[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Active Volcano under ice Leigh Dayton, Science writer | January 22, 2008 AN active volcano has been found under Antarctica's rapidly melting western ice sheet. Although it has not erupted for more than 2000 years, heat from the geologically active Hudson Mountains Subglacial Volcano helps explain why nearby Pine Island Glacier shrinks by more than a kilometre every year, British scientists claim. The discovery follows reports last week that Antarctica's ice cap is melting faster than previously believed. According to those findings, the greatest loss was from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the Antarctic Peninsula. Together, they lost nearly 200billion tonnes of ice in 2006 alone. Glaciologists Hugh Corr and David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge claim the discovery of the first known subglacial volcanic eruption promises to improve predictions of future sea- level rise caused by the melting of the WAIS. We believe this was the biggest eruption in Antarctica during the last 10,000 years, Dr Corr said. It blew a substantial hole in the ice sheet and generated a plume of ash and gas that rose around 12km. The team identified a large layer of volcanic ash in the ice. Additional evidence for the eruption came from ice cores collected across the continent. Writing in Nature Geoscience, Dr Corr and Dr Vaughan suggested the increased heat from the eruption, which they dated to 325BC, led to melting of the surrounding and overlying ice which, in turn, increased the flow rate of nearby glaciers. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/01/21/antarctica- volcano.html However, he adds, the heat from the Hudson Mountains subglacial volcano would probably not affect neighbouring glaciers. It cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2 mm per year to sea-level rise, Vaughan said. This wider change most probably has its origin in warming ocean waters. Alex: aren't you HAPPY that the melting glaciers are the result of a volcanoe? If true, that would mean that global warming is NOT man- made and that we will NOT all die a horrible death like Al Gore wants us to believe. Aren't you excited about the possibility that the concept of man-made catastrophic global warming is all bunk?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
In a message dated 1/23/08 9:54:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2 mm per year to sea-level rise, Oh my God! Break out the snorkles! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warnings to avoid destabilizing one's innocence certainly lay bare the fallacy of theory that the prime mover of relative events on a macro scale are due to the collective consciousness of group program generated by such fragile minds. This is Shakespearian. \ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. Benny, Mensa surely must have a discussion group. You may find them closer to your level. We are working on a simpleton filter, but it is not ready yet. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Ben And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Curtis Equal is another option mate. Yea, the only thing worse than being preached to, is having to prop someone up who keeps saying they're sorry. I think Ben is going to have a hard time relating like an equal. I think he loves the pedestal, and this other mea culpa theme will play out shortly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well. I don't quite get your problem with this becoming a religion. Look at the structure. To paraphrase the words of a founding father of the United States of America, we're giving you a theocracy, Madam, if you can keep it. That's right. He erected a freakin theocracy. What do you expect a theocracy to do, declare that God is dead? For crying out loud.
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex: aren't you HAPPY that the melting glaciers are the result of a volcanoe? If true, that would mean that global warming is NOT man- made and that we will NOT all die a horrible death like Al Gore wants us to believe. Aren't you excited about the possibility that the concept of man-made catastrophic global warming is all bunk? Personally, I have no position on global warming, one way or the other. It just struck me that you were posting this story as some kind of blanket debunking of global warming, when a quick check of Google news shows that this story is about a localized phenomenon that does not explain glacial melting elsewhere. So, I posted that snippet for balance and accuracy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Good morning, Steve. lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Curtis Equal is another option mate. Yea, the only thing worse than being preached to, is having to prop someone up who keeps saying they're sorry. I think Ben is going to have a hard time relating like an equal. I think he loves the pedestal, and this other mea culpa theme will play out shortly. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Hey Ben, Good morning to you. I hope you have a fine day. I'm getting ready to go off to work now. Maybe we'll chat during the day, or perhaps at the end of the day. Enjoy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning, Steve. lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Curtis Equal is another option mate. Yea, the only thing worse than being preached to, is having to prop someone up who keeps saying they're sorry. I think Ben is going to have a hard time relating like an equal. I think he loves the pedestal, and this other mea culpa theme will play out shortly. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
I agree with Curtis here. Use the term equal. You're with follow spiritual wayfarers here. We like to hear about your experiences, your insights, your understandings, but when its packaged as an implicit teaching to the unevolved masses, oy vay! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Equal is another option mate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Peter. I must say, I'm very glad to have finally come to realize that the situation is as you've described, though it took me long enough, so that I need persist in posting things that in this forum are clearly foolish. And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. -- Ben Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. === message truncated === Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
I think you're misquoting Benjamin Franklin who said, A republic, if you can
keep it.
- Original Message
From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:29:42 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now,
don't ya
think? No more need to pretend...
The religion of Guru Devism is born.
It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management
of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over
have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to
solidify the religious nature of the Movement.
This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from
time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or
philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so
by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And
now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers.
They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give
them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the
TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may
be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his
hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess
that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on
our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc.
Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!,
we're prostrating once a day for the next month.
Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and
bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it...
Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had
such belly laughs in years.
But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that
Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the
East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world?
This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide
eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the
time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the
Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always
believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. Dr. BM doesn't
just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read
which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title
he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more
sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well.
I don't quite get your problem with this becoming a religion. Look at
the structure. To paraphrase the words of a founding father of the
United States of America, we're giving you a theocracy, Madam, if you
can keep it. That's right. He erected a freakin theocracy. What
do you expect a theocracy to do, declare that God is dead? For crying
out loud.
!--
#ygrp-mkp{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;}
#ygrp-mkp hr{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
#ygrp-mkp #hd{
color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;}
#ygrp-mkp #ads{
margin-bottom:10px;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad{
padding:0 0;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a{
color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}
--
!--
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
font-family:Arial;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
--
!--
#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean,
sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}
#ygrp-text{
font-family:Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p{
margin:0 0 1em 0;}
#ygrp-tpmsgs{
font-family:Arial;
clear:both;}
#ygrp-vitnav{
padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;}
#ygrp-vitnav a{
padding:0 1px;}
#ygrp-actbar{
clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;}
#ygrp-actbar .left{
float:left;white-space:nowrap;}
.bld{font-weight:bold;}
#ygrp-grft{
font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
#ygrp-ft{
font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666;
padding:5px 0;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
padding-bottom:10px;}
#ygrp-vital{
background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
#ygrp-vital #vithd{
font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;}
#ygrp-vital ul{
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of MUM students on campus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the 23jAN MUM Review: There are two dining halls on the second floor of the Student Center and a café on the first floor. The main dining room, for students and faculty, is located on the south end and seats 360, while the smaller north dining hall, for staff, seats 140. In between is a banquet room, with space for 110. Dining in the new facility will begin at dinner on February 1. http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/ And don't forget the CPs who are counted as students. If these MIU/MUM college credits I've gotten on courses were actually useful, I could have graduated college a couple more times already.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti b7gilberti@ wrote: And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. Benny, Mensa surely must have a discussion group. You may find them closer to your level. We are working on a simpleton filter, but it is not ready yet. Us members of Densa also have a discussion group.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're misquoting Benjamin Franklin who said, A republic, if you can keep it. I knew the quote and who spoke it. But I went to the court house and purchased a poetic license. Surely I can use it here?
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mainstream20016@ wrote: Warnings to avoid destabilizing one's innocence certainly lay bare the fallacy of theory that the prime mover of relative events on a macro scale are due to the collective consciousness of group program generated by such fragile minds. This is Shakespearian. How thoughtful. As a native Louisianian, I'm more frequently labeled 'BritneySpearian'. \ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
I'm all for poetic license and I agree that great artists steal and may modify
the stolen item any way they like as per that same license. But you were
passing this off as a factual statement in support of something. That's a
little different, don't you think?
By the way, the court house is prolly the least likely place to issue poetic
licenses; moreover, that kind of license is taken, not purchased.
- Original Message
From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:55:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I think you're misquoting Benjamin Franklin who said, A republic,
if you can keep it.
I knew the quote and who spoke it. But I went to the court house and
purchased a poetic license. Surely I can use it here?
!--
#ygrp-mkp{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;}
#ygrp-mkp hr{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
#ygrp-mkp #hd{
color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;}
#ygrp-mkp #ads{
margin-bottom:10px;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad{
padding:0 0;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a{
color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}
--
!--
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
font-family:Arial;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
--
!--
#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean,
sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}
#ygrp-text{
font-family:Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p{
margin:0 0 1em 0;}
#ygrp-tpmsgs{
font-family:Arial;
clear:both;}
#ygrp-vitnav{
padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;}
#ygrp-vitnav a{
padding:0 1px;}
#ygrp-actbar{
clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;}
#ygrp-actbar .left{
float:left;white-space:nowrap;}
.bld{font-weight:bold;}
#ygrp-grft{
font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
#ygrp-ft{
font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666;
padding:5px 0;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
padding-bottom:10px;}
#ygrp-vital{
background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
#ygrp-vital #vithd{
font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;}
#ygrp-vital ul{
padding:0;margin:2px 0;}
#ygrp-vital ul li{
list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;}
#ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
font-weight:bold;}
#ygrp-vital a{
text-decoration:none;}
#ygrp-vital a:hover{
text-decoration:underline;}
#ygrp-sponsor #hd{
color:#999;font-size:77%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov{
padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #nc{
background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
padding:8px 0;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
text-decoration:none;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
text-decoration:underline;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
margin:0;}
o{font-size:0;}
.MsoNormal{
margin:0 0 0 0;}
#ygrp-text tt{
font-size:120%;}
blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;}
.replbq{margin:4;}
--
Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Even more succinctly in these few words,...offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm In other words, transcend our illusory individual nature. The rest is an intro lecture for the few fortunate souls that may stumble across this with open hearts and minds. If this is what it takes to continue to make the TM technique available in the world, what is there to take issue with? Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peacethe Tower of Invincibility in every nationbliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the global ceremony. * Guru Purnima is the day in the Vedic Calendar which honours the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, traditionally celebrated each year on the full moon in July. ** Maharishi's Master, Shri Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmanand Saraswati, Jagatguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas *** Maharishi has explained that Purusha means the Self, the quality of infinite silence of the Unified Field of Natural Law. Purusha also refers to members of the Maharishi Purusha Programmewhich was designed by Maharishi for men who wish to dedicate themselves fulltime to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. This is accomplished through the extended group practice of the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme, including Yogic Flying, and activity dedicated to the fulfilment of the many programmes of Maharishi's worldwide organizations. Copyright © 2008 Global Good News(sm) Service Global Good News comment: For information about Maharishi's seven-point programme to create a healthy, happy, prosperous society, and a peaceful world, please visit: Global Financial Capital of New York. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Read the
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev
