[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 ...The Obama campaign has struggled to
  downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
  as just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, and not somebody who I
  exchange ideas with on a regular basis. Yet documents in the CAC
  archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
  CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
  University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
  through them.
  
  The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
  Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
  initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
  was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
  matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
  Collaborative, which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
  has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming guilt by
  association. Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
  guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
  and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
  story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.
  read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
  
  New York Times 9/11/2001 I don't regret setting bombs, Bill Ayers
  said. I feel we didn't do enough. Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
  a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
  his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
  of Chicago... read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
 
 So let's get this straight Raunch. You're saying that Obama supports
the making of bombs 
 to overthrow the government of the US?

I haven't made any such claim because in case you didn't notice, I
didn't write the article. You are free to jump to any conclusion you
want, but try using a little logic when you do so. Nowhere does it say
Obama supports making bombs and overthrowing the government. You made
that up then attributed your fantasy of Obama's incendiary intentions
to me. Yikes! Next time you want to bean me with an Ayer's molotov
cocktail, read the article more carefully.



[FairfieldLife] Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread cardemaister

Shortly after yesterdays(9/23) school shooting here in Finland
the participants of Finnish Big Brother started talking
about the similar incident last November. One of the participants,
Mr. Johan Grahn, said (paraphrase): What if a major accident has
happened?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdwIlhX877o



[FairfieldLife] Re: Racist White Democrats may cost Obama the White House

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Americans are recognizing that Obama is a phenomenon in 
   American politics. If there are many racists in the Democratic 
   Party, Obama wouldn't have gotten this far in the nominating 
   process.
   
   IMO, there's a surging consciousness in the USA for a change 
   from the present Republican administration, and it just happens 
   to be Obama who is the best one among the Democrats to 
   challenge the Republicans.
  
  Whether he succeeds or fails.
  
  It's the clash of energies that is important.
 
 In other words, it's the fluctuation of the gunas, in vedic terms.

No, not at all. Energy -- and the universe composed
of it -- is far more interesting and complex than
the dumbed-down triumverate of energies postulated
by Vedic philosophers. 

You're falling for the good/evil dualistic dichotomy.
I'm talking about an energy signature which is neither
good nor evil on either side, because 1) such simplis-
tic distinctions don't exist, and because 2) all beings
are a complex *mix* of energies of all sorts.

It also has nothing to do with evolution and who
is more evolved or any simplistic horseshit like 
that. It's just that Obama's energy mix is more intelli-
gent than McCain's, by a long shot. That provides
people with an opportunity to see which energy they 
identify with more -- intelligence or idiocy. 

The fact that the polls (even though they are being
manipulated) are so close indicates that Americans 
are torn on this subject. 

   In short, Obama represents the culmination of the struggle 
   of the American people for life, liberty, and the pursuit 
   of happiness. Anything less is slavery and servitude in 
   more ways than one.
  
  I could not agree more. And interestingly, isn't
  it fascinating to see who on this forum literally
  hates the man, no matter how much they try to
  disguise it? And then you think of the number that
  these people run here on a regular basis, and its 
  intent.
 
 IMO, some people here are intentionally provoking controversy 
 for the sake of notoriety in the forum. 

Well, duh!  :-)

Seriously, John, sometimes you have a tendency to
state the obvious as if it were profound. 

  Most of us can feel that intent, no matter how much
  they try to disguise it. Without exception, the 
  posters on this forum who dislike Obama intensely
  are unhappy people, with a track record of trying
  their damnedest to make other people as unhappy as
  they are.
 
 Let's find out who they are by the response that you get.

You mean like a homosexual calling a straight guy a homo-
sexual and thinking that it's an insult?  :-)

THAT is what I'm talking about with regard to the clash
of energies. It's not a good vs. evil thang; it's an
intelligence vs. stupidity thang. No one who is the
least bit intelligent (or sane) is going to go around 
insulting other people by insinuating that they're 
*just like them*.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Shortly after yesterdays(9/23) school shooting here in Finland
 the participants of Finnish Big Brother started talking
 about the similar incident last November. One of the participants,
 Mr. Johan Grahn, said (paraphrase): What if a major accident has
 happened?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdwIlhX877o


Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  
  Shortly after yesterdays(9/23) school shooting here in Finland
  the participants of Finnish Big Brother started talking
  about the similar incident last November. One of the participants,
  Mr. Johan Grahn, said (paraphrase): What if a major accident has
  happened?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdwIlhX877o
 
 


 Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
 is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.


***

While Finns have a reputation for violence, firearms almost never 
enter the picture. Finland does have the highest murder rate in 
Western Europe, but those cases—commonly related to alcohol or 
domestic abuse—often involve knives rather than guns. 

http://www.slate.com/id/2200722/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Making sense of nonsense

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Excellent article.

All you need to know:

Double-dipping welfare moms? Illegal immigrants? Muslim terrorists? 
It's anyone - except, of course, the bankers and the Federal Reserve -
 or so say again and again America's corrupt corporate media in whose 
interest it is for Americans to mistakenly blame others for the real 
cause of its woes.

The people will pay, the rich will profit.

Even greater financial disaster will result from Paulson's taxpayer 
bailout of his wealthy Wall Street friends.


 From a friend:
 
  
 
 Friends,
 
 I have been reading feverishly these past several months as our 
markets have entered turbulent times. The financial crisis America 
finds itself immersed in is summarized by the author below and echoed 
by more than a handful of market experts who publish respected 
newsletters. I chose Schoon's reflections to pass along because 1) 
Schoon is very readable and 2) He summarizes much of what I've 
learned these past months. If the point of view expressed below 
offends some, I apologize. The delete button is nearby...
 
 So that I can get a sense of how this article is being received, if 
moved to do so, let me know what you think of it.?
 
 Steve
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 By Darryl Robert Schoon (author of How to Survive the Crisis and 
Prosper in the Process)
 
  
 
 There is nothing more dangerous than when those responsible for a 
nation's troubles are believed to be its savior.
 
  
 
 If the truth be known - and someday it will be - central banks are 
at the very center of today's problems. Indeed, they caused them. 
Today's disintegration of capital markets based on debt-based paper 
began in 1913 with the creation of the US Federal Reserve Bank, the 
central bank of the US.
 
 ...Debt-based paper money has led nations and the world down a very 
dangerous path. Facilitating expansion by encumbering future revenues 
with compounding debt inevitably indebts individuals, businesses, and 
governments beyond their ability to repay.
 
 In the beginning, production expands, needs are met and everyone 
goes home happy. In the end, everyone's home gets repossessed. This 
is when the amount of debt has grown so large, governments, 
businesses, and consumers collapse under its collective weight.
 
 That's where we are today. We lived off tomorrow and tomorrow has 
arrived. What a surprise.
 
 Although in the past, continuing central bank intervention has 
proved inadequate, the ignorant, unknowing and desperate are yet 
again hoping that Paulson's latest plan will save them. But the 
collective solutions of Bernanke, Paulson, et. al. will again prove 
wanting.
 
 Indeed, Paulson's and Bernanke's continuing attempts to reverse the 
accelerating credit contraction will only make the final rendering 
all the more devastating.?
 
 Some are alleging that the US government's accelerating bailout of 
banks, insurance companies et. al. is socialism. Although it is 
government intervention in extremis, such intervention in the markets 
does not constitute socialism.
 
 The bailout of investment banks and corporations by the US 
government is fascism; the control and intervention of government by 
corporate interests designed to further corporate and state control. 
The multi-trillion dollar state support of JP Morgan, AIG, Fannie Mae 
and Freddie Mac and now perhaps soon GM, Ford, and Chrysler is 
fascism, not socialism.
 
 The August 2007 credit contraction was like a financial earthquake 
that unexpectedly shook global markets. It began as a series of 
crises that have continually escalated demanding greater and greater 
taxpayer resources.
 
 Now, the house itself is on fire but the cause and the proposed 
solution are always the same. The cause is always investment bank 
greed. The proposed solution is always more taxpayer money to bailout 
out more investment banks. This is not a solution. This is societal 
blackmail.
 
 When the US handed over the issuance of its money to the Federal 
Reserve in 1913 it did so in violation of the US Constitution. It 
illegally gave the right to issue US currency to a private bank and 
set in motion forces that would lead to today's extraordinary crisis.
 
 Today's extraordinary banking crisis was not unexpected - as 
private bankers claim and we believe. Today's crisis was inevitable 
and was in fact prophesized long before it happened. We were warned 
about this very occurrence two hundred years ago by no less than a 
founding father of the American republic, Thomas Jefferson.
 
 I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our 
liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow 
private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by 
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will 
grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property 
until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers 
conquered.
 

[FairfieldLife] Finally, somebody knows what sexism really is

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
And it takes a woman to point it out. Video at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/campbell-brown-rips-mccai_n_128782.html

or 

http://tinyurl.com/3vpp9c

Campbell Brown Rips McCain Camp's Sexist Treatment Of Palin

A prominent female news anchor chastised the McCain campaign Tuesday
evening for engaging in sexism and insulting behavior in its attempt
to shield Gov. Sarah Palin from members of the press.

In a fiery commentary, Campbell Brown laid into John McCain for
casting a chauvinistic chain that ran over his running mate.
Punctuated by a call to Free Sarah Palin, the CNN anchor highlighted
the attempt Tuesday by the McCain campaign to ban editorial reporters
from covering Palin's visit with world leaders at the UN, as yet
another gender-demeaning move in a campaign highlighted by sexist
behavior.

Tonight I call on the McCain campaign to stop treating Sarah Palin
like she is a delicate flower that will wilt at any moment, said
Brown. This woman is from Alaska for crying out loud. She is strong.
She is tough. She is confident. And you claim she is ready to be one
heart beat away form the presidency. If that is the case, then end
this chauvinistic treatment of her now. Allow her to show her stuff.
Allow her to face down those pesky reporters... Let her have a real
news conference with real questions. By treating Sarah Palin different
from the other candidates in this race, you are not showing her the
respect she deserves. Free Sarah Palin. Free her from the chauvinistic
chain you are binding her with. Sexism in this campaign must come to
an end. Sarah Palin has just as much a right to be a real candidate in
this race as the men do. So let her act like one.

This is, it seems, one of the strongest backlashes to the war that
McCain and his aides have waged with the press. Critical articles the
campaign can handle - easily chalked up to a liberal media bias. And
the lack of an organ to get out its message is really not a problem
when media outlets are still covering the candidate's every move
(though today, a near boycott occurred during Palin's trip to the UN).
But charges that the campaign is insulting women voters by shielding
its vice presidential nominee from the press are powerful and
persuasive, especially when they come from a well-known female news
anchor. Palin, it should be noted, will be taking questions from CBS's
Katie Couric on Wednesday.





[FairfieldLife] Re: YS I 35, part 1: transliteration

2008-09-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 (Harvard-Kyoto'ish transliteration)
 
 viSayavatii vaa pravRttirutpannaa manasaH sthitinibandhinii .. 35..
 
