[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[seventhray1]

okay, thanks.  I'll try to find it locally, or order it.  thanks again


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of seventhray1
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:15 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
> inDOMES
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the recommendations. I wish I could find something I enjoy
> reading for a few minutes before I drop off to sleep. I am so narrow
minded
> that I can't bring myself to read fiction and usually stick with
something
> "spiritua"l in nature. But most of the modern new agey type books seem
dull
> and full of platitudes. Lately I've been reading some of the lesser
known
> early theosophists. Even that has been somewhat dull.
>
> I highly recommend Radhanath Swami's book, "The Journey Home".
Spiritual and
> exciting at the same time.
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Unearthing the Philistines of Old'...

[Robert]

In this photo taken Wednesday, July 6, 2011, volunteers and archeologists walk 
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TEL EL-SAFI, Israel (AP) — At the remains of an ancient metropolis in southern 
Israel, archaeologists are piecing together the history of a people remembered 
chiefly as the bad guys of the Hebrew Bible.

The city of Gath, where the annual digging season began this week, is helping 
scholars paint a more nuanced portrait of the Philistines, who appear in the 
biblical story as the perennial enemies of the Israelites.
Close to three millennia ago, Gath was on the frontier between the Philistines, 
who occupied the Mediterranean coastal plain, and the Israelites, who 
controlled the inland hills. The city's most famous resident, according to the 
Book of Samuel, was Goliath — the giant warrior improbably felled by the young 
shepherd David and his sling.
The Philistines "are the ultimate other, almost, in the biblical story," said 
Aren Maeir of Bar-Ilan University, the archaeologist in charge of the 
excavation.
The latest summer excavation season began this past week, with 100 diggers from 
Canada, South Korea, the United States and elsewhere, adding to the wealth of 
relics found at the site since Maier's project began in 1996.
In a square hole, several Philistine jugs nearly 3,000 years old were emerging 
from the soil. One painted shard just unearthed had a rust-red frame and a 
black spiral: a decoration common in ancient Greek art and a hint to the 
Philistines' origins in the Aegean.
The Philistines arrived by sea from the area of modern-day Greece around 1200 
B.C. They went on to rule major ports at Ashkelon and Ashdod, now cities in 
Israel, and at Gaza, now part of the Palestinian territory known as the Gaza 
Strip.
At Gath, they settled on a site that had been inhabited since prehistoric 
times. Digs like this one have shown that though they adopted aspects of local 
culture, they did not forget their roots. Even five centuries after their 
arrival, for example, they were still worshipping gods with Greek names.
Archaeologists have found that the Philistine diet leaned heavily on grass pea 
lentils, an Aegean staple. Ancient bones discarded at the site show that they 
also ate pigs and dogs, unlike the neighboring Israelites, who deemed those 
animals unclean — restrictions that still exist in Jewish dietary law.
Diggers at Gath have also uncovered traces of a destruction of the city in the 
9th century B.C., including a ditch and embankment built around the city by a 
besieging army — still visible as a dark line running across the surrounding 
hills.
The razing of Gath at that time appears to have been the work of the Aramean 
king Hazael in 830 B.C., an incident mentioned in the Book of Kings.
Gath's importance is that the "wonderful assemblage of material culture" 
uncovered there sheds light on how the Philistines lived in the 10th and 9th 
centuries B.C., said Seymour Gitin, director of the W.F. Albright Institute of 
Archaeological Research in Jerusalem and an expert on the Philistines.
That would include the era of the kingdom ruled from Jerusalem by David and 
Solomon, if such a kingdom existed as described in the Bible. Other Philistine 
sites have provided archaeologists with information about earlier and later 
times but not much from that key period.
"Gath fills a very important gap in our understanding of Philistine history," 
Gitin said.
In 604 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon invaded and put the Philistines' cities 
to the sword. There is no remnant of them after that.
Crusaders arriving from Europe in 1099 built a fortress on the remains of Gath, 
and later the site became home to an Arab village, Tel el-Safi, which emptied 
during the war surrounding Israel's creation in 1948. Today Gath is in a 
national park.
An Israeli town founded in 1955 several miles to the south, Kiryat Gat, was 
named after Gath based on a misidentification of a different ruin as the 
Philistine city.
The memory of the Philistines — or a somewhat one-sided version — was preserved 
in the Hebrew Bible.
The hero Samson, who married a Philistine woman, skirmished with them 
repeatedly before being betrayed and taken, blinded and bound, to their temple 
at Gaza. There, the story goes, he broke free and shattered two support 
pillars, bringing the temple down and killing everyone inside, including 
himself.
One intriguing find at Gath is the remains of a large structure, possibly a 
temple, with two pillars. Maeir has suggested that this might have been a known 
design element in Philistine temple architecture when it was written into the 
Samson story.
Diggers at Gath have also found shards preserving names similar to Goliath — an 
Indo-European name, not a Semitic one of the kind that would have been used by 
the local Canaanites or Israelites. These finds show the Philistines indeed 
used such names and suggest that this

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of seventhray1
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:15 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  


Thanks for the recommendations.  I wish I could find something I enjoy
reading for a few minutes before I drop off to sleep.  I am so narrow minded
that I can't bring myself to read fiction and usually stick with something
"spiritua"l in nature.  But most of the modern new agey type books seem dull
and full of platitudes.  Lately I've been reading some of the lesser known
early theosophists.  Even that has been somewhat dull.

I highly recommend Radhanath Swami's book, "The Journey Home". Spiritual and
exciting at the same time.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[seventhray1]

It's kind of neat.  My daughter has become a full fledged Blues fan. 
(pretty cool huh?).  Well maybe not the Delta Blues, but a Blues fan
nonetheless.  As I know some personnel for the facility, I was able to
get her a signed TJ Oshie jersey for her birthday, and a signed Carlo
Coliochovo stick for Christmas.  We get to go to some (quite a few)
games (through the same contact).  I also happen to live close by to
said brewery, and depending on which way the wind is blowing, I'll get a
nice whiff of those  hops.   I also work in proximity to the coffee
roasters in town, and get an occassional sniff of those beans as well. 
And how about this.  I'm close enough to downtown, such that when Albert
Puhols hits a home run I can sometimes hear the fireworks.  When you
comin down brother?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
>
> Hey man, it's all well earned bro love. Only a clink of a long neck
bottle is necessary.
>
> Now how about that team that has jerseys and throws something around
or hits it with some kind of stick?
>
> Yeah, man that was amazing!
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Curtis! I am blushing a little though. (-:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Talk about an off stage presence! This Kat, whoever she is, from
> > Oregan
> > > > has spawned another round of FFL's most time honored debate.
This
> > time
> > > > presenting the case to Kat. Have we gotten to the closing
arguments
> > > > yet? I've been posting here for many years, and never gotten the
> > > > respect Kat has gotten after about two posts. What's up with
that?
> > >
> > > Steve, your respect roots run deep here with me. You were one of
the
> > first to respond to emotional nuance in what I posted here and for
that
> > you will always be on my top 5 list of people I write for here.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO
> > SIGN
> > > > EVER
> > > > > > inDOMES
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that
silly
> > book
> > > > trying
> > > > > > to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep
shit
> > :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster
boy
> > for
> > > > "My
> > > > > > mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years,
> > meeting
> > > > almost all the so-called "saints" under the sun that he is all
mixed
> > up
> > > > :-)
> > > > > In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually
read
> > a
> > > > book to know the content.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of seventhray1
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:59 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  

Talk about an off stage presence!  This Kat, whoever she is, from Oregan has
spawned another round of FFL's most time honored debate.  This time
presenting the case to Kat.  Have we gotten to the closing arguments yet?
I've been posting here for many years, and never gotten the respect Kat has
gotten after about two posts.  What's up with that?

Because she's a damsel in distress and we're all playing knight in shining
armor. You're just a dude. Slay your own dragons.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[curtisdeltablues]

Hey man, it's all well earned bro love.  Only a clink of a long neck bottle is 
necessary. 

Now how about that team that has jerseys and throws something around or hits it 
with some kind of stick?

Yeah, man that was amazing! 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks Curtis!  I am blushing a little though.   (-:
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Talk about an off stage presence! This Kat, whoever she is, from
> Oregan
> > > has spawned another round of FFL's most time honored debate. This
> time
> > > presenting the case to Kat. Have we gotten to the closing arguments
> > > yet? I've been posting here for many years, and never gotten the
> > > respect Kat has gotten after about two posts. What's up with that?
> >
> > Steve, your respect roots run deep here with me. You were one of the
> first to respond to emotional nuance in what I posted here and for that
> you will always be on my top 5 list of people I write for here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO
> SIGN
> > > EVER
> > > > > inDOMES
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly
> book
> > > trying
> > > > > to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit
> :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy
> for
> > > "My
> > > > > mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years,
> meeting
> > > almost all the so-called "saints" under the sun that he is all mixed
> up
> > > :-)
> > > > In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read
> a
> > > book to know the content.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[seventhray1]

Thanks Curtis!  I am blushing a little though.   (-:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Talk about an off stage presence! This Kat, whoever she is, from
Oregan
> > has spawned another round of FFL's most time honored debate. This
time
> > presenting the case to Kat. Have we gotten to the closing arguments
> > yet? I've been posting here for many years, and never gotten the
> > respect Kat has gotten after about two posts. What's up with that?
>
> Steve, your respect roots run deep here with me. You were one of the
first to respond to emotional nuance in what I posted here and for that
you will always be on my top 5 list of people I write for here.
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO
SIGN
> > EVER
> > > > inDOMES
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly
book
> > trying
> > > > to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit
:-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy
for
> > "My
> > > > mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"
> > >
> > >
> > > You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years,
meeting
> > almost all the so-called "saints" under the sun that he is all mixed
up
> > :-)
> > > In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read
a
> > book to know the content.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[seventhray1]

Edg, I say you're an alarmist who has a tendency to jump on any situaton
like this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> I'd caution ya to go through the files and cull out the bad ones now,
and I'd like to hear what you will do to any poster who posts
copyrighted material on purpose in order to close down FFL.I ask,
because there's irky-jerks here who would do just that. Probably most
MMY photos are easy to frame as copyrighted material, so you might have
to dump almost all of the photos.onto some other public server that
can be linked to from FFLor?
>
> One thing's for sure, Yahoo will just flat out dump ya in short order
if they have to handle this issue again, and they'll let you take MUM to
court and get an order from the court to re-instate FFL, before they'd
even consider activation.
>
> So they've got the power and will use it to lessen their
frictionseven if they can see that there is no loss to MUM by such
publishing.
>
> Edg
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> >
> > On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > "Here is the
> > > "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> >
> > You were the one that posted the article? Looks like they're out to
get
> > ya. ;-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
 wrote:
> Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO community
announcement stuff for years, and it's never been a problem. My
inclination would be to just keep things as they are, and if there's
something the TMO doesn't want in the archives, they'll contact Yahoo
and have it removed.
>

Yea for common sense!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[seventhray1]

Careful Nabby, you could be next with Share Int'l!!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> >
> > On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > "Here is the
> > > "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> >
> > You were the one that posted the article? Looks like they're out to
get
> > ya. ;-)
>
>
> Not only that but Rick posted instructions for obtaing the article
from Google long after he received Yahoo!'s letter.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[seventhray1]

