[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick: What will you tell Amma?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TRANSLATION by OFF WORLD BELOW: There are some indications of children being recruited as combatants by non-state armed groups, such as insurgency organisations. Translation: Some of the destitute and oppressed Iraqis whose lives and families were completely ruined by the American Shock and Awe and the subsequent unprofessional mess the Americans createdare sick of it and are fighting for their lives against the Americans. A recent concern is the reported new tactic by insurgent group militias, al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda affiliated groups, of using children as decoys in suicide car bombings. Translation: American troops can no longer shoot everything in sight like they did in Fallujah and Mosel in their murderous arrogant rampages of the past, and have to try to not shoot children when dealing with disgrunteled and desperate Iraqis who are now living in a nightmare worse than being bombed back to the stoneage which American grunts and people like WillyTex shouted for in year past. Due to ongoing security operations under the Baghdad Security Plan Translation: Due to the ongoing struggling military crackdown which Bush etc. affectionately call 'the surge' , and which is nothing other than an extreme military crakdown like in Bhurma for example... as well as the increasing use of children by insurgents, the number of children, ages between 12 and 17 years, in MNF-I detention has significantly increased from less than 300 in December 2006 to almost 800 in August 2007, with some 30 children alleged to be active insurgents Translation:... the result of this military crackdown by the Americans is that the Americans have to find provocative excuses to feed to the world and the UN (a World body which previously Bush et al spat in the UN's face and then shit upon international law) for their failures in this quagmire that will drag their country into oblivion, and the Iraqis, which they like to call terrorists and insurgents, have no choice but to fight in this hellhole that the Americans created for them to live in, thus the innevitable children involvement that this brings...something which the American overlords had no problem with when they killed and maimed tens of thousands of children in their shock and awe and ensuing chase of Iraqis in cities such as Fallujah and Mosel, etc. Now the Iraqis are fighting back and people like Willytex, John McInsane, and Ted Haggard have lost their minds. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Addicted To Righteous Anger (was War Monger is attacking us again and again)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone (among the 5-6 of you who bother to read my posts, that is) remember the series of posts I made about righteous anger No, they were very unmemorable post Turq., and nobody remembers them OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Addicted To Righteous Anger (was War Monger is attacking us again and again)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq, as one of the elite Do you mean you are elite or elitist, or just dumb enough to be taken in by Turq's BS? OffWorld that make up the small class of your readers, I thought that your posts on the addiction to righteous anger insightful and valuable; I'm reminded of it everyday I read FFL. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Does anyone (among the 5-6 of you who bother to read my posts, that is) remember the series of posts I made about righteous anger, and how people seem to be able to become addicted to it? Something -- possibly even the post below that I only needed to read the first line of to realize that it fell into the Next past category, decided to hit Reply to instead, *still* without having read it -- brought the subject up for me again. What is *missing* in some people's lives that the only emotion they seem to be able to surf consis- tently is righteous anger? What is it about the emotion of righteous anger itself that seems to convince these people that the emotion they're surfing is actually righteous? What is it that allows these people to do unto others, and with some frequency, the same thing that pushes their buttons and drives them over the...uh...edge into not only madness, but madness that persists for days and days and days and sometimes weeks and weeks and weeks and even months and...you get the picture. There are some cool things that come up on this board. Some folks here are cool enough themselves to only invest their time in replying to the cool ones. They allow the hot ones -- the obvious trolls -- to be handled by those who like to live in the mindstate of righteous anger. Maybe these trolls -- and those who compulsively respond to them -- serve a cosmic purpose. The fact that they're consistently willing to wallow in shit means that we don't have to, that sorta thing. Maybe. Maybe they actually *get off* on this wallowing. I don't really know. All I know is that in the psychic duel that Edg visu- alizes as taking place between him and Willytex, Willy is winning. Willy *owns* Edg's ass. He can make him do anything he wants. And on some strange cosmic level, Edg actually enjoys this masochist tango, being led around by the nose like this, being forced to wallow in shit of his own making. Synergy. Go figure. Some people's children. And all that... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: War Monger, you utterly vile scum, Are you really so deeply into the dark side that you're now trying to get our group's minds here to think of Arab children as terrorists? With the below post, you show yourself to be a scurrilous propagandist and culture raper as diseased as Karl Rove. There's thousands upon thousands of good-hearted actions of Arab children in Iraq today and every single day, but you send to us the below to try to skew our minds into paranoia and blind murderous racism. You are such a fucking lost soul. Stop eating. Die. What a piece of shit you are to be so openly espousing the killing of children for profit and using your intellect to spin, obfuscate, deny, ignore, and abuse TRUTH. You are the equivalent of a pedophile priest -- you quote scriptures, pose as a teacher of great scholarship, but you're just trying to find ways to get others to be racists-that-love-raping third world children with bullets instead of erections. Truly, you are one sick fuck to spew so relentlessly your MINDFUL evil psychic pus with such an arrogant intent to harm our FFL spiritual community. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Sal wrote: ...stop responding and he's bound to either go away or at least not post so much. There are some indications of children being recruited as combatants by non-state armed groups, such as insurgency organisations. A recent concern is the reported new tactic by insurgent group militias, al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda affiliated groups, of using children as decoys in suicide car bombings. Due to ongoing security operations under the Baghdad Security Plan as well as the increasing use of children by insurgents, the number of children, ages between 12 and 17 years, in MNF-I detention has significantly increased from less than 300 in December 2006 to almost 800 in August 2007, with some 30 children alleged to be active insurgents. Read more: 'Children and Armed Conflict' Report of the Secretary General http://www.un.org/children/conflict/english/iraq.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fasting to death is a holy rite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You disgusting, offensive, contemptible, depraved, lying shit. How dare you portray me as a supporter of partial birth abortions when I'm on record here being against it. I think Willytex is a partial birth abortion, but that is not his fault. OffWorld Slanderer! Edg In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Ed wrote: All your hatred must be lashing your soul with an excruciating pain that you deny but even now you feel. Ed, get a grip! There are 4,000-5,000 partial birth abortions per year in the United States. This number dwarfs the number of children killed in Iraq due to the war against the terrorists. The number of child deaths in Iraq has been reduced since the coalition forces invaded Iraq. In contrast, over half of the world's child deaths occur in Africa, where the U.S. HAS NO FORCES. For you to sit back and allow partial birth abortion is a moral and ethical lapse on your part. Partial birth abortion is a gruesome and inhumane procedure and should be prohibited. Apparently you voted for a candidate who refused to sign the Partial Birth Abortion Ban! What's up with that? You are really mixed up in the head. The U.S. are the good guys Ed, wake up and smell the coffee! John Kerry and Hillary Clinton aren't baby-killers because that voted to send in troops to Iraq to try and save the children - don't be a sycophant. It takes a village. Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act: http://tinyurl.com/lkosa The Partial Birth Abortion Ban: http://tinyurl.com/2u386n
[FairfieldLife] Re: More blue than purple
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Somebody is reading this, right? :-) Most definitely. It was just a joke, Tom. I was in a parody mood last night and couldn't restrain myself. :-) There have been several posts lately that seemingly lament a lack of readership. Ahem. The parody had to do with a certain someone who is on a posting binge demanding not only that people read his tirades (not likely given their content) but agree with them. It is quite possible that many do not respond for various reasons. Not least of which is that the Yahoo Web browser seems to be on a binge of its own these days, and is tough to even read with, much less reply with. At least for some of us who are unlucky enough to connect via the Yahoo server that is under the weather. It took almost five minutes for this Reply window to come up so that I could reply to your post. Inveterate lurkers are a stubborn bunch. The tendency to do a right on or a me tooism is strong enough in many, myself included, to make for a very boring read. A snarky quick response is, on occasion, hard to contain when provoked by certain trolls. Mea culpa. :-) Your Willin post and parody was priceless and brought back a flood of memories both near and distant. It was just for fun; hope it provoked some. I really was...uh...kiddin' about the Is anyone out there post. I'm such a solipcist that I'd probably post even if no one was. :-) I hope rest is given to Lowell George's troubled soul. He brought a lot of joy to a lot of folks with music. One version of the legend is that Willin got him kicked out of The Mothers Of Invention. Frank Zappa had some strict rules about drug references in songs. Frank had his convictions and draconian was his answer. That's interesting; I never knew that Lowell was once a part of the Mothers. I knew a couple of guys who were -- the ex-Turtles, known as the Fluorescent Leech and Eddie -- and they told a few stories about Frank and his Konhaus-like rule. During a long winding trip thru some western states this summer past, I found myself in Tucumcari. Being in an especially spiritual mood, I found a truck stop to gas up and belted out the song to the moon.. quite sure it was heard in parts of Oklahoma and Texas. grin Your version, had I know it, would have fit the bill well. What occasioned the memory of the song in me was dropping in to my local Cine Cafe here in Sitges. It's run by a couple of really sweet English guys who have an enormous collection of movie memora- bilia and who show movies three times a day up on their big screen in the cafe. The film The Abyss was playing, and there is a scene where the rough crew of this underwater research station was all singing along with the song. It was a very happy moment, and I couldn't help but sing along. The next day, I was still singing it in my head while reading FFL, and the link appeared between being still willin' and still seekin.' However scathing a few of the one-liners in my version might have been, they do not diminish my respect for those who -- after all these years and life- times on the road -- ARE still seekin.' I still lived in L.A. when Lowell died, and went to the benefit concert that his friends threw to raise money for Lowell's family, who had been left a tad unprovided for. The friends included Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne, and members of the Eagles. It was a *fine* concert, full of tears and laughter both onstage and in the audience -- a bunch of people who had loved a wildman and were wishing him well on his way. Music is the universal language. It is interesting how many Bruce Cockburn fans are found on this board. A professor at my University turned me on to him when we were flipping a frisbee and burning ropebeen a favorite ever since. Ah, the 70's. The amazing thing about Bruce is that he's still seekin', too. Still on his nominal path as a Chris- tian, but still open to useful information no matter what path it comes from. He's just returned from a trip to Nepal, and I expect some really good songs to emerge from *his* road trip. The whole concept of the Road Trip appeals to me. It's such a liberating feeling, being out on the road, late at night, just you and the white line that leads you on your Way. Many songwriters (Bruce, Lowell) and prose writers (Kerouac, Homer) have written eloquently about the inspiring and near-epic nature of the Road Trip. It's a potent metaphor for the I would wager that many more read these posts than you would imagine, but respond only internally. That's appropriate, because I write them internally. I don't type; they just appear magically onscreen as a result of my highly-developed ritam, and all I have to do is press Send. :-) Not. I received a couple of emails after a prior post, on the side, from people in my
[FairfieldLife] Re: Open letter to raja John Konhaus other rajas and leaders of TM movement
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have objected again and received following threat: You are lucky. I did not realize till now but I am not the Raja of your county. You are lucky I'm not your Raja sonny or I'd cut me a hickory switch and turn you over my knee. I would whip ya till yer cheeks glowed like Surya see, then I'd rub ghee over your cheeks to cool the pitta and rub it in good so your bottom would glow like Chandra on Guru Purnima. Then I'd strap you onto a shiridara table and oil board you. Sesame oil dripped onto a silk handkerchief over your mouth till you pledged allegiance to the authority of the mighty Rajas. Next come the bhastis... Curtis now officially owesthe French company I work for a new Dell laptop. Theabove made me spew myvirgin pina colada outall over the screen and keyboard and nowmy space key sticks. Reading you two makes me glad that I have an iSkin for my keyboard. Saved me a lot of dough on new keyboards. http://tinyurl.com/38tm9g An iSkin? Sounds like a new brand of condom. I guess in a way it is: Practice safe ranting; sheath your weapon. :-) I wonder what happened to Ruth. Hope she just is just busy with work and life and that the negativity her last posts were met with did not chase her away. Indeed. I suspect that the tendency here to damn the individual because one doesn't agree with what they are saying is a bit of a shocker. She has a good heart and great spirit and added to this board. Indeed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breakthrough on Maharishi's Jyotish!
hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of when Dogbert was asked if astrology can help businesses succeed:- If you haven't worked out that astrology is a load of rubbish you probably shouldn't be making your own decisions, in which case randomness is your best bet Classic. more where that came from: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dilbert#Sourced
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
Black Hand (Serbian: Црна рука / Crna Ruka), officially Unification or Death (Serbian: Уједињење или смрт / Ujedinjenje ili smrt), was a secret society founded in Serbia in May 1911, this society's possible connections to the June 28, 1914 assassination in Sarajevo of Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria is considered to have been the main catalyst to the start of World War I. Ohhh you got me! Yes, Franz Ferdinand was a king killed by the Serbs. Do you see conection? Due to my bad reputation I am going around killing kings. My father was Croatian Serb, my mother is Croatian, I am living in Croatia. Is that relevant for someone? Maybe for such people who were creating war during 90' in ex-yugoslavia. During war on Kosovo I picked up 30 people in small bus and with help of others we were runing Dubrovnik Peace Project for 2 years. That is something what one political Serb would never did - to fight for peace on Kosovo. I concerne myself as someone without feeling of patriotism of any kind.
