it, delving into the psyche of someone who may have his finger on the nuclear button. That may be something voting Americans may want to know about. then segue --seamlessly, ...ooh, thank you, Salvatore, I take that as a complement... at that--into rumors Rick spreads about MMY and wind up by bashing Amma. Who's next--Bozo the clown? Mother Theresa? Barry? Judy? ...it all depends upon whether I can seamlessly segueway into discussions on those topics and whether, in fact, I want to talk on those topics. You see, my free-association style of thinking and writing is designed to please no one but me. If you don't like it, don't read my posts. But, for years now, you obviously do or else you wouldn't take to the time to both read them and respond to them. So I count you amongst my most devoted fans, Salvatore... Ever since Off left, the office of forum loony being clearly vacant and nature abhorring a vacuum and all that, it was desperately obvious that someone would need to sally forth to rectify the situation. Thank you for volunteering for this important and necessary position. :) ...so I take it that you will be joining me in my call to do away with the 50 posts per week rule! Thanks, Sal! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:36 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. And on and on and on Shemp, just out of curiosity, does all this--your last several posts--come under the heading of unhinged rant? First you start with Edward's supposed shady dealings as an attorney, then into a totally unrelated story about his son's death, then segue --seamlessly, at that--into rumors Rick spreads about MMY and wind up by bashing Amma. Who's next--Bozo the clown? Mother Theresa? Barry? Judy? I'll take next. :-) Shemp goes a little crazy when people start talking real democracy. Especially when someone like Edwards use a phrase like I absolutely believe to my soul that this corporate greed and corporate power has an ironclad hold on our democracy and people here applaud him for doing so. You see, Shemp STANDS for corporate greed and power. He thinks Edwards is talking about HIM when he uses that phrase. He's wrong. Oh, sure, Edwards IS talking about people like Shemp when he uses that phrase, but the phrase that SHEMP should *really* be upset about was the one used by Michael Moore to describe the health insurance industry: They are the enemy. Shemp is the enemy. Of everything that a spiritual life (or even a decent life) stands for, which for me is compassion for one's fellow man, especially those less fortunate than we are. Not ONCE on this forum have I seen Shemp care about anyone but himself. His perfect candidate would be someone who promises to tax the poor and the middle class and give the money to him. NOW he'll take me on. :-) And I'll do what I always do and laugh at him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? posting in a chat group is not publishing I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. of course shemp has posts on the internet titled Amma's Sex Scandal which isn't even about any sex scandal at all since there aren't any about amma, but just shemp's way of getting attention for his long winded diabribe about amma's tote board which anyone who has actually gone to see Amma knows isn't a tota board but a way of letting people with tokens for getting darshan when to get into line. Why, only yesterday, you eagerly forwarded as a post to this forum the most vile, unsubstantiated email from one of your fellow ex-TM malcontents suggesting all sorts of conspiracy, sex, and money boondoggles attributed to the person you spent over 20 years in a master-disciple relationship with (which was a complete bastardization of the TM Program in the first place on your part...but that's another story). I guess until the TMO releases its own public analysis of its own financial boondoggles then according to shemp it's all just rumor and we should all just ignore it. I've done my own research and spoken with many former tmo personnel with first hand knowledge of these things and the whole TMO financials stinks big time, esp in India. I'd love to have more info, but due to the TMO's amazingly secret handling of its affairs, it's necessary to dig around and once in awhile you come across good leads in places like this. I don't consider Shemp a good lead as he's never worked in any significant position in the TMO and as far as I can tell doesn't have a clue about what really goes on in the inner circle, which is obvious from the fact that he thinks MMY is not the one who requires strict master-disciple obedience from his followers. And, hey, didn't you relate to us recently that on your latest visit to Amma you still haven't gotten over that little piece of sex- psychosis you're still obsessing on by going to the microphone -- yet again! -- and asked her about saints that don't live up to their hype? This is your idea of credibility??? God, man, get over it! We know that you couldn't handle Maharishi's mantra and that, reluctantly, Amma assigned a less powerful one to you (after you badgered her to) that pacified your inability to deal with the purification process of daily meditation with your real mantra (hey, all you had to do was cut down to 10 minutes a day, not change mantras, you big dummy). Get on with your life and stop obsessing over Maharishi and his sex life. Your credibility on this issue is NOT of the highest spiritual standards, Rick. You are in danger of leaving a legacy not of the many hundreds (or thousands) of people you initiated into TM but, rather, the unsubstantiated 2nd or 3rd hand accusations by you of someone else's sex life. A nice cesspool of rumors and innuendo to float around the Akashik Records...all courtesy of Rick Archer, the National Enquirer of Spirituality personified. Boy, that's quite a legacy to be proud of, Rick. Take my word for it: Maharishi's diddling or not diddling young girls will have NOTHING to do with whether or not you get enlightened. Your continual obsession with it, however, will. For me it's a very good thing spiritually that the truth about the secret sex lives of numerous (celibate) gurus and teachers has come out over the past 20 yrs or so. This has cleared away lots of dangerous glorification of these human beings and clarified the discussion about enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Jyotish Analysis of John Edwards' Birth Chart
To All: Over a year ago, we discussed the chart of John Edwards in a seminar. In the rashi chart, he has the 10th house lord in the 12th house. Ordinarily, this position is not good for career matters. However, due to other yogas in the navamsha chart, Edwards had been able to earn a fairly decent living as a lawyer specializing in hospitalization and health issues due to malpractice and negligence. We should note that the 12th house also represents hospitalization. Considering that he is running for the highest office in the land, I don't believe his chart is strong enough to win the presidency. Nonetheless, if he does win, it would only mean that the USA is in such a bad situation, resembling hospitalization, that destiny would allow Edwards to win the presidency. Regards, John R.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: And on and on and on Shemp, just out of curiosity, does all this--your last several posts--come under the heading of unhinged rant? First you start with Edward's supposed shady dealings as an attorney, then into a totally unrelated story about his son's death, then segue --seamlessly, at that--into rumors Rick spreads about MMY and wind up by bashing Amma. Who's next--Bozo the clown? Mother Theresa? Barry? Judy? I'll take next. :-) One brave soul steps forth into the ether. :) Shemp goes a little crazy when people start talking real democracy. Especially when someone like Edwards use a phrase like I absolutely believe to my soul that this corporate greed and corporate power has an ironclad hold on our democracy and people here applaud him for doing so. You see, Shemp STANDS for corporate greed and power. He thinks Edwards is talking about HIM when he uses that phrase. He's wrong. Oh, sure, Edwards IS talking about people like Shemp when he uses that phrase, but the phrase that SHEMP should *really* be upset about was the one used by Michael Moore to describe the health insurance industry: They are the enemy. If Shemp or anyone else wants to take Edwards or any other candidate on on the issues, no problem. It's the smarmy (love that word!) personal attacks that really make Shemp look so small-minded. Shemp is the enemy. Of everything that a spiritual life (or even a decent life) stands for, which for me is compassion for one's fellow man, especially those less fortunate than we are. Compassion? For the less fortunate? Gosh, that's for suckers. Not ONCE on this forum have I seen Shemp care about anyone but himself. His perfect candidate would be someone who promises to tax the poor and the middle class and give the money to him. NOW he'll take me on. :-) And I'll do what I always do and laugh at him. That's why I like Shemp's posts, so he's right about at least one thing--I am one of his biggest fans. Having spent years amongst people as self-absorbed and angry as Shmep apparently is, reading what he writes is sort of like looking back at a time-warp: don't mind visiting every now and then, but sure am glad I don't live there any more. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Top Scientist Story from atheism to spirituality
very small excerpt from a lengthy article The Superior Road for Life http://higherreality.googlepages.com/SuperiorRoad.pdf @ http:a //higherreality.googlepages.com/ http://higherreality.googlepages.com/ THE SUPERIOR ROAD FOR LIFE'S JOURNEY: An essay based on a true story Jagdish N. Srivastava CNS Research Professor Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523-1877 After a lengthy life story of atheism, agnosticism, a very successful scientist contemplates Goedel's theorem and reaches some conclusions : . . Notice that this process shall never come to an end. Even if we worked for a million years, Science at that time shall still be an incomplete bunch of axioms, and there will be questions about Nature that cannot be answered yes or no. We thus conclude that Science has a basic limitation, namely, that there shall be no time in the future when it has completely fathomed the depths of Nature. It is a set of axioms that shall always remain incomplete. This is a fact that gives us a glimpse into Reality. So, continuing with my story, this is where I reached in the mid-1960's. I began to see that my deity, Science, was, after all, deficient. I asked: Well, if Science cannot do it, is there something else that can? ... I reached this point in the late sixties. The sleep that began with the days of the study circle was now ending. Shyly, hesitatingly at first, I began to embrace `Spirituality' which, to me, was the attitude that Reality would lead one to. I saw that Reality has no horizons; I decided to let myself go wherever it leads me to. I decided to dedicate myself to research on Science and Spirituality. Since then, I have developed a theory of Reality and Consciousness, which is already at the point where scientific formalism can begin. Science does not stand in contradiction to Spirituality; the former is a tiny and important lower part of the latter. My theory, which I cannot share here for lack of space, is in conformity with the spiritual facts recorded in human experience. As I developed more understanding, I saw that `Dialectical Materialism' is the way of the grounded ones with the wings shorn; while `Dialectical Spiritualism' is for the ones who wish to fly. If one wishes to travel, why not travel first class? Why not take the superior road for life's journey? The price of this travel ticket is not paid in dollars. Rather, one needs to unburden himself so that he can proceed, for only the people are allowed to go on this trip and there is no baggage allowed. The more the baggage that one cannot shed off, the slower will be the person's progress. Even the opium of religion is too much of luggage to carry; one shall have to ingest only the spiritual part and throw the rest out. The road would quickly come out of the terrain of class and other struggles. It will pass through a terrain of peace, that passeth understanding. One shall enjoy the music on this trip most, when he offers himself to be a flute that The Divine can play on. But, remember that for the bamboo to be a flute, holes have to be carved in its bosom. Thus, one has to offer himself for being pierced, cut, and carved. If he is found worthy, he will be shaped. On this journey, one does not hanker after reaching here or there, getting this or that. As the mind is extricated from attachments, aversions, and selfish worldly desires, one reaches a state of indifference towards whatever he knows now about the material world and whatever he may come to know about it in the future. For, what one acquires 9 on the spiritual path cannot be even dreamt of by those who have not experienced it. (Indeed, Bliss and Peace increase, and assume a superior quality. Consciousness increases, leading to a very changed perspective and to new abilities. If one gets attracted to this and wishes to enjoy it, his progress stops. Otherwise, he continues on. As the progress continues, the lures increase greatly, and the chance of further progress is sharply reduced. It is in this sense that the road becomes increasingly difficult, as we move further.) So, shedding aside the selfish worldly fever, giving up the luggage of `mine-ness', stopping the entertaining of selfish worldly hopes, renouncing all actions to the Divine, filled with determination to continue moving, let us proceed on the superior road. Why settle for less? Other Articles: The Superior Road for Life http://higherreality.googlepages.com/SuperiorRoad.pdf Logic and Rationality http://higherreality.googlepages.com/LogicGoedelsTheorem.pdf Science and Spirituality http://higherreality.googlepages.com/ScienceandSpirituality.pdf Gita and Fear-Based Doctrines http://higherreality.googlepages.com/GitaTeachings.pdf Life Comes from Life Part 1 http://higherreality.googlepages.com/LifeComesfromLifePart1.pdf Life Comes from Life Part 2 http://higherreality.googlepages.com/LifeComesfromLifePart2.pdf Life Comes from
[FairfieldLife] One man, one vote...unless you're a lawmaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
Vaj wrote: Bob both the use of onions and garlic are part of the traditional pharmacopeia of Ayurveda, as well the the prescription of meats ... i can confirm what vaj says regarding garlic; there is a MAPI formula that includes garlic that i often use, it gives relief to arthritic joints. i assume that it is not tamasic if combined with other co-factor ingredients; the concoction as a whole is ayurvedic, and therefore presumedly sattvic. normally, i have some allergic reaction to garlic and onions, but have no allergic reaction with the garlic blend from mapi.