Thanks for the recommendations.  I wish I could find something I enjoy
reading for a few minutes before I drop off to sleep.  I am so narrow
minded that I can't bring myself to read fiction and usually stick with
something "spiritua"l in nature.  But most of the modern new agey type
books seem dull and full of platitudes.  Lately I've been reading some
of the lesser known early theosophists.  Even that has been somewhat
dull.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"
 wrote:
>
> Yesterday, I finished ¨Songs of >Kabir¨translated by Arvind
Krishna Mehrotra, with a Preface by Wendy Doniger. I found it
delightful, full of wisdom, and FUNNY¨. I,m certain that others on
this Forem would enjoy the read.
>
> I began¨Great House¨, and am on page29. The author, Nicole
Krauss previously wrote ¨The Histoy of Love¨, which I loved. Both
were given to me by my daughter (who, as you can expect introduces her
Dad to new work). My daughter managed to get the auther to autograph
Great House, and presentewd it to me on my birthday. So far, the setting
is the Upper West Side of Manhattan, where I have lived for most of my
life. The narrator is an author, as are many in the ´hood´´.
>
> Probably, one of these will suit you, dpending on your interests.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Care to share some of the recent books you have read?
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wayback71@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"
> >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But Curtis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago,
> > which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire,
only
> > Smoke.
> > > >
> > > > Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims. Several
> > other women have as well. Read the book and then let us know what
you
> > think.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then
how
> > do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as
> > gossip?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course if you read the book and found some specific places
> > where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am
> > assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement
> > about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging
it
> > based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not
reasonable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he
backed
> > Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the
> > book came out. So I think we can drop the tired "innuendo" routine
now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What Rick is "prone" to is having an open mind. He has
created
> > a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened
as
> > well as the currently "whatever". Not too shabby IMO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Although we have come down in different places concerning
> > spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that
lead
> > him to his own different conclusions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
> >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one.
But
> > then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not
facts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
> > > > > > > > And, like most other people without badges,
> > > > > > > > has no way of getting in. And do you really
> > > > > > > > think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
> > > > > > > > let someone take pictures? You ask for
> > > > > > > > evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
> > > > > > > > can supply. Therefore, for you the situation
> > > > > > > > doesn't exist. If that works for you, great.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sal
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
  Alex or I will promptly delete any such
> material if posted.
>
Girly men.  (oops, sorry)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Talk about an off stage presence!  This Kat, whoever she is, from Oregan
> has spawned another round of FFL's most time honored debate.  This time
> presenting the case to Kat.  Have we gotten to the closing arguments
> yet?  I've been posting here for many years, and never gotten the
> respect Kat has gotten after about two posts.  What's up with that?

Steve, your respect roots run deep here with me.  You were one of the first to 
respond to emotional nuance in what I posted here and for that you will always 
be on my top 5 list of people I write for here.




> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> > >
> > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN
> EVER
> > > inDOMES
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book
> trying
> > > to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy for
> "My
> > > mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"
> >
> >
> > You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years, meeting
> almost all the so-called "saints" under the sun that he is all mixed up
> :-)
> > In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read a
> book to know the content.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[seventhray1]

I'll cast my lot with Kinky Friedman.

http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/index.html



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"
danfriedman2002@ wrote:
> >
> > I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The
taxis weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi
hijcking´, where vehicles are hijacked to be set on fire as a
blockade.
> > So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is
how I happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time
it was Egypt. I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops
should just follow my itinerary.
> >
> Ha! "The name is Friedman, Dan T. Friedman. The T is for Trouble, my
middle name..."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[seventhray1]

Talk about an off stage presence!  This Kat, whoever she is, from Oregan
has spawned another round of FFL's most time honored debate.  This time
presenting the case to Kat.  Have we gotten to the closing arguments
yet?  I've been posting here for many years, and never gotten the
respect Kat has gotten after about two posts.  What's up with that?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN
EVER
> > inDOMES
> >
> >
> >
> > As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book
trying
> > to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy for
"My
> > mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"
>
>
> You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years, meeting
almost all the so-called "saints" under the sun that he is all mixed up
:-)
> In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read a
book to know the content.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats & Scandal

[seventhray1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGMESM8JKOg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans 
wrote:
>
>
>
> I took some time off to stop reacting, start cleaning out my house
after years of letting things pile up, mow the lawn for the first time,
and revel in the joy of silence of not having my teenagers over the July
4th weekend. Â
> I can say today that I am grateful for the opportunity to be received
by Amma and experience what I did at the Amma event. Â In trying to
make sense of it all and put it in some objective context, I have spent
hours online (in part, educating myself in the cursory fashion that the
internet facilitates so well) on Hinduism, the "guru tradition", and
various individual gurus. I have spent hours reading posts elucidating a
vast range in experiences. Yes, my fear base  and  "trust
issues" were triggered, which you picked up on.  Yes, this
experience has reinforced certain beliefs that I already had, but was
questioning.
> However, today, I simply cannot judge or choose to negate anyone's
experience or path...it is certainly not my place and I am most
certainly not qualified. I have spent my entire life believing that I
was not qualified to live my life and did not deserve to be here. Â I
want relief. Â I think that basicallygiven what I was told prior
to attending the Amma visit, I set up internal and high expectations
that were, of course, not met. Â
> I am in "recovery" on all levels since being laid off in January (by
the grace of God)...my stress level was so high that I can't even
articulate the despair and desperation, physical, mental and emotional
exhaustion I was experiencing. After 6 months off, I am just starting to
be able to function again - every month, another layer of stress
exfoliates and beacon of light shines through.
> I am coming out of 18 years of working like a dog for corporate
america, raising my kids (the last five being the teenage years - it's
lucky we fall madly in love when they are born and little), realizing as
I spiraled into deep depression and pain on all levels, that I have to
completely change my way of living and relating to the world and
myself.Â
> Yes, I went to Amma praying for a miracle or two...desperately wanting
to "feel" what unconditional love and compassion felt like on a personal
level. Â Yes, I was "hit" with energy - or shakti, persay - it didn't
feel personal. Â I felt betrayed to some extent by the whole
production for many reasons I've already articulated, but in the end, I
am glad I went and the primary lesson that was reiterated to me was that
I am left with myself and my relationship to the world, the Universe,
God. Â Establishing and claiming my identity and the right to "be" on
this planet in this lifetime is hard for me.
> What I have realized (and this is not the first time) is that I was
again searching outside myself for the answer - that I wanted relief and
self-forgiveness from something or someone else who was more evolved
than I - that I have never felt self-love or worthy, or complete in any
fashion. Â I was raised by narcissists, began to "self-hate" at a
very early age and have attempted to "escape" through a variety of ways
my entire life.
> I hate the word "should"; I am tired of being told what and how to be.
 I don't want to follow anyone.  I get to decide - that is my
birthright. I am tired of reacting rebelliously in an effort to
differentiate instead of with respect to self and others.
> I have decided that I cannot worry about how many more thousands of
lifetimes I will be "condemned" to return to the planet to work through
my karma, nor do I want to aspire to "transcending" or "enlightenment"
or "preparing for the afterlife" as a primary goal, and in particular as
defined by others. I want to love my life now and attain and maintain a
state of gratitude. Â I want to feel a connected, peaceful, engaged
part of life and revel in the joy of being human. Â
> "It's a short trip from cradle to the crypt." Â
> Ya see, Â perhaps I am integrating the experience despite myself
and for myself. Â Tee Hee.
> Â Â Â
>
> --- On Mon, 7/4/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
>
> From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@...
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats &
Scandal
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 1:04 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote:
> >
> > It appears that almost without exception..the various guru
organizations devolve to authoritarian regimes in the endregardless
of the "enlightenment" factorguru's appear to all demonstrate that
they are human in the end.>
> > I realize the Amma followers believe she is "benign"but full-on
devotees are different and exhibit many of the characteristics and
detail many of the experiences in the few accounts available of a "cult
follower" than "peripheral follower

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:54 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement
> 
>  
> 
>  I don't think there's any problem with posting links to copyrighted
> content, as any copyright issues would be with the site hosting the
> copyrighted content, not a post on FFL linking to it. In the future, if
> someone wants to post a document like the one that gave rise to this thread,
> they should upload it to a site like Scribd and post a link to it.
> 
>  
> 
> All of Nabby's crop circle photos are copyrighted. Should he stop posting
> them? Should we delete the ones he's posted?

The photos are hosted offsite, on the copyright holder's own website, so I 
don't see a problem. Also, there is no scary language about no redistribution. 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:54 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

 

 I don't think there's any problem with posting links to copyrighted
content, as any copyright issues would be with the site hosting the
copyrighted content, not a post on FFL linking to it. In the future, if
someone wants to post a document like the one that gave rise to this thread,
they should upload it to a site like Scribd and post a link to it.

 

All of Nabby's crop circle photos are copyrighted. Should he stop posting
them? Should we delete the ones he's posted?

[FairfieldLife] Re: squid

[fflmod]

Delicious. When I was a kid, there was a tradition that we kids could choose 
what we wanted to have for dinner for our birthdays. It was usually squid. Took 
a long time for my mother and grandmother to prepare it, so not a common item.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> My Philippina friends gave me some squid for lunch today, so I'm posting this 
> to memorialize the event. I wouldn't make a habit of eating the creatures. 
> They asked me if I liked squid, and I said "As long as it's dead".
> ...
> It turns out that squid, cuttlefish, and octopi are highly intelligent 
> animals, ranking right up there with the higher primates in problem solving. 
> That octopus that predicted sports events unfortunately died.  I can feature 
> a big tanks in the Vegas Hotels geared up to make predictions.
> 
> http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/brian_mccarty_squid.jpg
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Bhairitu]

And there are blogs and sites that will let you post the whole article 
if you give them credit and a link.  They will state it with the article 
if they have such a policy.  In general unless you see something like 
that just post the link and maybe a line or two of the article so folks 
can see if they want to read the entire article.  The latter is 
considered fair use.

One forum I'm on started banning full article posts last year because of 
these issues (though I noticed it is not policed like it was originally).

On 07/08/2011 07:50 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
> http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/08/7043349-us-official-says-pre-infected-computer-tech-entering-country
> There is fair use, where one can quote snippets from something. Looks 
> othrwise like posting will have to be done to wikileaks or other sites on the 
> outlaw side of copyright conventions with a link from FFL.
>
> This is a Scientology tactic, to copyright stuff like this. The average 
> person reading something like this would think it was nuts.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
>> wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
 If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
 "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes
 included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
 now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
 material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
 posted.
>>> Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO
>>> community announcement stuff for years, and it's never been
>>> a problem. My inclination would be to just keep things as
>>> they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in
>>> the archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.
>> Did you read this paragraph?
>>
>> "As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts 
>> without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo! 
>> has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another 
>> notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's 
>> intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in 
>> not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the 
>> designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well 
>> as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID."
>>
>> Sounds like once you get on Yahoo's sh*t list, it's two
>> strikes and you're out.
>>
>> Which may mean that we shouldn't be posting *anything*
>> that's copyrighted, including articles from newspapers.
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
>  Can we post youtubes of Lesley Gore's, "You don't own me," or
> "It's my Party?"  How about, Sheena Easton, singing, "For your
> eyes only?"
 