Guru Dev was known for his self-sufficiency and would not accept donations from anyone, whether rich or poor. In fact, a sign was erected at his ashram which said, Worthy of Worship, Infinitely Bestowed, The Universal Guru Shankaracharya Jyotirmath, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati Maharaj prohibits any offerings of wealth. Among the sages of India, the concept of self-sufficiency has a special meaning. First, it means one who is filled with love of the Divine and beyond personal human relationships. Second, it means one who is beyond personal attachments and cannot be swayed from right action. And third, it means one who lives without any earthly means of support. Often people tried to curry favor with Guru Dev by offering money or other valuable goods, but he maintained his independence and never accepted gifts. On one occasion, a merchant confided to Guru Dev that he was involved in a legal problem and was being sued. Guru Dev listened to his story without making any comment. During the next few days, the law suit was settled in the man's favor. Assuming that Guru Dev had mysteriously helped in some way, he returned to the ashram bearing an offering of gold coins. When Guru Dev learned of the offering, he said to the man, You offer me money but you don't offer it to those poor who ask you for it. To those who need it, you offer nothing. You offer it to me? Do I have a son or daughter I need to marry off? Take the money and go. Give it to those who need it. If you want to give me something, give me your greed, your lusts, your weaknesses. That is what you really hold dear above all else. Give me everything that stands between you and God. As Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath, Guru Dev took on the responsibility of restoring the Shankaracharya tradition throughout Northern India. This was a huge task involving many tours as well as the acquisition of property and reconstruction of temples and monasteries, with costs running into the millions of rupees. Several times large fund raising campaigns were planned but Guru Dev always vetoed these proposals. In mysterious ways, sufficient resources always appeared, when and as needed, to accomplish the projects at hand. The question foremost on everyone's mind, How does Guru Dev accomplish this? He seems to have no access to money and as a Dandi Swami, he doesn't even touch money. How can a person who has been a renunciate from the age of 9 and who never accepts donations, arrange for these expensive transactions? When pressed for an answer, Guru Dev simply said, No human being has been involved in these things. When begged by his followers to elaborate, he went on to say, During the time of the Mahabharat, when the Kauravas unabashedly tried to strip Draupadi naked, wherefrom did come yard upon yard of the sari she was wearing?? And it was of the same color and pattern, thousands of yards. Not a different color. Not a different pattern. Same color and pattern, yard upon yard. When God gives, He gives all that is required: the whole thing〓the real thing. What could happen at the time of the Mahabharat, can take place now. God has not changed. He is ever the same. On at least one occasion, Guru Dev spoke openly about his ability for attracting resources. It was in December 1952, that Guru Dev was visited by then President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad. When making a point about the master/disciple relationship, Guru Dev related one of his own experiences as a disciple of Swami Krishnanand. When I first met Guruji in Uttar-Kashi, my first request was, 'Please give me that knowledge which will make me self sufficient so that I do not have to beg anything from anyone.' It is my Guru's grace that to this day I have never had to stretch my hands before anyone. Thus, by the grace of his guru, he fulfilled the promise he had made to his mother many years earlier when he left home. from: http://www.srigurudev.net/srigurudev/gurudev/biography.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM
[FairfieldLife] From a friend on Purusha in India
Dear +++ Thanks for forwarding the message from Bevan. If you have been following the events around Jan 12th, you'll know a lot of changes are taking place now. We finally got our new satellite dish up to watch the Jan. 12th broadcasts. Everyone listened very intently as Maharishi announced that he is retiring, and seemingly has put everything in place for Maha Raja Nader Ram, his Rajas, and the 12 Ministers to take over all aspects of the Movement's guidance and administration. Maharishi has hinted at this several times of over the past years, but there was a real sense of finality about it this time. The underlying point of it all is that he has been telling us all to be Self-Sufficient and not rely on him so much anymore. We have the knowledge, we know what to do, and we have our programme. So now only we have to hold fast to it. As you may have heard, this is all happening now because it seems Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn. Maharishi seems to have been in the hospital for some days during silence. People in Vlodrop got wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the body. When they heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in Vlodrop and listening to the celebration, it was a very emotional time for everyone. The Jan 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in Silence was, I suppose, designed to reassure people in the field. And Raja John's latest message that Maharishi is retiring out of necessity was very telling. So we shall see what the year ahead brings us. It seems like much of the day to day running of the Movement will be done by others now. Maharishi just said a few days ago that he would withdraw into silence to work on final commentaries of the Vedas. It will probably be a very significant year for the TM Movement and all of us. Jai Guru Dev No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Thank you, Peter. I'm a bit embarrassed to say that I've lost the website link for learning that focusing technique, if you could send it to me again I'd be grateful. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Curtis here. Use the term equal. You're with follow spiritual wayfarers here. We like to hear about your experiences, your insights, your understandings, but when its packaged as an implicit teaching to the unevolved masses, oy vay! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Equal is another option mate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Peter. I must say, I'm very glad to have finally come to realize that the situation is as you've described, though it took me long enough, so that I need persist in posting things that in this forum are clearly foolish. And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. -- Ben Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. === message truncated === __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
I'll look forward to it, Steve. Wishing you an easy day at work. lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey Ben, Good morning to you. I hope you have a fine day. I'm getting ready to go off to work now. Maybe we'll chat during the day, or perhaps at the end of the day. Enjoy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning, Steve. lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Curtis Equal is another option mate. Yea, the only thing worse than being preached to, is having to prop someone up who keeps saying they're sorry. I think Ben is going to have a hard time relating like an equal. I think he loves the pedestal, and this other mea culpa theme will play out shortly. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Well let's see. My claim that you're smarter would compel me to suppose that you know better, and hence would be right about me being equal. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Equal is another option mate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Peter. I must say, I'm very glad to have finally come to realize that the situation is as you've described, though it took me long enough, so that I need persist in posting things that in this forum are clearly foolish. And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. -- Ben Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 935 lies
Angela Mailander wrote: I guess they forgot to add the ones about 9/11. Yeah, I guess they forgot. And you forgot to point out that anything that George Soros touches needs to be read with skepticism, particularly when it involves the Bush administration and the Iraq war. Read more: 'The Path To War Or More George Soros?' http://tinyurl.com/ytc234 Quotes reproduce statements made by Democratic leaders about Saddam Hussien's acquisitions or possession of weapons of mass sdestruction: Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors The recent assignment of the domestic U.S. Rajas to foreign countries has set the stage for a new face of the TMO in the U.S. Although Hagelin has relied on financial donations from the Rajas in the past, the futility of the TMO's profile of Rajas representing the TMO will prevent the TMO from regaining relevancy. Hagelin is assembling a national team of non-Raja leaders to run the TMO in the U.S. As the Rajas are beginning their foreign assignments (to be administered from Vlodrop - what is this, day 60-something of an indefinite period of the gathering of Rajas there ?), the stage is set for a fresh face of the TMO in the U.S. With the Latin American TMO growing rapidly, MUM will likely see a huge increase in enrollment from those countries. Supposedly, someone has already agreed to finance a large MUM expansion. With a much larger MUM student body, and a Raja-less face of the TMO in the U.S., Hagelin might lead the TMO in the U.S. in the direction of relevancy. Hagelin probably negotiated the above conditions before agreeing to wear the Raja uniform in Vlodrop. Hopefully, he will never wear it in the U.S., lest he risk losing the opportunity for a new face of the TMO. For this scenario to play out, all references to and photos of rajas would have to be removed from all TMO websites. As it is now, it won’t take long for a school administrator or prospective meditator or MUM student to do a little Internet research and come up with some pretty weird stuff. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM
[FairfieldLife] Whachatink Lurk? (Natural morality? Nope, but yeah.)
Lurk, Should I get into it yet again with Curtis? I'm using you as my rantometer. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't trying to tease you Edg, I was just making a joke. I am not against making my character here the fall guy for a laugh. Yet, the rule of no adultery is a widely observed moral amongst most species, with some exceptions of course. Multiple partners is very common in nature, especially primate cultures. On purely genetic terms it is an advantage. Recent genetic testing has revealed a much higher percent of kids not fathered by their Dads then was previously thought. Monkeys fool around, that is a fact beyond our opinion about how things should be. So, Curtis, you need to explain your rules -- even if your rule is no rules, and then we'll see if we can imagine an entire culture running with it and see how that might feel. My point was just that when it comes to making rules for society, nobody is coming in with a complete playbook from the Lord. I am a fan of secular voting systems as we have in the US to sort out people's different notions into something we can all live with. As far as adultery goes...by some points of view, you have committed adultery if you are married to a woman who has married before and whose husband is alive. A woman cannot break what God has joined. So before we start with our various lines we draw, lets make sure we acknowledge that the term is not so simple as it might first appear. If a man has sex with his wife before he got married, then he married a whore in many parts of the world. So can you cheat on a whore? When it comes to adults doing consensual things, I put that in the none of my business camp. To express an opinion about a man or woman who decides to stray in their marriage seems like the worst busybody nonsense. The state has laws to protect the kids and I am fine with that. But the state has no business in anyone else's bedroom period. Adultery laws are antiquated nonsense. This is a personal choice that is none of anyone else's business. this includes you Edg. People make their choices and they get their results. So how do I personally draw the line? Fidelity is a currency in a relationship that you use to purchase intimacy. It is very valuable as is what you are purchasing. This rule applies to my life and my partner's only. It is a choice I have made from my experiences in relationships. I don't believe that one size fits all. It just suits how I run my life for the maximum feeling of connection. My priorities are not everyone else's but that is how I roll. (in the hay and otherwise) but if you, Curtis, want to merely joke about this issue and to have a sophomoric attitude about it and cut farts in the back of the sex-ed class, then we should agree to disagree and go our separate ways Any attempt to squelch humor on a board like this is an immoral act. Trying to use a person's joke as a channel for judgmental anger shows a lack of understanding of the value of humor to express more of a person's feelings than preaching does. I wrote a long post seriously and tacked on a joke at the end. It's my dharma. I'll refrain, mostly, from tiring my fingers by lashing your immorality with my Keystrokes of Doom. Hey some people actually are lashed Edg so your joke is highly offensive to me on their behalf. You had better be real clear about when and where you think it is appropriate to lash another human being as they do in many countries and not just make some sophomoric joke about a topic that I take very, very ,very, very, seriously. People die from lashing Edg, they dieee! Fun huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Curtis, It's all relative. Nature builds into the personalities of the species all sorts of instincts that are repugnant. Many animals will eat their kids from time to time. I saw a hippo kill his baby brother the other day -- just to assert his secondary status in the herd -- he wasn't even the herd's head honcho. Spider ladies eat their hubbies. I saw two lions kill an injured lioness just cuz. Most animals kill to eat, and most animals will kill to survive, and some species even build in death as a given -- such as in the case of the birds that lay two eggs knowing the first born will kill the second born. And disturbingly, the lauded big-brainers kill and maraud: great apes are known to kill and eat other apes, and chimps wage war against other troops of chimps. Dolphins will kidnap a female and hold her hostage for sex. I saw an elephant bull kill a female in a zoo -- again, just cuz. And monkeys do adultery by the ton. So human morality is not built into most species, and erp, probably not even the human species. Yet, the rule
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
curtisdeltablues wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. Dig up a copy of Monkey on a Stick to get a road map of how this is going to go down. :) http://www.amazon.com/Monkey-Stick-John-Hubner/dp/0451401875
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: curtisdeltablues wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. Dig up a copy of Monkey on a Stick to get a road map of how this is going to go down. :) http://www.amazon.com/Monkey-Stick-John-Hubner/dp/0451401875 Excellent book! I read it when it came out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty obvious what's going on here. We have a group of guys doing what guys do, fight for social dominance. So they're currently going through a phase of having to prove themselves by by advocating more and more extreme ways of showing off their loyalty. Much like the Taleban in Afghanistan felt the need to blow up Buddhist statues to prove how muslim they were. It's a standard script so we can work out what's going to happen next. The next stage is to target people who don't engage in public displays of loyalty, they will be regarded as suspects, spies and dissidents. If people can earn loyalty points by snitching on their friends and neighbours they will. Maybe people who don't wear light cream suits will have their finger nails pulled out or something. Because no one depends on teaching to make a living, actually teaching people is irrelevant, what counts is how big your tower of invincibility (missile system, engine size, penis, replace according to circumstance) is, how many people are in your army of pundits/sidhas and how much good news you can make up. These are the chips in the game of social domination currently being played out in Vlodrop. All we can do is watch with horror or laughter. Of course the best way to show off one's appreciation of Maharishi's knowledge would be to drop the prices, allow lots of people to learn and allow ordinary teachers to teach. But hey we're not really interested in that, we want to show off how devoted we are by building towers, making a big show of emotion and best of all, executing dissidents. Well done. If this were Slashdot I'd mod you some points for insightful. You paint a scary picture but hey, for me it's a buffet I visit once every 7 years so just as I want a CNN channel that does not show mud slinging of whiny children or BREAKING NEWS: School Bus Accident, Details Unfolding since the phony respect each candidate paid one another during the Iowas caucuses has passed, I can turn my eye away from this guys in the Flash Gordon hats for another 7 years and see how things are then.
