[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the earth move for you, too?

2011-08-26 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Well, the Hindu belief system does.  And I guess as a
pseudo-outcaste
  Hindu you might share the belief that all is well and wisely put,
that
  no child dying in pain didn't earn it in a past life.  And as much
as I
  find that view repugnant, it doesn't rise to the level of deceptive
  communication as asserting that any of this nonsense is
scientifically
  based.
  
  Curtis, you can do better than that. The Hindu belief system isn't
meant
  to be judgmental, the Hindu belief system doesn't say anything about
not
  helping the child. Science and philosophy has no answers as to why
that
  child is dying in pain nor does religion. Both science and religion
  would try to compassionately help the child in pain. The theory of
Karma
  isn't to explain any answers, it is to learn surrender, that there
are
  complex mysterious forces at play - as to why certain people suffer
  while others thrive. It empowers us to avoid the suffering that
comes
  from pain, by holding you responsible for your suffering and
providing
  you tools to overcome this suffering.


 Your perspective is well stated and reasonable.  It probably
represents what many educated and thoughtful Hindus believe.  And like
Christians who have proposed more reasonable perspectives on their
religion, it ignores what the scriptures of that religion actually say. 
Many Hindu scriptures actually give the specific next life punishment
for actions.  And the reprehensible treatment of lower caste members is
a direct result in their birth as a reflection of their past life's
advancement.

 So you are better than Hinduism's teachings. That is a good thing.


Curtis - for someone as intelligent and creative as you, you can again
do better. You agree that religion is different than Science but you use
the same yardstick to judge both which is what I have a problem with.
Unlike science reason, logic cannot be used to understand religion. I do
agree with your statement that religion should not use scientific terms,
I think both believers like Buck and skeptics like you make a mistake by
trying to integrate or invalidate the other, that they somehow have to
be mutually exclusive or make sense using a similar criteria. I don't
really see a need to. Even though I berate intellect I don't discard it
myself. I'm a software engineer, a darn good one at work but I realize
the limitations and proper use of it. I discard as soon as I am away
from my computer. However when approaching religion I don't try to
interpret it literally or using reason and logic.
We do not use the same approach when dealing with different people,
children, adults, mean, women. Hinduism is not just about caste system
and retribution for actions, its not even a religion. I don't consider
myself as a Hindu, I use the terms from Hinduism because I was born
there I would have done different if I was a Christian. There are lot of
Hindu scriptures like Tripura Rahasya and Vasishtha Yogathat don''t even
address this, these are the scriptures that I have read, never came
across the ones you mention. I would believe you, like the modern Hindus
that you talk about, would be attracted to these rather than being
fascinated with and pillorying the caste system and the like which had a
specific purpose for a different mindset of people.
What is it that attracts or pains you about these concepts that you
quite clearly say is not in line with the modern educated Hindu thought?
Why do you bother to give so much attention and try to paint it as what
Hinduism is? I wonder what you are intentions are? Surely you are not
living or battling in some feudal village in Northern India under the
oppressive grip of upper castes?


[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Ravi Yogi







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
 
 Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...


Yeah Buddhism is easy, consistent, the Dalai Lama is always smiling, charming, 
diplomatic. Talks about love, compassion, helping suffering people.

People want peace, instant good karma and feel goodness, Tibet needs money. 
It's like going to a whore, you want sex, relief and she needs money, a win-win 
situation.

But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too many 
inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and commitment. 
Only with love can you  accept a person in totality.

No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose 
Buddhism.



[FairfieldLife] Our Great Leader Is Not Dead!

2011-08-26 Thread cardemaister

http://gizmodo.com/5834192/steve-jobs-is-not-dead



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

.. the Dalai Lama is always smiling, charming,
diplomatic. Talks about love, compassion, helping suffering people.


Wait just a minute.  Who are you talking about?  This sounds just like
Amma.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Vaj


On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:



... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!

Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...



Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to India,  
backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The trip culminated  
with him being taken high to the hills above Rishikesh and having his  
head shaved by his guru. He returned to America with a shaved head  
and dressed in Indian clothing. From that silence sequentially  
unfolded the Macintosh...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the earth move for you, too?

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7
It is a seismically active area, with over 90 quakes this last week just in the 
SF Bay Area, and nearly 350 in California (www.earthquake.usgs.gov). Using this 
last week as an average, California will have at least 180,000 earthquakes in 
the next ten years. Its an easy thing to extrapolate from this and say, The 
Big One is coming..., but it really is a meaningless extrapolation, only 
suited for those who cling to their belief in an orderly Universe, using 
science as religion. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
   When contemplating what the term The Big One could
   potentially mean for California, bear in mind that they
   are predictable. They occur in 150 to 200 year cycles. 
  
  **Predictability is the holy grail that the earthquake
  scientists strive for. So far predicting earthquakes hasn't
  happened.
 
 Not for specific earthquakes, no, but statistically it
 can be said that California is due for a Big One within
 a decade or two. May or may not pan out, but that's a
 reasonable prediction.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
 
  ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
 
  Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
 
 Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to 
 India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The 
 trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above 
 Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned 
 to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. 
 From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...

Plus a little help from having stolen the entire 
concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Secret of Levitation BBC for summer time lurkers

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7
Yes, the Rajas soar through the air for hours at a time, effortlessly of 
course. Everyone knows that! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@... wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:07 AM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   The all-knowing BBC  believed that nobody dared to ask  Maharishi Mahesh
  Yogi if he can and will/have use(d) his levitation skills?
  lol (actually a question  from the 60s  asked already during his India
  tours)
  check part  2-4 with MMY, and of course Hagelin, and ...
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5sxax2CvE0
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4z2Hm8jSofeature=related
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnTmfqUKhMfeature=related
  YouTube Direktlink
 
 
 
 Paul McCartney asked Maharishi about levitation in 1968 and Maharishi didn't
 know anyone who could do it. We may never know about him but what about the
 current leadership? Can the Rajas fly higher or longer than others?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
  
   ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
  
   Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
  
  Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to 
  India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The 
  trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above 
  Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned 
  to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. 
  From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
 
 Plus a little help from having stolen the entire 
 concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)

Certainly if the GUI and mouse had stayed in the Parc labs, nothing would have 
happened. The copier boys running Xerox in NY state didn't have a clue what to 
do with them.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Libertarian Hypocrites and Liars

2011-08-26 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


raunchydog:
 When we bailed out the banks in 2008...

So, how much money did you lose when you 
helped bailed out the banks? If you had a 
401K you may have lost a lot, but if the
banks had failed you might have been 
really screwed. If you didn't have any
money in the bank, you were already very
broke. LoL!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Vaj


On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
 
  ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
 
  Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...

 Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to
 India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The
 trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above
 Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned
 to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing.
 From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...

Plus a little help from having stolen the entire
concept from Xerox Parc labs. :-)



Sri Jobs had cognized the graphical GUI while in India; Xerox, taking  
advantage of the hundredth monkey effect, stole Jobs cognition.  Job- 
ji, due to support of nature and the frictionless flow of his state  
of consciousness effortlessly regained what was rightfully his. Geeks  
in lower states of consciousness tried to replicate it, but only  
succeeded in mimicking Job's reality distorting cognitions of  
ultimate User Interface realities.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the earth move for you, too?

2011-08-26 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


 You were a philosophy major?

curtisdeltablues:
 We spent a month on the philosophy of science...

Well, I just don't get it - why on earth would 
anyone want to major in Philosophy at MUM? They 
don't even teach any Eastern Philosophy!

You probably meant Western Philosophy. In order 
to study Eastern Philosophy, you'd have to know 
how to read, write, and translate at least six 
different languages. Most people who attend
MUM can't even read and write a common prakrit. 

Go figure.

To learn Western Philosphy, you'd need to know at 
least German, so you could read Hegel and Marx. 

LoL!

'The Open Society and its Enemies'
The Spell of Plato (Vol 1)
Hegel and Marx (Vol 2)
By Karl Popper 
Routledge, 1949, 1963



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
   
... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
   
Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
  
   Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to
   India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The
   trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above
   Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned
   to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing.
   From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
 
  Plus a little help from having stolen the entire
  concept from Xerox Parc labs. :-)
 
 Sri Jobs had cognized the graphical GUI while in India; Xerox, 
 taking advantage of the hundredth monkey effect, stole Jobs 
 cognition. Job-ji, due to support of nature and the frictionless 
 flow of his state of consciousness effortlessly regained what 
 was rightfully his. 