I don't think there's any problem with posting links to copyrighted content, as 
any copyright issues would be with the site hosting the copyrighted content, 
not a post on FFL linking to it. In the future, if someone wants to post a 
document like the one that gave rise to this thread, they should upload it to a 
site like Scribd and post a link to it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement-Attn Rick

[curtisdeltablues]

Hey Bob,

I just wanted to acknowledge that you showed up here with a ton of personality 
and attitude and hit the ground running with contributions.  You are a 
substantial voice, although I don't have a handle on your POV yet.  But it is 
not because you haven't been in here swinging, showing up with personal asides 
like the wife you snore through meditation with.  All good stuff to project an 
online persona, a character.  I don't know the boundaries of where it ends and 
you begin yet, but I am tuned in.  Just a fist bump across cyberspace. I'm 
read'n. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

There is fair use, where one can quote snippets from something. Looks othrwise 
like posting will have to be done to wikileaks or other sites on the outlaw 
side of copyright conventions with a link from FFL.

This is a Scientology tactic, to copyright stuff like this. The average person 
reading something like this would think it was nuts.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
> > > "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes
> > > included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
> > > now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
> > > material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
> > > posted.
> > 
> > Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO
> > community announcement stuff for years, and it's never been
> > a problem. My inclination would be to just keep things as
> > they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in
> > the archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.
> 
> Did you read this paragraph?
> 
> "As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts 
> without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo! has 
> or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another notification 
> alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's intellectual 
> property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in not only the 
> suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the designated owner, but 
> the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well as the deactivation of 
> your Yahoo! ID."
> 
> Sounds like once you get on Yahoo's sh*t list, it's two
> strikes and you're out.
> 
> Which may mean that we shouldn't be posting *anything*
> that's copyrighted, including articles from newspapers.
>

[FairfieldLife] More Cybersecurity nonsense

[Bhairitu]

Be afraid!  Be very afraid!  Your DVD player may contain spyware!

"Confirming years of warnings from government and private security 
experts, a top Homeland Security official has acknowledged that computer 
hardware and software is already being imported to the United States 
preloaded with spyware and security-sabotaging components."

Read article:
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/08/7043349-us-official-says-pre-infected-computer-tech-entering-country

And here we all thought it was the NSA that had Microsoft, Apple and 
Linux put those back doors into the computers.

Let's see first they'll want our guns and then they'll want our 
electronics.  I'd say keep both and use the first when they come after 
the second. :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement-Attn Rick

[whynotnow7]

I think Rick and Alex should apply for political asylum in France.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> Rick,
> 
> As an admirer of your work, I hope its alright to make a few suggestions. 
> 
> 1. In case this is a trend rather than a one off should, willing and able, 
> posters contribute something to help cover related costs?
> 
> 2. Would it be advisable for FFL to join the ACLU and post its membership?
> 
> 3. Obviously the TMO has representatives  lurking or reading and possibly 
> posting
> on FFL. Any reasonable person knows FFL had or has absolutely no intent to 
> infringe anyones copyright. 
> For this reason would it make sense to prepare a  contingency file that 
> includes 
> an appropriate press release with a qualified list of national editors that 
> can 
> be contacted if needed? If this is a trend and a strategy of TMO its 
> obviously a 
> free speech, not copyright, issue. 
> 
> 4. Should an attorney be retained to help draft and send a letter to YAHOO 
> stating FFL policy concerning copyright, cc: TMO, and then post it on FFL?
> 
> 5. Could a contingency plan be implemented that includes posting a non yahoo 
> contact email address that posters can use to find out where you will reopen 
> FFL, such as Google, if Yahoo shuts us out? 
> 
> Thank you and Alex for all your work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Duveyoung  
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 3:41:30 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement
> 
>  
> Rick,
> 
> I'd caution ya to go through the files and cull out the bad ones now, and I'd 
> like to hear what you will do to any poster who posts copyrighted  material 
> on 
> purpose in order to close down FFL.I ask, because there's irky-jerks here 
> who would do just that.  Probably most MMY photos are easy to frame as 
> copyrighted material, so you might have to dump almost all of the 
> photos.onto some  other public server that can be linked to from 
> FFLor?
> 
> One thing's for sure, Yahoo will just flat out dump ya in short order if they 
> have to handle this issue again, and they'll let you take MUM to court and 
> get 
> an order from the court to re-instate FFL, before they'd even consider 
> activation.
> 
> So they've got the power and will use it to lessen their frictionseven if 
> they can see that there is no loss to MUM by such publishing. 
> 
> 
> Edg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On  07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > "Here is the
> > > "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> > 
> > You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
> > ya. ;-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[obbajeeba]

I understand the copyright concern. I promise, I am not a troll, even though, I 
tend to lurk now and again.
 Can we post youtubes of Lesley Gore's, "You don't own me," or "It's my Party?" 
 How about, Sheena Easton, singing, "For your eyes only?"

Oh dear. Well, I for one am glad to have been able to read about the story and 
it helped me understand more about things, instead of the "hush little 
children's ears are near, so do not tell," type treatment. Enlightenment comes 
from knowledge. Knowledge is growth. 

Fahrenheit 451! 











--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Yahoo! Copyright [mailto:copyright@...] 
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:32 PM
> To: rick@...
> Subject: Notice of Infringement
> Importance: High
> 
>  
> 
> RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife 
> 
>  
> 
> Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!") in
> compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that you have
> submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
> proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
> Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
> the material in question at:
> 
>  
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1 
> 
> "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> 
>  
> 
> Yahoo! respects the rights of both its users and the owners, and rights
> holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
> Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
> disabled access to the copyrighted material in question. 
> 
>  
> 
> As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
> without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo!
> has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another
> notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's
> intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in
> not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the
> designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well
> as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID. 
> 
>  
> 
> If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
> Foundation USA, Inc's agent directly, Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent
> may be contacted at:
> 
>  
> 
> Email: jrs@... 
> 
>  
> 
> If you believe that you were designated by Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> agent by mistake or misidentification, or if you believe that you have not
> infringed the copyrights of Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc, you may submit a
> sworn counter-notification as to the mistake or misidentification. To be
> effective, counter-notifications must be in writing and include: 
> 
>  
> 
> 1.Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
> access has been disabled, including the location at which the material
> appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;
> 2.A statement under penalty of perjury that you have a good faith
> belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or
> misidentification;
> 3.Your name, address and telephone number, and a statement that you
> consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial
> district in which the address provided by you is located (or if the address
> provided by you is outside the United States, that you consent to the
> jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for any judicial district in
> which Yahoo! may be found), and that you will accept service of process from
> the complaining party or its agent; and
> 4.Your physical or electronic signature on the counter-notification.
> 
>  
> 
> Any counter-notification must be submitted to Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent in
> accordance with the contact information provided below, which is also
> available at:
> 
>  
> 
>http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html   
> 
>  
> 
> Please be advised that Yahoo! will provide a copy of such a
> counter-notification (including your name, address, telephone number and any
> other contact information provided) to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> agent. 
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Copyright/IP Agent, Yahoo! Inc. 
> 
> copyright@... 
> 
> 
> 
> c/o Yahoo! Inc.
> 
> 701 First Ave.
> 
> Sunnyvale, CA 94089
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
> > > > "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes
> > > > included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
> > > > now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
> > > > material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
> > > > posted.
> > > 
> > > Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO
> > > community announcement stuff for years, and it's never been
> > > a problem. My inclination would be to just keep things as
> > > they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in
> > > the archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.
> > 
> > Did you read this paragraph?
> > 
> > "As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts 
> > without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo! 
> > has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another 
> > notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's 
> > intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in 
> > not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the 
> > designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as 
> > well as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID."
> > 
> > Sounds like once you get on Yahoo's sh*t list, it's two
> > strikes and you're out.
> > 
> > Which may mean that we shouldn't be posting *anything*
> > that's copyrighted, including articles from newspapers.
> 
> Yeah, I missed that. Rick has searched the archives and deleted a bunch of 
> stuff that specifically said it should not be redistributed. Of course, if 
> FFL gets shut down, it will simply be recreated under new ownership with 
> stricter rules to prevent it being shut down again.

Well, let's see if we can keep that from happening. Might
be a good idea to email the do.rk; I don't think he reads
much of the traffic in between the articles he posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search 
> > for "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" 
> > (quotes included) and look at the cached copy while it 
> > still exists. From now on, everyone should refrain from
> > posting any copyright TMO material. Alex or I will 
> > promptly delete any such material if posted.
> 
> Fascinating that this letter is what set them off, eh?
> 
> A reminder that this is exactly what WikiLeaks is for.
> If they're so sensitive about their "king" being 
> certified as a liar by one of his own jesters, we
> should make sure that the letter exists there in
> perpetuity.

So you've changed your mind and now think the TMO is
not only going to be around in perpetuity, but
will grow in importance, enough to make it essential
to preserve information about King Tony's marital
status on WikiLeaks, along with government secrets,
the Iraq War Logs, State Department cables, and data
concerning the detainees at Guantanamo?

That's quite a turnaround on your part. What could
have inspired it? Quite recently you predicted the TMO
wasn't long for this world, and that nobody would even
remember who MMY was in a decade or so.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement-Attn Rick

[Bob Price]

Rick,

As an admirer of your work, I hope its alright to make a few suggestions. 

1. In case this is a trend rather than a one off should, willing and able, 
posters contribute something to help cover related costs?

2. Would it be advisable for FFL to join the ACLU and post its membership?

3. Obviously the TMO has representatives  lurking or reading and possibly 
posting
on FFL. Any reasonable person knows FFL had or has absolutely no intent to 
infringe anyones copyright. 
For this reason would it make sense to prepare a  contingency file that 
includes 
an appropriate press release with a qualified list of national editors that can 
be contacted if needed? If this is a trend and a strategy of TMO its obviously 
a 
free speech, not copyright, issue. 

4. Should an attorney be retained to help draft and send a letter to YAHOO 
stating FFL policy concerning copyright, cc: TMO, and then post it on FFL?

5. Could a contingency plan be implemented that includes posting a non yahoo 
contact email address that posters can use to find out where you will reopen 
FFL, such as Google, if Yahoo shuts us out? 

Thank you and Alex for all your work.




From: Duveyoung  
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 3:41:30 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

 
Rick,

I'd caution ya to go through the files and cull out the bad ones now, and I'd 
like to hear what you will do to any poster who posts copyrighted  material on 
purpose in order to close down FFL.I ask, because there's irky-jerks here 
who would do just that.  Probably most MMY photos are easy to frame as 
copyrighted material, so you might have to dump almost all of the 
photos.onto some  other public server that can be linked to from FFLor?

One thing's for sure, Yahoo will just flat out dump ya in short order if they 
have to handle this issue again, and they'll let you take MUM to court and get 
an order from the court to re-instate FFL, before they'd even consider 
activation.

So they've got the power and will use it to lessen their frictionseven if 
they can see that there is no loss to MUM by such publishing. 


Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On  07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > "Here is the
> > "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> 
> You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
> ya. ;-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
> > > "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes
> > > included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
> > > now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
> > > material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
> > > posted.
> > 
> > Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO
> > community announcement stuff for years, and it's never been
> > a problem. My inclination would be to just keep things as
> > they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in
> > the archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.
> 
> Did you read this paragraph?
> 
> "As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts 
> without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo! has 
> or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another notification 
> alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's intellectual 
> property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in not only the 
> suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the designated owner, but 
> the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well as the deactivation of 
> your Yahoo! ID."
> 
> Sounds like once you get on Yahoo's sh*t list, it's two
> strikes and you're out.
> 
> Which may mean that we shouldn't be posting *anything*
> that's copyrighted, including articles from newspapers.

Yeah, I missed that. Rick has searched the archives and deleted a bunch of 
stuff that specifically said it should not be redistributed. Of course, if FFL 
gets shut down, it will simply be recreated under new ownership with stricter 
rules to prevent it being shut down again.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Happy Man

[m 13]

Thx .Awesome  vids. THIS is what it is all about. getting to this point. 
Big Selah.

-M

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[m 13]

Me.who DOESN'T ?

How could you live without hearing from God and leaves and trees and the wind?
Not living at all if you ask me,but heyIMHO

-M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search 
> for "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" 
> (quotes included) and look at the cached copy while it 
> still exists. From now on, everyone should refrain from
> posting any copyright TMO material. Alex or I will 
> promptly delete any such material if posted.

Fascinating that this letter is what set them off, eh?

A reminder that this is exactly what WikiLeaks is for.
If they're so sensitive about their "king" being 
certified as a liar by one of his own jesters, we
should make sure that the letter exists there in
perpetuity.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
> > "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes
> > included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
> > now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
> > material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
> > posted.
> 
> Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO
> community announcement stuff for years, and it's never been
> a problem. My inclination would be to just keep things as
> they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in
> the archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.

Did you read this paragraph?

"As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts without 
notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo! has or may 
have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another notification alleging 
the unauthorized posting by you of another party's intellectual property in 
connection with any Yahoo! service may result in not only the suspension of all 
Yahoo! Groups for which you are the designated owner, but the termination of 
all of your Yahoo! services as well as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID."

Sounds like once you get on Yahoo's sh*t list, it's two
strikes and you're out.

Which may mean that we shouldn't be posting *anything*
that's copyrighted, including articles from newspapers.

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

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47 RoryGoff 
43 turquoiseb 
37 whynotnow7 
31 Yifu 
29 richardjwilliamstexas 
27 nablusoss1008 
26 sparaig 
25 seventhray1 
25 Vaj 
25 Rick Archer 
24 Bhairitu 
20 curtisdeltablues 
17 Ravi Yogi 
16 raunchydog 
16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
16 Bob Price 
15 danfriedman2002 
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14 "do.rflex" 
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11 Robert 
10 Tom Pall 
 9 emptybill 
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 7 Buck 
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 6 maskedzebra 
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 4 mainstream20016 
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 3 merlin 
 3 wle...@aol.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[whynotnow7]

HA HA HA HA - nice riff Rory! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Hmm... "Maharishi vs. Ricardo Montalban" ... I can see it now!
> 
> SCENE: Heaven-on-Earth, aka Fantasy Island, with RICARDO MONTALBAN as MR. 
> ROARKE and MMY as the diminutive TATTOO:
> 
> MMY: De plane, boss! De cosmic plane! Let us ring de bell of invincibility 
> for every nation. Hm?
> 
> Ricardo: Ahh, here come our current guests. You see, Tattoo, everyone who 
> comes to Fantasy Island gets what they most passionately desire... but not 
> everyone is prepared to admit what they really want! 
> 
> MMY: Deserve and then desire! It is easy, yes?
> 
> Ricardo: It is easy, No, Tattoo. If it were always easy, we wouldn't have a 
> show, would we! And where's the fun in that?
> 
> (and so on)
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Ohhh...and here I thought it was the print version of "Star Trek: The 
> > Wrath of Khan", but you guys were talking about Maharishi vs. Ricardo 
> > Montalban. OK, starting to make sense now...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith 
> > > Bourque. Have you read it?
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
> > > > discussing?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > K
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[whynotnow7]

I hope that Rick resolves this as a single issue, which is all it is. Paleeze 
let's not all squawk about how we are the target of the TMO. Its embarrassing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I was wondering how long it would take the Varma Crime Family to attack 
> FFL probably in hopes of eliminating it   You can probably get away with 
> links to TMO articles but they're trying to outlaw that too.  Note that 
> if I post a link to news article I often just quote the opening because 
> some news bureaus don't mind that and in fact some have done an 
> interesting thing that if you copy just part of the article it will add 
> the link to the article.  Those act as a "teaser."  Basically you should 
> never quote a full article without permission.  If the post in question 
> only posted a sentence or two then it should be construed as "fair use."
> 
> On 07/08/2011 02:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Yahoo! Copyright [mailto:copyright@...]
> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:32 PM
> > To: rick@...
> > Subject: Notice of Infringement
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> >
> > RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife
> >
> >
> >
> > Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!") in
> > compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that you have
> > submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
> > proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
> > Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
> > the material in question at:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1
> >
> > "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! respects the rights of both its users and the owners, and rights
> > holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
> > Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
> > disabled access to the copyrighted material in question.
> >
> >
> >
> > As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
> > without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo!
> > has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another
> > notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's
> > intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in
> > not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the
> > designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well
> > as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
> > Foundation USA, Inc's agent directly, Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent
> > may be contacted at:
> >
> >
> >
> >  Email: jrs@...
> >
> >
> >
> > If you believe that you were designated by Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> > agent by mistake or misidentification, or if you believe that you have not
> > infringed the copyrights of Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc, you may submit a
> > sworn counter-notification as to the mistake or misidentification. To be
> > effective, counter-notifications must be in writing and include:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.  Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
> > access has been disabled, including the location at which the material
> > appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;
> > 2.  A statement under penalty of perjury that you have a good faith
> > belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or
> > misidentification;
> > 3.  Your name, address and telephone number, and a statement that you
> > consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial
> > district in which the address provided by you is located (or if the address
> > provided by you is outside the United States, that you consent to the
> > jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for any judicial district in
> > which Yahoo! may be found), and that you will accept service of process from
> > the complaining party or its agent; and
> > 4.  Your physical or electronic signature on the counter-notification.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any counter-notification must be submitted to Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent in
> > accordance with the contact information provided below, which is also
> > available at:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Please be advised that Yahoo! will provide a copy of such a
> > counter-notification (including your name, address, telephone number and any
> > other contact information provided) to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> > agent.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Copyright/IP Agent, Yahoo! Inc.
> >
> > copyright@...
> >
> > 
> >
> > c/o Yahoo! Inc.
> >
> > 701

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Duveyoung]

Rick,

I'd caution ya to go through the files and cull out the bad ones now, and I'd 
like to hear what you will do to any poster who posts copyrighted material on 
purpose in order to close down FFL.I ask, because there's irky-jerks here 
who would do just that.  Probably most MMY photos are easy to frame as 
copyrighted material, so you might have to dump almost all of the 
photos.onto some other public server that can be linked to from FFLor?

One thing's for sure, Yahoo will just flat out dump ya in short order if they 
have to handle this issue again, and they'll let you take MUM to court and get 
an order from the court to re-instate FFL, before they'd even consider 
activation.

So they've got the power and will use it to lessen their frictionseven if 
they can see that there is no loss to MUM by such publishing.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > "Here is the
> > "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> 
> You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
> ya. ;-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Return of the nickelodeon?

[Bhairitu]

Vudu.com that I occasionally rent streaming movies from to watch on my 
Bluray player had a 99 cent feature where daily they would offer a film 
for 99 cents.  Recently some of these were fairly new releases.  For the 
last two days they have been offering 5 cent movies.  Today's 5 cent 
feature is "Jumper."   You can also watch Vudu on a computer too.  Now I 
do need to warn you that last year Walmart bought Vudu so if you hate 
Walmart then you may not want to patronize Vudu.

http://www.vudu.com/movies/Movies.html

And I don't know  how long the 5 cent deals will last.

Since my Acer a500 Android tablet got upgraded to 3.1 the other night I 
now have the Google Videos app installed.  Supposedly this will allow me 
to rent movies off the Android Market to watch.  I haven't tried it yet 
because I wanted to pick up a mini-HDMI cable so when I do try it I can 
finish the film by hooking up the tablet to my big screen TV.  Well 
unfortunately Fry's was out of reasonably priced $10 min-HDMI cables and 
people had also cleaned out the $13 ones too. A clerk even checked to 
see if there were more "in the back."  HDMI cables are nothing but wire 
work the same if you spend $10 on or $50.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[danfriedman2002]

Curtis,

I grok your feelings, but, as different people are differrent, my feelings for 
Maharishi are neither complex, nor conflicted. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> That was a nice response Dan, thanks.
> 
> The funny thing is I didn't expect the book to have the effect on me it had.  
> It surprised me.  I had as many or more preconceptions as you have raised 
> here, so I really shouldn't be on some high horse about it with you.  I 
> expected it to give me a blasphemous giggle and that was about it.
> 
> I think she took so long because it took her decades to find the right tone 
> to express her complex and often conflicted feelings.  The last thing I 
> expected was for the book to make me feel closer to the guy with this window 
> on his more easy to relate to normal life.  Maharishi was a little older than 
> I am now when he had this relationship, so I feel like I can understand him 
> better than I could in my more idealistic 20's.  And since my own feelings 
> about the guy are both complex and somewhat conflicted, it rang true for me 
> and validated a lot of those feelings.
> 
> I appreciate your hearing me out.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Curtis,
> > 
> > I appreciate your balanced review. I think I´ll hold off for now. I may be 
> > one of those who you´ve honestly described as ¨it isn't everybody's cup of 
> > tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that don't involve 
> > mischaracterizing it ahead of time.¨
> > 
> > Thank you for providing so much info. I´ll be sure to let you know if I 
> > change my mind again (based on further info, it is not that I´m generally 
> > indecisive).
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to 
> > > be referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think 
> > > she was brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her 
> > > and her motivations for writiing it.
> > > 
> > > But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons 
> > > that don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curtis,
> > > > 
> > > > Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
> > > > arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
> > > > according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
> > > > 
> > > > But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
> > > > Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
> > > > from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids 
> > > > > any discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any 
> > > > > gossip in the book.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story 
> > > > > too.  I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave 
> > > > > you a negative impression, but having read it myself I can report 
> > > > > that your concerns are unfounded.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report 
> > > > > after you have read this important insight into an important man in 
> > > > > all our lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it 
> > > > > report that they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But Curtis,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, 
> > > > > > > > > which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not 
> > > > > > > > > fire, only Smoke.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several 
> > > > > > > other women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know 
> > > > > > > what you think.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then 
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[danfriedman2002]

Wish I could live uo to that reputation. In fact, as the current trouble 
unfolded, I secured myself in my hotel, and haven´t gone out. You will probably 
notice the vast # of posts (for me). That´s because I´m self-sequestered for 
self-preservation.