[FairfieldLife] The nature of self
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B26asyGKDo
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:36 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. And on and on and on Shemp, just out of curiosity, does all this--your last several posts--come under the heading of unhinged rant? First you start with Edward's supposed shady dealings as an attorney, then into a totally unrelated story about his son's death, then segue --seamlessly, at that--into rumors Rick spreads about MMY and wind up by bashing Amma. Who's next--Bozo the clown? Mother Theresa? Barry? Judy? I'll take next. :-) Shemp goes a little crazy when people start talking real democracy. Especially when someone like Edwards use a phrase like I absolutely believe to my soul that this corporate greed and corporate power has an ironclad hold on our democracy and people here applaud him for doing so. If corporate greed and corporate power has an ironclad grip on democracy, they do so because the will of the people, through the democratic process, allows that to happen. You see, Barry, there is no corporation in America that gets to vote. The people own that franchise and the reality is that, through what very well may be their sheepishness, they continue to vote in candidates who allow the corporate influence -- for better or worse -- to continue unabated. We really do get the government we deserve. You see, Shemp STANDS for corporate greed and power. He thinks Edwards is talking about HIM when he uses that phrase. Corporate greed and power are good things. What Barry and others may not understand is that a corporation that sells goods and services in a free market society does so at the daily whims of the consumers. Ultimately, it is the consumer who daily votes with his dollar who decides who, metaphorically speaking, continues in office (i.e. corporate power). But I don't think Edwards is talking about ME because I don't read much of the preening Breck Girl says. By and large I ignore him...something Barry can't seem to do with me, in spite of the fact that he has solemnly vowed never to either read nor respond to my posts. Like his 11-year obsession with Judy, he is beginning to latch on to me like a calf to the teat of its ewe. It's amusing at best and pitfully at worst. He's wrong. Oh, sure, Edwards IS talking about people like Shemp when he uses that phrase, but the phrase that SHEMP should *really* be upset about was the one used by Michael Moore to describe the health insurance industry: They are the enemy. Boy, maybe you DON'T read my posts, Barry. If you did, you'd see what I believe about the healthcare industry which is that it is the OPPOSITE of what I believe in, which is a non- regulated free market which includes all sorts of alternative medicines and no more regulated monopolies like the AMA. But go ahead and believe in your stereotypes, Barry. Shemp is the enemy. Of everything that a spiritual life (or even a decent life) stands for, which for me is compassion for one's fellow man, especially those less fortunate than we are. I am the enemy of false compassion, yes. The false compassion of trendy leftists that purport to care for the poor yet institute policies that ultimately destroy them. Yes, I despise the kind of compassion that you, Barry, stand for...the kinds of Great Society policies of a Lyndon Johnson that has and continues to destroy generations of African-Americans, as just one example. Not ONCE on this forum have I seen Shemp care about anyone but himself. His perfect candidate would be someone who promises to tax the poor and the middle class and give the money to him. Actually, you're not too far off. The poor do not pay enough taxes, the middle classes probably pay a little too much and, yes, the rich are far, far overtaxed. UNJUSTLY untaxed. As for finding a formula where all the money would go to me? Heck, you propose a workable formula to achieve such a goal, and I'll sign up for it. NOW he'll take me on. :-) And I'll do what I always do and laugh at him. What you DON'T do is keep your word, which is to keep to your promise not to read or respond to my posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? posting in a chat group is not publishing Uh, the dictionay disagrees with you, Boob: (from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/publish ) 1. to issue (printed or otherwise reproduced textual or graphic material, computer software, etc.) for sale or distribution to the public. 2. to issue publicly the work of: Random House publishes Faulkner. 3. to announce formally or officially; proclaim; promulgate. 4. to make publicly or generally known. 5. Law. to communicate (a defamatory statement) to some person or persons other than the person defamed. verb (used without object) 6. to issue newspapers, books, computer software, etc.; engage in publishing: The new house will start to publish next month. 7. to have one's work published: She has decided to publish with another house. I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. of course shemp has posts on the internet titled Amma's Sex Scandal which isn't even about any sex scandal at all since there aren't any about amma, but just shemp's way of getting attention for his long winded diabribe about amma's tote board which anyone who has actually gone to see Amma knows isn't a tota board but a way of letting people with tokens for getting darshan when to get into line. Whew! I have to hold my breath getting through your rather long sentences but, okay, I've done it. Yes, you're absolutely right in your analysis above about Amma and my post about her. But that was the POINT, Dunderhead. And that's why I said in the very first paragraph of the piece that Amma wasn't caught in an actual sex situation. Look, readers, for yourselves: http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2007/04/ammas-sex-scandal.html Why, only yesterday, you eagerly forwarded as a post to this forum the most vile, unsubstantiated email from one of your fellow ex- TM malcontents suggesting all sorts of conspiracy, sex, and money boondoggles attributed to the person you spent over 20 years in a master-disciple relationship with (which was a complete bastardization of the TM Program in the first place on your part...but that's another story). I guess until the TMO releases its own public analysis of its own financial boondoggles then according to shemp it's all just rumor and we should all just ignore it. My point is not that the TMO does NOT have alot to answer to, especially in the area of finances. Indeed, anyone that is familiar with my writings on this forum know very well how critical I am and have been regarding the TMO and the way they run things. My point was that Rick Archer -- like a gossip rage, like the National Enquirer, like the Drudge Report -- publishes unsubstantiated rumors and unfounded information. I made this comment and made the references I did because it was Rick himself that, in countering one of my posts, invoked the subject of credibility, not me. I was responding to HIM. I've done my own research and spoken with many former tmo personnel with first hand knowledge of these things and the whole TMO financials stinks big time, esp in India. I'd love to have more info, but due to the TMO's amazingly secret handling of its affairs, it's necessary to dig around and once in awhile you come across good leads in places like this. I don't consider Shemp a good lead as he's never worked in any significant position in the TMO and as far as I can tell doesn't have a clue about what really goes on in the inner circle, which is obvious from the fact that he thinks MMY is not the one who requires strict master-disciple obedience from his followers. And, hey, didn't you relate to us recently that on your latest visit to Amma you still haven't gotten over that little piece of sex- psychosis you're still obsessing on by going to the microphone -- yet again! -- and asked her about saints that don't live up to their hype? This is your idea of credibility??? God, man, get over it! We know that you couldn't handle Maharishi's mantra and that, reluctantly, Amma assigned a less powerful one to you (after you badgered her to) that pacified your inability to deal with the purification process of daily meditation with your real mantra (hey, all you had to do was cut down to 10 minutes a day, not change mantras, you big dummy). Get on with your life and stop obsessing over Maharishi and his sex life. Your
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
Didn't Hare Krishna Das come to Fairfield about a year ago and give a concert? I've seen his DVD and enjoyed it very much! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: Bob both the use of onions and garlic are part of the traditional pharmacopeia of Ayurveda, as well the the prescription of meats ... i can confirm what vaj says regarding garlic; there is a MAPI formula that includes garlic that i often use, it gives relief to arthritic joints. i assume that it is not tamasic if combined with other co-factor ingredients; the concoction as a whole is ayurvedic, and therefore presumedly sattvic. normally, i have some allergic reaction to garlic and onions, but have no allergic reaction with the garlic blend from mapi.
[FairfieldLife] The Free Will Theorem
Conway-Kochen Free Will Theorem. If this could be applied to the macro-world in some analogous way, then the questions we ask about existence, and where we are headed (including politics, etc...) are continually shaping the outcome; the conversely the probably outcome is already influencing the questions we ask now. //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will_theoremFree will theoremFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search The free will theorem of John H. Conway and Simon Kochen states that, if we have a certain amount of free will, then, subject to certain assumptions, so do some elementary particles. A preprint has appeared in the arXiv on Apr 11, 2006.Contents[hide] * 1 Axioms* 2 The theorem* 3 Problems and limitations* 4 See also* 5 References [edit] Axioms The proof of the theorem relies on three axioms, Conway calls fin, spin, and twin. The spin and twin axioms can be verified experimentally. 1. Fin: There is a maximum speed for propagation of information (not necessarily the speed of light). This assumption rests upon causality.2. Spin: The squared spin component of certain elementary particles of spin one, taken in three orthogonal directions, will be a permutation of (1,1,0).3. Twin: It is possible to quantum entangle two elementary particles, and separate them by a significant distance, so that they have the same squared spin results, without permutation. [edit] The theorem The Kochen-Specker theorem shows that the results of probing the particle can't be determined ahead of time, if the questions aren't. Therefore the orientation is not determined, although the answers from the two particles will agree (spooky action at a distance). Because the answers agree, and there is no communication, the answers cannot depend on the order of the questions. Therefore, unless the questions are predetermined (and the particles can acquire that information), the results are non-deterministic.