[FairfieldLife] Bruce Cockburn interview
For Stu, Tom, Vaj, and others who might be interested, here's an interview with Bruce. He raps about food and sustainable growing, his work with the Unitarian Service Committee including his recent trip to Nepal, what he did with his first royalty check, the songwriting process, and other interesting stuff. It's always uplifting for me to hear someone who really walks the walk of his spiritual talk. Requires RealPlayer or something that plays .rm files: rtsp://media.cbc.ca/cbc.ca/mainstreetns/media/20080310Full_Cockburn_152814.rm or http://tinyurl.com/yq4ms6
[FairfieldLife] Make an indelible impression on the world
Go to: http://www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/ Enter your first name on the first line. Enter the name of someone kissable on the second line. Click Vizualazar. Enjoy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] From a recertified Governor - From the heart to you
In the meantime, I've been following the thread on John Konhaus' email responses to the Serb's emails, and the truth of this interchange is very important to me because it speaks volumes concerning whether or not I can continue being an active part of any organization under such leaders. As I see it, the truth of this whole Konhaus/Serb interchange would be revealed if the Serb could post the complete, unaltered email messages between himself and supposedly Konhaus. According to my understanding, emails that are forwarded cannot be altered therefore all of us will have the chance to see the original emails. In following the thread, no one has suggested this as yet. Dear unanimous, I made an effort and expose myself to danger contacting wild, criminal, killing-king Serb. He told me that is irrelevant what was in the letters between him/Serb and Konhaus. He said that this was not a curt case so that evidences should be presented. Open letter was an act of resignation from the movement on the basis of his PERSONAL impression on Konhaus attitude. Are people making resignation from movement on the basis of fantasies? What do you think? What are your experiences? How many people left the movement? Do they need to present their evidences here? Wild, criminal, killing-king Serb said IT WAS A PERSONAL ACT! It is not the matter of Konhous, it is the matter of him/Serb who wanted to stop his PERSONALY agony with that organization. Is that enough? You are expecting that he/Serb show his correspondence but you don't want show up your name and face. If you want to see his/Serbs correspondence you can personally contact him he has an e-mail address thanks God! But be careful take some weapon to protect yourself in case... :-) Zoran
[FairfieldLife] 'The Demented Court of the Clinton's'
President Eisenhower, having seen the aftermath of WWII... Where General Patton threw up at the holocaust camps... All the soldiers and all the Germans were witnessed, by Ike. Ike knew the result of the German experience, as he was by heritage- German. Germany is now a pacifist country, as well as Japan. But, since WWII, and 1945, and the Atomic bomb... So, since the experience in Viet Nam, The American dilemma has been: what is our place in this world. Is it to create wars, or is it to promote peace... Do we ally ourselves with policies which promote fear, Or do we evolve and heal our prejudices and our limited cynical thinking. LBJ made us cynical. So, did Richard Nixon. When does it end. It's getting ridiculous. We've been disappointed so many times, since the death of the hero's of the sixties... The latest hunk a, hunk a burning' cynics- the same old people- James Carville, The demented (Court of the Clintons) their legions of Cohorts Disgusting and Sickening - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor - From the heart to you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unidentified and we understand why Recert: In the meantime, I've been following the thread on John Konhaus' email responses to the Serb's emails, and the truth of this interchange is very important to me because it speaks volumes concerning whether or not I can continue being an active part of any organization under such leaders. While I commiserate, and applaud, doncha think that on another level it's a tad LATE to start noticing the qualities of the TMO's leaders, not to mention how far under them you are, and have been for a long time? As we are seeing in these days following Maharishi's death, there are a lot of people who *put off* think- ing about such things out of respect and devotion to him *until* he died. These outrages are not new; the draconian pronouncements imposed on other TMers and TM teachers are not new. They have been going on for *decades*. Is it only now that you are able to be concerned about them? As I see it, the truth of this whole Konhaus/Serb interchange would be revealed if the Serb could post the complete, unaltered email messages between himself and supposedly Konhaus. According to my understanding, emails that are forwarded cannot be altered therefore all of us will have the chance to see the original emails. In following the thread, no one has suggested this as yet. With all due respect, most of us here who are not only familiar with Zoran from his posts here on FFL but with the type of abuse from TM leaders that he's talking about really don't *need* to see the forwarded emails. We've seen Konhaus and others go off the deep end before, and this story seems not only plausible but highly likely. Look around on this forum. There are other true-blue TM supporters here, none of whom (to their credit) rushed in to *discredit* Zoran and call him a liar the way Nablus did. That's just the way that Nablus thinks -- when he encounters some statement about Maharishi, TM, or the TMO that he doesn't like, he hops in his leaky boat and heads up denial (a pun on the Nile for Zoran) without a paddle. Nabby feels that Zoran's story is *not believable*. On the other hand, being a devotee of Benny Hill... uh, sorry...Benjamin Creme, Nabby has *no trouble* believing in Space Brothers from the stars and a mysterious world savior named Maitreya who will appear at any moment and speak to all the peoples of the earth in their own language, and will pull our collective bacon out of the fire. :-) In short, Nabby's a fanatic. I've been allowing him to rave without commentary, because HE is the best commentary that anyone could possibly make about the fanaticism of the true-blue TMer. He will do *anything* to avoid dealing with reality, will call *anyone* a liar or a paid CIA propagandist rather than accepting the simple truth -- that his alleg- iances lie with an organization, and with leaders of that organization, who left their humanity behind them decades ago, and are hardly fit to walk on planet Earth, much less rule it. In contrast, examine how Zoran reacts to this hit against him and these slurs against not only his gene pool but his integrity. He does what the vast majority of TMers should have done decades ago, and LAUGHS at these fanatics in denial. Dear unanimous, I made an effort and expose myself to danger contacting wild, criminal, killing-king Serb. Zoran, please note that few here besides Nabby hold you personally responsible for starting World War I. :-) He told me that is irrelevant what was in the letters between him/Serb and Konhaus. He said that this was not a curt case so that evidences should be presented. Open letter was an act of resignation from the movement on the basis of his PERSONAL impression on Konhaus attitude. Are people making resignation from movement on the basis of fantasies? A good question, and one that I'm sure Nabby will answer Yes to. That's how they hold onto their own fragile and shaky hopes and beliefs, by think- ing that anyone who rejects them is crazy, and acting out of unstressing or fantasy. What do you think? What are your experiences? This is really the bottom line. For some, their experiences with the authoritarian control freaks whom Maharishi has placed in positions of power don't really sink their boat of hope. They prefer to carry on and ignore these outrages the way they were told to. Me, I think that they're being fool- ish, but it's their decision, not mine. Others looked at their own experiences and WALKED AWAY from this cesspool of hypocrisy. I identify more with them. How many people left the movement? Do they need to present their evidences here? Hopefully a few of them will. Wild, criminal, killing-king Serb said IT WAS A PERSONAL ACT! But wild, criminal, king-killing Serb is Off The Program and unstressing, don't you see? Nothing he says can be taken seriously. THAT
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor - From the heart to you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't. They're puny little pissants who haven't had a mind of their own in decades, and resent anyone who has one. Oh well. Still after Turq left the Movement more than 30 years ago he comes up with all this strong emotions. He will not admit it ofcourse now that he is a Buddhist and all, but Maharishi must have created an everlasting impression on his soul. That the Turq does not see it reasonable for Zoran to come up with the e-mails that would reveal if Konhaus said anything unappropiate, and thus clear Zoran of the doubt of being a liar is not surprising. This place is created for just that: Throw out any rumour, any claim however wild. If it's aim is to try to cast a shadow on the Movement it is all right. Nobody will ask you for any shred of evidence, and if they do, simply do as Zoran; sit still, pretend you did not read it and hope it goes away. It will, because FFL is for the most, populated with souls of the same caliber.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Hillary Scapegoats the 'Cute Black Boy'...
Have we given Jews the right to vote? Oh my, what is this country becoming. Where is a Raja when you need one! --- Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'How dare he stand in the way of Hillary Clinton, the girls rage on... Hillary finally found a good 'hit woman'... Hitting bottom, maybe. Advocating for racism... What an irony for the Clinton's... To be labeled racist. The final ugly chapter in their political history. So, I guess this is the dark side for real. Hidden for all those years, behind the need for power, and lust. The Jewish vote is the other racist card, I expect them to play. That one will be slightly more subtle. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
Bhairitu wrote: What TM teacher training course did you graduate from? You only need to attend one single TM introductory lecture to know that there's no mantra angle mentioned. And you only need one single advanced technique to know that you only get one single bij mantra for TM practice. If you had attended either of these you would already know this. What TM teacher training course did you graduate from? Bhairitu wrote: In the intro lecture we even described these dips or the vertical descent. Richard J. Williams wrote: There's no mention of a angle of the mantra in a TM introductory lecture. Did you make that up? If so then you were not teaching TM. You only get one mantra in TM instruction. There are no advanced technique bija mantras. The added phrases in advanced techniques, such as Shree and Namah, are just Sanskrit words, not bija mantras. The mystic syllable OM is not considered to be a bija mantra.
[FairfieldLife] 'Hillary Scapegoats the 'Cute Black Boy'...
'How dare he stand in the way of Hillary Clinton, the girls rage on... Hillary finally found a good 'hit woman'... Hitting bottom, maybe. Advocating for racism... What an irony for the Clinton's... To be labeled racist. The final ugly chapter in their political history. So, I guess this is the dark side for real. Hidden for all those years, behind the need for power, and lust. The Jewish vote is the other racist card, I expect them to play. That one will be slightly more subtle. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
Phat!: (pronounced 'fot') phoneme; Buddhist Hybrid-Sanskrit; causative verb? 1. Crack! 2. Snap! 3. Pop! 4. Meaningless sound. 5. Gibberish. 6. Bija mantra - sometimes referred to as the weapon mantra also, in that, it destroys obstacles. 7. Sound of a two-stroked motor vehicle seen all over Delhi. Vaj wrote: It's an aspirated P silly Willy. :-) That's what I said, silly Vaj, 'fot'; but you neglected to mention the left-handed finger snap, which is the essense of the astral weapon mantra 'phat'. What's up with that? Mahnirvana Tantra, 5.90, 92: http://tinyurl.com/36slch 1 phaT ind. (onom.) crack! VS. AV. TA1r. (also a mystical syllable used in incantation). 2 phat ind. , an interjection (in %{phat-kR} , prob. w.r. for %{phuT-kR}). 3 phAT ind. an interjection of calling W. Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche Salutation to the Wine Devi: Vaushat: http://www.sacred-texts.com/tantra/maha/maha05.htm Phat is the astral or weapon mantra: http://www.sacred-texts.com/tantra/htg/htg11.htm#fn_331
[FairfieldLife] Mark Morford's Column 3.12.08 -- Worth Reading (as usual)
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Padmasana, best posture for serious aspirants.