[FairfieldLife] somebody had sex with somebody at mum or Sex in general
Reminds me of the story of the women who had been married three times and was still at virgin. The first time she married an 80 ish multimillionaire who took one look at her body had a fatal heart attack and she inherited gazillions. The next guy she married was because he was so so handsome and he wanted her money and girls was just not his thingy. The third time she married a TM teacher who kept her up all night telling her how good it was going to be someday when she was enlightened. Tom
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I've hit you with this quote before. I'll hit you with it again. This fellow they've nominated claims he's the new Thomas Jefferson. Well, let me tell you something: I knew Thomas Jefferson. He was a friend of mine, and governor you're no Thomas Jefferson. --Ronald Reagan, Republican National Convention, 1992 I suspect that Maharishi /might/ have become awakened. But if you come from a hustler family and hustle as he did to keep close to Guru Dev, you're going to stay a hustler. Perhaps my experiences are not genuine and I've not seen what those states of consciousness are and I'll change so that no one recognizes me from my words or actions. Lord knows most people may not suspect what my previous handle here was and I notice a very strong absence of flack following up my posts. OTOH maybe I've had enough experiences to know that no matter how grand all becomes and no matter how much The Secret dissolves, I'm gonna be one randy, rowdy dude. Indeed the more grand and glorious things become the more freely the rowdiness and randiness can flow and the more it attracts the same. There's a certain sovereign feeling that you've been granted of sort of a cosmic diplomatic immunity. That actually makes you more of what you were because you don't have fear and because wherever you look there is you and you can attract even more of what you previously attracted. Thank me for the vast development of the heart and seeing God in everything. That and a strong ethical and moral sense appears vital to me to keep you from doing nasty things and getting away with them, at least during the transition. You might only act as Nature moves you, but Nature flows in the same vessel as before. It's one thing to spend your life/dharma being a beacon of inner light and start the whole thing as a child prodigy. It's another thing to work in a factory at some capacity and see the beacon of light pass by. And it's yet another thing to take all of this as a buffet with the agenda of facilitating your randy, rowdy life. Perhaps you're Shankaracharia material and therefore you become and exude that, perhaps when you attain a certain level of consciousness you become another person. This I doubt but I'm open to anything that comes because frankly so far this ride has been one of glory. I'm glory, glory all around, glory in my heart, I see the glory in your heart...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
Thanks, Rick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 30 Quotations attributed to Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati 'So long passion for attaining God is not firm you shall fly hither and thither, without knowing, like a kite.' 'Be a worldly man through body and wealth and contemplate Him (Paramatma) in your heart. Thus you shall shine in the world and attain summum bonum as well.' 'The God is Almighty. If you attain power through worshipping the Almighty, in accordance with scriptures, there would be nothing impossible in the world.' 'He alone is the Adored One who does not let any evil take place. He alone can make one free from all evils, for He alone is Almighty.' 'He is perfect in the entire creation. He saves those from every evil who depend wholeheartedly upon Him.' 'Keep in mind the instance of Prahlad. Wherever Prahlad was taken to he was saved by his Adored One. Hence make yourself immune from every evil by making Him your Adored One.' 'Lord Vishnu, Shankar, Devi, Surya and Ganesh, each of these five deities, are equally capable of doing good to their devotees. One should make one of them one's favourite and should visualize him pervading throughout the creation.' 'He alone is the best devotee who sees his Adored One everywhere. For the devotee of Vishnu the Lord is omnipresent. He should see Lord Vishnu even in the images of Shankar, Devi, Ganesh and Surya etc. Likewise a devotee of Shankar, Devi etc. should visualize his Adored One omnipresent.' 'If a worshipper of Devi does not see her in the images of Vishnu and Shankar etc. this would imply that he is doubting the omnipresence of his Adored One. Such a devotee who sees his Adored One partially remains imperfect.' 'He who causes strife and envy among different schools and philosophies is but an outcome of not seeing his Adored One omnipresent.' 'Only through karma worship and enlightenment, as put in the Vedas -- His Canons -- can one have welfare in this and other world.' 'Deeds done with right, propriety, and God-given wisdom are powerful. Laws of karma are to be learned from the Vedas and religious preachers.' 'The world has to undergo disquietitude, maladministration, and natural calamities when deeds forbidden in scriptures take place and the subjects are afflicted.' 'By not observing duty toward one's self one is afflicted by the advent of such internal enemies as lust, anger, greed, arrogance and ignorance etc.' 'Pure satwik diet develops mind and controls the senses. He who has won his senses there is nothing impossible in the world.' 'Progress of a nation is possible only by righteous persons possessing God-given endowments.' 'The divine strength is to be accomplished to make a nation powerful. Subtle divine authority is the regulator of the concrete universe. Without its help neither can a nation become powerful nor peace and prosperity can be felt.' 'One should always keep one's glory shining and should elevate one's thought and make it generous in accordance with the scriptures. One should see one's Adored One omnipresent and perfect. The devotee remains incomplete if he sees his Adored One in unentirety with sectarian view.' 'One should be happy when seeing reverence evoking feeling in gurus, compassion toward afflicted and rise of others and having mutual goodwill one should devote oneself whole-heartedly toward universal welfare by being sincere to one's self.' 'If you devote yourself contemplating, worshipping and singing in praise of your Adored One you ought to feel something or other and your desire ought to be more steady. If it is not so, be sure your devotion is not of right kind.' 'There are classes of devotion, too. As the syllabi of pupils in schools become subtle gradually, likewise the path of devotion unto the ultimate end becomes continuously subtler.' 'As the devotee makes progress in devotion [the] need of subtler devices increases and a veteran guru alone can show the real path. If fortunately one gets a noble guru well versed in the Vedas and having deep knowledge of Brahmanand receives his cooperation till [the] end, [then] only one guru makes one's life meaningful. Otherwise so long [as] the devotee does not attain God he should gradually go in the protection of great gurus. One must revere previous gurus, but if they are not helping in spiritual attainment [then] wasting life by depending upon them out of hesitation is a grave error.' 'Perceiving omnipresence of the Adored One alone can eliminate the discord of all opposing feelings. This very thing is the firm basis of permanent formation. And this also is the means of permanent peace in this world and the other.' 'Pleasure and pain are results of one's own deeds. One
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
Reminds me of the great patriarch Subhuti in the Chinese epic, Journey to the West. It is said of him, Having found his own nature, he let it run free. - Original Message From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:43:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I've hit you with this quote before. I'll hit you with it again. This fellow they've nominated claims he's the new Thomas Jefferson. Well, let me tell you something: I knew Thomas Jefferson. He was a friend of mine, and governor…you' re no Thomas Jefferson. --Ronald Reagan, Republican National Convention, 1992 I suspect that Maharishi /might/ have become awakened. But if you come from a hustler family and hustle as he did to keep close to Guru Dev, you're going to stay a hustler. Perhaps my experiences are not genuine and I've not seen what those states of consciousness are and I'll change so that no one recognizes me from my words or actions. Lord knows most people may not suspect what my previous handle here was and I notice a very strong absence of flack following up my posts. OTOH maybe I've had enough experiences to know that no matter how grand all becomes and no matter how much The Secret dissolves, I'm gonna be one randy, rowdy dude. Indeed the more grand and glorious things become the more freely the rowdiness and randiness can flow and the more it attracts the same. There's a certain sovereign feeling that you've been granted of sort of a cosmic diplomatic immunity. That actually makes you more of what you were because you don't have fear and because wherever you look there is you and you can attract even more of what you previously attracted. Thank me for the vast development of the heart and seeing God in everything. That and a strong ethical and moral sense appears vital to me to keep you from doing nasty things and getting away with them, at least during the transition. You might only act as Nature moves you, but Nature flows in the same vessel as before. It's one thing to spend your life/dharma being a beacon of inner light and start the whole thing as a child prodigy. It's another thing to work in a factory at some capacity and see the beacon of light pass by. And it's yet another thing to take all of this as a buffet with the agenda of facilitating your randy, rowdy life. Perhaps you're Shankaracharia material and therefore you become and exude that, perhaps when you attain a certain level of consciousness you become another person. This I doubt but I'm open to anything that comes because frankly so far this ride has been one of glory. I'm glory, glory all around, glory in my heart, I see the glory in your heart... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Rick, I've hit you with this quote before. I'll hit you with it again. This fellow they've nominated claims he's the new Thomas Jefferson. Well, let me tell you something: I knew Thomas Jefferson. He was a friend of mine, and governor you're no Thomas Jefferson. --Ronald Reagan, Republican National Convention, 1992 I suspect that Maharishi /might/ have become awakened. But if you come from a hustler family and hustle as he did to keep close to Guru Dev, you're going to stay a hustler. Perhaps my experiences are not genuine and I've not seen what those states of consciousness are and I'll change so that no one recognizes me from my words or actions. Lord knows most people may not suspect what my previous handle here was and I notice a very strong absence of flack following up my posts. OTOH maybe I've had enough experiences to know that no matter how grand all becomes and no matter how much The Secret dissolves, I'm gonna be one randy, rowdy dude. Indeed the more grand and glorious things become the more freely the rowdiness and randiness can flow and the more it attracts the same. There's a certain sovereign feeling that you've been granted of sort of a cosmic diplomatic immunity. That actually makes you more of what you were because you don't have fear and because wherever you look there is you and you can attract even more of what you previously attracted. Thank me for the vast development of the heart and seeing God in everything. That and a strong ethical and moral sense appears vital to me to keep you from doing nasty things and getting away with them, at least during the transition. You might only act as Nature moves you, but Nature flows in the same vessel as before. It's one thing to spend your life/dharma being a beacon of inner light and start the whole thing as a child prodigy. It's another thing to work in a factory at some capacity and see the beacon of light pass by. And it's yet another thing to take all of this as a buffet with the agenda of facilitating your randy, rowdy life. Perhaps you're Shankaracharia material and therefore you become and exude that, perhaps when you attain a certain level of consciousness you become another person. This I doubt but I'm open to anything that comes because frankly so far this ride has been one of glory. I'm glory, glory all around, glory in my heart, I see the glory in your heart... but not in everyones' heart, eh? Open your eyes, take a good look around. You are the only one here.
[FairfieldLife] My Experience with Creativity
I spent all last night trying to write something that would clarify what creativity was. But I ended up deleting the whole thing. It was completely worthless. I made the mistake of figuring it out instead of experiencing it. Thats as ridiculous as figuring out what a watermelon tastes like instead of tasting it. How would you like to order some watermelon and instead of bringing some, the waiter comes over and gives you speech about how a watermelon tastes. Well Ive been doing the same thing. Magnificent descriptions that mistake description for experience. But eating watermelon is all that matters, isnt it. Speeches about it are ridiculous. So, youve read my eloquent speeches about creativity. And they were ridiculous. One of my friends read them and said, Ben, this is brilliant, but its crap. Its book learning instead of direct experience. Hes right. Ideas about creativity dont matter. All that matters is the experience. And that doesnt take eloquence or anything sophisticated. Everyone thinks creative people must be sophisticated. Nope. Any birdbrain could do it. Its childishly simple. Volumes written about it by learned watermelon orators only obscure and confuse it. It all boils down to this: Be both soft and strong. Soft and strong. That simple. Its just as easy for me to be soft as soft can be, as it is or me to be as strong as strong can be. I can be absolutely determined and immoveable just as easily as I can dump all my intentions and submit to someone elses lead. Im soft when soft makes sense and strong when strength is needed. When Im wrong Im happy to admit it; when Im right I cant be budged. Thats what androgyny is like. Thats the way you have to be if you want to be creative. Theres no way you can be creative unless you can be just as easily soft as you can be just as easily strong. Dont take my word for it. Prove it to yourself. Practice being both soft and strong and notice what happens. Youll then know from your own direct experience. Anything else is just a watermelon lecture. Simply put, creativity occurs when intention opens up to the Divine. For me that's not holiness. Its the common sense that presumes God exists, simply because he might. And that sets me up to be open to whatever Divine action might be in the offing. So Id be pacing about, intending to create a lecture, and I'm trusting that God will help, because its just stupid not to. I assert my intention by intending to write, and Im submissive to however God might help. And this is all there is to being creative. Being soft and strong, intending and accepting. Everything arises from the intimate meeting of intention and acceptance, action and surrender, yin and yang. The flavor cannot exist without the meeting of the fruit and the mouth; the color cannot exist without the meeting of the rainbow and the eye. In order to taste one must take a bite, in order to hear one must listen, to see one must look. We enter and are entered, the intimate weaving of the two bringing forth a third quality, which then takes form as insight, intuition, realization, revelation, healing, peace, illumination, wonder, awe . . . or simply the sweet enjoyment of being. Thanks so much for listening. Much Love, Ben - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Alex: aren't you HAPPY that the melting glaciers are the result of a volcanoe? If true, that would mean that global warming is NOT man- made and that we will NOT all die a horrible death like Al Gore wants us to believe. Aren't you excited about the possibility that the concept of man- made catastrophic global warming is all bunk? Personally, I have no position on global warming, one way or the other. It just struck me that you were posting this story as some kind of blanket debunking of global warming, when a quick check of Google news shows that this story is about a localized phenomenon that does not explain glacial melting elsewhere. So, I posted that snippet for balance and accuracy. I find that strange, Alex, and, yes, hard to believe. We have been told by Al Gore that millions and millions will die if catastrophic man-made global warming continues. And you have no position on it one way or the other? How can you be neutral on something that potentially can devastate mankind? At the very least I would think that you would feel at least a LITTLE relieved that there is information that holds out hope that the dire warnings are wrong. But you're neutral and you don't care. Wow.