When my posts stop, that hopefully means that the ´coast is clear´enough to 
venture downtown.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis 
> > weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where 
> > vehicles are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade.
> > So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is how I 
> > happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time it was 
> > Egypt. I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops should just 
> > follow my itinerary.
> > 
> Ha! "The name is Friedman, Dan T. Friedman. The T is for Trouble, my middle 
> name..."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
> "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes
> included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
> now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
> material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
> posted.

Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO community announcement 
stuff for years, and it's never been a problem. My inclination would be to just 
keep things as they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in the 
archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > "Here is the
> > "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> 
> You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
> ya. ;-)


Not only that but Rick posted instructions for obtaing the article from Google 
long after he received Yahoo!'s letter. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[danfriedman2002]

Yesterday, I finished ¨Songs of >Kabir¨translated by Arvind Krishna Mehrotra, 
with a Preface by Wendy Doniger. I found it delightful, full of wisdom, and 
FUNNY¨. I,m certain that others on this Forem would enjoy the read.

I began¨Great House¨, and am on page29. The author, Nicole Krauss previously 
wrote ¨The Histoy of Love¨, which I loved. Both were given to me by my daughter 
(who, as you can expect introduces her Dad to new work). My daughter managed to 
get the auther to autograph Great House, and presentewd it to me on my 
birthday. So far, the setting is the Upper West Side of Manhattan, where I have 
lived for most of my life. The narrator is an author, as are many in the 
´hood´´.

Probably, one of these will suit you, dpending on your interests.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Care to share some of the recent books you have read?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"
>  wrote:
> >
> > I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wayback71@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"
>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > But Curtis,
> > > > >
> > > > > What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago,
> which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only
> Smoke.
> > >
> > > Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims. Several
> other women have as well. Read the book and then let us know what you
> think.
> > > >
> > > > So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how
> do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as
> gossip?
> > > >
> > > > Of course if you read the book and found some specific places
> where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am
> assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement
> about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it
> based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not reasonable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed
> Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the
> book came out. So I think we can drop the tired "innuendo" routine now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What Rick is "prone" to is having an open mind. He has created
> a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as
> well as the currently "whatever". Not too shabby IMO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Although we have come down in different places concerning
> spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead
> him to his own different conclusions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
>  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But
> then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
> > > > > > > And, like most other people without badges,
> > > > > > > has no way of getting in. And do you really
> > > > > > > think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
> > > > > > > let someone take pictures? You ask for
> > > > > > > evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
> > > > > > > can supply. Therefore, for you the situation
> > > > > > > doesn't exist. If that works for you, great.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sal
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[danfriedman2002]

Rick,

no


P.S. Your predjudices are apparant.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of danfriedman2002
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:39 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
> inDOMES
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
> 
> You mean you don't actually read them. You just pass judgment on them.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[curtisdeltablues]

That was a nice response Dan, thanks.

The funny thing is I didn't expect the book to have the effect on me it had.  
It surprised me.  I had as many or more preconceptions as you have raised here, 
so I really shouldn't be on some high horse about it with you.  I expected it 
to give me a blasphemous giggle and that was about it.

I think she took so long because it took her decades to find the right tone to 
express her complex and often conflicted feelings.  The last thing I expected 
was for the book to make me feel closer to the guy with this window on his more 
easy to relate to normal life.  Maharishi was a little older than I am now when 
he had this relationship, so I feel like I can understand him better than I 
could in my more idealistic 20's.  And since my own feelings about the guy are 
both complex and somewhat conflicted, it rang true for me and validated a lot 
of those feelings.

I appreciate your hearing me out.  




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
wrote:
>
> Curtis,
> 
> I appreciate your balanced review. I think I´ll hold off for now. I may be 
> one of those who you´ve honestly described as ¨it isn't everybody's cup of 
> tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that don't involve mischaracterizing 
> it ahead of time.¨
> 
> Thank you for providing so much info. I´ll be sure to let you know if I 
> change my mind again (based on further info, it is not that I´m generally 
> indecisive).
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to 
> > be referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think 
> > she was brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her and 
> > her motivations for writiing it.
> > 
> > But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons 
> > that don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Curtis,
> > > 
> > > Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
> > > arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
> > > according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
> > > 
> > > But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
> > > Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
> > > from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids 
> > > > any discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip 
> > > > in the book.
> > > > 
> > > > Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story 
> > > > too.  I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you 
> > > > a negative impression, but having read it myself I can report that your 
> > > > concerns are unfounded.
> > > > 
> > > > No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
> > > > 
> > > > Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report 
> > > > after you have read this important insight into an important man in all 
> > > > our lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report 
> > > > that they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But Curtis,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, 
> > > > > > > > which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not 
> > > > > > > > fire, only Smoke.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several 
> > > > > > other women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what 
> > > > > > you think.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how 
> > > > > > > do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts 
> > > > > > > as gossip?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Of course if you read the book and found some specific places 
> > > > > > > where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I 
> > > > > > > am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this 
> > > > > > > judgement about her book without having read it.  You know kind 
> > > > > > > of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

[Bhairitu]

On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> "Here is the
> "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"

You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
ya. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

[Bhairitu]

I was wondering how long it would take the Varma Crime Family to attack 
FFL probably in hopes of eliminating it   You can probably get away with 
links to TMO articles but they're trying to outlaw that too.  Note that 
if I post a link to news article I often just quote the opening because 
some news bureaus don't mind that and in fact some have done an 
interesting thing that if you copy just part of the article it will add 
the link to the article.  Those act as a "teaser."  Basically you should 
never quote a full article without permission.  If the post in question 
only posted a sentence or two then it should be construed as "fair use."

On 07/08/2011 02:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> From: Yahoo! Copyright [mailto:copyri...@yahoo-inc.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:32 PM
> To: r...@searchsummit.com
> Subject: Notice of Infringement
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife
>
>
>
> Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!") in
> compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that you have
> submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
> proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
> Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
> the material in question at:
>
>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1
>
> "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
>
>
>
> Yahoo! respects the rights of both its users and the owners, and rights
> holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
> Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
> disabled access to the copyrighted material in question.
>
>
>
> As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
> without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo!
> has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another
> notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's
> intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in
> not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the
> designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well
> as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID.
>
>
>
> If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
> Foundation USA, Inc's agent directly, Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent
> may be contacted at:
>
>
>
>  Email: j...@shuttleworthlaw.com
>
>
>
> If you believe that you were designated by Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> agent by mistake or misidentification, or if you believe that you have not
> infringed the copyrights of Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc, you may submit a
> sworn counter-notification as to the mistake or misidentification. To be
> effective, counter-notifications must be in writing and include:
>
>
>
> 1.Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
> access has been disabled, including the location at which the material
> appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;
> 2.A statement under penalty of perjury that you have a good faith
> belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or
> misidentification;
> 3.Your name, address and telephone number, and a statement that you
> consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial
> district in which the address provided by you is located (or if the address
> provided by you is outside the United States, that you consent to the
> jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for any judicial district in
> which Yahoo! may be found), and that you will accept service of process from
> the complaining party or its agent; and
> 4.Your physical or electronic signature on the counter-notification.
>
>
>
> Any counter-notification must be submitted to Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent in
> accordance with the contact information provided below, which is also
> available at:
>
>
>
> http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html
>
>
>
> Please be advised that Yahoo! will provide a copy of such a
> counter-notification (including your name, address, telephone number and any
> other contact information provided) to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> agent.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Copyright/IP Agent, Yahoo! Inc.
>
> copyri...@yahoo-inc.com
>
> 
>
> c/o Yahoo! Inc.
>
> 701 First Ave.
>
> Sunnyvale, CA 94089
>
>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for "Here is the
> "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes included) and look at the
> cached copy while it still exists. From now on, everyone should refrain from
> posting any copyright TMO material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such
> material if posted.


Appealing for readers to find the mentioned post does not favor Rick Archer. 

Let's hope Bevan sues the rumormonger Mr.Archer from A to Z and back.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
wrote:
>
> Rory,
> 
> I don´t see it that way. We certainly have opposing views on ¨troublemakers, 
> difficult people, and the like¨.

* * OK :-)
 
> Not only do we differ philisophically on this point, but I certainly don´t 
> blame myself for the mischief of others.

* * I don't blame myself either, Dan, or anyone else, for that matter. I do try 
to take full responsibility for everything that arises in my awareness, i.e., 
my own "I-particles" or "thought-waves," but there is certainly no blame 
involved. If anything, I sometimes ask their forgiveness for having 
unconsciously "created" them the way they are... :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[nablusoss1008]

> > To: rick@
> > Subject: Notice of Infringement
> > Importance: High
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!") in
> > compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that you have
> > submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
> > proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
> > Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
> > the material in question at:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1 
> > 
> > "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Yahoo! respects the rights of both its users and the owners, and rights
> > holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
> > Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
> > disabled access to the copyrighted material in question. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
> > without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo!
> > has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another
> > notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's
> > intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in
> > not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the
> > designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well
> > as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
> > Foundation USA, Inc's agent directly, Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent
> > may be contacted at:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Email: jrs@ 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > If you believe that you were designated by Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> > agent by mistake or misidentification, or if you believe that you have not
> > infringed the copyrights of Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc, you may submit a
> > sworn counter-notification as to the mistake or misidentification. To be
> > effective, counter-notifications must be in writing and include: 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 1.  Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
> > access has been disabled, including the location at which the material
> > appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;
> > 2.  A statement under penalty of perjury that you have a good faith
> > belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or
> > misidentification;
> > 3.  Your name, address and telephone number, and a statement that you
> > consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial
> > district in which the address provided by you is located (or if the address
> > provided by you is outside the United States, that you consent to the
> > jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for any judicial district in
> > which Yahoo! may be found), and that you will accept service of process from
> > the complaining party or its agent; and
> > 4.  Your physical or electronic signature on the counter-notification.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Any counter-notification must be submitted to Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent in
> > accordance with the contact information provided below, which is also
> > available at:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html   
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Please be advised that Yahoo! will provide a copy of such a
> > counter-notification (including your name, address, telephone number and any
> > other contact information provided) to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> > agent. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Copyright/IP Agent, Yahoo! Inc. 
> > 
> > copyright@ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > c/o Yahoo! Inc.
> > 
> > 701 First Ave.
> > 
> > Sunnyvale, CA 94089

One could only wish this to be the end of Rick's desire to smire Maharishi and 
his legacy as much as possible in this life and on Yahoo! If possible; on any 
other adress on the web.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

[danfriedman2002]

Rory,

I don´t see it that way. We certainly have opposing views on ¨troublemakers, 
difficult people, and the like¨.

Not only do we differ philisophically on this point, but I certainly don´t 
blame myself for the mischief of others.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Rory,
> > 
> > I agree that we are all One, but different.
> 
> Ha! Yes, Dan, can't argue with that! 
> 
> I was just trying to point out that if someone "out there" disturbs us, it's 
> really not "out there" at all, but our own thoughts "in here" that are doing 
> the disturbing :-)
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:37 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

 In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read a book
to know the content.