Billy wrote: Interesting, I didn't know that is why SBS sat in that asana using that mudra. The term mudra is often translated as 'to seal'. One explanation of 'to seal' is that mudra comes from a joining of mud - bliss and dhra - dissolving - thus mudra is that which dissolves duality and brings together deity and devotee. Read more: 'Elements of Puja' by Kalkinath http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/tt_elementspuja.html Billy wrote: MMY doesn't stress the importance of this posture because TM is Yoga-lite for modernity! Maybe so, Billy, but most people only need Yoga-lite, so TM is perfect for their practice. Only yogis need to aspire to perfect posture. Most people don't have time to practice yoga postures all day like you do. All they need to do is practice the auspicious hand sign when they sit for meditation. Attempting to sit in a particular posture will tend to keep the mind on the conscious thinking level and may actually be a hindrance to transcending. The auspicious hand-sign in Sanskrit literature is refered to as the symbol of wisdom or the mark of the I conciousness, which represents Knowing That I am, or Knowing That I know. Read more: 'The Auspicious Handsign' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/brahmanand.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ruthsimplicity, was: Open letter to raja John Konhaus other rajas and leader
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Open letter to raja John Konhaus other rajas and leaders of TM movement I wonder what happened to Ruth. Hope she just is just busy with work and life and that the negativity her last posts were met with did not chase her away. She has a good heart and great spirit and added to this board. I'm afraid she did unsubscribe a while back. I'm sorry to hear that. She was great.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phat!: (pronounced 'fot') phoneme; Buddhist Hybrid-Sanskrit; causative verb? 1. Crack! 2. Snap! 3. Pop! 4. Meaningless sound. 5. Gibberish. 6. Bija mantra - sometimes referred to as the weapon mantra also, in that, it destroys obstacles. 7. Sound of a two-stroked motor vehicle seen all over Delhi. Vaj wrote: It's an aspirated P silly Willy. :-) That's what I said, silly Vaj, 'fot'; but you neglected to mention the left-handed finger snap, which is the essense of the astral weapon mantra 'phat'. What's up with that? ROTFLMAO! Mahnirvana Tantra, 5.90, 92: http://tinyurl.com/36slch 1 phaT ind. (onom.) crack! VS. AV. TA1r. (also a mystical syllable used in incantation). 2 phat ind. , an interjection (in %{phat-kR} , prob. w.r. for %{phuT-kR}). 3 phAT ind. an interjection of calling W. Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche Salutation to the Wine Devi: Vaushat: http://www.sacred-texts.com/tantra/maha/maha05.htm Phat is the astral or weapon mantra: http://www.sacred-texts.com/tantra/htg/htg11.htm#fn_331
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, I am sharing this with you because I feel that I can trust you to protect my identity. I have enjoyed lurking on the FairfieldLife group and have hesitated in joining primarily because I feel that my identity must be protected as a recertified governor. Jai Guru Dev Hi Mr. Jai Guru Dev: No worries, Shempgurkin has at least 5 identities, and I have only one identity for 3 halflings. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Rick Archer wrote: On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Rick Archer wrote: n the meantime, I've been following the thread on John Konhaus' email responses to the Serb's emails, and the truth of this interchange is very important to me because it speaks volumes concerning whether or not I can continue being an active part of any organization under such leaders. As I see it, the truth of this whole Konhaus/Serb interchange would be revealed if the Serb could post the complete, unaltered email messages between himself and supposedly Konhaus. The Serb--LOL. Geez, Rick, I don't blame this guy for wanting to keep his identity secret. Is he for real? Yes. He emailed me with his real name, but wants to remain anonymous, for obvious reasons. Well, that really wasn't what I was asking--it was a rhetorical question pertaining to the somewhat unusual way he kept referring to Zoran. (Slang, IOW. I'm a little surprised that didn't come across.) I don't have a problem with someone choosing to remain anonymous, obviously. Is that last sentence a rhetorical question Sal? I can't tell, so how am I supposed to answer it? OffWorld Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor - From the heart to you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the meantime, I've been following the thread on John Konhaus' email responses to the Serb's emails, and the truth of this interchange is very important to me because it speaks volumes concerning whether or not I can continue being an active part of any organization under such leaders. John Konhaus is probably just another one of Shemp's many identities. OffWorld As I see it, the truth of this whole Konhaus/Serb interchange would be revealed if the Serb could post the complete, unaltered email messages between himself and supposedly Konhaus. According to my understanding, emails that are forwarded cannot be altered therefore all of us will have the chance to see the original emails. In following the thread, no one has suggested this as yet. Dear unanimous, I made an effort and expose myself to danger contacting wild, criminal, killing-king Serb. He told me that is irrelevant what was in the letters between him/Serb and Konhaus. He said that this was not a curt case so that evidences should be presented. Open letter was an act of resignation from the movement on the basis of his PERSONAL impression on Konhaus attitude. Are people making resignation from movement on the basis of fantasies? What do you think? What are your experiences? How many people left the movement? Do they need to present their evidences here? Wild, criminal, killing-king Serb said IT WAS A PERSONAL ACT! It is not the matter of Konhous, it is the matter of him/Serb who wanted to stop his PERSONALY agony with that organization. Is that enough? You are expecting that he/Serb show his correspondence but you don't want show up your name and face. If you want to see his/Serbs correspondence you can personally contact him he has an e-mail address thanks God! But be careful take some weapon to protect yourself in case... :-) Zoran
[FairfieldLife] The Pentagon Flyover - How They Pulled It Off, investigative doco 1 hr. 40 min
Bhairitu, have you seen this? Lemme know what you think. a http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8176286327617173136 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] David Mamet compares Bush to Kennedy
Bush got us into Iraq, JFK into Vietnam. Bush stole the election in Florida; Kennedy stole his in Chicago. Bush outed a CIA agent; Kennedy left hundreds of them to die in the surf at the Bay of Pigs. Bush lied about his military service; Kennedy accepted a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorenson. Bush was in bed with the Saudis, Kennedy with the Mafia. Oh. From: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0811,374064,374064,1.html
[FairfieldLife] David Mamet on corporations
from the same previously linked article: And I began to question my hatred for 'the Corporations'the hatred of which, I found, was but the flip side of my hunger for those goods and services they provide and without which we could not live. Barfitu in particular would do well to contemplate Mamet's words.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breakthrough on Maharishi's Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: Reminds me of when Dogbert was asked if astrology can help businesses succeed:- If you haven't worked out that astrology is a load of rubbish you probably shouldn't be making your own decisions, in which case randomness is your best bet Classic. more where that came from: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dilbert#Sourced Hey I almost remembered it right!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
Thanks for that. Really nice hearing what Bruce has to say. If you want to read a great book about the current state of our food supply you may want to read Michael Polen's Omnivores Delight. s.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that. Really nice hearing what Bruce has to say. If you want to read a great book about the current state of our food supply you may want to read Michael Polen's Omnivores Delight. s. It is The Ominvore's Dilemma, by Michael Pollan. i agree, excellent book a sis his newest, In Defense of Food.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
Since the Absolute is always there, the experience of a blackout is, er, go figure, AN EXPERIENCE OF THE ABSOLUTE. Since no memory can be dredged up about the experience, it could only be the Absolute that was present. Get that? Nothing is what was experienced. No thing. Not even awareness, not even amness. Sorry to tell ya TBs and bliss seekers, but that's the actual real deal bottomline goal of goals. Consult your local Buddhist about the void. It is that no-thingness that will be discovered to be the only identity one has ever had. The rest is a dross of verbiage floating on the illusion of consciousness. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, endlessrainintoapapercup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk said: Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in their nervous system (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full awakening. What exactly causes these alleged blocks? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: That vampired look I have determined comes from squeezing the eyes shut for many hours a day which gives a person bruises under their eyes (dark circles) and also from the lack of sunlight. I used to look like that from rounding. Most people do at some point. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: I don't know what type of experience you are talking about, matrixmonitor...I'm only addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If transcendence isn't conscious, how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists? My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not intended to reflect TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I described, of pure consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing deeper and deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but other meditation traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM produces conscious transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me. Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the makara-bindu and open the eye of knowledge, the third eye as the TM puja mentions, most TMers will just languish in a laya-samadhi. The techniques to actually awaken awareness there aren't taught in TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to awaken so highly, it just doesn't happen. Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in their nervous system (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full awakening. Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good thing. But if you've ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the resultant distorted personality types, one does start to wonder how healthy it is. Some of these guys looks like they were vampirized for years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make the brain very coherent at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Konhaus Drama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Konhaus drama: Scroll down and see it unfold. Some of the replies are very funny. It's sad too. The original post, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/169121 Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF Just a month or so, this fundemental separation stuff comes out so blattenly with Konhaus. Forces feelings like, 'i am out of here', like Zoran's or even Ruth'? On, to other things or places. In wathching, I do feel sorry for the John Hagelin pouring his heart out, up there and also some of those guys around him with him. An old pattern does bear out though time and again, rigid doctrianlists like Bevan and Konhaus for insance versus folks with their own cultivated experience of spiritual energy, shakti. Now those Maharishi doctrinalists vs experientialist transcendentalist folks. The doctrinalist contending, if you don't believe then leave. Yet, transcendendatelist folk, actually like Bobby Roth on that video over the weekend 'chat' with the TM 'business' plans. Hagelin Roth trying to say: I am just a TM-teacher, and then you got folks like Bevan, Raha Konhaus, German Raja Emmanuel and then other personality entities like Raja Benni Feldman holding the organizational purse strings of the Wes,t and then India. Jeez. These are credible folks? To be involved with? Who in their 'centered' mind would want to be entangled with, let alone 're-ceritfiy' with them? Looks a morass by who they are. Run! Run, like Zoran. It becomes the credible life-energy saving plan by comparison. Seek the company of holy people; find other folks. Life is short. Elsewhere? Jai Guru Dev, The Knowledge, is in the experience To me, the most telling thing was reading Deepak Chopra's several articles subsequent to the passing of Maharishi. Here was a guy who is considered persona-non-grata by the TMO yet he spoke more eloquently and from the heart about Maharishi than anyone in TMO officialdom has. By comparison, Deepak made Nader-Raam, Hagelin, Roth, and Bevan sound like they've been reading a funeral announcement scripted by a minimum-wage bureaucrat employed at your local newspaper's classified section.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Democrat caught fucking the proletariat
I predict that BigMedia will hardly support this outing as something that should have been done. If they get too much into the moral outage and that phone taps are a legitimate way to reveal the deceit of politicians, O BOY, then why not tap everyone's phones? Can you imagine what else would be found if the bank statements and phone records and taped phone calls of all the politicians were to be garnered by some sort of spying program? Who would have even a remote chance at coming off as squeaky clean after such an invasion? So this is interesting and will be entertaining to see how BigMedia handles this. Too much official condemnation and the whole house of cards comes down, but if not enough moral outrage is shown, it will seem that an invasion of the Gov's privacy has been perpetrated for no reason. Spin spin spin. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Why can't Democrats have kinky scandals like the Republicans and Larry Craig? They are so boringly normal with all this heterosexual stuff. http://tinyurl.com/2usgwb The question today is why were federal wiretaps used? Aren't they supposed to be after terrorists? I thought that was why Dubya wanted them so he could protect us against terrorists not prostitutes. Oh that's right everyone who doesn't agree with Dubya is a terrorist especially Spitzer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Konhaus Drama
On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:58 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: To me, the most telling thing was reading Deepak Chopra's several articles subsequent to the passing of Maharishi. Here was a guy who is considered persona-non-grata by the TMO yet he spoke more eloquently and from the heart about Maharishi than anyone in TMO officialdom has. And he did the best job of framing and presenting the paradox that was MMY, all while telling an engaging true story most had never heard.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, I am sharing this with you because I feel that I can trust you to protect my identity. I have enjoyed lurking on the FairfieldLife group and have hesitated in joining primarily because I feel that my identity must be protected as a recertified governor. Is there a way of joining where my identity cannot be determined by any means, i.e. google search, yahoo profile search, etc.? I would appreciate your insights into this as well as suggest your posting a thread periodically giving the steps for joining and how to protect one's identity . . . maybe the title could be How to Join FairfieldLife and Protect Your Identity . . . just a thought and it might draw more lurkers to join and contribute if they know that they cannot be identified. How to join FairfieldLife and Protect Your Identity! Jesus I had no idea the TMO had got THAT scary. Think about it though, what is so great about being in a group you have to hide your identity from? I think the answer to that is your first step back to reality.
[FairfieldLife] OffWorld is da man!