Yeah, right. And Maharishi was really a Rishi.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:

 ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!

 Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
   
Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to
India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The
trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above
Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned
to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing.
From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
  
   Plus a little help from having stolen the entire
   concept from Xerox Parc labs. :-)
  
  Sri Jobs had cognized the graphical GUI while in India; Xerox, 
  taking advantage of the hundredth monkey effect, stole Jobs 
  cognition. Job-ji, due to support of nature and the frictionless 
  flow of his state of consciousness effortlessly regained what 
  was rightfully his. 
 
 Yeah, right. And Maharishi was really a Rishi.  :-)

Not just a Rishi, a MAHA Rishi, the greatest teacher of ALL time!:-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/26/2011 05:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@...  wrote:
 On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
 ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!

 Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
 Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to
 India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The
 trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above
 Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned
 to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing.
  From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
 Plus a little help from having stolen the entire
 concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)

And how Xerox Fumbled the Future in the book Fumbling the Future:
http://www.amazon.com/Fumbling-Future-Invented-Personal-Computer/dp/1583482660

Of course much of today's GUI concept came from the work of Doug 
Engelbart at SRI circa 1968:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs




[FairfieldLife] Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread Rick Archer

Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics 


One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.


*   By  
http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=STEPHEN+MOOREbylinesearch=true
 STEPHEN MOORE 

If you really want to light the fuse of a liberal Democrat, compare Barack 
Obama's economic performance after 30 months in office with that of Ronald 
Reagan. It's not at all flattering for Mr. Obama. 

The two presidents have a lot in common. Both inherited an American economy in 
collapse. And both applied daring, expensive remedies. Mr. Reagan passed the 
biggest tax cut ever, combined with an agenda of deregulation, monetary 
restraint and spending controls. Mr. Obama, of course, has given us a $1 
trillion spending stimulus. 

By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was 
soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. In 
1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the economy 
would overheat. In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping along at 
barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a double-dip 
recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning in America. Today 
there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight. 

My purpose here is not more Reagan idolatry, but to point out an 
incontrovertible truth: One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.

The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize production—i.e., the supply side of 
the economy—by lowering restraints on business expansion and investment. This 
was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, eliminating regulatory high 
hurdles, and reining in inflation with a tighter monetary policy.

View Full Image

 

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http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/ED-AO139_stevem_G_20110825162903.jpg
 

The Keynesians in the early 1980s assured us that the Reagan expansion would 
not and could not happen. Rapid growth with new jobs and falling rates of 
inflation (to 4% in 1983 from 13% in 1980) is an impossibility in Keynesian 
textbooks. If you increase demand, prices go up. If you increase supply—as 
Reagan did—prices go down. 

The Godfather of the neo-Keynesians, Paul Samuelson, was the lead critic of the 
supposed follies of Reaganomics. He wrote in a 1980 Newsweek column that to 
slay the inflation monster would take five to ten years of austerity, with 
unemployment of 8% or 9% and real output of barely 1 or 2 percent. 
Reaganomics was routinely ridiculed in the media, especially in the 1982 
recession. That was the year MIT economist Lester Thurow famously said, The 
engines of economic growth have shut down here and across the globe, and they 
are likely to stay that way for years to come.

The economy would soon take flight for more than 80 consecutive months. Then 
the Reagan critics declared what they once thought couldn't work was actually a 
textbook Keynesian expansion fueled by budget deficits of $200 billion a year, 
or about 4%-5% of GDP. 

Robert Reich, now at the University of California, Berkeley, explained that 
The recession of 1981-82 was so severe that the bounce back has been 
vigorous. Paul Krugman wrote in 2004 that the Reagan boom was really nothing 
special because: You see, rapid growth is normal when an economy is bouncing 
back from a deep slump. 

Mr. Krugman was, for once, at least partly right. How could Reagan not look 
good after four years of Jimmy Carter's economic malpractice?

Fast-forward to today. Mr. Obama is running deficits of $1.3 trillion, or 8%-9% 
of GDP. If the Reagan deficits powered the '80s expansion, the Obama 
deficits—twice as large—should have the U.S. sprinting at Olympic speed. 

The left has now embraced a new theory to explain why the Obama spending hasn't 
worked. The answer is contained in the book This Time Is Different, by 
economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff. Published in 2009, the book 
examines centuries of recessions and depressions world-wide. The authors 
conclude that it takes nations much longer—six years or more—to recover from 
financial crises and the popping of asset bubbles than from typical recessions. 

In any case, what Reagan inherited was arguably a more severe financial crisis 
than what was dropped in Mr. Obama's lap. You don't believe it? From 1967 to 
1982 stocks lost two-thirds of their value relative to inflation, according to 
a new report from Laffer Associates. That mass liquidation of wealth was a 
first-rate financial calamity. And tell me that 20% mortgage interest rates, as 
we saw in the 1970s, aren't indicative of a monetary-policy meltdown. 

There is something that is genuinely different this time. It isn't the nature 
of the crisis Mr. Obama inherited, but the nature of his policy prescriptions. 
Reagan applied tax cuts and other policies that, yes, took the deficit to 
unchartered peacetime highs. 

But that borrowing financed a remarkable and prolonged economic 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Libertarian Hypocrites and Liars

2011-08-26 Thread obbajeeba
Oh darn. I posted the wrong cut and paste. To err is human.

I meant to post this one. : ) 
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/tea-party-founder-surging-ahead-in-polls-128450603.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1rN7qSN3c  : )
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
  
  
  KIndly warn someone when one is going to go to a link and view a woman of
  color trying to sing.   What does this have to do with anything except
  showing you're one of them?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
  
   ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
  
   Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
  
  Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to 
  India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The 
  trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above 
  Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned 
  to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. 
  From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
 
 Plus a little help from having stolen the entire 
 concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)


Apple paid for the visit and subsequent use of the ideas by allowing Xerox to 
purchase $1 million in stock options at a minimalist price which is now 
probably worth many billions of dollars, had they held on to it.

Xerox was so dismal in how they utilized the technology that the entire team 
that developed the GUI, object oriented programming, etc., eventually ended up 
working for APple a few years later because they were annoyed at how 
unproductive working for Xerox proved to be.

Apple didn't steal anything.

L



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


Bhairitu:
 Of course much of today's GUI concept came from 
 the work of Doug Engelbart...

The Apple Macintosh was the first commercially 
successful personal computer with a graphical user 
interface.

Steve Wozniak is listed as the sole inventor on the 
following patents:

US Patent No. 4,136,359 - Microcomputer for use with 
video display 

US Patent No. 4,210,959 - Controller for magnetic 
disc, recorder

US Patent No. 4,217,604 - Apparatus for digitally 
controlling PAL color display

US Patent No. 4,278,972 - Digitally-controlled 
color signal generation means for use with display



[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread sparaig
Google: reagan tax cut myth
e.g.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20030729-503544.html

And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, it 
continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, skyrocketing 
from $700 billion to $3 trillion. 

that's an increase of 400 percent over 8 years.

People are bitching about Obama's increases to the debt, which are a tiny 
fraction of Reagan's.



Lawson

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 
 Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics 
 
 
 One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.
 
 
 * By  
 http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=STEPHEN+MOOREbylinesearch=true
  STEPHEN MOORE 
 
 If you really want to light the fuse of a liberal Democrat, compare Barack 
 Obama's economic performance after 30 months in office with that of Ronald 
 Reagan. It's not at all flattering for Mr. Obama. 
 
 The two presidents have a lot in common. Both inherited an American economy 
 in collapse. And both applied daring, expensive remedies. Mr. Reagan passed 
 the biggest tax cut ever, combined with an agenda of deregulation, monetary 
 restraint and spending controls. Mr. Obama, of course, has given us a $1 
 trillion spending stimulus. 
 
 By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was 
 soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. In 
 1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the 
 economy would overheat. In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping 
 along at barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a 
 double-dip recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning in 
 America. Today there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight. 
 
 My purpose here is not more Reagan idolatry, but to point out an 
 incontrovertible truth: One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.
 
 The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize productionâ€i.e., the supply side 
 of the economyâ€by lowering restraints on business expansion and investment. 
 This was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, eliminating regulatory 
 high hurdles, and reining in inflation with a tighter monetary policy.
 