 Transliteration of Vyaasa-bhaaSya, in part:
 
 naasikaagre dhaarayato 'sya yaa divyagandhasaMvitsaa gandhapravRttiH |
 jihvaagre rasasaMvit | taaluni ruupasaMvit | jihvaamadhye 
 sparshasaMvit | jihvaamuule shabdasaMvidityetaa vRttaya utpannaashcittaM
 sthitau nibadhnanti, saMshayaM vidhamanti, samaadhiprajñaayaaM ca
 dvaarii bhavantiiti |
 
 Attempt at sandhi-vigraha (elimination of sandhi):
 
 naasikaa+agre dhaarayataH; asya yaa divya-gandha-saMvit saa
 gandha-pravRttiH | jihvaa+agre rasa-saMvit | taaluni ruupa-saMvit |
 jihvaa-madhye sparsha-saMvit | jihvaa-muule shabda-saMvit; iti; etaaH;
 vRttayaH; utpannaaH; cittam; sthitau nibadhnanti, saMshayam; vidhamanti,
 samaadhi-prajñaayaam; ca dvaarii bhavanti+iti |


Sorry, tried to translate that but it turned out to be
way too tedious for my mood at the moment. But in short,
the commentator seems to claim something like that
doing dhaaraNaa on the tip of the nose results to divine
sense of smell(divya-gandha-saMvit), or stuff; on the tip of the
tongue (jihvaagre),  the same for taste; on the palate (taaluni):
seeing (ruupa = form); on the middle to the tongue (jihvaa-madhye):
touch; and on the root of the tongue (jihvaa-muule): hearing.

That stuff in turn results to steadiness of mind (cittaM sthitau
nibadhnanti), blowing away of doubt (saMshayaM vidhamanti),
and (?)opening of the door(?) for samaadhi-prajñaa. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't like to 
 play provider roulette which many people do.  

HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows as part
of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of the The Wire
last night. How I LOVED that series!




[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't 
  like to play provider roulette which many people do.  
 
 HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows 
 as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of 
 the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series!

 eyepatch mode ON 

I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch 
any American or British TV show I want to, from 
any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them
all without ever having to see a single commercial. 
And I don't pay a penny for any of them. 

You guys are still talking about these pay cable
and satellite services as if you need them. 

 eyepatch mode OFF 





[FairfieldLife] Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Especially during a financial meltdown:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Especially during a financial meltdown:
 
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece

Let's do the math, shall we?

Because of the mismanagement of scores of CEOs
of financial companies, the Bush administration
is now proposing a 700-billion-dollar bailout
package to essentially *reward* these same CEOs
and say, We're going to pretend you didn't fuck
up and ruin the economy...here's some free money.

But the money isn't free, and it isn't theirs.
It's YOURS, you taxpayers in America. And 700
billion dollars translates to approximately 
2,333 dollars for each man, woman, and child
in the United States. (If I did the math right.)

The people who *caused* this financial meltdown
are not only going to get away Scot-free, they're
going to get away rich. While YOU and your children
pony up $2,333 each so that they can do it.

Isn't about bloody time that a few people dragged
these CEO sumbitches into an alley and kicked the
crap out of them, before throwing them into prison
where they'll be raped daily for the next 20 years, 
the same way they've been raping 300,000,000 
Americans?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yikes! Next time you want to bean me with an Ayer's molotov
 cocktail, read the article more carefully.

funny line




[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
 is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.

Why?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Especially during a financial meltdown:
  
  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece
 
 Let's do the math, shall we?
 
 Because of the mismanagement of scores of CEOs
 of financial companies, the Bush administration
 is now proposing a 700-billion-dollar bailout
 package to essentially *reward* these same CEOs
 and say, We're going to pretend you didn't fuck
 up and ruin the economy...here's some free money.
 
 But the money isn't free, and it isn't theirs.
 It's YOURS, you taxpayers in America. And 700
 billion dollars translates to approximately 
 2,333 dollars for each man, woman, and child
 in the United States. (If I did the math right.)

Ooops. As it turns out, my math is NOT right.
It's far too low a figure. According to Reuters
and CNET, the cost is more like $17,064 per
household:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10049551-38.html

Are you angry yet?

Ready to kick a little CEO and Republican ass yet?

If not, why the hell not?

 The people who *caused* this financial meltdown
 are not only going to get away Scot-free, they're
 going to get away rich. While YOU and your children
 pony up $2,333 each so that they can do it.
 
 Isn't about bloody time that a few people dragged
 these CEO sumbitches into an alley and kicked the
 crap out of them, before throwing them into prison
 where they'll be raped daily for the next 20 years, 
 the same way they've been raping 300,000,000 
 Americans?

My proposed 20-year sentences were based on
the $2,333 per American figure. Given the 
new, higher figure, we should probably up 
that to 40 years in prison, without the 
possibility of parole or K-Y.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:53 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter
than Americans

 

Especially during a financial meltdown:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece

And the murder happened in NOIDA. Where's the coherence?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
I knew it wouldn't.) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 ...The Obama campaign has struggled to
 downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
 as just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, and not somebody who I
 exchange ideas with on a regular basis. Yet documents in the CAC
 archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
 CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
 University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
 through them.
 
 The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
 Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
 initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
 was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
 matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
 Collaborative, which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
 has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming guilt by
 association. Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
 guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
 and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
 story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.
 read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
 
 New York Times 9/11/2001 I don't regret setting bombs, Bill Ayers
 said. I feel we didn't do enough. Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
 a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
 his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
 of Chicago... read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd





[FairfieldLife] Re: Making sense of nonsense

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From a friend:
 
  
 
 Friends,
 
 I have been reading feverishly these past several months as our 
markets have entered turbulent times. The financial crisis America 
finds itself immersed in is summarized by the author below and echoed 
by more than a handful of market experts who publish respected 
newsletters.

If all these fools, commonly called The Public, had followed Maharishis 
advice to buy gold when it was under 200 an ounce they would not go 
bankrupt enmasse today.



[FairfieldLife] Trick or Treat !

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex


http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/mcpalin_halloween1.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
 these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
 education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
 ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
 nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
 I knew it wouldn't.) 


The ethically crippled rely on ethically free crutches. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: now: the absurdity of the idea of willling fewer initiations

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Sep 22, 2008, at 8:27 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
 
  That seems like a really honest assessment to me.
 
 
  Yup, me too, spot on...
 
  Besides, regular meditators are passing away faster than new 
ones  
  are starting anyway
 
 That's a depressing thought.  I'd like to think people are
 simply finding more interesting things to do than
 actually checking out.  Hope I'm not kidding myself.
 
 Sal

If they had a checking regularily, and believe me they don't, they 
would not check out before the age of say roundabout 80. 

The stable first generation TM-meditators I know of are now in their 
80's or 90's, some few are older that 100 years and are very active 
indeed. And none of these first generation meditators, the Pioneers 
of the Age of Enlightenment, have any problems with alzheimer. 
One gentleman I know was 52 years old when he learned TM from 
Maharishi in 1960. Last week he attended his first computercourse for 
seniors, has bought a PC and is now paying his bills via the 
internet :-) 




[FairfieldLife] Lots of Hugs !

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex


http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/lotsahugs.JPG



[FairfieldLife] Brain Surgery

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex


Governor Palin, are you ready at this moment to perform surgery on
this child's brain?

Of course, Charlie. I have several boys of my own, and I'm an avid
hunter.

But governor, this is neurosurgery, and you have no training as a
surgeon of any kind.

That's just the point, Charlie. The American people want change in
how we make medical decisions in this country. And when faced with a
challenge, you cannot blink. 

~~  Sam Harris in NEWSWEEK 
http://www.newsweek.com/id/160080/output/print



[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While Finns have a reputation for violence, firearms almost never 
 enter the picture. Finland does have the highest murder rate in 
 Western Europe, but those cases—commonly related to alcohol or 
 domestic abuse—often involve knives rather than guns. 

A swedish fellow I know was stabbed with a knife by a finnish 
construction-worker. When arrested he protested to the police 
saying But I did not hurt him, I only scratched him !

The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they simply 
cannot handle the effects of alcohol.

But cardemaister, being gay, surely is not drinking much.



[FairfieldLife] McCain campaign ghost-writes fake letters to the editor

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
For those who believe the letters to the editors
they read, and believe that they come from real
people:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/24/mccain_letters/

I ghost-wrote letters to the editor for the McCain campaign
By Margriet Oostveen

I spent a morning in John McCain's Virginia campaign headquarters
ghost-writing letters to the editor for McCain supporters to sign. I
even pretended to have a son in Iraq.

Editor's note: The following article was originally published on Sept.
13 in Dutch in the newspaper NRC Handelsblad, where Margriet Oostveen
writes a weekly column called Message From Washington. Oostveen has
volunteered in various political campaigns and then written about the
experience. She has worked for both John McCain and Barack Obama in
this election cycle. Click here to see guidelines, talking points and
sample letters the McCain campaign gave her.


Sept. 24, 2008 | You can be whoever you want to be, says an inviting
Phil Tuchman. You can be a beggar or a millionaire. A mom or a
husband. Whatever. You decide!

I volunteer in political campaigns now and then. After a series of
outings for Obama and a first mission as a phone banker for John
McCain, I returned to McCain's headquarters in Arlington, Va. The
offer was too alluring to delay -- they wanted to put me into action
as a ghostwriter. Next to commercials and phone banking, writing
letters to the editor is the most important method of the McCain
campaign to attract voters. At least that is what's written in the
guidelines that McCain campaign worker Phil Tuchman presents to me.

Today he is training six ghostwriters. What on earth is the appeal of
McCain for the former Soviet bloc? Last time I was here, an exuberant
Polish guy was phone banking next to me. Today, a Russian in yellow
suspenders is shimmering at the same table, looking just like an actor
who is famous in the Netherlands for star turns as a genius who
suppresses his dark side with painstaking self-control.

The assignment is simple: We are going to write letters to the editor
and we are allowed to make up whatever we want -- as long as it adds
to the campaign. After today we are supposed to use our free moments
at home to create a flow of fictional fan mail for McCain. Your
letters, says Phil Tuchman, will be sent to our campaign offices in
battle states. Ohio. Pennsylvania. Virginia. New Hampshire. There
we'll place them in local newspapers.

Place them? I may be wrong, but I thought that in the USA only a
newspaper's editors decided that.

We will show your letters to our supporters in those states,
explains Phil. If they say: 'Yeah, he/she is right!' then we ask them
to sign your letter. And then we send that letter to the local
newspaper. That's how we send dozens of letters at once.

No newspaper can refuse a stream of articulate expressions of support,
is the thought behind it. This way, we will always get into some
letters column.

It is the day after Sarah Palin's speech at the Republican convention.
Today, she is our main subject. The others are already
enthusiastically hammering their keyboards. I am struggling with a
tiny writer's block. Dear Editor ...
Quantcast

Phil Tuchman has handed out model letters, and talking points and
quotes from Sarah Palin's speech. But whom do I want to be?

Let's loosen up my fingers a little first -- and my principles, too.
Am I actually allowed to make up letters? At the moment, it seems to
be the only way to demonstrate how this is done in a campaign. So yes.
I start practicing attractive sentences about Sarah Palin:

Her biggest plus to me is that, besides being amazingly smart and
qualified, she managed to remain a woman like us. She is the PTA
hockey moms. She is the working mothers of special needs children. She
is every caring mother of a challenging teenager.