GAWD I hate when I look around on the battlefield for someone to take my six, and there's this guy, moral muscles bulging, who I have abused endlessly herein, who, despite my consistent disregard for his posts, is nonetheless so exactly on point, so clear, so real about my own POV on state-sponsored-carnage, that I am helplessly welcoming him to my side. All hail OffWorld! I bow. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: TRANSLATION by OFF WORLD BELOW: There are some indications of children being recruited as combatants by non-state armed groups, such as insurgency organisations. Translation: Some of the destitute and oppressed Iraqis whose lives and families were completely ruined by the American Shock and Awe and the subsequent unprofessional mess the Americans createdare sick of it and are fighting for their lives against the Americans. A recent concern is the reported new tactic by insurgent group militias, al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda affiliated groups, of using children as decoys in suicide car bombings. Translation: American troops can no longer shoot everything in sight like they did in Fallujah and Mosel in their murderous arrogant rampages of the past, and have to try to not shoot children when dealing with disgrunteled and desperate Iraqis who are now living in a nightmare worse than being bombed back to the stoneage which American grunts and people like WillyTex shouted for in year past. Due to ongoing security operations under the Baghdad Security Plan Translation: Due to the ongoing struggling military crackdown which Bush etc. affectionately call 'the surge' , and which is nothing other than an extreme military crakdown like in Bhurma for example... as well as the increasing use of children by insurgents, the number of children, ages between 12 and 17 years, in MNF-I detention has significantly increased from less than 300 in December 2006 to almost 800 in August 2007, with some 30 children alleged to be active insurgents Translation:... the result of this military crackdown by the Americans is that the Americans have to find provocative excuses to feed to the world and the UN (a World body which previously Bush et al spat in the UN's face and then shit upon international law) for their failures in this quagmire that will drag their country into oblivion, and the Iraqis, which they like to call terrorists and insurgents, have no choice but to fight in this hellhole that the Americans created for them to live in, thus the innevitable children involvement that this brings...something which the American overlords had no problem with when they killed and maimed tens of thousands of children in their shock and awe and ensuing chase of Iraqis in cities such as Fallujah and Mosel, etc. Now the Iraqis are fighting back and people like Willytex, John McInsane, and Ted Haggard have lost their minds. OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bruce Cockburn interview
On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: For Stu, Tom, Vaj, and others who might be interested, here's an interview with Bruce. He raps about food and sustainable growing, his work with the Unitarian Service Committee including his recent trip to Nepal, what he did with his first royalty check, the songwriting process, and other interesting stuff. It's always uplifting for me to hear someone who really walks the walk of his spiritual talk. Requires RealPlayer or something that plays .rm files: rtsp://media.cbc.ca/cbc.ca/mainstreetns/media/ 20080310Full_Cockburn_152814.rm or http://tinyurl.com/yq4ms6 Recently found these bootlegs. Both quite good: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=170300 http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=143992
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
It's not us (i.e. this group) he needs to hide his identity from, it's the TMO, that would boot him if they knew he belonged to this group. So the real question is why would he want to be a member of an organization in which his private life is not private and he doesn't feel he has freedom of speech. If he's recertified that means he's just shelled out money that might have been a real sacrifice for him. So then the question becomes, just what does the TMO give him that he would consider a good return on his investment. --- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, I am sharing this with you because I feel that I can trust you to protect my identity. I have enjoyed lurking on the FairfieldLife group and have hesitated in joining primarily because I feel that my identity must be protected as a recertified governor. Is there a way of joining where my identity cannot be determined by any means, i.e. google search, yahoo profile search, etc.? I would appreciate your insights into this as well as suggest your posting a thread periodically giving the steps for joining and how to protect one's identity . . . maybe the title could be How to Join FairfieldLife and Protect Your Identity . . . just a thought and it might draw more lurkers to join and contribute if they know that they cannot be identified. How to join FairfieldLife and Protect Your Identity! Jesus I had no idea the TMO had got THAT scary. Think about it though, what is so great about being in a group you have to hide your identity from? I think the answer to that is your first step back to reality. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: For Stu, Tom, Vaj, and others who might be interested, here's an interview with Bruce. He raps about food and sustainable growing, his work with the Unitarian Service Committee including his recent trip to Nepal, what he did with his first royalty check, the songwriting process, and other interesting stuff. It's always uplifting for me to hear someone who really walks the walk of his spiritual talk. Requires RealPlayer or something that plays .rm files: rtsp://media.cbc.ca/cbc.ca/mainstreetns/media/ 20080310Full_Cockburn_152814.rm or http://tinyurl.com/yq4ms6 Recently found these bootlegs. Both quite good: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=170300 http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=143992 EZtorrent has its max of members and won't let me sign up. Are these audios or videos? I've got pretty much everything he's ever performed in an audio version; what I'm on the lookout for now is video of him performing. Especially the times where he cuts loose on the guitar; that rarely makes it to his CDs for some reason.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Stu, Tom, Vaj, and others who might be interested, here's an interview with Bruce. He raps about food and sustainable growing, his work with the Unitarian Service Committee including his recent trip to Nepal, what he did with his first royalty check, the songwriting process, and other interesting stuff. It's always uplifting for me to hear someone who really walks the walk of his spiritual talk. Requires RealPlayer or something that plays .rm files: rtsp://media.cbc.ca/cbc.ca/mainstreetns/media/20080310Full_Cockburn_15 2814.rm or http://tinyurl.com/yq4ms6 That's a blast from the past. I was a big fan and used to have a few of his albums, World of Wonders, Dancing in the dragons jaws, Stealing fire. A mate of mine brought them back from Canada, brilliant lyrics I seem to remember. I went and lost them all in a house move twenty years ago and they were never on sale in England. Hmmm might have to mosy on over to amazon for a perusal. Can you recommend a recent album of his Barry? Is he still doing good stuff?
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
Zoran, Here's the good news: you can continue to teach TM any way you want. You tell me, but it seems from over here that there's not enough money in your country for the Rajas to be concerned that the likes of you are running things there. Maybe they'll write a couple legal sounding letters to you, but simply ignore them. I'd say, don't ever send any money from initiations to them, charge your own price that's fair for your population's general ability to pay, worship Guru Dev in exactly the way you wish, tell your marvelous ideas about him, run your own rounding courses, train your own teachers, use any TM materials you have at hand until you run out and then print up your own as you see fit, and THEN become a world teacher like Guru Dev was. Let's see if any of the Rajas get off their asses to do the necessary paperwork in your country to put you out of business. I predict that you're just too small for Girish's Thugs to come after you when they would have to put out a lot of money to do so. They're all going to be afighting each other soon enough, and you won't matter to them, and meanwhile, why not start RIGHT NOW being the kind of teacher you want to be, because they will scatter to the winds. Or, by the time any Raja decides to come at you with lawyers, you'll be the leader of your local TM community and they'll believe in your cause if you present the choice to them of being a lover of Guru Dev as opposed to paying tribute money to a gangster in India. Go! Go! Go! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Black Hand (Serbian: ЦÑна ÑÑка / Crna Ruka), officially Unification or Death (Serbian: УÑедиÑеÑе или ÑмÑÑ / Ujedinjenje ili smrt), was a secret society founded in Serbia in May 1911, this society's possible connections to the June 28, 1914 assassination in Sarajevo of Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria is considered to have been the main catalyst to the start of World War I. Ohhh you got me! Yes, Franz Ferdinand was a king killed by the Serbs. Do you see conection? Due to my bad reputation I am going around killing kings. My father was Croatian Serb, my mother is Croatian, I am living in Croatia. Is that relevant for someone? Maybe for such people who were creating war during 90' in ex-yugoslavia. During war on Kosovo I picked up 30 people in small bus and with help of others we were runing Dubrovnik Peace Project for 2 years. That is something what one political Serb would never did - to fight for peace on Kosovo. I concerne myself as someone without feeling of patriotism of any kind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not us (i.e. this group) he needs to hide his identity from, it's the TMO, that would boot him if they knew he belonged to this group. So the real question is why would he want to be a member of an organization in which his private life is not private and he doesn't feel he has freedom of speech. That is what I meant with my post Angela, but I can see how it could be taken both ways. If he's recertified that means he's just shelled out money that might have been a real sacrifice for him. So then the question becomes, just what does the TMO give him that he would consider a good return on his investment. If he has to hide from them not a lot, but then he's obviously a long way in to be a re-cert. And the further up the garden path you've been led the further you have to walk back, and on your own. Which is why FFL is so good as it's chock full of ex-TMers who are doing just fine, myself included. The fact is anyone reading this site is out of favour with the TMO as far as they are concerned --- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hi Rick, I am sharing this with you because I feel that I can trust you to protect my identity. I have enjoyed lurking on the FairfieldLife group and have hesitated in joining primarily because I feel that my identity must be protected as a recertified governor. Is there a way of joining where my identity cannot be determined by any means, i.e. google search, yahoo profile search, etc.? I would appreciate your insights into this as well as suggest your posting a thread periodically giving the steps for joining and how to protect one's identity . . . maybe the title could be How to Join FairfieldLife and Protect Your Identity . . . just a thought and it might draw more lurkers to join and contribute if they know that they cannot be identified. How to join FairfieldLife and Protect Your Identity! Jesus I had no idea the TMO had got THAT scary. Think about it though, what is so great about being in a group you have to hide your identity from? I think the answer to that is your first step back to reality. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoran, Here's the good news: you can continue to teach TM any way you want. Ofcourse. All he has to do is stop slandering and telling lies about others in the movement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:22 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: EZtorrent has its max of members and won't let me sign up. Are these audios or videos? I've got pretty much everything he's ever performed in an audio version; what I'm on the lookout for now is video of him performing. Especially the times where he cuts loose on the guitar; that rarely makes it to his CDs for some reason. Lossless audio (FLAC), one from a radio broadcast, another from a German broadcast. You'll occasionally see videos as well.
[FairfieldLife] Awareness Test
This test is part of a series on bicycle safety, and it's a real doozy. Try it and see how well you do: http://www.dothetest.co.uk/ I think it's *very* instructive, and has a lot to say about perception and, dare I say it, the tendency for people to claim that something is true because they saw it. Or haven't.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness Test
GAWD I hate it when an chickenshit expat gives us such a delightful absolutely instructive hands-down proof that we are all living in our own worlds. Barry, I bow. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This test is part of a series on bicycle safety, and it's a real doozy. Try it and see how well you do: http://www.dothetest.co.uk/ I think it's *very* instructive, and has a lot to say about perception and, dare I say it, the tendency for people to claim that something is true because they saw it. Or haven't.
[FairfieldLife] Whoa! What a difference Ubuntu makes!
This is my first message using Ubuntu! The constant rattle, or whatever, of my hard drive is all gone! : ) But I wonder, how unsafe is this without any(?) virus protection, and stuff?
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Mamet on corporations
shempmcgurk wrote: from the same previously linked article: And I began to question my hatred for 'the Corporations'—the hatred of which, I found, was but the flip side of my hunger for those goods and services they provide and without which we could not live. Barfitu in particular would do well to contemplate Mamet's words. His words are rather naive and not obviously of one who knows anything about economics and how businesses are run these days. Many of those products we have hunger for are assembled these days from many different sources. It's more of a network situation which didn't exist until recently. There is no need for large corporations any more, they are just dinosaurs. I began wondering if Mamet was a little right leaning when he created the pro-war CBS series The Unit. Shempadelic, you should watch the CBS series Jericho which is near or at the old The Unit time slot. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: What TM teacher training course did you graduate from? You only need to attend one single TM introductory lecture to know that there's no mantra angle mentioned. And you only need one single advanced technique to know that you only get one single bij mantra for TM practice. If you had attended either of these you would already know this. What TM teacher training course did you graduate from? Biarritz spring 1976. Now that I answered your question please tell which one you graduated from? If you had you would have heard the lecture on advanced techniques and the talk about the difference between the first and advanced. Many teachers when asked about advanced techniques usually paraphrase from these lectures. You obviously aren't a teacher but like to pose as a TM expert which is very difficult to do unless you attended the TTCs especially the later ones which were longer and more information provided (and for those who attended the quick early TTCs they got more info on their AofE courses). While we're at it please answer the other question I asked last week about what war we're fighting over in Iraq. How do you gauge if we're won that war? And isn't really an occupation?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Whoa! What a difference Ubuntu makes!
