[FairfieldLife] Re: Joe Camel Obama'
(snip) Life is Bliss, Yes? Life is a pack of Luckies... (snip) My father was in the war; spent most of the time, in 'Patton's Army, in what would be now, The Czech Republic...It's cold there, sleeping outside in the winter; sometimes, he would wake up with three ft. of snow, on top of him, but it kept him war...the nazi's came up with all kinds of ways to terror-fie the oppostion army; ~This knight, was different, it felt dark and forbodding... It was the third nite of the New German Weapon, which lit up the sky, like it was bright daylite, and made a terror-fieing sound like a scarey wistleing noise that would keep you from sleeping; And it was cold, with the wind blowing, snowing and so cold. Just as you would fall asleep, the Nazis would set them off. The wistling sound...some guys couldn't take it anymore, so they would just stand up... We we're told in 'Basic', to always remain down, Especially, when danger is about. So, standing up, was to commit suicide. Some guys chose to stand up. But, I didn't my Dad, said... My Dad won a purple heart, a bronze star, and a sharp shooters medal. Without my Dad, and Americans like my Dad, The Germans would have won the war. Thanks Dad. Love, MEERobert J. BTW... There have been other President's of the UNited States, Who have smoked... As well as Gerenamo and Sitting Bull. They include, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, William Jefferson Clinton, FDR, and the Englishman of Great Character, Winston Churchill. Chow! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Joe Camel Obama'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Life is Bliss, Yes? Life is a pack of Luckies... (sniP) Oh, I forgot, that they used to hand out the 'Luckies'... To all the troops, over there... One of the brief breaks, in the noise of war. PTSD... The real deal will come, when this war winds down, And all the guys, who have been, over there... In Babylon, come back to the 'STates... OMG...what then...there just boys and girls... Torture, and stuff we can't even imagine... Such are the fruits, Of WAr... What is it good FOR? R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dow Drops 800 Points
On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:07 PM, gullible fool wrote: Someone had an interesting explanation on CNBC. He said concerned mutual fund holders wanted out over the weekend and that caused the big mutual fund companies like Fidelity to send in huge sell orders first thing Monday morning to satisfy these customer requests. And here I was sure it was because they weren't living in SV homes... Late in the day, all that selling was over, at which point the lull brought in some buyers. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But thanks for bringing it up because it emphasizes my point: global warming is all conjecture into the future and no one knows what the hell will happen Not true, the computer models of our climate predict increasing heat and changing weather patterns. They have been tested to be accurate. A volcano in the 1990's gave just the sort of change in atmospheric polution that the models need to work with, they made a prediction of how it would affect the climate and it was borne out. The models are good, therefore we DO know what will happen, just not the full extent or the exact time. But it's all happening faster than expected with arctic ice thinning and retreating faster than expected, the permafrost is melting too. All predicted to be the among the first signs of a catastrophic change. In related news, Fairbanks Alaska had the coldest start to winter in 16 years... Just the sort of thing we'd expect funnily enough..
[FairfieldLife] Hamster attack warning!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/oct/07/children.health.pets (Only posted cos the picture is so cute)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 24-hour global air traffic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: *Exceedingly* neat simulation. Among other things, watch the stream of traffic from the U.S. to Europe change direction. Mesmerizing. I watched it four times. Er, it's even more mesmerizing if you can actually watch the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XBwjQsOEeg No wonder the air is so brown.
[FairfieldLife] 'Pull' $$$ 'Out', says, Market Guru, Kramer'
Jim Cramer: Time to get out of the stock market
Financial guru warns that investments could lose 20 percent of their value
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Bullish investors should turn into shrinking violets as the stock market
continues its shocking downward spiral, CNBC’s “Mad Money” host Jim Cramer told
Ann Curry on TODAY Monday.
In what Curry called a “dramatic statement,” Cramer emphatically urged any
investor who has money they may need in the next five years tied to stocks to
pull their dough out.
“I thought about this all weekend,” Cramer told Curry. “I do not want to say
these things on TV.
“Whatever money you may need for the next five years, please take it out of the
stock market right now, this week. I do not believe that you should risk those
assets in the stock market right now.”
While the animated Cramer is known for telling investors the best prospects for
earning money on the stock market, he’s now saying retreat is the best position
in the face of some of the worst financial news in decades. The bank lending
default crisis that put financial firms around the country on the brink of
collapse could bring “as much as a 20 percent decrease in the stock market,”
Cramer predicted.
He noted that the world’s markets are nosing downward in the face of the U.S.
fiscal trauma.
“One thing is certain — they are, in Europe, behind us,” Cramer told Curry.
“We’ve experienced more pain than they have, we are surprised at their pain, we
didn’t know how bad off they were.”
He called the U.S. government’s $700 billion bailout plan, which includes
raising the insured rate on bank deposits from $100,000 to $250,000, as a “good
one,” assuring bank depositors: “Your money is safe.”
But he warned that the same may not be true for stock market investors.
“I don’t care where stocks have been, I care where they’re going, and I don’t
want people to get hurt in the market,” Cramer told Curry. “I’m worried about
unemployment, I’m worried about purchases that you may need. I can’t have you
at risk in the stock market.”
Still, those with the assets — and the stomach — to ride out the stock market’s
ups and down over a five-year period might be best served by holding their nose
and holding onto their stocks.
“I think what you have to do, if you can withstand it, is just ride it out,”
Cramer said.
Cramer’s gloomy scenario came from calculating individual Dow stocks and
estimating how far they might yet fall, he told Curry. And companies’
third-quarter earning reports, due this week, aren’t going to be music to
investors’ ears.
“I think the previous quarter, the one we’re now hearing from, was a terrible
quarter — but it will look good versus the coming quarter,” Cramer warned.
[FairfieldLife] Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
McCain is not too bright, but sometimes manages to hide this fact. Sarah Palin is dumber than a bucket of hammers, and can't hide that fact no matter what she does. When McCain realizes that he's lost, and that his *only* chance is to go all negative all the time, he's too cowardly to do much of the negative smear- ing himself. Instead, he brings in Sarah Palin to sling the mud for him, because she's too dumb to realize that it IS mud, and that all she's spouting is desperate, angry, racist bullshit. Meanwhile, back here on FFL, we've got two posters whose only interest in this political campaign seems to be that it provides them a way to focus the anger that is the essential core of their lives onto someone they hate. In both cases, the person they hate is Obama, because he committed the unpar- donable sin of beating the pants off the candidate they had a crush on. *Ever since that happened*, both of these women have become essentially *unhinged*, crazy as loons. Even former supporters here of one of them have noticed and commented on it. But isn't it fascinating that these two angry harpies managed to work out a tag-team act that is *remarkably* like the McCain/ Palin tag-team act? Judy can barely hide the hatred she feels for Obama, but she manages to try, because she's so cowardly and afraid of damaging her supposed credibility here that she's afraid to come out and say what she really thinks. So she was ecstatic when Raunchydog -- dumber than a bucket of hammers herself, but just as driven by hatred of Obama as Judy is -- arrived on the scene. Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and post the smears that Judy would otherwise have to post herself (and in fact, did post herself, before Raunchydog appeared on the scene to do it for her). Macrocosm/microcosm. As above, so below. On a national level, one candidate who has nothing but fear and ignorance to sell giving the everyday dirty work of smearing the people he wants to smear to his tag-team partner, because she's too stupid to realize that's what he's doing. If, after the election, anyone takes the fall and is remembered for being able to do nothing but spout lies and venom, it'll be stupid Sarah, not coward John McCain. On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Why? Because she wants to be posting the same smears, but is too much of a coward to do it herself. And besides, she's got this dumb bitch of a sidekick to do it for her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Senate Statement on the Economy
(snip) Ya know, that Hillary is so good with all those facts and figures... She's a real cruncher of the details...and since the devil is in the details, as they say, it's good to have Hillary where she belongs: On the Senate Floor... Since Teddy got sick, the Lion of the Senate, as he's called, Hillary will act, as the Wild Boar of the Senate...so don't mess with her. Ya, know what I mean? Just get out of her way... R.g. Anglachel's Journal Sunday, October 05, 2008 Hillary's Senate Floor Statement on the Hanky Panky http://tinyurl.com/4gousj ...What becomes clear in the statement is that there is at least one Democrat in the Senate who is thinking extremely concretely about how to reform the financial system from top to bottom. She opens with some straightforwardly constituent-oriented explanation for her vote: New York is the nation's financial center and is going to get the stuffing beaten out of it unless things can be stabilized. She doesn't sugar coat it... http://tinyurl.com/4qqk3a Senator Clinton: Thank you Mr. President. Thank you very much, and I appreciate the extraordinary work that has been done with respect to the rescue package, led in a bipartisan fashion which has certainly produced significant changes in the original request that came to the Congress from the Treasury Department. And tonight we will vote on legislation none of us wish we were considering and none of us can afford to see fail. The costs of inaction are far too great. We are already seeing the consequences of a freezing credit market that will only worsen. I hear across my state of New York, small businesses are struggling to find affordable loans to keep their doors open and their inventory stocked. Even larger businesses are being pushed to the breaking point throughout the country, the impact of this credit crisis is beginning to be felt, with students who are seeing the sources of student loans drying up, interest rates on car payments rising, families who had saved up and acted responsibly seeing higher mortgage rates, shrinking their dream of homeownership. Our economy runs on credit, and underlying that credit is trust. Both the credit and the trust is running out. Essentially what we are doing here in an intangible way is restoring trust and confidence in a very tangible way: helping to restore credit. Banks will refuse to lend to businesses and even to one another. Investors continue to withdraw into the safest if investments, treasury bills, even cash. Tens of thousands of jobs in New York have been lost and a study this morning projected that New York alone would lose at least 120,000 jobs. Now I think we are here in some respects because we failed to tackle a home mortgage crisis, and now we are facing a market crisis. If we fail to tackle the market crisis, we risk an even deeper economic crisis. I don't think any of us want to see irresponsibility on Wall Street compounded by ineffectiveness in Washington. That's why we must act, even as we do so with regret and reservations, because we have little choice. The proposal we are considering is far from perfect, but it is a far cry from the original plan sent over by the Treasury Department that installed virtually unlimited powers in the hands of the Treasury Secretary. As I said when we first examined that original three-page proposal, we needed a plan that included checks and balances, not a blank check. And thanks to the leadership here in the Senate and in the House, we have negotiated through the Congress, on a bipartisan basis, a better alternative that installs taxpayer protections, asserts oversight, and maintains greater accountability. As is the case very often in effective compromises, no one is happy. But we cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good, or in this case, the enemy of what's necessary. But as we vote for this proposal tonight, we must do so considering what steps we will take next. On the floor at this moment are three of the leaders who shaped this, under the very able leadership of Chairman Dodd, and the chief Republican negotiator, Senator Gregg, and of course the Chairman of the Finance Committee, Chairman Baucus. But I think we all recognize that this is not the end but the beginning of what we must do. And I believe there are three big goals that we will have to address even after we pass the Rescue Package tonight here in the Senate and send it over to the House. First, we must address the home mortgage crisis. For two years, I and others have called for action as wave after wave of defaults and foreclosures crashed against communities and the broader economy. We are not yet through the woods. Millions of mortgages are underwater or under specter of adjustable rates set to rise. I am proposing what we're calling The Homeowners Mortgage Enterprise, an acronym obviously spelling HOME, to rewrite mortgages and
[FairfieldLife] The only thing Obama has to do to win the debate