[FairfieldLife] Drug that increases sex drive in women = the Apocalypse
FOX News ran the news article below under the title, Viagra For Women. Not really, but that's FOX for ya. The drug is a method of delivering testosterone (which accounts for the sex drive in both men and women) in a handy rub-on gel form. And if it works, I'm sure that women who have a low sex drive will be lining up to buy it. And who *doesn't* want a world full of more women with healthy sex drives, right? That's not where the Apocalypse comes from. No...why I'm thinkin' this drug is the beginning of the end and the harbinger of the Apocalypse is because MEN will start buying it. It's a testosterone supplement, right? They're going to think, All I have to do is rub it on and I'm 'more a man.' Ick. What is the LAST thing the world needs? More men suffering from testosterone poisoning. CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va A drug that could do for women what Viagra has done for men is being tested at the University of Virginia. The drug is a testosterone-laden ointment called LibiGel and it's intended to boost the libido of women who have lost interest in sex. It will be prescribed at UVa in coming months to women who are suffering from hypoactive sexual desire disorder. The condition is believed to affect one-third of American women. It is the most common sexual problem that women have, said Dr. Anita Clayton, a psychiatrist with the UVa Health System and author of the 2007 book Satisfaction: Women, Sex and the Quest for Intimacy. UVa joins 99 other medical institutions participating in testing the drug's efficacy and safety. If given the green light by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Illinois-based BioSante Pharmaceuticals Inc. hopes to offer the drug to any woman complaining of a low sex drive. For now, though, Clayton will enroll 25 women between the ages of 30 and 65 to take part in the national study. Those women must have had both ovaries surgically removed, be currently taking an estrogen supplement and be distressed about their lack of libido. Ovariectomies, or surgical menopause, can lead to a drop in sexual interest because ovaries produce roughly half of the testosterone in a woman's body. Testosterone plays a key role in sexual functioning for men and women. LibiGel comes in a pump bottle. The woman rubs the small dot of gel into the skin of her upper arm. Over the next 24 hours, the gel's testosterone seeps into her bloodstream, boosting her energy and libido. Clayton, who is running the clinical trial at UVa, said the drug is better than previous testosterone treatments because it keeps levels of the chemical constant, much like naturally occurring testosterone. I expect this will work, she said. In its second-phase clinical trials at 17 institutions, LibiGel led to a 283 percent increase of satisfying sexual encounters for the women taking the drug. A lot of women have this problem, but unfortunately they've been largely ignored by pharmaceutical companies, said BioSante's chief executive, Stephen M. Simes. It's not fair that women have no drugs, while men have many.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Philosophical monism is a philosophical position that has a precise definition,
which is, roughly as we've been using the term, to indicate that pure
consciousness and the absolute vacuum state of the quantum field are identical
and coextensive, which makes the brain a receiver of the impulses of a
non-physical field rather than a manufacturer of consciousness. This basic
definition and basic question does not change because we realize that the table
we thought solid is really mostly empty space and energy. So the initial
question still remains. The table may be an illusion (not the usual definition
of illusion) as you say. The individual consciousness may be an illusion
(using your implicit definition) also. But then, the fundamental question
still remains. Is pure consciousness identical and coextensive with the
absolute vacuum state of the quantum field, or not? Most physicists still say
not, while the number who say yes to that proposition
is growing.
- Original Message
From: Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 6:25:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ ...
wrote:
I included you because you're the one who correctly insisted that what folks
were presenting as evidence wasn't evidence. The attractiveness of the
theory is that it makes life after death much more possible than does the
theory that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. Monism would
make life after death a virtual certainty in terms of consciousness
persisting, though that says nothing about individual consciousness
persisting. On that score, I'm with Nitzsche: And immortal Peter! Who could
stand him?
I think there is a better way to approach monism. I don't think it makes any
sense to describe consciousness as an emerging property of brain any more than
the opposite, reality is the result of consciousness. These both suggest
Descartes style dualism. One puts more emphasis on the spiritual/immateria l
the other on the physical/material.
It is my understanding that the physical/material is an illusion. For all
intents and purposes a table appears to be a static object fixed in space.
However that illusion is provided by a useful evolutionary circuit in our
brains that categorizes objects so we may manipulate and interact with them.
Otherwise reality would be impossible for us to comprehend. Survival would be
impossible.
This requires us to live in fiction. The truth requires us to go beyond common
sense. Common sense falsely suggests the sun arcs across the sky yet the truth
is we are on a turning planet. We can not trust common sense. It does well
for base survival challenges but will get us nowhere when exploring the Kosmos
as a whole.
Objects, physical, material things are not static. They are made up of tiny
centers of energy moving very fast. These energy fields make patterns and our
interconnected with all other fields of energy. The table in front of me
appears solid because it is moving very fast. My perception of the table is
further clouded by the fact I do not directly interact with the table but
instead hold a model of the table in my consciousness in order to interact with
it. Thus, I use the history of tables from my past to understand this table.
Thus my mind uses shorthand to fill in my immediate experience of this table.
From this point of view there is no primacy in mind/body dualism. Mind does
not rise from body or vice versa. Instead there is only energy manifesting
itself as a perceived thought or object. Both object and thought are
transient, alter experience, have limited value, are limited in space/time and
are fundamentally unified.
This is monism as I understand it.
s.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
-No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum
State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The
cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be
equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Philosophical monism is a philosophical position that has a precise
definition, which is, roughly as we've been using the term, to
indicate that pure consciousness and the absolute vacuum state of the
quantum field are identical and coextensive, which makes the brain a
receiver of the impulses of a non-physical field rather than a
manufacturer of consciousness. This basic definition and basic
question does not change because we realize that the table we thought
solid is really mostly empty space and energy. So the initial
question still remains. The table may be an illusion (not the usual
definition of illusion) as you say. The individual consciousness may
be an illusion (using your implicit definition) also. But then, the
fundamental question still remains. Is pure consciousness identical
and coextensive with the absolute vacuum state of the quantum field,
or not? Most physicists still say not, while the number who
say yes to that proposition
is growing.
- Original Message
From: Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 6:25:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I included you because you're the one who correctly insisted that
what folks were presenting as evidence wasn't evidence. The
attractiveness of the theory is that it makes life after death much
more possible than does the theory that consciousness is an emergent
property of the brain. Monism would make life after death a virtual
certainty in terms of consciousness persisting, though that says
nothing about individual consciousness persisting. On that score,
I'm with Nitzsche: And immortal Peter! Who could stand him?
I think there is a better way to approach monism. I don't think it
makes any sense to describe consciousness as an emerging property of
brain any more than the opposite, reality is the result of
consciousness. These both suggest Descartes style dualism. One puts
more emphasis on the spiritual/immateria l the other on the
physical/material.
It is my understanding that the physical/material is an illusion.
For all intents and purposes a table appears to be a static object
fixed in space. However that illusion is provided by a useful
evolutionary circuit in our brains that categorizes objects so we may
manipulate and interact with them. Otherwise reality would be
impossible for us to comprehend. Survival would be impossible.
This requires us to live in fiction. The truth requires us to go
beyond common sense. Common sense falsely suggests the sun arcs
across the sky yet the truth is we are on a turning planet. We can
not trust common sense. It does well for base survival challenges
but will get us nowhere when exploring the Kosmos as a whole.
Objects, physical, material things are not static. They are made
up of tiny centers of energy moving very fast. These energy fields
make patterns and our interconnected with all other fields of
energy. The table in front of me appears solid because it is moving
very fast. My perception of the table is further clouded by the fact
I do not directly interact with the table but instead hold a model of
the table in my consciousness in order to interact with it. Thus, I
use the history of tables from my past to understand this table.
Thus my mind uses shorthand to fill in my immediate experience of
this table.
From this point of view there is no primacy in mind/body dualism.
Mind does not rise from body or vice versa. Instead there is only
energy manifesting itself as a perceived thought or object. Both
object and thought are transient, alter experience, have limited
value, are limited in space/time and are fundamentally unified.
This is monism as I understand it.
s.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Are you mixing world views?
- Original Message
From: tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:43:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
-No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the
Vacuum
State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The
cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be
equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
-- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
Philosophical monism is a philosophical position that has a precise
definition, which is, roughly as we've been using the term, to
indicate that pure consciousness and the absolute vacuum state of the
quantum field are identical and coextensive, which makes the brain a
receiver of the impulses of a non-physical field rather than a
manufacturer of consciousness. This basic definition and basic
question does not change because we realize that the table we thought
solid is really mostly empty space and energy. So the initial
question still remains. The table may be an illusion (not the usual
definition of illusion) as you say. The individual consciousness may
be an illusion (using your implicit definition) also. But then, the
fundamental question still remains. Is pure consciousness identical
and coextensive with the absolute vacuum state of the quantum field,
or not? Most physicists still say not, while the number who
say yes to that proposition
is growing.
- Original Message
From: Stu buttsplicer@ ...
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 6:25:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I included you because you're the one who correctly insisted that
what folks were presenting as evidence wasn't evidence. The
attractiveness of the theory is that it makes life after death much
more possible than does the theory that consciousness is an emergent
property of the brain. Monism would make life after death a virtual
certainty in terms of consciousness persisting, though that says
nothing about individual consciousness persisting. On that score,
I'm with Nitzsche: And immortal Peter! Who could stand him?
I think there is a better way to approach monism. I don't think it
makes any sense to describe consciousness as an emerging property of
brain any more than the opposite, reality is the result of
consciousness. These both suggest Descartes style dualism. One puts
more emphasis on the spiritual/immateria l the other on the
physical/material.
It is my understanding that the physical/material is an illusion.
For all intents and purposes a table appears to be a static object
fixed in space. However that illusion is provided by a useful
evolutionary circuit in our brains that categorizes objects so we may
manipulate and interact with them. Otherwise reality would be
impossible for us to comprehend. Survival would be impossible.
