[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama levitates! He floats!

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It says so in the Guardian! (see the 4th para -- over the top of
 course but who cares?) If I were McCain, I would just give up. He
 can't compete with this guy. Landslide in November! Remember, you 
read
 it here first. 


Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?

All he's done in his life was being a comunity organiser and 
apparently not a very successful one.

Oh, yes, I forgot: he has also, at age 46, written two -- count 'em 
two -- autobiographies.

And as for policy, no one has ANY idea what he stands for because he 
changes his positions from day to day.

So when people look to his past for a clue what he stands for or what 
his personality is like, they find that he spent 20 years listening 
to a racist demagogue.

Yes, he gives good speech but when he has to speak off-the-cuff he 
looks like a deer caught in the headlights.








 
 US elections: Obama wows Berlin crowd with historic speech
 
 For the man who has brought rock-star charisma to electoral 
politics,
 today saw the campaign rally as pop festival, a summer gathering of
 peace, love - and loathing of George Bush.
 
 Taking what he calls his improbable journey to the heart of 
Europe,
 Barack Obama succeeded in closing down one of Berlin's main
 thoroughfares tonight, luring the city's young in their tens of
 thousands to stand in the evening sunshine and hear him spin his
 dreams of hope, not for America this time, but for the whole world.
 The young and the pierced, some with guitars slung over their
 shoulders, others barefoot, jammed up against each other to cheer 
on a
 man who in less than a year has become the world's most popular
 serving politician, even if, as yet, he has been elected to no 
office
 grander than the junior Senate seat for Illinois.
 
 Expectations had been impossibly high, with predictions of a
 million-strong crowd filling the Strasse des 17 Juni, the wide 
avenue
 that links the Brandenburg Gate with the looming, gold-topped 
Victory
 column of the Siegessäule.
 
 The candidate himself had sought to lower expectations, telling
 reporters on the plane from Tel Aviv that he doubted he would be
 greeted in Berlin by a million screaming Germans.
 Once the Glastonbury-style warm-up bands and DJs had quieted, the
 Democratic nominee almost floated into view, walking to the podium 
on
 a raised, blue-carpeted runway, as if he were somehow, magically,
 walking on water. Even from a distance, the brilliant white of his
 teeth dazzled.
 
 It was a reminder that the latest edition of Stern magazine features
 Obama on the cover, above the line Saviour - or demagogue?
 
 The speech was not one of Obama's masterpieces, but it certainly
 cleared the exceptionally high standard he has set himself.
 Poetically, he reminded Berliners of what they would surely regard 
as
 their finest hours, their resilience during the blockade some 60 
years
 ago - when the Soviet Union tried to extinguish the last flame of
 freedom in Berlin - and the fall of the wall in 1989, an event 
which
 opened the doors of democracy all over the world.
 
 But the loudest applause came when Obama, however subtly, offered
 himself as the coming antidote to all that Germans, Europeans, 
indeed
 most non-Americans, have disliked about the Bush era.
 
 After listing a series of global problems, from genocide in Darfur 
to
 loose nukes, he declared: No one nation, no matter how large or how
 powerful, can defeat such challenges alone. It was a promise to end
 the unilateralism of the early Bush years, and the crowd could not
 contain their delight.
 
 There was no less warmth when Obama explained his belief in allies
 who will listen to each other, who will learn from each other who
 will, above all, trust each other.
 
 Again and again he uttered sentences that could never have come from
 the mouth of George W Bush, and Berlin could not have been more 
grateful.
 
 This is the moment to secure the peace of the world without nuclear
 weapons, he said. On Iraq, the aim was to finally bring this war 
to
 a close. He asked if today's generation was ready to seize the 
moment
 that was at hand. Will we reject torture and stand for the rule of
 law? he asked. Will we welcome immigrants from different lands?
 
 As for the threat of climate change, he spoke in language that could
 not have been more sweeping or more epic: This is the moment we 
must
 come together to save this planet. (Was that saviour or demagogue -
 or both?)
 
 He didn't spell out that he would reverse much of the course of the
 last eight years, but that was only because he didn't have to.
 
 This is an anti-Bush rally, said one man, an employee of the 
German
 government, reluctant to reveal his name because of his job.
 
 The last time he had seen such a crowd in the same place was for the
 Love Parade music festival, and you can see the similarities, he
 said. There was only one dissonant note, but Obama's 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation

2008-07-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please forward the studio recording of you recent album. I'd like to  
 replace all the I-IV-V blues progressions with a I-IV-VII 

Does 'VII' refer to the subtonic chord (in C, B-flat)?






[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrate 25th Anniversary of Taste of Utopia-Thurs. July 24, 8:15pm

2008-07-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 
 Who cares about something that happened in 1983. Jesus Christ! I was 
 there, incredible course. Cosmic Devas dancing in the frozen air. 
 Samadhi so silent you got pulled down deeper and deeper. Blazing 
 waves of bliss, clear ritam. BUT IT WAS SO MANY YEARS AGO! Just an 
 age of enlightenment circle jerk IMHO.
 
 This was an event of unforeseen consequenses, a historic jump, one of 
 many historic mooves by Maharishi. A great thing for eternity of 
 mankind.
 
 Since time immorial, since when had so many Sidhas gathered in one 
 place, probably not since 100,ooo years.

FWIW, according to a hypothesis, all modern humans are
 descendants of prolly only a couple of thousand homo sapiens'es,
who survived, somewhere in Eastern Africa, a major volcanic eruption,
that caused a global catastrophe.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama levitates! He floats!

2008-07-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  It says so in the Guardian! (see the 4th para -- over the top of
  course but who cares?) If I were McCain, I would just give up. He
  can't compete with this guy. Landslide in November! Remember, you 
 read
  it here first. 
 
 
 Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
 
 All he's done in his life was being a comunity organiser and 
 apparently not a very successful one.
 
 Oh, yes, I forgot: he has also, at age 46, written two -- count 'em 
 two -- autobiographies.
 
 And as for policy, no one has ANY idea what he stands for because he 
 changes his positions from day to day.
 
 So when people look to his past for a clue what he stands for or what 
 his personality is like, they find that he spent 20 years listening 
 to a racist demagogue.
 
 Yes, he gives good speech but when he has to speak off-the-cuff he 
 looks like a deer caught in the headlights.
 

Yes...
Extemporaneous speaking is one of John McCain's biggest strengths...


LOL.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall -- not 
 Roman as claimed?
 
 This ia interesting:
 http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
 
 OffWorld


Heavens! That seems to be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama levitates! He floats!

2008-07-25 Thread Peter
--- On Fri, 7/25/08, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama levitates! He floats!
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 4:40 AM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   It says so in the Guardian! (see the 4th para --
 over the top of
   course but who cares?) If I were McCain, I would
 just give up. He
   can't compete with this guy. Landslide in
 November! Remember, you 
  read
   it here first. 
  
  
  Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
  
  All he's done in his life was being a
 comunity organiser and 
  apparently not a very successful one.
  
  Oh, yes, I forgot: he has also, at age 46, written two
 -- count 'em 
  two -- autobiographies.
  
  And as for policy, no one has ANY idea what he stands
 for because he 
  changes his positions from day to day.
  
  So when people look to his past for a clue what he
 stands for or what 
  his personality is like, they find that he spent 20
 years listening 
  to a racist demagogue.
  
  Yes, he gives good speech but when he has
 to speak off-the-cuff he 
  looks like a deer caught in the headlights.
  
 
 Yes...
 Extemporaneous speaking is one of John McCain's biggest
 strengths...

When John McCain was his on person he came across as having a personal 
integrity and honesty that was refreshing for a Republican. But now he has to 
pretend to be a neo-conservative to court this vote and to toe the party line. 
He's just a Bush toady now. A real loss. 









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation

2008-07-25 Thread Vaj


On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:38 AM, cardemaister wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Please forward the studio recording of you recent album. I'd like to
replace all the I-IV-V blues progressions with a I-IV-VII


Does 'VII' refer to the subtonic chord (in C, B-flat)?



In C, it would be B in the Ionian mode. In the harmonized scale, the  
7th harmonization is a dissonant sounding diminished chord. Thus a  
chord sequence in that progression would be very dissonant sounding,  
to some almost unlistenable, chord sequence.

[FairfieldLife] Immortel (Ad Vitam)

2008-07-25 Thread Vaj

Any Sci-Fi fans seen this? A friend recommends it:

Do you get showtime 3, channel 539 on direct TV?  If you do, I highly  
recommend you tivo Immortal.  It's on next saturday.


Here's a summary from a blog:

 Immortel (Ad Vitam) (original French title) is a CGI and live  
action film, directed by Enki Bilal from his own comics.


 It's 2095 in New York a huge company controls the city that deals  
in synthetic human parts (hense the CGI characters). Meanwhile a  
pyramid full of Egyptian gods hangs in the sky, Horus who has been  
sentenced to death, leaves to procreate. A Blue alien girl, Jill is  
the subject of much fansicnation of a doctor who puts her through a  
series of test. She has no memory and doesn't know where she came  
from. Jill is also the focus of Horus' procreation attempts (because  
one of her many talentes is the abiltiy to mate with gods) while  
using and inhabiting  the body of a recently unfrozen criminal  
(Nikopol) who he released from hibernationthe way you do.


 I found it quite visual stunning and atmospheric. The story's quite  
good, surreal would be a good description. Bibal is part of a group  
of comic artist's who didn't believe you had to explain things. But  
the film storyline is much more cohesive than the orginal comics.  
Adapted from bits of his Nikopol trilogy with some elements of his  
more recent Hatzfeld Trilogy.


 The CGI characters jar at first, but although not as fully rended  
as we are used to from USA they had alot more presence and quirkiness  
than their american counterparts.

 Overall the melancholic style and French flair shine through.

 It has shades of 5th Element, with the Egyptian thing.. But since  
the original comics were made in the 1970's perhaps it's the other  
way around. I was reminded of Moebius' comics all the way through. I  
wasn't surprised to learn Bilal was heavily influenced by him early  
on in his career.


Also, SHO3 is repeating American Drug War, a good documentary on  
the phony drug war in this country.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall -- not 
  Roman as claimed?
  
  This ia interesting:
  http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 Heavens! That seems to be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?


I don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
The temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although the 
Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the 
foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, and it 
looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not move 
blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are also as 
tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but much bigger 
blocks. 

OffWorld




Re: [FairfieldLife] Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread Peter
Interesting story about the stones. I was following some of the links from this 
site and came across the Sri Yantra story and Bill Weatherspoon . Its amazing 
how even today that UFO cultist still insist that Bill and his crew did not 
construct the sri yantra. Talk about the power of belief!


--- On Thu, 7/24/08, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as 
 claimed?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:52 PM
 Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall
 -- not 
 Roman as claimed?
 
 This ia interesting:
 http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world -I have visit same

2008-07-25 Thread WLeed3
They may have indeed been built prior to our written history in MY opinion.  
Been there 11  or 14 times on some day trips  weekly trips. Also  for my 
friend Erick {(Von Daonican) spelling is in error here } too  lazy to look 
it 
up 4 us here now,  some of his books a poor scholar   NOT willing to 
correct his errors. He is of Swiss origion  has  several books out etc. I feel 
that 
according to some cuniform tablets  they  were used by the watchers  alians 
as a space port, several Russian writers  concut or speculate such as well 
Emanuel (Verishosfisky) spelling agan.  They are some 27 or 8 miles up hill 
from 
the quarry cite  there is a  cap stone 1/2 way to the temple cite  there as 
well  there were  temples there before the present Roman temple.
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2008 8:57:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
   Largest stone blocks in the world, perfectly fitted in wall -- not 
   Roman as claimed?
  