It's really simple -- call America's attention to the thing that several posters here and many pundits in the press mentioned after the first debate, John McCain's inability to look at him. Obama should, at some appropriate point in the debate, turn to McCain and say, John...I can't help but notice that you haven't looked at me once during this debate. Why is that? Are you *afraid* to look me in the eye and say the things you are saying about me? McCain's advisors are going to be telling him NOT to repeat the obvious gaffe from the first debate, and to look directly at Obama when he is supposedly talking to him. But it's my bet that he won't be able to. His aversion to and fear of Obama -- as someone who is beating him without appearing to be breaking a sweat, as someone whose popularity has been largely unaffected by the worst smears McCain can have his henchmen and lackeys throw at him, and, essentially, as (in McCain's mind) an uppity nigger who has no place in white man's politics -- is so strong that I don't think he CAN look Obama directly in the eye. If Obama calls him on this, and then follows up with, John...if you can't look your opponent in a simple Presidential debate in the eye, what are you going to do when you're eye to eye with Putin, or with the terrorists you're trying your best to make Americans so afraid of? Are you going to stand there and fidget and look the other way, the way you're doing now? Obama could then end by looking into the camera and saying, If you want a President who is not only afraid to discuss problems and look them in the eye, but is afraid to even look his opponent in a political debate in the eye, then John McCain is your man. If you want a President who doesn't act like a terrified little girl, vote for me. It's NOT a smear; it's the truth. You all saw it in the last debate. My bet is that you'll see the same thing in this debate. If McCain is that stupid, and Obama calls him on it, everyone in America will see that it IS the truth. It's the simplest and fastest way to cut through the bullshit and expose the man behind the curtain. And it's a way of doing it *without* having to go negative himself. Obama will just be pointing out the truth about John McCain, on camera, so that it will become obvious to anyone watching. And even the dumbest redneck isn't going to vote for a guy too terrified to look another man in the eye.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Well, you better get busy learning this stuff, Spare Egg, because from what you've told us about yourself, your weight, and your health, you've probably only got 3 or 4 years left... Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Good news all around, and my best wishes to you in this new program. When you get to 'normal,' let me know how it feels, eh? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hannity�s Series: Barack Obama And The History of Radicalism, Videos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hannity's Series: Barack Obama And The History of Radicalism, Videos Posted on October 6, 2008 by Uppity Woman http://tinyurl.com/4ssmkj ...the entire Hannity Series on Barack Obama. All parts are here... These are all the things that MSNBC, CNN, NY Times and others who are part of Obama's PRAVDA had deliberately ignored or skimmed over. If you do NOTHING between now and election day, see to it that others see this series. It may be the only chance they ever get to learn what we all know about this hoax of a candidate and what runs through his head. As Obama fluffs off these associations, ask others how many terrorists and radicals THEY have just happened to encounter in their lifetimes and then ask them how it could possibly be a coincidence that Barack Obama is a magnet for them. http://tinyurl.com/4ssmkj Let me guess, you're one of those progressives who listens to Fox News because they are fair and balanced... Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
For the record, the way the Obama campaign has used race and gender to its advantage is one of the main reasons I don't support Obama. So raunchydog and I are in agreement on this one. It's the hypocrisy, stupid. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's unfair? Haven't you noticed that playing the race card is at the heart of Obama's campaign strategy? Many have written about it. Google obama plays race card Here's one of the early articles: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt Obama's lackeys in the media now push the meme that if he loses it's because of race. Isn't this playing the race card? You have no problem objecting to what you think is unfair to Obama in this article but you ignore the fact this article is about unfairness to women. Figures. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: This is so unfair!! Obama and his lackeys have dragged the race into the mud. Oh look, there's that word again, race.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain�s spe ech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico
On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:34 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John McCain's speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico, is one of the best speeches. http://tinyurl.com/4gwk98 Do you ever check with any fact-checking organization before you refer to something as one of the best speeches? Supposedly it was just filled to the brim with coded racist invective... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
On Oct 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Good news all around, and my best wishes to you in this new program. When you get to 'normal,' let me know how it feels, eh? :-) I was just going to say, normal? What the hell is that, anyway? I also can't wait to hear the report when spare gets there... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bucket of hammers always has more fun than the nail. Judy's intellect is as sharp as a tack and she nails Barry every time. Love it. Thanks, but you got your metaphors a bit mixed there, raunchydog. Am I the bucket of hammers, or the tack? Because I sure don't think Barry's having anywhere near the degree of fun I am. Actually you don't have to be sharp as a tack to nail Barry. He has a perfectly good mind, but he's one of the laziest, sloppiest thinkers I've ever encountered. My sense of him has always been that he's *afraid* to use his intellect; if he doesn't make an effort, he can't fail. His whole life, it seems, has been about protecting himself from the risk of failure, and as a result he never really succeeds, either. You always hope that one day he's going to wake up and realize what a phony he's been. At the same time, you kind of wince, because it'll be such an incredibly painful experience. But it's his only chance to become real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Some of what raunchydog has posted are smears, some aren't. Note that Barry hasn't attempted to address any of what he claims are dishonest smears. Obama has more than enough other defenders on this forum, however. Barry, of course, is so butt-ignorant of the facts about any of the candidates that he falls flat on his face whenever he attempts even to attack McCain and Palin, as I've repeatedly shown. He doesn't even *try* to defend Obama except by attacking personally those who don't support him, as in this post. And as is standard with Barry, he can't get his attacks on us right either (see below). Barry's *especially* pissed off because when he denounced those of us who were promoting the bailout as FEAR-mongers, I posted an excerpt from an Obama speech in which Obama himself did his very best to convince Americans the economic crisis was DANGEROUS and that a LONG AND PAINFUL RECESSION would be the result of not passing the bailout bill. And, of course, not long after raunchydog arrived on the scene, I made it VERY clear that some of what she was posting were smears that I did not agree with, and that we had very different reasons for disliking Obama. But Barry has conveniently forgotten all about that post. Here it is, #189670: - [raunchydog wrote:] Chew on these links for a while, give me your best shot and let the fur fly. I'd like to dissociate myself from most of these; they don't represent *my* reasons for disliking Obama, except for the smear tactics of him and his followers. I'm inclined to think some of the above are smears of *him*, however; he's neither a Marxist nor an anti-Semite. With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. I'm sympathetic to Black Liberation Theology personally but think his judgment in not cutting himself loose from Trinity Church and Wright well before he began running for president was terrible, and how he's handled the blowback has been dreadful. And I have plenty of other objections, many of which I've gone into here already. Bottom line, it's a mistake to think raunchydog and I are joined at the hip in our views of Obama, and of Hillary, for that matter. We're facing in the same general direction, but we got there for different reasons. - Here's another lie from Barry: Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and post the smears that Judy would otherwise have to post herself (and in fact, did post herself, before Raunchydog appeared on the scene to do it for her). I've never posted smears of Obama. Barry had the chance to dispute what I did post but utterly failed to do so. Nobody else was able to refute any facts I posted about Obama either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The bucket of hammers always has more fun than the nail. Judy's intellect is as sharp as a tack and she nails Barry every time. Love it. Thanks, but you got your metaphors a bit mixed there, raunchydog. Am I the bucket of hammers, or the tack? Because I sure don't think Barry's having anywhere near the degree of fun I am. Actually you don't have to be sharp as a tack to nail Barry. He has a perfectly good mind, but he's one of the laziest, sloppiest thinkers I've ever encountered. My sense of him has always been that he's *afraid* to use his intellect; if he doesn't make an effort, he can't fail. His whole life, it seems, has been about protecting himself from the risk of failure, and as a result he never really succeeds, either. You always hope that one day he's going to wake up and realize what a phony he's been. At the same time, you kind of wince, because it'll be such an incredibly painful experience. But it's his only chance to become real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Some of what raunchydog has posted are smears, some aren't. Note that Barry hasn't attempted to address any of what he claims are dishonest smears. Obama has more than enough other defenders on this forum, however. Barry, of course, is so butt-ignorant of the facts about any of the candidates that he falls flat on his face whenever he attempts even to attack McCain and Palin, as I've repeatedly shown. He doesn't even *try* to defend Obama except by attacking personally those who don't support him, as in this post. And as is standard with Barry, he can't get his attacks on us right either (see below). Barry's *especially* pissed off because when he denounced those of us who were promoting the bailout as FEAR-mongers, I posted an excerpt from an Obama speech in which Obama himself did his very best to convince Americans the economic crisis was DANGEROUS and that a LONG AND PAINFUL RECESSION would be the result of not passing the bailout bill. And, of course, not long after raunchydog arrived on the scene, I made it VERY clear that some of what she was posting were smears that I did not agree with, and that we had very different reasons for disliking Obama. But Barry has conveniently forgotten all about that post. Here it is, #189670: - [raunchydog wrote:] Chew on these links for a while, give me your best shot and let the fur fly. I'd like to dissociate myself from most of these; they don't represent *my* reasons for disliking Obama, except for the smear tactics of him and his followers. I'm inclined to think some of the above are smears of *him*, however; he's neither a Marxist nor an anti-Semite. With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. I'm sympathetic to Black Liberation Theology personally but think his judgment in not cutting himself loose from Trinity Church and Wright well before he began running for president was terrible, and how he's handled the blowback has been dreadful. And I have plenty of other objections, many of which I've gone into here already. Bottom line, it's a mistake to think raunchydog and I are joined at the hip in our views of Obama, and of Hillary, for that matter. We're facing in the same general direction, but we got there for different reasons. - Here's another lie from Barry: Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and post the smears that Judy would otherwise have to post herself (and in fact, did post herself, before Raunchydog appeared on the scene to do it for her). I've never posted smears of Obama. Barry had the chance to dispute what I did post but utterly failed to do so. Nobody else was able to refute any facts I posted about Obama either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
Interesting that you are having a ball posting disgraceful, preposterous smears against Barack. Have you no shame? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The bucket of hammers always has more fun than the nail. Judy's intellect is as sharp as a tack and she nails Barry every time. Love it. Thanks, but you got your metaphors a bit mixed there, raunchydog. Am I the bucket of hammers, or the tack? Because I sure don't think Barry's having anywhere near the degree of fun I am. Actually you don't have to be sharp as a tack to nail Barry. He has a perfectly good mind, but he's one of the laziest, sloppiest thinkers I've ever encountered. My sense of him has always been that he's *afraid* to use his intellect; if he doesn't make an effort, he can't fail. His whole life, it seems, has been about protecting himself from the risk of failure, and as a result he never really succeeds, either. You always hope that one day he's going to wake up and realize what a phony he's been. At the same time, you kind of wince, because it'll be such an incredibly painful experience. But it's his only chance to become real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Some of what raunchydog has posted are smears, some aren't. Note that Barry hasn't attempted to address any of what he claims are dishonest smears. Obama has more than enough other defenders on this forum, however. Barry, of course, is so butt-ignorant of the facts about any of the candidates that he falls flat on his face whenever he attempts even to attack McCain and Palin, as I've repeatedly shown. He doesn't even *try* to defend Obama except by attacking personally those who don't support him, as in this post. And as is standard with Barry, he can't get his attacks on us right either (see below). Barry's *especially* pissed off because when he denounced those of us who were promoting the bailout as FEAR-mongers, I posted an excerpt from an Obama speech in which Obama himself did his very best to convince Americans the economic crisis was DANGEROUS and that a LONG AND PAINFUL RECESSION would be the result of not passing the bailout bill. And, of course, not long after raunchydog arrived on the scene, I made it VERY clear that some of what she was posting were smears that I did not agree with, and that we had very different reasons for disliking Obama. But Barry has conveniently forgotten all about that post. Here it is, #189670: - [raunchydog wrote:] Chew on these links for a while, give me your best shot and let the fur fly. I'd like to dissociate myself from most of these; they don't represent *my* reasons for disliking Obama, except for the smear tactics of him and his followers. I'm inclined to think some of the above are smears of *him*, however; he's neither a Marxist nor an anti-Semite. With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. I'm sympathetic to Black Liberation Theology personally but think his judgment in not cutting himself loose from Trinity Church and Wright well before he began running for president was terrible, and how he's handled the blowback has been dreadful. And I have plenty of other objections, many of which I've gone into here already. Bottom line, it's a mistake to think raunchydog and I are joined at the hip in our views of Obama, and of Hillary, for that matter. We're facing in the same general direction, but we got there for different reasons. - Here's another lie from Barry: Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and post the smears that Judy would otherwise have to post herself (and in fact, did post herself, before Raunchydog appeared on the scene to do it for her). I've never posted smears of Obama. Barry had the chance to dispute