This requires us to live in fiction. The truth requires us to go
beyond common sense. Common sense falsely suggests the sun arcs
across the sky yet the truth is we are on a turning planet. We can
not trust common sense. It does well for base survival challenges
but will get us nowhere when exploring the Kosmos as a whole.
Objects, physical, material things are not static. They are made
up of tiny centers of energy moving very fast. These energy fields
make patterns and our interconnected with all other fields of
energy. The table in front of me appears solid because it is moving
very fast. My perception of the table is further clouded by the fact
I do not directly interact with the table but instead hold a model of
the table in my consciousness in order to interact with it. Thus, I
use the history of tables from my past to understand this table.
Thus my mind uses shorthand to fill in my immediate experience of
this table.
From this point of view there is no primacy in mind/body dualism.
Mind does not rise from body or vice versa. Instead there is only
energy manifesting itself as a perceived thought or object. Both
object and thought are transient, alter experience, have limited
value, are limited in space/time and are fundamentally unified.
This is monism as I understand it.
s.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards Let that preening ambulance-chaser give back the $100 million he sucked out of innocent people and then maybe I'll listen to him. I don't know many details of Edwards' legal career, and I doubt you do either, but the innocent people he sucked the money out of were not-so-innocent corporations, who made products that they knew would injure or kill people, but continued to sell them and suppress information about their dangers. Most of the people for whom he sucked the money actually were innocent, such as the girl who got trapped at the bottom of a swimming pool by the strong suction of a drainage grate, whose manufacturer knew it was defective yet didn't bother to recall it or notify those who owned one. You are alleging that most or all of Edwards' cases were frivolous. Show us the evidence. Here's something to wrap you heart around, Rick. Read this and then tell me you'd vote for the guy...oh, and by the way, the following is from a DEMOCRATIC operative named Bob Shrum (his book No Excuses): (Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again. Notice Magoo completely ignores Rick's actual question and asserts an unattributed third hand story that may or may not be accurate - as if that's a sufficient response. ...you mean like Rick Archer does with his Maharishi having sex with female devotee stories? Well, Mr. Bongo Brazil, asserting unattributed third hand stories is the basis for the very creation of FairFieldLife and is a daily occurrance here... You still haven't answered the question, Magoo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element). And akasha being the so-called fifth element is already within the other elements, in fact it's what they have in common. But it is also the first (relative value) to separate from the void. On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote: -No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
[FairfieldLife] Roger Leahy on Why I Support Ron Paul
Fairfielder Roger Leahy has written a letter below which I thought would interest people here. I have always loved to learn from people who are passionate about something - whatever it is. Roger has been following Ron Paul for many years now and so I hope you also enjoy reading this! Brian Dear Friends, On the Eve of the Iowa Caucuses, I thought I finally ought to put into words why I think it is so vital to vote for Ron Paul tomorrow. It would probably take an hour to fully explain why I think Ron Paul is a presidential candidate like no others in either party, and why I feel strongly committed to supporting him. I'll try to cover some of the main points here: I have known of Ron Paul for some years, heard him speak 4 years ago, and have seen him in person 10 times here in Iowa over the past 6 months. Ron Paul is currently serving his 10th term in Congress. I agree with him on probably 95% of issues. Ron Paul is first and foremost a champion of the Constitution. As you know, the Constitution was written primarily to limit the power of the new federal government and protect individual rights from that government. Most government was to be done at the local or state level, with only delineated functions by the Federal government. Ron Paul is a true defender of our constitution. He consistently votes no for every federal spending program that is not constitutional. This may sound radical, but so were our Founding Fathers. They gave us a constitution and a plan to protect individual rights, which have been trampled in recent years. Ron Paul strongly protested and voted against the Patriot Act, one of only a handful of congressmen with the courage to do so in the aftermath of 911. He has been a vocal and leading opponent of domestic wiretapping, Guantanamo, torture, suspension of Habeas Corpus, abuses by our `intelligence agencies, abuses by the IRS, and generally all abuses of individual liberties by our government (regardless of the party in control). He is opposed to all Wars, whether the War on Terror, the War on Iraq or Afghanistan, the War on Drugs, and so forth. I've heard him explain the primary effect of all such wars is to create Fear in the People in order to increase the power of the state so that they will supposedly take care of us. Ron Paul opposed the Iraq and Afghanistan wars from the beginning. He is strongly opposed to sending our military overseas or bombing another country without a congressional declaration of war on that country. Both Republican and Democratic administrations in recent years have maintained a policy of nation building and intervening in the internal affairs of (many) other countries, not heeding the advice of our founding fathers to avoid foreign entanglements. As you well know, we (both Republican and Democratic administrations) have been funding brutal dictators from Noriega to Kadafi to Osama Bin Ladin to Sadam Hussein. The US has usually funded at least one side, and often both sides, of almost every armed conflict in recent history. We have 700 permanent military bases in 130 countries around the world, and Ron Paul wants to bring ALL of those troops home, from Germany, Korea, Japan , not just Iraq. And he want to stop funding of foreign militaries around the world. This goes FAR beyond the plans of any other presidential candidate to my knowledge. I don't know if you heard Ron Paul stand up to ALL of the other Republican candidate in the South Carolina debate. Dr Paul explained why our country will be SAFER if we do NOT have a military presence in the Middle East. He explained that the terrorists hate the US NOT because we are rich and value freedom, but because we have been occupying their territory and bombing them for a decade. After all, they are not attacking Switzerland! Dr Paul has also clearly stated that we should NOT consider attacking Iran or Pakistan, regardless of their internal affairs. I don't believe ANY of the presidential candidate of either party have so unequivocally delineated such a non-interventionist foreign policy, or even come close. Of course we can do better than Bush, but I want a MAJOR philosophical change, not just a smarter nicer man as president of a giant, powerful beurocracy. Our War in Iraq and our failed foreign policy of nation building in general has wasted hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money, and threatens to bankrupt our nation. Dr Paul among all presidential candidates is stressing the need to reform our taxation, economic, banking and financial systems. This is of fundamental importance to our nation. The Federal Reserve System is a PRIVATE central bank which issues our country's currency. We owe our 9 $ Trillion national debt to the Fed and to other nations that lend us money. Inflation of our currency is a hidden tax that hurts all Americans, particularly the poor. Ron Paul wants to
[FairfieldLife] Quantum Lies, was Monism
If they [believers in quantum physics being related to pure consciousness, spirit, etc.] try to take something like the quantum vacuum potential or some quantum level of reality that seems to be unmanifest and they want to say that's spirit, that's Brahman, that's Tao and it gives rise to this manifest world over here. And they want to say that as a concrete actual reality, in other words there really is this thing over here that gives rise to this material electron over here. Now already you have a dualistic spirit! You just fundamentally messed it up right there. Actual non-dual spirit is the suchness of everything that's arising. It doesn't cause anything to do anything. So it's the actual is- ness, the suchness, the emptiness that every single thing--anywhere in the kosmos--is simultaneously. So pure emptiness leaves everything exactly as it finds it. It doesn't push or pull anything because it's not separate from anything. Ken Wilber, Does Physics Prove God? On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Vaj wrote: Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element). And akasha being the so-called fifth element is already within the other elements, in fact it's what they have in common. But it is also the first (relative value) to separate from the void. On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote: -No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
You cannot mix Western physics and Eastern physics like this.
- Original Message
From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:56:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the
space element). And akasha being the so-called fifth element is already
within the other elements, in fact it's what they have in common. But it is
also the first (relative value) to separate from the void.
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote:
-No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum
State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The
cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be
equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul: both sides now
I am glad that more folks are looking into Ron Paul. He's certainly very unusual and at first glance his positions seem simplistic... like his solution to Iraq just come home. So for people checking out his record it's easy to take this view as Brandon has done here. And I have yet to meet a supporter of his (and I have met 100's) who agrees 100% with him on all his positions. But there is a deeper message here. That is that the SYSTEM we have is not working. It's bankrupting the country, destroying confidence in the currency and more. In a nutshell the country and indeed the world is looking to Iowans to sort out which candidates are worthy of their attention. To me all the Democrats are more appealing than any of the other Republicans. But the differences between the Democratic candidates is much smaller when compared to Ron Paul. His solutions are worthy of more attention as they are in line with the Constitution and he understands monetary policy perhaps better than any of them. At least according to these commentators on CNBC: http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/09/ron-paul-on-kudlow-company/ Getting a handle on the sliding dollar seems to me to be pretty fundamental. On the environment and health care Brandon refers to I'd ask you to look to Roger Leahy's letter I posted earlier, I could comment more, but it's dome time now! Brian --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Brandon Nelson, Fairfield attorney: Dear friends: I have alot of smart, progressive friends who are waving huge Ron Paul signs in their life. I've heard him speak, and I've talked to many of these people, but I decided to do some of my own research on exactly what he stands for. Here are the results of this research: There are two sides to Ron Paul. 1. On foreign policy, he wants the US out of every country except our own. That translates as a progressive alternative to the aggressive/destructive foreign policies of the last 25 years. And he believes, correctly and obviously, that only Congress can authorize the use of force against another nation (10-9-07). He wants us to bring our troops and our presence home, somewhat quicker than most of the Democratic candidates. I tend to agree with that, but I do feel that we have an obligation to fix what we have broken to a certain extent. On the other hand, he says we have no moral authority to help end genocide in Darfur and should have no presence or pressure there (9-27-07), and should not help end slavery in Sudan (9-17-07). He commingles non-intervention with blind isolationism. His domestic agenda is a mixed bag. As a libertarian, he doesn't want the federal government having any power or obligations. But unlike many libertarians, he is in favor of allowing individual states those same powers. That means many things. 2. He doesn't like abortions, and has voted against allowing the federal government to prevent abortions, but he has stated a number of times that he would remove the jurisdiction from the federal courts allows the states to pass protection to the unborn. And in the September 17th debate he said he is committed to reversing prior court decision where activist judges strayed from the judicial role and legislated from the bench. That's a very clear shorthand for reversing Roe vs. Wade, and would effectively make virtually all abortions illegal in most of the US states. 3. At the same debate, he was asked if he would you expand federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, and he answered No, and that programs like this are not authorized under the Constitution. As a congressman, he has consistently voted No on any bill allowing any kind of embryonic cell research (he also voted for a bill that would prohibit cloning). So on the one hand he seems to suggest that if the constitution doesn't prohibit something, either states or individuals can do it, but this answer indicates otherwise--that nothing is lawful unless it is explicitly authorized under the constitution. Most human activities are not authorized under the constitution, but I can't believe he actually thinks they need to be. Again, this quote shows his true conservative Christian values coloring his judgment about medical science. The pro-choice movement grades his voting record a zero. 4. His record on the environment is right out of Rove's script. He voted No on removing federal oil and gas subsidies, continuing to give tax breaks and subsidies to big oil companies. That's a Republican vote, not a libertarian. He also voted against keeping the moratorium on drilling for oil offshore and permitting new oil refineries to be built in the US (the last one was in 1976), virtually turning our coastal states into leaseholds for oil companies. He also voted No on a bill that would have raised the fuel efficiency standards for cars
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Lies, was Monism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actual non-dual spirit is the suchness of everything that's arising. It doesn't cause anything to do anything. So it's the actual is-ness, the suchness, the emptiness that every single thing--anywhere in the kosmos--is simultaneously. So pure emptiness leaves everything exactly as it finds it. It doesn't push or pull anything because it's not separate from anything. Ken Wilber, Does Physics Prove God? Woof. Great quote, Vaj. That's it exactly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
---right Vaj! Otherwise, if such an argument were true, this would be a typical example of the Hagelinian-error (equating something - some field, however cosmic or finely-grained) Pure Consciousness; and evidently Hagelin and other physicists comprised their standing as true scientists by cow-towing to MMY's misguided notions about physics. No wonder Hagelin was awarded the Ig-Noble Prize in 1994. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element). And akasha being the so-called fifth element is already within the other elements, in fact it's what they have in common. But it is also the first (relative value) to separate from the void. On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote: -No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
--Precisely!.. Hagelin and MMY are the one's in error: falsely mixing
Pure Consciousness with some field.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You cannot mix Western physics and Eastern physics like this.