 View Full Image
 
  
 
  stevemoore http://si.wsj.net/img/BTN_insetClose.gif 
 
  stevemoore 
 http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/ED-AO139_stevem_G_20110825162903.jpg
  
 
 The Keynesians in the early 1980s assured us that the Reagan expansion would 
 not and could not happen. Rapid growth with new jobs and falling rates of 
 inflation (to 4% in 1983 from 13% in 1980) is an impossibility in Keynesian 
 textbooks. If you increase demand, prices go up. If you increase supplyâ€as 
 Reagan didâ€prices go down. 
 
 The Godfather of the neo-Keynesians, Paul Samuelson, was the lead critic of 
 the supposed follies of Reaganomics. He wrote in a 1980 Newsweek column that 
 to slay the inflation monster would take five to ten years of austerity, 
 with unemployment of 8% or 9% and real output of barely 1 or 2 percent. 
 Reaganomics was routinely ridiculed in the media, especially in the 1982 
 recession. That was the year MIT economist Lester Thurow famously said, The 
 engines of economic growth have shut down here and across the globe, and they 
 are likely to stay that way for years to come.
 
 The economy would soon take flight for more than 80 consecutive months. Then 
 the Reagan critics declared what they once thought couldn't work was actually 
 a textbook Keynesian expansion fueled by budget deficits of $200 billion a 
 year, or about 4%-5% of GDP. 
 
 Robert Reich, now at the University of California, Berkeley, explained that 
 The recession of 1981-82 was so severe that the bounce back has been 
 vigorous. Paul Krugman wrote in 2004 that the Reagan boom was really nothing 
 special because: You see, rapid growth is normal when an economy is bouncing 
 back from a deep slump. 
 
 Mr. Krugman was, for once, at least partly right. How could Reagan not look 
 good after four years of Jimmy Carter's economic malpractice?
 
 Fast-forward to today. Mr. Obama is running deficits of $1.3 trillion, or 
 8%-9% of GDP. If the Reagan deficits powered the '80s expansion, the Obama 
 deficitsâ€twice as largeâ€should have the U.S. sprinting at Olympic speed. 
 
 The left has now embraced a new theory to explain why the Obama spending 
 hasn't worked. The answer is contained in the book This Time Is Different, 
 by economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff. Published in 2009, the book 
 examines centuries of recessions and depressions world-wide. The authors 
 conclude that it takes nations much longerâ€six years or moreâ€to recover 
 from financial crises and the popping of asset bubbles than from typical 
 recessions. 
 
 In any case, what Reagan inherited was arguably a more severe financial 
 crisis than what was dropped in Mr. Obama's lap. You don't believe it? From 
 1967 to 1982 stocks lost two-thirds 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... 
wrote:

 
 
 Bhairitu:
  Of course much of today's GUI concept came from 
  the work of Doug Engelbart...
 
 The Apple Macintosh was the first commercially 
 successful personal computer with a graphical user 
 interface.

Missed the reference to Douglas Engelbart.

Alan Kay (lead/participant for most of the GUI and much of the other advanced 
technology work at Xerox) says that almost every major computer invention in 
the past 45 years was inspired by Douglas Engelbart's Mother of all Demos...

google Mother of all Demos for more info.

L.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

Snip

 But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too 
 many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and 
 commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in totality.
 
 No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose 
 Buddhism.


Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi?  Ethno-centric bias is so predictable.  So 
you were born in that part of the world and amazingly enough conclude that the 
stories they tell are the rightest ones.  How convenient!

I don't know how you got the idea that this totally non-religious person is 
connected in any way to Buddhism, but it is erroneous.  Other than studying a 
bit of the Theravada version to understand my Thai friends better, I am at the 
I read Siddhartha isn't that about Buddha level of ignorance about this 
religion. 





 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
  
  Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
 
 
 Yeah Buddhism is easy, consistent, the Dalai Lama is always smiling, 
 charming, diplomatic. Talks about love, compassion, helping suffering people.
 
 People want peace, instant good karma and feel goodness, Tibet needs money. 
 It's like going to a whore, you want sex, relief and she needs money, a 
 win-win situation.
 
 But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too 
 many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and 
 commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in totality.
 
 No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose 
 Buddhism.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
   
... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
   
Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
   
   Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to 
   India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The 
   trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above 
   Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned 
   to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. 
   From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
  
  Plus a little help from having stolen the entire 
  concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)
 
 Apple paid for the visit and subsequent use of the ideas by 
 allowing Xerox to purchase $1 million in stock options at a 
 minimalist price which is now probably worth many billions 
 of dollars, had they held on to it.
 
 Xerox was so dismal in how they utilized the technology that 
 the entire team that developed the GUI, object oriented 
 programming, etc., eventually ended up working for APple a 
 few years later because they were annoyed at how unproductive 
 working for Xerox proved to be.
 
 Apple didn't steal anything.

One thing you can say about being an apologist for
one cult leader is that it's good practice for being
an apologist for another one. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/26/2011 09:35 AM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliamswillytex@... 
  wrote:


 Bhairitu:
 Of course much of today's GUI concept came from
 the work of Doug Engelbart...

 The Apple Macintosh was the first commercially
 successful personal computer with a graphical user
 interface.
 Missed the reference to Douglas Engelbart.

 Alan Kay (lead/participant for most of the GUI and much of the other advanced 
 technology work at Xerox) says that almost every major computer invention in 
 the past 45 years was inspired by Douglas Engelbart's Mother of all Demos...

 google Mother of all Demos for more info.

 L.

The YouTube link I provided IS part 1 of 9 of The Mother of All Demos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs




[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread obbajeeba
Hee hee hee. This is getting interesting. hahaha. The duel is on! Please 
continue!  LOL


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
 Snip
 
  But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too 
  many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and 
  commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in totality.
  
  No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose 
  Buddhism.
 
 
 Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi?  Ethno-centric bias is so predictable.  
 So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly enough conclude that 
 the stories they tell are the rightest ones.  How convenient!
 
 I don't know how you got the idea that this totally non-religious person is 
 connected in any way to Buddhism, but it is erroneous.  Other than studying a 
 bit of the Theravada version to understand my Thai friends better, I am at 
 the I read Siddhartha isn't that about Buddha level of ignorance about this 
 religion. 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
  
   
   ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
   
   Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
  
  
  Yeah Buddhism is easy, consistent, the Dalai Lama is always smiling, 
  charming, diplomatic. Talks about love, compassion, helping suffering 
  people.
  
  People want peace, instant good karma and feel goodness, Tibet needs money. 
  It's like going to a whore, you want sex, relief and she needs money, a 
  win-win situation.
  
  But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too 
  many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and 
  commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in totality.
  
  No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose 
  Buddhism.
 





[FairfieldLife] Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread Bhairitu
Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding factories 
and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood, 
electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a 
statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, 
defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice 
Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized 
Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he 
said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of overly 
broad laws to make the company cry uncle.

Article here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html

Interesting situation to put many musicians in.



[FairfieldLife] (unknown)

2011-08-26 Thread Chris Menkemeyer
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finding this was the greatest thing thats ever happened!!bra 
href=http://magda717.cba.pl/GrahamCarter80.html;http://magda717.cba.pl/GrahamCarter80.html/a
 this put me in the lap of luxury I wouldnt waste your timebrYou will love me 
for this!/p


[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the earth move for you, too?

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
snip
 
  Your perspective is well stated and reasonable.  It probably
 represents what many educated and thoughtful Hindus believe.  And like
 Christians who have proposed more reasonable perspectives on their
 religion, it ignores what the scriptures of that religion actually say. 
 Many Hindu scriptures actually give the specific next life punishment
 for actions.  And the reprehensible treatment of lower caste members is
 a direct result in their birth as a reflection of their past life's
 advancement.
 
  So you are better than Hinduism's teachings. That is a good thing.
 
 


Ravi:

 Curtis - for someone as intelligent and creative as you, you can again
 do better. You agree that religion is different than Science but you use
 the same yardstick to judge both which is what I have a problem with.

Then I have not made myself clear.  I evaluate the claims of religion by the 
standards of epistemology in a broader sense than the specific scientific 
method represents.  For most religious claims that narrow method is not 
appropriate or productive.  But people still need to have good reasons for 
beliefs and I find them lacking in religious claims.

Ravi
 Unlike science reason, logic cannot be used to understand religion.