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The only thing Obama has to do to win the debate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really simple -- call America's attention to the thing that several posters here and many pundits in the press mentioned after the first debate, John McCain's inability to look at him. Obama should, at some appropriate point in the debate, turn to McCain and say, John...I can't help but notice that you haven't looked at me once during this debate. Why is that? Are you *afraid* to look me in the eye and say the things you are saying about me? McCain's advisors are going to be telling him NOT to repeat the obvious gaffe from the first debate, and to look directly at Obama when he is supposedly talking to him. But it's my bet that he won't be able to. His aversion to and fear of Obama -- as someone who is beating him without appearing to be breaking a sweat, as someone whose popularity has been largely unaffected by the worst smears McCain can have his henchmen and lackeys throw at him, and, essentially, as (in McCain's mind) an uppity nigger who has no place in white man's politics -- is so strong that I don't think he CAN look Obama directly in the eye. If Obama calls him on this, and then follows up with, John...if you can't look your opponent in a simple Presidential debate in the eye, what are you going to do when you're eye to eye with Putin, or with the terrorists you're trying your best to make Americans so afraid of? Are you going to stand there and fidget and look the other way, the way you're doing now? Obama could then end by looking into the camera and saying, If you want a President who is not only afraid to discuss problems and look them in the eye, but is afraid to even look his opponent in a political debate in the eye, then John McCain is your man. If you want a President who doesn't act like a terrified little girl, vote for me. It's NOT a smear; it's the truth. You all saw it in the last debate. My bet is that you'll see the same thing in this debate. If McCain is that stupid, and Obama calls him on it, everyone in America will see that it IS the truth. It's the simplest and fastest way to cut through the bullshit and expose the man behind the curtain. And it's a way of doing it *without* having to go negative himself. Obama will just be pointing out the truth about John McCain, on camera, so that it will become obvious to anyone watching. And even the dumbest redneck isn't going to vote for I'd love to see Obama do that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain�s speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico
Supposedly, according to whom? Oh right, saying palling around is now racist code. Obama plays the race card as a campaign strategy. So if want to crack racist code look no further than Obama's butt crack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:34 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: John McCain's speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico, is one of the best speeches. http://tinyurl.com/4gwk98 Do you ever check with any fact-checking organization before you refer to something as one of the best speeches? Supposedly it was just filled to the brim with coded racist invective... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
The shame will be on our nation, if we elect this fraud. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting that you are having a ball posting disgraceful, preposterous smears against Barack. Have you no shame? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The bucket of hammers always has more fun than the nail. Judy's intellect is as sharp as a tack and she nails Barry every time. Love it. Thanks, but you got your metaphors a bit mixed there, raunchydog. Am I the bucket of hammers, or the tack? Because I sure don't think Barry's having anywhere near the degree of fun I am. Actually you don't have to be sharp as a tack to nail Barry. He has a perfectly good mind, but he's one of the laziest, sloppiest thinkers I've ever encountered. My sense of him has always been that he's *afraid* to use his intellect; if he doesn't make an effort, he can't fail. His whole life, it seems, has been about protecting himself from the risk of failure, and as a result he never really succeeds, either. You always hope that one day he's going to wake up and realize what a phony he's been. At the same time, you kind of wince, because it'll be such an incredibly painful experience. But it's his only chance to become real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Some of what raunchydog has posted are smears, some aren't. Note that Barry hasn't attempted to address any of what he claims are dishonest smears. Obama has more than enough other defenders on this forum, however. Barry, of course, is so butt-ignorant of the facts about any of the candidates that he falls flat on his face whenever he attempts even to attack McCain and Palin, as I've repeatedly shown. He doesn't even *try* to defend Obama except by attacking personally those who don't support him, as in this post. And as is standard with Barry, he can't get his attacks on us right either (see below). Barry's *especially* pissed off because when he denounced those of us who were promoting the bailout as FEAR-mongers, I posted an excerpt from an Obama speech in which Obama himself did his very best to convince Americans the economic crisis was DANGEROUS and that a LONG AND PAINFUL RECESSION would be the result of not passing the bailout bill. And, of course, not long after raunchydog arrived on the scene, I made it VERY clear that some of what she was posting were smears that I did not agree with, and that we had very different reasons for disliking Obama. But Barry has conveniently forgotten all about that post. Here it is, #189670: - [raunchydog wrote:] Chew on these links for a while, give me your best shot and let the fur fly. I'd like to dissociate myself from most of these; they don't represent *my* reasons for disliking Obama, except for the smear tactics of him and his followers. I'm inclined to think some of the above are smears of *him*, however; he's neither a Marxist nor an anti-Semite. With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. I'm sympathetic to Black Liberation Theology personally but think his judgment in not cutting himself loose from Trinity Church and Wright well before he began running for president was terrible, and how he's handled the blowback has been dreadful. And I have plenty of other objections, many of which I've gone into here already. Bottom line, it's a mistake to think raunchydog and I are joined at the hip in our views of Obama, and of Hillary, for that matter. We're facing in the same general direction, but we got there for different reasons. - Here's another lie from Barry: Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. In some people's minds this horseshit passes for meaningful dialogue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama File 32
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saturday, September 27, 2008Obama File 32 Toxic Trio! Ayers, Davidson, Klonsky Linked to Pro-Obama [...] The latter organization has formed alliances with such groups as the League of Women Voters, Rainbow/PUSH, Citizen Action, People for the American Way, the Progressive Caucus, the Congressional Black Caucus, and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. Aiming ultimately to transform the United States into a socialist nation, Davidson advocates the mobilization of new grassroots majorities required for progressive, systemic change. In 1960s, Davidson was a national secretary of SDS and a key leader of the anti-Vietnam War campaign. With Tom Hayden, Davidson helped launch, in 1969, the Venceremos Brigades, which according to Discover the Networks You keep on portraying yourself as a progressive, and yet you tout stuff that denounces the League of Women Voters... Why, specifically? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
What's unfair? Haven't you noticed that playing the race card is at the heart of Obama's campaign strategy? Many have written about it. Google obama plays race card Here's one of the early articles: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt Obama's lackeys in the media now push the meme that if he loses it's because of race. Isn't this playing the race card? You have no problem objecting to what you think is unfair to Obama in this article but you ignore the fact this article is about unfairness to women. Figures. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is so unfair!! Obama and his lackeys have dragged the race into the mud. Oh look, there's that word again, race.
[FairfieldLife] Obama Expands National Lead 53% to 45%
The latest CNN/Opinion Research survey shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain nationally by eight points, 53% to 45%. Key finding: Low approval numbers for the current commander-in-chief may be part of the reason Obama's fortunes are rising in the latest survey: Only 24% of those polled approve of President Bush's job performance, an all-time low for a CNN survey... And that's bad news for McCain, because the poll suggests a growing number of Americans believe the Republican nominee would have the same policies as the current GOP president. Fifty-six percent say McCain's policies would be the same as Bush's, up from 50% a month ago. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/06/cnn-poll-obama-advantage-grows/ = SOME KEY STATES~~~ PPP Poll: Obama Expands Lead in North Carolina 50% to 44% A new Public Policy Polling survey in North Carolina finds Sen. Barack Obama now leading Sen. John McCain, 50% to 44%. For the first time, Obama is earning over 80% of the vote from self identified Democrats, and that's fueling a four point increase in his lead in the state compared to last week. He now has an 82% to 15% lead with voters in his own party. His share of the Democratic vote had been anywhere between 69% and 76% in PPP's previous five surveys of the state. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC_100625.pdf = Democracy Corps: Obama Up By Six in Ohio 49% to 43% A new Democracy Corps poll in Ohio finds Sen. Barack Obama now leading Sen. John McCain, 49% to 43%. Obama's lead is built on an impressive 48% to 35% edge among independent voters. McCain's attempt to seize the mantle of change is falling on deaf ears in Ohio as by 24%, voters in the Buckeye state believe Obama, not McCain, is the reformer and by 18%, Ohioans believe Obama will bring the right kind of change. And in a state where the economy is king, Obama's aggressive positioning of the economic contrast with McCain has produced an 11-point Obama lead on which candidate will do a better job on the economy. http://www.democracycorps.com/strategy/2008/10/obama-emerges-ahead-in-ohio/ = Suffolk Poll: Obama Crushing McCain in Virginia 51% to 39% A new Suffolk University poll in Virginia shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain by a stunning 12 points, 51% to 39%. Said pollster David Paleologos: Barack Obama has built a coalition of suburban DC area progressives from the north, African-American voters from the south, and young voters statewide. That broad-based support suggests a 44-year Republican run in the Old Dominion State, dating back to Lyndon Johnson's victory in 1964, is in jeopardy. Key finding: The poll shows last Thursday's vice presidential debate was a net plus for the Democratic ticket. Exactly three-quarters (75%) of likely voters watched and scored Joe Biden (46%) the clear winner over Sarah Palin (26%), while 20% said neither won the debate. When asked if the debate affected their presidential selection, 32% said it made them more likely to vote Obama, while 18% said the debate moved them to McCain, and 47% said the debate didn't affect their decision. http://suffolk.edu/31220.html = SurveyUSA: Obama Pulls Away in Virginia 53% to 43% A new SurveyUSA poll in Virginia shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain by ten points, 53% to 43%. Since a similar poll conducted just after the Republican convention, McCain has gone from up by 2 to down by 10. http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=00f2d8fb-6a3b-425d-9f27-21df796e8fe5 = SurveyUSA: Obama Way Ahead in New Hampshire 53% to 40% A new SurveyUSA poll in New Hampshire finds Sen. Barack Obama leading by an astonishing 13 points, 53% to 40%. A little history: New Hampshire voted Republican in 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988 and 2000. New Hampshire voted Democrat in 1992, 1996 and 2004, but no Democrat running for President in New Hampshire has received more than 50% of the vote in the past 44 years. Key findings: Obama holds a 22-point advantage among women, 29-point advantage among young voters, 21-point advantage among Moderates, 18-point advantage among those who consider themselves an intellectual, 24-point advantage among lower-income voters, and 23-point advantage among college graduates. http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a8255cdc-82a4-4a10-8cf2-063b666e514c = Rasmussen: Florida Obama leads McCain 52% to 45% Barack Obama has pulled ahead to his biggest lead yet over John McCain in Florida. The latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports survey of the state finds the Democrat ahead 52% to 45%. With the release of the latest poll, Florida moves from Toss-Up to Leans Democrat in the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator. Last week, the race was tied at 47%. Just one week prior, McCain had a five percentage point lead. http://tinyurl.com/6l683k =
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. In some people's minds this horseshit passes for meaningful dialogue. The bottom line, John, is that I haven't read anything that any of the people on my Don't Bother To Read List has said all week. All that is required to tell what they're up to is to see their name, the Subject line, and who/what they're responding to, and then immediately click Next. But, to make it more fun, sometimes I post a little something that I know will push their buttons, and then sit back and *count* the replies to what I've written. So far this week, for an investment of two such posts, without ever interacting with any of them, I've gotten these turkeys to waste a total of 31 posts replying. And they think that they're winning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The only thing Obama has to do to win the debate
On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:55 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:It's really simple -- call America's attention to the thing that several posters here and many pundits in the press mentioned after the first debate, John McCain's inability to look at him. That'd be a good one, if he could pull it off.I'd stick to the Keating 5 and the current Wall Street debacle. Peppered with snippets from the new Rolling Stone article to undermine his credibility and position as a spoiled daddy's boy with a bad temper, the "make-believe maverick". A "bottom gun" who wrecks everything he impulsively gets into.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
Judy wrote: With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. This is not the Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dorhn, Jermiah Wright, Father Phleger or Tony Rezko I knew. Barack Obama knew, and knew well, that Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were terrorists when he met them. Apparently Obama just didn't care.