[FairfieldLife] Buddhist monks enjoy Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Programme
Buddhist monks enjoy Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Programme by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 24 January 2008 Reverend Koji Oshima, a Buddhist monk from Japan, has reported outstanding achievements from Sri Lanka and Thailand, where thousands of Buddhist monks have learned Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Programme. Reverend Oshima commenced his great work after responding to a call from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, requesting monks from Japan to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the Buddhist communities of Sri Lanka, Thailand, and Korea. Shizuo Suzuki, National Director of the Global Country of World Peace in Japan, summarized Reverend Oshima's achievements with a beautiful commentary and slide show at the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace. In March 2003, Reverend Oshima journeyed to Sri Lanka, having used his few weeks of vacation in order to fulfil Maharishi's request. He was received by a local teacher of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Programme, and immediately started working tirelessly to introduce Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Programme in the nation's temples. One of the first meetings was with a saint whom Maharishi had met years before on his visits to the country and who is now leader Shankara of one the three streams of Buddhism in Sri Lanka. Maharishi had specifically advised Reverend Oshima that receiving the blessings of saints, senior monks, and elders of the temples would be the secret of success wherever he travelled. Wherever monks learned Transcendental Meditation, it was greatly appreciated. As one great elder commented, 'Transcendental Meditation is a wonderful meditation system', an opinion supported by a remarkable 94-year-old monk, the most venerable encountered by Dr Oshima. Within two months, Reverend Oshima and local teachers of Transcendental Meditation had taught 500 monks from 30 temples. This figure subsequently rose to over 1000, representing approximately 3 per cent of the total population of monks in the nation, drawn from 8 per cent of its 600 temples. Applauding this news, Maharishi told them that the first step had been achieved. Within two years, Reverend Oshima and his colleagues had taught 1550 monks from 71 temples. Dr Suzuki observed that improvements in the Sri Lankan economy and reduction of crime had occurred since the project began. On Maharishi's inspiration, Reverend Oshima travelled on to Thailand, where more than 1500 Buddhist monks have now learned the Transcendental Meditation Programme. The young Buddhist monks were thrilled by Maharishi's knowledge, and were particularly interested in the Unified Field chart, illustrating how the Unified Field of Natural Law described by modern quantum physics is experienced directly as the field of pure consciousness, the Self, during Transcendental Meditation. In recognition of these great achievements, Reverend Oshima was honoured with the degree of Doctor of World Peace Honoris Causa, the highest degree bestowed by Maharishi University of World Peace. The text of the diploma refers to the techniques that Lord Buddha taught to experience Nirvana, and recounts how, with the long lapse of time, these techniques were lost to the world, only now being restored through Reverend Oshima's programme of teaching Transcendental Meditation, which gives the experience of transcending to Buddhist monks. In accordance with Maharishi's wishes, the Diploma was presented by the Shankara, the most senior monk in Thailand. Dr Suzuki noted that wherever Reverend Dr Oshima goes, monks are starting the technique at one temple after another. Maharishi had commented that it is the Sattvapurityin Reverend Dr Oshima that is responsible for his success, which has so far resulted in 3100 Buddhist monks learning Transcendental Meditation in more than 100 temples in Sri Lanka and Thailand. Reverend Dr Oshima gave credit for the success of the project to the guidance and blessings of Maharishi, thanking him for the wonderful gifts of knowledge and enlightenment on behalf of all the Buddhist monks who have learned Transcendental Meditation. Eloquently expressing his deep respect and gratitude to Maharishi, Reverend Dr Oshima also gave special thanks to all those who have sponsored this programme and contributed to its success. Copyright © 2008 Global Good News(sm) Service. - Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den schönsten Strand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. He told us quite explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a non-denominational, non-belief, non-religious program. And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him thinking: TM is part of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to disguise it in order for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To him, TM was very much a universal thing that was separate and apart from his own personal Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from the trappings of religion. And it was with that very worldview that he packaged TM and, successfully, brought it into the world. And that's how things were progressing until about 1977-9 when things started falling apart, largely from his own doing. And I refer to an abandonment of the above described universal non-religious approach. This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. I don't know who was explaining all this to you or whether it was done in some official capacity. But I can tell you what I was taught as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step program and as a teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the TM Program was (1) not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; and (3) the organisation taking on the responsibility of disseminating this knowledge would itself embody those very principles (because to do otherwise would be to stop being universal and therefore alienate some potential practitioners of TM). Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well. I don't quite get your problem with this becoming a religion. As religions go, I would probably be the first in line to sign up. But once it is a religion, you lose the potential to get 99% of the people on the planet to sign up. That's not being universal. Hey, I'd love to have a guru and sit cross-legged on the Ganges at the feet of a master and get darshan and all that. Must be a wonderful path! But that's not the path I chose for myself; I actually bought into the whole TM 20 minutes twice a day and then go into activity and, according to one's own religion and values and traditions and common sense, perform action. I truly, honestly believe that to be THE highest and fastest and most effective path to enlightenment. And for the vast, vast majority of Westerners (i.e., 99.9% of Westerners in the TMO) performing
[FairfieldLife] Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm all for poetic license and I agree that great artists steal and
may modify the stolen item any way they like as per that same
license. But you were passing this off as a factual statement in
support of something. That's a little different, don't you think?
He probably should have preceeded his statement by saying To
paraphrase Ben Franklin... and then it would have all made sense and
been ethical as well.
By the way, the court house is prolly the least likely place to
issue poetic licenses; moreover, that kind of license is taken, not
purchased.
- Original Message
From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:55:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I think you're misquoting Benjamin Franklin who said, A republic,
if you can keep it.
I knew the quote and who spoke it. But I went to the court house
and
purchased a poetic license. Surely I can use it here?
!--
#ygrp-mkp{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px
0px;padding:0px 14px;}
#ygrp-mkp hr{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
#ygrp-mkp #hd{
color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-
height:122%;margin:10px 0px;}
#ygrp-mkp #ads{
margin-bottom:10px;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad{
padding:0 0;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a{
color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}
--
!--
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
font-family:Arial;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
--
!--
#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean,
sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,
clean, sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}
#ygrp-text{
font-family:Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p{
margin:0 0 1em 0;}
#ygrp-tpmsgs{
font-family:Arial;
clear:both;}
#ygrp-vitnav{
padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;}
#ygrp-vitnav a{
padding:0 1px;}
#ygrp-actbar{
clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-
align:right;}
#ygrp-actbar .left{
float:left;white-space:nowrap;}
.bld{font-weight:bold;}
#ygrp-grft{
font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
#ygrp-ft{
font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666;
padding:5px 0;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
padding-bottom:10px;}
#ygrp-vital{
background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
#ygrp-vital #vithd{
font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-
transform:uppercase;}
#ygrp-vital ul{
padding:0;margin:2px 0;}
#ygrp-vital ul li{
list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-
align:right;padding-right:.5em;}
#ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
font-weight:bold;}
#ygrp-vital a{
text-decoration:none;}
#ygrp-vital a:hover{
text-decoration:underline;}
#ygrp-sponsor #hd{
color:#999;font-size:77%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov{
padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #nc{
background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
padding:8px 0;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-
size:100%;line-height:122%;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
text-decoration:none;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
text-decoration:underline;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
margin:0;}
o{font-size:0;}
.MsoNormal{
margin:0 0 0 0;}
#ygrp-text tt{
font-size:120%;}
blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;}
.replbq{margin:4;}
--
Send instant messages to your online friends
http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Even more succinctly in these few words,...offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm In other words, transcend our illusory individual nature. The rest is an intro lecture for the few fortunate souls that may stumble across this with open hearts and minds. If this is what it takes to continue to make the TM technique available in the world, what is there to take issue with? BECAUSE IT FUCKING DOESN'T WORK, THAT'S WHY. How many MORE years of cult-run TMO do you want? We've had 30 years...would ANOTHER 30 years make you happy? The failure of the TMO since the success -- the INCREDIBLE success -- of the 1970s is the story of: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peacethe Tower of Invincibility in every nationbliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the global ceremony. * Guru Purnima is the day in the Vedic Calendar which honours the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, traditionally celebrated each year on the full moon in July. ** Maharishi's Master, Shri Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmanand Saraswati, Jagatguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas *** Maharishi has explained that Purusha means the Self, the quality of infinite silence of the Unified Field of Natural Law. Purusha also refers to members of the Maharishi Purusha Programmewhich was designed by Maharishi for men who wish to dedicate themselves fulltime to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. This is accomplished through the extended group practice of the
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Experience with Creativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent all last night trying to write something that would clarify what creativity was. But I ended up deleting the whole thing. It was completely worthless. I made the mistake of figuring it out instead of experiencing it. That's as ridiculous as figuring out what a watermelon tastes like instead of tasting it. How would you like to order some watermelon and instead of bringing some, the waiter comes over and gives you speech about how a watermelon tastes. Well I've been doing the same thing. Magnificent descriptions that mistake description for experience. But eating watermelon is all that matters, isn't it. Speeches about it are ridiculous. So, you've read my eloquent speeches about creativity. And they were ridiculous. One of my friends read them and said, Ben, this is brilliant, but it's crap. It's book learning instead of direct experience. He's right. Ideas about creativity don't matter. All that matters is the experience. And that doesn't take eloquence or anything sophisticated. Everyone thinks creative people must be sophisticated. Nope. Any birdbrain could do it. It's childishly simple. Volumes written about it by learned watermelon orators only obscure and confuse it. It all boils down to this: Be both soft and strong. Soft and strong. That simple. It's just as easy for me to be soft as soft can be, as it is or me to be as strong as strong can be. I can be absolutely determined and immoveable just as easily as I can dump all my intentions and submit to someone else's lead. I'm soft when soft makes sense and strong when strength is needed. When I'm wrong I'm happy to admit it; when I'm right I can't be budged. That's what androgyny is like. That's the way you have to be if you want to be creative. There's no way you can be creative unless you can be just as easily soft as you can be just as easily strong. Don't take my word for it. Prove it to yourself. Practice being both soft and strong and notice what happens. You'll then know from your own direct experience. Anything else is just a watermelon lecture. Simply put, creativity occurs when intention opens up to the Divine. For me that's not holiness. It's the common sense that presumes God exists, simply because he might. And that sets me up to be open to whatever Divine action might be in the offing. So I'd be pacing about, intending to create a lecture, and I'm trusting that God will help, because it's just stupid not to. I assert my intention by intending to write, and I'm submissive to however God might help. And this is all there is to being creative. Being soft and strong, intending and accepting. Everything arises from the intimate meeting of intention and acceptance, action and surrender, yin and yang. The flavor cannot exist without the meeting of the fruit and the mouth; the color cannot exist without the meeting of the rainbow and the eye. In order to taste one must take a bite, in order to hear one must listen, to see one must look. We enter and are entered, the intimate weaving of the two bringing forth a third quality, which then takes form as insight, intuition, realization, revelation, healing, peace, illumination, wonder, awe . . . or simply the sweet enjoyment of being. Thanks so much for listening. Much Love, Ben --- Delightful!! Now, where can we appreciate the work you do? -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
Your best post to FFL, ever, Shemp. Congrats ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. He told us quite explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a non-denominational, non-belief, non-religious program. And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him thinking: TM is part of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to disguise it in order for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To him, TM was very much a universal thing that was separate and apart from his own personal Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from the trappings of religion. And it was with that very worldview that he packaged TM and, successfully, brought it into the world. And that's how things were progressing until about 1977-9 when things started falling apart, largely from his own doing. And I refer to an abandonment of the above described universal non-religious approach. This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. I don't know who was explaining all this to you or whether it was done in some official capacity. But I can tell you what I was taught as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step program and as a teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the TM Program was (1) not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; and (3) the organisation taking on the responsibility of disseminating this knowledge would itself embody those very principles (because to do otherwise would be to stop being universal and therefore alienate some potential practitioners of TM). Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well. I don't quite get your problem with this becoming a religion. As religions go, I would probably be the first in line to sign up. But once it is a religion, you lose the potential to get 99% of the people on the planet to sign up. That's not being universal. Hey, I'd love to have a guru and sit cross-legged on the Ganges at the feet of a master and get darshan and all that. Must be a wonderful path! But that's not the path I chose for myself; I actually bought into the whole TM 20 minutes twice a day and then go into activity and, according to one's own religion and values and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
I don't think so, Shemp. To paraphrase means to restate the same thing in
different words or a different form--it works on the principle that meaning is
that which can always be said some other way. But this is not what happened.