Her pregnant daughter Bristol (17) is not a talking point. A talking
point is her son Track (19), who will be deployed to Iraq.

And most of all, she is just like any mother of a child who deploys
to Iraq in the service of this country.

Now we are getting somewhere. I look around. I type:

My son, too, is there.

Oh god, you liar. Now build up suspense. New paragraph.

And my heart needs him back safe so much.

Yes, yes. Well done. Another paragraph -- why not? Now let's pump some
iron in that mother, for after all, we are not with the Democrats
here. Look up the right, patriotic phraseology in the model letters.

But when I see him again, I also want to see his face glow with
pride. Just like the day he told me he enlisted.

Yes, like that. And now full speed in the direction of McCain's plans
to continue the war. Sell that war. With a mother's heart.

That is why Senator John McCain could count on my vote from day one.

But whatever happened to Sarah Palin in this story? I gaze out of the
window. This takes 10 minutes. Then:

With Sarah Palin, I have even more reason to trust in victory. She
represents my heart.

Hmm. Does that sound like total 

[FairfieldLife] Re: McCain campaign ghost-writes fake letters to the editor

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For those who believe the letters to the editors
 they read, and believe that they come from real
 people:
 
 http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/24/mccain_letters/
 
 I ghost-wrote letters to the editor for the McCain campaign
 By Margriet Oostveen

Doesn't it make you wonder who *really* writes
the stuff that Raunchydog and Shemp and Judy
sign their names to here?  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Religion/Spirituality

2008-09-24 Thread John

The Grandeur of God is Far Greater then our 
little planet and all of it's different religions 
and beliefs. 



 A Word about
Religion and Spirituality
  Religion serves a wonderful purpose. It provides loving
standards for living, offers reassurance in a world of fear, and
offers a pathway toward the divine. However, regardless of a
person's affiliation, each participant brings their life history and
assorted beliefs and emotions to their religious understanding.
Even the teachings of the saints have passed through density
filters and interpretations, as those who with sincerity offered in-
terpretations. Each person has their own sense of the divine.
 Whether reunion is thought of as a Heaven available only
after death, or whether it is attained as an Enlightenment or
Nirvana available through disciplined practice matters not. What
matters is one's sincerity. All prayer is prayer...all worship of
God offers the opportunity for connection, recognition and
reunion. Thus, all paths are to be blessed and honored for their
Intent. It is through the subsequent interpretation and practice
that religious conflicts are born from human minds.
 There are many helpers on the path. These teachers hold
the Light and help us find our way. However, at some point one
must simply leap. That leap of surrender is a solo plunge into
unity. Religion can bring you to the door, however, you must
walk through that door yourself and experience the Divine.
Such is the path of the mystic.
 Spirituality is the life force that spawned religion. It is the
essential truth that offers the knowing of divine connection.
Religion is the secondary expression. It was created to satisfy the
density-brain, to offer an organized response to spiritual long-
ing, to answer cosmic questions, to provide codes of conduct
and to organize people. God has no religion. Thus, all spiritual 
practices, all religions, offer the potential for Divine connection.
It is up to the individ-u-will to benefit from their religion by
viewing it as a springboard to surrender.
  Humanity must learn to relax into its spiritual essence if
we are to witness Peace on Earth. The process of releasing the
refractory devices is the way to Oneness. The path to unity used
to take years. Today it can be achieved in the blink of an eye
or a collection of moments. Be assured that Enlightenment is
more attainable at this time in history than ever before.
  Be grateful to your religion of origin. Be grateful that
there are many paths. There is one God essence seeking to
 emerge through all of them. What a glorious diversity! People
 ask us if the path of Self-Ascension is a religion; it is not. We
 are offering practices, wisdom, and teachings designed to help
 you get acquainted with your own divinity. How you walk your
 path is unique to you. Each person, regardless of their level of
 discernment, offers light into the world. Each is to be cherished.
 Each is honored for it takes spiritual courage to be here.
  


Thank You for your visit 
 
John 

http://clevelandohiousa.tripod.com/religionspirituality/




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
 Especially during a financial meltdown:
 
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece
 
 And the murder happened in NOIDA. Where's the coherence?

Oh dear. Rick, you are seriously out of touch as usual.

What makes you think there is a group in Noida nowadays ? From my 
information there has been no Pundits or other groups there for several 
years. 

AND, Noida is a big city theses days. Even a very large group may not 
be able to prevent particular inscidents due to irreversable carma. But 
for Rick Archer that's not enough; for him thinking a matter through is 
a waste of time, or so it seems. As long as it could smear the TMO in 
any way possible Rick Archer will be there, right up in the front !

Regardless of the substance.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Racist White Democrats may cost Obama the White House

2008-09-24 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 What's really ironic, Robert, is that the language of race, as the 
 author puts it in his article, is virtually the exclusive domain NOT 
 of the Republicans but of the Dixiecrats of the Old South WHO WERE 
 ALL DEMOCRATS.
 
 And even today, that still holds true:  a recent poll found that 1/3 
 of all WHITE DEMOCRATS harbour racist feelins towards Obama AND THIS 
 FACT ALONE COULD COST HIM THE WHITE HOUSE...NOT REPUBICANS!
 
 See: http://tinyurl.com/456bmp

Yes, this is true...
When LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, is when they turned.
And the comment that Jesse Jackson shows that black people can hold 
race against Obama.
That would be the biggest irony of all.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Robert
 (snip) 
 The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they simply 
 cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
  (snip)
Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous drug 
called alcohol.
Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like marijuana 
or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by society as 
unacceptible.
Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that they 
haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to the 
effects of marijuana.
So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over the anti-
hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of fact, when 
so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or make 
there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
Well you get the picture.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Racist White Democrats may cost Obama the White House

2008-09-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Did you just out yourself?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan Hirschmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:50 AM, John wrote:
 
  It's the clash of energies that is important.
 
  In other words, it's the fluctuation of the gunas, in vedic terms.
 
 Sure glad that's in Vedic terms, John.  For a moment
 there it sounded like plain old ordinary English terms.
 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
  is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.



 Why?


Your kidding. But then you live in a country where 80 people
are shot dead every day so maybe that really needs a reply: 
This guy was unlikely to storm into his old school and strangle 
ten people. Just as the English mass-murderers at Dunblane and 
Hungerford wouldn't have become so notorious if they didn't have
an arsenal of weapons under the bed. Madness.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just a
guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term working
relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
what the future president of our country is hiding?


Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the least bit

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
 these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
 education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
 ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
 nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
 I knew it wouldn't.) 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 ...The Obama campaign has struggled to
  downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
  as just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, and not somebody who I
  exchange ideas with on a regular basis. Yet documents in the CAC
  archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
  CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
  University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
  through them.
  
  The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
  Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
  initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
  was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
  matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
  Collaborative, which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
  has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming guilt by
  association. Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
  guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
  and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
  story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.
  read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
  
  New York Times 9/11/2001 I don't regret setting bombs, Bill Ayers
  said. I feel we didn't do enough. Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
  a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
  his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
  of Chicago... read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (snip) 
  The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they 
simply 
  cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
   (snip)
 Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous drug 
 called alcohol.
 Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like 
marijuana 
 or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by society as 
 unacceptible.
 Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
 legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that they 
 haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to the 
 effects of marijuana.
 So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
 Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over the 
anti-
 hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of fact, 
when 
 so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or make 
 there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
 If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
 Well you get the picture.
 R.G.


I think you'll find that the effects of smoking maryjoanna are 
learned, that is the hippy types who used to smoke it taught 
newcomers how to get high in their gentle way. It's very psycho-
somatic. There are plenty of young street muggers and gang members
in the UK who get stoned before going out on the prowl.

Come to think of it the Vikings used to get out of their heads
on mushrooms before going on a rape and pillage so maybe all drug 
effects are cultural. I hope the legalizers don't regret this too 
much.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Racist White Democrats may cost Obama the White House

2008-09-24 Thread Susan Hirschmann
On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:50 AM, John wrote:

 It's the clash of energies that is important.

 In other words, it's the fluctuation of the gunas, in vedic terms.

Sure glad that's in Vedic terms, John.  For a moment
there it sounded like plain old ordinary English terms.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Racist White Democrats may cost Obama the White House

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you just out yourself?

No, it was that same guy who hacked Sarah 
Palin's email accounts on Gmail. Turns out
that he's not only a misogynist pig w.r.t.
Sarah but also has a long-standing grudge
against somebody named Susan, so he's going
around hacking her names onto every email
address he can get his hands on. Yeah, 
that's the ticket.  :-)

More seriously, and presented as evidence
that Sarah Palin shouldn't be allowed within
twenty miles of the White House, the FBI just 
raided the apartment of the guy who might have 
done the Sarah Palin hacking, and if it's 
really him and the rumors are true, do you 
know HOW he hacked her account? 

He read the newspaper reports about Sarah
Palin and, just from details about her life
that were freely available in the press, 
figured out what her password was. He's 19.

Now doesn't THAT make you feel all warm and
fuzzy about the person who is potentially
going to have a password into the most
sensitive and secret information on Earth?  :-)


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan Hirschmann
 salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:50 AM, John wrote:
  
It's the clash of energies that is important.
  
   In other words, it's the fluctuation of the gunas, in 
   vedic terms.
  
  Sure glad that's in Vedic terms, John.  For a moment
  there it sounded like plain old ordinary English terms.
  
  Sal
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
   (snip) 
   The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they 
 simply 
   cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
(snip)
  Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous drug 
  called alcohol.
  Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like 
 marijuana 
  or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by society 
as 
  unacceptible.
  Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
  legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that 
they 
  haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to the 
  effects of marijuana.
  So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
  Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over the 
 anti-
  hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of fact, 
 when 
  so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or 
make 
  there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
  If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
  Well you get the picture.
  R.G.
 
 
 I think you'll find that the effects of smoking maryjoanna are 
 learned, that is the hippy types who used to smoke it taught 
 newcomers how to get high in their gentle way. It's very psycho-
 somatic. There are plenty of young street muggers and gang members
 in the UK who get stoned before going out on the prowl.
 
 Come to think of it the Vikings used to get out of their heads
 on mushrooms before going on a rape and pillage so maybe all drug 
 effects are cultural. I hope the legalizers don't regret this too 
 much.

So, what about the Sadhus of India?
What would you say about this?
I don't think they go on raping and pillaging.
Not sure what you mean by psychosoatic?
What are you talking about?
Don't remember any reports of raping and pillaging at Woodstock...
That must have been undereported.



[FairfieldLife] Campbell Brown on -sexist treatment- of Palin by McCain campaign

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlXxMY2LHI



[FairfieldLife] Optical illusion explained.

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo


http://tinyurl.com/4fx5wh




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:15 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are
smarter than Americans

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 
 Especially during a financial meltdown:
 
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece
 
 And the murder happened in NOIDA. Where's the coherence?

Oh dear. Rick, you are seriously out of touch as usual.

What makes you think there is a group in Noida nowadays ? From my 
information there has been no Pundits or other groups there for several 
years. 

AND, Noida is a big city theses days. Even a very large group may not 
be able to prevent particular inscidents due to irreversable carma. But 
for Rick Archer that's not enough; for him thinking a matter through is 
a waste of time, or so it seems. As long as it could smear the TMO in 
any way possible Rick Archer will be there, right up in the front !