Re: [FairfieldLife] It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
This is so unfair!! Obama and his lackeys have dragged the race into the mud. Oh look, there's that word again, race. --- On Mon, 10/6/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:29 PM The Confluence October 6, 2008 by garychapelhill It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist http://tinyurl.com/4sb77x McClatchy has an article today suggesting that if Missouri goes to the Republicans this year it will be because of racism. Never mind the fact that Missouri has gone Republican in the last two elections. They are determined to make this all about race, just as they did in the primaries. I am shocked that more people in the African American and civil rights communities aren't outraged at having this issue used as a tool to elect a fraud to the White House solely based on the color of his skin. Because when it comes to the content of his character, he doesn't have a shred of it. Four years ago, one yard in a working-class Kansas City suburb sported a Kerry sign bigger than a bed mattress. But this season there's no Obama sign there of any size, not even throw-pillow dimension. It's the `B-L-A-C-K' issue, a neighbor explained. You hear it everywhere. But it hardly has to be spelled out for most of us that race has been injected into presidential politics in unprecedented ways. And who injected it into the race? That would be Obama himself, and his lackeys in the corporate, lying media, who care as much about race relations as they do about telling the truth. That would be not at all. See, they only cry bigotry when it suits their interests. And their interest is to have a sock puppet in the white house. If they truly cared about bigotry and hatred they would recognize the rampant sexism that has gone on this election season. They might even write articles contemplating that Obama might win in a given state because the voters don't want to elect a W-O-M-A-N to the vice-presidency. Instead they engage in some of the most vile, hate-filled attacks on women you can imagine. If you don't believe me, take a look at these editorial cartoons. The media, while it falls all over itself to see tinges of racism, openly engages in the worst kinds of misogyny. I found sixty cartoons about Palin at this site and not one of them was positive. Here is a sample: Not only that, they paint HER as the anti-feminist sexist, and to prove beyond a doubt that they are complete scumbags, they pile onto her teenage daughter as well. If anyone dared draw a picture of Obama in such a condescending and thoroughly dismissive way just because of his race, I'd be the first to cry foul. So why can they do it to a woman? So here's the deal the media is trying to sell you: If Obama loses it will be YOUR fault because YOU are a racist. If McCain/Palin lose, the fact that they used the most vile and misogynistic tactics against her is fair game because, well, you know she's a stupid girl. 30% is all we need to stop this nonsense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
Correction. That should be shit in a bucket. Quackser Fortune Has A Cousin In The Bronx http://tinyurl.com/3kjzwt http://tinyurl.com/3ee7ul --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. In some people's minds this horseshit passes for meaningful dialogue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
feste wrote: Interesting that you are having a ball posting disgraceful, preposterous smears against Barack. So Obama chose to start his career in politics in the living room of Bernadine Dorhn. Have you no shame? And now Obama denies knowing who Bernadine was or what she did. 'Running on Empty with Bernardine Dohrn' Posted by Roger Simon October 6th, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/4nqs7y
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Expands National Lead 48% to 45%
John wrote: Obama Expands National Lead 53% to 45% Obama 48 McCain 45 Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking: http://tinyurl.com/2yke8u
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Vaj, why couldn't there be a third possibility, such as THAT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN? Why is it that the only possibilities had to be something catastrophic? And to now say, as you do, that the two possibilities were the two extremes -- extreme hot or extreme cold -- my gosh, I'm not a scientist but I think I'm on safe ground when I say that THAT is wacky and kooky stuff and not something that can be called science. How does that definition of science go? That something is only known when it occurs as predicted as a repeatable experiment? Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. That's religion (actually, it's more like a cult). Shemp, don't you think its good to err on the side of caution and do some things about protecting the environment rather than continuing on mindlessly? Yes, I would totally agree with that. And if erring on the side of caution means we do things like alternative energies and such, that's only a win-win. But that's NOT the kind of things that Al Gore wants to do. When he advocates things such as ethanol -- that is, food for fuel -- it is outrageously wrong...and it's killing the weakest of the world and that is simply a crime. Agreed totally, it's a really stupid idea and is being abused by farmers as a cash crop and is pushing up food prices worldwide. There is no try something different answer, we have to cut back because there is nothing to replace fossil fuels with, the energy stored from millions of years of ancient sunlight can't be replaced with stuff we grow today because we use 400 years worth every year. A bit of a shortfall eh? Carbon trading is also bullshit. So lets stop kidding ourselves and make the neccesary cutbacks, only we can't because that would ruin the economy. So, like I always say, whatever happens we are going to have to put up with it because man is like the proverbial lemming, except we know that jumping over the cliff is a stupid idea. Sure, let's do whatever we can to find cleaner energy sources but there shouldn't be such a horrible, negative cost to doing it. AND the first thing that Al Gore can do is declare: I was wrong; the debate is NOT over. Even some of the folks who hate all these carbon tax initiatives think its a good idea to conserve the environment. Note the word conserve. So we can guess you're not much of a conservative. :-D
[FairfieldLife] More Obama smears
I guess what the American people want to know though Senator, is what is the real difference between you and John McCain. You are running this ad tying him to the industry saying that he has taken all of these contributions, but as you well know there is a story out today about how you supported the Dick Cheney bill and he opposed it. That bill gave subsidies to the oil and gas companies, John McCain opposed the bill saying those are tax breaks for those companies, Barack Obama favored it. Read more: 'Not quite ready for prime time' Posted by Paul Mirengoff Powerline, August 6, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6ygvtj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Supporters...Still Creepy!
Typical deceptive practices of Fox News supporters. Leave out the bits that completely contradict the point you want to make: I don't think that Obama is a messiah. I know that he has flaws, that he will fail in many ways, that the space between his ideals and his actions will often gape with a discomfiting hypocrisy, or at the very least, inefficiency. But I am almost certain that he is good deep down, that he believes, as I do, that we could do better, that we could be better, that we are â when stripped of bureaucracy and alienation and skepticism â already better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Confluence Posted on October 4, 2008 by garychapelhill Obama Supporters...Still Creepy! http://tinyurl.com/4s3tru http://tinyurl.com/4s3tru I came across this op/ed from the Christian Science Monitor. http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081003/cm_csm/ymartin;_ylt=Aq2sNvfVNkQQAv\ LsSyoKilKs0NUE Is this a presidential election or a second coming? [200] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/messiah-obama.jpg Like so many Americans, I feel as though I am holding my breath. Could the quiet seed of joy that was planted in my heart the day I heard Barack Obama speak for the first time take root and grow without fear of the brutal storms of disappointment? Could a leader that evokes awe in me actually win a presidential election? Could the beauty � and logic � of his words win over the majority of this country's voters? Could they see past the lies and distractions to the center of a human being who sincerely wants to invoke citizens' higher selves? Could a system that seems so broken, so moneyed, so corrupt actually serve to help the American people elect an authentic, complex thinker? Could it be that � despite all that is wrong with the electoral process � there is enough right to allow a thoughtful candidate to get through the muck and emerge earnest and excited to lead? Short answer: What are you smoking? Seriously, this is just too much. Not even the deranged 33%ers who stuck by Bush through his most criminal and corrupt years as President ever sounded this nutty. But not only that, this person wants you to know that if all of her deluded dreams of grandeur are not fulfilled, it will all be YOUR fault It is not his inevitable fall from grace that I fear. It is the possibility that on Nov. 4, I will find out that my acute craving for a kind and complex leader is not shared by the majority of Americans. That conclusion to this breathtaking story would tempt me, not just to be alienated from American politics, but from the American people. I fear that the worst part of me would bully the best part with cruel words: I told you so. Hope is dangerous and naive. No, it couldn't possibly be that you got bamboozled by a used car salesman. http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/would-you-buy-\ a-used-car-from-this-man.html That would be too difficult for your fragile psyche to reconcile. Above all this is a childish approach to convincing people to vote your way. If you have a teenager you'll recongize it right away. It's the old I will forever lose my faith in mankind if I don't get my way rouse. My advice�same one your logical and beautiful candidate gave me: Get over it. **UPDATE** Zee suggests that maybe the author of this op-ed may have seen Jesus Christ Superstar one too many times Video I Don't Know How to Love Him http://tinyurl.com/4msrua http://tinyurl.com/4msrua
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
Outstanding, Lawson! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
I'm just messin' with your ant-Obama screeds, raunchdog! --- On Tue, 10/7/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 8:53 AM What's unfair? Haven't you noticed that playing the race card is at the heart of Obama's campaign strategy? Many have written about it. Google obama plays race card Here's one of the early articles: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt Obama's lackeys in the media now push the meme that if he loses it's because of race. Isn't this playing the race card? You have no problem objecting to what you think is unfair to Obama in this article but you ignore the fact this article is about unfairness to women. Figures. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is so unfair!! Obama and his lackeys have dragged the race into the mud. Oh look, there's that word again, race. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] 'Sarah Palin- A Beauty Wrapped Beast?' (666)???