cardemaister wrote: This is my first message using Ubuntu! The constant rattle, or whatever, of my hard drive is all gone! : ) But I wonder, how unsafe is this without any(?) virus protection, and stuff? You can't get viruses on Linux because for a program to install (a virus is a program) you have to give it permission (go to root mode). This is what Vista is supposed to provide but in their rather stupid need to be different Microsoft fucked it up. I don't think anyone in the Linux camp would have complained if they had just copied the Linux method (which comes from UNIX anyway). And isn't it nice to have your computer available for you in under a minute (as it is here with Ubuntu) rather than waiting for Windows to get up and running (currently that's 6 minutes with my Vista notebook). Windows is dead. Microsoft's next big is Silverlight which will also run on Linux. What does that tell you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Democrat caught fucking the proletariat
Oh yeah, when it's seen that politicians will become open books and can no longer screw their whores they will change the wiretapping laws. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Democrat caught fucking the proletariat I predict that BigMedia will hardly support this outing as something that should have been done. If they get too much into the moral outage and that phone taps are a legitimate way to reveal the deceit of politicians, O BOY, then why not tap everyone's phones? Can you imagine what else would be found if the bank statements and phone records and taped phone calls of all the politicians were to be garnered by some sort of spying program? Who would have even a remote chance at coming off as squeaky clean after such an invasion? So this is interesting and will be entertaining to see how BigMedia handles this. Too much official condemnation and the whole house of cards comes down, but if not enough moral outrage is shown, it will seem that an invasion of the Gov's privacy has been perpetrated for no reason. Spin spin spin. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Why can't Democrats have kinky scandals like the Republicans and Larry Craig? They are so boringly normal with all this heterosexual stuff. http://tinyurl.com/2usgwb The question today is why were federal wiretaps used? Aren't they supposed to be after terrorists? I thought that was why Dubya wanted them so he could protect us against terrorists not prostitutes. Oh that's right everyone who doesn't agree with Dubya is a terrorist especially Spitzer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Marci Shimoff on Montel -- today, Wednesday, March 12
She’s a meditator (Governor?) who used to live in FF. Carol (Zurer) Kline co-authored the book. Dear Family and Friends, Happy for No Reason is back on TV—I’m co-hosting The Montel William Show tomorrow, Wednesday, March 12. In January, I taped this special episode of his show that’s devoted entirely to happiness. Click here to find the time and channel in your area: HYPERLINK http://www.montelshow.com/http://www.montelshow.com/ I was delighted and honored to be asked to co-host this episode (which means I’m on for most of the segments) as part of Montel’s Living Well series, designed to help people live their best life possible. I was especially excited to talk about the concept of Happy for No Reason with Montel, who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis (MS) in 1999 and knows firsthand how to find well-being despite difficult circumstances. On the show, Montel shared his own personal journey with me (though the show went 25 minutes over time in the taping, so I have no idea what will be included and what will be cut). He is very inspiring, and his message is truly aligned with the message of Happy for No Reason. He has found a way to manage his disease and lead a remarkable life -- while helping others do the same. It was a joy just to be with him. Montel and I are joined by my dear friend, actress Catherine Oxenberg, who also shares her happiness journey, and Bill Doyle, Montel’s co-author on Living Well, who talks about happy foods. Thanks to you for your wonderful support of me and Happy for No Reason. The book continues to sell extremely well and we have sold translation rights in 20 languages (and still more coming in). Kinkos/Fedex has selected Happy for No Reason to be their featured book of the month in April, so every Kinkos store will have it on display. There are more fantastic things happening that I’ll tell you about very soon. However, the most moving aspect of this all for me and for Carol is the response we’re getting from people who’ve read the book. We get emails, letters and calls every day. Four different people have shared that they were suicidal, but reading the book turned them around and saved their life. How amazing--and humbling! Carol and I feel such great gratitude for being conduits of this message. With my love and gratitude, Marci No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 1:41 PM
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield-rental property
Friends, Spring is here! Or, at least the last vestiges of winter as we transition to longer, warmer days. This intent of this email is to reach out, to friends and\or acquaintances that might know of any reputable landlords that have properties for rent. Ideally, I am looking for an affordable three bedroom house that is not adjacent to the railroad tracks. So, Tom, how do you define affordable? Ideally $500 to $600. Unfortunately, that rules out anything with the MSV stamp of approval. Please, let me know if you can recommendations. Thanks! Tom O'Neill 815/616-0003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 1:41 PM
[FairfieldLife] 10 myths about Gurus
from http://www.guruphiliac.blogspot.com Monday, April 04, 2005 Top Ten Myths About Gurus File under: Hagiographic Circus and The Great White Botherhood The pursuit of the truth has brought us to many strange and wonderful places, some of which were in the presence of persons considered divine because they are gurus. Around such people constellate clouds of occluding ideology about self-realization, despite the efforts of the guru, or because of them. We've compiled a list of the ten top occluding ideas people hold about their gurus or gurus in general, for your perusal: 10. Guruji knows what's best for you While we acknowledge the possibility that a real true guru could know what's best for you, s/he'd also know it's best to let you decide for yourself. Gurus who pretend to know what's best for all their devotees are fooling themselves as much as they are their disciples. 9. Guruji can read your mind Did you ever wonder why people seem so sanctimonious while in the presence of their guru, besides kissing ass by acting joyous or pious. They probably believe that their guru is reading their mind, and all the minds of the devotees in their presence. Or even those not in their presence. The fact is that self-realization confers no special power to read minds, despite the assertions of Patanjali and the Theosophists. There may be some gurus who seem to have a knack for coincidental occurrence, but no more than other people with the same knack. 8. Guruji doesn't feel pain We were going to suggest cutting off a guru's arm to see if s/he feels pain, but then we realized the shock of the trauma would probably just shut off the pain response. Believe us, gurus feel pain. They may know varying levels of emotional pain as well. 7. Guruji knows all your past lives More theosophical nonsense. Not that there aren't past lives, and not that they can't be known, but they can't be watched like a movie by a person with the right siddhi. They may see something they believe are your past lives, but it's much more likely to be something made up in their head in the moment, whether they believe it to be the truth or know that it isn't. 6. Guruji knows your future See number 1. No special powers outside of knowing the truth of self- realization are conferred by self-realization. 5. Guruji knows everything One of the major occluding expectations about self-realization is the idea that knowing yourself as the whole entails access to all the information in the whole. In truth, self-realization confers just one kind of special knowledge that only knows itself. There is no content there. That's why they call it emptiness. So anything your guru knows s/he knows because they heard it or read it. 4. Guruji has no desires This is based in the most pervasive of the occluding expectations, that desire somehow prevents self-realization. Desire is merely the way the body responds to conditions. The guru may (or may not) be over sex, but when they want a Twinkie, they go get a Twinkie. 3. Guruji is the avatar A guru proclaiming themselves to be the living avatar is like the Mission Impossible tape proclaiming it will self-destruct in ten seconds. 2. Guruji is divine Sure, and so is every other person on the planet, regardless of their spiritual status. Knowing who you really are doesn't change who you've always been in this life. It just adds the knowledge that we are all of the same, one being. Anything else is just publicist bullshit. 1. Guruji can enlighten with a touch You can have enlightenment in the presence of your guru, but it wasn't because s/he touched you. Transmission or shaktipat gurus merely tap into the power of mind by way of a ruse, the idea that they are God and can do such things. That ruse sometimes captures the mind of the guru just as much as that of the devotees, so they aren't all to be blamed for the subterfuge. posted by jody @ 7:32 PM 41 Comments: At 4/06/2005 4:37 PM, Anonymous said... While it's only a stretch to conclude what is, it's the height of arrogance to conclude what isn't. Sincerely At 4/06/2005 4:45 PM, Anonymous said... so jody, you're saying that you can see from one end of reality to the other and can enumerate what's there and what isn't? I call bullshit on that. 005 4:48 PM, jody said... Show me a positive demonstration of any of the myths I've presented, and I'll post a retraction. If it doesn't happen in the real world, it don't happen in the guru world. It's straight up magical thinking. There are medicines you can take for that now. At 4/06/2005 4:56 PM, Anonymous said... Q: How do you tell the difference between the
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
Zoran could single-handedly turn kaliyugoslavia into satyugoslavia! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoran, Here's the good news: you can continue to teach TM any way you want. You tell me, but it seems from over here that there's not enough money in your country for the Rajas to be concerned that the likes of you are running things there. Maybe they'll write a couple legal sounding letters to you, but simply ignore them. I'd say, don't ever send any money from initiations to them, charge your own price that's fair for your population's general ability to pay, worship Guru Dev in exactly the way you wish, tell your marvelous ideas about him, run your own rounding courses, train your own teachers, use any TM materials you have at hand until you run out and then print up your own as you see fit, and THEN become a world teacher like Guru Dev was. Let's see if any of the Rajas get off their asses to do the necessary paperwork in your country to put you out of business. I predict that you're just too small for Girish's Thugs to come after you when they would have to put out a lot of money to do so. They're all going to be afighting each other soon enough, and you won't matter to them, and meanwhile, why not start RIGHT NOW being the kind of teacher you want to be, because they will scatter to the winds. Or, by the time any Raja decides to come at you with lawyers, you'll be the leader of your local TM community and they'll believe in your cause if you present the choice to them of being a lover of Guru Dev as opposed to paying tribute money to a gangster in India. Go! Go! Go! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ wrote: Black Hand (Serbian: ЦÑна ÑÑка / Crna Ruka), officially Unification or Death (Serbian: УÑедиÑеÑе или ÑмÑÑ / Ujedinjenje ili smrt), was a secret society founded in Serbia in May 1911, this society's possible connections to the June 28, 1914 assassination in Sarajevo of Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria is considered to have been the main catalyst to the start of World War I. Ohhh you got me! Yes, Franz Ferdinand was a king killed by the Serbs. Do you see conection? Due to my bad reputation I am going around killing kings. My father was Croatian Serb, my mother is Croatian, I am living in Croatia. Is that relevant for someone? Maybe for such people who were creating war during 90' in ex-yugoslavia. During war on Kosovo I picked up 30 people in small bus and with help of others we were runing Dubrovnik Peace Project for 2 years. That is something what one political Serb would never did - to fight for peace on Kosovo. I concerne myself as someone without feeling of patriotism of any kind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
--Precisely, Edg! IMO some misconceptions regarding Samadhi have crept into our history of what the experience is all about, due to some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding going into Samadhi - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with (perhaps) some memories of inner visions. To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record straight; along with Buddhism as a whole. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the Absolute is always there, the experience of a blackout is, er, go figure, AN EXPERIENCE OF THE ABSOLUTE. Since no memory can be dredged up about the experience, it could only be the Absolute that was present. Get that? Nothing is what was experienced. No thing. Not even awareness, not even amness. Sorry to tell ya TBs and bliss seekers, but that's the actual real deal bottomline goal of goals. Consult your local Buddhist about the void. It is that no-thingness that will be discovered to be the only identity one has ever had. The rest is a dross of verbiage floating on the illusion of consciousness. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, endlessrainintoapapercup endlessrainintoapapercup@ wrote: Kirk said: Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in their nervous system (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full awakening. What exactly causes these alleged blocks? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: That vampired look I have determined comes from squeezing the eyes shut for many hours a day which gives a person bruises under their eyes (dark circles) and also from the lack of sunlight. I used to look like that from rounding. Most people do at some point. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: I don't know what type of experience you are talking about, matrixmonitor...I'm only addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If transcendence isn't conscious, how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists? My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not intended to reflect TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I described, of pure consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing deeper and deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but other meditation traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM produces conscious transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me. Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the makara-bindu and open the eye of knowledge, the third eye as the TM puja mentions, most TMers will just languish in a laya-samadhi. The techniques to actually awaken awareness there aren't taught in TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to awaken so highly, it just doesn't happen. Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in their nervous system (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full awakening. Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good thing. But if you've ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the resultant distorted personality types, one does start to wonder how healthy it is. Some of these guys looks like they were vampirized for years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make the brain very coherent at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi.
[FairfieldLife] Improv Everywhere Can I Get A Napkin Please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkYZ6rbPU2M A well-scored, planned, and executed act of random kindness and senseless fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness Test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This test is part of a series on bicycle safety, and it's a real doozy. Try it and see how well you do: http://www.dothetest.co.uk/ I think it's *very* instructive, and has a lot to say about perception and, dare I say it, the tendency for people to claim that something is true because they saw it. Or haven't. Ha! That was great! I can count, but I can't see fer shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What�s your take on MMY�s contention that OM makes you a recluse, and his claim that Guru Dev said the same thing? The proof is in the pudding. There are many Indian billionaires and millionaires who practice techniques with OM. Most Indians dismiss MMY's contention when you mention it to them. My guru thinks the notion is preposterous. And when I dropped TM and used another mantra with OM my income and opportunities actually picked up. So have mine. And Amma shares your guru's opinion. I asked her about it. I guess Guru Dev must have been wrong on this one. Do you define your success in life as a householder by your income-level alone? Seems to me that, regardless of the validity of the OM vs non-OM mantra issue, you're also assuming that you can extrapolate your experience to everyone else. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: What�s your take on MMY�s contention that OM makes you a recluse, and his claim that Guru Dev said the same thing? The proof is in the pudding. There are many Indian billionaires and millionaires who practice techniques with OM. Most Indians dismiss MMY's contention when you mention it to them. My guru thinks the notion is preposterous. And when I dropped TM and used another mantra with OM my income and opportunities actually picked up. So have mine. And Amma shares your guru's opinion. I asked her about it. I guess Guru Dev must have been wrong on this one. Do you define your success in life as a householder by your income- level alone? Seems to me that, regardless of the validity of the OM vs non-OM mantra issue, you're also assuming that you can extrapolate your experience to everyone else. Lawson **end** But, Lawson, isn't that what Guru Dev was doing; extrapolating his experience (or what he had been taught, or believed to be true) to everyone else?