- Original Message
From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:56:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the
akasha (the space element). And akasha being the so-called fifth
element is already within the other elements, in fact it's what they
have in common. But it is also the first (relative value) to separate
from the void.
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote:
-No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the
Vacuum
State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The
cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can
be
equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 1, 2008, at 5:37 PM, bob_brigante wrote: This is not really the dahl recipe used by the Hare Krishna people (it is noted that the above recipe is derived from HK's), who go strictly by Ayurveda standards (one of my former students was a member of the HK temple in Los Angeles and I used to eat their excellent food all the time), and would never include tamasic onions (scallions and salsa are mentioned above) in a recipe. Bob both the use of onions and garlic are part of the traditional pharmacopeia of Ayurveda, as well the the prescription of meats. There are certain sadhanas (spiritual practices) like the worship of peaceful wisdom deities, etc. that may prohibit onions, garlic, etc. and if you practice such a sadhana, one can do what they feel is necessary, but it's by no means required (except maybe by fundies). *** The recipe was billed as Hare Krishna dahl, and HK cooks simply do not use onions in their cooking. You can ask em the next time you go by one of their restaurants. To get that oniony flavor, they use black mustard seeds instead. If you want to argue with them that AV uses onions, be my guest, but that they do not use onions in their food is a fact. I am aware that garlic is used in Ayurveda -- in fact, MAPI sells a garlic ghee: Spice your food with turmeric, ginger and garlic cooked in ghee (clarified butter). http://mapi.com/en/ask/q-mentalstress.html Garlic is said to be the blood of Rahu, and is thus both demonic and useful in therapy since Rahu had consumed amrita (the nectar of immortality) before he and Ketu were formed when sliced in half: http://www.cyberastro.com/health/herbs/garlic.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Lies, was Monism
I will check this with physicist friends, but my understanding of the vacuum
state of the quantum field is that it is not separate. In other words,
Wilber's is a straw man argument, unless he's referring to a common
misunderstanding of the quantum vacuum.
- Original Message
From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 4:28:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Lies, was Monism
If they [believers in quantum physics being related to pure
consciousness, spirit, etc.] try to take something like the quantum vacuum
potential or some quantum level of reality that seems to be unmanifest and they
want to say that's spirit, that's Brahman, that's Tao and it gives rise
to this manifest world over here. And they want to say that as a concrete
actual reality, in other words there really is this thing over here that
gives rise to this material electron over here. Now already you have a
dualistic spirit! You just fundamentally messed it up right there.
Actual non-dual spirit is the suchness of everything that's arising. It doesn't
cause anything to do anything. So it's the actual is-ness, the suchness, the
emptiness that every single thing--anywhere in the kosmos--is simultaneously.
So pure emptiness leaves everything exactly as it finds it. It doesn't push or
pull anything because it's not separate from anything.
Ken Wilber, Does Physics Prove God?
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Vaj wrote:
Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element).
And akasha being the so-called fifth element is already within the other
elements, in fact it's what they have in common. But it is also the first
(relative value) to separate from the void.
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote:
-No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum
State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The
cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be
equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:09 PM, bob_brigante wrote: The recipe was billed as Hare Krishna dahl, and HK cooks simply do not use onions in their cooking. You can ask em the next time you go by one of their restaurants. To get that oniony flavor, they use black mustard seeds instead. If you want to argue with them that AV uses onions, be my guest, but that they do not use onions in their food is a fact. Oh I'm not arguing with you. Their main center off the Juniata River in Pennsylvania and their restaurants in Philly I've frequented a good bit. They do not in their official places use tamasic herbs or substances ever. But in Ayurveda they do. In fact they prescribe them dietarily (and as someone else shared) or in various botanical and mineral compounds. The recipe was a variation on the traditional dal of the HK's so it could be adopted for all doshas and adopted as needed, not as a fixed recipe or one that has to exclude or include tamasic herbs. Adjust it as necessary, that's the beauty of Ayurveda.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Nonetheless, people in the TMO (IIRC it was Hagelin) have tried. I believe they tried to theoretically connect the five elements to five quantum spin-types! In the original multidisciplinary, self-published MIU curriculum texts they went into considerable detail on the parallels and analogous nature of quantum descriptions of reality and meditation/ consciousness--but at the very end they would disclose that these were all just parallels and not the actual reality of the situation since physical physics was an entirely different realm (from consciousness) and the examples were merely analogies. You could 'only take analogies so far'. However at some point, the analogy disclaimer appears to have been dropped, at least in more public pronouncements (hopefully they've retained the disclaimer in the curriculum of, now, MUM). On Jan 2, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: You cannot mix Western physics and Eastern physics like this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
But it was you mixing them: The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha
(the space element).
- Original Message
From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:18:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
Nonetheless, people in the TMO (IIRC it was Hagelin) have tried. I
believe they tried to theoretically connect the five elements to five quantum
spin-types!
In the original multidisciplinary, self-published MIU curriculum texts they
went into considerable detail on the parallels and analogous nature of quantum
descriptions of reality and meditation/consciou sness--but at the very end they
would disclose that these were all just parallels and not the actual reality of
the situation since physical physics was an entirely different realm (from
consciousness ) and the examples were merely analogies. You could 'only take
analogies so far'.
However at some point, the analogy disclaimer appears to have been dropped,
at least in more public pronouncements (hopefully they've retained the
disclaimer in the curriculum of, now, MUM).
On Jan 2, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Angela Mailander wrote:
You cannot mix Western physics and Eastern physics like this.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spiritual Practice Since Blake: A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake it has continued or ended in various ways not absolutely stale, authoritarian and rigid. There has been a progression which is in the American experience with it. According to William Blake, movements always end like this--stale, authoritarian, rigid. Differently, an exact opposite of this kind of stale doctrinal fate like of the TMmovement could be: -J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/7513 For example, Yogananda's group SRF now seems to have survived the death of their guru. They do have enduring active spiritual practice communities facilitating that work. Again last summer they gathered for an annual week `convocation' near LA for about 10 days of long group meditations with about 4000 people. In their communities they do regular long powerful group meditations as part of their ongoing spiritual practice. By a same kind of coin as with TM, it could be as easy to say that so much of the `positivity' of late that the TMorg points to as evidence is actually due to the SRF 4000 meditators in practice together last summer. The powerful lasting influence of a larger n=squared number by contrast. After all, exponentially 4000 powerful SRFmeditators sitting in practice is a lot more strong than 1700 sleeping TM- sidhas in recline in group. Sit with the shakti of a SRF group meditation if you have not, to judge it. They got shakti that is alive in a way that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a forlorn disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement. -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: According to William Blake, movements always end like this-- stale, authoritarian, rigid. They begin with fiery spirit and end in ashes. He describes the process in some detail and at great depth in his Book of Urizen, which I read when I first got my children involved with TM, and I thought, hmm, here's a test case, and it has been amazing to see how it went down exactly like the man said it would. So, perhaps, there is no need to speak of failure. Instead, we can realize that this is the natural process for any movement. This does not mean that there is anything wrong with the technique. Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Effect Quantum-Failure Essay
[FairfieldLife] Re: What you may not know about John Edwards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Oh, really. You call publishing every single little rumor -- unsubstantiated or otherwise -- that you hear about Maharishi a high level of credibility? posting in a chat group is not publishing I suggest you take the hint that your current guru -- the tote- board hugging shyster known as Amma -- has not so subtly suggested to you and not continue to dwell upon and obsess upon the sex lives or alleged sins of enlightened masters. Why, only yesterday, you eagerly forwarded as a post to this forum the most vile, unsubstantiated email from one of your fellow ex- TM malcontents suggesting all sorts of conspiracy, sex, and money boondoggles attributed to the person you spent over 20 years in a master-disciple relationship with (which was a complete bastardization of the TM Program in the first place on your part...but that's another story). And, hey, didn't you relate to us recently that on your latest visit to Amma you still haven't gotten over that little piece of sex- psychosis you're still obsessing on by going to the microphone -- yet again! -- and asked her about saints that don't live up to their hype? This is your idea of credibility??? God, man, get over it! We know that you couldn't handle Maharishi's mantra and that, reluctantly, Amma assigned a less powerful one to you (after you badgered her to) that pacified your inability to deal with the purification process of daily meditation with your real mantra (hey, all you had to do was cut down to 10 minutes a day, not change mantras, you big dummy). A nice cesspool of rumors and innuendo to float around the Akashik Records...all courtesy of Rick Archer, the National Enquirer of Spirituality personified. Boy, that's quite a legacy to be proud of, Rick. Could not have said it better myself. I wonder what Amma thinks this RA fellow is up to this time, what he really wants from her, and what he is cooking behind the scenes. Ruining trust totally once and then just continue with another Master as if nothing happened. RA must think Amma is really, really stupid. He will be in for a surprise - sooner or later.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
Beautiful speech by Krishnamurti. Thanks for posting it. a
- Original Message
From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:31:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ ... wrote:
Spiritual Practice Since Blake:
A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake it has
continued or ended in various ways not absolutely stale,
authoritarian and rigid. There has been a progression which is in
the American experience with it.