  This ia interesting:
   http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
  
   OffWorld
 
 
 Heavens! That seems to be about 20X  larger than the Stonehenge blocks?


I don't know how much  bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
The temple is claimed to have  been built by the Romans (although the 
Romans did not record this great  feat of engineering, and the 
foundation blocks are way more eroded than  the Roman building, and it 
looks like the Romans built on top of it. The  Romans could not move 
blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt.  They are also as 
tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls -  but much bigger 
blocks.  

OffWorld





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall -- not 
   Roman as claimed?
   
   This ia interesting:
   http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  Heavens! That seems to be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?
 
 
 I don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
 The temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although the 
 Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the 
 foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, and it 
 looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not move 
 blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are also as 
 tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but much bigger 
 blocks. 

I am a sucker for that sort of thing! 

I guess you saw that stuff on the Sphinx a while back? There was a
highly respected geologist who was asserting that it must be way older
than the archaeologists thought (he considered the latter to be
geologically illiterate). His thinking was that the erosion signature
 implied a wetter climate, which means an age of 1 years or more.
I haven't seen any more on that. In fact, come to think of it, where's
that Graham Hancock fellah these days?









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as clai...

2008-07-25 Thread WLeed3
Gram   friends are  writing another book I am in  coloboration with.
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2008 9:12:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ 
  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   Largest stone blocks in the world, perfectly fitted in  wall -- not 
   Roman as claimed?
   
This ia interesting:
http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
   
OffWorld
  
  
  Heavens! That seems to  be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?
 
  
 I don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible  eh.
 The temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although  the 
 Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the  
 foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, and it  
 looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not move  
 blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are also as  
 tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but much  bigger 
 blocks. 

I am a sucker for that sort of thing!  

I guess you saw that stuff on the Sphinx a while back? There was  a
highly respected geologist who was asserting that it must be way  older
than the archaeologists thought (he considered the latter to  be
geologically illiterate). His thinking was that the erosion  signature
implied a wetter climate, which means an age of 1 years or  more.
I haven't seen any more on that. In fact, come to think of it,  where's
that Graham Hancock fellah these  days?











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Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world -I have visit same

2008-07-25 Thread WLeed3


 
  

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 7/25/2008 9:10:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time
Subj: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world -I  have 
visit same


They may have indeed been built prior to our written history in MY  opinion. 
Been there 11  or 14 times on some day trips  weekly  trips. Also for my 
friend Erick {(Von Daonican) spelling is in error here  } too lazy to look 
it 
up 4 us here now,  some of his books  a poor scholar  NOT willing to 
correct his errors. He is of Swiss origion   has several books out etc. I feel 
that 
according to some cuniform  tablets  they were used by the watchers  alians 
as a space port,  several Russian writers concut or speculate such as well 
Emanuel  (Verishosfisky) spelling agan. They are some 27 or 8 miles up hill 
from  
the quarry cite  there is a cap stone 1/2 way to the temple cite   there as 
well  there were temples there before the present Roman  temple.
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2008 8:57:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
   Largest stone blocks in the world, perfectly fitted in wall -- not 
   Roman as claimed?
  
  This ia  interesting:
  http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
   
  OffWorld
 
 
 Heavens! That seems to  be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?


I don't  know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
The temple is  claimed to have been built by the Romans (although the 
Romans did not  record this great feat of engineering, and the 
foundation blocks are way  more eroded than the Roman building, and it 
looks like the Romans built  on top of it. The Romans could not move 
blocks like that around when  they tried in Egypt. They are also as 
tightly fitted as the ancient Inca  and Peruvian walls - but much bigger 
blocks.  

OffWorld





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2008-07-25 Thread WLeed3


 
  

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To:  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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as clai...


Gram   friends are  writing another book I am in  coloboration with.
 
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ 
  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   Largest stone blocks in the world, perfectly fitted  in wall -- not 
   Roman as claimed?

   This ia interesting:
http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
   
OffWorld
  
  
  Heavens! That seems to  be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?
 
  
 I don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible  eh.
 The temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although  the 
 Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the  
 foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, and  it 
 looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not  move 
 blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are  also as 
 tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but  much bigger 
 blocks. 

I am a sucker for that sort of thing!  

I guess you saw that stuff on the Sphinx a while back? There was  a
highly respected geologist who was asserting that it must be way  older
than the archaeologists thought (he considered the latter to  be
geologically illiterate). His thinking was that the erosion  signature
implied a wetter climate, which means an age of 1 years or  more.
I haven't seen any more on that. In fact, come to think of it,  where's
that Graham Hancock fellah these  days?











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Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world -I have visit same

2008-07-25 Thread WLeed3


 
  

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visit same





  

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To:  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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visit same


They may have indeed been built prior to our written history in MY  opinion. 
Been there 11  or 14 times on some day trips  weekly  trips. Also for my 
friend Erick {(Von Daonican) spelling is in error here  } too lazy to look 
it 
up 4 us here now,  some of his  books a poor scholar  NOT willing to 
correct his errors. He is of Swiss  origion  has several books out etc. I feel 
that 
according to some  cuniform tablets  they were used by the watchers  alians 
as a  space port, several Russian writers concut or speculate such as well 
Emanuel  (Verishosfisky) spelling agan. They are some 27 or 8 miles up hill 
from  
the quarry cite  there is a cap stone 1/2 way to the temple cite   there as 
well  there were temples there before the present Roman  temple.
 
 
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   Largest stone blocks in the world, perfectly fitted in wall -- not  
  Roman as claimed?
  
  This ia  interesting:
  http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
   
  OffWorld
 
 
 Heavens! That seems  to be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?


I  don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
The  temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although the  
Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the  
foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, and it  
looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not move  
blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are also as  
tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but much  bigger 
blocks.  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
no_reply@
   wrote:
   
Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall -
- not 
Roman as claimed?

This ia interesting:
http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm

OffWorld
   
   
   Heavens! That seems to be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge 
blocks?
  
  
  I don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
  The temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although 
the 
  Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the 
  foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, 
and it 
  looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not 
move 
  blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are also 
as 
  tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but much 
bigger 
  blocks. 
 
 I am a sucker for that sort of thing! 
 
 I guess you saw that stuff on the Sphinx a while back? There was a
 highly respected geologist who was asserting that it must be way 
older
 than the archaeologists thought (he considered the latter to be
 geologically illiterate). His thinking was that the erosion 
signature
  implied a wetter climate, which means an age of 1 years or 
more.
 I haven't seen any more on that. In fact, come to think of it, 
where's
 that Graham Hancock fellah these days?

I thought the stuff on the Sphinx was interesting, and it is likely 
older than thought (or at least the base of it.) Nowadays I think you 
probably need a special archeological permit to get anywhere near 
enough to study it and if you are not toeing the line of conventional 
theory, then you will not get the permit. Interesting also that the 
two tombstones in the Taj Mahal look like they are stuck on top of 3 
plynths that are not Muslim, and that 200 years before Shajahan, the 
supposed builder of the Taj Mahal, entered the city with his armies, 
his great grandfather had recorded entering the city and described 
the wonders of the already existing Taj Mahal!

If you add to that that they found the remains of a city under the 
sea off the East coast of India (maybe one on West coast too) that 
according to geoligists must be at LEAST 9,000 years old then 
questions start to arise about the veracity of the conventional 
archeology - which was really formulated in the 19th century.

(Graham Hanckock has a website if you are looking for his latest)

OffWorld 



[FairfieldLife] Indus Valley civilization - much bigger, older, than thought

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
Indus Valley civilization - much bigger, older, than previously thought:

Extracts from the journal Science:

http://pakistaniat.com/2008/07/20/science-indus-harappa/

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world -I have visit same

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They may have indeed been built prior to our written history in MY 
opinion.  
 Been there 11  or 14 times on some day trips  weekly trips. Also  
for my 
 friend Erick {(Von Daonican) spelling is in error here } too  
lazy to look it 
 up 4 us here now,  some of his books a poor scholar   NOT willing 
to 
 correct his errors. He is of Swiss origion  has  several books out 
etc. I feel that 
 according to some cuniform tablets  they  were used by the 
watchers  alians 
 as a space port, several Russian writers  concut or speculate such 
as well 
 Emanuel (Verishosfisky) spelling agan.  They are some 27 or 8 miles 
up hill from 
 the quarry cite  there is a  cap stone 1/2 way to the temple cite  
there as 
 well  there were  temples there before the present Roman temple.


Yea, I was wondering about those buildings around it, they look even 
more interesting.
May need to take a trip to Lebanon !

OffWorld

  
  
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 --- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@  
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Largest stone blocks in the world, perfectly fitted in wall -- 
not 
Roman as claimed?
   
   This ia interesting:
http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
   
OffWorld
  
  
  Heavens! That seems to be about 20X  larger than the Stonehenge 
blocks?
 
 
 I don't know how much  bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
 The temple is claimed to have  been built by the Romans (although 
the 
 Romans did not record this great  feat of engineering, and the 
 foundation blocks are way more eroded than  the Roman building, and 
it 
 looks like the Romans built on top of it. The  Romans could not 
move 
 blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt.  They are also as 
 tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls -  but much 
bigger 
 blocks.  
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
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 Interesting story about the stones. I was following some of the 
links from this site and came across the Sri Yantra story and Bill 
Weatherspoon . Its amazing how even today that UFO cultist still 
insist that Bill and his crew did not construct the sri yantra. Talk 
about the power of belief!

I remember that whole thing about Witherspoon. It is very funny. 

That is why evidence in peer-reviewed scientific journals on all 
subjects is important ;-)

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  Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:52 PM
  Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall
  -- not 
  Roman as claimed?
  
  This ia interesting:
  http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:47 AM, off_world_beings wrote:


I remember that whole thing about Witherspoon. It is very funny.

That is why evidence in peer-reviewed scientific journals on all
subjects is important ;-)


Do you have a peer-reviewed study that proves that, off?




Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama levitates! He floats!

2008-07-25 Thread R.G.
 (snip)
 
 
 Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
 (snip)
With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and dissonance 
and consonance;
Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing?
Don't you get the feeling that he knows we have to come together in 
order to get it right.
Do you have any sense of what is going on in this sick world?
Do you have any sense of real and false, Truth and Lies?

Who would you like to see as President.
Did you vote for Bush twice?

Obama is a gift for this country.
Anyone who doesn't see and feel  that is just spiritually dead, as far 
as I'm concerned.



[FairfieldLife] Astronaut Edgar Mitchell claims alien contact cover-up

2008-07-25 Thread do.rflex


FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of
the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.

And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions
- but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments
for six decades.

Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the
space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as
'little people who look strange to us.'

He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional
image of a small frame, large eyes and head.

Chillingly, he claimed our technology is not nearly as sophisticated
as theirs and had they been hostile, he warned we would be been
gone by now.

Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds
the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17
minutes following their 1971 mission.

I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that
we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real, Dr
Mitchell said.

It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60
years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been
privileged to have been briefed on some of it.

I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath
the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been
visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a bit.


Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical
engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and
Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits
continue to be investigated.

He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: This is
really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure
and some serious organisations are moving in that direction.