[FairfieldLife] An Important Message for All Sidhas
An Important Message for All Sidhas [Invincible America] http://invincibleamerica.org/ Dear Governors and Sidhas, You can now view highlights of last Sundayâs meeting with the leaders of the Invincible America Course. Please feel free to share this email with other Sidhas you know. Jai Guru Dev Communication Office Raja Hagelinâs Invincible America [DR. JOHN HAGELIN] [DR. HOWARD SETTLE] [DR. BEVAN MORRIS] [DR. BOB WYNNE] Raja of Invincible America DR. JOHN HAGELIN Chair of the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America DR. HOWARD SETTLE President of Maharishi University of Management; Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace DR. BEVAN MORRIS Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City; Raja of Invincible New Zealand DR. BOB WYNNE PLAY VIDEO (9:48) http://streaming.globalcountry.net/familychat/2008_03_09_familychat_raj\ a_hagelin.wmv PLAY VIDEO (13:48) http://streaming.globalcountry.net/familychat/2008_03_09_familychat_how\ ard.wmv PLAY VIDEO (24:38) http://streaming.globalcountry.net/familychat/2008_03_09_familychat_pri\ me_minister.wmv PLAY VIDEO (10:13) http://streaming.globalcountry.net/familychat/2008_03_09_familychat_raj\ a_wynne.wmv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Precisely, Edg! IMO some misconceptions regarding Samadhi have crept into our history of what the experience is all about, due to some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding going into Samadhi - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with (perhaps) some memories of inner visions. To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record straight; along with Buddhism as a whole. There's a difference between loss of consciousness (blacking out) and cessation of mental and sensory activity while still maintaining alertness. Physiologically, this is due to how our brains work: there are several main components to most mental activity: sensory input, thalamic meditation and cortical activity. Sensory input comes in and the thalamus may pass that activity to the rest of the brain for further processing and accept recycled input from the rest of the brain which is merged with the raw sensory input for further processing. Some scientists think this last (the cortico-thalamic loop) is what we call mental activity or thinking. during the waking state: sense input comes in and is passed to the brain and recycled. during dreaming: sense input is reduced or eliminated but the brain remains alert and the thalamus accepts internal signals and passes them back into the brain during deep sleep: sense input is reduced or eliminated and the brain is not alert and the thalamus doesn't accept internal signals during samadhi: sense input is reduced or eliminated, the brain is alert, but the thalamus doesn't accept internal signals, so the brain is left doing what it always in all forms of activity--even deep sleep: optimize connections between its various cells and parts. The above is very idealized, but it gives you a feel for the main differences between forms of awareness in the brain. Note that the brain is still alert during samadhi, but there is neither thinking nor dreaming nor outside awareness, merely alert-mode optimization activity without any external processing. This restful alertness is the alpha wave. When huge chunks (mostly frontal lobe IIRC) of the brain are in this mode, Self awareness manifests. When this mode becomes the default idle mode of the brain, even during waking, dreaming and sleeping, we call it Cosmic Consciousness --our awareness returns to Self even in the midst of activity. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Are carbon credits tax deductible?
I read this week where Governor Arnold Schwazzenegger (or however the hell you spell it) flies home from Sacramento every weeknight to be with his family in Los Angeles. The cost? $10,000 per flight. Arnold, worth over $100 million, pays for the flights himself. And a huge carbon cost, too (something of concern to those fools who actually believe in man-made catastrophic global warming). But Arnold offsets this by purchasing carbon credits. Arnold is on record as believing in catastrophic man-made global warming. What he is doing by purchasing the carbon credits is, of course, purchasing indulgences to appease his guilt. My question is: 1) are the costs of the daily flights tax deductible to Arnold? 2) are the costs of the carbon credits he purchases tax deductible? If the answer to the two above questions are yes then I suggest to you that the $80,000 that Eliot Spitzer spent on hookers should be tax deductible, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/yq4ms6 That's a blast from the past. I was a big fan and used to have a few of his albums, World of Wonders, Dancing in the dragons jaws, Stealing fire. A mate of mine brought them back from Canada, brilliant lyrics I seem to remember. I went and lost them all in a house move twenty years ago and they were never on sale in England. Hmmm might have to mosy on over to amazon for a perusal. Can you recommend a recent album of his Barry? Is he still doing good stuff? You're asking a fanatic, so beware. :-) The answer to your last question above, unfortunately for the collector, is Yes, he is still doing good stuff. The albums of the era you liked (cited above) had a specific sound quality to them that reflected not only Bruce's influences and taste at the time, but also the band at the time. Since then, he's easily had six or seven different sounds, tastes, and bands. Not everyone (even fanatics) like all of them equally. To get an overview of the various sounds, I can actually recommend a best of album called Anything, Anytime, Anywhere. It's a collection of the singles from 1079- 2002 and has some great stuff on it. Of the newer releases, my favorite is The Charity Of Night. Dart to the Heart is a lovely album IMO, but a lot of people didn't like the different (for him) sound. Breakfast In New Orleans, Dinner In Timbuktu has some great songs on it as well. I love the two newest albums (You've Never Seen Every- thing and Life Short Call Now), but they have some new sounds and tonal experiments on them that, again, not everyone likes. My best advice would be to go to a site that allows you to listen to samples and try to get a feel for the albums before buying. Here are a few resources list on http://cockburnproject.net: # Sonic Net hosts the Night Train and Last Night Of The World video - http://www.sonicnet.com/artists/ai_video.jhtml?ai_id=4688 - Sonic Net's offers the Night Train video from The Charity Of Night album, and Last Night Of The World from the Breakfast In New Orleans, Dinner In Timbuktu album in its Bruce Cockburn feature section. Format: RealVideo. # Sputnik7.com hosts the Night Train and Last Night Of The World videos - http://www.sputnik7.com/vod/ - Sputnik7.com also has the two videos above.Formats: both RealAudio and WindowsMedia. # Bruce Cockburn Lyric Library - http://www.stealing-fire.com/BCLL/Default.asp - Marie Westhaver's archive of lyrics, fully searchable or browsable by album, has short clips of all released songs. Format: RealAudio
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
On Mar 12, 2008, at 2:09 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: To get an overview of the various sounds, I can actually recommend a best of album called Anything, Anytime, Anywhere. It's a collection of the singles from 1079- 2002 and has some great stuff on it. From 1079?! Wow, this guy really does have staying power, Barry. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2008, at 2:09 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: To get an overview of the various sounds, I can actually recommend a best of album called Anything, Anytime, Anywhere. It's a collection of the singles from 1079- 2002 and has some great stuff on it. From 1079?! Wow, this guy really does have staying power, Barry. :) More than you know. :-) Yes, it was a typo, but he is on record as saying that in his opinion one of his songs was recycled from an incarnation in the 12th century. Wish I could find a place where you can listen to it on the Net but so far I haven't been able to, so here are the lyrics. It's about the joys of multi- incarnational love: Love Song In the place my wonder comes from There I find you Your face shines in my sky In your heart where the world comes from There you will find me Your eyes dance in my mind Come with me We will sail on the wind We will sway among the yellow grass When you be beside me I am real Though my eyes be closed forever Still I would find you You shine across my time Come with me We will sail on the wind We will sway among the yellow grass When you be beside me I am real In the place my wonder comes from There I find you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
That's why I practice a school of village tantra. It is simple because people in villages didn't get expensive educations. For the modern person in our complex society the simpler these things are taught the better. I think many of the extrapolations which are complex appeal to people who worship complexity because it makes them feel secure. Larry wrote: you're making this way too complicated, simplify, simplify, there's nothing to this --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:33 PM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in their nervous system (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full awakening. What exactly causes these alleged blocks? Imbalanced kundalini risings which take non-culminating routes. Several people with vajra-nadi risings that I've spoken to. They believe sidhi cultivation has a lot to do with it. See http://www.kundalinicare.com/aboutkundalini3.html These people--a swami from the Saraswati order and his American lineholder--have spent a lot of time helping old TMers, including some higher-ups who skidaddled the TMO years ago. They also come to Fairfield from what I see every now and again. One letter from one of MMY's old close students, Earl Kaplan, is in the FFL archives. He seems to feel it was deliberate, but who knows?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Whoa! What a difference Ubuntu makes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cardemaister wrote: This is my first message using Ubuntu! The constant rattle, or whatever, of my hard drive is all gone! : ) But I wonder, how unsafe is this without any(?) virus protection, and stuff? You can't get viruses on Linux because for a program to install (a virus is a program) you have to give it permission (go to root mode). Thanks! That's what I thought but wasn't absolutely sure about that. This is what Vista is supposed to provide but in their rather stupid need to be different Microsoft fucked it up. I don't think anyone in the Linux camp would have complained if they had just copied the Linux method (which comes from UNIX anyway). And isn't it nice to have your computer available for you in under a minute (as it is here with Ubuntu) rather than waiting for Windows to get up and running (currently that's 6 minutes with my Vista notebook). Windows is dead. Microsoft's next big is Silverlight which will also run on Linux. What does that tell you?