According to William Blake, movements always end like this--stale,
authoritarian, rigid.
Differently, an exact opposite of this kind of stale doctrinal fate
like of the TMmovement could be:
-J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/message/ 7513
For example, Yogananda's group SRF now seems to have survived the
death of their guru. They do have enduring active spiritual
practice
communities facilitating that work. Again last summer they
gathered
for an annual week `convocation' near LA for about 10 days of long
group meditations with about 4000 people. In their communities
they
do regular long powerful group meditations as part of their ongoing
spiritual practice.
By a same kind of coin as with TM, it could be as easy to say that
so
much of the `positivity' of late that the TMorg points to as
evidence
is actually due to the SRF 4000 meditators in practice together
last
summer. The powerful lasting influence of a larger n=squared
number
by contrast. After all, exponentially 4000 powerful SRFmeditators
sitting in practice is a lot more strong than 1700 sleeping TM-
sidhas
in recline in group. Sit with the shakti of a SRF group
meditation
if you have not, to judge it. They got shakti that is alive in a
way
that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a
forlorn
disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement.
-Doug in FF
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
According to William Blake, movements always end like this--
stale,
authoritarian, rigid. They begin with fiery spirit and end in
ashes.
He describes the process in some detail and at great depth in
his Book of Urizen, which I read when I first got my children
involved with TM, and I thought, hmm, here's a test case, and it
has
been amazing to see how it went down exactly like the man said it
would.
So, perhaps, there is no need to speak of failure. Instead, we
can
realize that this is the natural process for any movement. This
does
not mean that there is anything wrong with the technique.
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Effect Quantum-Failure
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:09 PM, bob_brigante wrote: The recipe was billed as Hare Krishna dahl, and HK cooks simply do not use onions in their cooking. You can ask em the next time you go by one of their restaurants. To get that oniony flavor, they use black mustard seeds instead. If you want to argue with them that AV uses onions, be my guest, but that they do not use onions in their food is a fact. Oh I'm not arguing with you. Their main center off the Juniata River in Pennsylvania and their restaurants in Philly I've frequented a good bit. They do not in their official places use tamasic herbs or substances ever. But in Ayurveda they do. In fact they prescribe them dietarily (and as someone else shared) or in various botanical and mineral compounds. The recipe was a variation on the traditional dal of the HK's so it could be adopted for all doshas and adopted as needed, not as a fixed recipe or one that has to exclude or include tamasic herbs. Adjust it as necessary, that's the beauty of Ayurveda. I'm not so sure that classical AV uses onions in therapy. Certainly, modern day AV in India uses all sorts of things that were not part of practice in Vedic times. But then India is a very messy place exactly because people follow the muddled thinking about AV and other practices that has arisen in the Kaliyuga. If India were India, following authentic Vedic practices, it would be a great place to live, instead of brutal, poor, unhealthy and unhappy. This is why Guru Dev sent MMY into the world from the Himalayas, so that the effectiveness of Vedic culture could be restored. Onions might be mentioned in ancient AV texts, but I don't recall any such mention in my reading of those texts -- maybe you have a reference (to an original text, not to somebody's current practice).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They got shakti that is alive in a way that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a forlorn disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement. -Doug in FF So why on earth don't you join them instead of living like a spiritual vampire sucking energy from the TM meditators in Fairfield ?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:47 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They got shakti that is alive in a way that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a forlorn disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement. -Doug in FF So why on earth don't you join them instead of living like a spiritual vampire sucking energy from the TM meditators in Fairfield ? Doug doesn’t suck energy. He glows and radiates happiness and friendliness, as does his wife. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 1/1/2008 12:09 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
I didn't say same Angela, I said similar. It ain't the same, it's merely analogous. On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: But it was you mixing them: The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
I don't think it's a valid analogy--but I don't want to argue about it.
- Original Message
From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 6:04:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
I didn't say same Angela, I said similar. It ain't the same,
it's merely analogous.
On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Angela Mailander wrote:
But it was you mixing them: The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha
(the space element).
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:41 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I'm not so sure that classical AV uses onions in therapy. Certainly, modern day AV in India uses all sorts of things that were not part of practice in Vedic times. But then India is a very messy place exactly because people follow the muddled thinking about AV and other practices that has arisen in the Kaliyuga. If India were India, following authentic Vedic practices, it would be a great place to live, instead of brutal, poor, unhealthy and unhappy. This is why Guru Dev sent MMY into the world from the Himalayas, so that the effectiveness of Vedic culture could be restored. Onions might be mentioned in ancient AV texts, but I don't recall any such mention in my reading of those texts -- maybe you have a reference (to an original text, not to somebody's current practice). The Charaka-samhita praises onions as a diuretic, good for the heart and joints according to a brief search on Google. As similar casual search for garlic uncovered: Acharya Charaka has said that garlic is an effective remedy in conditions like intestinal worm infestations, skin disorders, low libido and erectile dysfunction. Acharya Sushruta has appreciated the uses of this herb in skin disorders, low libido and erectile dysfunction. It also improves memory, modulates voice, enhances complexion, improves eye sight, strengthens bones and joints, improves digestion and regularizes bowel movement. It is very useful in cardiac diseases too.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
On Jan 2, 2008, at 5:52 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: ---right Vaj! Otherwise, if such an argument were true, this would be a typical example of the Hagelinian-error (equating something - some field, however cosmic or finely-grained) Pure Consciousness; and evidently Hagelin and other physicists comprised their standing as true scientists by cow-towing to MMY's misguided notions about physics. No wonder Hagelin was awarded the Ig-Noble Prize in 1994. Indeed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul: both sides now
Just received this point by point rebuttal to Brandon Nelson's email today from Clyde Cleveland. FYI Brian, Brandon is my real estate attorney and a great guy but he is clearly not philosophically aligned with Ron Paul, and on virtually every point he has mistated Dr. Paul's positions on the issues. 1. Non intervention is non intervention , either you believe in allowing people the right to self determination or you don't , Ron Paul believes that we should be an example of freedom in the world. That will create a situation where people will want to emulate the prosperity that we have. If everyone does that and also emulates our non-intervention policy, guess what, that means, a happy, free, prosperous world where no one uses force against anyone else. Sounds pretty good to me. By the way there is a website where people around the world are voting for our candidates. Guess who is winning? Ron Paul , Obama is second but a distant second. People all over the world want freedom. 2. HIs policies would not make abortions illegal in all states, that is ridiculous. Each State would decide, just as it was before Roe vs. Wade, how many states do you think would actually outlaw abortion, probably none. The federal government would have nothing to do with it under a Paul administration. By the way I don't agree with Dr. Paul on abortion but he is so phenomenal on so many other critical issues that I still support him. You will never find a candidate that you agree with on all the issues. Please see Art's statement on this below. 3. You got this wrong, He just does not support the federal government paying for stem cell research. It is up to individuals or state or local governments to do what they want on the issue. 4.He is for removing all subsidies to the oil, gas and coal industry and has been for many years. This would have made alternatives more economically viable decades ago. He is for the right of any individual to go to court to get compensated from any individual or company that pollutes or damages another individual's air, water, or soil. He is very strong on the environment he just doesn't trust the federal US government, which is the biggest polluter in the world, to restore our environment. He raises organic tomatoes and grew up on a farm. He loves the environment and wants alternative fuels to be competitive, he would do that by not allowing the government to keep subsidizing the oil, gas and coal industries which is the current situation. 5 I could make a very strong case that the only issue that really matters in this election is putting a candidate in office that will eliminate the federal reserve and get us back on a monetary system that is in line with our constitution and in line with natural law. There is no more important function of our government, and the current system is inherently flawed and totally destructive to the people. It is great for those who own the privately owned Federal Reserve and their close associates. All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America rise, not from defects in the Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation. #8213;John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 1787 The following web site is a must read for every American. http://www.nccs.net/monetary_reform.html 6. To say slavery developed because of federalism is totally absurd. Many of the founders wanted to eliminate slavery and knew it was absolutely not in tune with the fundamental principles espoused by the founders, but the political reality of the time was such that we needed the southern states to defeat the English. There would have been no United States if those who did not believe in slavery insisted at that time that slavery be outlawed in every state. Virtually every problem we have in this country is because we have become top down vs. bottom up. If you believe that the federal government is better at solving problems and educating our children then the people at the local level you should not vote for Ron Paul. Brandon's version of Ron Paul's view of local control is not even close to what he believes. He has stated clearly that Iowa's position on hog lots is a travesty. Our problem in Iowa is that we have relied on Iowa government to fix a problem that we should be taking care of in our local courts. We have allowed this state to take away our natural rights. It is a private property issue and the state should not be trumping our right to handle these issues in our local courts. This is a result of top down government in action, exactly what Ron wants to eliminate. If we used the court system properly hog lots would disappear in Iowa. 7. Ron Paul does not hate government. He does not like government when it is out of control. If the federal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Spiritual Practice Since Blake: A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake it has continued or ended in various ways not absolutely stale, authoritarian and rigid. There has been a progression which is in the American experience with it. Yogananda with SRF is a good example of how a group can survive the death of a founder. Theirs is not unblemished in story; however, they are active and currently guided by a founding generation who knew the guru. SRF will likely be in transition again as an aging founding generation themselves pass things to a next generation who may