Me:
Here I disagree. Religious systems make claims about how the world actually is, 
and there is a lot of intersection with very practical concerns such as the 
beginning of life for the purposes of assessing whether or not contraception is 
a good or bad thing.  It is not strictly the field of logic which applies, but 
the evaluation of the support for beliefs that is relevant and worthy of 
challenge.

Ravi:
 I do
 agree with your statement that religion should not use scientific terms,

Me:
That was my most important point so we seem to have agreement on what had 
gotten me to write in the first place.

Ravi
 I think both believers like Buck and skeptics like you make a mistake by
 trying to integrate or invalidate the other, that they somehow have to
 be mutually exclusive or make sense using a similar criteria. I don't
 really see a need to.

Me:
I know I make this point a lot but I need to say it again.  Doug and I are both 
believers and skeptics both.  These are context dependent functions of a normal 
human mind. No one believes everything and no one rejects everything.  We are 
just applying different criteria as our threshold for good reasons to believe 
specific claims of the movement.  Doug has joined me in skepticism about Rev. 
Moon being an incarnation of God on earth whose every utterance should be 
followed as scripture. He is just as skeptical as I am in that context or else 
he is just a really shitty moonie.   


Ravi
 Even though I berate intellect I don't discard it
 myself. I'm a software engineer, a darn good one at work but I realize  the 
 limitations and proper use of it.

Me: As do I.  As a musician and educator I am aware of a more holistic approach 
to intelligence.

Ravi:
 I discard as soon as I am away from my computer.

Me:  I'm not sure this claim holds up.  It may be just a balance a proportion.  
I am assuming that you aren't stopping to invest a lot of cash in 3 card Monte 
games on the street on your way home.

Ravi:
 However when approaching religion I don't try to
 interpret it literally or using reason and logic.

Me: Again it may be a function of emphasis but you certainly did use your 
intellect and skeptical mind in your analysis of Buddhism. 

Ravi:
 We do not use the same approach when dealing with different people,
 children, adults, mean, women. Hinduism is not just about caste system
 and retribution for actions, its not even a religion.

ME:
It servers as the source of religious beliefs for millions of people.  And 
although it shouldn't be reduced to only being about the caste system, in terms 
of how millions of people are affected, that is an area of a massive ethical 
lapse from my POV.  And modern India is coming to reject it as they modernize. 
My Indian friends face its implications when they visit their village homes of 
origin.

Ravi:
 I don't consider
 myself as a Hindu, I use the terms from Hinduism because I was born
 there I would have done different if I was a Christian. There are lot of
 Hindu scriptures like Tripura Rahasya and Vasishtha Yogathat don''t even
 address this, these are the scriptures that I have read, never came
 across the ones you mention. I would believe you, like the modern Hindus
 that you talk about, would be attracted to these rather than being
 fascinated with and pillorying the caste system and the like which had a
 specific purpose for a different mindset of people.

Me:  People make the same argument about Southern slavery. I am not a cultural 
moral relativist.  Cruelty doesn't have an acceptable context for me.  Now that 
doesn't mean I 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:31 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

 

  

Google: reagan tax cut myth
e.g.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20030729-503544.html

And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, it 
continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, skyrocketing 
from $700 billion to $3 trillion. 

that's an increase of 400 percent over 8 years.

People are bitching about Obama's increases to the debt, which are a tiny 
fraction of Reagan's.

Lawson

My conservative friend responded: 

Exactly, you are stuck in your liberal bias.  Too bad.  Living a lie isn’t good 
your health. The debt increased under Reagan because the congress was 
controlled totally by democrats.  Every budget Reagan sent up there was thrown 
out.  Let’s see, Reagan under the Dems had an increase of less than $300 
billion a year.  Obama, again under most Dems has had a $1.5 trillion increase 
in debt per year.  If $300 billion a year is bad, isn’t $1.5 trillion 5 times 
worse?  Also, you want more revenue and have the “rich” may more, right?  Under 
Reagan tax revenues increased by a very large amount and upper income people 
paid a lot more:  http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm

 

But again, I guess facts simply don’t matter.  What seems to matter is to 
punish success and reward failure.  What a crazy world you live in.  Rewarding 
success leads to more success.  Rewarding failure leads to more failure.  This 
simply economic logic seems to baffle liberals.

 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , 
Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 
 Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics 
 
 
 One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.
 
 
 * By http://online.wsj.com/search/term..html?KEYWORDS=STEPHEN+MOORE 
 http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=STEPHEN+MOOREbylinesearch=true
  bylinesearch=true STEPHEN MOORE 
 
 If you really want to light the fuse of a liberal Democrat, compare Barack 
 Obama's economic performance after 30 months in office with that of Ronald 
 Reagan. It's not at all flattering for Mr. Obama. 
 
 The two presidents have a lot in common. Both inherited an American economy 
 in collapse. And both applied daring, expensive remedies. Mr. Reagan passed 
 the biggest tax cut ever, combined with an agenda of deregulation, monetary 
 restraint and spending controls. Mr. Obama, of course, has given us a $1 
 trillion spending stimulus. 
 
 By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was 
 soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. In 
 1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the 
 economy would overheat. In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping 
 along at barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a 
 double-dip recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning in 
 America. Today there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight. 
 
 My purpose here is not more Reagan idolatry, but to point out an 
 incontrovertible truth: One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.
 
 The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize productionâ€i.e., the supply side 
 of the economyâ€by lowering restraints on business expansion and investment. 
 This was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, eliminating regulatory 
 high hurdles, and reining in inflation with a tighter monetary policy.
 
 View Full Image
 
 
 
 stevemoore http://si.wsj.net/img/BTN_insetClose.gif 
 
 stevemoore 
 http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/ED-AO139_stevem_G_20110825162903.jpg
  
 
 The Keynesians in the early 1980s assured us that the Reagan expansion would 
 not and could not happen. Rapid growth with new jobs and falling rates of 
 inflation (to 4% in 1983 from 13% in 1980) is an impossibility in Keynesian 
 textbooks. If you increase demand, prices go up. If you increase supplyâ€as 
 Reagan didâ€prices go down. 
 
 The Godfather of the neo-Keynesians, Paul Samuelson, was the lead critic of 
 the supposed follies of Reaganomics. He wrote in a 1980 Newsweek column that 
 to slay the inflation monster would take five to ten years of austerity, 
 with unemployment of 8% or 9% and real output of barely 1 or 2 percent. 
 Reaganomics was routinely ridiculed in the media, especially in the 1982 
 recession. That was the year MIT economist Lester Thurow famously said, The 
 engines of economic growth have shut down here and across the globe, and they 
 are likely to stay that way for years to come.
 
 The economy would soon take flight for more than 80 consecutive months.. Then 
 the Reagan critics declared what they once thought couldn't work was actually 
 a textbook Keynesian expansion fueled by budget deficits of $200 billion a 
 year, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for posting this,what a find!  I can't imagine traveling overseas with 
any vintage wood guitar myself.

Gibson bought Dobro and then forced dealers to keep about a half million 
dollars in Gibson products in stock to be a Gibson rep. This bullying on their 
part makes it very difficult to find any small dealers with Dobros. Although it 
is a completely different topic, it comes under the umbrella of at politics.  
Monkeys being monkeys!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding factories 
 and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood, 
 electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a 
 statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, 
 defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice 
 Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized 
 Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he 
 said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of overly 
 broad laws to make the company cry uncle.
 
 Article here:
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html
 
 Interesting situation to put many musicians in.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
  Plus a little help from having stolen the 
  entire concept from Xerox Parc labs...
 
sparaig:
 Apple didn't steal anything.
 
Looks like Turq was fibbing again, just like
he was fibbing about the Rama levitation
incident? Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] WTF?

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Chris Menkemeyer menkemeyer@... wrote:

 pI have overcome many of lifes obstacles I needed a quick and easy solution 
 finding this was the greatest thing thats ever happened!!bra 
 href=http://magda717.cba.pl/GrahamCarter80.html;http://magda717.cba.pl/GrahamCarter80.html/a
  this put me in the lap of luxury I wouldnt waste your timebrYou will love 
 me for this!/p

From the site:
Offer Promotion Ends Tomorrow: Saturday, August 27, 2011

Chris is this the product of some spyware spam bot on your computer or are you 
sincerely spamming us with get rich quick crap?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
  No wonder the majority of Americans including 
  Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose Buddhism...
 
curtisdeltablues: 
 Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi?