Mr Margerrison said: I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of astronaut
humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out
there and there's no debating it.

Officials from NASA, however, were quick to play the comments down.

In a statement, a spokesman said: NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is
not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet
or anywhere in the universe.

'Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on
this issue.' 

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html#








[FairfieldLife] Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (snip)
 
 
  Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
 (snip)
 With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and dissonance
 and consonance;
 Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing?
 Don't you get the feeling that he knows we have to come together in
 order to get it right.
 Do you have any sense of what is going on in this sick world?
 Do you have any sense of real and false, Truth and Lies?

 Who would you like to see as President.
 Did you vote for Bush twice?

 Obama is a gift for this country.
 Anyone who doesn't see and feel that is just spiritually dead, as far
 as I'm concerned.

Let him apply some of that alleged spirituality to quitting smoking.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya

2008-07-25 Thread R.G.
 
   Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
  (snip)
  With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and 
dissonance
  and consonance;
  Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing?
  Don't you get the feeling that he knows we have to come together 
in
  order to get it right.
  Do you have any sense of what is going on in this sick world?
  Do you have any sense of real and false, Truth and Lies?
 
  Who would you like to see as President.
  Did you vote for Bush twice?
 
  Obama is a gift for this country.
  Anyone who doesn't see and feel that is just spiritually dead, as 
far
  as I'm concerned.
 
 Let him apply some of that alleged spirituality to quitting smoking.

So, smoking is your problem with him-
I see...
Well, you know, FDR smoked cigarettes; so did JFK.
Bush doesn't smoke, Condi don't smoke, Cheney don't smoke.
What the hell does smoking have to do with anything?
Besides he's quitting.
Many of the GI's looked forward to having a cig, during WWII in their 
battle against the pure evil of German Nazism.
Hitler was a vegatarian.
If that is the only thing you have against the guy,
That is really a weak argument.
I think your just a common  American racist.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation

2008-07-25 Thread Vaj


On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:43 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:


It wasn't really population growth that I was thinking about when I
brought up the topic of sexual energy.  There are areas which
western medecine seems clueless, and which I believe are legitimate
area of study, and which have been studied and mapped out by eastern
schools.


Actually an MD, Wilhelm Reich, introduced the idea of a universal  
energy, connected with human sexuality and orgasm which he called  
orgone. He was not only ostracized for his claims, but later  
imprisoned for devices he believed could localize prana/orgone.  
Before he was imprisoned and his books burned en masse. For a  
wonderful account of his discovery from the POV of his young son,  
check out The Book of Dreams by Peter Reich.


I've spent some time in Reich's old laboratory and stayed at his home  
in the western mountains of Maine. Based on the replication of his  
experiments that I've witnessed, he does appear to have re- 
discovered, albeit in scientific terms, the force we know as prana.  
In fact, when I last visited his lab, I had the opportunity to view  
some old 16mm footage of isolation of prana in vacuum tubes and a  
motor which ran on life energy. The plans for this motor were stolen  
and have never been recovered. Despite his egregious treatment and  
persecution, his theories have gone on to found several current  
therapies like medical orgonomy, bioenergetics, Rolfing and numerous  
others.


In order to prevent further destruction of his work, his remaining  
papers were put in a time capsule at Harvard University until 50  
years after his death. They were unsealed just last fall.


The College of Orgonomy in NJ carries on his medical work to this day.



One area are the chakras.  One area is kudalini evergy.  And one
area pertains to the subtle science of sexual energy, and the effect
this energy has on thoughts and actions. I have no illusions that
the general population of India or other Asian nations have any
interest in these areas, but the fact remains that this is where the
study of these disciplines originated.

Do we dismiss what these cultures have contributed to arts,
sciences, and mystic schools because the present culture is in such
a shambles-at least in some respects.  Certainly explosive
population growth is likely to exacerbate many problems, but this is
not what I was addressing in the study of sexual energy.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
 
  (snip)
  
  
   Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
  (snip)
  With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and dissonance
  and consonance;
  Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing?

Lord Humungus from The Road Warrior had the most harmonizing voice.  But
if you gave into it, you soon died.  Look to the substance and the
policies behind the voice, no?

Be still my dog of war. I understand your pain. We've all lost someone
we love. But we do it my way! We do it my way. Fear is our ally. The
gasoline will be ours. Then you shall have your revenge.




  Don't you get the feeling that he knows we have to come together in
  order to get it right.

I get the feeling that he is full of shit and that he is pulling the
wool over your eyes.

His position is now virtually the same as John McCain's is regarding the
Iraq War.  Don't you think that's unfair to the 100s of thousands of
Lefties who voted for him in the primaries primarily because of his
original opposition to the war?




  Do you have any sense of what is going on in this sick world?

There are alot of problems in this world...we don't need more by voting
in a phony.


  Do you have any sense of real and false, Truth and Lies?



Yeah, that's why I have my doubts about the guy.


 
  Who would you like to see as President.
  Did you vote for Bush twice?

I can't vote in the Unites States as I am not a citizen.


 
  Obama is a gift for this country.

Hey, if he makes you feel good, keep drinking his Kool-Aid.


  Anyone who doesn't see and feel that is just spiritually dead, as
far
  as I'm concerned.



Spiritually dead. That's not a very nice thing to say, R. G., about
someone with whom you disagree.

Which leads me to wonder why, after having received the gift of Obama,
you haven't got more tolerant of people who disagree with you
politically nor developed less spitefullness?

Is this the kind of person people become once they embrace Obama?





 Let him apply some of that alleged spirituality to quitting smoking.





[FairfieldLife] Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
accomplish.  There is so much more, that it would really
be too much to list.  You can check it out on Wikipedia.

Attended Occidental College, graduated from Columbia and Harvard Law  
(got in all on his own--no rich daddy)


Editor of Harvard Law Review, based in part on high grades

Elected President of Harvard Law Review

Graduated with a JD magna cum laude

Community organizer--Director of Developing Communities Project
During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1  
to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with  
accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a  
college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights  
organization



Civil Rights attorney

Taught Con Law at U of Chicago Law School  from 92 to 2004

U of Chicago wanted Obama on their faculty so much
they provided him with a fellowship and an office in which
to write his first book, Dreams From My Father

In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill  Galland, a 12-attorney  
law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood  
economic development, where he was an associate for three years from  
1993 to 1996


Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a  
voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that  
achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered  
African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to  
name Obama to its 1993 list of 40 under Forty powers to be.


Elected to Illinois Senate in 96, 98 and 2002

During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police  
representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police  
organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[34] Obama resigned  
from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to  
the US Senate.


Delivered keynote address at Dem Convention in 2004

Elected to US Senate in 2004 with 70% of vote







[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya

2008-07-25 Thread R.G.
 
Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama?
   (snip)
   With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and 
dissonance
   and consonance;
   Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing?
 
 Lord Humungus from The Road Warrior had the most harmonizing voice.  
 (snip)
Who the hell is Lord Humungus?
This is beyond me.
As far as spiritually dead, most of the people are spiritually dead.
So, it's not surprising.
You're just a part very large sheep-like crowd...



[FairfieldLife] If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snip]


 I think your just a common American racist.


Is you ability to defend Obama so weak that you have to resort to
calling those that don't support him racists?

Are Obama's policies so weak that you aren't able to invoke them in a
debate in order to defend him?

The surest way to get your candidate NOT elected is to start playing the
race card, as you have.  Keep it up...tell everyone who opposes him that
they are racists and we'll see how that plays in Peoria.




[FairfieldLife] Seven Plagues That Now Face America

2008-07-25 Thread barbara_thomas73
I know many of you have read from this site.  I read it 
back even before any of these plagues were taking place, 
well, at least not on the scale they are recently.  People 
were saying these things would never happen, but now 
they are, so I'm convinced it's all legitimate, and that 
there's more to come.unfortunately it's real.

http://www.theamericannightmare.org/7_PLAGUES__G-G-G.html  

Barbara





Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:


This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
accomplish.  There is so much more, that it would really
be too much to list.  You can check it out on Wikipedia.


And, I should have added, a highly successful FIRST marriage...
no horrible stories about him blowing off a wife or any
other relative.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
 accomplish. There is so much more, that it would really
 be too much to list. You can check it out on Wikipedia.


Thank you for that, Salvatore, you make my point for me by listing his
accomplishments.

First, let's eliminate all the stuff about getting elected and academics
because that has very little bearing on accomplishments and what the guy
can do in the real world of real politik.

We are then left with the following:



 Community organizer--Director of Developing Communities Project
 During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1
 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with
 accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a
 college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights
 organization


What a stereotypical politician!  He increased spending  from $70,000 to
$400,000.

And, pray tell, how did the enormous accomplishments of the Job training
program (ooh, no one's ever done THAT before!), a college preparatory
tutoring program (every high school in the country' already had one...so
this one must have been REALLY special!), and a tenant's rights
organisation (something tells me that Chicago already had tenants'
rights organisation even before Obama was born...what was so special
about this one?) prepare him for being president?

Can you say: suck the teat of government and create jobs for your
friends?

And, by the way, as far as community organisers go, this would be
considered a poor to fair report card.

For future reference, Sal, here's the standard for community
organisers that you should use to determine accomplishments: Mother
Theresa.

Mother Theresa was a community organiser.  She probably accomplished in
one day in community organising activities what B. Hussein did during
his --what, 20 years? -- of community organising.

And, by the way, on Sundays when Mother Theresa went to Church, did she
sit at the feet of some racist demagogue?



 Civil Rights attorney

And what great cases did he take as a civil rights attorney?



 Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a
 voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that
 achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered
 African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to
 name Obama to its 1993 list of 40 under Forty powers to be.

Voter registration drives have been going on across the country for
decades.  They are nothing new.  That he got appointed to such a
position is indicative of his ability to get appointed by his political
friends more than anything.

You're really stretching, Sal, if this is what you have to come up with.


 During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police
 representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police
 organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[34] Obama resigned
 from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to
 the US Senate.

That's it?  That's his big accomplishment???  That's really
Earth-shattering!

Better go back to Wikipedia, Sal, and dig up some of those incredible
other accomplishments you say you weren't able to list because they were
too numerous.

And once you list them, we can go over THOSE accomplishments.

But since  accomplishments is apparently such a big factor for you in
whom to vote for president, why not list those of Ralph Nader who is
also running for president and see how he stacks up against Obama?



[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread R.G.
 
 (snip)
 Is you ability to defend Obama so weak that you have to resort to
 calling those that don't support him racists?
 that
 they are racists and we'll see how that plays in Peoria.

 (snip)
Let me make it clear- America is a racist country.
Bush has made the situation much worse, pitting rich against poor, and 
dividing the country and creating fear and more greed.
Peoria is in Illinois, and Obama is sure to win Illinois.
So, the Peoria thing don't work.

It is a fact that Gov. Ed Rendell said, when he was supporting Hillary.
That, A Black man can't win.
So, it is obvious most of the people who find fault with him are 
racist.
It's obvious to me, at least.
If that is not where you're coming from then I appoligize.
But my feeling is, if he were white like you, you wouldn't have a 
problem with him.
Am I wrong?



[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 (snip)
  Is you ability to defend Obama so weak that you have to resort to
  calling those that don't support him racists?
 that
  they are racists and we'll see how that plays in Peoria.
 