not have known the guru personally at all. That time in particular seems is really a point where groups are apt to become extra or ultra doctrinal and potentially splinter over doctrine. Generational moves from the shakti experience of the spiritual practice with the founder and the founding generation towards the next generation where the reference becomes the word of `what was said' and the doctrine of that as that word is re-read, re-played and re-told by a following generation. It can become dead administration and dead doctrine at that point as the shakti of a teaching is administratively let out. Utopian spiritual practice in America is filled repeatedly and sequentially with variations on this theme. -Doug in FF According to William Blake, movements always end like this-- stale, authoritarian, rigid. Differently, an exact opposite of this kind of stale doctrinal fate like of the TMmovement could be: -J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/7513 For example, Yogananda's group SRF now seems to have survived the death of their guru. They do have enduring active spiritual practice communities facilitating that work. Again last summer they gathered for an annual week `convocation' near LA for about 10 days of long group meditations with about 4000 people. In their communities they do regular long powerful group meditations as part of their ongoing spiritual practice. By a same kind of coin as with TM, it could be as easy to say that so much of the `positivity' of late that the TMorg points to as evidence is actually due to the SRF 4000 meditators in practice together last summer. The powerful lasting influence of a larger n=squared number by contrast. After all, exponentially 4000 powerful SRFmeditators sitting in practice is a lot more strong than 1700 sleeping TM- sidhas in recline in group. Sit with the shakti of a SRF group meditation if you have not, to judge it. They got shakti that is alive in a way that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a forlorn disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement. -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: According to William Blake, movements always end like this-- stale, authoritarian, rigid. They begin with fiery spirit and end in ashes. He describes the process in some detail and at great depth in his Book of Urizen, which I read when I first got my children involved with TM, and I thought, hmm, here's a test case, and it has been amazing to see how it went down exactly like the man said it would. So, perhaps, there is no need to speak of failure. Instead, we can realize that this is the natural process for any movement. This does not mean that there is anything wrong with the technique. Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Effect Quantum-Failure Essay
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
shempmcgurk wrote: Didn't Hare Krishna Das come to Fairfield about a year ago and give a concert? I've seen his DVD and enjoyed it very much! hey, i like Krishna Das too; you can listen to him here on MySpace http://www.myspace.com/krishnadas
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug that increases sex drive in women = the Apocalypse
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FOX News ran the news article below under the title, Viagra For Women. Not really, but that's FOX for ya. The drug is a method of delivering testosterone (which accounts for the sex drive in both men and women) in a handy rub-on gel form. And if it works, I'm sure that women who have a low sex drive will be lining up to buy it. And who *doesn't* want a world full of more women with healthy sex drives, right? That's not where the Apocalypse comes from. No...why I'm thinkin' this drug is the beginning of the end and the harbinger of the Apocalypse is because MEN will start buying it. It's a testosterone supplement, right? They're going to think, All I have to do is rub it on and I'm 'more a man.' Ick. What is the LAST thing the world needs? More men suffering from testosterone poisoning. A male version is in development, maybe called Bio-T-Gel.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul: both sides now
Thank You so much for this. It is absolutely critical at this time that Ron Paul's position be fully understood. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brian Horsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just received this point by point rebuttal to Brandon Nelson's email today from Clyde Cleveland. FYI Brian, Brandon is my real estate attorney and a great guy but he is clearly not philosophically aligned with Ron Paul, and on virtually every point he has mistated Dr. Paul's positions on the issues. 1. Non intervention is non intervention , either you believe in allowing people the right to self determination or you don't , Ron Paul believes that we should be an example of freedom in the world. That will create a situation where people will want to emulate the prosperity that we have. If everyone does that and also emulates our non-intervention policy, guess what, that means, a happy, free, prosperous world where no one uses force against anyone else. Sounds pretty good to me. By the way there is a website where people around the world are voting for our candidates. Guess who is winning? Ron Paul , Obama is second but a distant second. People all over the world want freedom. 2. HIs policies would not make abortions illegal in all states, that is ridiculous. Each State would decide, just as it was before Roe vs. Wade, how many states do you think would actually outlaw abortion, probably none. The federal government would have nothing to do with it under a Paul administration. By the way I don't agree with Dr. Paul on abortion but he is so phenomenal on so many other critical issues that I still support him. You will never find a candidate that you agree with on all the issues. Please see Art's statement on this below. 3. You got this wrong, He just does not support the federal government paying for stem cell research. It is up to individuals or state or local governments to do what they want on the issue. 4.He is for removing all subsidies to the oil, gas and coal industry and has been for many years. This would have made alternatives more economically viable decades ago. He is for the right of any individual to go to court to get compensated from any individual or company that pollutes or damages another individual's air, water, or soil. He is very strong on the environment he just doesn't trust the federal US government, which is the biggest polluter in the world, to restore our environment. He raises organic tomatoes and grew up on a farm. He loves the environment and wants alternative fuels to be competitive, he would do that by not allowing the government to keep subsidizing the oil, gas and coal industries which is the current situation. 5 I could make a very strong case that the only issue that really matters in this election is putting a candidate in office that will eliminate the federal reserve and get us back on a monetary system that is in line with our constitution and in line with natural law. There is no more important function of our government, and the current system is inherently flawed and totally destructive to the people. It is great for those who own the privately owned Federal Reserve and their close associates. All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America rise, not from defects in the Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation. #8213;John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 1787 The following web site is a must read for every American. http://www.nccs.net/monetary_reform.html 6. To say slavery developed because of federalism is totally absurd. Many of the founders wanted to eliminate slavery and knew it was absolutely not in tune with the fundamental principles espoused by the founders, but the political reality of the time was such that we needed the southern states to defeat the English. There would have been no United States if those who did not believe in slavery insisted at that time that slavery be outlawed in every state. Virtually every problem we have in this country is because we have become top down vs. bottom up. If you believe that the federal government is better at solving problems and educating our children then the people at the local level you should not vote for Ron Paul. Brandon's version of Ron Paul's view of local control is not even close to what he believes. He has stated clearly that Iowa's position on hog lots is a travesty. Our problem in Iowa is that we have relied on Iowa government to fix a problem that we should be taking care of in our local courts. We have allowed this state to take away our natural rights. It is a private property issue and the state should not be trumping our right to handle these issues in our local courts. This is
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Didn't Hare Krishna Das come to Fairfield about a year ago and give a concert? Yeah he came to Fairfield. Gave a concert out in the banquet room at the Best Western. ie, 'off-campus'. Packed audience of Fairfudlian meditators. Was fabulous. Yes, he is now of an American new age culture saint-seer status. Hundreds of the old meditating community here were there of which some were from the dome program too. Very powerful event. He obviously appreciated it being Fairfield. During the concert he told a nice instructive story about how he weathered the death of his guru. Very poignant and predictive. -Doug in FF I've seen his DVD and enjoyed it very much! hey, i like Krishna Das too; you can listen to him here on MySpace http://www.myspace.com/krishnadas
[FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 5:52 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: ---right Vaj! Otherwise, if such an argument were true, this would be a typical example of the Hagelinian-error (equating something - some field, however cosmic or finely-grained) Pure Consciousness; and evidently Hagelin and other physicists comprised their standing as true scientists by cow-towing to MMY's misguided notions about physics. No wonder Hagelin was awarded the Ig-Noble Prize in 1994. Indeed. Matrixmonitor may not know this, but Vaj certainly does, because I've told him several times: the Ig Nobel awards are not a sort of booby prize calling attention to bad science, much as he might wish they were: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ig_Nobel_Prize http://improbable.com/ig/ If you're going to criticize Hagelin's work, you'll need to do it on the merits, I'm afraid, Vaj.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Monism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't say same Angela, I said similar. It ain't the same, it's merely analogous. It ain't even analogous. On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: But it was you mixing them: The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Doug doesn't suck energy. He glows and radiates happiness and friendliness, Hmm, wonder why he radiates mostly unpleasant cynicism in his posts here?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul: both sides now