The historical Buddha was a Hindu - there was no 
'Buddhism' back then (563 BC).



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7
Well the entire team didn't go to Apple, but they all left Xerox and started 
companies like Adobe, Ashton-Tate (MS Word), and GRiD Systems. My wife worked 
at Parc for five years during that amazing run of creativity. 

Too bad some on here think that spreading Parc's technology is a BAD THING, or 
pretend to, just for a little attention (you know who you are)...:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:
   
... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!
   
Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...
   
   Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to 
   India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The 
   trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above 
   Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned 
   to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. 
   From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
  
  Plus a little help from having stolen the entire 
  concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)
 
 
 Apple paid for the visit and subsequent use of the ideas by allowing Xerox to 
 purchase $1 million in stock options at a minimalist price which is now 
 probably worth many billions of dollars, had they held on to it.
 
 Xerox was so dismal in how they utilized the technology that the entire team 
 that developed the GUI, object oriented programming, etc., eventually ended 
 up working for APple a few years later because they were annoyed at how 
 unproductive working for Xerox proved to be.
 
 Apple didn't steal anything.
 
 L





Re: [FairfieldLife] Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread Vaj


On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding  
factories

and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood,
electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a
statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz,
defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice
Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized
Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he
said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of  
overly

broad laws to make the company cry uncle.



I routinely take a handmade six- or 12-string when I go across the  
border to Canada, which I do often - both with rosewood and ebony.  
Looks like it's time to buy the RainSong 12-string I've been wanting!

[FairfieldLife] Re: WTF?

2011-08-26 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Chris Menkemeyer menkemeyer@ wrote:
 
  [spam deleted]
 
 From the site:
 Offer Promotion Ends Tomorrow: Saturday, August 27, 2011
 
 Chris is this the product of some spyware spam bot on your
 computer or are you sincerely spamming us with get rich quick
 crap?


I've been seeing this happen quite a lot lately on Yahoo Groups. His account 
has been compromised, and spammers are sending out spam to everyone in his 
address book. I have erased the spam from the FFL website, and I've put him on 
moderated status so that no more spams can go through.



[FairfieldLife] Re: WTF?

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
On top of it as usual, thanks Alex!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Chris Menkemeyer menkemeyer@ wrote:
  
   [spam deleted]
  
  From the site:
  Offer Promotion Ends Tomorrow: Saturday, August 27, 2011
  
  Chris is this the product of some spyware spam bot on your
  computer or are you sincerely spamming us with get rich quick
  crap?
 
 
 I've been seeing this happen quite a lot lately on Yahoo Groups. His account 
 has been compromised, and spammers are sending out spam to everyone in his 
 address book. I have erased the spam from the FFL website, and I've put him 
 on moderated status so that no more spams can go through.





[FairfieldLife] World Peace Assembly in Dubrovnik 15-29 October [1 Attachment]

2011-08-26 Thread merlin
 


Dear Friends,

Could you please forward this WPA announcement to anyone who you think might be 
interested. This is the biggest course we are organizing in Croatia since our 
legendary Dubrovnik Peace Project. We also have a parallel program for TM 
families called Holiday in Paradise. 

Thank you!

Jai Guru Dev
Lucija

 



International Course for Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators

Living in Abundance

Engaging the Infinite Power of Natural Law 
for Maximum Abundance in Personal and Collective Life







 
October 15 – 29, 2011
Hotel Valamar Club, Dubrovnik, Croatia 


We joyfully invite you to join us in beautiful Dubrovnik this October, during 
the auspicious season of Mahalakshmi festivities. Let’s enjoy deep group 
meditations and enliven in our awareness the laws of nature that eternally 
support prosperity, success, beauty, and abundance on every level of life.

Option 1: World Peace Assembly (7 or 14 days)– you will enjoy:

extended group practice of the TM sidhi program 
deep rest and revitalization of your mind and body 
enlightening video lectures of Maharishi 
inspiring news by the Raja of Invincible Croatia 
Yoga Asana and Pranayama refresher meeting 
grand celebration of Mahalakshmi Day live from the Brahmastan of India 
delicious meals and walks in a sublime Mediterranean setting 

Option 2: Holiday In Paradise Program (7 or 14 days)

This is our new vacation program for sidhas and meditators, with or without 
families, offering a “taste of life in a meditating community”. You will enjoy:

blissful group practice of the TM-Sidhi program or group meditation 
childcare service during group meditation times 
evening knowledge program with video lectures of Maharishi, inspiring news and 
seminars 
Yoga Asana and Pranayama refresher meeting 
grand celebration of Mahalakshmi Day live from the Brahmastan of India 
delicious meals and day trips to explore beautiful nature and ancient locations 
fun recreational activities for you and your family, including tennis, biking, 
walking, and affordable day passes for the luxurious Valamar Lacroma Wellness 
Center (with large indoor swimming pool area and much more) 

Course Prices 
These prices are per person per day. They include: room, all meals, course fee, 
and all taxes. 

World Peace Assembly (WPA):

    42 Euros per day in double room
    58 Euros per day in single room

Holiday in Paradise program:

    42 Euros per day in double room
    58 Euros per day in single room

Optional activities such as the use of the wellness center, tennis courts, bike 
rentals, car rentals, and day trips will be charged separately.

Come and join us in the fabulous Dubrovnik for a taste of life in bliss and 
abundance! 

To apply please go to: www.DubrovnikCourses.org and click on “Apply now!” 
button. In order to secure your hotel reservation, we must receive your 
application as early as possible. 

For any questions please send an e-mail to: i...@dubrovnikcourses.org

Jai Guru Dev

Mladen Juričev
National Leader
Croatian Association for Transcendental Meditation




[FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
Those RainSong guitars look great, I have never played one.  My guitar student 
showed up with a composite, very light, resonator from Beltona and it sounded 
fantastic head to head with my National Steel and Dobro.  It would be fantastic 
to travel with.  These wood guitars sound really good and are really packable. 
The neck folds! 
http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 
  Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding  
  factories
  and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood,
  electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a
  statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz,
  defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice
  Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized
  Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he
  said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of  
  overly
  broad laws to make the company cry uncle.
 
 
 I routinely take a handmade six- or 12-string when I go across the  
 border to Canada, which I do often - both with rosewood and ebony.  
 Looks like it's time to buy the RainSong 12-string I've been wanting!





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread Vaj


On Aug 26, 2011, at 2:10 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

Those RainSong guitars look great, I have never played one. My  
guitar student showed up with a composite, very light, resonator  
from Beltona and it sounded fantastic head to head with my National  
Steel and Dobro. It would be fantastic to travel with. These wood  
guitars sound really good and are really packable. The neck folds!

http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/



They're super light, so they're well suited for adding various  
electronics. What really impressed me was when I saw this video of  
David Wilcox's setup. He has saddle pickups and mikes inside, along  
with aMIDI-out, so he can trigger notes an octave lower for a real  
satisfying low tone. The Rainsong, unlike wooden guitars, can tilt  
the saddle pins at an angle to more easily allow low bass string  
setting like low B or A.


Of course RainSongs don't need a truss rod, so necks stay as they  
were made. The sound board doesn't pull up either.

[FairfieldLife] Gadaffi running for GOP in New Hampshire

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
http://www.borowitzreport.com/2011/08/22/gaddafi-found-running-for-republican-nomination-2/

In announcing his candidacy, the Libyan madman joins a Republican field
which is believed to number in excess of seven hundred candidates.

“In those final days in Tripoli he was becoming increasingly disconnected
from reality,” said the aide.  “So I think he’ll fit right in.”

Additionally, some felt that his rhetoric needed to be toned down,
especially his closing line about fighting for the Republican nomination
'until the last drop of blood.'

But others gave him high marks for his grasp of history and geography,
which most agreed was stronger than Michele Bachmann’s.

“Unfortunately for Muammar Gaddafi, he might be out of step with the current
crop of Republican candidates,” one pollster said.  “There’s a perception
that he’s too moderate.”


[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-26 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
 
  Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
  http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
 
 
 One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice cream
 parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of sulfates
 and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
 
 Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for Cheyenne
 in an hour.

* * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, Tom. And you're 
quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, there is no where but now 
here, ever only the one stage. ISness is our business. 

But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, steeds 
a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia does; Alaska.)

We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes ... higher, 
... higher! 

Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.

Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... Throat and ... 
Brow and ... Crow-hown!