 (snip)
 Let me make it clear- America is a racist country.
 Bush has made the situation much worse, pitting rich against poor, and
 dividing the country and creating fear and more greed.
 Peoria is in Illinois, and Obama is sure to win Illinois.
 So, the Peoria thing don't work.

 It is a fact that Gov. Ed Rendell said, when he was supporting
Hillary.
 That, A Black man can't win.
 So, it is obvious most of the people who find fault with him are
 racist.
 It's obvious to me, at least.
 If that is not where you're coming from then I appoligize.
 But my feeling is, if he were white like you, you wouldn't have a
 problem with him.
 Am I wrong?


Yes, you're wrong because you're a racist.  And like all racists, you
see racism where none exists.

R. G., learn to judge a man by the content of his character, not by the
color of his skin.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrate 25th Anniversary of Taste of Utopia-Thurs. July 24, 8:15pm

2008-07-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
   
And why is it always somebody else who should do stuff?  Why
not you?
   
  
  They are the cannon fodder of the Age of E.
 
 
 Standing their ground:
 
 http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html


Yes,  these are tru patriots of dharma come here when so needed; 
sacrificing comfort, material life, career  wealth to uphold all 
that is so potential in human beings.

Bring up the music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVjIr7OrSZsfeature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVjIr7OrSZsfeature=related




[FairfieldLife] Obama has nature support!

2008-07-25 Thread feste37
Good column from today's Washington Post. Obama has oodles of what we
used to call in the movement nature support. Things just go his way. 

He's a lot more than a former community organizer, Shemp. A lot more. 


Making His Own Luck

By Eugene Robinson
Friday, July 25, 2008; A21

It was as if the fates had conspired to give Barack Obama the kind of
foreign affairs photo op that a campaign manager would see only in his
wildest dreams. Damp, gray Berlin was alive with bright sunshine. A
crowd that police estimated at more than 200,000 filled the heart of
the city. They cheered not only when Obama talked about global warming
or called for a world without nuclear weapons but also when he spoke
of the fight against terrorism and the need for Europe to remain
engaged in Afghanistan and Iraq.

In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in
our world, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all
too common, Obama chided -- and Berlin took the admonishment in
stride. What were the odds on that?

There has been much comment about the extraordinary luck that has
followed Obama's new Boeing 757 around the globe like an escort plane.
Indeed, from the Obama campaign's perspective, it would be hard to
script a better series of set pieces. He lands in Afghanistan just as
allied commanders and even Bush administration officials endorse his
view that more U.S. forces are needed there urgently. He moves on to
Baghdad, and Iraqi officials promptly echo his call to set a timetable
for U.S. withdrawal. He tiptoes through the minefield of the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict and somehow comes out unscathed.

After all this good fortune, the Berlin stop became more like a state
visit than a political foray. The huge media contingent traveling with
Obama, lacking gaffes or controversy to grill him about, was reduced
to asking how it felt to be welcomed by cheering multitudes whose
hosannas would embarrass a conquering hero.

A line commonly attributed to the Roman philosopher Seneca says it
best: Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
Legendary movie mogul Sam Goldwyn was even pithier: The harder I
work, the luckier I get.

Obama has been talking about the need to pay more attention to
Afghanistan -- and to schedule a pullout from Iraq -- for more than a
year. His enthusiastic welcome in Berlin owed much to the way he has
made restoring America's image in the world a major theme of his
campaign. Obama helped make the good luck that he's now enjoying.

Bad luck is a different thing, however. As Franklin Roosevelt said, I
think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not
enough the bad luck of the early worm.

John McCain is having an early worm kind of week. It's not just that
he goaded Obama into taking his trip. And it's not just that the
world's attention has been focused on Obama's trip, while McCain's
plane was met in New Hampshire the other day by only one reporter.

It's also that McCain's attempt to capitalize on one of his most
promising issues -- energy prices -- while Obama was preoccupied with
foreign affairs has seemed jinxed. The McCain campaign had the idea of
helicoptering the candidate to an oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico
to highlight his support for eliminating the ban on new offshore
drilling. But Hurricane Dolly made the trip dicey -- and a barge
accident in New Orleans that spilled 420,000 gallons of fuel oil into
the Mississippi River made it even dicier. A big, noxious oil spill
was not the backdrop McCain wanted. He ended up making a hastily
scheduled campaign appearance at a grocery store -- not quite the same
thing as commanding the world stage from the Victory Column in Berlin.

But a run of bad luck doesn't justify McCain's increasingly angry
rhetoric. His new attack line is that Obama would rather lose a war
in order to win a political campaign -- a stunning charge to level
against a fellow U.S. senator and perhaps a reflection of McCain's
frustration at having failed so far to paint Obama as some kind of
geopolitical naif.

If the grouching and grumbling continue, a campaign that once promised
to be a referendum on Barack Obama's experience threatens to become a
referendum on John McCain's temperament. At the moment, one of the
candidates is acting presidentially and one isn't.

McCain's crankiness toward Obama reminds me of something the French
writer Jean Cocteau once said: Of course I believe in luck. How
otherwise to explain the success of those you dislike?





[FairfieldLife] He ventured forth to bring light to the world

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
From The Times
July 25, 2008

He ventured forth to bring light to the world

The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in 
action - and a blessing to all his faithful followersGerard Baker 
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush 
the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian 
desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a 
Child appeared in the wilderness. 

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple 
family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white 
person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked 
in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into 
the odd weed and a little blow. 

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the 
City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation 
with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were 
astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: Verily, who 
is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of 
hope? 

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving 
Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their 
barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites. 

He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue 
that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the 
Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the 

Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining 
terror on all the world. 

And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the 
Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that 
ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the 
Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great 
blows and the threat of terror was no more. 

From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the 
great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his 
Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior 
Petraeus tried to destroy it. 

And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great 
Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible 
mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in 
disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great 
victory for the forces of the light. 

And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed 
to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of 
peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their 
intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy 
ploughshares. 

From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered 
through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who 
had followed him from afar cheered Hosanna and waved great palm 
fronds and strewed them at his feet. 

In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the 
Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an 
instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and 
Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in 
peace. 

As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, 
peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; 
Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites. 

And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of 
the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to 
decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over. 

The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed 
was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child 
was the one generations had been waiting for. 

And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at 
the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from 
Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead 
birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in 
foreclosure were able to borrow again. 

Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per 
barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though 
they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it. 

And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears 
witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is 
the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of 
The New York Times. 

Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped 
onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of 
Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached 
to them at length. 

But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd 
was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had 
waited for him. 

And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama has nature support!

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good column from today's Washington Post. Obama has oodles of what we
 used to call in the movement nature support. Things just go his 
way. 
 
 He's a lot more than a former community organizer, Shemp. A lot more. 
 


I suppose that he is whatever you imagine you want him to be.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

  This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
  accomplish.  There is so much more, that it would really
  be too much to list.  You can check it out on Wikipedia.

 And, I should have added, a highly successful FIRST marriage...
 no horrible stories about him blowing off a wife or any
 other relative.

 Sal

Whereas McCain divorced his first wife because she had health problems,
and then very generously used his second wife's money to support his
first wife and show how generous he is with other people's money.

He's a scumbag, and a piss poor pilot.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip
  (snip)
 Let me make it clear- America is a racist country.

I live with people from all over the world.  Americans are trying to
change at least. Most countries have no sense that their racism is
wrong.  Have a chat with a Korean about black people.  Talk with a
light skinned black person about dark skinned black people.  Speak
with an African immigrant about American born black people.  The list
goes on and on.

I am proud of our country taking a stand, and I am proud that Obama is
a presidential nominee.  NOt because he is black, but because we are
now producing so many highly educated African Americans that one could
rise to the top and take his shot to run the whole country.

In DC we have a strong middle and upper class black population.  Even
though there is much more in common with economic and educational
equality between races here, there is little socializing between
races.  Go to a BUPPIE club and it is all black, in YUPPIE club, all
white, after spending their work day together.  We are entering an era
where we many have to realize that equality doesn't mean that we
forget our tribal roots, when recognizing someone from your tribe
quickly was a life or death issue.  Birds of a feather really do flock
together and this had far reaching implications beyond simple racism. 

 Bush has made the situation much worse, pitting rich against poor, and 
 dividing the country and creating fear and more greed.
 Peoria is in Illinois, and Obama is sure to win Illinois.
 So, the Peoria thing don't work.
 
 It is a fact that Gov. Ed Rendell said, when he was supporting Hillary.
 That, A Black man can't win.
 So, it is obvious most of the people who find fault with him are 
 racist.

So the only thing people notice about Obama is his melinan level of
his skin?  Can't people just disagree with his policy or believe that
his mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash?  It becomes a no win
situation for black people if anyone feels they can't criticize them
without this accusation.  This is where this line of thinking leads:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1aNcd5cLm4

 It's obvious to me, at least.
 If that is not where you're coming from then I appoligize.
 But my feeling is, if he were white like you, you wouldn't have a 
 problem with him.
 Am I wrong?

I think people can learn to see beyond race.  It helps if you actually
live with a lot of different kinds of people I think.  It helps is the
only people of color in your town don't live in a ghetto which is what
it was like in the town where I grew up.  You have live with people
who are similar in economic and educational levels.  Then the skin
color thing subsides.

Obama does come off like an super educated elitist to me, but as John
Stewart says, after 8 years of a dumbass, I hope our next president is
not the guy I want to have a barbecue with!  But we need to feel
comfortable giving him just as much shit as any other president if he
does get elected to make sure he is keeping us all in mind.  That job
seems to do a number on people. 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama has nature support!

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings

Did you see that hoop he shot too ! Nature is speaking clearly to the
world now.  Old school warmongering republicans and democrats are
history.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good column from today's Washington Post. Obama has oodles of what we
 used to call in the movement nature support. Things just go his way.

 He's a lot more than a former community organizer, Shemp. A lot more.


 Making His Own Luck

 By Eugene Robinson
 Friday, July 25, 2008; A21

 It was as if the fates had conspired to give Barack Obama the kind of
 foreign affairs photo op that a campaign manager would see only in his
 wildest dreams. Damp, gray Berlin was alive with bright sunshine. A
 crowd that police estimated at more than 200,000 filled the heart of
 the city. They cheered not only when Obama talked about global warming
 or called for a world without nuclear weapons but also when he spoke
 of the fight against terrorism and the need for Europe to remain
 engaged in Afghanistan and Iraq.

 In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in
 our world, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all
 too common, Obama chided -- and Berlin took the admonishment in
 stride. What were the odds on that?

 There has been much comment about the extraordinary luck that has
 followed Obama's new Boeing 757 around the globe like an escort plane.
 Indeed, from the Obama campaign's perspective, it would be hard to
 script a better series of set pieces. He lands in Afghanistan just as
 allied commanders and even Bush administration officials endorse his
 view that more U.S. forces are needed there urgently. He moves on to
 Baghdad, and Iraqi officials promptly echo his call to set a timetable
 for U.S. withdrawal. He tiptoes through the minefield of the
 Israeli-Palestinian conflict and somehow comes out unscathed.

 After all this good fortune, the Berlin stop became more like a state
 visit than a political foray. The huge media contingent traveling with
 Obama, lacking gaffes or controversy to grill him about, was reduced
 to asking how it felt to be welcomed by cheering multitudes whose
 hosannas would embarrass a conquering hero.

 A line commonly attributed to the Roman philosopher Seneca says it
 best: Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
 Legendary movie mogul Sam Goldwyn was even pithier: The harder I
 work, the luckier I get.