Regardless of the substance.

You're right Nabby. The murder happened because the coherence creating group
left Noida.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
Interesting that you decline at the end of your post into complete
incoherence. Need I say more? A coke-addled brain, perhaps? And you
know very well what you are trying to do -- create some bogus link
between Obama and terrorism. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
 The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
 poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
 Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
 answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
 Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
 does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
 question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
 about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
 period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just a
 guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term working
 relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
 what the future president of our country is hiding?
 
 
 Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
 questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the least bit
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
  these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
  education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
  ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
  nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
  I knew it wouldn't.) 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
  
   Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 ...The Obama campaign has struggled to
   downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr.
Ayers
   as just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, and not somebody
who I
   exchange ideas with on a regular basis. Yet documents in the CAC
   archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners
in the
   CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library
at the
   University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days
looking
   through them.
   
   The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
   Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
   initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
   was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
   matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
   Collaborative, which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
   has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming guilt by
   association. Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
   guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
   and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
   story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years
ago.
   read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
   
   New York Times 9/11/2001 I don't regret setting bombs, Bill Ayers
   said. I feel we didn't do enough. Mr. Ayers, who spent the
1970's as
   a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
   his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park
district
   of Chicago... read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
  
 





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Making sense of nonsense

2008-09-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:22 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Making sense of nonsense

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From a friend:
 
 
 
 Friends,
 
 I have been reading feverishly these past several months as our 
markets have entered turbulent times. The financial crisis America 
finds itself immersed in is summarized by the author below and echoed 
by more than a handful of market experts who publish respected 
newsletters.

If all these fools, commonly called The Public, had followed Maharishis 
advice to buy gold when it was under 200 an ounce they would not go 
bankrupt enmasse today.

When did he advise that? Did you buy any?



[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev quote

2008-09-24 Thread Rick Archer
'Do good works without hesitation

The Jiva has been experiencing samsara for many, many births. It is only
natural, therefore, that its tendencies have become worldly. To turn its
tendency toward Paramatma [God] and away from samsara [worldly life]
requires effort. In reality, the aim of life is to stop the mind from
involvement with this world. If one engages in the spiritual practice of
Bhagavan and in thinking and speaking about Him, the mind will start
dwelling on Him, and after some time, it will withdraw from samsara on its
own.

In our daily affairs we should adopt a strategy of quickly attending to good
works and things related to the divine. Should any wrong thought arise, on
the other hand, we should try to postpone it to another time by saying,
I'll do it tomorrow, or the day after next. In this way, wrong action can
be continuously postponed.

To be born a human is more fortunate than to be born a deva.

Taking birth as a deva is considered comparable to taking birth as any other
life form. Birth as a god is attained by those who perform certain
sacrifices and karma, etc. associated with divinity, with the intention to
enjoy divine pleasures. The minds of the devatas wander incessantly because
of the abundance of enjoyable things in the heavenly realms, and hence they
cannot perform purushartha [actions consistent with the goals of human life
and evolution]. For this reason, the human birth is considered superior,
because here, by doing as much purushartha as possible, one can eventually
become one with God.

A human being is like a lump of pure gold, whereas gods are like pieces of
fine jewellery. Having been perfected as jewellery, their progression is
complete, and they cannot be further improved. On the other hand, gold which
has not yet been crafted by the jeweller is completely unrestricted in its
potential. Hence the birth of a human being is said to be the very best
birth for action. Having attained this birth, one should not act carelessly,
but should conscientiously perform the best purushartha. Fulfilling one's
own dharma while keeping faith in Paramatma is the greatest purushartha.
Strive to become one with God in this lifetime. Have firm faith in the Vedas
and Shastras and keep the company of saints, mahatmas and wise people. Only
then will the purpose of your life be fulfilled.'



[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ 
wrote:
  
(snip) 
The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they 
  simply 
cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
 (snip)
   Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous 
drug 
   called alcohol.
   Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like 
  marijuana 
   or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by 
society 
 as 
   unacceptible.
   Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
   legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that 
 they 
   haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to 
the 
   effects of marijuana.
   So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
   Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over 
the 
  anti-
   hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of 
fact, 
  when 
   so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or 
 make 
   there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
   If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
   Well you get the picture.
   R.G.
  
  
  I think you'll find that the effects of smoking maryjoanna are 
  learned, that is the hippy types who used to smoke it taught 
  newcomers how to get high in their gentle way. It's very psycho-
  somatic. There are plenty of young street muggers and gang members
  in the UK who get stoned before going out on the prowl.
  
  Come to think of it the Vikings used to get out of their heads
  on mushrooms before going on a rape and pillage so maybe all drug 
  effects are cultural. I hope the legalizers don't regret this too 
  much.
 
 So, what about the Sadhus of India?
 What would you say about this?
 I don't think they go on raping and pillaging.
 Not sure what you mean by psychosoatic?
 What are you talking about?
 Don't remember any reports of raping and pillaging at Woodstock...
 That must have been undereported.

I'm sure you could have worked it out from that with a bit more
care, but to enlarge: The effects of drugs are cultural, that is 
they are learned behaviour. Gentle hippy types teach newcomers 
to their group to have the same sort of experiences they do. As 
do the gangs in the UK only in their case it's all violent. It's
not the drugs but the attitude of the groups that use them to
different ends.

The sadhus in India would belong more to the hippy tradition of 
visions and (hopefully) greater understanding. 

Vikings, being a bit more aggressive and into bloody conquest 
used the same things mystics did. But they had a different 
mindset to start with you see? If they had met me and my mates 
history might have been different and we all would have gone 
to India for a pretty interesting party!

So no, there was no rape and pillage at woodstock but it's
more common at festivals these days, sad to say.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:15 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which 
Indians are
 smarter than Americans
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
  
  
  Especially during a financial meltdown:
  
  
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece
  
  And the murder happened in NOIDA. Where's the coherence?
 
 Oh dear. Rick, you are seriously out of touch as usual.
 
 What makes you think there is a group in Noida nowadays ? From my 
 information there has been no Pundits or other groups there for 
several 
 years. 
 
 AND, Noida is a big city theses days. Even a very large group may 
not 
 be able to prevent particular inscidents due to irreversable carma. 
But 
 for Rick Archer that's not enough; for him thinking a matter 
through is 
 a waste of time, or so it seems. As long as it could smear the TMO 
in 
 any way possible Rick Archer will be there, right up in the front !
 
 Regardless of the substance.
 
 You're right Nabby. The murder happened because the coherence 
creating group
 left Noida.

I see, so Rick Archer knows the carmic details leading up to this 
isolated death. How did he know that, did he ask his dogs ?

I don't think so, but what is abundantly clear to anyone who can read 
is that if there is a link anywhere, somewhere, whether true or not 
true; if it in ANY way could smear the TMO, Rich Archer will 
immediately be there to give you the news ! 

No coherence-creating group in Noida anymore ?? Doesn't matter 
because MAHARISHI once was there ! See the connection ? If not, 
please ask Rick Archer for clarification.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


 Even a very large group may not 
 be able to prevent particular inscidents due to irreversable carma. 

Thanks Nabby, another one for my collection of lame excuses
of why none of these technologies work.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Making sense of nonsense

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:22 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Making sense of nonsense
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
 
  From a friend:
  
  
  
  Friends,
  
  I have been reading feverishly these past several months as our 
 markets have entered turbulent times. The financial crisis America 
 finds itself immersed in is summarized by the author below and 
echoed 
 by more than a handful of market experts who publish respected 
 newsletters.
 
 If all these fools, commonly called The Public, had followed 
Maharishis 
 advice to buy gold when it was under 200 an ounce they would not go 
 bankrupt enmasse today.
 
 When did he advise that? Did you buy any?

Early 80's when you wasn't paying attention.
Why, ofcorse. My investment has gone up 500%.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
 
  Even a very large group may not 
  be able to prevent particular inscidents due to irreversable carma. 
 
 Thanks Nabby, another one for my collection of lame excuses
 of why none of these technologies work.

Get a checking. 
Then perhaps, but only perhaps, will you understand how this technology 
works.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.

The smear is calling the Annenburg Foundation some kind of radical
anti-american group.  You clearly don't know the first thing about the
Annenburg Foundation.

 The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
 poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
 Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
 answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
 Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
 does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
 question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
 about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
 period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just a
 guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term working
 relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
 what the future president of our country is hiding?
 
 
 Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
 questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the least bit
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
  these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
  education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
  ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
  nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
  I knew it wouldn't.) 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
  
   Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 ...The Obama campaign has struggled to
   downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr.
Ayers
   as just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, and not somebody
who I
   exchange ideas with on a regular basis. Yet documents in the CAC
   archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners
in the
   CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library
at the
   University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days
looking
   through them.
   
   The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
   Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
   initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
   was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
   matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
   Collaborative, which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
   has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming guilt by
   association. Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
   guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
   and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
   story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years
ago.
   read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
   
   New York Times 9/11/2001 I don't regret setting bombs, Bill Ayers
   said. I feel we didn't do enough. Mr. Ayers, who spent the
1970's as
   a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
   his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park
district
   of Chicago... read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have drafted my
post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits... Everyone
is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's life.
Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? Why aren't
you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
country is hiding? If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
about and will lie to us as our future president?

My post should have read:
I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president
from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
$100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of
this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just
a guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term
working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious
to know what the future president of our country is hiding?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
I'm not convinced that Obama is hiding anything. He has better
things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of people
like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers, who,
as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
University of Chicago. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have drafted my
 post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
 coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
 Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits... Everyone
 is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's life.
 Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
 business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
 us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? Why aren't
 you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
 country is hiding? If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
 about and will lie to us as our future president?
 
 My post should have read:
 I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
 The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
 poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
 Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president
 from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
 Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
 Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
 $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
 any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
 bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of
 this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just
 a guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term
 working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious
 to know what the future president of our country is hiding?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. The Chicago
Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago's public
schools. CAC funding came from a national education initiative by
Ambassador Walter Annenberg. Ayers wrote a grant to get money from the
foundation. He got the money and used it to promote his radical
ideology for school children. No one ever said the Annenburg
Foundation was a radical anti-American group. Improved reader
comprehension would help.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
 
 The smear is calling the Annenburg Foundation some kind of radical
 anti-american group.  You clearly don't know the first thing about the
 Annenburg Foundation.
 
  The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
  poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
  Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
  answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
  Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
  does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
  million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
  question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
  about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
  period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just a
  guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term working
  relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
  what the future president of our country is hiding?
  
  
  Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
  questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the
least bit
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
   these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
   education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine
points
   ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
   nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't
fly,as
   I knew it wouldn't.) 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
 wrote:
   
Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 ...The Obama campaign has
struggled to
downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr.
 Ayers
as just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, and not somebody
 who I
exchange ideas with on a regular basis. Yet documents in the CAC
archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners
 in the
CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library
 at the
University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days
 looking
through them.