There is a huge difference between a republic and theocracy.
- Original Message
From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:46:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I'm all for poetic license and I agree that great artists steal and
may modify the stolen item any way they like as per that same
license. But you were passing this off as a factual statement in
support of something. That's a little different, don't you think?
He probably should have preceeded his statement by saying To
paraphrase Ben Franklin... and then it would have all made sense and
been ethical as well.
By the way, the court house is prolly the least likely place to
issue poetic licenses; moreover, that kind of license is taken, not
purchased.
- Original Message
From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:55:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I think you're misquoting Benjamin Franklin who said, A republic,
if you can keep it.
I knew the quote and who spoke it. But I went to the court house
and
purchased a poetic license. Surely I can use it here?
!--
#ygrp-mkp{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px
0px;padding: 0px 14px;}
#ygrp-mkp hr{
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
#ygrp-mkp #hd{
color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:bold; line-
height:122%; margin:10px 0px;}
#ygrp-mkp #ads{
margin-bottom: 10px;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad{
padding:0 0;}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a{
color:#ff; text-decoration: none;}
--
!--
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
font-family: Arial;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
margin:10px 0px;font-weight: bold;font- size:78%; line-height: 122%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;}
--
!--
#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean,
sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,
clean, sans-serif;}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}
#ygrp-text{
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p{
margin:0 0 1em 0;}
#ygrp-tpmsgs{
font-family: Arial;
clear:both;}
#ygrp-vitnav{
padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}
#ygrp-vitnav a{
padding:0 1px;}
#ygrp-actbar{
clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text-
align:right; }
#ygrp-actbar .left{
float:left;white- space:nowrap; }
.bld{font-weight: bold;}
#ygrp-grft{
font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}
#ygrp-ft{
font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;
padding:5px 0;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
padding-bottom: 10px;}
#ygrp-vital{
background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
#ygrp-vital #vithd{
font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text-
transform:uppercase ;}
#ygrp-vital ul{
padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}
#ygrp-vital ul li{
list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text-
align:right; padding-right: .5em;}
#ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
font-weight: bold;}
#ygrp-vital a{
text-decoration: none;}
#ygrp-vital a:hover{
text-decoration: underline; }
#ygrp-sponsor #hd{
color:#999;font- size:77%; }
#ygrp-sponsor #ov{
padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}
#ygrp-sponsor #nc{
background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
padding:8px 0;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-
size:100%;line- height:122% ;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
text-decoration: none;}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
text-decoration: underline; }
#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
margin:0;}
o{font-size: 0;}
.MsoNormal{
margin:0 0 0 0;}
#ygrp-text tt{
font-size:120% ;}
blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
.replbq{margin: 4;}
--
Send instant messages to your online friends
http://uk.messenger .yahoo.com
Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:01 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors Your best post to FFL, ever, Shemp. Congrats ! See what happens when he takes a break for two weeks? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg. In which peer-reviewed respected scientific journal was this published? lol, get a life Vaj. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: somebody had sex with somebody at mum or Sex in general
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of the story of the women who had been married three times and was still at virgin. The first time she married an 80 ish multimillionaire who took one look at her body had a fatal heart attack and she inherited gazillions. The next guy she married was because he was so so handsome and he wanted her money and girls was just not his thingy. The third time she married a TM teacher who kept her up all night telling her how good it was going to be someday when she was enlightened. Tom HAHAHAHA. Is it just me or has FFL gone from bitter back biting and Dilettante to deep belly laught? Oh, right I see. It's all me and the world is as I am. Cool.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Even more succinctly in these few words,...offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm In other words, transcend our illusory individual nature. The rest is an intro lecture for the few fortunate souls that may stumble across this with open hearts and minds. If this is what it takes to continue to make the TM technique available in the world, what is there to take issue with? BECAUSE IT FUCKING DOESN'T WORK, THAT'S WHY. How many MORE years of cult-run TMO do you want? zero We've had 30 years...would ANOTHER 30 years make you happy? I don't get the question... The failure of the TMO since the success -- the INCREDIBLE success -- of the 1970s is the story of: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. yeah...but the 70's are long gone, and if the only org to keep this technique alive is the wacky inefficient one, well that's what we got, and better than nothing, imo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 5:34 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg. In which peer-reviewed respected scientific journal was this published? The textbook and research compendium Consciousness and Self- Regulation: Advances in Research and Theory, Volume 3. Edited by Richard J. Davidson (SUNY), Gary E. Schwartz (Yale U.) and David Shapiro (UCLA). ...this series is of considerable importance for professionals and students in clinical, social and cognitive psychology. -Contemporary Psychology lol, get a life Vaj. Thanks Off, but I already have one.
[FairfieldLife] 'Clinton's Make Politics Sleazy...'
The Clinton's make us feel bad about ourselves as Americans... They adopted many Republican policies and weakened the Democratic Party. They began the vicious partisanship which permeates Washington D.C. They turn race against race, woman against men, religion against religion, And who is benefiting? Obama is like David fighting Goliath, in this race. Hillary's become the siren and Bill the Cyclops, metaphorically. Fighting a polished machine: they will do anything to win. We cannot continue this polarization and expect to evolve. The need to pull together is real. Unity is stronger than divisiveness... We need a clean break from the past, both from Bush's and Clinton's. This is the truth. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Experience with Creativity
Thank you mrfishy. A friend of mine set up a website where he puts my stuff. I'll paste in the link. http://www.miraclescenter.us/gilberti.htm mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent all last night trying to write something that would clarify what creativity was. But I ended up deleting the whole thing. It was completely worthless. I made the mistake of figuring it out instead of experiencing it. That's as ridiculous as figuring out what a watermelon tastes like instead of tasting it. How would you like to order some watermelon and instead of bringing some, the waiter comes over and gives you speech about how a watermelon tastes. Well I've been doing the same thing. Magnificent descriptions that mistake description for experience. But eating watermelon is all that matters, isn't it. Speeches about it are ridiculous. So, you've read my eloquent speeches about creativity. And they were ridiculous. One of my friends read them and said, Ben, this is brilliant, but it's crap. It's book learning instead of direct experience. He's right. Ideas about creativity don't matter. All that matters is the experience. And that doesn't take eloquence or anything sophisticated. Everyone thinks creative people must be sophisticated. Nope. Any birdbrain could do it. It's childishly simple. Volumes written about it by learned watermelon orators only obscure and confuse it. It all boils down to this: Be both soft and strong. Soft and strong. That simple. It's just as easy for me to be soft as soft can be, as it is or me to be as strong as strong can be. I can be absolutely determined and immoveable just as easily as I can dump all my intentions and submit to someone else's lead. I'm soft when soft makes sense and strong when strength is needed. When I'm wrong I'm happy to admit it; when I'm right I can't be budged. That's what androgyny is like. That's the way you have to be if you want to be creative. There's no way you can be creative unless you can be just as easily soft as you can be just as easily strong. Don't take my word for it. Prove it to yourself. Practice being both soft and strong and notice what happens. You'll then know from your own direct experience. Anything else is just a watermelon lecture. Simply put, creativity occurs when intention opens up to the Divine. For me that's not holiness. It's the common sense that presumes God exists, simply because he might. And that sets me up to be open to whatever Divine action might be in the offing. So I'd be pacing about, intending to create a lecture, and I'm trusting that God will help, because it's just stupid not to. I assert my intention by intending to write, and I'm submissive to however God might help. And this is all there is to being creative. Being soft and strong, intending and accepting. Everything arises from the intimate meeting of intention and acceptance, action and surrender, yin and yang. The flavor cannot exist without the meeting of the fruit and the mouth; the color cannot exist without the meeting of the rainbow and the eye. In order to taste one must take a bite, in order to hear one must listen, to see one must look. We enter and are entered, the intimate weaving of the two bringing forth a third quality, which then takes form as insight, intuition, realization, revelation, healing, peace, illumination, wonder, awe . . . or simply the sweet enjoyment of being. Thanks so much for listening. Much Love, Ben --- Delightful!! Now, where can we appreciate the work you do? - - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
maybe you could ask all those Buddhist monks who just started TM... (msg# 162047) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Rick, I've hit you with this quote before. I'll hit you with it again. This fellow they've nominated claims he's the new Thomas Jefferson. Well, let me tell you something: I knew Thomas Jefferson. He was a friend of mine, and governor you're no Thomas Jefferson. --Ronald Reagan, Republican National Convention, 1992 I suspect that Maharishi /might/ have become awakened. But if you come from a hustler family and hustle as he did to keep close to Guru Dev, you're going to stay a hustler. Perhaps my experiences are not genuine and I've not seen what those states of consciousness are and I'll change so that no one recognizes me from my words or actions. Lord knows most people may not suspect what my previous handle here was and I notice a very strong absence of flack following up my posts. OTOH maybe I've had enough experiences to know that no matter how grand all becomes and no matter how much The Secret dissolves, I'm gonna be one randy, rowdy dude. Indeed the more grand and glorious things become the more freely the rowdiness and randiness can flow and the more it attracts the same. There's a certain sovereign feeling that you've been granted of sort of a cosmic diplomatic immunity. That actually makes you more of what you were because you don't have fear and because wherever you look there is you and you can attract even more of what you previously attracted. Thank me for the vast development of the heart and seeing God in everything. That and a strong ethical and moral sense appears vital to me to keep you from doing nasty things and getting away with them, at least during the transition. You might only act as Nature moves you, but Nature flows in the same vessel as before. It's one thing to spend your life/dharma being a beacon of inner light and start the whole thing as a child prodigy. It's another thing to work in a factory at some capacity and see the beacon of light pass by. And it's yet another thing to take all of this as a buffet with the agenda of facilitating your randy, rowdy life. Perhaps you're Shankaracharia material and therefore you become and exude that, perhaps when you attain a certain level of consciousness you become another person. This I doubt but I'm open to anything that comes because frankly so far this ride has been one of glory. I'm glory, glory all around, glory in my heart, I see the glory in your heart... but not in everyones' heart, eh? Open your eyes, take a good look around. You are the only one here. Actually that was you plural. Yes, I see the love, the joy, the glory in everyone's heart. And yes, I am the only one here. That's the first realization. Then you realize that there are differences and you can discriminate. And it's a joy to both be the only one here and also share your joy with others. Others really do exist, though not in as drab and troubled a state as they might think. They exist as light, love, joy, delight, God, man, woman, birth, death but eternal life, infinity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of the great patriarch Subhuti in the Chinese epic, Journey to the West. It is said of him, Having found his own nature, he let it run free. - Original Message From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:43:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip There's a certain sovereign feeling that you've been granted of sort of a cosmic diplomatic immunity. That actually makes you more of what you were because you don't have fear and because wherever you look there is you and you can attract even more of what you previously attracted. That's exactly right on point. Hot damn. It is just so intimate that yes, where there was resistance, you convince you that you're not going to win the endless war between you and you and so you just surrender. And when you do, it all flows so wonderfully. And yes, I've had women (and guys, ahh, that was a shocker, but I'll adjust in time) throw themselves at me. I've managed to catch them all before they fell on me, thanked them kindly for the offer and enjoyed a cup of cocoa and maybe an AW cheese chili dog (YEAH!) with them instead, shook hands and bid them goodbye. Meanwhile back in Annibpura... I love to go to the Hy-Vee. I'll pick out the sternest old farmer woman I can find, zap her right in her funny bone and we're nearly rolling on the floor enjoying deep belly laughs. It would be a heady experience but my head keeps moving around and sometimes disappears. HAHAHAHA I just thought of an old joke about a beach bum and a corked up bottle washed up on shore. I wonder just what would happen if I said said to one of these gal genies that I'd like a little head? HAHAHAHA. It's so great that God not only can take a joke, he also gives us a bunch in return. At this point I'm not sure if God is love or a stand up comedian. No matter. It's all so much fun.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:24 PM, sandiego108 wrote: maybe you could ask all those Buddhist monks who just started TM... (msg# 162047) Hi Jim: It's an old recycled message. A digital TMO tract, if you will. Someone (not me) already debunked it a while back. It made me smile, I hope it did for you too. Desperation takes many forms dear man! I hope you're building your own monument. BTW: did you move to San Diego or do you really have sand in your ego?