 Obama has been talking about the need to pay more attention to
 Afghanistan -- and to schedule a pullout from Iraq -- for more than a
 year. His enthusiastic welcome in Berlin owed much to the way he has
 made restoring America's image in the world a major theme of his
 campaign. Obama helped make the good luck that he's now enjoying.

 Bad luck is a different thing, however. As Franklin Roosevelt said, I
 think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not
 enough the bad luck of the early worm.

 John McCain is having an early worm kind of week. It's not just that
 he goaded Obama into taking his trip. And it's not just that the
 world's attention has been focused on Obama's trip, while McCain's
 plane was met in New Hampshire the other day by only one reporter.

 It's also that McCain's attempt to capitalize on one of his most
 promising issues -- energy prices -- while Obama was preoccupied with
 foreign affairs has seemed jinxed. The McCain campaign had the idea of
 helicoptering the candidate to an oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico
 to highlight his support for eliminating the ban on new offshore
 drilling. But Hurricane Dolly made the trip dicey -- and a barge
 accident in New Orleans that spilled 420,000 gallons of fuel oil into
 the Mississippi River made it even dicier. A big, noxious oil spill
 was not the backdrop McCain wanted. He ended up making a hastily
 scheduled campaign appearance at a grocery store -- not quite the same
 thing as commanding the world stage from the Victory Column in Berlin.

 But a run of bad luck doesn't justify McCain's increasingly angry
 rhetoric. His new attack line is that Obama would rather lose a war
 in order to win a political campaign -- a stunning charge to level
 against a fellow U.S. senator and perhaps a reflection of McCain's
 frustration at having failed so far to paint Obama as some kind of
 geopolitical naif.

 If the grouching and grumbling continue, a campaign that once promised
 to be a referendum on Barack Obama's experience threatens to become a
 referendum on John McCain's temperament. At the moment, one of the
 candidates is acting presidentially and one isn't.

 McCain's crankiness toward Obama reminds me of something the French
 writer Jean Cocteau once said: Of course I believe in luck. How
 otherwise to explain the success of those you dislike?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:12 AM, off_world_beings wrote:

Whereas McCain divorced his first wife because she had health  
problems, and then very generously used his second wife's money to  
support his first wife and show how generous he is with other  
people's money.



Welcome to the party of Family Values.


He's a scumbag, and a piss poor pilot.



Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 So the only thing people notice about Obama is his melinan level of
 his skin?  Can't people just disagree with his policy or believe that
 his mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash?  It becomes a no win
 situation for black people if anyone feels they can't criticize them
 without this accusation.  This is where this line of thinking leads:
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1aNcd5cLm4

[snip]

This video reminds me of the incident in which a white teacher almost 
lost her job because she used the word niggardly in a class with a 
black student.



[FairfieldLife] Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Did you see that hoop he shot too ! Nature is speaking clearly to 
the
 world now.  Old school warmongering republicans and democrats are
 history.



Well, OffKilter, you are going to have a real problem with Obama if 
he becomes president because he just finished a press conference with 
President Sarkozy of France in which he committed himself to sending 
MORE troops to Afghanistan to win the war there (his words, not mine).

Warmongering is warmongering no matter how justified or a defensive 
an action it is and little innocent Afghan children will die as a 
result of the bombs that B. Hussein will drop on their little heads.

Are you for or against Obama's plans to increase the death, killing, 
and destruction for Afghanistan, OffKilter?




 
 OffWorld
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Good column from today's Washington Post. Obama has oodles of 
what we
  used to call in the movement nature support. Things just go his 
way.
 
  He's a lot more than a former community organizer, Shemp. A lot 
more.
 
 
  Making His Own Luck
 
  By Eugene Robinson
  Friday, July 25, 2008; A21
 
  It was as if the fates had conspired to give Barack Obama the 
kind of
  foreign affairs photo op that a campaign manager would see only 
in his
  wildest dreams. Damp, gray Berlin was alive with bright sunshine. 
A
  crowd that police estimated at more than 200,000 filled the heart 
of
  the city. They cheered not only when Obama talked about global 
warming
  or called for a world without nuclear weapons but also when he 
spoke
  of the fight against terrorism and the need for Europe to remain
  engaged in Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
  In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong 
in
  our world, rather than a force to help make it right, has become 
all
  too common, Obama chided -- and Berlin took the admonishment in
  stride. What were the odds on that?
 
  There has been much comment about the extraordinary luck that has
  followed Obama's new Boeing 757 around the globe like an escort 
plane.
  Indeed, from the Obama campaign's perspective, it would be hard to
  script a better series of set pieces. He lands in Afghanistan 
just as
  allied commanders and even Bush administration officials endorse 
his
  view that more U.S. forces are needed there urgently. He moves on 
to
  Baghdad, and Iraqi officials promptly echo his call to set a 
timetable
  for U.S. withdrawal. He tiptoes through the minefield of the
  Israeli-Palestinian conflict and somehow comes out unscathed.
 
  After all this good fortune, the Berlin stop became more like a 
state
  visit than a political foray. The huge media contingent traveling 
with
  Obama, lacking gaffes or controversy to grill him about, was 
reduced
  to asking how it felt to be welcomed by cheering multitudes whose
  hosannas would embarrass a conquering hero.
 
  A line commonly attributed to the Roman philosopher Seneca says it
  best: Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
  Legendary movie mogul Sam Goldwyn was even pithier: The harder I
  work, the luckier I get.
 
  Obama has been talking about the need to pay more attention to
  Afghanistan -- and to schedule a pullout from Iraq -- for more 
than a
  year. His enthusiastic welcome in Berlin owed much to the way he 
has
  made restoring America's image in the world a major theme of his
  campaign. Obama helped make the good luck that he's now enjoying.
 
  Bad luck is a different thing, however. As Franklin Roosevelt 
said, I
  think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not
  enough the bad luck of the early worm.
 
  John McCain is having an early worm kind of week. It's not just 
that
  he goaded Obama into taking his trip. And it's not just that the
  world's attention has been focused on Obama's trip, while McCain's
  plane was met in New Hampshire the other day by only one reporter.
 
  It's also that McCain's attempt to capitalize on one of his most
  promising issues -- energy prices -- while Obama was preoccupied 
with
  foreign affairs has seemed jinxed. The McCain campaign had the 
idea of
  helicoptering the candidate to an oil platform in the Gulf of 
Mexico
  to highlight his support for eliminating the ban on new offshore
  drilling. But Hurricane Dolly made the trip dicey -- and a barge
  accident in New Orleans that spilled 420,000 gallons of fuel oil 
into
  the Mississippi River made it even dicier. A big, noxious oil 
spill
  was not the backdrop McCain wanted. He ended up making a hastily
  scheduled campaign appearance at a grocery store -- not quite the 
same
  thing as commanding the world stage from the Victory Column in 
Berlin.
 
  But a run of bad luck doesn't justify McCain's increasingly angry
  rhetoric. His new attack line is that Obama would rather lose a 
war
  in order to win a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:12 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
 
  Whereas McCain divorced his first wife because she had health  
  problems, and then very generously used his second wife's money to  
  support his first wife and show how generous he is with other  
  people's money.
 
 Welcome to the party of Family Values.
 
  He's a scumbag, and a piss poor pilot.
 
 
 Sal


Well, since you guys insist upon drudging up the past personal sins 
of presidential candidates (and I repeat, again, I am NOT a McCain 
supporter), shall we discuss the cocaine-taking and cigarette smoking 
of B. Hussein?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Astronaut Edgar Mitchell claims alien contact cover-up

2008-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran 
of
 the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.
 
 And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several 
occasions
 - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by 
governments
 for six decades.
 
 Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the
 space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as
 'little people who look strange to us.'
 
 He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional
 image of a small frame, large eyes and head.
 
 Chillingly, he claimed our technology is not nearly as 
sophisticated
 as theirs and had they been hostile, he warned we would be been
 gone by now.
 
 Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds
 the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17
 minutes following their 1971 mission.
 
 I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that
 we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real, Dr
 Mitchell said.
 
 It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60
 years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been
 privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
 
 I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that 
beneath
 the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been
 visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a 
bit.
 
 
 Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical
 engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and
 Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits
 continue to be investigated.
 
 He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: This 
is
 really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure
 and some serious organisations are moving in that direction.
 
 Mr Margerrison said: I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of 
astronaut
 humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out
 there and there's no debating it.
 
 Officials from NASA, however, were quick to play the comments down.
 
 In a statement, a spokesman said: NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is
 not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet
 or anywhere in the universe.
 
 'Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions 
on
 this issue.' 


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html#


http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/southfield/southfield2008.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 
  Did you see that hoop he shot too ! Nature is speaking clearly to
 the
  world now.  Old school warmongering republicans and democrats are
  history.



 Well, OffKilter, you are going to have a real problem with Obama if
 he becomes president because he just finished a press conference with
 President Sarkozy of France in which he committed himself to sending
 MORE troops to Afghanistan to win the war there (his words, not
mine).


He is intelligently trying to correct the WORST STRATEGIC BLUNDER IN
HISTORY  (the waste of blood and money in Iraq) that you warmongers
created. Afghanistan was a good idea if the quagmire in Iraq had not
taken the billions of dollars and 150,000 troops that could have been
rebuilding Afghanistan  in a positive way.

Me, Obama, and Ron Paul were ALL agianst the Iraq war for these precise
reasons. Worst strategic blunder in history. Now US economy is crashing
because of it. Bush Cheney are traitors to America, and will likely get
arrested if they travel anywhere else in the coming years. They are
wanted war criminals.

Of course a chickenhawk like you woudn't understand world affairs such
as this.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/southfield/southfield2008.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Astronaut Edgar Mitchell claims alien contact cover-up

2008-07-25 Thread mainstream20016
In the interview, Edgar Mitchell mentioned that he grew up in Roswell, NM.  He 
is now 77, 
and therefore Edgar Mitchell was about the age of 16 or 17- a rather 
impressionable age-   
in 1947, the year of the 'alien spaceship crash' at Roswell.  Mitchell perhaps 
was more 
inclined than the average astronaut to embrace the idea that aliens visit 
Earth.  Has Edgar 
Mitchell ever offered specifics regarding how he knows the government knows 
about 
aliens ?  I'd like more corroborating witnesses, such as fellow astronauts who 
were briefed 
by the government,  official documents, and evidence that strengthens his 
claim.  Too 
much to ask of him?  

I often wonder to what extent the role disinformation, or propaganda, had in 
the UFO 
sitings  of the late 40s and early 50s.  Perhaps by generating fear, UFO 
siting 
propaganda served the military-industrial complex through intensifying support 
for the 
nuclear arms race following WWII.  
Of course the universe supports innumerable forms of existence.   The universe 
is so vast 
that it's likely that some process of dematerialization and rematerialization 
of the beings 
and their crafts is involved, if the more credible UFO incidents are valid.   



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran 
 of
  the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.
  
  And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several 
 occasions
  - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by 
 governments
  for six decades.
  
  Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the
  space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as
  'little people who look strange to us.'
  
  He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional
  image of a small frame, large eyes and head.
  
  Chillingly, he claimed our technology is not nearly as 
 sophisticated
  as theirs and had they been hostile, he warned we would be been
  gone by now.
  
  Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds
  the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17
  minutes following their 1971 mission.
  
  I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that
  we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real, Dr
  Mitchell said.
  