 

Yeah, unlike Superman, who in an episode I saw back in the 50's could scan a
whole bookshelf with his x-ray vision and know everything in the books in a
few moments.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > 
> > It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist 
> > like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.
> 
> ... or an idiot like that other fellow who recommends it so heartily, Rory 
> Goff :-)

HeHe :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

[danfriedman2002]

oh, oh!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Yahoo! Copyright [mailto:copyright@...] 
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:32 PM
> To: rick@...
> Subject: Notice of Infringement
> Importance: High
> 
>  
> 
> RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife 
> 
>  
> 
> Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!") in
> compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that you have
> submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
> proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
> Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
> the material in question at:
> 
>  
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1 
> 
> "Here is the "proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan"
> 
>  
> 
> Yahoo! respects the rights of both its users and the owners, and rights
> holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
> Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
> disabled access to the copyrighted material in question. 
> 
>  
> 
> As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
> without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo!
> has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another
> notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's
> intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in
> not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the
> designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well
> as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID. 
> 
>  
> 
> If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
> Foundation USA, Inc's agent directly, Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent
> may be contacted at:
> 
>  
> 
> Email: jrs@... 
> 
>  
> 
> If you believe that you were designated by Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
> agent by mistake or misidentification, or if you believe that you have not
> infringed the copyrights of Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc, you may submit a
> sworn counter-notification as to the mistake or misidentification. To be
> effective, counter-notifications must be in writing and include: 
> 
>  
> 
> 1.Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
> access has been disabled, including the location at which the material
> appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

[Rick Archer]

If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for "Here is the
"proof"- Message to Governors from Bevan" (quotes included) and look at the
cached copy while it still exists. From now on, everyone should refrain from
posting any copyright TMO material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such
material if posted.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
wrote:
>
> I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis 
> weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where 
> vehicles are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade.
> So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is how I 
> happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time it was 
> Egypt. I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops should just 
> follow my itinerary.
> 
Ha! "The name is Friedman, Dan T. Friedman. The T is for Trouble, my middle 
name..."

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> I think the best fictional voice on FFL is that of "the wife," as Bob refers 
> to her, who reminds me of "She Who Must Be Obeyed" in John Mortimer's Rumpole 
> series. Definitely a formidable off-stage character.
> 
* ** Good point, feste. A time-honored device! Reminds me of Norm's wife Vera 
on Cheers, or Nile's Maris on Frazier...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
> inDOMES
> 
>  
> 
>  As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book trying
> to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)
> 
>  
> 
> That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy for "My
> mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"


You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years, meeting almost 
all the so-called "saints" under the sun that he is all mixed up :-) 
In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read a book to 
know the content.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[danfriedman2002]

Curtis,

I appreciate your balanced review. I think I´ll hold off for now. I may be one 
of those who you´ve honestly described as ¨it isn't everybody's cup of tea for 
all sorts of legitimate reasons that don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead 
of time.¨

Thank you for providing so much info. I´ll be sure to let you know if I change 
my mind again (based on further info, it is not that I´m generally indecisive).


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to be 
> referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think she 
> was brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her and her 
> motivations for writiing it.
> 
> But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that 
> don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Curtis,
> > 
> > Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
> > arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
> > according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
> > 
> > But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
> > Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
> > from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids any 
> > > discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip in the 
> > > book.
> > > 
> > > Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story too.  
> > > I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you a 
> > > negative impression, but having read it myself I can report that your 
> > > concerns are unfounded.
> > > 
> > > No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
> > > 
> > > Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report 
> > > after you have read this important insight into an important man in all 
> > > our lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report 
> > > that they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But Curtis,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which 
> > > > > > > later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only 
> > > > > > > Smoke.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several 
> > > > > other women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what 
> > > > > you think.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how 
> > > > > > do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as 
> > > > > > gossip?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where 
> > > > > > you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I am 
> > > > > > assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement 
> > > > > > about her book without having read it.  You know kind of prejudging 
> > > > > > it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  This request is not reasonable.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed 
> > > > > > > > Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and 
> > > > > > > > then the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired 
> > > > > > > > "innuendo" routine now.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What Rick is "prone" to is having an open mind. He has created 
> > > > > > > > a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly 
> > > > > > > > enlightened as well as the currently "whatever".  Not too 
> > > > > > > > shabby IMO.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Although we have come down in different places concerning 
> > > > > > > > spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process 
> > > > > > > > that lead him to his own different conclusions.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > And if he smells smoke, I'm betting

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> 
> It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist 
> like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.

... or an idiot like that other fellow who recommends it so heartily, Rory Goff 
:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[danfriedman2002]

I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis 
weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where vehicles 
are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade.
So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is how I 
happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time it was Egypt. 
I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops should just follow my 
itinerary.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Curtis,
> > 
> > Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
> > arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
> > according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
> > 
> > But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
> > Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
> > from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
> > 
> * * Wow, Dan, I had no idea. I am most happy to hear you are staying away 
> from the shootouts, as well as to hear you will be reading Judith's book. I 
> too look forward to hearing your thoughts on it. Stay well!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[feste37]

I think the best fictional voice on FFL is that of "the wife," as Bob refers to 
her, who reminds me of "She Who Must Be Obeyed" in John Mortimer's Rumpole 
series. Definitely a formidable off-stage character.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I'm pleased a couple of posters recently shared some of their fiction 
> efforts with us. I also began posting on FFL to work on my writing   voice. 
> The reason I picked FFL was   I figured what better place to develop 
> my writing voice than a place where  people seem to be hearing voices. 
> 
> I'm sending this post to share some thoughts on writing rather than share 
> any actual writing. But what the hell, the following paragraph is my effort 
> to expand on the life of the hermaphrodite shape  shifter 
> and after that I'll share some lizards advocate  stuff 
> I'm hoping to get off my  propellers.
> 
> "The shape shifter Bukwas never wavered from his mission. 
> He had been sent to the lonely planet 
> to move "the apes who spoke in many tongues" 
> toward the next level of their evolution. The 
> catalysing myth he planned to use for his mission 
> was to spread the teaching  that, 
> 'Things are what they  seem and God is in the  details'
> The mantra he used in his TM like  meditation, 
> to remind him of his mission, was 
> 
> "you can say that again'.
> 
> From - "Shape shifting on a lonely planet'
> 
> The lizards advocate stuff:
> 
> I'm sure  many FFL posters know that great fiction writers are rarely, 
> if ever, anything like the voices they use for their stories. 
> For example, James Joyce was a terrible stammerer and 
> Dickens hated children. 
> 
> With this in mind, I'd like to share some insights I've had about a couple 
> of FFL posters who seem to   know a lot about developing effective authorial  
>  
> voices. 
> Specifically, I want to share a little about the voices I'm hearing 
> as I read Judy and Turq's posts. 
> 
> I think Turq sometimes shares a writing voice that absolutely nails 
> the emotional palette of a 8 year old. Not just any 8 year old, 
> but a 8 year old who can write  brilliantly. At times, this  voice includes 
> a sense of wonder 
> for "ideas" that for some of us can completely suspend any perception of the  
> mundane 
> one might have for old french cars driven mostly by Egyptian taxi drivers.  
> 
> Judy's writing voice, on the other hand, no less masterful than  Turq's, 
> seems at times to be that of  a reform school mail censor, 
> who knows Turq and believes he will eventually be an inmate in the 
> institution 
> where she works. Her devotion to research and detail are a  marvel 
> for any one who believes voice is everything in fiction. Not to mention her 
> sly 
> habit of posting after he's gone to bed.If a great hero needs a compelling 
> nemesis 
> we might be forgiven for thinking both of these voices were created by the 
> same  
> author.
> 
> "If  any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at most by 
> three, 
> and that by course; 
> and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence 
> in 
> the church; and let him speak to himself, and to  God."
> 
> 1 Corinthians 14:27-28
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

 As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book trying
to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)

 

That "silly book" which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy for "My
mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> Nabby's right, reading this book made me rich beyond my wildest dreams.   
> Every month I get a fat check from the movement so I wont reveal what I read 
> to anyone.  So if you are looking for a quick easy way to make a couple 
> stacks of dead presidents EVERY month, then you should read Judith's book and 
> rake in the dough.  Rake it in like a real gold digger!
> 
> I think it is unlikely that she made much if anything on a small private 
> printing like this.  If she was a gold digger  as you claim she would have 
> shaken down Maharishi while he was alive when it was worth something

She's coward. That's why she did'nt spread the shit while he was alive.

  She went away and waited to tell her story after he died out of respect for 
the guy, a man she loved.
> 
> And I'm not sure you are the one to be casting aspersions on her being a 
> psychic Nabby.  I can't think of anyone more on the fringe of beliefs than 
> you are with the Creme routine.  You are the guy who believes Sai Baba's You 
> Can Be A Magician Magic Set for Pre-teens magic tricks.  So if a chick claims 
> to be intuitive it rocks your credibility world?  That cow left your barn 
> decades ago.

As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book trying to 
make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[curtisdeltablues]

Nabby's right, reading this book made me rich beyond my wildest dreams.   Every 
month I get a fat check from the movement so I wont reveal what I read to 
anyone.  So if you are looking for a quick easy way to make a couple stacks of 
dead presidents EVERY month, then you should read Judith's book and rake in the 
dough.  Rake it in like a real gold digger!

I think it is unlikely that she made much if anything on a small private 
printing like this.  If she was a gold digger  as you claim she would have 
shaken down Maharishi while he was alive when it was worth something.  She went 
away and waited to tell her story after he died out of respect for the guy, a 
man she loved.

And I'm not sure you are the one to be casting aspersions on her being a 
psychic Nabby.  I can't think of anyone more on the fringe of beliefs than you 
are with the Creme routine.  You are the guy who believes Sai Baba's You Can Be 
A Magician Magic Set for Pre-teens magic tricks.  So if a chick claims to be 
intuitive it rocks your credibility world?  That cow left your barn decades ago.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
> > > interesting, though.
> > 
> > A book by a golddigger, now for the time being "pschycic" reader ?
> > C'mon !
> 
> It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist 
> like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.
> 
> 
> > > 
> > > Kat
> >
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:51 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , nablusoss1008 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "mssonni1"  wrote:
> >
> > I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable. It sounds
interesting, though.
> 
> A book by a golddigger, now for the time being "pschycic" reader ?
> C'mon !

It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist
like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.

Stick around, Kat. If you're anything like me, you'll find Nablusoss1008
("Nabby") endlessly entertaining.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
> >
> > I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
> > interesting, though.
> 
> A book by a golddigger, now for the time being "pschycic" reader ?
> C'mon !

It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist like 
the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.


> > 
> > Kat
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[mssonni1]

I know nothing about the book, I was merely asking.

K

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> 
> A book by a golddigger, now for the time being "pschycic" reader ?
> C'mon !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
>
> I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
> interesting, though.

A book by a golddigger, now for the time being "pschycic" reader ?
C'mon !


> 
> Kat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> > You got it, but Curtis already posted the link. If she's in FF, the library
> has copies.


* * Thanks, Curtis, and thanks, Rick! 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[RoryGoff]

Hmm... "Maharishi vs. Ricardo Montalban" ... I can see it now!

SCENE: Heaven-on-Earth, aka Fantasy Island, with RICARDO MONTALBAN as MR. 
ROARKE and MMY as the diminutive TATTOO:

MMY: De plane, boss! De cosmic plane! Let us ring de bell of invincibility for 
every nation. Hm?