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Alex: aren't you HAPPY that the melting glaciers are the result of a volcanoe? If true, that would mean that global warming is NOT man- made and that we will NOT all die a horrible death like Al Gore wants us to believe. Aren't you excited about the possibility that the concept of man- made catastrophic global warming is all bunk? Personally, I have no position on global warming, one way or the other. It just struck me that you were posting this story as some kind of blanket debunking of global warming, when a quick check of Google news shows that this story is about a localized phenomenon that does not explain glacial melting elsewhere. So, I posted that snippet for balance and accuracy. I find that strange, Alex, and, yes, hard to believe. We have been told by Al Gore that millions and millions will die if catastrophic man-made global warming continues. And you have no position on it one way or the other? If Samantha Stevens, right this instant, could twitch her nose and instantly tinka-tinka-tee away all usage of fossil fuels on earth, the CO2 that is in the atmosphere right now will continue to be there for many decades to come. And, in reality, mankind is not going to stop using fossil fuels any time soon. So, if man's contribution to atmospheric CO2 *can* cause catastrophe, then it's inevitably *going* to cause catastrophe because it's too late to stop it. My getting all caught up in emotional drama over global warming isn't going to remedy the situation, so I simply choose to not focus on it. How can you be neutral on something that potentially can devastate mankind? For one, I'm tired of living in fear, whether it's Al Gore and global warming or the GOP and its Islamofascism boogeyman, so I tend to tune out trendy fear memes. And, I'm also aware of how the scientific community at large is very capable of glomming onto information cascades of utterly bogus concepts, like Ancel Keys' lipid hypothesis that has most people terrified of saturated fats and cholesterol and believing they need to pop statin drugs and eat refined garbage like soybean and canola oils. At the very least I would think that you would feel at least a LITTLE relieved that there is information that holds out hope that the dire warnings are wrong. I don't know whether or not you edited the article you posted, but it did not convey the totality of that story. Any feeling of relief from what you posted would have as its foundation the omission of facts that were reported in more thorough coverage of that same story.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And I will suggest one other thing to you while we are on the subject: these activities of the TMO that I refer to as being off the program that everyone from Bevan to the guy that does the janitorial services for MUM are heavily engaged in were set up by Maharishi as a test. It's all a test by him to see who actually listened to his instructions. You know how everyone always says that the crazy way that Maharishi instructs people to do this and that is designed to weatherstrip them and acclimatize them and make them flexible? Well, that's precisely what this whole sordid set- up of the Movement is. He's been waiting for 30 years for someone to say: STOP THE INSANITY. But no one has come forth 'cause no one paid attention in TTC. I did and it's very lonely here. Well that's quite interesting. Perhaps that explains why the people who are privately most ON THE PROGRAM, as you would have it, are having the greatest of unfolding. The ones who looked at this all and scoffed are sitting around with me and others who have places off campus and we're all in joy and glory and things are just unfolding minute by minute and we're having cocoa and AW cheese chili dogs and bacon and egg suppers. New very lucrative opportunities back on our home planets are tracking us down to deliver contracts to sign. We're thinking of getting our own printer and fax things are coming at us so fast. Meanwhile the thousand heads are reading experiences which are boring recaps of the previous broadcasts or tapes from Maharishi and those of us in joy are all saying Heart? heart? I don't I detect any heart here. This doesn't ring in me as an authentic experience. Meanwhile, we're prancing around together in 200% ^^ 2. And the citizens who are more Catholic than the Pope, so to speak, are suffering greatly so we try to lose them as fast as possible and go our way and bounce with joy (out of eyesight of the spies). Lonely? How can you be lonely with all this joy and richness is gushing out of firehoses?
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
Gee, there's not much to disagree with what Alex says here. Well said. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Alex: aren't you HAPPY that the melting glaciers are the result of a volcanoe? If true, that would mean that global warming is NOT man- made and that we will NOT all die a horrible death like Al Gore wants us to believe. Aren't you excited about the possibility that the concept of man- made catastrophic global warming is all bunk? Personally, I have no position on global warming, one way or the other. It just struck me that you were posting this story as some kind of blanket debunking of global warming, when a quick check of Google news shows that this story is about a localized phenomenon that does not explain glacial melting elsewhere. So, I posted that snippet for balance and accuracy. I find that strange, Alex, and, yes, hard to believe. We have been told by Al Gore that millions and millions will die if catastrophic man-made global warming continues. And you have no position on it one way or the other? If Samantha Stevens, right this instant, could twitch her nose and instantly tinka-tinka-tee away all usage of fossil fuels on earth, the CO2 that is in the atmosphere right now will continue to be there for many decades to come. And, in reality, mankind is not going to stop using fossil fuels any time soon. So, if man's contribution to atmospheric CO2 *can* cause catastrophe, then it's inevitably *going* to cause catastrophe because it's too late to stop it. My getting all caught up in emotional drama over global warming isn't going to remedy the situation, so I simply choose to not focus on it. How can you be neutral on something that potentially can devastate mankind? For one, I'm tired of living in fear, whether it's Al Gore and global warming or the GOP and its Islamofascism boogeyman, so I tend to tune out trendy fear memes. And, I'm also aware of how the scientific community at large is very capable of glomming onto information cascades of utterly bogus concepts, like Ancel Keys' lipid hypothesis that has most people terrified of saturated fats and cholesterol and believing they need to pop statin drugs and eat refined garbage like soybean and canola oils. At the very least I would think that you would feel at least a LITTLE relieved that there is information that holds out hope that the dire warnings are wrong. I don't know whether or not you edited the article you posted, but it did not convey the totality of that story. Any feeling of relief from what you posted would have as its foundation the omission of facts that were reported in more thorough coverage of that same story.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Even more succinctly in these few words,...offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm In other words, transcend our illusory individual nature. The rest is an intro lecture for the few fortunate souls that may stumble across this with open hearts and minds. If this is what it takes to continue to make the TM technique available in the world, what is there to take issue with? BECAUSE IT FUCKING DOESN'T WORK, THAT'S WHY. How many MORE years of cult-run TMO do you want? zero We've had 30 years...would ANOTHER 30 years make you happy? I don't get the question... The failure of the TMO since the success -- the INCREDIBLE success -- of the 1970s is the story of: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. yeah...but the 70's are long gone, and if the only org to keep this technique alive is the wacky inefficient one, well that's what we got, and better than nothing, imo. Fotunately, Maharishi gave us his we are satisfied answer in response to a question during a press conference several years ago in which the questioner asking him whether it was okay that he had learned TM from a non-TMO TM teacher. Maharishi's answer? We are satisfied...there was a wee bit more to it than that but that was the crux of it. Perhaps some enterprising TM teacher will multiply himself and offer an inexpensive TM taught in line with the purity of the teaching to millions across the world. I'll be satisfied if that would happen...will you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg. But the idiom of today is science. So since we can't tie them up and flog them like the missionaries did until they embraced TM, woo them with badly controlled studies which demonstrate, not double blind random control group studies which prove. They'll never know the difference. And it's cheaper and we get more amazing results.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:42 PM, The Secret wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg. But the idiom of today is science. So since we can't tie them up and flog them like the missionaries did until they embraced TM, woo them with badly controlled studies which demonstrate, not double blind random control group studies which prove. They'll never know the difference. And it's cheaper and we get more amazing results. Actually the researchers in this case feel they know how the TMO flubbed the data. Any guesses what they came up with?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Whachatink Lurk? (Natural morality? Nope, but yeah.)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lurk, Should I get into it yet again with Curtis? I'm using you as my rantometer. Edg Solomon Sundur? I am not worthy Edg. Certainly mixing it up with Curits has produced some great exchanges , but I find it beneficial to give fellow posters wide leeway before I take a swipe. I'll make a confession Edg. You are 63, I am 53. I see a lot to look forward to in ten years in time if your outook and posts are any barometer. I may never be quite so strident, but I see a lot of spiritual maturing that looks pretty good. (and the street I live on would be ideal for Trikkes, and the neighborhood psyche fits it as well) I hope some day to get on board, but pressures of work, and fun with family don't make it feasible now. (although my waistline would benefit)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--How many TM teachers are needed (renegade teachers or TMO)?. What's wrong with Paul Brown: http://www.thequietpath.org ?? - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Even more succinctly in these few words,...offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm In other words, transcend our illusory individual nature. The rest is an intro lecture for the few fortunate souls that may stumble across this with open hearts and minds. If this is what it takes to continue to make the TM technique available in the world, what is there to take issue with? BECAUSE IT FUCKING DOESN'T WORK, THAT'S WHY. How many MORE years of cult-run TMO do you want? zero We've had 30 years...would ANOTHER 30 years make you happy? I don't get the question... The failure of the TMO since the success -- the INCREDIBLE success -- of the 1970s is the story of: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. yeah...but the 70's are long gone, and if the only org to keep this technique alive is the wacky inefficient one, well that's what we got, and better than nothing, imo. Fotunately, Maharishi gave us his we are satisfied answer in response to a question during a press conference several years ago in which the questioner asking him whether it was okay that he had learned TM from a non-TMO TM teacher. Maharishi's answer? We are satisfied...there was a wee bit more to it than that but that was the crux of it. Perhaps some enterprising TM teacher will multiply himself and offer an inexpensive TM taught in line with the purity of the teaching to millions across the world. I'll be satisfied if that would happen...will you? Yes, absolutely yes!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:24 PM, sandiego108 wrote: maybe you could ask all those Buddhist monks who just started TM... (msg# 162047) Hi Jim: It's an old recycled message. A digital TMO tract, if you will. Someone (not me) already debunked it a while back. It made me smile, I hope it did for you too. Can you point me to the debunking please? This is a recent article, stating that over 3100 Buddhist monks are practicing TM, and learning how to transcend as a result.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:50 PM, sandiego108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:24 PM, sandiego108 wrote: maybe you could ask all those Buddhist monks who just started TM... (msg# 162047) Hi Jim: It's an old recycled message. A digital TMO tract, if you will. Someone (not me) already debunked it a while back. It made me smile, I hope it did for you too. Can you point me to the debunking please? This is a recent article, stating that over 3100 Buddhist monks are practicing TM, and learning how to transcend as a result. I'm sorry Jim, I do not keep such arduous attention to the past, let alone my own. I bet Judy does, but you're in luck: she'll never tell.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Whachatink Lurk? (Natural morality? Nope, but yeah.)