  It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60
  years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been
  privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
  
  I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that 
 beneath
  the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been
  visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a 
 bit.
  
  
  Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical
  engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and
  Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits
  continue to be investigated.
  
  He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: This 
 is
  really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure
  and some serious organisations are moving in that direction.
  
  Mr Margerrison said: I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of 
 astronaut
  humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out
  there and there's no debating it.
  
  Officials from NASA, however, were quick to play the comments down.
  
  In a statement, a spokesman said: NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is
  not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet
  or anywhere in the universe.
  
  'Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions 
 on
  this issue.' 
 
 
 http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html#
 
 
 http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/southfield/southfield2008.html






[FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation

2008-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
 
 On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:43 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
 
  It wasn't really population growth that I was thinking about when 
I
  brought up the topic of sexual energy.  There are areas which
  western medecine seems clueless, and which I believe are 
legitimate
  area of study, and which have been studied and mapped out by 
eastern
  schools.
 
 Actually an MD, Wilhelm Reich, introduced the idea of a universal  
 energy, connected with human sexuality and orgasm which he called  
 orgone. He was not only ostracized for his claims, but later  
 imprisoned for devices he believed could localize prana/orgone.  
 Before he was imprisoned and his books burned en masse. For a  
 wonderful account of his discovery from the POV of his young son,  
 check out The Book of Dreams by Peter Reich.
 
 I've spent some time in Reich's old laboratory and stayed at his 
home  
 in the western mountains of Maine. Based on the replication of his  
 experiments that I've witnessed, he does appear to have re- 
 discovered, albeit in scientific terms, the force we know as 
prana.  
 In fact, when I last visited his lab, I had the opportunity to 
view  
 some old 16mm footage of isolation of prana in vacuum tubes and a  
 motor which ran on life energy. The plans for this motor were 
stolen  
 and have never been recovered.

That american organization, the haters of truth, the Buddisths of 
Kali Yuga, the core of everything civilized nations despise about the 
americans, the FBI; they stole it. They new Reich was on to something 
important and put this visionary initiate in jail, where he died.

http://www.shareintl.org



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation

2008-07-25 Thread Vaj


On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:17 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:



On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:43 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:


It wasn't really population growth that I was thinking about when

I

brought up the topic of sexual energy.  There are areas which
western medecine seems clueless, and which I believe are

legitimate

area of study, and which have been studied and mapped out by

eastern

schools.


Actually an MD, Wilhelm Reich, introduced the idea of a universal
energy, connected with human sexuality and orgasm which he called
orgone. He was not only ostracized for his claims, but later
imprisoned for devices he believed could localize prana/orgone.
Before he was imprisoned and his books burned en masse. For a
wonderful account of his discovery from the POV of his young son,
check out The Book of Dreams by Peter Reich.

I've spent some time in Reich's old laboratory and stayed at his

home

in the western mountains of Maine. Based on the replication of his
experiments that I've witnessed, he does appear to have re-
discovered, albeit in scientific terms, the force we know as

prana.

In fact, when I last visited his lab, I had the opportunity to

view

some old 16mm footage of isolation of prana in vacuum tubes and a
motor which ran on life energy. The plans for this motor were

stolen

and have never been recovered.


That american organization, the haters of truth, the Buddisths of
Kali Yuga, the core of everything civilized nations despise about the
americans, the FBI; they stole it. They new Reich was on to something
important and put this visionary initiate in jail, where he died.


Colorful ideas Nab, but if it was anyone, it was probably the  
military. The Air Force used to harass him by having fighter pilots  
swoop right over his observatory, which sits high on a hill. Reich  
had made the mistake of sharing his atmospheric orgone findings with  
the Air Force...




[FairfieldLife] Who sins more?

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk

There is the old adage: a judge is held to a higher standard when he
breaks the law than a regular citizen.

I am not 100% vegetarian.  I eat red meat occasionally.  Maybe about
once every two months.

But if I subscribe to Guru Dev's discourse on the holiness of cows (see
below), am I sinning more with my occasional eating of red meat than,
say, the Joe-Six-Pack guy on the street who is ignorant of the holiness
of cows and eats a Big Mac every day?


चोरसी देवताžà¤à¤µà¤¾à¤²à¥€
गाय
chorasii devataa{}ovaalii gaaya - The Cow with 84 Deities
Ravi Varma Press, c1912

* According to Skanda Purana every part of the cow houses a deity,
According to the illustration above, Brahma is in her back, Vishnu in
her throat, Rudra (i.e. Shiva) is established on her face, Sun and Moon
are in her eyes, Yama and Indra on the tips of the horns, the Ashvins in
her nostrils, Lakshmi and Ganga behind her tail, etc etc.

(from www.PaulMason.com http://www.PaulMason.com  )



[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya

2008-07-25 Thread cardemaister

Thangs tend to be weirdly interconnected. In this case,
if Lewis Hamilton wins F1 Champion ship this year, that
could mean BHO's gonna be the next persident of the US of A! :D

http://www.lewishamilton.com/about



[FairfieldLife] Re: Who sins more?

2008-07-25 Thread mainstream20016
Until we're able to get our nourishment from the rays of the sun alone, we'll 
all be 
violating some being or another through eating.  Enjoy the nourishment and 
pleasure from 
a great steak, Schemp, and go about with a smile on your face after the meal.  
You'll do 
alot of good radiating vigor and happiness from the pleasure you experienced. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 There is the old adage: a judge is held to a higher standard when he
 breaks the law than a regular citizen.
 
 I am not 100% vegetarian.  I eat red meat occasionally.  Maybe about
 once every two months.
 
 But if I subscribe to Guru Dev's discourse on the holiness of cows (see
 below), am I sinning more with my occasional eating of red meat than,
 say, the Joe-Six-Pack guy on the street who is ignorant of the holiness
 of cows and eats a Big Mac every day?
 
 
 चोरसी देवताžà¤à¤µà¤¾à¤²à¥€
 गाय
 chorasii devataa{}ovaalii gaaya - The Cow with 84 Deities
 Ravi Varma Press, c1912
 
 * According to Skanda Purana every part of the cow houses a deity,
 According to the illustration above, Brahma is in her back, Vishnu in
 her throat, Rudra (i.e. Shiva) is established on her face, Sun and Moon
 are in her eyes, Yama and Indra on the tips of the horns, the Ashvins in
 her nostrils, Lakshmi and Ganga behind her tail, etc etc.
 
 (from www.PaulMason.com http://www.PaulMason.com  )






[FairfieldLife] Re: Astronaut Edgar Mitchell claims alien contact cover-up

2008-07-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the interview, Edgar Mitchell mentioned that he grew up in
Roswell, NM.  He is now 77, 
 and therefore Edgar Mitchell was about the age of 16 or 17- a rather
impressionable age-   
 in 1947, the year of the 'alien spaceship crash' at Roswell. 
Mitchell perhaps was more 
 inclined than the average astronaut to embrace the idea that aliens
visit Earth.  Has Edgar 
 Mitchell ever offered specifics regarding how he knows the
government knows about 
 aliens ?  I'd like more corroborating witnesses, such as fellow
astronauts who were briefed 
 by the government,  official documents, and evidence that
strengthens his claim.  Too 
 much to ask of him? 


I'm sure you can find a lot by doing a Google search. 

Here's that interview on YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=yhtDB0s4OKg


 

 I often wonder to what extent the role disinformation, or
propaganda, had in the UFO 
 sitings  of the late 40s and early 50s.  Perhaps by generating
fear, UFO siting 
 propaganda served the military-industrial complex through
intensifying support for the 
 nuclear arms race following WWII.  
 Of course the universe supports innumerable forms of existence.  
The universe is so vast 
 that it's likely that some process of dematerialization and
rematerialization of the beings 
 and their crafts is involved, if the more credible UFO incidents
are valid.   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
   
   
   FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran 
  of
   the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.
   
   And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several 
  occasions
   - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by 
  governments
   for six decades.
   
   Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the
   space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as
   'little people who look strange to us.'
   
   He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional
   image of a small frame, large eyes and head.
   
   Chillingly, he claimed our technology is not nearly as 
  sophisticated
   as theirs and had they been hostile, he warned we would be been
   gone by now.
   
   Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds
   the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17
   minutes following their 1971 mission.
   
   I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that
   we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real, Dr
   Mitchell said.
   
   It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60
   years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been
   privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
   
   I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that 
  beneath
   the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been
   visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a 
  bit.
   
   
   Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical
   engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and
   Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits
   continue to be investigated.
   
   He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: This 
  is
   really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure
   and some serious organisations are moving in that direction.
   
   Mr Margerrison said: I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of 
  astronaut
   humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out
   there and there's no debating it.
   
   Officials from NASA, however, were quick to play the comments down.
   
   In a statement, a spokesman said: NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is
   not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet
   or anywhere in the universe.
   
   'Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions 
  on
   this issue.' 
  
  
  http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html#
  
  
  http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/southfield/southfield2008.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
   wrote:
   
Largest stone blocks in the world, perfecttly fitted in wall -- not 
Roman as claimed?

This ia interesting:
http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm

OffWorld
   
   
   Heavens! That seems to be about 20X larger than the Stonehenge blocks?
  
  
  I don't know how much bigger, but much bigger yes - incredible eh.
  The temple is claimed to have been built by the Romans (although the 
  Romans did not record this great feat of engineering, and the 
  foundation blocks are way more eroded than the Roman building, and it 
  looks like the Romans built on top of it. The Romans could not move 
  blocks like that around when they tried in Egypt. They are also as 
  tightly fitted as the ancient Inca and Peruvian walls - but much bigger 
  blocks. 
 
 I am a sucker for that sort of thing! 
 
 I guess you saw that stuff on the Sphinx a while back? There was a
 highly respected geologist who was asserting that it must be way older
 than the archaeologists thought (he considered the latter to be
 geologically illiterate). His thinking was that the erosion signature
  implied a wetter climate, which means an age of 1 years or more.
 I haven't seen any more on that. In fact, come to think of it, where's
 that Graham Hancock fellah these days?


I'm pretty sure I've read that that the Sphinx is built around an older 
statue...

Lawson





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings 
no_reply@
  wrote:
  
  
   Did you see that hoop he shot too ! Nature is speaking clearly 
to
  the
   world now.  Old school warmongering republicans and democrats 
are
   history.
 
 
 
  Well, OffKilter, you are going to have a real problem with Obama 
if
  he becomes president because he just finished a press conference 
with
  President Sarkozy of France in which he committed himself to 
sending
  MORE troops to Afghanistan to win the war there (his words, not
 mine).
 
 
 He is intelligently trying to correct the WORST STRATEGIC BLUNDER IN
 HISTORY  (the waste of blood and money in Iraq) that you warmongers
 created. Afghanistan was a good idea if the quagmire in Iraq had not
 taken the billions of dollars and 150,000 troops that could have 
been
 rebuilding Afghanistan  in a positive way.
 
 Me, Obama, and Ron Paul were ALL agianst the Iraq war for these 
precise
 reasons. Worst strategic blunder in history. Now US economy is 
crashing
 because of it. Bush Cheney are traitors to America, and will likely 
get
 arrested if they travel anywhere else in the coming years. They are
 wanted war criminals.
 
 Of course a chickenhawk like you woudn't understand world affairs 
such
 as this.
 
 OffWorld



Thanks for the confirmation.

So, yes, you ARE for the bombing, maiming, terrorizing, and killing 
of the little chilluns of Afghanistan.