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national
education
initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr.
Obama
was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled
fiscal
matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
Collaborative, which shaped education policy...The Obama
campaign
has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming guilt by
association. Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending
moral
and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle.
That is a
story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years
 ago.
read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu

New York Times 9/11/2001 I don't regret setting bombs, Bill
Ayers
said. I feel we didn't do enough. Mr. Ayers, who spent the
 1970's as
a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the
kitchen of
his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park
 district
of Chicago... read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow on Countdown: George Will Blasts McCain

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOyYGw87Uqk



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take that
with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE FRIGGIN'
PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant about it.
That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
rather than Trust me, I'm Obama. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not convinced that Obama is hiding anything. He has better
 things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of people
 like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers, who,
 as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
 University of Chicago. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have drafted my
  post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
  coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
  Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits... Everyone
  is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's life.
  Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
  business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
  us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? Why aren't
  you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
  country is hiding? If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
  about and will lie to us as our future president?
  
  My post should have read:
  I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
  The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
  poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
  Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president
  from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
  Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
  Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
  $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
  any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
  bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of
  this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just
  a guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term
  working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious
  to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 Especially during a financial meltdown:

 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece
   
 Let's do the math, shall we?

 Because of the mismanagement of scores of CEOs
 of financial companies, the Bush administration
 is now proposing a 700-billion-dollar bailout
 package to essentially *reward* these same CEOs
 and say, We're going to pretend you didn't fuck
 up and ruin the economy...here's some free money.

 But the money isn't free, and it isn't theirs.
 It's YOURS, you taxpayers in America. And 700
 billion dollars translates to approximately 
 2,333 dollars for each man, woman, and child
 in the United States. (If I did the math right.)
 

 Ooops. As it turns out, my math is NOT right.
 It's far too low a figure. According to Reuters
 and CNET, the cost is more like $17,064 per
 household:

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10049551-38.html

 Are you angry yet?

 Ready to kick a little CEO and Republican ass yet?

 If not, why the hell not?
   
But you've always argued that Americans are too wimpy take to the 
streets.  Do you think that is going to change now?  I didn't here much 
of any discussion yesterday while waiting in the courtroom about the 
bailout.  In fact the discussion that got going was about Vista and how 
terrible it is.  Of course I had to throw in my tip about how to get 
Vista to boot up and ready to go in one minute: format the hard drive 
and install Linux.  :-)

My guru always asks why Americans let the Bush administration get away 
with murder when if this were India people *would* be rioting in the 
streets.

   
 The people who *caused* this financial meltdown
 are not only going to get away Scot-free, they're
 going to get away rich. While YOU and your children
 pony up $2,333 each so that they can do it.

 Isn't about bloody time that a few people dragged
 these CEO sumbitches into an alley and kicked the
 crap out of them, before throwing them into prison
 where they'll be raped daily for the next 20 years, 
 the same way they've been raping 300,000,000 
 Americans?
 

 My proposed 20-year sentences were based on
 the $2,333 per American figure. Given the 
 new, higher figure, we should probably up 
 that to 40 years in prison, without the 
 possibility of parole or K-Y.
Try the number of actual taxpayers which was around 131 million in 2003 
and the number *is* much higher.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

 [snip]

 
 I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't 
 like to play provider roulette which many people do.  
   
 HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows 
 as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of 
 the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series!
 

  eyepatch mode ON 

 I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch 
 any American or British TV show I want to, from 
 any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them
 all without ever having to see a single commercial. 
 And I don't pay a penny for any of them. 

 You guys are still talking about these pay cable
 and satellite services as if you need them. 

  eyepatch mode OFF 
But we've got cops with nothing better to do than bust grannies who 
download an MP3.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:

 My proposed 20-year sentences were based on
 the $2,333 per American figure. Given the 
 new, higher figure, we should probably up 
 that to 40 years in prison, without the 
 possibility of parole or K-Y.
Notice who's screaming and yelling in the press about the need to pass 
the bailout.  It's not the public, it's the rich bastards.  Looks like 
they'll go broke if it isn't passed.  So folks get on the phone and tell 
your congressman NOT to pass it and we'll wipe the 1% who own most of 
the wealth.  Now that truly would be a beating they'd never forget.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

  Ooops. As it turns out, my math is NOT right.
  It's far too low a figure. According to Reuters
  and CNET, the cost is more like $17,064 per
  household:
 
  http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10049551-38.html
 
  Are you angry yet?
 
  Ready to kick a little CEO and Republican ass yet?
 
  If not, why the hell not?

 But you've always argued that Americans are too wimpy take 
 to the streets.  

Of course they are.

 Do you think that is going to change now?  

Of course not. I was merely rubbing it in
that they're such enormous wusses. :-)

 I didn't here much of any discussion yesterday while waiting 
 in the courtroom about the bailout.  

Of course not. The thinking is, Whew...some-
body says that they can fix things. Just do it
and don't tell us how, so we can go back to
watching 'American Idol.'

The bailout is yet another example of 
Desperate Housewives thinking. They can't
pay the credit card bills, so they're apply-
ing for out another credit card with an
additional 1.8 trillion dollar limit. They
will put it all on the new card and go back
to watching 'American Idol.'





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Vaj


On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

[snip]


I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't
like to play provider roulette which many people do.


HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows
as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of
the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series!


 eyepatch mode ON 

I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch
any American or British TV show I want to, from
any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them
all without ever having to see a single commercial.
And I don't pay a penny for any of them.

You guys are still talking about these pay cable
and satellite services as if you need them.

 eyepatch mode OFF 



Perhaps because we don't want to break the law?

I do pay for what I use. It's really that simple.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
Do a Google search on Ayers well-respected professor of education
and see how wrong you are. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
 professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take that
 with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE FRIGGIN'
 PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant about it.
 That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
 rather than Trust me, I'm Obama. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I'm not convinced that Obama is hiding anything. He has better
  things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of people
  like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers, who,
  as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
  University of Chicago. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
  
   You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
drafted my
   post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
   coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
   Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits...
Everyone
   is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's
life.
   Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
   business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
   us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? Why aren't
   you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
   country is hiding? If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
   about and will lie to us as our future president?
   
   My post should have read:
   I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a
smear.
   The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
   poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
   Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be
president
   from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
   Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
   Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
   $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
   any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
   bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full
examination of
   this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers
is just
   a guy who lives in my neighborhood and in fact had a long term
   working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit
curious
   to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@  
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   [snip]
  
I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't
like to play provider roulette which many people do.
  
   HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows
   as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of
   the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series!
 
   eyepatch mode ON 
 
  I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch
  any American or British TV show I want to, from
  any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them
  all without ever having to see a single commercial.
  And I don't pay a penny for any of them.
 
  You guys are still talking about these pay cable
  and satellite services as if you need them.
 
   eyepatch mode OFF 
 
 
 Perhaps because we don't want to break the law?
 
 I do pay for what I use. It's really that simple.


A good point, if you have these shows available
TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for
1-2 years to be able to see them either on over-
priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player
to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish 
TV, dubbed.

I also live in a country in which downloading 
these things for private use is NOT against the
law. Technically, the only TV shows that you
could be prosecuted for downloading in the US
are the ones marked PREAIR, released before 
their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been
filed for downloading already-broadcast TV
shows.

Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen
the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi-
cation? I have. :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Vaj


On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:11 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


A good point, if you have these shows available
TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for
1-2 years to be able to see them either on over-
priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player
to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish
TV, dubbed.

I also live in a country in which downloading
these things for private use is NOT against the
law. Technically, the only TV shows that you
could be prosecuted for downloading in the US
are the ones marked PREAIR, released before
their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been
filed for downloading already-broadcast TV
shows.


That's interesting and it does make a certain amount of sense for  
programs broadcast 'over the airwaves'. It however doesn't make sense  
for cable or satellite.


Many people have been prosecuted for stealing cable.

I remember when I rented my first apartment years ago, I signed up  
for cable. Later the cable company came after me for cable theft. So  
I called them up: here all the other tenants had tapped into my cable  
and so the cable company came after me. And I was the ONLY one  
legally paying for it!




Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen
the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi-
cation? I have. :-)


Yes, I've seen all of them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: now: the absurdity of the idea of willling fewer initiations

2008-09-24 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Sep 22, 2008, at 8:27 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:

  That seems like a really honest assessment to me.
 
 
  Yup, me too, spot on...
 
  Besides, regular meditators are passing away faster than new ones
  are starting anyway

 That's a depressing thought.  I'd like to think people are
 simply finding more interesting things to do than
 actually checking out.  Hope I'm not kidding myself.

 Sal


It's certainly true in my area, and probably true elsewhere. It just
points up 'the absurdity of the idea of willling fewer initiations'. Is
the spiritual ecosystem so fragile that it can't even stand a
decreasing level of 'coherence'?


JohnY






[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@  
  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  [snip]
 
  I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't
  like to play provider roulette which many people do.
 
  HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows
  as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of
  the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series!
 
   eyepatch mode ON 
 
  I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch
  any American or British TV show I want to, from
  any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them
  all without ever having to see a single commercial.
  And I don't pay a penny for any of them.
 
  You guys are still talking about these pay cable
  and satellite services as if you need them.
 
   eyepatch mode OFF 
 
 
 Perhaps because we don't want to break the law?
 
 I do pay for what I use. It's really that simple.


Yes I agree. It's only money after all!

I have enjoyed The Wire so much - the price is of no consequence.
And if everyone worked a flanker and got it gratis, would such
programs ever get made? Enlightened self-interest I'd say.

(Is there not a parallel here with TMO? Is it better for the Knowledge
to be free and non-commercial to salve our petty, liberal consciences?
And only reach a handful of disciples...Or better to be mired in and
tainted by commercial realities, but thereby to reach 000,000's?)



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:49 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are
smarter than Americans

 

The bailout is yet another example of 
Desperate Housewives thinking. They can't
pay the credit card bills, so they're apply-
ing for out another credit card with an
additional 1.8 trillion dollar limit. They
will put it all on the new card and go back
to watching 'American Idol.'

You are like, so clueless. Everybody who's anybody knows that American Idol
doesn't start until January. The really hot show now is Dancing With The
Stars. And then there's the Caylee Anthony situation. Ohmygod! Have you been
missing that? Get with it old dude!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Peter



--- On Wed, 9/24/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are 
 smarter than Americans
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:44 AM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
  
   Even a very large group may not 
   be able to prevent particular inscidents due to
 irreversable carma. 
  
  Thanks Nabby, another one for my collection of lame
 excuses
  of why none of these technologies work.
 
 Get a checking. 
 Then perhaps, but only perhaps, will you understand how
 this technology 
 works.

Nabbby, calling you out, biatch! What does the above mean. Literally. How does 
meditating correctly allow one to understand the empirically unproven ME and 
how and why it works and how and why it doesn't work. Balls in your court. 
Remember, we're having a rational discussion. No metaphysical constructs. 




 
 
 
 
 
 To subscribe, send a message to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Or go to: 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
 and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Vaj


On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Richard M wrote:


Yes I agree. It's only money after all!

I have enjoyed The Wire so much - the price is of no consequence.
And if everyone worked a flanker and got it gratis, would such
programs ever get made? Enlightened self-interest I'd say.