'Sarah Palin= A Desperate Soul, Lusting for Power' A candidate, who uses political seduction, an art form. We can study, in school, when this facade has finally ended... All the winks, moves and grooves of Sarah Palin, of Alaska. Like Ronald Reagan, the camera loves her, and she loves it. Governor Palin, seems the opposite of Abraham Lincoln... While Lincoln was not as easy to look at, he had a deep understanding: Of governing fearlessly in a great crisis, and a man of profound character. He didn't agree with Governor Palin, that America is so perfect, that he would hang out... With radicals who wanted to abolish slavery, and defend the Union from chaos. What an irony, that while Lincoln's strength and vision of soul... Led him to defend the Union. Governor Palin of Alaska, has associated herself with comrades who would like to Succeed from the Union. Words that sound like Maverick... ~~~hooked, crocked, besotted,blotto, blind drunk, irregular, unorthodox, unconventional, Insurgent, rebel, nonconformist, bohemian... Mr. Big...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: At a certain point, it doesn't matter who is whacking or nailing Barry. In either case, I'm having a ball. For clarification, I'm the bucket of hammers and proud of it. In some people's minds this horseshit passes for meaningful dialogue. The bottom line, John, is that I haven't read anything that any of the people on my Don't Bother To Read List has said all week. All that is required to tell what they're up to is to see their name, the Subject line, and who/what they're responding to, and then immediately click Next. But, to make it more fun, sometimes I post a little something that I know will push their buttons, and then sit back and *count* the replies to what I've written. So far this week, for an investment of two such posts, without ever interacting with any of them, I've gotten these turkeys to waste a total of 31 posts replying. And they think that they're winning. Excellent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Some of what raunchydog has posted are smears, some aren't. Note that Barry hasn't attempted to address any of what he claims are dishonest smears. Obama has more than enough other defenders on this forum, however. Barry, of course, is so butt-ignorant of the facts about any of the candidates that he falls flat on his face whenever he attempts even to attack McCain and Palin, as I've repeatedly shown. He doesn't even *try* to defend Obama except by attacking personally those who don't support him, as in this post. And as is standard with Barry, he can't get his attacks on us right either (see below). Barry's *especially* pissed off because when he denounced those of us who were promoting the bailout as FEAR-mongers, I posted an excerpt from an Obama speech in which Obama himself did his very best to convince Americans the economic crisis was DANGEROUS and that a LONG AND PAINFUL RECESSION would be the result of not passing the bailout bill. And, of course, not long after raunchydog arrived on the scene, I made it VERY clear that some of what she was posting were smears that I did not agree with, and that we had very different reasons for disliking Obama. But Barry has conveniently forgotten all about that post. Here it is, #189670: - [raunchydog wrote:] Chew on these links for a while, give me your best shot and let the fur fly. I'd like to dissociate myself from most of these; they don't represent *my* reasons for disliking Obama, except for the smear tactics of him and his followers. I'm inclined to think some of the above are smears of *him*, however; he's neither a Marxist nor an anti-Semite. With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. I'm sympathetic to Black Liberation Theology personally but think his judgment in not cutting himself loose from Trinity Church and Wright well before he began running for president was terrible, and how he's handled the blowback has been dreadful. And I have plenty of other objections, many of which I've gone into here already. Bottom line, it's a mistake to think raunchydog and I are joined at the hip in our views of Obama, and of Hillary, for that matter. We're facing in the same general direction, but we got there for different reasons. - Here's another lie from Barry: Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and post the smears that Judy would otherwise have to post herself (and in fact, did post herself, before Raunchydog appeared on the scene to do it for her). I've never posted smears of Obama. Barry had the chance to dispute what I did post but utterly failed to do so. Nobody else was able to refute any facts I posted about Obama either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If anyone dared draw a picture of Obama in such a condescending and thoroughly dismissive way just because of his race, I'd be the first to cry foul. So why can they do it to a woman? So here's the deal the media is trying to sell you: If Obama loses it will be YOUR fault because YOU are a racist. If McCain/Palin lose, the fact that they used the most vile and misogynistic tactics against her is fair game because, well, you know she's a stupid girl. 30% is all we need to stop this nonsense. Do you really think this is all about the sex of the candidate? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain�s speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John McCain's speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico, is one of the best speeches. http://tinyurl.com/4gwk98 Do you ever check with any fact-checking organization before you refer to something as one of the best speeches? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] The Joy of Sox documentary
By filmmaker and ex-TMer Joel Leskowitz Major league baseball just did an article about The Joy of Sox doc. Here's the link. Please pass it along to as many as you can: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article_entertainment.jsp?ymd=20081002content_id=35 82722vkey=entertainmentfext=.jsp http://tinyurl.com/3qylpp It keeps getting publicity (more publicity than money) and hopefully we can finish it sometime in the next few months. ciao Joel
[FairfieldLife] Aw shucks! Has Erja betrayed Elmore? : /
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PMaVcNnEQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. Some patriots believed that our government had stopped doing the will of the people and was following its own agenda against the will of Americans. Some of them were compelled (foolishly I believe) to commit illegal acts to bring the country's attention to the government's actions. One of them, Ayers, grew up and found better channels for his activism than setting bombs. Good for him. Good for America. Re-branding Ayers as a terrorist might work on someone who did not live through that era as a young person I guess. Although I was not a supporter of the violent activists during the peace movement years, I understand their frustration with what the government was doing. Am I the only one who remembers those days, and the many confusing choices we were trying to make as young people? Does anyone else remember how it felt when we discovered we were illegally bombing Cambodia? How about the pictures of Mei Lai? America had lost its way. We were wandering around dazed by the crashing sounds of 50's style patriotism crumbling under weight of our government completely fucking up. The government was lying to us and we knew it, and acting like a terrorist on steroids in South East Asia. Collateral damage? Nice try at re-branding! Maybe if you add some chicks in bikinis falling into a pool...perfect! Now lighting children on fire seems sooo...collateral! The Ayers/Obama made-up issue demonstrates the kind of simplistic thinking that exposes why politics depends on people thinking in reductionist slogans. Life is more complex than simple slogans can convey. But here is one that still works after all these years: You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feste wrote: Interesting that you are having a ball posting disgraceful, preposterous smears against Barack. So Obama chose to start his career in politics in the living room of Bernadine Dorhn. Have you no shame? And now Obama denies knowing who Bernadine was or what she did. 'Running on Empty with Bernardine Dohrn' Posted by Roger Simon October 6th, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/4nqs7y
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Well, you better get busy learning this stuff, Spare Egg, because from what you've told us about yourself, your weight, and your health, you've probably only got 3 or 4 years left... Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Well, you better get busy learning this stuff, Spare Egg, because from what you've told us about yourself, your weight, and your health, you've probably only got 3 or 4 years left... Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Good news all around, and my best wishes to you in this new program. When you get to 'normal,' let me know how it feels, eh? :-) Well, I have an inkling: I don't usually get lost counting to 10 mentally any more. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
The bucket of hammers always has more fun than the nail. Judy's intellect is as sharp as a tack and she nails Barry every time. Love it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip On the FFL level, same thing. Note that the person who *poses* on this forum as the defender of those who have been wronged *hasn't said a word* to defend Obama against Raunchydog's dishonest smears, even though she knows that's what they are. Not a word. Some of what raunchydog has posted are smears, some aren't. Note that Barry hasn't attempted to address any of what he claims are dishonest smears. Obama has more than enough other defenders on this forum, however. Barry, of course, is so butt-ignorant of the facts about any of the candidates that he falls flat on his face whenever he attempts even to attack McCain and Palin, as I've repeatedly shown. He doesn't even *try* to defend Obama except by attacking personally those who don't support him, as in this post. And as is standard with Barry, he can't get his attacks on us right either (see below). Barry's *especially* pissed off because when he denounced those of us who were promoting the bailout as FEAR-mongers, I posted an excerpt from an Obama speech in which Obama himself did his very best to convince Americans the economic crisis was DANGEROUS and that a LONG AND PAINFUL RECESSION would be the result of not passing the bailout bill. And, of course, not long after raunchydog arrived on the scene, I made it VERY clear that some of what she was posting were smears that I did not agree with, and that we had very different reasons for disliking Obama. But Barry has conveniently forgotten all about that post. Here it is, #189670: - [raunchydog wrote:] Chew on these links for a while, give me your best shot and let the fur fly. I'd like to dissociate myself from most of these; they don't represent *my* reasons for disliking Obama, except for the smear tactics of him and his followers. I'm inclined to think some of the above are smears of *him*, however; he's neither a Marxist nor an anti-Semite. With regard to some of the associations, what bothers me is not the associations themselves but his lack of straightforwardness about them, particularly Ayers and Rezko. I'm sympathetic to Black Liberation Theology personally but think his judgment in not cutting himself loose from Trinity Church and Wright well before he began running for president was terrible, and how he's handled the blowback has been dreadful. And I have plenty of other objections, many of which I've gone into here already. Bottom line, it's a mistake to think raunchydog and I are joined at the hip in our views of Obama, and of Hillary, for that matter. We're facing in the same general direction, but we got there for different reasons. - Here's another lie from Barry: Now Judy can allow Raunchydog to take the point in their shared go negative campaign, and post the smears that Judy would otherwise have to post herself (and in fact, did post herself, before Raunchydog appeared on the scene to do it for her). I've never posted smears of Obama. Barry had the chance to dispute what I did post but utterly failed to do so. Nobody else was able to refute any facts I posted about Obama either.
[FairfieldLife] Sanskrit words of October-November: sara, paalin
sara mf(%{A})n. (fr. %{sR}) fluid , liquid VS. ; cathartic ,
purgative , laxative Sus3r. Va1gbh. ;
pAlin mfn. protecting , guarding , keeping S3ukas. BhP. ; m. (ifc.) a
ruler , king of. BhP. ; N. of a son of Pr2ithu Hariv. ;
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:32 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. Some patriots believed that our government had stopped doing the will of the people and was following its own agenda against the will of Americans. Some of them were compelled (foolishly I believe) to commit illegal acts to bring the country's attention to the government's actions. One of them, Ayers, grew up and found better channels for his activism than setting bombs. Good for him. Good for America. Fair and insightful as always, Curtis. I'm going to forward it to my political list.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But, to make it more fun, sometimes I post a little something that I know will push their buttons, and then sit back and *count* the replies to what I've written. So far this week, for an investment of two such posts, without ever interacting with any of them, I've gotten these turkeys to waste a total of 31 posts replying. And they think that they're winning. My God, he really is hallucinating. Barry, get some help, FAST.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin is to McCain as Raunchydog is to Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip But, to make it more fun, sometimes I post a little something that I know will push their buttons, and then sit back and *count* the replies to what I've written. So far this week, for an investment of two such posts, without ever interacting with any of them, I've gotten these turkeys to waste a total of 31 posts replying. And they think that they're winning. Excellent. Folie a deux. John's hallucinating right along with Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outstanding, Lawson! Yep. Thanks. ;-) L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: snip Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been.
[FairfieldLife] Barry Wright now endorsing TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Well, you better get busy learning this stuff, Spare Egg, because from what you've told us about yourself, your weight, and your health, you've probably only got 3 or 4 years left... Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Good news all around, and my best wishes to you in this new program. When you get to 'normal,' let me know how it feels, eh? :-) Good news all around, Barry? All around must necessarily include the news that Spare Egg is being more regular in his practise of TM. Gosh, aren't you the one who's always telling us how very average TM is? And that there are SO many better systems of meditation that we brainwashed TMers have never tried so how the hell should we know that TM is so great? Fucking hypocrite. If you were truly sincere in extending your best wishes to Spare Egg instead of just paying lip service to words, you would be consistent with what you've written here over and over and over for the past umpteen years: you would be recommending one of the BETTER systems of meditation that you, O Great Knower of ALL Spiritual Systems, are so familiar with.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's unfair? Haven't you noticed that playing the race card is at the heart of Obama's campaign strategy? Many have written about it. Google obama plays race card Here's one of the early articles: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt Obama's lackeys in the media now push the meme that if he loses it's because of race. Isn't this playing the race card? You have no problem objecting to what you think is unfair to Obama in this article but you ignore the fact this article is about unfairness to women. Figures. I've yet to hear of any of Obama's supporters yelling at a white reporter to sit down, honky! Nor have I heard of any Obama supporter yelling out that McCain is a terrorist, or that we should kill Keating, or the founder of Palin's husband's former political party. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: This is so unfair!! Obama and his lackeys have dragged the race into the mud. Oh look, there's that word again, race.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Well, you better get busy learning this stuff, Spare Egg, because from what you've told us about yourself, your weight, and your health, you've probably only got 3 or 4 years left... Eh, incrementally increased my meds 8-fold from what they were 4 months ago (under strict supervision of counselor and psychiatrist) and with the latest increase, I've started loosing .5 pounds a day, every day for the past 2-3 weeks. Also started medtating far more regularly, going to sleep (usually) much earlier, and actually putting in 4+ hours a day programming, every day for the past week. the plan is to keep at the current level, re-evaulate in another 2 weeks, and then go to 12x the dose from 4 months ago. The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Good news all around, and my best wishes to you in this new program. When you get to 'normal,' let me know how it feels, eh? :-) Well, I have an inkling: I don't usually get lost counting to 10 mentally any more. Lawson ...some of us may be hoping you get lost counting to 50...
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain�s speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:34 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: John McCain's speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico, is one of the best speeches. http://tinyurl.com/4gwk98 Do you ever check with any fact-checking organization before you refer to something as one of the best speeches? Supposedly it was just filled to the brim with coded racist invective... I don't know about coded racial invective, but it was certainly meant to incite a violence and hate-prone group to a greater frenzy. and us vs them references could be taken as Republican vs Democrat or American vs foreigner or white vs black, or some combination of the above. At this point, I'm pretty sure that McCain is well aware that it is being taken all sorts of ways by his base. He certainly didn't miss the terrorist label someone used against Obama during one of his speeches. He even had the grace to look aghast for a second before continuing. However, by the time he gave the speech that Raunchydog is so proud of, he appears to have mastered his distaste and smiled throughout the entire speech, even as the yells and catclls grew even louder against his opponent. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The 2-year goal is to become normal. Something I've never been. Good news all around, and my best wishes to you in this new program. When you get to 'normal,' let me know how it feels, eh? :-) I was just going to say, normal? What the hell is that, anyway? I also can't wait to hear the report when spare gets there... Sal Example of normal: deciding to drive someone to the store, NOT missing the left turn and being forced to do a u-turn, and not missing the right turn and being forced to do another u-turn to get to back to the original left turn. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIDS Vaccine 'By 2012'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Link telegraph.co.uk A French scientist awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine for discovering the AIDS virus immediately predicted there would be a therapeutic vaccine for the disease within four years. Does that mean fucking other men up the ass-hole without a condom will soon be back in vogue?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
Curtis wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. You seem to have missed the point: it's not so much what Ayers and Bernadine did in the past, it's that Obama said he hardly knew them. Appreantly you know more about Bill and Bernadine than Obama does. There's something devious about Barack Obama - he wants to associate himself with individuals who openly expressed their hatred of America: Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jermiah Wright, and Father Pfleger. And then Obama says, that wasn't the Bill he knew. Now that's what a devious lawyer would say! Has Bill changed all that much since he set those bombs?