Say, who's the WarMonger?



[FairfieldLife] Chlorella - ultimate green food

2008-07-25 Thread yifuxero
http://www.healingdaily.com/oral-chelation/health-benefits-of-
chlorella.htm



[FairfieldLife] Re: Chlorella - ultimate green food

2008-07-25 Thread yifuxero
--http://www.tinyurl.com/6lzvcz


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.healingdaily.com/oral-chelation/health-benefits-of-
 chlorella.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: Chlorella - ultimate green food

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
I don't care how green it is, STAY AWAY FROM IT:

http://tinyurl.com/6eg9r2








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --http://www.tinyurl.com/6lzvcz
 
 
 - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  http://www.healingdaily.com/oral-chelation/health-benefits-of-
  chlorella.htm
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Chlorella - ultimate green food

2008-07-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I don't care how green it is, STAY AWAY FROM IT:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/6eg9r2


Here's a special helpful tip for Shemp: http://tinyurl.com/2b3u7m




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:

 Thanks for the confirmation.

 So, yes, you ARE for the bombing, maiming, terrorizing, and killing 
 of the little chilluns of Afghanistan.

 Say, who's the WarMonger?
What he said yesterday it would  be NATO troops not necessarily US 
troops, IOW more like what Clinton did support UN and NATO troops in 
troubled areas.  But I tend to agree with you that Afghanistan is the 
graveyard of nations and should be left to deal with its own 
problems.  Thing is we have a bunch of greedy oil people licking their 
chops at the oil reserves there and want to use our taxpayer dollars to 
get at it.  We need to just tell them sorry, no deal.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Who sins more?

2008-07-25 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:
 There is the old adage: a judge is held to a higher standard when he
 breaks the law than a regular citizen.

 I am not 100% vegetarian.  I eat red meat occasionally.  Maybe about
 once every two months.

 But if I subscribe to Guru Dev's discourse on the holiness of cows (see
 below), am I sinning more with my occasional eating of red meat than,
 say, the Joe-Six-Pack guy on the street who is ignorant of the holiness
 of cows and eats a Big Mac every day?
Back in 1973 when I played a gig in Phoenix we used to go out to Tempe 
to a natural food restaurant that severed range fed beef burgers which 
were very juicy and good with whole wheat bun and sprouts.  Probably not 
there anymore.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Who sins more?

2008-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   of cows and eats a Big Mac every day?
 Back in 1973 when I played a gig in Phoenix we used to go out to 
Tempe 
 to a natural food restaurant that severed range fed beef burgers 
which 
 were very juicy and good with whole wheat bun and sprouts.  Probably 
not 
 there anymore.

And 40 years later you probably will not be here anymore either; 
glutton. Enjoy your ride !




[FairfieldLife] Re: Largest stone blocks in the world - not Roman as claimed?

2008-07-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
off wrote:
 http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm

It was decided to furnish the temple 
with a monumental extension of the 
podium which, according to Phoenician 
tradition, had to consist of no more 
than three layers of stone. 

The fact remains that this decision 
initiated the cutting, transporting 
and lifting of the largest and heaviest 
stones of all times. 

Not only had a wall of 13 meters in height 
to be composed of three ranges of stones, 
but in the interest of appearance the 
middle blocks were made of a length four 
times their height. 

Adding to this a depth equal to the 
height of the stones, they had to be of 
a volume of up to 400 cubic meters per 
block, corresponding to a weight of 
almost 1000 tons. 

Technically, the builders of Baalbeck 
proved that they could do it, since three 
such blocks of the middle layer are in 
place, but in terms of time they did not 
succeed - the podium remained incomplete. 

Nevertheless, so awe-inspiring were those 
blocks to all beholders ever after, that 
Baalbeck was known for a long time 
primarily as the site of the three stones, 
the trilithon.

Read more:

Mystic Places:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_5.htm



[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  So the only thing people notice about 
 Obama is his melinan level of
  his skin?  Can't people just disagree 
 with his policy or believe that
  his mouth is writing checks his ass 
 can't cash?  It becomes a no win
  situation for black people if anyone 
 feels they can't criticize them
  without this accusation.  This is where 
 this line of thinking leads:
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1aNcd5cLm4
 
 [snip]
 
 This video reminds me of the incident 
 in which a white teacher almost 
 lost her job because she used the word 
 niggardly in a class with a 
 black student.

In 1999 a bureaucrat actually resigned for using the word:

Williams Aide Resigns in Language Dispute

By Yolanda Woodlee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 27, 1999; Page B1 

The director of D.C. Mayor Anthony A. 
Williams's constituent services office 
resigned after being accused of using 
a racial slur, the mayor's office said 
yesterday.

David Howard, head of the Office of 
Public Advocate, said he used the word 
niggardly in a Jan. 15 conversation 
about funding with two employees.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/jan99/district27.htm

or

http://tinyurl.com/ln54b




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 But I tend to agree with you that Afghanistan 
 is the graveyard of nations and should be 
 left to deal with its own problems.

With no help from anyone?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Who sins more?

2008-07-25 Thread aztjbailey

just remember fish don't fart and after you get through doing your yoga
asanas and levitating you can walk out of your vastu house in accordance
with the principles of vedic astrology and get more fresh tilapia than
you can shake a stick at!!!

this guy will set up with everything you need.

http://www.portablefarms.com/index.php
http://www.portablefarms.com/index.php



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 There is the old adage: a judge is held to a higher standard when he
 breaks the law than a regular citizen.

 I am not 100% vegetarian. I eat red meat occasionally. Maybe about
 once every two months.

 But if I subscribe to Guru Dev's discourse on the holiness of cows
(see
 below), am I sinning more with my occasional eating of red meat than,
 say, the Joe-Six-Pack guy on the street who is ignorant of the
holiness
 of cows and eats a Big Mac every day?


 चोरसी देवताžà¤à¤µà¤¾à¤²à¥€
 गाय
 chorasii devataa{}ovaalii gaaya - The Cow with 84 Deities
 Ravi Varma Press, c1912

 * According to Skanda Purana every part of the cow houses a deity,
 According to the illustration above, Brahma is in her back, Vishnu in
 her throat, Rudra (i.e. Shiva) is established on her face, Sun and
Moon
 are in her eyes, Yama and Indra on the tips of the horns, the Ashvins
in
 her nostrils, Lakshmi and Ganga behind her tail, etc etc.

 (from www.PaulMason.com http://www.PaulMason.com )





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
off wrote:
 Now US economy is crashing because of it. 

How, exactly, is the war in Iraq causing the 
U.S. economy to crash?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who sins more?

2008-07-25 Thread Bhairitu
nablusoss1008 wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 of cows and eats a Big Mac every day?
 
 Back in 1973 when I played a gig in Phoenix we used to go out to 
 
 Tempe 
   
 to a natural food restaurant that severed range fed beef burgers 
 
 which 
   
 were very juicy and good with whole wheat bun and sprouts.  Probably 
 
 not 
   
 there anymore.
 

 And 40 years later you probably will not be here anymore either; 
 glutton. Enjoy your ride !
We'll be luck if anyone is here. in 4 years.



[FairfieldLife] Bohemian Grove 2008 Attendee List (full list in text format)

2008-07-25 Thread pc93
Here I typed it up:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2008/07/bohemian-grov-1.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Sal wrote:
 This is only a very partial list of 
 what he's been able to accomplish.

You left out the part about Obama's 
plan of retreating from the war in Iraq. 

If Senator Obama had prevailed, American 
forces would have had to retreat under 
fire. The Iraqi Army would have collapsed. 
Civilian casualties would have increased 
dramatically. Al Qaeda would have killed 
the Sunni sheikhs who had begun to cooperate 
with us, and the Sunni Awakening would 
have been strangled at birth. Al Qaeda 
fighters would have safe havens, from where 
they could train Iraqis and foreigners, 
and turn Iraq into a base for launching 
attacks on Americans elsewhere. Civil war, 
genocide and wider conflict would have been 
likely.

Read more:

'McCain Hits Hard'
Posted by John Hinderaker
Powerline, July 25, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/6otoda




[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!

2008-07-25 Thread feste37
Being forced to resign for using niggardly is ridiculous because the
word has no etymological connection to the offensive word. Not saying
black hole around blacks because it is negative is also silly,
since black hole is a scientific term with a specific meaning, which
the fellow in the Youtube clip was using accurately. However, there
are issues of language involved. When I had a black student in my
class, I was careful about using expressions like black comedy,
black humor, a black mood a black look, a black day, and
similar. There are genuine issues here, obscured by the fake ones. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   So the only thing people notice about 
  Obama is his melinan level of
   his skin?  Can't people just disagree 
  with his policy or believe that
   his mouth is writing checks his ass 
  can't cash?  It becomes a no win
   situation for black people if anyone 
  feels they can't criticize them
   without this accusation.  This is where 
  this line of thinking leads:
   http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1aNcd5cLm4
  
  [snip]
  
  This video reminds me of the incident 
  in which a white teacher almost 
  lost her job because she used the word 
  niggardly in a class with a 
  black student.
 
 In 1999 a bureaucrat actually resigned for using the word:
 
 Williams Aide Resigns in Language Dispute
 
 By Yolanda Woodlee
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Wednesday, January 27, 1999; Page B1 
 
 The director of D.C. Mayor Anthony A. 
 Williams's constituent services office 
 resigned after being accused of using 
 a racial slur, the mayor's office said 
 yesterday.
 
 David Howard, head of the Office of 
 Public Advocate, said he used the word 
 niggardly in a Jan. 15 conversation 
 about funding with two employees.
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/jan99/district27.htm
 
 or
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ln54b





Re: [FairfieldLife] South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread Peter
Nabs,
I won't make smarmy comments, but I have a really hard time believing crop 
circles have any sort of extra terrestrial origin. From what I've read, all 
evidence to the contrary is ignored and there's seems to be an apriori 
assumption that its aliens. Bill Witherspoon's Shri Yantra in Oregan in 1990 is 
a classic case of this. Bill and several other people all worked together to 
make the yantra. A very much earth-bound event, but after it was discovered, 
for his life, he couldn't convince the ufo people that he had done it. They 
came up with facts to disprove him. Incredible!  


--- On Fri, 7/25/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 1:26 PM
 http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/southfield/southfield2008.html
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Links to Guru Purnima Discourses of Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Swamiji

2008-07-25 Thread sriswamijisadhaka


http://www.dattapeetham.org/india/tours/2008/usa2008/usa_speechs.html 

Jaya Guru Deva Datta



[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2008-07-25 Thread Bhairitu
Hey! Nobody went over this week!
Coming up next Mud Wrastlin' with Barry and Judy
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[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nabs,
 I won't make smarmy comments, but I have a really hard time believing crop 
 circles have 
any sort of extra terrestrial origin. From what I've read, all evidence to the 
contrary is ignored 
and there's seems to be an apriori assumption that its aliens. Bill 
Witherspoon's Shri Yantra in 
Oregan in 1990 is a classic case of this. Bill and several other people all 
worked together to 
make the yantra. A very much earth-bound event, but after it was discovered, 
for his life, he 
couldn't convince the ufo people that he had done it. They came up with facts 
to disprove 
him. Incredible!  

My own suspicion is that the first crop circles were really simple things made 
by
whirlwinds and some good ole boys in various parts of the world saw how freaked
everyone was by a simple circle and started making elaborate hoaxes to yank
everyone around.