Ricardo: Ahh, here come our current guests. You see, Tattoo, everyone who comes 
to Fantasy Island gets what they most passionately desire... but not everyone 
is prepared to admit what they really want! 

MMY: Deserve and then desire! It is easy, yes?

Ricardo: It is easy, No, Tattoo. If it were always easy, we wouldn't have a 
show, would we! And where's the fun in that?

(and so on)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Ohhh...and here I thought it was the print version of "Star Trek: The 
> Wrath of Khan", but you guys were talking about Maharishi vs. Ricardo 
> Montalban. OK, starting to make sense now...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith 
> > Bourque. Have you read it?
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
> > > discussing?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > K
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

I used lower case, in case anyone had different ones. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Xenophaneros Anartaxius  Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
> My wife prefers big G.
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of RoryGoff
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:01 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help
a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

 

  

Hm! I am sorry to hear that it's unavailable on Amazon, Kat. 

Perhaps Rick might be able to come up with one or know where one can be
obtained; I have changed the subject heading accordingly to try and get his
attention.

You got it, but Curtis already posted the link. If she's in FF, the library
has copies.

[FairfieldLife] New camera attached to outside of Space Station

[Rick Archer]

This is a 2-minute video of a new camera system that will soon be attached to 
the outside of the Space Station to give 24-7 access to views of Earth.

 

See it! 

  

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
>  wrote:
> >> Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
> 
> >
> Who isn't? :-D
> Couldn't agree more. 
> I've always thought my thinking was "hearing voices". 
> The wife said 
> "the problem with that insight is that you seem to think that so much of what 
> you're hearing deserves to be repeated verbally".
>
* * Ha! Your wife sounds a lot like mine :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Yep I have found the same thing, but didn't want to go into details unless 
> someone mentioned it first. Regarding seeing the perfection I mean that 
> literally and visually, though it doesn't always match up exactly with the 
> surface picture. 
> 
* * Here too -- although many times I find the surface picture does change to 
reflect the inner one...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[whynotnow7]

Ohhh...and here I thought it was the print version of "Star Trek: The Wrath 
of Khan", but you guys were talking about Maharishi vs. Ricardo Montalban. OK, 
starting to make sense now...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith Bourque. 
> Have you read it?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
> > discussing?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > K
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

[RoryGoff]

Hm! I am sorry to hear that it's unavailable on Amazon, Kat. 

Perhaps Rick might be able to come up with one or know where one can be 
obtained; I have changed the subject heading accordingly to try and get his 
attention.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
>
> I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
> interesting, though.
> 
> Kat
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith 
> > Bourque. Have you read it?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Bob Price]

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>> Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?

>
Who isn't? :-D
Couldn't agree more. 
I've always thought my thinking was "hearing voices". 
The wife said 
"the problem with that insight is that you seem to think that so much of what 
you're hearing deserves to be repeated verbally".

 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of mssonni1
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:30 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  

I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable. It sounds
interesting, though.

Kat

If you happen to be in Fairfield, Iowa, the public library has a couple of
copies.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Bob Price]

>Xenophaneros Anartaxius 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

[whynotnow7]

Yep I have found the same thing, but didn't want to go into details unless 
someone mentioned it first. Regarding seeing the perfection I mean that 
literally and visually, though it doesn't always match up exactly with the 
surface picture. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > I sometimes see astrally perfect versions of what is here on earth, so the 
> > perfect templates of the lokas make sense. 
> 
> Yes! I generally find those perfect versions are actually "inside" all 
> things. If I fail to see them, I am probably just superimposing stories of 
> imperfection on them ...
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short & Sweet

[Bhairitu]

Basically the last three Republican presidents ran up the debt on the 
national credit card.  Republicans partied hardy.  Now the bill is due 
and they don't want to pay it.  They want you and me to pay it for 
them.  Fuck 'em.

On 07/08/2011 11:34 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
> One solution is to let the Republicans get full control of the government, 
> and if they continued their brutality, and they would, then they'll all be 
> shot dead in the streets in short order when they try to set up their brand 
> of fascism and of course overreach with a draconian apocalypse that would 
> make Wisconsin and Michigan but an insignificant start in their dismantling 
> all things good about America.
>
> Right now, I think the country's on a cusp of a financial civil war, and the 
> righties are winning, but at some point, the abuse will pressure cook America 
> to violence.
>
> How many grandmothers do we have to see tossed into the streets because the 
> government stopped their SSS checks?  There's going to be someone hunting 
> down granny's abusers, right? Granny will be avenged.
>
> 400 rich guys have stolen over half America's money, and I say we should 
> rendition them and drop them off on the streets of Mogadishu..it would be 
> a huge success as a reality show, eh?  "How can Bob find a handful of rice 
> today?  Stay tuned for adventure!"
>
> Edg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, WLeed3@ wrote:
 Stocks - Short&   Sweet

 I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.


 He said, "If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
 goods and ammunition are your best  bet!"
>>> And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.
>>>
>> Actually, if the Repubs do get in, we need to have a discussion here on FFL 
>> about the possible places to head to.
>>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Bob Price]

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I'm sure  many FFL posters know that great fiction writers
> are rarely, if ever, anything like the voices they use for
> their stories. For example, James Joyce was a terrible
> stammerer and Dickens hated children. 
> 


I wonder if you share my taste for those great works of romantic
fiction "Arrows of Desire", "This Side of Heaven" and "Passionate
Times"?

Sadly the writer is no longer with us. But only now I find out
that, instead of being a refined lady of good manners and developed
sensibility, "Emma Blair" was a "a burly 6ft 3in Glaswegian
with a 60-a-day habit and a fondness for a good pint".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14061327
I have not had the pleasure of reading this author although after your post I 
plan to rectify that. 
My favourite contemporary (there's a reason Dickens is buried in Westminster 
Abbey) British writers
are John Le Carre and Salman Rushdie, with Ian McEwan a close third. Although I 
have to admit to disappointment
that they did not continue their correspondence covered in the following link.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/04/18/specials/rushdie-lecarre.html

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Bob Price]

   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I'm pleased a couple of posters recently shared some of 
> their fiction efforts with us. I also began posting on 
> FFL to work on my writing voice. The reason I picked 
> FFL was I figured what better place to develop my 
> writing voice than a place where people seem to be 
> hearing voices. 
(turquoiseb...)

I'm replying to say that I liked your last line above. 
Any reply is more than appreciated
(turquoiseb...)
 
But as for your characterizations of two of the writers 
here, I think you may be off the mark. For the first, 
I'm surprised after your mention of Joyce and Dickens 
that you assume that the "age level" employed by a 
writer reflects his own. My experience is that many 
writers "write to" the emotional age of their readers. 
Like most narcissists I tend to write for myself, most days I feel
about 13.
(turquoiseb...)
As for the other writer you characterized as a reform 
school mail censor, I think that's unfair and demean-
ing; reform schools have much higher standards than
that for their personnel.
Easy for you to say, you're still not an inmate.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[curtisdeltablues]

http://robesofsilkfeetofclay.com/

You can order iit here as well as read about it more.  Welcome to the board.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
>
> I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
> interesting, though.
> 
> Kat
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith 
> > Bourque. Have you read it?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Bob Price]

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:

> Not to mention her sly habit of posting after he's gone
> to bed.


Well, you *did* say this was fiction, right? 
My mother used to say "fiction is as fiction does", or something like that.

I mean, otherwise,
to be fair, you'd have mentioned Barry's sly habit of posting
while those of us living in the U.S. are still asleep.

Am I censoring you?
Absolutely not. 
And I disagree with any poster that says that editors can't write. 
Any poster spreading such scurrilous rumours should study more about how 
Raymond 
Carver and Pat Conroy 
arrived at their brilliance.   

[FairfieldLife] Mr Happy Man

[Rick Archer]

Watch both videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpGcv44S6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nveq-kwVu3g

&feature=related





 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[mssonni1]

I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
interesting, though.

Kat

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith Bourque. 
> Have you read it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith Bourque. 
> Have you read it?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:

Ooksä sonni vai onni? Oletan, että onni! ;D


> >
> > Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
> > discussing?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > K
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Yet ANOTHER WI school saves thousands after kicking out Unions!

[wgm4u]

Wisconsin schools buck union to cut health costs
By: Byron York | Chief Political Correspondent Follow Him @ByronYork | 07/07/11 
8:05 PM
Getty Images/Justin Sullivan
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker performs a ceremonial bill signing of the new 
budget law outside his office at the Wisconsin State Capitol on March 11, 2011 
in Madison. The new law helped the Hartland-Lakeside School District save money 
on health care costs by switching providers.
The Hartland-Lakeside School District, about 30 miles west of Milwaukee in tiny 
Hartland, Wis., had a problem in its collective bargaining contract with the 
local teachers union.

The contract required the school district to purchase health insurance from a 
company called WEA Trust. The creation of Wisconsin's largest teachers union -- 
"WEA" stands for Wisconsin Education Association -- WEA Trust made money when 
union officials used collective bargaining agreements to steer profitable 
business its way.

The problem for Hartland-Lakeside was that WEA Trust was charging significantly 
higher rates than the school district could find on the open market. School 
officials knew that because they got a better deal from United HealthCare for 
coverage of nonunion employees. On more than one occasion, Superintendent Glenn 
Schilling asked WEA Trust why the rates were so high. "I could never get a 
definitive answer on that," says Schilling.

Changing to a different insurance company would save Hartland-Lakeside hundreds 
of thousands of dollars that could be spent on key educational priorities -- 
especially important since the cash-strapped state government was cutting back 
on education funding. But teachers union officials wouldn't allow it; the WEA 
Trust requirement was in the contract, and union leaders refused to let 
Hartland-Lakeside off the hook.

That's where Wisconsin's new budget law came in. The law, bitterly opposed by 
organized labor in the state and across the nation, limits the collective 
bargaining powers of some public employees. And it just happens that the 
Hartland-Lakeside teachers' collective bargaining agreement expired on June 30. 
So now, freed from the expensive WEA Trust deal, the school district has 
changed insurers.

"It's going to save us about $690,000 in 2011-2012," says Schilling. Insurance 
costs that had been about $2.5 million a year will now be around $1.8 million. 
What union leaders said would be a catastrophe will in fact be a boon to 
teachers and students.

But the effect of weakening collective bargaining goes beyond money. It also 
has the potential to reshape the adversarial culture that often afflicts public 
education. In Hartland-Lakeside, there's been no war between union-busting 
bureaucrats on one side and impassioned teachers on the other; Schilling speaks 
with great collegiality toward the teachers and says with pride that they've 
been able to work together on big issues. But there has been a deep division 
between the school district and top union executives.

In the health insurance talks, for example, Schilling last year began telling 
teachers about different insurance plans, some of which, like United 
HealthCare's, required a higher deductible. "We involved them, and they 
overwhelmingly endorsed the change to United HealthCare," he says. But even 
with the teachers on board, when school officials presented a 
change-in-coverage proposal to union officials, it was immediately rejected. 
The costly WEA Trust deal stayed in place.