And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to Pratyahara, to 
Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home where we have always and 
all ways been, here and now, in the radiantly Cheyenning secret Sacred Heart 
amidst the nine. The one stage IS Now, ever has been, and always shall be, 
whirled without end, Amen.



Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Listen to Mike Malloy here...'

2011-08-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/25/2011 08:24 PM, Robert wrote:
 Revolutionary Radio Guy...
   
 http://www.mikemalloy.com/stations/

You can get archives here:
http://whiterosesociety.org/

Unfortunately the latest is June 27th.  A week ago at the end of his 
first hour Mike Malloy was talking about Transcendental Meditation and 
the Maharishi Effect.  He was referring to it comparing crazy Christians 
with people who practice meditation.

Malloy's characterization of conservatives is always hilarious!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread obbajeeba



Arrest all the musicians, using arsenal, tasers, bombs, kevlar bullet proof 
vests, Humvees, jet fighters, helicopters, agent orange, etc., before the 
musicians use up all the wood in the forests to play music for themselves, 
family and neighbors and fans! Yeah, yeah, and they don't cut their hair, 
un-stabilizing the cosmetic markets!
 The  Terrorists that they are!  Damn, they invest their money in saving whales 
and baby seals and other non profit foundation write offs too!
Whoa!  Arrest the musicians who take their guitars and smash them all over the 
stage at every show!  
How does one get any peace in this world if they are always makin noise  
You want peace, bring on the war, cuz war is peace!

Ranting gone wild, sorry. 

Well, at least this whole thing will bump up the cost of a good guitar now. : )


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding factories 
 and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood, 
 electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a 
 statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, 
 defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice 
 Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized 
 Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he 
 said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of overly 
 broad laws to make the company cry uncle.
 
 Article here:
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html
 
 Interesting situation to put many musicians in.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7
Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = peace), 
Rory!:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
  
   Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
   http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
  
  
  One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice cream
  parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of sulfates
  and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
  
  Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for Cheyenne
  in an hour.
 
 * * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, Tom. And 
 you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, there is no where 
 but now here, ever only the one stage. ISness is our business. 
 
 But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, steeds 
 a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia does; Alaska.)
 
 We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes ... 
 higher, ... higher! 
 
 Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.
 
 Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... Throat and 
 ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!
 
 And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to Pratyahara, to 
 Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home where we have always and 
 all ways been, here and now, in the radiantly Cheyenning secret Sacred Heart 
 amidst the nine. The one stage IS Now, ever has been, and always shall be, 
 whirled without end, Amen.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread jpgillam
The two presidential administrations faced or are facing two different economic 
problems. Reagan was president when the Federal Reserve squeezed inflation 
away. The economy suffered for a bit, then bounded back - probably spurred by 
the spending derided below.

Obama became president when the West entered a period of massive deleveraging. 
Everyone is paying down debt. Our houses are worth less than we're paying on 
them. Escalating healthcare costs are consuming increases in productivity. The 
only way out may be fiscal stimulus, but it goes against the culture of paying 
down debt.

Today's problem is entirely different from that of 1980, and will take longer 
to correct.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of sparaig
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:31 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?
 
  
 
   
 
 Google: reagan tax cut myth
 e.g.
 
 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20030729-503544.html
 
 And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, 
 it continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, 
 skyrocketing from $700 billion to $3 trillion. 
 
 that's an increase of 400 percent over 8 years.
 
 People are bitching about Obama's increases to the debt, which are a tiny 
 fraction of Reagan's.
 
 Lawson
 
 My conservative friend responded: 
 
 Exactly, you are stuck in your liberal bias.  Too bad.  Living a lie isn’t 
 good your health. The debt increased under Reagan because the congress was 
 controlled totally by democrats.  Every budget Reagan sent up there was 
 thrown out.  Let’s see, Reagan under the Dems had an increase of less than 
 $300 billion a year.  Obama, again under most Dems has had a $1.5 trillion 
 increase in debt per year.  If $300 billion a year is bad, isn’t $1.5 
 trillion 5 times worse?  Also, you want more revenue and have the “rich” 
 may more, right?  Under Reagan tax revenues increased by a very large amount 
 and upper income people paid a lot more:  
 http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm
 
  
 
 But again, I guess facts simply don’t matter.  What seems to matter is to 
 punish success and reward failure.  What a crazy world you live in.  
 Rewarding success leads to more success.  Rewarding failure leads to more 
 failure.  This simply economic logic seems to baffle liberals.
 
  
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
 , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  
  Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics 
  
  
  One program for recovery worked, and the other hasn't.
  
  
  * By http://online.wsj.com/search/term..html?KEYWORDS=STEPHEN+MOORE 
  http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=STEPHEN+MOOREbylinesearch=true
   bylinesearch=true STEPHEN MOORE 
  
  If you really want to light the fuse of a liberal Democrat, compare Barack 
  Obama's economic performance after 30 months in office with that of Ronald 
  Reagan. It's not at all flattering for Mr. Obama. 
  
  The two presidents have a lot in common. Both inherited an American economy 
  in collapse. And both applied daring, expensive remedies. Mr. Reagan passed 
  the biggest tax cut ever, combined with an agenda of deregulation, monetary 
  restraint and spending controls. Mr. Obama, of course, has given us a $1 
  trillion spending stimulus. 
  
  By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was 
  soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. 
  In 1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the 
  economy would overheat. In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping 
  along at barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a 
  double-dip recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning 
  in America. Today there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight. 
  
  My purpose here is not more Reagan idolatry, but to point out an 
  incontrovertible truth: One program for recovery worked, and the other 
  hasn't.
  
  The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize productionâ€i.e., the supply 
  side of the economyâ€by lowering restraints on business expansion and 
  investment. This was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, 
  eliminating regulatory high hurdles, and reining in inflation with a 
  tighter monetary policy.
  
  View Full Image
  
  
  
  stevemoore http://si.wsj.net/img/BTN_insetClose.gif 
  
  stevemoore 
  http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/ED-AO139_stevem_G_20110825162903.jpg
   
  
  The Keynesians in the early 1980s assured us that the Reagan expansion 
  would not and could not happen. Rapid growth with new jobs and falling 
  rates of inflation (to 4% in 1983 from 13% in 1980) is an impossibility in 
  Keynesian textbooks. If you increase demand, prices go up. If you 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7
for traveling ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/23n626

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 Those RainSong guitars look great, I have never played one.  My guitar 
 student showed up with a composite, very light, resonator from Beltona and it 
 sounded fantastic head to head with my National Steel and Dobro.  It would be 
 fantastic to travel with.  These wood guitars sound really good and are 
 really packable. The neck folds! 
 http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
  
   Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding  
   factories
   and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood,
   electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a
   statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz,
   defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice
   Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized
   Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he
   said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of  
   overly
   broad laws to make the company cry uncle.
  
  
  I routinely take a handmade six- or 12-string when I go across the  
  border to Canada, which I do often - both with rosewood and ebony.  
  Looks like it's time to buy the RainSong 12-string I've been wanting!
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Arrest all the musicians, using arsenal, tasers, bombs, kevlar 
 bullet proof vests, Humvees, jet fighters, helicopters, agent 
 orange, etc., before the musicians use up all the wood in the 
 forests to play music for themselves, family and neighbors and 
 fans! Yeah, yeah, and they don't cut their hair, un-stabilizing 
 the cosmetic markets!
  The  Terrorists that they are!  Damn, they invest their money 
 in saving whales and baby seals and other non profit foundation 
 write offs too!
 Whoa!  Arrest the musicians who take their guitars and smash 
 them all over the stage at every show!  
 How does one get any peace in this world if they are always 
 makin noise  You want peace, bring on the war, cuz war is 
 peace!
 
 Ranting gone wild, sorry. 
 
 Well, at least this whole thing will bump up the cost of a 
 good guitar now. : )

If you want a really good guitar, you might have to
trade up to one made by Linda Manzer. From what I've
heard, hers are even ecologically sound because she
makes them from ancient logs she finds by wandering
Canadian beaches. 

http://www.manzer.com/guitars/

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding factories 
  and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood, 
  electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a 
  statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, 
  defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice 
  Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized 
  Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he 
  said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of overly 
  broad laws to make the company cry uncle.
  
  Article here:
  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html
  
  Interesting situation to put many musicians in.
 