They weren't called crop circles because they formed elaborate patterns...


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
  Nabs,
  I won't make smarmy comments, but I have a really hard time believing crop 
  circles 
have 
 any sort of extra terrestrial origin. From what I've read, all evidence to 
 the contrary is 
ignored 
 and there's seems to be an apriori assumption that its aliens. Bill 
 Witherspoon's Shri 
Yantra in 
 Oregan in 1990 is a classic case of this. Bill and several other people all 
 worked together 
to 
 make the yantra. A very much earth-bound event, but after it was discovered, 
 for his 
life, he 
 couldn't convince the ufo people that he had done it. They came up with 
 facts to 
disprove 
 him. Incredible!  
 
 My own suspicion is that the first crop circles were really simple things 
 made by
 whirlwinds and some good ole boys in various parts of the world saw how 
 freaked
 everyone was by a simple circle and started making elaborate hoaxes to yank
 everyone around.
 
 They weren't called crop circles because they formed elaborate patterns...
 

BTW, I've seen a dust devil about a foot in diameter and 100 feet tall 
standing still for 
a minute or so in an open field in AZ, hissing loud enough you could here it 
from
100 feet away. That's a FAST wind. And a guy from the US weather service once 
told
me that dust devils can reach Tornado 1 force, but since they don't have any 
moisture
they don't show up on radar, and aren't counted as official tornados even 
though they
are just as destructive as an official one. A tornado-level whirlwind that 
forms for
just a second could easily tear a simple circle in a field and give rise to the 
original
sightings.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Peter wrote:
 A very much earth-bound event, but 
 after it was discovered, for his life, 
 he couldn't convince the ufo people that 
 he had done it. They came up with facts 
 to disprove him. Incredible!  
 
Is there any evidence, other than what Bill
said, to prove that he and his friends made
the Oregon Shri Yantra?



[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Lawson wrote:
 A tornado-level whirlwind that forms for
 just a second could easily tear a simple 
 circle in a field and give rise to the 
 original sightings.
 
NO video footage or photographs anywhere 
document an alleged creation of crop art 
(alleged man-made patterns) in progress 
from ground level AND SIMULTANEOUSLY from 
the air, to confirm that the alleged 
'finished product' is indeed what the people 
'below' are alleging to have stomped out in 
the crop.

http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes/ilyes9.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Lawson wrote:
  A tornado-level whirlwind that forms for
  just a second could easily tear a simple 
  circle in a field and give rise to the 
  original sightings.
  
 NO video footage or photographs anywhere 
 document an alleged creation of crop art 
 (alleged man-made patterns) in progress 
 from ground level AND SIMULTANEOUSLY from 
 the air, to confirm that the alleged 
 'finished product' is indeed what the people 
 'below' are alleging to have stomped out in 
 the crop.
 
 http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes/ilyes9.html


Well, your average good ole boy doesn't have access to a helicopter...


And even if you could prove that SOME circles were manmade, you could 
never prove taht all are, so its moot anyway.

L.





[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !

2008-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nabs,
 I won't make smarmy comments, but I have a really hard time
believing crop circles have any sort of extra terrestrial origin. From
what I've read, all evidence to the contrary is ignored and there's
seems to be an apriori assumption that its aliens. Bill Witherspoon's
Shri Yantra in Oregan in 1990 is a classic case of this. Bill and
several other people all worked together to make the yantra. A very
much earth-bound event, but after it was discovered, for his life, he
couldn't convince the ufo people that he had done it. They came up
with facts to disprove him. Incredible!  

But no one proved that Bill is not an alien, did they?


 
 
 --- On Fri, 7/25/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5
Swallows !
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 1:26 PM
  http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/southfield/southfield2008.html
  
  
  
  
  To subscribe, send a message to:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
 
  This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
  accomplish.  There is so much more, that it would really
  be too much to list.  You can check it out on Wikipedia.
 
 And, I should have added, a highly successful FIRST marriage...
 no horrible stories about him blowing off a wife or any
 other relative.
 
 Sal


And maybe you should have added John Edwards having an affair while 
his wife battles cancer.  Or maybe the baby John Edwards had with his 
mistress. Or maybe John Edwards telling everyone that they are the 
only one he has confided some personal details about his son's death.  
Oh yea, family values.  The dems really personify them.  




[FairfieldLife] Prosecution of Bush for Murder - Vincent Bugliosi

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder - Vincent Bugliosi
http://youtube.com/watch?v=73KIpzrUXI8

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
  On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
  
   This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
   accomplish.  There is so much more, that it would really
   be too much to list.  You can check it out on Wikipedia.
  
  And, I should have added, a highly successful FIRST marriage...
  no horrible stories about him blowing off a wife or any
  other relative.
  
  Sal
 
 
 And maybe you should have added John Edwards having an affair while 
 his wife battles cancer.  Or maybe the baby John Edwards had with 
his 
 mistress. Or maybe John Edwards telling everyone that they are 
the 
 only one he has confided some personal details about his son's 
death.  
 Oh yea, family values.  The dems really personify them.

Lurk loves the conspiracy theory stuff.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
salsunshine@ 
  wrote:
  
   On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
   
This is only a very partial list of what he's been able to
accomplish.  There is so much more, that it would really
be too much to list.  You can check it out on Wikipedia.
   
   And, I should have added, a highly successful FIRST marriage...
   no horrible stories about him blowing off a wife or any
   other relative.
   
   Sal
  
  
  And maybe you should have added John Edwards having an affair 
while 
  his wife battles cancer.  Or maybe the baby John Edwards had 
with 
 his 
  mistress. Or maybe John Edwards telling everyone that they are 
 the 
  only one he has confided some personal details about his son's 
 death.  
  Oh yea, family values.  The dems really personify them.
 
 Lurk loves the conspiracy theory stuff.
 
 OffWorld

Damn, you're going easy on me.  BTW, I may have been wrong about 
the love child.  But not the sugar daddy part.  





[FairfieldLife] What do these guys have against neckties?

2008-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama the War Monger

2008-07-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 off wrote:
  Now US economy is crashing because of it. 
 
 How, exactly, is the war in Iraq causing the 
 U.S. economy to crash?.

You have to be a complete idiot to not understand these economics.
A billion dollars a week (50 billion a year) is the goevernments 
figures, and that is the tip of the iceberg of the real costs.
The psychological drain on a country that uses 'optimism' as its gas, 
is huge in addition
Read this.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/page/2/

OffWorld





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's many accomplishments

2008-07-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 25, 2008, at 9:17 PM, off_world_beings wrote:



And, I should have added, a highly successful FIRST marriage...
no horrible stories about him blowing off a wife or any
other relative.

Sal



And maybe you should have added John Edwards having an affair while
his wife battles cancer.  Or maybe the baby John Edwards had with

his

mistress. Or maybe John Edwards telling everyone that they are

the

only one he has confided some personal details about his son's

death.

Oh yea, family values.  The dems really personify them.


Lurk loves the conspiracy theory stuff.


I wouldn't say the junk from the National Enquirer and Wonkette
rises even to that level. But lurk's mileage may vary.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: What do these guys have against neckties?

2008-07-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, they would not have been allowed in the domes for Guru Purnima with 
out one.  

Their wives may or may not have got in to Guru Purnima in the Dome, 
depending on whether their heads were covered.  The Iranian wife 
probably would have gotten in.



[FairfieldLife] Repost of MMY's comments on Dubya as Ravana

2008-07-25 Thread gullible fool


I got this from someone on Heavenly Mountain on
September 1, 2001.

Hi, any new news after this call on the future of the
TM movement in America?

Hi Friends, I have taken the time to transcribe these
notes from a tape of a conference call for TM
Governors, with the west coast regional coordinator.
She speaks with Maharishi regularly. There is so much
heavy, important information here, that I want to send
it to all my friends. The first part consists of her
verbatim notes when MMY was speaking, then the next
part on a follow-up talk which may be more paraphrased
(that's where it was stated that the demon Ravana is
working through George W. Bush!) Very
thought-provoking and helpful to see what Maharishi's
attention is on these days. (any question mark means I
am either not sure of the spelling or not sure I heard
the word on the tape clearly.)

Jai Guru Dev, Mary

Jai Guru Dev. This is probably one of the largest
governor meetings that's been held in a long time,
outside of a course She wants to start by thanking
each and every one of you who has joined this call
tonight. Many have been viewing the MOU channel daily,
so are very aware of Maharishi's displeasure with NATO
and bombing for peace. Now we are hearing more the
negative repercussions from around the world directed
at the attitude, behavior, and positioning of the
United States. Curt and Christie Kleinschnitz gave a
report on the Maharishi Vedic Center project.
Maharishi approved it as a very good plan, he just
wanted us to reduce the cost so more can be built.
After the Kleinschnitz couple reviewed for Maharishi
the plan of rebuilding the whole country in accordance
with Stapathya Veda principles, including their idea
to apply for some federal Foundation funds to help
with this, here are MMY's comments on the real
situation in the U.S. today: The president is
destroying the foundation of the world. Tell them that
you are a Foundation for the good of the people. We
are trying to create coherence in society. He
(referring to the president) is even more violent than
Hitler. (The regional coordinator makes a comment here
that what he meant is that the potential for what Bush
could do is more violent than what Hitler did during
WWII). A new Rakshasa in America. He could destroy the
world, and he may. It is good that the money stays in
the bank, and we ascend to Heaven. We want to
counteract these actions. Don't waste time asking for
funds. The governors had intended to apply for some
U.S. Govt. grants for their project) Waste of time! We
are powerful. We will not take bad money. Whether the
world comes or goes, we maintain our dignity. Don't
waste time by asking for funds and all this, and go by
your regular business procedures. Waste of time. We
are powerful, and we don't have to beg money from
those people. It is this begging for money that I
dislike. So whether the world continues breathing or
stops breathing, but it is not our dignity to ask for
money here and there. We just stand (?) the whole
thing and maintain our dignity. Write them (the
Foundation) but with an
authority. Begging them for money and all that - NO!
You say that today, we are telling you that your money
will remain in the bank, and the banks will be
going to Heaven. Use authority with them. Some things
we needed to ask from them for 10 years, to get some
money. No, no. Three years, try to save your life, and
we have the authority to give the license to
live. With authority, with authority, with boldness,
openness say, 'Your country is going to go, and you
should save your money for your own life.' (At this
point, Curt Kleinschnitz very quietly said, 'Not very
many people write them letters to that point,
Maharishi.') Maharishi said: Write them, that we are
inviting you to continue to breathe life on Earth
because your president is putting you on fire. That we
are a charitable organization. We invite you to
continue to breathe life. Otherwise all your
charitable foundations and charity and this, the
whole thing doesn't mean a thing. Take them with
charitable things and say that they are alive in the
world. Save your life. This is very bad. There's a
very bad opposition in Europe. Everywhere he
(president Bush) went, but it doesn't matter. Even if
he is honored in Europe, he is going to eat up life
for the world, that's all. We are doing our things. We
are doing, we are propagating these things,
jyotish and all those things that we have on the
market. Only I was trying to make every aspect of our
undertaking to be more effective. I want it to be more
effective. In 3 or 4 days I'll inform you what to do
about the whole thing. But whatever we are doing, it's
not enough to save the world. It is never enough to
save the world. 10-20 people here and there, and
giving this lecture and gathering that
people and all, no, it won't help the world. It's a
big world of ours. We have to do something with more
wakefulness. All these little things that we've been
doing, the time is over for all