[FairfieldLife] Iran Invasion Opponent Admiral Fallen Resigns
Now its full speed ahead for chunklenuts and Darth Cheney to invade and occupy Iran on your dime! Fallon was opposed to the White House gangster's Iran plans. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Mideast_military_chief_resigns_after_magazine_0311.html David Lindorff piece on this. Note that US Naval ships are positioning themselves off the shore of Iran right now: http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/031208Lindorff.shtml How long do we have to put up with these criminals in office? January 20th, 2009 may be too late.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno tertonzeno@ wrote: --Precisely, Edg! IMO some misconceptions regarding Samadhi have crept into our history of what the experience is all about, due to some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding going into Samadhi - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with (perhaps) some memories of inner visions. To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record straight; along with Buddhism as a whole. There's a difference between loss of consciousness (blacking out) and cessation of mental and sensory activity while still maintaining alertness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno tertonzeno@ wrote: --Precisely, Edg! IMO some misconceptions regarding Samadhi have crept into our history of what the experience is all about, due to some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding going into Samadhi - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with (perhaps) some memories of inner visions. To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record straight; along with Buddhism as a whole. There's a difference between loss of consciousness (blacking out) and cessation of mental and sensory activity while still maintaining alertness. About ten years ago, I was playing basketball. Instead of having a single pole that held up the hoop in the park where we played, the hoop was held by two poles descending down like an inverted V. I was driving up for a lay up and caught my head dead on into one of the descending poles and went completely unconscious for what seemed like at least five seconds. What I remember clearly was the experience of not being unconscious, having a gap of awareness normally associated with being knocked out, but instead being perfectly aware of That, nothing but pure awareness and then coming back into waking state. The thing I realized from that experience was, that the integration of Being is so natural over years of meditating. A person will not know how much Being has been integrated into their waking experience until they are confronted with a contrast or what we believe is the normal experience of unconsciousness. I suppose death would be the ultimate judge if this were true or not.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pentagon Flyover - How They Pulled It Off, investigative doco 1 hr. 40 min
Angela Mailander wrote: Bhairitu, have you seen this? Lemme know what you think. a http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8176286327617173136 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com No, I haven't seen it yet. I wish it were downloadable as some of the Google stuff is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
What TM teacher training course did you graduate from? Bhairitu wrote: Biarritz spring 1976. Now that I answered your question please tell which one you graduated from? Is this some kind of trick question? If you had you would have heard the lecture on advanced techniques and the talk about the difference between the first and advanced. I got my first advanced technique from Satyanand and my second advanced technique from the Marshy himself. No mention of any bija mantra angles. I was taught the A of E techniques in 1975 on one of the first siddhi courses in Austin. The A of E techniques were only taught on 3 or 4 courses and then they were replaced by the TM-Sidhis. The A of E techniques were supposed to bring on the siddhis. They involve putting your attention systematically on different parts of the body and then on different parts of the world and finally on the universe. They are preceeded by fast pranayama. I've heard many talks about advanced techniques in Austin in 1976, at the TM-Sidhi Center. There was no mention of any bija mantra angles. There was no mention of any angles at my first introductory TM lecture by Jerry Jarvis in 1965 at SIMS in Westwood. I've heard dozens of TM introductory lectures since then and in none of them was a bija mantra angle mentioned. There's no difference between the TM lecture I heard and the ones that any other student hears. There is nothing in the TM checking notes about any angles. Many teachers when asked about advanced techniques usually paraphrase from these lectures. You obviously aren't a teacher but like to pose as a TM expert which is very difficult to do unless you attended the TTCs According to Vaj, this amounts to next to nothing! Face it, all you get in advanced techniques are a few Sankrit words to add to your mantra - some fertilizer, that's it. No new bija mantras, no angles. especially the later ones which were longer and more information provided (and for those who attended the quick early TTCs they got more info on their AofE courses). Are you suggesting that you are a TM teacher of Advanced Techniques? A Minister or a Governor? In TM you get only one single bija mantra. In advanced techniques you get fertilizer words to add before and after your bija mantra. There are no mantras or bijas in the TM-Sidhi Program. True about Willytex, however, I did notice much of what he said seemed genuine and checked out accurately in my book, with the exceptions I notedhe had an incredible amount of info. and trivia, he may be extraordinary in this respect! - Willaim G. Murphy, Governor of the Age of Enlightenment
[FairfieldLife] David Wilcocks on 2012 Enigma
full...full...smiles - enjoy! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908 if you have trouble opening this video go to the link and scroll down and watch: http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=37\ 4Itemid=70 lovelove, solarlotus
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience
Go take a look at the bubble diagram again. Yes I was a Governor. You still haven't answered my other question. Why? And you didn't clearly state you were not a teacher. Why? Are you a coward? Is that what happens to beings living under bridges? Richard J. Williams wrote: What TM teacher training course did you graduate from? Bhairitu wrote: Biarritz spring 1976. Now that I answered your question please tell which one you graduated from? Is this some kind of trick question? If you had you would have heard the lecture on advanced techniques and the talk about the difference between the first and advanced. I got my first advanced technique from Satyanand and my second advanced technique from the Marshy himself. No mention of any bija mantra angles. I was taught the A of E techniques in 1975 on one of the first siddhi courses in Austin. The A of E techniques were only taught on 3 or 4 courses and then they were replaced by the TM-Sidhis. The A of E techniques were supposed to bring on the siddhis. They involve putting your attention systematically on different parts of the body and then on different parts of the world and finally on the universe. They are preceeded by fast pranayama. I've heard many talks about advanced techniques in Austin in 1976, at the TM-Sidhi Center. There was no mention of any bija mantra angles. There was no mention of any angles at my first introductory TM lecture by Jerry Jarvis in 1965 at SIMS in Westwood. I've heard dozens of TM introductory lectures since then and in none of them was a bija mantra angle mentioned. There's no difference between the TM lecture I heard and the ones that any other student hears. There is nothing in the TM checking notes about any angles. Many teachers when asked about advanced techniques usually paraphrase from these lectures. You obviously aren't a teacher but like to pose as a TM expert which is very difficult to do unless you attended the TTCs According to Vaj, this amounts to next to nothing! Face it, all you get in advanced techniques are a few Sankrit words to add to your mantra - some fertilizer, that's it. No new bija mantras, no angles. especially the later ones which were longer and more information provided (and for those who attended the quick early TTCs they got more info on their AofE courses). Are you suggesting that you are a TM teacher of Advanced Techniques? A Minister or a Governor? In TM you get only one single bija mantra. In advanced techniques you get fertilizer words to add before and after your bija mantra. There are no mantras or bijas in the TM-Sidhi Program. True about Willytex, however, I did notice much of what he said seemed genuine and checked out accurately in my book, with the exceptions I notedhe had an incredible amount of info. and trivia, he may be extraordinary in this respect! - Willaim G. Murphy, Governor of the Age of Enlightenment
[FairfieldLife] State of Samadhi in the life of Ramakrishna
from geocities. Comparing this experience to the statements of MMY, my conclusion is that Ramakrishna's experience is a case of a lack of integration.: State Of Samadhi in the Life of Sri Ramakrishna During the sadhana of Vedanta, Sri Ramakrishna tried to transcend all the limitations of body-mind duality. Under the guidance of his teacher - Tota Puri - Sri Ramakrishna took to the practice with intense zeal and determination that knew no bounds. When the effulgent form of Mother obstructed his entry into the realm of superconscious state, he put an end to it with the 'sword of discrimination'. He went into a state of highest nondual consciousness and was established in Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Continuously for three days Sri Ramakrishna was lost in that state, sitting like a stone - lifeless to outer world and stimuli. His face was calm, serene, and radiant. A doctor examined the functions of his heart and lungs, but he was dead like a wood to the external stimuli. After three days he gradually regained his normal consciousness. Afterwards Sri Ramakrishna was in state of samadhi continuously for six months. * We intently watched Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in samadhi. His whole body relaxed and then became slightly rigid. There was no twitching of the muscles or the nerves, no movement of any limb. Both his hands lay in his lap with the fingers lightly interlocked. The sitting posture of the body was easy but absolutely motionless. The face was slightly tilted up and in repose. The eyes were nearly but not wholly closed. The eyeballs were not turned up or otherwise deflected, but they were fixed and conveyed no message of outer objects to the brain. The lips were parted in a beatific and indescribable smile. There was something in that wonderful smile which no photograph was ever able to reproduce. * In the state of samadhi the master's body was bent on one side and therefore the cameraman went to make him sit erect by softly adjusting his chin. But as soon as he touched the chin the whole body of the Master came up like a piece of paper - so light it was. The Master was completely unaware of this incidence. Swami Nirvanananda said that he had heard that people experiencing samadhi of a certain type or depth generally do become light.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bruce Cockburn interview
On Mar 12, 2008, at 2:36 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: From 1079?! Wow, this guy really does have staying power, Barry. :) More than you know. :-) Well I did mean (ahem) his music... Great lyrics--thanks. I'll look for it on Amazon. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see.
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wilcocks on 2012 Enigma
Can you summarize a bit Mrs. Raam? What enigma is there in 2012? Especially since such a time has not yet been observed? What was that prophecy you spake about six years ago about the end of the US? The Nicherin Prophecy or something. Okay, well everyone needs something to rely on. Best to rely upon the unchanging center though since having no quality it will not cease. - Original Message - From: Jyotish Brahmani-Raam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Wilcocks on 2012 Enigma full...full...smiles - enjoy! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908 if you have trouble opening this video go to the link and scroll down and watch: http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=374Itemid=70 lovelove, solarlotus
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] State of Samadhi in the life of Ramakrishna
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matrixmonitor Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] State of Samadhi in the life of Ramakrishna from geocities. Comparing this experience to the statements of MMY, my conclusion is that Ramakrishna's experience is a case of a lack of integration.: I once heard a story (perhaps my cat told me, Nabby) that Maharishi was visiting another master, or vice versa, and the master had a few of his disciples go into a state of Samadhi like the one in the Ramakrishna story – oblivious to external stimuli. He then asked Maharishi if any of his disciples could do that and Maharishi answered, “Not yet.” There are many ancient and contemporary accounts of saints and yogis entering into states of absorption like that. I wouldn’t call it a lack of integration. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 1:41 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
I'll give you a different example. What color is a yellow banana? - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Krauts bar American Ph.D.'s From Calling Themselves Doctor
The letter that Ian T. Baldwin, director of a prestigious research institute in Jena, Germany, received on January 9 from the Thuringian state police informed him that he was being charged with a crime. The letter was straightforward enough, but the crime was bafflingly obscure. It said I was being charged with Missbrauchs von Titeln, or misuse of title, and that I had to appear at the police station, Mr. Baldwin said today by telephone. I looked up on the Web what Missbrauchs von Titeln meant. It's used for people who impersonate police officers. If convicted, Mr. Baldwin, who directs the Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology, could face a hefty fine and as much as a year in jail. Mr. Baldwin's crime, under a Nazi-era law governing the use of academic titles, was to assume that his doctorate from Cornell University entitled him to call himself Doctor in Germany. The honorific, apparently, is reserved for recipients of doctoral degrees from German universities. (more) http://tinyurl.com/ypxd79 http://chronicle.com/news/index.php?id=4134utm_source=pmutm_medium=en
Re: [FairfieldLife] Krauts bar American Ph.D.'s From Calling Themselves Doctor
I think it's probably a case of tit for tat. America does not recognize several kinds of degrees from foreign universities. And in the case of a Ph.D. the requirements are quite different in the two countries. In the U.S. a doctoral dissertation is required. In Germany, a doctoral dissertation and a second work of bigger proportions are required. The second work is the so-called Habilitationsschrift. T --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The letter that Ian T. Baldwin, director of a prestigious research institute in Jena, Germany, received on January 9 from the Thuringian state police informed him that he was being charged with a crime. The letter was straightforward enough, but the crime was bafflingly obscure. It said I was being charged with Missbrauchs von Titeln, or misuse of title, and that I had to appear at the police station, Mr. Baldwin said today by telephone. I looked up on the Web what Missbrauchs von Titeln meant. It's used for people who impersonate police officers. If convicted, Mr. Baldwin, who directs the Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology, could face a hefty fine and as much as a year in jail. Mr. Baldwin's crime, under a Nazi-era law governing the use of academic titles, was to assume that his doctorate from Cornell University entitled him to call himself Doctor in Germany. The honorific, apparently, is reserved for recipients of doctoral degrees from German universities. (more) http://tinyurl.com/ypxd79 http://chronicle.com/news/index.php?id=4134utm_source=pmutm_medium=en Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
So is a banana split integrated? --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a different example. What color is a yellow banana? - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Krauts bar American Ph.D.'s From Calling Themselves Doctor
How do you like being referred to as a Kraut? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's probably a case of tit for tat. America does not recognize several kinds of degrees from foreign universities. And in the case of a Ph.D. the requirements are quite different in the two countries. In the U.S. a doctoral dissertation is required. In Germany, a doctoral dissertation and a second work of bigger proportions are required. The second work is the so-called Habilitationsschrift. T --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The letter that Ian T. Baldwin, director of a prestigious research institute in Jena, Germany, received on January 9 from the Thuringian state police informed him that he was being charged with a crime. The letter was straightforward enough, but the crime was bafflingly obscure. It said I was being charged with Missbrauchs von Titeln, or misuse of title, and that I had to appear at the police station, Mr. Baldwin said today by telephone. I looked up on the Web what Missbrauchs von Titeln meant. It's used for people who impersonate police officers. If convicted, Mr. Baldwin, who directs the Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology, could face a hefty fine and as much as a year in jail. Mr. Baldwin's crime, under a Nazi-era law governing the use of academic titles, was to assume that his doctorate from Cornell University entitled him to call himself Doctor in Germany. The honorific, apparently, is reserved for recipients of doctoral degrees from German universities. (more) http://tinyurl.com/ypxd79 http://chronicle.com/news/index.php? id=4134utm_source=pmutm_medium=en Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
You didn't answer my question. It's all in your perspective. Because yellow is the one color a yellow banana reflects thus it absorbs all other colors. Therefore a yellow banana is any color other than yellow. - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency So is a banana split integrated? --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a different example. What color is a yellow banana? - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] 'Barack= Inspiring, Clear, Righteous/ Hillary...Not'