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of jpgillam
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:23 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

 

  

The two presidential administrations faced or are facing two different
economic problems. Reagan was president when the Federal Reserve squeezed
inflation away. The economy suffered for a bit, then bounded back - probably
spurred by the spending derided below.

Obama became president when the West entered a period of massive
deleveraging. Everyone is paying down debt. Our houses are worth less than
we're paying on them. Escalating healthcare costs are consuming increases in
productivity. The only way out may be fiscal stimulus, but it goes against
the culture of paying down debt.

Today's problem is entirely different from that of 1980, and will take
longer to correct.

Thanks Patrick. I'll send that off to my friend, and pretend I wrote it, so
I seem smarter than I am. Stick around; he'll probably reply.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Buy (or own) a Gibson guitar -- go to jail?

2011-08-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 for traveling ;-)
 
 http://tinyurl.com/23n626

My favorite travel guitar. I do not own one, and am 
not the guitarist to do justice to one if I did, but
I admit to wanting one ever since I saw it in the 
window of a music store in my town. Visually, it's
a work of art.

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/guitar/silent_guitar/#

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  Those RainSong guitars look great, I have never played one.  My guitar 
  student showed up with a composite, very light, resonator from Beltona and 
  it sounded fantastic head to head with my National Steel and Dobro.  It 
  would be fantastic to travel with.  These wood guitars sound really good 
  and are really packable. The neck folds! 
  http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
   
Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding  
factories
and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood,
electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a
statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz,
defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice
Department of bullying the company. The wood the government seized
Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier, he
said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of  
overly
broad laws to make the company cry uncle.
   
   
   I routinely take a handmade six- or 12-string when I go across the  
   border to Canada, which I do often - both with rosewood and ebony.  
   Looks like it's time to buy the RainSong 12-string I've been wanting!
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread seekliberation
I could be way off track here, but i'll give it a shot.

Since the 1950's, our society seems to have become progressively worse when it 
comes to Ponzi schemes and many other methods of making money without providing 
a legitimate good or service to others.  

If a person is not providing a 'real' good or service, then all they are doing 
is transferring 'buying power' to themselves while taking away from others.  

Since the 1950's, each generation (IMO) becomes less and less concerned with 
providing something of value, and more concerned with their wealth.  Sooner or 
later you have a vast majority of society trying to scheme their way into more 
money regardless of what they do for others.

So in terms of the original question, after Regean left office, the situation 
only got worse in terms of our country as a whole.  The whole mortgage crisis 
was started in the 1990's, and many economists predicted this way ahead of 
time.  High dollar homes were offered to lower income families who did not have 
a stable enough income to sustain the mortgage.  This concept of taking 
advantage of people who are not educated or intelligent enough to analyze 
financial offers has become much worse since Reagan's era.

I'm not saying that the generation of the 70's  80's didn't have its faults, 
but since then from what i've seen our ponzi schemes, greed,  and personal 
irresponsibility on an individual level has only gotten worse.  Our government 
is incompetent, businesses can be greedy, and the percentage of individuals who 
are capable of taking care of themselves seems to be decreasing, from my 
observation.  All this is a recipe for economic downfall.

seekliberation


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of jpgillam
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:23 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?
 
  
 
   
 
 The two presidential administrations faced or are facing two different
 economic problems. Reagan was president when the Federal Reserve squeezed
 inflation away. The economy suffered for a bit, then bounded back - probably
 spurred by the spending derided below.
 
 Obama became president when the West entered a period of massive
 deleveraging. Everyone is paying down debt. Our houses are worth less than
 we're paying on them. Escalating healthcare costs are consuming increases in
 productivity. The only way out may be fiscal stimulus, but it goes against
 the culture of paying down debt.
 
 Today's problem is entirely different from that of 1980, and will take
 longer to correct.
 
 Thanks Patrick. I'll send that off to my friend, and pretend I wrote it, so
 I seem smarter than I am. Stick around; he'll probably reply.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
Reagan's time was a time of engineers, of RD.  Of defense spending which
provided very good pay and lots of innovation (NASA, DARPA and DOD took over
from Bell Labs).   After that, it was the time of the MBAs.   I watch all
the young studly (and a couple dog like female) young DBAs.  So very
clueless.   One called me over and asked me how to graph a stock in Excel.
But they all are such pretty boy former college jocks, with their expensive
suits, their weekly haircuts.  So young, so sweet, so earnest, so hopeless.
A couple will climb to the top of the heap and affect a merger between the
two Carolinas with some ghastly high merger fee.   Thus is our time.From
high frequency radio transmission to high frequency trading.   We have met
the enemies and them's the MBAs.

Hopeless MBAs are everywhere.  Including at Ching Dow's in FF.   Endless
talk about monetizing but they'll sit there all day long until finally the
owner gets someone to accept the check.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Secret of Levitation BBC for summer time lurkers

2011-08-26 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Yes, the Rajas soar through the air for hours at a time, effortlessly of 
 course. Everyone knows that! :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:07 AM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
The all-knowing BBC  believed that nobody dared to ask  Maharishi Mahesh
   Yogi if he can and will/have use(d) his levitation skills?
   lol (actually a question  from the 60s  asked already during his India
   tours)
   check part  2-4 with MMY, and of course Hagelin, and ...
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5sxax2CvE0
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4z2Hm8jSofeature=related

In part 3 - 6, Dr. John sez:

You're changing the curvature of space and time, if you wish,
so that the gravitational force isn't pulling us down, but it's
pushing us up.

(From the linguistic point of view, that might have something
to do with the prefix 'aa' of 'aa-kaasha', pronounced
almost like 'are' in Queen's English...?)

Compare that to what Lobsang Rampa sez in Wisdom of the Ancients
(1965?):

Levitation is accomplished by a very special form of breathing which
actually rises the frequency of the body's molecular oscillations,
so that it is able to induce a form of contra-gravity.





   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnTmfqUKhMfeature=related
   YouTube Direktlink
  




Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Friends don't let Friends pay for Obamacare [1 Attachment]

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall



Re: [FairfieldLife] WTF? [1 Attachment]

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
Be very careful of spam.  Or at the least have a fire extinguisher handy,
wear asbestos gloves and a fire resistant suit.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-26 Thread RoryGoff
* * Feel it? Hell, doubtless I caused it when I asked my wife Rena to -- well, 
let's just say it was not unlike Curtis's rock me! earthquake 
siddhi-experience, but delicacy forbids me to go into the details :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = peace), 
 Rory!:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  
   On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
   
Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
   
   
   One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice cream
   parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of sulfates
   and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
   
   Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for 
   Cheyenne
   in an hour.
  
  * * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, Tom. And 
  you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, there is no 
  where but now here, ever only the one stage. ISness is our business. 
  
  But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, steeds 
  a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia does; Alaska.)
  
  We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes ... 
  higher, ... higher! 
  
  Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.
  
  Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... Throat and 
  ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!
  
  And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to Pratyahara, to 
  Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home where we have always 
  and all ways been, here and now, in the radiantly Cheyenning secret Sacred 
  Heart amidst the nine. The one stage IS Now, ever has been, and always 
  shall be, whirled without end, Amen.
 





[FairfieldLife] Can you do this with an iPhone?

2011-08-26 Thread cardemaister

http://mobilegeekinc.com/2010/09/26/nokia-n8-usb-otg-hidden-features/

I bet you can...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-26 Thread Ravi Yogi


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
 
  Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
  http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
 
 
 One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice cream
 parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of sulfates
 and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
 
 Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for Cheyenne
 in an hour.


I had one of my best experiences with cops while driving through Wyoming with 
my kid. I pulled over on a freeway to change the kid's diaper. A cop stop by, 
steps out and asks me if I need any help. As soon as I said I was OK he just 
turned back and left ! Imagine a similar situation in Cali. I also loved the 
fact I could consistently speed at 85-95 miles per hour without worrying about 
getting a ticket.



[FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING

2011-08-26 Thread wleed3











---BeginMessage---


Begin forwarded message:

 From: j...@ptd.net
 Date: August 26, 2011 5:27:06 PM EDT
 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@proxyz13.mailnet.ptd.net
 Subject: Fw: Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING
 
 
 
 --
 From: dugmack dugm...@ptd.net
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:32 PM
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 andersen ganders...@verizon.net; cliff martin j...@ptd.net; rick 
 rkerch...@comcast.net; barry michael liftm...@ptd.net; george masters 
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 randyr...@herrindustrial.com; baxter brianbax...@herrindustrial.com; 
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 Subject: Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING
 
 
 
 - Forwarded Message -
 From: nckoh...@comcast.net
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:08:41 PM
 Subject: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING!!
 