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank You so much for this. It is absolutely critical at this time that Ron Paul's position be fully understood. You're welcome. Yes it is critical that we get strong anti-war candidates winning both caucuses tomorrow. I just wrote to Brandon Nelson as he is also my real estate attorney. His letter was ill informed in many respects and I am grateful to Clyde for taking the time to set him right on so many points he had misunderstood about Ron Paul. I would just like to further add that I had dinner with a life long Democrat who decided to vote for Ron Paul for the simple reason that he's the only one who understands that you cannot defeat terrorism with conventional warfare and it is all a tragically mistaken and futile waste of lives and money to be in Iraq at all. And a final point. THIS IS NOT A WASTED VOTE. Ron Paul will win the Jefferson County nomination I predict by a large margin. If you study the past donor-voter ratios in past Iowa caucuses he will also WIN IOWA according to this analysis today: http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=215234 And the media today is MUCH more upbeat about his chances and beginning to realize that there are HUGE numbers of his supporters out there that don't have land line phones and so are not called by pollsters. See especially the CNN Situation Room YouTube below. A vote for Paul is vote for a real lasting peace sound money and restoring the backbone of the US economy which is small businesses of less than 40 employees by getting the Federal Government out of their lives in accord with the Constitution - a document that I believe comes about as close to natural law as any man made law yet written. Brian Today's TV interviews: MSNBC: Ron Paul Intverview to Countdown 1-02-07 4:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtNY4jaNW6w Ron Paul Situation Room w/ Wolf Blitzer 1-02-07 6:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO9grvgeW6Q Ron Paul on Sean Hannity http://www.zshare.net/download/6127559cd921b5 http://www.mediafire.com/?6douz9xzij4 Ron Paul on Sean Hannity with Video Background (same as above) 10:00 http://youtube.com/watch?v=5WN2-4d0T9c Pat Buchanan and Tucker on Ron Paul http://youtube.com/watch?v=h3zkc5xBKyU Edit 1: Discussions on O'Reilly: O'Reilly - Nick Gillespie on Ron Paul (1 of 2) 5:19 http://youtube.com/watch?v=lLptz_qcQeg O'Reilly - Col. Ralph Peters on Ron Paul (2 of 2) 5:35 (booo) http://youtube.com/watch?v=hmpE5GhTM4s Edit 2: CNN Situation Room Roundtable on Ron Paul and Iowa (Blitzer, Cafferty, Toobin, ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh1oKtMS-LE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Dal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:41 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I'm not so sure that classical AV uses onions in therapy. Certainly, modern day AV in India uses all sorts of things that were not part of practice in Vedic times. But then India is a very messy place exactly because people follow the muddled thinking about AV and other practices that has arisen in the Kaliyuga. If India were India, following authentic Vedic practices, it would be a great place to live, instead of brutal, poor, unhealthy and unhappy. This is why Guru Dev sent MMY into the world from the Himalayas, so that the effectiveness of Vedic culture could be restored. Onions might be mentioned in ancient AV texts, but I don't recall any such mention in my reading of those texts -- maybe you have a reference (to an original text, not to somebody's current practice). The Charaka-samhita praises onions as a diuretic, good for the heart and joints according to a brief search on Google. As similar casual search for garlic uncovered: Acharya Charaka has said that garlic is an effective remedy in conditions like intestinal worm infestations, skin disorders, low libido and erectile dysfunction. Acharya Sushruta has appreciated the uses of this herb in skin disorders, low libido and erectile dysfunction. It also improves memory, modulates voice, enhances complexion, improves eye sight, strengthens bones and joints, improves digestion and regularizes bowel movement. It is very useful in cardiac diseases too. *** The Ayurvedic texts do talk about both onions and garlic as therapeutic, but not as a regular part of a diet of one who wants to expand awareness, for whom a sattvic diet is better (sattva meaning transparent, sattvic foods promoting the transparency of the individual mind to the infinite consciouness): The Vedas do not speak favorably of garlic as a food, however. Foods in Ayurveda are classified as sattvic, rajasic, or tamasic. Sattvic foods traditionally nourish and support health and promote a clear, refined state of mind. Rajasic foods have an unsettling influence, and tamasic foods have a dulling influence. Both garlic and onions, as well as strong spices, are considered rajasic and should be avoided by people desiring a harmonious mind-body experience. http://tinyurl.com/yu7zfm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Lies, was Monism
My goodness, Vaj, who says anything like this?? Who does Wilber think he's quoting here, I wonder? And how odd to refer to the quotes as quantum lies. Was that Wilber's terminology, or yours? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they [believers in quantum physics being related to pure consciousness, spirit, etc.] try to take something like the quantum vacuum potential or some quantum level of reality that seems to be unmanifest and they want to say that's spirit, that's Brahman, that's Tao and it gives rise to this manifest world over here. And they want to say that as a concrete actual reality, in other words there really is this thing over here that gives rise to this material electron over here. Now already you have a dualistic spirit! You just fundamentally messed it up right there. Actual non-dual spirit is the suchness of everything that's arising. It doesn't cause anything to do anything. So it's the actual is- ness, the suchness, the emptiness that every single thing-- anywhere in the kosmos--is simultaneously. So pure emptiness leaves everything exactly as it finds it. It doesn't push or pull anything because it's not separate from anything. Ken Wilber, Does Physics Prove God? On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Vaj wrote: Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the space element). And akasha being the so-called fifth element is already within the other elements, in fact it's what they have in common. But it is also the first (relative value) to separate from the void. On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote: -No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul: only politely intrigued'' by TM
Front page of Thursday's WSJ: Gurus Transcend Party Politics Candidates Meet and Greet Fairfield's Meditators; Yogic Flyers Gather Tonight By CHRISTOPHER COOPER January 3, 2008; Page A1 FAIRFIELD, Iowa -- In the run-up to today's caucuses in Iowa, candidates have had to scrutinize the issues that move voters here. In this town, many care less about immigration than meditation. Are you familiar with Transcendental Meditation? Craig Berg, a bearded man in a faded parka, said as he buttonholed Republican candidate Fred Thompson during a recent campaign stop here. Candidates typically arrive here prepared for that question. The campaign of Democratic Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware has let it be known here that his former chief of staff is an adherent of Transcendental Meditation. During an outdoor rally here last summer, Sen. Barack Obama turned his podium east out of respect for the Transcendental Meditation view that east is the natural direction of energy flow. Iowa is widely perceived as a homogenous state of meat-eating corn- growing white Protestants. But exceptions to the American Gothic stereotype abound, from the sushi halls of Iowa City and grape trellises of the Amana Colonies to the ultra-orthodox Jews from Brooklyn who run a kosher slaughterhouse in Postville. Here in Fairfield, about 1,700 residents gather each afternoon in a pair of gold domes for a session of group meditation known as Yogic Flying. Ahead of today's Iowa caucus, in which even a few dozen votes could tilt the race in many voting precincts, candidates have been making special pitches to demographics as small and eccentric as Fairfield's Transcendental Meditation community. Of this hamlet's 10,000 residents, barely a third of them are transcendental devotees. But their political influence is outsized. For the past six years the town has chosen as its mayor a Transcendental Meditation devotee named Ed Malloy. And for 12 years ending in 2004, Fairfield was home to a peace party, called the Natural Law Party, which hoped to elect a Transcendental Meditation practitioner as president. Fairfield was a typical Iowa farming community until 1973, when the Maharishi University of Management purchased the bankrupt and discredited Parsons College, once dubbed FlunkOut U by a national magazine. Some locals regarded with skepticism the construction of two gold domes wherein Maharishi followers gathered daily for mass meditations. Natives lived uneasily with the outsiders, dubbing them Rus (pronounced rooz) -- a shorthand for Gurus.'' But the election of Mr. Malloy, a silver-haired and personable oil broker transplanted from Long Island, helped ease those tensions. Also helpful was that the Maharishi high school began turning out scores of national merit scholars who played a role in turning Fairfield into Silicorn Valley, as it became known around here, home to more than 40 software development and telecom companies. For politicians, a challenge here is to respect the community's faith in Yogic Flying, or mass meditation. Derived from a combination of quantum physics and the proven benefits of meditation, Yogic Flying occurs each afternoon at 5 p.m. when about 1,700 adherents gather in the gold domes. Supporters say the number 1,700 roughly represents 1% of the nation's population divided by its square root. Supporters believe that when meditation is performed in groups, it confers benefits not only to its individual practitioners but to society at large. On Mr. Thompson's drive into town, neither the Quantum Mechanic service station nor Utopia trailer park alerted him to the challenges ahead. And he was initially caught off guard by Mr. Berg's reference to Transcendental Meditation. Recovering quickly, however, Mr. Thompson managed to name the founder of Transcendental Meditation -- Maharishi Mahesh -- and praise its benefits. Rested mind and body, huh? he said. I could have used that a year ago. Politically, Fairfield leans left. It belongs to the only county in Iowa that in 2004 placed deep-blue candidate Howard Dean atop the Democratic field, just ahead of Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, whose vow to create a federal Department of Peace resonated with voters here. Given those propensities, it's not surprising that barely a handful of supporters showed up to meet the bus of Republican hawk Mr. Thompson. But that doesn't mean Republicans aren't welcome here. The town square is host to several large billboards touting Republican pacifist Ron Paul, and many residents believe his Libertarian views will propel him to a win in this county in today's caucuses. Mayor Malloy and his wife even held a political open house last summer for Mr. Paul, prior to a large rally staged in the town. But Mr. Paul, perhaps stung by allegations that his campaign has already attracted its share of political eccentrics, is making no to- do of his popularity here. Mr. Paul's deputy campaign
[FairfieldLife] SS of the Day: yogasiddhis not to be gainsaid
saaMkhya-suutra V 128
Cardemaister's [sic!] transliteration:
yogasiddhayo 'pyauSadhaadisiddhivannaapalapaniiyaaH
Attemt at sandhi-vigraha:
yoga-siddhayaH; api; auSadha+aadi-siddhi_vat; na+apalapaniiyaaH
Ballantyne:
The height to which asceticism may elevate.
Aph. 128.* The superhuman powers2 of concentration, just like the
effects of drugs, c., are not to be gainsaid.
a. That is to say: by the example of the effects of drugs, c.,
even the superhuman powers of assuming atomic magnitude, c., which
result from concentration, and are adapted to the work of creation,
c., are established.
Card's vocabulary (based on CDSL):
yogasiddhi f. simultaneous accomplishment Jaim. ;
api is often used to express emphasis , in the sense of even ,
also , very ; e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , also another , something more ; %
{adyA7pi} , this very day , even now ; %{tathA7pi} , even thus ,
notwithstanding ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , even if , although ; %
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , although , nevertheless ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]@api} ,
never at any time: sometimes in the sense of but , only , at least
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , only a moment.
auSadha mf(%{I})n. (fr. %{oSadhi}) , consisting of herbs S3Br. vii ;
(%{I}) f. N. of Da1ksha1yan2i1 MatsyaP. ; (%{am}) n. herbs
collectively , a herb S3Br. AitBr. Ka1tyS3r. c. ; herbs used in
medicine , simples , a medicament , drug , medicine in general Mn.
MBh. Ragh. c. ; a mineral W. ; a vessel for herbs.
Adi 1 m. beginning , commencement ; a firstling , first-fruits ;
***ifc [= at the end of a compound word, or stuff -- card].
beginning with , et caetera , and so on (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
the gods beginning with Indra i.e. Indra c. ;
na 2 ind. not , no , nor , neither
apalap to explain away , to deny , conceal: Caus. A1. %{-lapayate} ,
to outwit Bhat2t2.
[FairfieldLife] Juno
Anyone else seen it? I saw it today and it's pretty much the best movie I've seen in the past 12 months (save for Knocked up). Highly recommended; perhaps the best dialogue and screenplay I've seen in a long time. It will make an instant star out of the girl who plays Juno.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip Doug doesn't suck energy. He glows and radiates happiness and friendliness, Hmm, wonder why he radiates mostly unpleasant cynicism in his posts here? It's those rosy glasses you see the world through that gives you that impression.
[FairfieldLife] Nineteenten: no hopping!
I live in a house built in 1910: http://tinyurl.com/yss2oa My flat(?), similar to the one above, is in the 3rd floor. (Extremely bad vaastu, or whatever, I assume. Some people think the church is beautiful, though. Well, er...) I used to play electronic drums, but the German lady upstairs got enough of the noise, so I stopped doing that. So, it's rather understandable I can't do YF without annoying the people downstairs. Thus, I decided to try doing only the first half of the flying suutra. Do you think that can cause some kind of imbalance? It felt very good. Made me feel hungry in a nice way, instead of a bit aching stomach, but now, after less than an hour, my ears started to ache somewhat.