It has very little to do with being black. It has to do with hitting the right tone, at the right time. The Beatles were like that- they hit the right tone, at the right time. He has something called natural God-given talent. That's what wins- talent, talent, talent.. Don't you get it Geraldine- you have little talent, and less perception. Just like Hillary, you are more of a Lieutenant , than a General. It's like comparing George Washington to George Bush... Their George's and their both White Robert Gimbel Seattle, Washington 2008 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Sig Raja ! ! ! (Re:Krauts bar American Ph.D.'s From Calling Themselves Doctor)
H, isn't Kraut considered perjorative these days? I think it is about as offensive as, say, wop, and not quite as offensive as, say, slope. I guess it's only a little worse than calling a French person a frog or a Brit limey, but, don't know, seems that Kraut is a titch more baddish enough to be wary about its causal use. Correlatively, I could call almost anyone a frog, limey, but when I get to a word that the people themselves use like canuck then I get confused as to whether I could use that word in polite company in Canada. With my Jewish friends, I have sometimes used the word Jew with not quite right a tone in my voice and gotten heat for it. Live N Learn, eh? I'm not thinking Bob used the word with any negative intent, honest, but if a certain other person had posted with Kraut in the title, I'd probably be slavering about it for at least ten over-the-top demonizations, eh, but Bob gets a free pass from me. Sigh. I wonder what the laws in Germany are regarding calling oneself a Raja? Rajas and Aryans and Master Race, oh my. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The letter that Ian T. Baldwin, director of a prestigious research institute in Jena, Germany, received on January 9 from the Thuringian state police informed him that he was being charged with a crime. The letter was straightforward enough, but the crime was bafflingly obscure. It said I was being charged with Missbrauchs von Titeln, or misuse of title, and that I had to appear at the police station, Mr. Baldwin said today by telephone. I looked up on the Web what Missbrauchs von Titeln meant. It's used for people who impersonate police officers. If convicted, Mr. Baldwin, who directs the Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology, could face a hefty fine and as much as a year in jail. Mr. Baldwin's crime, under a Nazi-era law governing the use of academic titles, was to assume that his doctorate from Cornell University entitled him to call himself Doctor in Germany. The honorific, apparently, is reserved for recipients of doctoral degrees from German universities. (more) http://tinyurl.com/ypxd79 http://chronicle.com/news/index.php?id=4134utm_source=pmutm_medium=en
Re: [FairfieldLife] Krauts bar American Ph.D.'s From Calling Themselves Doctor
On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:05 PM, bob_brigante wrote: Mr. Baldwin's crime, under a Nazi-era law governing the use of academic titles, was to assume that his doctorate from Cornell University entitled him to call himself Doctor in Germany. The honorific, apparently, is reserved for recipients of doctoral degrees from German universities. I wonder what they'd think of all the phony honorary docs that have come from MUM. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
So let me ask you another simple question - what keeps a plane in the air? - Original Message - From: Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency You didn't answer my question. It's all in your perspective. Because yellow is the one color a yellow banana reflects thus it absorbs all other colors. Therefore a yellow banana is any color other than yellow. - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency So is a banana split integrated? --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a different example. What color is a yellow banana? - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
Wow! Right on the money Kirk. It appears you know just what I'm talking about. Lucky's a very dignified creature who has seen much. I have a lot of respect for folks who do animal rescue. Every pet I have had has seemed to find me thru some rescue outfit. Go figure.. Lots of synchronicity going on with that link you provided. I find it best to never ignore serendipity as my experiences with it are unfailingly positive and often constructively life changing. I drive thru the area they dwell regularly, most commonly in summer, on my way to the Mogollon Rim and the White Mountains when I need to cool off and work on my fly fishing sutras. It is an especially beautiful valley with about 5x the rainfall of the lower desert. Last time I stopped, it was to eat at Alice's Restaurant. Seriously. I have also, lately, felt an impulse to learn Mindfullness meditation and am set to receive my first instructions later in the month. I would feel privileged should my travels cross Kunzang and Lucky. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this dog out http://fromdakinivalley.blogspot.com/2007/12/bag-ladies.html - Original Message - From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech Often a stranger remarked he looks contemplative. Greyhounds do have a stillness vibe. They are remarkably calm, almost as still as a cat. Whatever creature you hang out with must affect at least your mood. I grew up with a monkey when I was a kid, so I guess the effects can be pretty long term! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of Stu Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech The best test: Give the practice a shot. Try using Om for a week. I've been meditating with an OM mantra for about 5 years. Meditate in the sun or with a pet. There's often a cat or dog on the bed with me. Many a time my 3 greyhounds sat in my meditation room with me before they met mahasamadhi. I often wondered if they were mooching prana just kidding as they each lived to 15. Quite old for such a large breed. Once I got the 96 pound male clear that he should not try and sit on my lap while I meditated, all was good. Subjectively, some of my deepest experiences were with them in the room. A raised eyebrow, gentle snore, or a soft smile often indicated they were probably further on the path that I. Not sure of all breeds, but some greyhounds can definitely smile. Kinda unnerving if you had never seen it before. All anthropomorphism aside, one was unequivocally an old soul. Often a stranger remarked he looks contemplative. The old Lama would never interrupt my meditation. Having had scores of pets including pigeons, a goat, horses, and a pig, that greyhound was the only one that seemed to have clearly been here before...perhaps many times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
It is interesting you picked up on that stillness. Many folks who have only seen them at race tracks, muzzled and ready to do what 2 or 3 thousand years of breeding has prepared them for, presume they are hyper nervous drooling pupil dilated chaseafugginrabbitat45milesanhour beasts who would me impossible to to control. The broad effort at placement in homes over the last 20 or so years has somewhat changed that impression. The largest of the 3 main adoption outfits here has placed 500 dogs a year for the better part of 2 decades. As they are sprinters not long distance runners, they require a surprising little amount of exercise. Its kinda cool seeing a world class athlete that wants to spend 90% of the time laying on the couch. When they go from the stressed world of the track to a home, the transformation is remarkable. They are, in many ways, quite feline. Lazy. Imperturbable. Sometimes sneaky. Quiet and rarely bark. Not what I would call the smartest breed I've been around, but extremely intuitive. That mood thing goes both ways. They tend to be very sensitive to the mood of the person they are with. Don't immediately give unconditional trust like most dogs. Their trust must be earned.once accomplished, often quickly, it lasts till the heart stops beating. Your monkey must have been a very talented one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Often a stranger remarked he looks contemplative. Greyhounds do have a stillness vibe. They are remarkably calm, almost as still as a cat. Whatever creature you hang out with must affect at least your mood. I grew up with a monkey when I was a kid, so I guess the effects can be pretty long term!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Open letter to raja John Konhaus other rajas and leaders of TM movement
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/38tm9g An iSkin? Sounds like a new brand of condom. I guess in a way it is: Practice safe ranting; sheath your weapon. :-) I wonder what happened to Ruth. Hope she just is just busy with work and life and that the negativity her last posts were met with did not chase her away. Indeed. I suspect that the tendency here to damn the individual because one doesn't agree with what they are saying is a bit of a shocker. She has a good heart and great spirit and added to this board. Indeed. A perusal of the archives indicates she would not be the first. Message boards can be a bit rough. Common civility is lost easily. I must admit restraining myself from lashing out and asking if a poster had skipped taking court ordered meds. I would think less of myself if I should. Now, tellin someone to GFY is different.just kiddin Vaj and Judy seem to have different perspectives on her returning...among other things. grin The note Vaj posted makes perfect sense. She is a professional in her field who was often kneecapped here by people that could learn a lot by listening. Questioning integrity was poison in her world. Thoughtlessness and malice has a cost. It is rare to have a knowledge resource such as her, with humanness, on a board like this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Bhairitu on OM, was: Your replies to my inquiries about TM tech
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you still practice the siddhis Rick? No. I'm open to giving them a try again someday, but I haven't done them for about 5 years now. I'd rather just meditate. Interesting. Thanks for the reply. I haven't done them since the millennium. Experiences in program were clear and good, but what I carried into day to day life was increasingly not comfortable. Very powerful stuff. I too prefer meditation but may give them a try again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: State of Samadhi in the life of Ramakrishna
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from geocities. Comparing this experience to the statements of MMY, my conclusion is that Ramakrishna's experience is a case of a lack of integration.: State Of Samadhi in the Life of Sri Ramakrishna During the sadhana of Vedanta, Sri Ramakrishna tried to transcend all the limitations of body-mind duality. Under the guidance of his teacher - Tota Puri - Sri Ramakrishna took to the practice with intense zeal and determination that knew no bounds. When the effulgent form of Mother obstructed his entry into the realm of superconscious state, he put an end to it with the 'sword of discrimination'. He went into a state of highest nondual consciousness and was established in Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Continuously for three days Sri Ramakrishna was lost in that state, sitting like a stone - lifeless to outer world and stimuli. His face was calm, serene, and radiant. A doctor examined the functions of his heart and lungs, but he was dead like a wood to the external stimuli. After three days he gradually regained his normal consciousness. Afterwards Sri Ramakrishna was in state of samadhi continuously for six months. * We intently watched Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in samadhi. His whole body relaxed and then became slightly rigid. There was no twitching of the muscles or the nerves, no movement of any limb. Both his hands lay in his lap with the fingers lightly interlocked. The sitting posture of the body was easy but absolutely motionless. The face was slightly tilted up and in repose. The eyes were nearly but not wholly closed. The eyeballs were not turned up or otherwise deflected, but they were fixed and conveyed no message of outer objects to the brain. The lips were parted in a beatific and indescribable smile. There was something in that wonderful smile which no photograph was ever able to reproduce. * In the state of samadhi the master's body was bent on one side and therefore the cameraman went to make him sit erect by softly adjusting his chin. But as soon as he touched the chin the whole body of the Master came up like a piece of paper - so light it was. The Master was completely unaware of this incidence. Swami Nirvanananda said that he had heard that people experiencing samadhi of a certain type or depth generally do become light. What a great account, interesting that his head *did not fall* onto his chest, but the body was in an immobile fixed *upright* state, true transcendental consciousness or Samadhi. Unlike many meditators who fall asleep in meditation, assume a poor posture and call that successful meditation! It may have been successful sleep but hardly merits the term meditation (dhyana) in the true sense of the word!
[FairfieldLife] MMY defines Cosmic Consciousness. as Ultimate Supreme Reality.
Soon he arrived at the Heatless Smokeless Effulgent of the Self and realized the Divine Truth, the Cosmic Consciousness, the Ultimate Supreme Reality, Sat Chit Anandam, the Nirvana. Love and God MMY This is relevant because most schools of Yoga refer to the opening of the seventh chakra as Cosmic Consciousness, (the highest Nirvikalpa Samadhi) so this is consistent with them. However, later on, MMY changed the definition to CC, GC, and then UC, and turned everything on its head! MMY should have remained faithful to the then established standard of CC being the highest human attainment. Under MMY's system Self Realization, which actually occurs with the opening of the 6th Ajna chakra (not the highest), is already called Cosmic Consciousness! which doesn't actually occur in classical Yoga until the opening of the 7th which MMY now calls Unity!; just more confusion that's all! P.S. No wonder his Gita is confusing vis-a-vis the higher states of consciousness, where he 'takes liberty' with the established patterns.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Krauts bar American Ph.D.'s From Calling Themselves Doctor
The word itself is neutral to me. The intention of the speaker gives it its coloration. When I call my brother-in-law a nigger, it's a term of endearment, and we both know it. But there are people who'd get their heads kicked in if they called him that. a --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you like being referred to as a Kraut? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's probably a case of tit for tat. America does not recognize several kinds of degrees from foreign universities. And in the case of a Ph.D. the requirements are quite different in the two countries. In the U.S. a doctoral dissertation is required. In Germany, a doctoral dissertation and a second work of bigger proportions are required. The second work is the so-called Habilitationsschrift. T --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The letter that Ian T. Baldwin, director of a prestigious research institute in Jena, Germany, received on January 9 from the Thuringian state police informed him that he was being charged with a crime. The letter was straightforward enough, but the crime was bafflingly obscure. It said I was being charged with Missbrauchs von Titeln, or misuse of title, and that I had to appear at the police station, Mr. Baldwin said today by telephone. I looked up on the Web what Missbrauchs von Titeln meant. It's used for people who impersonate police officers. If convicted, Mr. Baldwin, who directs the Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology, could face a hefty fine and as much as a year in jail. Mr. Baldwin's crime, under a Nazi-era law governing the use of academic titles, was to assume that his doctorate from Cornell University entitled him to call himself Doctor in Germany. The honorific, apparently, is reserved for recipients of doctoral degrees from German universities. (more) http://tinyurl.com/ypxd79 http://chronicle.com/news/index.php? id=4134utm_source=pmutm_medium=en Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
Well, thanks bunches for enlightening me. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't answer my question. It's all in your perspective. Because yellow is the one color a yellow banana reflects thus it absorbs all other colors. Therefore a yellow banana is any color other than yellow. - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency So is a banana split integrated? --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a different example. What color is a yellow banana? - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency
Air --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let me ask you another simple question - what keeps a plane in the air? - Original Message - From: Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency You didn't answer my question. It's all in your perspective. Because yellow is the one color a yellow banana reflects thus it absorbs all other colors. Therefore a yellow banana is any color other than yellow. - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency So is a banana split integrated? --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a different example. What color is a yellow banana? - Original Message - From: Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heterogeneous Versus Homogeneous Philosophies and Transparency The syntax of your last sentence is not entirely transparent to me. Please clarify. --- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homogenized milk is actually heterogeneous. Homogenous means -same throughout- and is always clear though it may have color. This is because compounds in such mixtures are perfectly integrated. Heterogeneous mixtures show compounds, such as in the whitish color of particles in milk. They may be well suspended, but they still stand out. Thus transparency is a feature of true integration. Heterogeneous solutions will show different mixtures at different spots. Thus ambivalence. We could use these two analogies to decide whether a person or group of either spiritual or political entities is integral or merely appropriating. Someone of integrity is transparent because homogeneous in their ethics, ontology, epistimology. Someone else, like in homogenized milk, may seem to be something and yet they aren't. In fact it's almost a truism that the more someone seems like something the less they are that. It is almost certain that the most integrated people cannot be discerned in any possible way being most transparent. It stands to reason. Okay, now you try it, look around and see. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com