No, kind one, it is I that is unworthy. I bow to your open heart. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Lurk, Should I get into it yet again with Curtis? I'm using you as my rantometer. Edg Solomon Sundur? I am not worthy Edg. Certainly mixing it up with Curits has produced some great exchanges , but I find it beneficial to give fellow posters wide leeway before I take a swipe. I'll make a confession Edg. You are 63, I am 53. I see a lot to look forward to in ten years in time if your outook and posts are any barometer. I may never be quite so strident, but I see a lot of spiritual maturing that looks pretty good. (and the street I live on would be ideal for Trikkes, and the neighborhood psyche fits it as well) I hope some day to get on board, but pressures of work, and fun with family don't make it feasible now. (although my waistline would benefit)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--TM is far superior to anything that Vaj's Guru Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has to offer. Not all Enlightened Masters are good teachers. He's one of the mediocre ones. http://www.tinyurl.com/2fmbdk In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:50 PM, sandiego108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:24 PM, sandiego108 wrote: maybe you could ask all those Buddhist monks who just started TM... (msg# 162047) Hi Jim: It's an old recycled message. A digital TMO tract, if you will. Someone (not me) already debunked it a while back. It made me smile, I hope it did for you too. Can you point me to the debunking please? This is a recent article, stating that over 3100 Buddhist monks are practicing TM, and learning how to transcend as a result. I'm sorry Jim, I do not keep such arduous attention to the past, let alone my own. I bet Judy does, but you're in luck: she'll never tell.
[FairfieldLife] God Is Great!
If anyone here ever doubted the subtlety of the laws of nature, this should squelch yer britches! This is one humdinger of a gen u wine miracleBaptist style answer to an innocent's need. What do we do with these stories? Edg http://tinyurl.com/2wv7lm Australian girl changes blood group, immune system CANBERRA (Reuters) - An Australian teenage girl has become the world's first known transplant patient to change blood groups and take on the immune system of her organ donor, doctors said on Friday, calling her a one-in-six-billion miracle. ADVERTISEMENT Demi-Lee Brennan, now 15, received a donor liver when she was 9 years old and her own liver failed. It's like my second chance at life, Brennan told local media, recounting how her body achieved what doctors said was the holy grail of transplant surgery. It's kind of hard to believe. Brennan's body changed blood group from O negative to O positive when she became ill while on drugs to avoid rejection of the organ by her body's immune system. Her new liver's blood stem cells then invaded her body's bone marrow to take over her entire immune system, meaning the teen no longer needs anti-rejection drugs. Doctors from Sydney's Westmead Childrens' Hospital said they had no explanation for Brennan's recovery, detailed in the latest edition of The New England Journal of Medicine. There was no precedent for this having happened at any other time, so we were sort of flying by the seat of our pants, Michael Stormon, a pediatric hepatologist, told local radio. Stuart Dorney, the hospital's former transplant unit head, said Brennan's treatment could lead to breakthroughs in organ transplant treatment, because normally the immune system of recipients attacked the transplanted tissue. We now need to go back over everything that happened to Demi-Lee and see why, and if it can be replicated, said Dorney. We think because we used a young person's liver and Demi-Lee had low white blood cells, that could have been a reason, he told the Daily Telegraph newspaper. Rejection is normally treated with a combination of drugs, although chronic rejection is irreversible. Only seven-in-10 transplant operations in Australia are successful after a five-year period due to rejection complications. (Reporting by Rob Taylor; Editing by Alex Richardson)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the researchers in this case feel they know how the TMO flubbed the data. Any guesses what they came up with? I don't remember this case specifically, but was it because of the failure to establish a baseline? Metabolic rates vary tremendously in an individual.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:08 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: --TM is far superior to anything that Vaj's Guru Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has to offer. Not all Enlightened Masters are good teachers. He's one of the mediocre ones. Perhaps for some who prefer supermarket mind. I'm sorry--I'm not one of them! Do as you please! -V. Around 1997, 121 Pundits came to Stroudsburg, PA (Poconos ) to do an 11 day Ati Rudra Maha Yajnam. The center is connected with the Shankaracharya of the South who sent a beautiful swami to represent him. The Swami was tall and with his danda pole reminded me of pictures of Guru Dev. A couple of TM Siddhas, friends of mine, had a private audience with the Swami. They asked about MMY. He replied that the only thing he heard was : Apparently MMY visited the Shankaryacharya some time ago. And after MMY had left, the Shankaryacharya commented to the Swami that MMY's mind was a complete mess, a supermarket, not quiet at all. Supposedly, the Shankaracharya successions in the South were never broken and seemingly free from scandals.
[FairfieldLife] Sex Scandaled TM-Movement rating Falls in Tao-Jones Indices of Shakti
Simply a tragic loss in Tao rating: Sex Scandaled TM Movement, Rating Falls in Tao-Jones Shakti Index At its peak in the early 1990's the TMmovement claimed a million meditators in North America, some 30 thousand teachers of TM and about 100 thousand advanced practitioners of TM. About one in 300 Americans had learned TM during the 1070's, 80's and early 90's. Through Vedic accounting practices a vast international empire of capital and real estate holdings was amassed through donations solicited from members of goodwill, for world peace projects. Today membership is down to some several hundreds of followers, administrated by some who were rajas until recently who had paid for their titles, and now some few appointed Rajas and prime ministers, a King and an aged founder and paid pundits. -- a downturn blamed largely on complaints about the sexual scandals of administrators and financial improprieties within the group. A loss of shakti. Sex Scandaled Megachurch Rating falls in Tao Jones Shakti Indices http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/161917 Simply a tragic loss in Tao rating: At its peak in the early 1990s, it claimed about 10,000 members and 24 pastors and was a media powerhouse. By soliciting tithes of 10 percent from each member's income, the church was able to build a Bible college, two schools, a worldwide TV ministry and a $12 million sanctuary the size of a fortress. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/national/main3525820.shtml Today membership is down to about 1,500, the church has 18 pastors, most of them volunteers, and the Bible college and TV ministry have shuttered - a downturn blamed largely on complaints about the sexual scandals.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--Good for you, Vaj...but I'm not a devotee of your Guru, so there! - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:08 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: --TM is far superior to anything that Vaj's Guru Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has to offer. Not all Enlightened Masters are good teachers. He's one of the mediocre ones. Perhaps for some who prefer supermarket mind. I'm sorry--I'm not one of them! Do as you please! -V. Around 1997, 121 Pundits came to Stroudsburg, PA (Poconos ) to do an 11 day Ati Rudra Maha Yajnam. The center is connected with the Shankaracharya of the South who sent a beautiful swami to represent him. The Swami was tall and with his danda pole reminded me of pictures of Guru Dev. A couple of TM Siddhas, friends of mine, had a private audience with the Swami. They asked about MMY. He replied that the only thing he heard was : Apparently MMY visited the Shankaryacharya some time ago. And after MMY had left, the Shankaryacharya commented to the Swami that MMY's mind was a complete mess, a supermarket, not quiet at all. Supposedly, the Shankaracharya successions in the South were never broken and seemingly free from scandals.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was. You got me there. I have these visions of the subjects flexing their muscles or stretching, but I don't have a clue.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:27 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the researchers in this case feel they know how the TMO flubbed the data. Any guesses what they came up with? I don't remember this case specifically, but was it because of the failure to establish a baseline? Metabolic rates vary tremendously in an individual. Wow, you're good! Yes, it did in fact have to do with messing with the baseline (in their opinion). But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was. You got me there. I have these visions of the subjects flexing their muscles or stretching, but I don't have a clue. That's another good guess. I would've guessed asanas and pranayama (the basic rounding formula), although I certainly can't rule that out. But it's something other than that. I ain't tellin' till someone guesses it though--or bothers to read this paper on their own lazy ass and can engage. That's my ante.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
On Jan 24, 2008, at 10:05 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was. You got me there. I have these visions of the subjects flexing their muscles or stretching, but I don't have a clue. That's another good guess. I would've guessed asanas and pranayama (the basic rounding formula), although I certainly can't rule that out. But it's something other than that. I ain't tellin' till someone guesses it though--or bothers to read this paper on their own lazy ass and can engage. That's my ante. Ack! You aren't going to make me look it up, are you? I thought about the asanas and breathing, but thought that that would have had to be disclosed as part of the process. Pretty soon I am going to be speculating about stressful test procedures and rectal temperatures being taken. . . Send me a pm with the facts, hon. Vaj, Such a tease. Spill the beans you old Master you. Do you think this flock will gather here ever again if not for your contributions? Without your vastness, what can ours ever be? You complete us as spice a dish, as gerUnds do poems, and as prostrations must adore the void. Teach us with silence will ya, Bub? Edg One word: (in original 80's parlance) cannulation. Also consider white coat syndrome etc. If you freak someone out--and then begin the study...you get a certain result. High heart rate and respiration rate - begin study.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
Vaj, Such a tease. Spill the beans you old Master you. Do you think this flock will gather here ever again if not for your contributions? Without your vastness, what can ours ever be? You complete us as spice a dish, as gerUnds do poems, and as prostrations must adore the void. Teach us with silence will ya, Bub? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was. You got me there. I have these visions of the subjects flexing their muscles or stretching, but I don't have a clue. That's another good guess. I would've guessed asanas and pranayama (the basic rounding formula), although I certainly can't rule that out. But it's something other than that. I ain't tellin' till someone guesses it though--or bothers to read this paper on their own lazy ass and can engage. That's my ante.