[FairfieldLife] The Real Obama?
Despite his words today about change and cleaning up the mess in Washington, Obama was not on the side of reformers who were trying to change the status quo of corrupt, machine politics in Chicago and clean up the mess there. Obama came out in favor of the Daley machine and against reform candidates. Read more: 'The Real Obama' By Thomas Sowell Election 2008, October 07, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/3g4c3j He was a staunch backer of Richard Daley, who as mayor failed to stem the corruption that has made Chicago one of America's most notorious cities. Read more: 'The Case Against Barack Obama' by David Freddoso Regnery, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/463pn8
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIDS Vaccine 'By 2012'
On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:20 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Link telegraph.co.uk — A French scientist awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine for discovering the AIDS virus immediately predicted there would be a therapeutic vaccine for the disease within four years. Does that mean fucking other men up the ass-hole without a condom will soon be back in vogue? It's a therapeutic vaccine, not a preventative vaccine, so you will still have to wear a condom Shemp--unless of course you're in a committed relationship with a negative partner who doesn't fool around on you...
[FairfieldLife] Palin's Hate Rallies
I believe it's only a matter of time before something happens at one of these rallies. This ain't good. Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media. At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, Sit down, boy. http://tinyurl.com/3wmg4c Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers, Palin said. B! said the crowd. And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' she continued. B! the crowd repeated. Kill him! proposed one man in the audience. http://tinyurl.com/3trnmh I don't know what they think they're accomplishing, but they sure seem to be attracting mostly haters to these Palin rallies. _ Media is not allowed to talk to Sarah Palin's supporters: Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, Can I help you?'' and turn the person around. When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday. http://tinyurl.com/4lst34 Seriously. What are they afraid of? Freedom of speech? via: http://blah3.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
Hold the phone. Do you really think setting a bomb so that no one would get hurt is excusable? In fact people DID get hurt. When you forward curtisdeltablues insightful ruminations on the merits of Ayers political activism, don't forget to mention that three of his jackass friends killed themselves making bombs intended to be set off at a dance at a local Army base! http://tinyurl.com/2f2cb8 Ayers was in hiding for ten years and he got off on a technicality because of illegal wiretaps(no longer forbidden by FISA thanks to Obama)even though he admits his crimes and is unrepentant for it. If you think it's OK for Obama to hang with Ayers and dismiss it as a smear to even talk about it, then all I can say is, you've been drinking too much Kool Aid. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:32 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. Some patriots believed that our government had stopped doing the will of the people and was following its own agenda against the will of Americans. Some of them were compelled (foolishly I believe) to commit illegal acts to bring the country's attention to the government's actions. One of them, Ayers, grew up and found better channels for his activism than setting bombs. Good for him. Good for America. Fair and insightful as always, Curtis. I'm going to forward it to my political list.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The only thing Obama has to do to win the debate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's really simple -- call America's attention to the thing that several posters here and many pundits in the press mentioned after the first debate, John McCain's inability to look at him. [...] It's the simplest and fastest way to cut through the bullshit and expose the man behind the curtain. And it's a way of doing it *without* having to go negative himself. Obama will just be pointing out the truth about John McCain, on camera, so that it will become obvious to anyone watching. And even the dumbest redneck isn't going to vote for I'd love to see Obama do that. I wouldn't. The election is going to result in quite a few deaths, I think, before its over. No need to make it worse. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime For the record (as I posted previously): - He and several others were indicted on federal charges for crossing state lines to incite a riot and for conspiracy to bomb government buildings. He wasn't arrested because he had gone underground, and before he surfaced the charges were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, including improper surveillance. So he got off on a technicality. - His girlfriend at the time was killed in the explosion in a Greenwich Village townhouse where she and other Weathermen were making a nail bomb-- an antipersonnel device designed to kill people. snip Re-branding Ayers as a terrorist might work on someone who did not live through that era as a young person I guess. I lived through that era. I was an antiwar activist and was as appalled as anybody at what the government was doing. But the Weathermen, Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, included, most certainly were terrorists. People *were* killed, albeit not directly by Ayers. They were lucky more people weren't killed given what they were doing. That they may have been patriots doesn't mean they weren't also terrorists. As the saying goes, One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. As I also wrote previously: - His relationship with Obama doesn't particularly bother me, although he isn't somebody I'd want to associate with. But what's problematic is that Obama hasn't been straightforward about the extent of his dealings with Ayers. In one of the primary debates, when he was asked about Ayers, he said: This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from [sic] on a regular basis. In fact, Obama worked closely with Ayers on a number of education reform projects (Ayers is a professor of education, not English); Ayers and Dohrn hosted a fundraiser for Obama's Illinois senatecampaign in their home. -
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: What's unfair? Haven't you noticed that playing the race card is at the heart of Obama's campaign strategy? Many have written about it. Google obama plays race card Here's one of the early articles: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt Obama's lackeys in the media now push the meme that if he loses it's because of race. Isn't this playing the race card? You have no problem objecting to what you think is unfair to Obama in this article but you ignore the fact this article is about unfairness to women. Figures. I've yet to hear of any of Obama's supporters yelling at a white reporter to sit down, honky! Obviously you don't understand what playing the race card means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_card And check out the article raunchydog cites: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. You seem to have missed the point: it's not so much what Ayers and Bernadine did in the past, it's that Obama said he hardly knew them. Appreantly you know more about Bill and Bernadine than Obama does. I'm sure he parsed his words pretty carefully. We are in the area where spin and reality meet. I can understand that Obama might minimize his association with controversial people. Got caught with a bit too much spin? OK, politics as usual. Seeing what the right is trying to do with this info, tell lies, I think I can understand his reluctance to make a big deal about his association with certain people. I know all sorts of people whose pasts might have things I would disagree with. But I interact with them as they are now. There's something devious about Barack Obama - he wants to associate himself with individuals who openly expressed their hatred of America: Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jermiah Wright, and Father Pfleger. Hatred of America is Fox news style spin. People who have felt the need for America to change may be just as patriotic as people who think everything is fine. Wright is black. (did ya notice?) He has a beef or two with how America has treated black Americans. The changes he wants makes America better and more in keeping with our constitutionally stated ideals. When speaking to a black audience he doesn't have to parse his words and can be dramatic. It doesn't mean he has a hatred of America, but he may harbor a hatred for racial discrimination. Imagine that! A black man who is against racial discrimination in America and speaks about it in a dramatic fashion to his mostly black congregation. (Maybe we should just round em up and learn em some patriotic manors?) And then Obama says, that wasn't the Bill he knew. Now that's what a devious lawyer would say! Has Bill changed all that much since he set those bombs? Why not? Most of the radicals in that period changed completely. Jerry Rubin became a corporate trainer. Most people age out of criminal activities according to my friend who ran a school for delinquents. Sometimes they get married and their partner gets them out of anti-social behavior. So Obama's statement makes perfect sense to me. Ayer was a complex guy and Obama interacted with the part of his personality that didn't include his youthful bomb making. I grew up with guys like Ayer who did all sorts of crazy shit. I guarantee you that most of them are fat and happy on their couch with the game on and kids running around today. People change as they grow up. right? I believe that we have all changed our basic ideals from the time we were in our 20's to now. Haven't you learned anything since you were 20 Richard?
[FairfieldLife] Her preferences?
If Her safety could be guaranteed, would She rather shoot Rannians from a hellacopter with an AK 47, than nuke them?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:34 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal Hold the phone. Do you really think setting a bomb so that no one would get hurt is excusable? In fact people DID get hurt. When you forward curtisdeltablues insightful ruminations on the merits of Ayers political activism, don't forget to mention that three of his jackass friends killed themselves making bombs intended to be set off at a dance at a local Army base! http://tinyurl.com/2f2cb8 Ayers was in hiding for ten years and he got off on a technicality because of illegal wiretaps(no longer forbidden by FISA thanks to Obama)even though he admits his crimes and is unrepentant for it. If you think it's OK for Obama to hang with Ayers and dismiss it as a smear to even talk about it, then all I can say is, you've been drinking too much Kool Aid. I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. That's your logic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Curtis wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. You seem to have missed the point: it's not so much what Ayers and Bernadine did in the past, it's that Obama said he hardly knew them. Appreantly you know more about Bill and Bernadine than Obama does. I'm sure he parsed his words pretty carefully. We are in the area where spin and reality meet. I can understand that Obama might minimize his association with controversial people. Had he been open about his association with Ayers from the get-go, Ayers would have been much less of a problem for him. Same with Wright, for that matter, and Rezko as well. As they say, it's not the crime (or other awkward situation, in this case), it's the cover-up. Obama has done far too much covering-up of his past. That just shows really poor judgment on his part.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [raunchydog wrote:] If you think it's OK for Obama to hang with Ayers and dismiss it as a smear to even talk about it, then all I can say is, you've been drinking too much Kool Aid. I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. Did you harm anybody or damage anyone's property when you were high? Did you work to bring down the U.S. government by violence? There are crimes, and then there are crimes.