Yes. I like contributing $$$ to things I enjoy. I support the arts! :-)


(Is there not a parallel here with TMO? Is it better for the Knowledge
to be free and non-commercial to salve our petty, liberal consciences?
And only reach a handful of disciples...Or better to be mired in and
tainted by commercial realities, but thereby to reach 000,000's?)


Honestly I don't seriously entertain anything about TM or the TMO at  
all anymore. It has been interesting to watch nature withdraw her  
support.


Such is impermanence's inevitable rusting of the can of the canned.  
As soon as they canned it, it was doomed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Richard M wrote:
 
  Yes I agree. It's only money after all!
 
  I have enjoyed The Wire so much - the price is of no consequence.
  And if everyone worked a flanker and got it gratis, would such
  programs ever get made? Enlightened self-interest I'd say.
 
 Yes. I like contributing $$$ to things I enjoy. I support the arts! :-)
 
  (Is there not a parallel here with TMO? Is it better for the Knowledge
  to be free and non-commercial to salve our petty, liberal consciences?
  And only reach a handful of disciples...Or better to be mired in and
  tainted by commercial realities, but thereby to reach 000,000's?)
 
 Honestly I don't seriously entertain anything about TM or the TMO at  
 all anymore. It has been interesting to watch nature withdraw her  
 support.

I think I realise that!

 Such is impermanence's inevitable rusting of the can of the canned.  
 As soon as they canned it, it was doomed.


That's pretty. But I don't quite share your extreme cynicism though. 

(The rusting seems to me to be just another nice, poetic way of
describing MMY's from-day-one assertion of inevitable knowledge loss).



[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Honestly I don't seriously entertain anything about TM or the TMO at  
 all anymore. 


Joke of the week !

98% of your posts are regarding the TMO.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Vaj


On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:55 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Honestly I don't seriously entertain anything about TM or the TMO at
all anymore.



Joke of the week !

98% of your posts are regarding the TMO.



Perhaps you missed the point because English is not your native tongue.

I don't consider TM or the TM org seriously. But there is some value  
in seeing how these orgs and teachings arise, exist for a while and  
then go away. There's also some benefit in seeing how distortion of  
teachings diminishes their longevity. I guess I just never expected  
it to happen so quickly!

[FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Susan










 
This is very intriguing to think about. Gives you a new perspective for sure. I 
like the part about the coast to coast block party!
 
Susan

 




 

I know some of you don't like political things, but in all fairness I think 
this is an eye opener
 
Make sure you vote in 
NOVEMBER.








  


Dear Congress and Mr President:



 



I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85 BILLION DOLLARS).

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in

a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 

bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a

We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.

So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it'll be there

Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks

who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company

that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of 
trickling out

a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one 
of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S 
Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it. 

Sell off its parts. 

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate. 

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. 

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! 

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion 

We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards, 

A Creative Guy  Citizen of the Republic.
 

 




  

Re: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Peter
Fuckin' A, man!! Tired of these financial people ripping all of us off. This is 
a great plan.

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:24 PM



















 
This is very intriguing to think about. Gives you a new perspective for sure. I 
like the part about the coast to coast block party!
 
Susan

 




 

I know some of you don't like political things, but in all fairness I think 
this is an eye opener
 
Make sure you vote in 
NOVEMBER








  


Dear Congress and Mr President:



 



I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85 BILLION DOLLARS).

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in

a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 

bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a

We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.

So
 let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis
 solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it'll be there

Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks

who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company

that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of 
trickling out

a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one 
of our candidates for
 President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S 
Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it. 

Sell off its parts. 

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate. 

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. 

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! 

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion 

We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

And
 remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards, 

A Creative Guy  Citizen of the Republic.
 

 






  




  

[FairfieldLife] 'Slacker Uprising' Now Belongs to You (Down/Load, Rise/Up!)

2008-09-24 Thread Susan


--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Friends, 
It's officially September 23rd and my new film, Slacker Uprising, is now 
premiering live at SlackerUprising.com! It is available for free as a gift from 
me to all of you. And you have my permission to share it or show it in any way 
you see fit. 


Watch it all: 
http://slackeruprising.com/download/location.php?utm_medium=downloadutm_source=31419310
 
At that link, there are five ways you can watch it free and without 
advertising: 

blip.tv is providing streaming right from slackeruprising.com, free of 
commercials and advertising.
Amazon Video on Demand will provide a higher resolution version of the above 
stream for people with lots of bandwidth. It will be available in a few hours.
iTunes will make it easy for you to download Slacker Uprising on your iTunes, 
iPod, or Apple TV, and view it there or transmit it to your television. This 
way, the film can be portable as well as for home viewing. This will be 
available soon.
Hypernia is providing bandwidth and servers to host MPEG4 and DivX versions of 
Slacker Uprising online, so you can burn a DVD or download the film to watch 
on your computer, XBOX, or PS3.
Lycos is providing free streaming of the film and an on-demand version.
Stream it, download it, burn it now. It's the first time a major feature-length 
film is being released for free on the internet. You can be part of this 
historic moment by logging on now! 
Enjoy!! 
Michael Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MichaelMoore.com
SlackerUprising.com 
P.S. Remember, we're doing something that's never been done, so I have no idea 
how it will all go! Don't give up if it seems to go slow (like with any 
streaming, give the downloading a head start before you hit play), and don't 
forget there are two places where you can actually download it to your hard 
drive and three ways to stream it. You can get to all of them at the link 
above. 
P.P.S. If you're not yet registered to vote, here's a good link: 
https://www.voteforchange.com/. There's less than two weeks for you to get 
registered, especially if you have moved since the last time you voted.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
 As for AIG - liquidate it. 
 
 Sell off its parts.

The fact that there are no buyers IS the problem.
 
 Sell off the real estate.

The fact that there are no buyers IS the problem.
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 This is very intriguing to think about. Gives you a new perspective
for sure. I like the part about the coast to coast block party!
  
 Susan
 
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
 I know some of you don't like political things, but in all fairness
I think this is an eye opener
  
 Make sure you vote in
NOVEMBER.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 Dear Congress and Mr President:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85
BILLION DOLLARS).
 
 Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in
 
 a We Deserve It Dividend.
 
 To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 
 
 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 
 
 Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
 
 and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
 
 So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals
$425,000.00.
 
 My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
 
 We Deserve It Dividend.
 
 Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.
 
 So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
 
 Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
 
 That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.
 
 But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
 
 A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.
 
 What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
 
 Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
 
 Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
 
 Put away money for college - it'll be there
 
 Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
 
 Buy a new car - create jobs
 
 Invest in the market - capital drives growth
 
 Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
 
 Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
 
 Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
 
 who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
 
 that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed
Forces.
 
 If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead
of trickling out
 
 a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being
proposed by one of our candidates for President.
 
 If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every
adult U S Citizen 18+!
 
 As for AIG - liquidate it. 
 
 Sell off its parts. 
 
 Let American General go back to being American General.
 
 Sell off the real estate. 
 
 Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. 
 
 Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
 
 Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
 
 But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! 
 
 How do you spell Economic Boom?
 
 I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion 
 
 We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in
Washington DC .
 
 And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
 $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
 
 Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
 
 Kindest personal regards, 
 
 A Creative Guy  Citizen of the Republic.
  
 
  





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@  
 wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

 [snip]

 
 I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't
 like to play provider roulette which many people do.
   
 HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows
 as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of
 the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series!
 
  eyepatch mode ON 

 I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch
 any American or British TV show I want to, from
 any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them
 all without ever having to see a single commercial.
 And I don't pay a penny for any of them.

 You guys are still talking about these pay cable
 and satellite services as if you need them.

  eyepatch mode OFF 
   
 Perhaps because we don't want to break the law?

 I do pay for what I use. It's really that simple.
 


 A good point, if you have these shows available
 TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for
 1-2 years to be able to see them either on over-
 priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player
 to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish 
 TV, dubbed.

 I also live in a country in which downloading 
 these things for private use is NOT against the
 law. Technically, the only TV shows that you
 could be prosecuted for downloading in the US
 are the ones marked PREAIR, released before 
 their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been
 filed for downloading already-broadcast TV
 shows.

 Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen
 the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi-
 cation? I have. :-)
Perhaps we're not that obsessed with seeing these things so soon.  Even 
though they don't have commercials I usually always watch these shows 
off the DVR than realtime even if I start it 20 minutes after the show 
has actually started.  That's the  whole value of having a DVR is 
watching when you want and being able to just skip over commercials.  
And more importantly in HD.   Do you have a way to watch the shows you 
download on your big screen?

Technically with the current US laws someone would have to file a 
complaint against a downloader.  So if a big studio sees their 
blockbuster that just opened in theaters being downloaded they may just 
try to catch someone to make a case of it.  However if in the process 
they see Joe Smo's Funky Features film up their they'll don't care.   
Joe Smo would have to go after them and Joe Smo probably doesn't care 
either as he's made his run and a few pirates aren't going to hurt him 
and actually might result in some extra sales.

There are a few instances where even if something is copyrighted you can 
get away with much like the one instance I mentioned above.  There are 
some small companies that get rights to Z-movies or even foreign films 
the big boys pass on.  These companies don't even waste money on copy 
protected DVDs which cost a little more to replicate and author.   They 
can even author the DVD (after spending a couple hundred bucks on the 
transfer if they had to) on a desktop PC with a cheap program.  They do 
their run maybe only 2000 copies and sell the majority of those to 
places like Netflix, BlockBuster and Hollywood Video as well as some of 
the big store chains like Fry's  that carry about everything.   Odds are 
if several months or a year or two later you can't find that DVD and 
call that company and they tell you they don't have any copies left 
they'll probably say if find it on the internet feel free to download 
it.  They're not going to do a limited run for a small market of customers.

There are companies like Video Source of Miami that scour the net and 
markets for films that have not been copyrighted in the US and will send 
you a one-off DVD copy for a reasonable price.  I got The Holy 
Mountain that way which was all cut up wrong because it was the 
director who posted the torrent files in a strategy to get Allen Klein 
who held the rights to release it commercially.  A year later I was able 
to purchase the film on DVD restored beautifully with a commentary by 
the director (where he admitted to the torrents).   The Fall BTW seems 
like a homage to The Holy Mountain.

And now we have Michael Moore and Weinstein's trying a strategy of 
making the film available for download free while offering the DVD for 
only $10.   Since the direct download failed I wound up doing a torrent 
on the MPEG-4 version which was muxed wrong for BluRay so am just 
finishing up the DivX torrent which will play with my Linkplayer 
upscaled to the HD set.

I remember when the Internet was emerging the software company I worked 
at declared it as a new method of distribution something which was 
lost on the backwoods mafia types (really, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Vaj

Now this is an economic stimulus package I can appreciate!

As long as you're not from Nigeria, just send me the check!

On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Susan wrote:





This is very intriguing to think about. Gives you a new perspective  
for sure. I like the part about the coast to coast block party!


Susan



I know some of you don't like political things, but in all fairness  
I think this is an eye opener


Make sure you vote in  
NOVEMBER.. 
..



Dear Congress and Mr President:


I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85  
BILLION DOLLARS).


Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in

a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000

bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals  
$425,000.00.


My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a

We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.

So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it'll be there

Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks

who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company

that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed  
Forces.


If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead  
of trickling out


a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being  
proposed by one of our candidates for President.