[FairfieldLife] An Outside View in to Fairfield
An outside view of Communal Meditating Fairfield A critical analysis I like this 1844 essay for some good parallels to the present in the analysis. The delineation of the 3 ways people look to participate is a good way of seeing some of the why and the character of who has come to the modern FF version of American utopian experiment. Also, the observation about the corrupting influence of money on their group, segmenting of the group by the handling of money. Can see this even now. Traveling around the state of Iowa now I often find people who look from the outside wondering what is going on in Fairfield. Most often they have only a general monolithic sense of Fairfield with its `meditators'. Picture they may get from the Des Moines Register about MUM or other media notes and TMmovement promotions. Mostly they see something that is `different' going on here without much of a discerning handle on it. So there is a frequent question about what is going on in Fairfield, wanting an inside view. In truth of course it is not monolithic at all here. That the utopian spiritual practice community which is in Fairfield now is mature and way more diverse than the TMmovement now. That it is utopian, experiment, is very American actually and is much more than the TMmovement, in Fairfield. The fun in running in to people and being introduced as being from Fairfield is to see that interest in folks where they recognize Fairfield for what is has become. Where they can tell that it is much more than the TMmovement and that the meditator community is in fact way more diverse. Even made up of folks like everyone else except that meditators pursue active spiritual practice here. That it is way more than just TM, is very utopian, large in thinking but that it is in fact also very American. Fairfield. Meditators. The meditating churches, the meditating satsangs, some meditators remaining on campus,the meditators up in VC, the meditating community off-campus out in FF meditators out in the greater Jefferson County area. This `outside view' essay was part of a larger book chronicling the life of Brook Farm, an early-American transcendentalist utopian communal experiment of the 1840's, similar in ways to Fairfield. This is a good read: http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/etext05/brkfm10.htm -Doug in FF AN OUTSIDE VIEW OF Communal (Meditating Fairfield). Critical Analysis: _From the Dial of January, 1844._ Though familiarly designated a Community, it is only so in the process of eating in commons; a practice at least as antiquated as the collegiate halls of old England, where it still continues without producing, as far as we can learn, any of the Spartan virtues. A residence at (meditating Fairfield) does not involve either a community of money, of opinions or of sympathy. The motives which bring individuals there, may be as various as their numbers. In fact, the present residents are divisible into three distinct classes; and if the majority in numbers were considered, it is possible that a vote in favor of self-sacrifice for the common good would not be very strongly carried. The leading portion of the adult inmates, they whose presence imparts the greatest peculiarity and the fraternal tone to the household, believe that an improved state of existence would be developed in Association, and are therefore anxious to promote it. Another class consists of those who join with the view of bettering their condition, by being exempt from some portion of worldly strife. The third portion comprises those who have their own development or education for their principal object. Practically, too, the institution manifests a threefold improvement over the world at large, corresponding to these three motives. In consequence of the first, the companionship, the personal intercourse, the social bearing, are of a marked and very superior character. There may possibly to some minds, long accustomed to other modes, appear a want of homeness and of the private fireside; but all observers must acknowledge a brotherly and softening condition, highly conducive to the permanent and pleasant growth of all the better human qualities. If the life is not of a deeply religious cast, it is at least not inferior to that which is exemplified elsewhere, and there is the advantage of an entire absence of assumption and pretence. The moral atmosphere, so far, is pure; and there is found a strong desire to walk ever on the mountain tops of life; though taste, rather than piety, is the aspect presented to the eye. In the second class of motives we have enumerated there is a strong tendency to an important improvement in meeting the terrestrial necessities of humanity. The banishment of servitude, the renouncement of hireling labor and the elevation of all unavoidable work to its true station, are problems whose solution seems to be charged upon Association; for the dissociate
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was. You got me there. I have these visions of the subjects flexing their muscles or stretching, but I don't have a clue. That's another good guess. I would've guessed asanas and pranayama (the basic rounding formula), although I certainly can't rule that out. But it's something other than that. I ain't tellin' till someone guesses it though--or bothers to read this paper on their own lazy ass and can engage. That's my ante. Ack! You aren't going to make me look it up, are you? I thought about the asanas and breathing, but thought that that would have had to be disclosed as part of the process. Pretty soon I am going to be speculating about stressful test procedures and rectal temperatures being taken. . . Send me a pm with the facts, hon.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 10:05 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: But can you guess how they did it? :-) Hint: this wasn't mere individual bias, it was a bias inherent in the procedure itself--one that could be leveraged to make the change in metabolic rate seem deeper than it was. You got me there. I have these visions of the subjects flexing their muscles or stretching, but I don't have a clue. That's another good guess. I would've guessed asanas and pranayama (the basic rounding formula), although I certainly can't rule that out. But it's something other than that. I ain't tellin' till someone guesses it though--or bothers to read this paper on their own lazy ass and can engage. That's my ante. Ack! You aren't going to make me look it up, are you? I thought about the asanas and breathing, but thought that that would have had to be disclosed as part of the process. Pretty soon I am going to be speculating about stressful test procedures and rectal temperatures being taken. . . Send me a pm with the facts, hon. Vaj, Such a tease. Spill the beans you old Master you. Do you think this flock will gather here ever again if not for your contributions? Without your vastness, what can ours ever be? You complete us as spice a dish, as gerUnds do poems, and as prostrations must adore the void. Teach us with silence will ya, Bub? Edg One word: (in original 80's parlance) cannulation. Also consider white coat syndrome etc. If you freak someone out--and then begin the study...you get a certain result. High heart rate and respiration rate - begin study So my second guess was pretty much it---stressful test procedures. Maybe not rectal temperatures, but. . . .
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul unveils Comprehensive Economic Revitalization Plan --- 1/24/08
Please forward this message to all your friends this is the ONLY well-thought-out prosperity package with a man who has supported this approach for decades, and not just in an election year like all the rest of the goons of both donkeys and elephants... Ron Paul unveils Comprehensive Economic Revitalization Package --- 1/24/08 1. Tax Reform Eliminate Taxes on Dividends and Savings. The basis of capitalism is savings, and Americans who do so should be rewarded. Pass HJ Res. 23 to encourage savings over consumption. Repeal the Death Tax. Attacking small businesses and breaking up family farms smothers growth and kills jobs. Pass H.R. 2734 to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. Cut Taxes for Working Seniors. Grandmothers and grandfathers working to make ends meet should keep all the fruits of their labor. Pass H.R. 191 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the inclusion in gross income of Social Security benefits. Eliminate Taxes on Social Security Benefits. That money belongs to seniors, not the government. They paid into the system for a lifetime, and they should be free to spend every penny as they see fit. Pass H.R. 192 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 increase in taxes on Social Security benefits. Accelerate Depreciation on Investment. We need to help companies grow and create jobs. Pass H.R. 4995 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reduce corporate marginal income tax rates. Eliminate Taxes on Capital Gains. Investment should be embraced and rewarded. Pass H.J. Res 23 (The Liberty Amendment), proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens. Eliminate Taxes on Tips.The single parents and working students who earn their income chiefly through tips deserve to keep all of their money. This tax on estimated income is unfair and should be ended. Pass H.R. 3664 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide that tips shall not be subject to income or employment taxes. Support the Mortgage Cancellation Relief Act. Working families who lost their homes should not be punished a second time with a big IRS bill. Pass H.R. 1876 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from the gross income of individual taxpayers discharges of indebtedness attributable to certain forgiven residential mortgage obligations. 2. Spending Reform Reduce Overseas Military Commitments. Our bases and troops should be on our soil. It's time to stop subsidizing our trading partners in Europe, Japan and South Korea. Freeze Non-Defense, Non-Entitlement Spending at Current Levels I vote against all bloated, pork laden spending bills and will veto them as president. 3. Monetary Policy Reform Televise Federal Open Market Committee Meetings. An institution as powerful as the Federal Reserve deserves full public scrutiny. Expand Transparency and Accountability at the Federal Reserve Pass H.R. 2754 to require the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to continue to make available to the public on a weekly basis information on the measure of the M3 monetary aggregate and its components. Return Value to Our Money. Legalize gold and silver as a competing currency. Level the long-term boom and bust business cycle by passing H.R. 4683, which would repeal provisions of the federal criminal code relating to issuing coins of gold, silver, or other metal for use as current money and making or possessing likenesses of such coins. 4. Regulatory Reform Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley. It has seriously wounded our capital markets and helped make the UK a financial center at our expense. Ending these misguided regulations would bring jobs flooding back to the United States Pass H.R. 1049 to reform Sarbanes-Oxley and reduce the burden it places on small businesses. Repeal or Remove Costly and Unnecessary Federal Regulations. Neighbors know best how to help their neighbors. We need to make it easier for community banks, credit unions, and other financial institutions to better serve their communities and to help people in these communities get access to credit and capital. Pass H.R. 1869 to enhance the ability of community banks to foster economic growth and serve their communities, boost small businesses, increase individual savings, and for other purposes. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/Prosperity OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Seeking the God can take a joke
In 2001 a Mother Divine sent me a great piece about how God can take a joke and appreciates if you leave one as well. It was great. I Googled and can't find where she got it and I guess I had a disk crash and lost her email. Perhaps it'll come to me in program. There only thing I've been able to Google is very, very true to me: God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. Voltaire French author, humanist, rationalist, satirist (1694 - 1778) Once you lose fear you get the jokes and you laugh and laugh and laugh.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
Vajyou have hurt my faith in humankind's intellegent potentialsince I fully intend to gather all research -- for, or against TM -- that is published in peer-reviewed respected scientific journals, since I AM THE ONLY RATIONALIST on FFL... ...the rest of you are Bush/Rove/Cheney lookalikes, that are like flacid-cock-licking_turdmen, wether you are for TM or against itIf you support it, or agianst, without validation in peer- reviewed respected scientific journals...more than 5 verified related studies published. YOU ALL are reptiles and worms who do not stand with me on thisand you anti-science freaks will fall... and we shall rise. Only research published in peer-reviewed respected scientific journals will be considered valid in the 20th century. The rest belong in the dustbin of history.unless of course you want to take us back to the dark ages, like GW Bush and Osama Bin Laden do. Sorry Vaj...let me know when you have research published in peer- reviewed respected scientific journals. Maharish has hundreds of them. Get a life boy. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 5:34 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg. In which peer-reviewed respected scientific journal was this published? The textbook and research compendium Consciousness and Self- Regulation: Advances in Research and Theory, Volume 3. Edited by Richard J. Davidson (SUNY), Gary E. Schwartz (Yale U.) and David Shapiro (UCLA). ...this series is of considerable importance for professionals and students in clinical, social and cognitive psychology. - Contemporary Psychology lol, get a life Vaj. Thanks Off, but I already have one.
[FairfieldLife] Video on David Lynch, TM, and Maharishi
This is a video, just posted on YouTube, that was made to honor David Lynch on his last visit at MUM, and also shown at MERU, Holland, on the occasion of David¹s birthday. HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHCirfmZus; \nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHCirfmZus Easily watch the Maharishi Channel on your computer any time day or night. Clear streaming audio and video: HYPERLINK http://www.globalcountry.org/EasyWeb.asp?pcpid=43; \nhttp://www.globalcountry.org/EasyWeb.asp?pcpid=43 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1242 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 8:32 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: The Uniqueness Lie: Exposing the Lies of TM research, one at a time. The uniqueness lie and the hypometabolic lie. Question: Does TM, as is still touted in TM tracts, produce a hypometabolic state, i.e a 16% drop in oxygen consumption? Answer: No. 3 groups of 9 TM meditators were studied to see if the claim of 16% decrease in oxygen consumption could be replicated. The sample included both males and females and novice as well as long-term TMers. Researchers found TM did not produce Wallace's claims of -16% O2 consumption. Researchers Pagano and Warrenburg instead found the following: As one reviews the data...the outstanding features are the similarity of and relatively small changes in VO2 which occurred during practice of TM...The 4% decrease in VO2 found during treatment for the TM group is considerably less than Wallace's reported 16% decrease and calls into question his claim that the state produced by TM is hypometabolic. Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. Robert R. Pagano and Stephen Warrenburg. But the idiom of today is science. So since we can't tie them up and flog them like the missionaries did until they embraced TM, woo them with badly controlled studies which demonstrate, not double blind random control group studies which prove. They'll never know the difference. And it's cheaper and we get more amazing results. And yet no science published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals to prove your pathetic medieval rantings. How sad for you. The pain you feel at this will pass though, and you will one day feel like the old father at the end of the movie Billy Elliot when he first visits London to see his son dance in the Opera...watch it and you will understand who you are. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Actually the researchers in this case feel they know how the TMO flubbed the data. Any guesses what they came up with? I don't remember this case specifically, but was it because of the failure to establish a baseline? Metabolic rates vary tremendously in an individual. And even though you have never seen the refutation of it published in a peer-reviewed respected scientific journal, you swallow it hook, line, and sinker, like the guppe you arehow pathetic Only research published in peer-reviewed respected scientific journals has any validity in the 21st century...this stuff the snakeoil-salesman Vaj is peddling has never been near such a place. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeking the God can take a joke
--tahnks for the Voltaire quote. Here's some words of wisdom from Friedrich Nietzsche: Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2001 a Mother Divine sent me a great piece about how God can take a joke and appreciates if you leave one as well. It was great. I Googled and can't find where she got it and I guess I had a disk crash and lost her email. Perhaps it'll come to me in program. There only thing I've been able to Google is very, very true to me: God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. Voltaire French author, humanist, rationalist, satirist (1694 - 1778) Once you lose fear you get the jokes and you laugh and laugh and laugh.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:50 PM, sandiego108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:24 PM, sandiego108 wrote: maybe you could ask all those Buddhist monks who just started TM... (msg# 162047) Hi Jim: It's an old recycled message. A digital TMO tract, if you will. Someone (not me) already debunked it a while back. It made me smile, I hope it did for you too. Can you point me to the debunking please? This is a recent article, stating that over 3100 Buddhist monks are practicing TM, and learning how to transcend as a result. I'm sorry Jim, I do not keep such arduous attention to the past, let alone my own. Playing dodgeball again sir? I'll take your refusal to answer as confirmation that over 3100 Buddhists have learned TM from their Buddhist master. Its OK if you want to continue denying it- enjoy your evening please.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM produce a Hypometabolic State?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:08 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: --TM is far superior to anything that Vaj's Guru Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has to offer. Not all Enlightened Masters are good teachers. He's one of the mediocre ones. Perhaps for some who prefer supermarket mind. I'm sorry--I'm not one of them! You are the only one here- no one else talking about supermarket mind. Don't you see? You are the only one here. Look around. All you. No them. You are the only one with supermarket mind. It is inside you. You are it. No one else here. Goodnight.