RE: [FairfieldLife] 24-hour global air traffic
check out this one too: Worldwide Earthquakes 5/08 - 7/08 (subwoofer recommended!) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6iNUvlU0SJY http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6iNUvlU0SJYfeature=related feature=related
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:52 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [raunchydog wrote:] If you think it's OK for Obama to hang with Ayers and dismiss it as a smear to even talk about it, then all I can say is, you've been drinking too much Kool Aid. I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. Did you harm anybody or damage anyone's property when you were high? Did you work to bring down the U.S. government by violence? No, but I turned my life around and so did Ayers, and neither of our lives now bears any similarity to our earlier lives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
I thought guys like Ayers and Rubin were assholes even back then. As I'm sure you remember the peace movement has the whole continuum from Leary followers who thought if enough people dropped acid (or did TM) the world would change to people who wanted to tear down the government. I'm not condoning bomb making as protest then or now. I'm just saying I understand the times and I can imagine that people can change as they age. It wasn't simple back then and it isn't simple now. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from [sic] on a regular basis. In fact, Obama worked closely with Ayers on a number of education reform projects (Ayers is a professor of education, not English); Ayers and Dohrn hosted a fundraiser for Obama's Illinois senatecampaign in their home. It may still be true that Obama didn't exchange ideas with the guy outside the specific context of his project with him. And I think he may not be the first politician who used a person's help without agreeing with everything he has said. I don't have the same problem you have with his description of his relationship. For all we know he disagreed with the guy on most points other than education. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, right? Frankly I am glad that Obama can deal with a person in a specific task without agreeing with everything they do. This is one of the biggest problems with the intellectual environment surrounding Bush, intellectual conformity. The fact that Obama saw that a former bomber could help him reform education makes him more appealing. I think there is hope that he may even be able to extend himself to former Bush supporters and work with them on specific projects to improve the world. Some of them may be rehabilitatable! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime For the record (as I posted previously): - He and several others were indicted on federal charges for crossing state lines to incite a riot and for conspiracy to bomb government buildings. He wasn't arrested because he had gone underground, and before he surfaced the charges were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, including improper surveillance. So he got off on a technicality. - His girlfriend at the time was killed in the explosion in a Greenwich Village townhouse where she and other Weathermen were making a nail bomb-- an antipersonnel device designed to kill people. snip Re-branding Ayers as a terrorist might work on someone who did not live through that era as a young person I guess. I lived through that era. I was an antiwar activist and was as appalled as anybody at what the government was doing. But the Weathermen, Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, included, most certainly were terrorists. People *were* killed, albeit not directly by Ayers. They were lucky more people weren't killed given what they were doing. That they may have been patriots doesn't mean they weren't also terrorists. As the saying goes, One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. As I also wrote previously: - His relationship with Obama doesn't particularly bother me, although he isn't somebody I'd want to associate with. But what's problematic is that Obama hasn't been straightforward about the extent of his dealings with Ayers. In one of the primary debates, when he was asked about Ayers, he said: This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from [sic] on a regular basis. In fact, Obama worked closely with Ayers on a number of education reform projects (Ayers is a professor of education, not English); Ayers and Dohrn hosted a fundraiser for Obama's Illinois senatecampaign in their home. -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:34 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal Hold the phone. Do you really think setting a bomb so that no one would get hurt is excusable? In fact people DID get hurt. When you forward curtisdeltablues insightful ruminations on the merits of Ayers political activism, don't forget to mention that three of his jackass friends killed themselves making bombs intended to be set off at a dance at a local Army base! http://tinyurl.com/2f2cb8 Ayers was in hiding for ten years and he got off on a technicality because of illegal wiretaps(no longer forbidden by FISA thanks to Obama)even though he admits his crimes and is unrepentant for it. If you think it's OK for Obama to hang with Ayers and dismiss it as a smear to even talk about it, then all I can say is, you've been drinking too much Kool Aid. I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. That's your logic. No, her logic is if, today, you still advocated that teenagers should abuse drugs that anyone associating with you would be guilty of associating with a low-life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. You seem to have missed the point: it's not so much what Ayers and Bernadine did in the past, it's that Obama said he hardly knew them. Appreantly you know more about Bill and Bernadine than Obama does. There's something devious about Barack Obama - he wants to associate himself with individuals who openly expressed their hatred of America: Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jermiah Wright, and Father Pfleger. And then Obama says, that wasn't the Bill he knew. Now that's what a devious lawyer would say! Has Bill changed all that much since he set those bombs? Eh, John McCain sent a birthday card to Joe Bonano. Come to think of it, McCain married the daughter of a convicted felon who made his fortune by gin running and dealing with Mafioso types as well O well... Lawson
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:02 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal No, her logic is if, today, you still advocated that teenagers should abuse drugs that anyone associating with you would be guilty of associating with a low-life. Ayers still advocates that people bomb buildings?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
Obama has done far too much covering-up of his past. That just shows really poor judgment on his part. He is spinning his past to accentuate the positives and de-accentuate the negatives. Imagine that! It is almost as if he is a professional politician. And he is being cautious knowing that anything he says will be distorted by the right. At worst he is being cagey. But to try to use these associations as proof that Obama is somehow a secret terrorist (which is on many of the emails I get from conservatives) goes against the spirit of truth. His associations are not a big deal and neither are his desire not to get dragged over the coals for working with a diverse group of people. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Curtis wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. You seem to have missed the point: it's not so much what Ayers and Bernadine did in the past, it's that Obama said he hardly knew them. Appreantly you know more about Bill and Bernadine than Obama does. I'm sure he parsed his words pretty carefully. We are in the area where spin and reality meet. I can understand that Obama might minimize his association with controversial people. Had he been open about his association with Ayers from the get-go, Ayers would have been much less of a problem for him. Same with Wright, for that matter, and Rezko as well. As they say, it's not the crime (or other awkward situation, in this case), it's the cover-up. Obama has done far too much covering-up of his past. That just shows really poor judgment on his part.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
Curtis wrote: I believe that we have all changed our basic ideals from the time we were in our 20's to now. Haven't you learned anything since you were 20 Richard? No, Curtis, I've never changed my basic ideals. Unlike yourself, who apparently spent years and years selling a cult religion to people, and then changing into a purveyor of atheistic musical nonsense syllables. Please point out where either Ayers or Dohrn has apologized for being a terrorists against the U.S. When Ayers Dorhn planted the bombs they were revolutionaries who were driven by a hatred of the United States; they are driven by a hatred of United States now. Ayers was recently in Venezuela praising Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. You're talking about a couple who expressed enthusiastic approval of the Charles Manson murders! This is outrageous! The question is, when did Obama learn that Ayers and Dohrn planted bombs at New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, and at the Capitol building in 1971, and then at the Pentagon in 1972? When did Obama find out that Ayers and Dorhn founded the Weather Underground? When, exactly, did Obama learn that Ayers and Dohrn spent almost the entire 1970's as fugitives from justice? So, does Obama now consider Ayers and Dorhn's bombing campaign to be a reform educational activity?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime For the record (as I posted previously): - He and several others were indicted on federal charges for crossing state lines to incite a riot and for conspiracy to bomb government buildings. He wasn't arrested because he had gone underground, and before he surfaced the charges were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, including improper surveillance. So he got off on a technicality. - His girlfriend at the time was killed in the explosion in a Greenwich Village townhouse where she and other Weathermen were making a nail bomb-- an antipersonnel device designed to kill people. snip Re-branding Ayers as a terrorist might work on someone who did not live through that era as a young person I guess. I lived through that era. I was an antiwar activist and was as appalled as anybody at what the government was doing. But the Weathermen, Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, included, most certainly were terrorists. People *were* killed, albeit not directly by Ayers. They were lucky more people weren't killed given what they were doing. That they may have been patriots doesn't mean they weren't also terrorists. As the saying goes, One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. As I also wrote previously: - His relationship with Obama doesn't particularly bother me, although he isn't somebody I'd want to associate with. But what's problematic is that Obama hasn't been straightforward about the extent of his dealings with Ayers. In one of the primary debates, when he was asked about Ayers, he said: This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from [sic] on a regular basis. In fact, Obama worked closely with Ayers on a number of education reform projects (Ayers is a professor of education, not English); Ayers and Dohrn hosted a fundraiser for Obama's Illinois senatecampaign in their home. - I believe that last is not true. Obama attended the announcement of his mentor's Congressional run at Ayer's house, but it wasn't specifically a fund-raiser for Obama (I think). Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: What's unfair? Haven't you noticed that playing the race card is at the heart of Obama's campaign strategy? Many have written about it. Google obama plays race card Here's one of the early articles: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt Obama's lackeys in the media now push the meme that if he loses it's because of race. Isn't this playing the race card? You have no problem objecting to what you think is unfair to Obama in this article but you ignore the fact this article is about unfairness to women. Figures. I've yet to hear of any of Obama's supporters yelling at a white reporter to sit down, honky! Obviously you don't understand what playing the race card means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_card Actually, for the second meaning of the term, as presented at wikipedia, the outsider and Unamerican and not like us talking points certainly DO fit playing the race card. And check out the article raunchydog cites: http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain�s spe ech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico
On Oct 7, 2008, at 11:16 AM, sparaig wrote: At this point, I'm pretty sure that McCain is well aware that it is being taken all sorts of ways by his base. I'm pretty sure that McCain is well aware he's tanking faster than the Titanic, and with even more people jumping ship...watch for ever-more desperate gambits in the coming 4 weeks. He certainly didn't miss the terrorist label someone used against Obama during one of his speeches. He even had the grace to look aghast for a second before continuing. However, by the time he gave the speech that Raunchydog is so proud of, he appears to have mastered his distaste and smiled throughout the entire speech, even as the yells and catclls grew even louder against his opponent.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
On Oct 7, 2008, at 11:19 AM, sparaig wrote: I was just going to say, normal? What the hell is that, anyway? I also can't wait to hear the report when spare gets there... Sal Example of normal: deciding to drive someone to the store, NOT missing the left turn and being forced to do a u-turn, and not missing the right turn and being forced to do another u-turn to get to back to the original left turn. I'm getting whiplash from all these u-turns... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: I believe that we have all changed our basic ideals from the time we were in our 20's to now. Haven't you learned anything since you were 20 Richard? No, Curtis, I've never changed my basic ideals. Sorry to see yo have not learned anything since you were a young man. For me the concept of love for example has become much richer by my years of living and loving. I may use the same word I used as a kid, but the basic ideal is so much more complete now. For you...not so much. Good luck with that. I'll bet you have been happy as a clam with the last 8 years. Unlike yourself, who apparently spent years and years selling a cult religion to people, and then changing into a purveyor of atheistic musical nonsense syllables. Now you are just being a dick, Richard. Please point out where either Ayers or Dohrn has apologized for being a terrorists against the U.S. I couldn't care less if they apologize. Public apologies are a dime a dozen. I don't need another Dr. Phil moment, manipulation. When Ayers Dorhn planted the bombs they were revolutionaries who were driven by a hatred of the United States; they are driven by a hatred of United States now. Ayers was recently in Venezuela praising Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. You're talking about a couple who expressed enthusiastic approval of the Charles Manson murders! This is outrageous! Supporting the Manson murders seems like a bad thing to me too. But what if Manson and his followers apologized? Would that make it all OK? The attacks on Obama's past associations reveal the lack of real ideas in the slogan-rich McCain campaign. After repeating the word Maverick a few thousand times we find out that all he has to sell is fear of Obama. And I'm not buying it. The question is, when did Obama learn that Ayers and Dohrn planted bombs at New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, and at the Capitol building in 1971, and then at the Pentagon in 1972? When did Obama find out that Ayers and Dorhn founded the Weather Underground? When, exactly, did Obama learn that Ayers and Dohrn spent almost the entire 1970's as fugitives from justice? So, does Obama now consider Ayers and Dorhn's bombing campaign to be a reform educational activity?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:34 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal Hold the phone. Do you really think setting a bomb so that no one would get hurt is excusable? In fact people DID get hurt. When you forward curtisdeltablues insightful ruminations on the merits of Ayers political activism, don't forget to mention that three of his jackass friends killed themselves making bombs intended to be set off at a dance at a local Army base! http://tinyurl.com/2f2cb8 Ayers was in hiding for ten years and he got off on a technicality because of illegal wiretaps(no longer forbidden by FISA thanks to Obama)even though he admits his crimes and is unrepentant for it. If you think it's OK for Obama to hang with Ayers and dismiss it as a smear to even talk about it, then all I can say is, you've been drinking too much Kool Aid. I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. That's your logic. And if you should go so far as to give them or find them a job... Gasp. Of course, marrying convicted felon's children is ok, as long as they are wealthy. Likewise with sending birthday cards to notorious gangsters. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Curtis wrote: Ayers was not convicted of any crime, but claims to have set bombs near buildings when no one was around to get hurt. It was in protest of a war which many American patriots believed was illegal and immoral. You seem to have missed the point: it's not so much what Ayers and Bernadine did in the past, it's that Obama said he hardly knew them. Appreantly you know more about Bill and Bernadine than Obama does. I'm sure he parsed his words pretty carefully. We are in the area where spin and reality meet. I can understand that Obama might minimize his association with controversial people. Had he been open about his association with Ayers from the get-go, Ayers would have been much less of a problem for him. Same with Wright, for that matter, and Rezko as well. As they say, it's not the crime (or other awkward situation, in this case), it's the cover-up. Obama has done far too much covering-up of his past. That just shows really poor judgment on his part. Unlike, say, the Clintons, Palin or McCain? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Too pornographic for a Victorian(?) translator? :D
Well, Maharishi *did* say the knowledge
had been lost. ...
;-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
wrote:
All right, cardemaister, don't be coy -
how would those verses read if they had
not been bowdlerized?
na seshe yasya rambate 'ntaraa sakthyaa kapRt
sed iishe yasya romashaM niSeduSo vijRmbhate [vishvasmaad
indra uttaraH]
na seshe yasya romashaM niSeduSo vijRmbhate
sed iishe yasya rambate 'ntaraa sakthyaa kapRd [vishvasmaad
indra uttaraH]
Let's suppose that the sandhi-vigraha for 'seshe' is 'sa iishe'.
According to Monier-Williams, the verb 'iish' in Rgveda means
at least 'belong to'. Thus the first line *might* mean
something like 'he (Indra?) doesn't belong to someone
whose (yasya) dick (kapRt) is hanging (rambate)'. I don't
try to translate 'antaraa sakthyaa' because it doesn't seem
to add that much into the general meaning, but 'sakthyaa'
probably is instrumental singular from 'sakthi':
sakthin. (derivation doubtful ; the base %{saktha4n} [fr. which acc.
pl. %{sakthAni} RV. v , 61 , 3] appears in later language only in the
weakest cases e.g. sg. instr. %{sakthnA4} gen. abl. %{sakthna4s} loc.