If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every  
adult U S Citizen 18+!


As for AIG - liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion

We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in  
Washington DC .


And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards,

A Creative Guy  Citizen of the Republic.











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

 On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:11 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 A good point, if you have these shows available
 TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for
 1-2 years to be able to see them either on over-
 priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player
 to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish
 TV, dubbed.

 I also live in a country in which downloading
 these things for private use is NOT against the
 law. Technically, the only TV shows that you
 could be prosecuted for downloading in the US
 are the ones marked PREAIR, released before
 their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been
 filed for downloading already-broadcast TV
 shows.

 That's interesting and it does make a certain amount of sense for 
 programs broadcast 'over the airwaves'. It however doesn't make sense 
 for cable or satellite.

 Many people have been prosecuted for stealing cable.

 I remember when I rented my first apartment years ago, I signed up for 
 cable. Later the cable company came after me for cable theft. So I 
 called them up: here all the other tenants had tapped into my cable 
 and so the cable company came after me. And I was the ONLY one legally 
 paying for it!
The networks want the FCC to allow them to copy protect the programs 
that go out over the air on HD.   Guess why they pop up those annoying 
banners during the shows?  To make the copies unpalatable but it makes 
the show unpalatable.  The dummies are shooting themselves in the foot.  
The FCC is saying NO so far to CP and it would make a lot of recently if 
not all current sets with both ATSC and QAM tuners obsolete.  Their 
shows are often so bland anyway I turned off The Mentalist after 15 
minutes and for some reason the DVR didn't record The Fringe which was 
about to fall off my list anyway.  So far it's been alleged that NBC has 
thrown in some things in the stream that makes Windows Media Center 
think the show is copy protected.  The EFF is going after them on that.

I'm noticing that DVDs are now coming with a symbol that says the disk 
is copy protected.  I makes it easy for me to spot a non copy protected 
disk and play it with my BluRay player which is a better player than my 
upscaling network player.  My set is 8 years old and thus does not have 
HDMI inputs.  BluRay will upscale a DVD that is not copy protected over 
component.  My networked DVD player upscales over component but is a 
funky implementation of DVD (the developers were more into network stuff 
which works good but couldn't even implement a DVD player up to the 
standards of a cheap one).
  


 Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen
 the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi-
 cation? I have. :-)

 Yes, I've seen all of them.
I think he means this upcoming season.


[FairfieldLife] Der Fuhrer Speaks to the Nation Tonight

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Don't miss the comedy show at 9 PM Eastern and 6 PM Pacific.  Herr Bush 
will probably be in his best Halloween style fear mode with every word 
engineered to stir emotions of the mindless.  Maybe I'll record it and 
post a Mystery Theater 3000 version on YouTube. :)

We know he's going to plead with us to bail out his rich (and soon not 
to be) buddies.  Tough shit Terrance, we get to sink your yacht.  As 
Thom Hartmann has been saying all morning he believe they didn't think 
this would actually get this critical until after the election possibly 
next spring.  Hehe, the joke's on them!!!



[FairfieldLife] Evolution and Politics, was (Racist may cost Obama the White House)

2008-09-24 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
Americans are recognizing that Obama is a phenomenon in 
American politics. If there are many racists in the 
Democratic 
Party, Obama wouldn't have gotten this far in the nominating 
process.

IMO, there's a surging consciousness in the USA for a change 
from the present Republican administration, and it just 
happens 
to be Obama who is the best one among the Democrats to 
challenge the Republicans.
   
   Whether he succeeds or fails.
   
   It's the clash of energies that is important.
  
  In other words, it's the fluctuation of the gunas, in vedic terms.
 
 No, not at all. Energy -- and the universe composed
 of it -- is far more interesting and complex than
 the dumbed-down triumverate of energies postulated
 by Vedic philosophers. 
 
 You're falling for the good/evil dualistic dichotomy.
 I'm talking about an energy signature which is neither
 good nor evil on either side, because 1) such simplis-
 tic distinctions don't exist, and because 2) all beings
 are a complex *mix* of energies of all sorts.

Well, we would have to wait until the spring of 2009 to find out 
about the truth of the energies you're talking about.  That's the 
time frame that the giant collider in Switzerland will be fixed to 
continue its research on subatomic particles.  But I'm not sure if 
the energies you are referring to can be verified by science.  IMO, 
they should be.



 It also has nothing to do with evolution and who
 is more evolved or any simplistic horseshit like 
 that.

Barry et al,

The Shrimad Bhagavatam mentions in many occasions that living 
entities are hung up on experiencing the senses that they are willing 
to take rebirth as different life forms on this earth or on other 
planets throughout the universe, or possibly in other universes.  In 
this context, evolution is infinitely relevant.


 It's just that Obama's energy mix is more intelli-
 gent than McCain's, by a long shot. That provides
 people with an opportunity to see which energy they 
 identify with more -- intelligence or idiocy. 
 
 The fact that the polls (even though they are being
 manipulated) are so close indicates that Americans 
 are torn on this subject.

Since most Americans are fairly well educated compared to world 
standard, one would think that this would be an easy choice.  Most 
people here in the USA would only understand the arguments when their 
loved ones are killed in some faroff countries, and when their 
pockets are burned by layoffs and loss of savings/investments due to 
an economic downturn, such as the current financial crisis in Wall 
Street.


  
  Let's find out who they are by the response that you get.
 
 You mean like a homosexual calling a straight guy a homo-
 sexual and thinking that it's an insult?  :-)
 
 THAT is what I'm talking about with regard to the clash
 of energies. It's not a good vs. evil thang; it's an
 intelligence vs. stupidity thang. No one who is the
 least bit intelligent (or sane) is going to go around 
 insulting other people by insinuating that they're 
 *just like them*.

Humans are an odd lot.  Anything can happen.  There are priests who 
enter the service of the church/ashram and preach about the accepted 
doctrines.  Yet at the same time, some of these priests molest 
children and have sex with their parishioners.  








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote:
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:49 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are
 smarter than Americans

  

 The bailout is yet another example of 
 Desperate Housewives thinking. They can't
 pay the credit card bills, so they're apply-
 ing for out another credit card with an
 additional 1.8 trillion dollar limit. They
 will put it all on the new card and go back
 to watching 'American Idol.'

 You are like, so clueless. Everybody who's anybody knows that American Idol
 doesn't start until January. The really hot show now is Dancing With The
 Stars. And then there's the Caylee Anthony situation. Ohmygod! Have you been
 missing that? Get with it old dude!
Huh?  I though the must seewas supposed to be NFL football.   Don't 
you know it is your patriotic duty to be sitting before your TV when 
those games run preferably drinking the beers and eating the carbs 
advertised?  Don't you know if you don't Blackwater will drop by your 
house and send you on a no return trip to Bulgaria?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Vaj


On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


The networks want the FCC to allow them to copy protect the programs
that go out over the air on HD.   Guess why they pop up those annoying
banners during the shows?  To make the copies unpalatable but it makes
the show unpalatable.  The dummies are shooting themselves in the  
foot.
The FCC is saying NO so far to CP and it would make a lot of  
recently if

not all current sets with both ATSC and QAM tuners obsolete.  Their
shows are often so bland anyway I turned off The Mentalist after 15
minutes and for some reason the DVR didn't record The Fringe  
which was
about to fall off my list anyway.  So far it's been alleged that  
NBC has

thrown in some things in the stream that makes Windows Media Center
think the show is copy protected.  The EFF is going after them on  
that.


I'm noticing that DVDs are now coming with a symbol that says the disk
is copy protected.  I makes it easy for me to spot a non copy  
protected
disk and play it with my BluRay player which is a better player  
than my
upscaling network player.  My set is 8 years old and thus does not  
have
HDMI inputs.  BluRay will upscale a DVD that is not copy protected  
over

component.  My networked DVD player upscales over component but is a
funky implementation of DVD (the developers were more into network  
stuff

which works good but couldn't even implement a DVD player up to the
standards of a cheap one).



It used to be when you rented a movie on TiVo via Directv, you could  
keep the movie for as long as you wanted. Now I see they  
automatically delete themselves after 30 days! However I see there's  
still no problem running them through my DVD recorder and just making  
a copy. Similarly movies rented on the iTunes store are good for a 30  
day period, but once you start playing them they self-delete after 24  
hours passes. This seems to be the new trend.





[FairfieldLife] Re: a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 This is very intriguing to think about. Gives you a new perspective 
for sure. I like the part about the coast to coast block party!
  
 Susan
 

Yeah, great idea!  But how do we know you're not a scam?  If you ask 
for our bank accounts then we'd know you're just like those Wall 
Street con-artists.




 
 
 
 
  
 
 I know some of you don't like political things, but in all fairness 
I think this is an eye opener
  
 Make sure you vote in 
NOVEMBER..
...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 Dear Congress and Mr President:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85 
BILLION DOLLARS).
 
 Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in
 
 a We Deserve It Dividend.
 
 To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 
 
 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 
 
 Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
 
 and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
 
 So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals 
$425,000.00.
 
 My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
 
 We Deserve It Dividend.
 
 Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.
 
 So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
 
 Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
 
 That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.
 
 But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
 
 A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.
 
 What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
 
 Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
 
 Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
 
 Put away money for college - it'll be there
 
 Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
 
 Buy a new car - create jobs
 
 Invest in the market - capital drives growth
 
 Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
 
 Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
 
 Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
 
 who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
 
 that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed 
Forces.
 
 If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead 
of trickling out
 
 a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being 
proposed by one of our candidates for President.
 
 If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every 
adult U S Citizen 18+!
 
 As for AIG - liquidate it. 
 
 Sell off its parts. 
 
 Let American General go back to being American General.
 
 Sell off the real estate. 
 
 Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. 
 
 Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
 
 Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
 
 But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! 
 
 How do you spell Economic Boom?
 
 I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 
Billion 
 
 We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in 
Washington DC .
 
 And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion 
because
 $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
 
 Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
 
 Kindest personal regards, 
 
 A Creative Guy  Citizen of the Republic.
  
 
  





RE: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:44 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

 


I think the math is wrong. If you divide 200 million into 85 billion, don't
you get 425? Not 425,000. Do it the other way around: 425 x 200,000,000 =
85,000,000,000

 


 


I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85 BILLION
DOLLARS).

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in

a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 

bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.




 

 

 





 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-24 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rick Archer wrote:
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
  Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:49 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which 
Indians are
  smarter than Americans
 
   
 
  The bailout is yet another example of 
  Desperate Housewives thinking. They can't
  pay the credit card bills, so they're apply-
  ing for out another credit card with an
  additional 1.8 trillion dollar limit. They
  will put it all on the new card and go back
  to watching 'American Idol.'
 
  You are like, so clueless. Everybody who's anybody knows that 
American Idol
  doesn't start until January. The really hot show now is Dancing 
With The
  Stars. And then there's the Caylee Anthony situation. Ohmygod! 
Have you been
  missing that? Get with it old dude!
 Huh?  I though the must seewas supposed to be NFL football.   
Don't 
 you know it is your patriotic duty to be sitting before your TV 
when 
 those games run preferably drinking the beers and eating the carbs 
 advertised?  Don't you know if you don't Blackwater will drop by 
your 
 house and send you on a no return trip to Bulgaria?