Now, with the collective bargaining agreement gone, Schilling looks forward to 
working more closely with teachers. "I would say the biggest change is we have 
a lot more involvement with a wider scope of teachers," he says. When 
collective bargaining was in effect, "We dealt with a select team of teachers, 
a small group of three or four who were on the bargaining team, and then the 
union director. Any information that went to the teachers went through them. 
Now, we feel that we will have a direct dialogue."

It's not hard to see why union officials hate the new law so much. It not only 
breaks up cherished and lucrative union monopolies like high-cost health 
insurance; it also threatens to break through the union-built wall between 
teachers and administrators and allow the two sides to work together more 
closely. The old union go-betweens, who controlled what their members could and 
could not hear, will be left aside.

Hartland-Lakeside isn't the only school district that is pulling free from 
collective bargaining agreements that mandated WEA Trust coverage. The 
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the Pewaukee School District, not far from 
Hartland-Lakeside, will save $378,000 by next year by leaving WEA Trust. The 
Menomonee Falls School District, farther north, will reportedly save $1.3 
million. Facing state cutbacks, the districts can't afford to overpay for 
union-affiliated coverage.

Look for the unions to fight back with everything they have. If the Wisconsi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats & Scandal

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I took some time off to stop reacting, start cleaning out my house after 
> years of letting things pile up, mow the lawn for the first time, and revel 
> in the joy of silence of not having my teenagers over the July 4th weekend.  
> I can say today that I am grateful for the opportunity to be received by Amma 
> and experience what I did at the Amma event.  In trying to make sense of it 
> all and put it in some objective context, I have spent hours online (in part, 
> educating myself in the cursory fashion that the internet facilitates so 
> well) on Hinduism, the "guru tradition", and various individual gurus. I have 
> spent hours reading posts elucidating a vast range in experiences. Yes, my 
> fear base  and  "trust issues" were triggered, which you picked up 
> on.  Yes, this experience has reinforced certain beliefs that I already 
> had, but was questioning.
> However, today, I simply cannot judge or choose to negate anyone's experience 
> or path...it is certainly not my place and I am most certainly not qualified. 
> I have spent my entire life believing that I was not qualified to live my 
> life and did not deserve to be here.  I want relief.  I think that 
> basicallygiven what I was told prior to attending the Amma visit, I set 
> up internal and high expectations that were, of course, not met.  
> I am in "recovery" on all levels since being laid off in January (by the 
> grace of God)...my stress level was so high that I can't even articulate the 
> despair and desperation, physical, mental and emotional exhaustion I was 
> experiencing. After 6 months off, I am just starting to be able to function 
> again - every month, another layer of stress exfoliates and beacon of light 
> shines through.
> I am coming out of 18 years of working like a dog for corporate america, 
> raising my kids (the last five being the teenage years - it's lucky we fall 
> madly in love when they are born and little), realizing as I spiraled into 
> deep depression and pain on all levels, that I have to completely change my 
> way of living and relating to the world and myself. 
> Yes, I went to Amma praying for a miracle or two...desperately wanting to 
> "feel" what unconditional love and compassion felt like on a personal level. 
>  Yes, I was "hit" with energy - or shakti, persay - it didn't feel personal. 
>  I felt betrayed to some extent by the whole production for many reasons 
> I've already articulated, but in the end, I am glad I went and the primary 
> lesson that was reiterated to me was that I am left with myself and my 
> relationship to the world, the Universe, God.  Establishing and claiming my 
> identity and the right to "be" on this planet in this lifetime is hard for me.
> What I have realized (and this is not the first time) is that I was again 
> searching outside myself for the answer - that I wanted relief and 
> self-forgiveness from something or someone else who was more evolved than I - 
> that I have never felt self-love or worthy, or complete in any fashion.  I 
> was raised by narcissists, began to "self-hate" at a very early age and have 
> attempted to "escape" through a variety of ways my entire life.
> I hate the word "should"; I am tired of being told what and how to be.  I 
> don't want to follow anyone.  I get to decide - that is my birthright. I am 
> tired of reacting rebelliously in an effort to differentiate instead of with 
> respect to self and others.
> I have decided that I cannot worry about how many more thousands of lifetimes 
> I will be "condemned" to return to the planet to work through my karma, nor 
> do I want to aspire to "transcending" or "enlightenment" or "preparing for 
> the afterlife" as a primary goal, and in particular as defined by others. I 
> want to love my life now and attain and maintain a state of gratitude.  I 
> want to feel a connected, peaceful, engaged part of life and revel in the joy 
> of being human.  
> "It's a short trip from cradle to the crypt."  
> Ya see,  perhaps I am integrating the experience despite myself and for 
> myself.  Tee Hee.
>    
> 
* * Ha! Beautiful. Sweet, honest, and heart-warming. Integrating into 
integrity! 

Quoting Tom T's favorite sutra-meister once again, "When we are established in 
truth, our actions achieve the desired results. When we are established in 
integrity, all riches present themselves." 

Thank you so much for sharing your feelings and process with us, Denise!  I 
feel nourished and enriched already!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[RoryGoff]

Hi, and welcome It was "Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay," by Judith Bourque. 
Have you read it?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mssonni1"  wrote:
>
> Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
> discussing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> K
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats & Scandal

[Denise Evans]

I took some time off to stop reacting, start cleaning out my house after years 
of letting things pile up, mow the lawn for the first time, and revel in the 
joy of silence of not having my teenagers over the July 4th weekend.  
I can say today that I am grateful for the opportunity to be received by Amma 
and experience what I did at the Amma event.  In trying to make sense of it all 
and put it in some objective context, I have spent hours online (in part, 
educating myself in the cursory fashion that the internet facilitates so well) 
on Hinduism, the "guru tradition", and various individual gurus. I have spent 
hours reading posts elucidating a vast range in experiences. Yes, my fear base  
and  "trust issues" were triggered, which you picked up on.  Yes, this 
experience has reinforced certain beliefs that I already had, but was 
questioning.
However, today, I simply cannot judge or choose to negate anyone's experience 
or path...it is certainly not my place and I am most certainly not qualified. I 
have spent my entire life believing that I was not qualified to live my life 
and did not deserve to be here.  I want relief.  I think that 
basicallygiven what I was told prior to attending the Amma visit, I set up 
internal and high expectations that were, of course, not met.  
I am in "recovery" on all levels since being laid off in January (by the grace 
of God)...my stress level was so high that I can't even articulate the despair 
and desperation, physical, mental and emotional exhaustion I was experiencing. 
After 6 months off, I am just starting to be able to function again - every 
month, another layer of stress exfoliates and beacon of light shines through.
I am coming out of 18 years of working like a dog for corporate america, 
raising my kids (the last five being the teenage years - it's lucky we fall 
madly in love when they are born and little), realizing as I spiraled into deep 
depression and pain on all levels, that I have to completely change my way of 
living and relating to the world and myself. 
Yes, I went to Amma praying for a miracle or two...desperately wanting to 
"feel" what unconditional love and compassion felt like on a personal level.  
Yes, I was "hit" with energy - or shakti, persay - it didn't feel personal.  I 
felt betrayed to some extent by the whole production for many reasons I've 
already articulated, but in the end, I am glad I went and the primary lesson 
that was reiterated to me was that I am left with myself and my relationship to 
the world, the Universe, God.  Establishing and claiming my identity and the 
right to "be" on this planet in this lifetime is hard for me.
What I have realized (and this is not the first time) is that I was again 
searching outside myself for the answer - that I wanted relief and 
self-forgiveness from something or someone else who was more evolved than I - 
that I have never felt self-love or worthy, or complete in any fashion.  I was 
raised by narcissists, began to "self-hate" at a very early age and have 
attempted to "escape" through a variety of ways my entire life.
I hate the word "should"; I am tired of being told what and how to be.  I don't 
want to follow anyone.  I get to decide - that is my birthright. I am tired of 
reacting rebelliously in an effort to differentiate instead of with respect to 
self and others.
I have decided that I cannot worry about how many more thousands of lifetimes I 
will be "condemned" to return to the planet to work through my karma, nor do I 
want to aspire to "transcending" or "enlightenment" or "preparing for the 
afterlife" as a primary goal, and in particular as defined by others. I want to 
love my life now and attain and maintain a state of gratitude.  I want to feel 
a connected, peaceful, engaged part of life and revel in the joy of being 
human.  
"It's a short trip from cradle to the crypt."  
Ya see,  perhaps I am integrating the experience despite myself and for myself. 
 Tee Hee.
   

--- On Mon, 7/4/11, Ravi Yogi  wrote:

From: Ravi Yogi 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats & Scandal
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 1:04 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans  wrote:
>
> It appears that almost without exception..the various guru organizations 
> devolve to authoritarian regimes in the endregardless of the 
> "enlightenment" factorguru's appear to all demonstrate that they are 
> human in the end.>
> I realize the Amma followers believe she is "benign"but full-on devotees 
> are different and exhibit many of the characteristics and detail many of the 
> experiences in the few accounts available of a "cult follower" than 
> "peripheral followers" "taking what they like and leaving the rest."  I 
> don't actually like that phrase particularlyit's important to explore the 
> whole picture.
> 
You seem hellbent, in a great hurry on s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

[mssonni1]

Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
discussing?

Thanks,

K

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>> Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
>
Who isn't? :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>Not to mention her sly habit of posting after he's gone to bed.If a great hero 
>needs a compelling nemesis we might be forgiven for thinking both of these 
>voices were created by the same author.

Six hours separate authfriend and turquoiseb if we assume the Eastern United 
States area for the former and the Netherlands for the latter.

I have trouble connecting with friends on the West Coast of the United States 
from the East Coast, and that is just three hours difference.

If we assume a typical schedule, turquoiseb can start posting before authfriend 
wakes up, and vice versa.

Regarding the phrase 'hearing voices', some 40 plus years ago the psychologist 
Julian Janes came up with a theory that at one time the human brain thinking 
process was metaphorically divided into two parts, called the bicameral mind, 
and that this mind (i.e., brain processing) evolutionarily not as integrated as 
our current state, at least when the person experienced novel situations, 
resulted in people hearing more unconscious mental processes as voices - 
auditory hallucinations - which commanded them to action.

This division has since disappeared by modern times. The disappearance is 
called the breakdown of the bicameral mind and is marked by the development of 
introspective thinking and our ideas of consciousness.

I am equivocating here, you were talking about a 'writer's voice'. But this 
group here is pretty weird. Some of us still have Neanderthal genetic material 
passed down to us. Maybe the bicameral mind (if it were actually real) is still 
with us to some degree.

Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short & Sweet

[Bhairitu]

On 07/08/2011 09:36 AM, wayback71 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, WLeed3@... wrote:
>>> Stocks - Short&   Sweet
>>>
>>> I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.
>>>
>>>
>>> He said, "If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
>>> goods and ammunition are your best  bet!"
>> And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.
>>
> Actually, if the Repubs do get in, we need to have a discussion here on FFL 
> about the possible places to head to.

Nah, we should probably stay and fight Civil War 2.0 which will be a 
class war and is right on schedule.  Though maybe the opposition is 
beginning to crumble as Murdoch's chickens come home to roost.  He so 
deserves it.  And I hope the rest of the MSM collapses as a result.