%{saktha4ni} , or %{sakthni4} cf. Pa1n2. 7-1 , 75 ; there occurs also
nom. acc. du. %{sakthyau4} [RV. x , 86 , 16 AV. vi , 9 , 1] formed fr.
a fem. base %{sakthI4}) , ***the thigh , thigh-bone*** ; the pole or
shafts of a cart (du. euphemistically ` the female organ ') RV.
c. c.
The second line *could* mean 'he (Indra?) belongs to [a man]
whose dick becomes erect (vijRmbhate) near (niSeduSaH; cf.
'upa-*ni-Sad*': ~sitting near) a cunt (romasham; literally:
a hairy one). That doesn't feel a very good translation,
but the general meaning almost certainly is something
like that.
But the second verse seems to turn the whole thing
upside down, so to speak. Just read it carefully, and
you might notice that yourselves...
'vishvasmaad indra uttaraH' is a slogan repeated at
the end of each verse, I believe.
[FairfieldLife] AP: McCain was on board of group linked to former Nazi collaborators
In the 1980s, McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The U.S. Council for World Freedom aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption. The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league's chairman. Full Associated Press article: http://tinyurl.com/4frjme
[FairfieldLife] I encourage everyone to change subject lines when appropriate, was: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
On another note, what the hell am I doing in the subject line of this thread? Like that, like that. Eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIDS Vaccine 'By 2012'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Link telegraph.co.uk A French scientist awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine for discovering the AIDS virus immediately predicted there would be a therapeutic vaccine for the disease within four years. Does that mean fucking other men up the ass-hole without a condom will soon be back in vogue? It already is. More and more porn features bareback fucking, and thanks to new medications, there's a growing attitude that HIV is just another treatable chronic condition, like diabetes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIDS Vaccine 'By 2012'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Link telegraph.co.uk A French scientist awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine for discovering the AIDS virus immediately predicted there would be a therapeutic vaccine for the disease within four years. Does that mean fucking other men up the ass-hole without a condom will soon be back in vogue? It already is. More and more porn features bareback fucking, and thanks to new medications, there's a growing attitude that HIV is just another treatable chronic condition, like diabetes. There will be another virus that will develop, or that the AIDS virus will become resistent to the vaccine. Just another twist from Nature to even up the ante.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AP: McCain was on board of group linked to former Nazi collaborators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 1980s, McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. So, McCain is tied to former Nazis and right-wing death squads, Palin is tied to anti-American Alaskan separatists, and Obama is tied to Ayers. I can just imagine the new slogan: Obama/Biden: 50% less terrorist!
[FairfieldLife] Palin Blasts Obama's Ties to Weather Channel
‘Palling Around with Meteorologists,' Guv Claims Alaska governor Sarah Palin went on the attack today, claiming that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama had longstanding ties to The Weather Channel. What does it say about our opponent that he thinks this nation's weather is so imperfect that he needs to be allied with The Weather Channel? she asked a crowd in Tampa, Florida. There's a fine line between hating America's weather and hating America herself. Gov. Palin said that she learned about Sen. Obama's ties to The Weather Channel last week when I was trying hard to read The New York Times. They said that Sen. Obama was hanging out with weathermen, she said. Do we really want to elect someone who has been palling around with meteorologists? Gov. Palin's latest attacks came on the heels of a new poll showing that the only demographic group that still support her are morons, sometimes referred to by political insiders as no-information voters. It may sound like she spouting idiocy, but there's a method to her madness, said Tracy Klugian, a Republican strategist. She's speaking to her base. Elsewhere, Sen. John McCain's practice session for the second presidential debate was cut short when his pants burst into flame. http://www.borowitzreport.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] CNN says Obama lying about Ayers
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/cnn-obamas-lying-about-william- ayers/ CNN: Obama’s lying about William Ayers POSTED AT 7:38 AM ON OCTOBER 7, 2008 BY ED MORRISSEY You’ll want to double-check the logo at the bottom left corner during this report. It really is CNN and Anderson Cooper fact-checking Barack Obama’s claims to have barely known William Ayers — and calling it dishonest. Stanley Kurtz even gets to make an appearance on a network other than Fox for this report (via Dirty Harry’s Place): Drew Griffin runs down most of the salient points raised by people like Kurtz, David Freddoso, Jerome Corsi, and others. Obama’s admission in a debate that he briefly served on “a board” with Ayers with little contact gets shot down. CNN followed up on Kurtz’ work with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and debunks that notion. They also — amazingly — report on the nature of the grants made by the CAC while Obama ran it to Ayers’ favored schools with radical agendas. Griffin also tells a somewhat nonplussed Cooper that Obama has lied about his “coming out party” at the home of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn in 1995. Obama has said that Alice Palmer arranged the fundraiser and the venue, but Griffin spoke to two people who attended the event, who claim Obama lied. Palmer had nothing to do with that event outside of being invited to it. Obama and Ayers planned the event themselves. Obama has lied repeatedly about his relationship with the unrepentant domestic terrorist. He spent years working for Ayers, promoting Ayers’ causes. Even CNN won’t buy the Obama line any longer. Expect John McCain to raise this point tonight in the debate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Hate Rallies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers, Palin said. B! said the crowd. And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' she continued. B! the crowd repeated. Kill him! proposed one man in the audience. http://tinyurl.com/3trnmh I don't know what they think they're accomplishing, but they sure seem to be attracting mostly haters to these Palin rallies. Why should you be surprised? Look who they attract on this forum.
[FairfieldLife] What Obama Should Say tonight
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-obama-should-say-rude- version-part.html 10/07/2008 What Obama Should Say (Rude Version), Part 2: If, at tonight's debate in Nashville, when Tom Brokaw or some undecided voter asks Barack Obama about his association with former Weather Underground member and current Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois - Chicago William Ayers, and the Democratic candidate doesn't say, Oh, fuck me, really? Okay, fine. You want me to talk about this shit? Here ya go: he's a dude on my street who held a coffee get-together for me years ago when I was gonna run to be the state senator of his 'hood. And we served at the same time on the board of the Woods Fund. You know what the Woods Fund does? It tries to help community organizers in Chicago get shit done for the poor, you know, like education, housing, and jobs. Now, Sarah Palin may think that community organizers don't do jack shit, but we did the work the government wouldn't or couldn't do. So, yeah, Ayers was there. But 'pal around' with him? Motherfucker, we followed Robert's Rules of Order together. Maybe for people who scream at and abuse their friends that counts as being 'pals,' but for most of us, it ain't even an 'acquaintance.' Dude, Johnny, you signed a confession that degraded America when you were over in 'Nam. And I'm the traitor? You really think people give a fat rat's fuck about William Ayers and what he did 40 years ago? Goddamn, Johnny Maverick, you must be shitting yourself so much that Cindy's gotta change them Depends every hour or you'll smell like you're rotting from the inside. You know what it means when all you got to throw at a candidate is people he's met? It means you're fuckin' frightened, man, and it means that you've maxed out your bullshit card - no one's buyin' what you're sellin', Johnny Maverick; just send that worthless shit back to the Republican warehouse of lies next to trickle-down and WMDs and commie spies in Hollywood. So you can have your Muppet-sounding idiot VP bitch out there in front of crowds, talkin' smack about me and gettin' people to yell, 'Kill him,' and you can try to convince everyone I'm a terrorist. Fuck, talk about Tony Rezko and Reverend Wright. Drag those corpses up there and cut new holes in 'em to try to show you can fuck 'em different than others have. But you know and I know that you're desperate. Motherfucker, you tied yourself to Reagan and Bush and now that ideology is sinkin' like cement shoes on a mob snitch. Drown, motherfucker, drown. I faced down Bill and Hillary Clinton, Johnny Mac. They pulled all that shit on me. They raped and beat me like new prison meat. Do you honestly think that your gimpy ass and that dimwitted attack cunt with you are gonna lay a hand on me? And you're in the shit now. 'Cause I've been waitin' for this moment, you fuckin' senile old fuck. I was waitin' until I could see the whites of your twitchy fuckin' eyes to pull the trigger on the Keating Gatling gun I've been holdin'. You wanted to take the gloves off. Then why are your hands shakin', bitch? You can send your people out there to say that you were cleared, but the name sticks, doesn't it? 'Keating Five'? I wasn't gonna go there, but you teed up the ball. I just swung the fuckin' club. Now, lemme ask you somethin'. What's more important - that some guy who did some shit four decades ago once said, 'Hi' to me or that you are one of the reasons that the federal government had to bail out the savings and loan industry? Moral equivalence doesn't work, does it, Johnny Mac? You stupid cocksucker, get your head out of your piss hole in the Hanoi Hilton. There's people out there killing themselves because they can't pay the mortgage. Jobs are disappearing faster than liver spots are popping up on your skin. Pakistan's about to go nutzoid, and they have actual nukes, not hallucinated ones like you thought Iraq had. And you actually think that anyone cares about Ayers other than the backward ass redneck country fucks who are so fuckin' retarded that they think Sarah Palin is smart. America's scared, man. You can't scare it any more than it is already. You decided to go from nasty to evil. You decided to make this personal. So when it's over, Johnny Mac, when your decrepit, crippled little body finally gives out on you after you lose this election, I want you to have to watch the TV and see me out there, livin' your dream, this Negro terrorist liberal elitist lawyer. I want the last thing you see on this earth to be me, standin' in the Rose Garden, smilin' at reporters and know that I'm smilin' at you, Johnny Maverick, knowin' that I'm right where you thought you would be then the debate will be worthless.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Wolf on the October 1st Coup
authfriend wrote: Lemme just finish up with Bhairitu here: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip And has anybody heard of this martial law provision she speaks of? I certainly haven't. Note that Bhairitu had never heard of the martial law provision of the House rules and doubted that it existed. So I proved it to him: You mean Wolf didn't mention it? http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm Now that he knows it exists, he insists that if it had been threatened, it would have been in the headlines: And if this house rule had been the case it would have been part of the headlines that day. But it wasn't. Nobody said it was the case. It was *threatened*, remember? So? It still would have been reported. Here's Rep. Michael Burgess explaining what happened to Alex Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTM7kuVrf0I Want to call Burgess a liar? Bhairitu claims (incorrectly) that the House martial law provision could not have been threatened because the threat would have been reported. OK, now look at this: And that it was fear mongering. They were being pressured into passing the bill. Right. But not by an administration threat to impose martial law if they didn't. You don't know that for sure. A threat of martial law over the entire country wasn't reported either, even though that would have been *vastly* more inflammatory than the threat of invoking the House procedure--but Bhairitu still claims it's possible that national martial law *was* threatened. And he wants us to take his dire prognostications and conspiracy theories seriously! He's a bubblehead. There's no other word for it. On a par with Sarah Palin. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D Looks like I really pushed your buttons! You're so predictable, Judy. That's why you're the butt of a lot of jokes around here. Those who bothered to watch Wolf's video know that I referring to Sherman's comments in the context of that video. And OMG! I'm a conspiracy theorist! I only offer these articles as food for thought as I know some of the folks here are interested in this stuff. You don't have to read it. Let's suppose that if we were hanging out at a cafe in Berlin in 1928 and I told you the Nazis were a threat and would impose fascism on the country you would also say I'm nuts. Look I hope that fascism doesn't happen but it is pretty much getting there. Just look at the executive orders that Bush has implemented, those are outrageous. They're definitely up to something. A bubblehead? Maybe you ought to look in a mirror, you Hillary loser. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D Thanks for playing. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] I encourage everyone to change subject lines when appropriate, was: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
Rick Archer wrote: On another note, what the hell am I doing in the subject line of this thread? Like that, like that. Eh? Actually they should start a new topic instead of just change the subject line. Changing the subject line appears computer illiterate but I know some people want to preserve their right to look computer illiterate on FFL. :-D