I'm enjoying the games again since the 49ers have won two games in a 
row.  Also, I'm curious about the drama with the Raiders coach and Al 
Davis, the owner.  If Kiffen, the coach, is not fired any time soon, 
then we'll know that Davis is a demoniac who loves to torture people. 

From the pictures I've seen on the papers, Kiffen is suffering from 
acute stress.  If he stays on the job, we'll see his hair turn grey 
before our own eyes.







[FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen
 the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi-
 cation? I have. :-)

According to the Showtime site, the season 3 premiere of Dexter is
Sept. 28, yet the BitTorrent trackers already have it available. How
is that possible if the episode hasn't even aired yet?



[FairfieldLife] Wuus McCain wants Debate Delayed

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Because the old codger will get his ass whooped by Obama.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872907/

What next?  Will he want the election postponed?  John McCain is truly 
insane.

People, the time for revolution is NOW!!!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen
 the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi-
 cation? I have. :-)
 

 According to the Showtime site, the season 3 premiere of Dexter is
 Sept. 28, yet the BitTorrent trackers already have it available. How
 is that possible if the episode hasn't even aired yet?
Screeners sent to reviewers (whoever they are - wink).  A friend that 
owned a video rental place used to give loan me screeners of films to be 
released on DVD for my opinion.  These are sent out to get the owners to 
order the title.  Screeners often have messages displayed every so once 
in a while or have the time codes displayed which makes for a bad 
looking copy. 

To some extent the networks aren't too concerned about the downrezzed 
(Flash, WMV) versions and in fact many are making some of those 
available to view for free plus even putting them on the DVDs they ship 
as digital versions.  They don't like the DVD quality and HD versions.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Wuus McCain wants Debate Delayed

2008-09-24 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Because the old codger will get his ass whooped by Obama.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872907/

What next?  Will he want the election postponed?  John McCain is  
truly insane.


Yeah, well, who needs elections anyhow?  What
are you, a communist?


People, the time for revolution is NOW!!!


Where do we meet?

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Video: If I were a terrorist

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
I think someone here posted a YouTube link to this video before but I 
had to crack up when I played it on this site as it was preceded by an 
ad from ... Walmart!  :-D
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=11649




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Peter
Reverse auction: Keep on lowering the price until its bought. Somebody will buy 
it, but not at anywhere close to its original value.


--- On Wed, 9/24/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: a unique bail out proposal
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:34 PM
  As for AIG - liquidate it. 
  
  Sell off its parts.
 
 The fact that there are no buyers IS the problem.
  
  Sell off the real estate.
 
 The fact that there are no buyers IS the problem.
  
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  This is very intriguing to think about. Gives you a
 new perspective
 for sure. I like the part about the coast to coast block
 party!
   
  Susan
  
   
  
  
  
  
   
  
  I know some of you don't like political things,
 but in all fairness
 I think this is an eye opener
   
  Make sure you vote in
 NOVEMBER.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Dear Congress and Mr President:
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of
 AIG. (That's 85
 BILLION DOLLARS).
  
  Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000
 to America in
  
  a We Deserve It Dividend.
  
  To make the math simple, let's assume there are
 200,000,000 
  
  bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 
  
  Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every
 man, woman
  
  and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at
 adults 18 and up..
  
  So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that
 equals
 $425,000.00.
  
  My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
  
  We Deserve It Dividend.
  
  Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.
  
  So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
  
  Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
  
  That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.
  
  But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in
 their pocket.
  
  A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.
  
  What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in
 your family?
  
  Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
  
  Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
  
  Put away money for college - it'll be there
  
  Save in a bank - create money to loan to
 entrepreneurs.
  
  Buy a new car - create jobs
  
  Invest in the market - capital drives growth
  
  Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health
 care improves
  
  Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
  
  Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+
 including the folks
  
  who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other
 company
  
  that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving
 in our Armed
 Forces.
  
  If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's
 really do it...instead
 of trickling out
  
  a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic
 incentive that is being
 proposed by one of our candidates for President.
  
  If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout,
 let's bail out every
 adult U S Citizen 18+!
  
  As for AIG - liquidate it. 
  
  Sell off its parts. 
  
  Let American General go back to being American
 General.
  
  Sell off the real estate. 
  
  Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and
 clean it up. 
  
  Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG
 doesn't.
  
  Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never
 work.'
  
  But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! 
  
  How do you spell Economic Boom?
  
  I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use
 the $85 Billion 
  
  We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at
 AIG or in
 Washington DC .
  
  And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5
 Billion because
  $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle
 Sam.
  
  Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my
 chest.
  
  Kindest personal regards, 
  
  A Creative Guy  Citizen of the Republic.
   
  
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Tardigrades survive in outer space!

2008-09-24 Thread yifuxero
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/08/water-bears-survive.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
$425 is correct.  Otherwise how would those estimates based on the US 
population say that the $700 billion is $2300 per person.  Also the 
actual number of tax returns in 2003 was around 131 million.  Use that 
number as it probably varies only a little.

The US government's fiscal year ends September 30th.  They will go 
bankrupt at that point.  The elite are running scared because if 
congress delays the bailout beyond that point the elite is screwed.  I 
believe congress knows this and it is time for the blowback.  The 
elite didn't believe this would take place until after the election.  
Just karma, I say.

Rick Archer wrote:
  

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Vaj
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:44 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

  


 I think the math is wrong. If you divide 200 million into 85 billion, don't
 you get 425? Not 425,000. Do it the other way around: 425 x 200,000,000 =
 85,000,000,000

  


  


 I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG. (That's 85 BILLION
 DOLLARS).

 Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in

 a We Deserve It Dividend.

 To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 

 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. 

 Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

 and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

 So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.




  

  

  





  

  


   



[FairfieldLife] Re: a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Reverse auction: Keep on lowering the price until its bought.
Somebody will buy it, but not at anywhere close to its original value.
 


AIG is solvent and a good portion of its business has value. For
example, the insurance part of its business is doing fine.  That is
why the bailout of AIG will probably work.  It will be able to sell
off the good stuff over the next two years.  

Lehman, in contrast, was insolvent.  A bailout made no sense whatsoever. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Wuus McCain wants Debate Delayed

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Because the old codger will get his ass whooped by Obama.
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872907/
 
 What next?  Will he want the election postponed?  John McCain is truly 
 insane.
 
 People, the time for revolution is NOW!!!



86% of Americans say debate should take place as scheduled

Immediately after John McCain's announcement 3 pm ET today, Wednesday
09/24/08, that he was suspending his campaign and seeking to postpone
Friday's schedule presidential debate, SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000
adults nationwide. Key findings:

A majority of Americans say the debate should be held. Just 10% say
the debate should be postponed. A sizable percentage of Americans,
36%, think the focus of the debate should be modified to focus more on
the economy. 3 of 4 Americans say the presidential campaign should
continue. Just 14% say the presidential campaign should be suspended.
If Friday's debate does not take place 46%, of Americans say that
would be bad for America. 

Survey USA: http://tinyurl.com/3uq7sb







[FairfieldLife] LETTERMAN MOCKS MCCAIN CANCELLATION

2008-09-24 Thread Robert

Wed Sep 24 2008 17:41:58 ET

David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell him he had 
to rush back to DC to deal with the economy. 

Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in fact just 
down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even cut over to the 
live video of the interview, and said, Hey Senator, can I give you a ride 
home? 

Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, You don't suspend your campaign. This 
doesn't smell right. This isn't the way a tested hero behaves. And he joked: 
I think someone's putting something in his metamucil. 

He can't run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your 
second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she? 

What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being 
president? We've got a guy like that now! 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] a unique bail out proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:
 Now this is an economic stimulus package I can appreciate!

 As long as you're not from Nigeria, just send me the check!

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Yours Faithfully,
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Minister of Treasury
Department of the Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20220




[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote:
  
   Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
   is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big 
mistake.
 
 
 
  Why?
 
 
 Your kidding. But then you live in a country where 80 people
 are shot dead every day so maybe that really needs a reply: 
 This guy was unlikely to storm into his old school and strangle 
 ten people. Just as the English mass-murderers at Dunblane and 
 Hungerford wouldn't have become so notorious if they didn't have
 an arsenal of weapons under the bed. Madness.


*

Half of U.S. gun deaths are suicides, who would have picked another 
means if a gun was unavailable, so gun deaths are about 40 a day 
compared to about 110/day from traffic accidents:

http://daily.iflove.com/world/2008-07/01/content_6809520.htm

Mass murderers can readily do their thing with knives in places where 
guns are not available, like the guy in Tokyo who killed 7:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/09/world/fg-stab9



[FairfieldLife] Re: LETTERMAN MOCKS MCCAIN CANCELLATION

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
McCain's just trying to pull a stunt, but I think he's made a big
blunder. After all, this is a guy who admitted that he doesn't know
much about the economy. What use is he going to be? Like Bush, he'll
just get in the way. Nice gift for Obama though. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Wed Sep 24 2008 17:41:58 ET
 
 David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell
him he had to rush back to DC to deal with the economy. 
 
 Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in
fact just down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even
cut over to the live video of the interview, and said, Hey Senator,
can I give you a ride home? 
 
 Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, You don't suspend your
campaign. This doesn't smell right. This isn't the way a tested hero
behaves. And he joked: I think someone's putting something in his
metamucil. 
 
 He can't run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine,
put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she? 
 
 What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough?
Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wuus McCain wants Debate Delayed

2008-09-24 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 24, 2008, at 4:42 PM, do.rflex wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Because the old codger will get his ass whooped by Obama.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872907/

What next?  Will he want the election postponed?  John McCain is  
truly

insane.

People, the time for revolution is NOW!!!




86% of Americans say debate should take place as scheduled

Immediately after John McCain's announcement 3 pm ET today, Wednesday
09/24/08, that he was suspending his campaign and seeking to postpone
Friday's schedule presidential debate, SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000
adults nationwide. Key findings:

A majority of Americans say the debate should be held. Just 10% say
the debate should be postponed. A sizable percentage of Americans,
36%, think the focus of the debate should be modified to focus more on
the economy. 3 of 4 Americans say the presidential campaign should
continue. Just 14% say the presidential campaign should be suspended.
If Friday's debate does not take place 46%, of Americans say that
would be bad for America.

Survey USA: http://tinyurl.com/3uq7sb


Now they want to essentially cancel the VP debate as well:

McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate

http://tinyurl.com/3qeps9

Why don't we just cancel the Republican Party?

Would anyone even notice?

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Wuus McCain wants Debate Delayed

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
Perhaps they've finally realized the unfathomable depths of their
candidate's ignorance, that no amount of last-minute cramming can
paper over. I was amused today to read of how Sarah is dodging
reporters, refusing to give a press conference, yet their campaign did
issue a full accounting of what ice cream flavors she and her kids
favored at a campaign stop in Florida. If you made a movie about this,
no one would believe it. I've stopped searching for bikini pics of
Sarah; the sad truth is that she is naked wherever she goes, and no
amount of campaign spin can cover her up. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 
 Now they want to essentially cancel the VP debate as well:
 
 McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3qeps9
 
 Why don't we just cancel the Republican Party?
 
 Would anyone even notice?
 
 Sal





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