 Sent by Retired Vice Admiral Bob Scarborough, of Arlington , Va.
 
I wanted to give you all some disturbing information on our wonderful 
 president. I work with the Catch-A-Dream Foundation, which provides hunting 
 and fishing trips to children with life-threatening illnesses. This past 
 weekend we had our annual banquet/fundraiser event in Starkville . As a part 
 of our program, we had scheduled Sgt. 1st Class Greg Stube to come; he's a 
 highly decorated U.S.   Army Green Beret and inspirational speaker who was 
 severely injured while deployed overseas and didn't have much of a chance 
 for survival. Greg is stationed at Ft. Bragg , NC and received permission 
 from his commanding officer to come speak at our function.  Everything was 
 on go until Obama made a policy that NO U.S. SERVICEMAN CAN SPEAK AT ANY 
 FAITH-BASED PUBLIC EVENTS ANYMORE.  Needless to say, Greg had to cancel his 
 speaking event with us. Didn't know if anyone else was aware of this new 
 policy.  You're just starting to see the Obamanation.  This is just how the 
 Nazis did it in 
 the 1930s -- slowly, one step at a time.  This should be forwarded to everyone 
regardless of party affiliation!
 
 
 
 
 
 Semper Fi
 
 
 Paymaster Louis Wayne Qualls Det. 1249
 
 
 Charles M. Campbell
 
 
 254/774-6980
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING

2011-08-26 Thread wleed3











---BeginMessage---


Begin forwarded message:

 From: j...@ptd.net
 Date: August 26, 2011 5:27:06 PM EDT
 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@proxyz13.mailnet.ptd.net
 Subject: Fw: Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING
 
 
 
 --
 From: dugmack dugm...@ptd.net
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:32 PM
 To: Ihike ih...@dejazzd.com; ted t...@unruhinsurance.com; 
 Tedrathman tedrath...@yahoo.com; Kirbys kir...@rsensenig.com; gary 
 andersen ganders...@verizon.net; cliff martin j...@ptd.net; rick 
 rkerch...@comcast.net; barry michael liftm...@ptd.net; george masters 
 mastergeorg...@yahoo.com; ob brianw...@herrindustrial.com; romie 
 randyr...@herrindustrial.com; baxter brianbax...@herrindustrial.com; 
 Mac McCampbell macmccampb...@herrindustrial.com
 Subject: Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING
 
 
 
 - Forwarded Message -
 From: nckoh...@comcast.net
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:08:41 PM
 Subject: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING!!
 
 Sent by Retired Vice Admiral Bob Scarborough, of Arlington , Va.
 
I wanted to give you all some disturbing information on our wonderful 
 president. I work with the Catch-A-Dream Foundation, which provides hunting 
 and fishing trips to children with life-threatening illnesses. This past 
 weekend we had our annual banquet/fundraiser event in Starkville . As a part 
 of our program, we had scheduled Sgt. 1st Class Greg Stube to come; he's a 
 highly decorated U.S.   Army Green Beret and inspirational speaker who was 
 severely injured while deployed overseas and didn't have much of a chance 
 for survival. Greg is stationed at Ft. Bragg , NC and received permission 
 from his commanding officer to come speak at our function.  Everything was 
 on go until Obama made a policy that NO U.S. SERVICEMAN CAN SPEAK AT ANY 
 FAITH-BASED PUBLIC EVENTS ANYMORE.  Needless to say, Greg had to cancel his 
 speaking event with us. Didn't know if anyone else was aware of this new 
 policy.  You're just starting to see the Obamanation.  This is just how the 
 Nazis did it in 
 the 1930s -- slowly, one step at a time.  This should be forwarded to everyone 
regardless of party affiliation!
 
 
 
 
 
 Semper Fi
 
 
 Paymaster Louis Wayne Qualls Det. 1249
 
 
 Charles M. Campbell
 
 
 254/774-6980
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

---End Message---


Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:53 PM, wleed3 wle...@aol.com wrote:


Chaplains can't mention God or Our Lord.   Yet if you want to progress
through the ranks/ratings in most outfits/ships/bases/camps you have to
attend the same church as the whatever commander, praise the Lord,
sprinkle your language and your upgradings with the proper Christian cues
and of course if you're gay bring your best friend's wife or g/f to the
ball.   Does anyone remember the indoctrination the Marines at Camp
Pendlleton were receiving from their CO about gays in the military?The
big objections where that being gay was against the religion of the recruits
and lower level officers.  But, killing isn't against their religion.
Maiming, killing wives, children, kill them all and let God sort them out is
a religious duty, respected by the entire US military hierarchy, despite
Obama's show and bravado.   So, a soldier can't address a faith based
address by a US soldier but the prez can pursue DOMA with a passion because
it's his duty as president.  So of course his implementing his DREAM act by
having Homeland Security prioritize INS hearing for those who might in the
future qualify for Obama's DREAM is his duty as well?

Heck, I even was expected to go to the same church as the astronauts during
the Apollo program and I was a civilian.

What's next?  Is he going to pardon the Indianapolis 500?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: New Poster

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, wleed3 wle...@aol.com wrote:

I didn't even know the US ran on batteries.  Now France, they deserve a AAA
rating.  As does Switzerland and Germany.   If you /ARE/Nato you lose your
rating.  If you don't need a standing army/navy/marine coups you get a AAA
rating.  So if you do heavy lifting, if the Euro is about to
disintegrate, well, OK.  But don't be the most powerful nation in the world.
  Try it and you have to go searching at Wal-Mart for a different set of
batteries.


RE: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING

2011-08-26 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wleed3
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:54 PM
To: David Grodjesk; fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING

 

  Bullshit: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/faithbased.asp



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote:

 ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia!

 Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already...

Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to 
India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The 
trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above 
Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned 
to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. 
From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh...
   
   Plus a little help from having stolen the entire 
   concept from Xerox Parc labs.  :-)
  
  Apple paid for the visit and subsequent use of the ideas by 
  allowing Xerox to purchase $1 million in stock options at a 
  minimalist price which is now probably worth many billions 
  of dollars, had they held on to it.
  
  Xerox was so dismal in how they utilized the technology that 
  the entire team that developed the GUI, object oriented 
  programming, etc., eventually ended up working for APple a 
  few years later because they were annoyed at how unproductive 
  working for Xerox proved to be.
  
  Apple didn't steal anything.
 
 One thing you can say about being an apologist for
 one cult leader is that it's good practice for being
 an apologist for another one.


Great comeback...

Except, where is your explanation of why you disagree with my conclusion?

L.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-26 Thread whynotnow7
...subtlety is always a virtue :-0)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * Feel it? Hell, doubtless I caused it when I asked my wife Rena to -- 
 well, let's just say it was not unlike Curtis's rock me! earthquake 
 siddhi-experience, but delicacy forbids me to go into the details :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = peace), 
  Rory!:-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
   
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:

 Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg


One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice cream
parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of 
sulfates
and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.

Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for 
Cheyenne
in an hour.
   
   * * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, Tom. And 
   you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, there is no 
   where but now here, ever only the one stage. ISness is our business. 
   
   But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, steeds 
   a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia does; 
   Alaska.)
   
   We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes ... 
   higher, ... higher! 
   
   Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.
   
   Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... Throat 
   and ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!
   
   And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to Pratyahara, to 
   Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home where we have always 
   and all ways been, here and now, in the radiantly Cheyenning secret 
   Sacred Heart amidst the nine. The one stage IS Now, ever has been, and 
   always shall be, whirled without end, Amen.
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:



 *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *wleed3
 *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2011 4:54 PM
 *To:* David Grodjesk; fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Fwd: OBAMA STOPS WOUNDED SOLDIER FROM SPEAKING*
 ***

 ** **

   Bullshit: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/faithbased.asp



Yes, you are nothing but Bullshit, Oh great owner of FFL.   Prove that the
other statements are false.   Just coincidence that the briefing at Camp
Pendleton, CA had disappeared from Youtube?   Kill, but don't allow a gay
near you because it's against your religion.  It can be found in the
archives, perhaps.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Third attack in a week

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, wleed3 wle...@aol.com wrote:

Give it up.  One Martin Luther KIng JR. Is worth one president of the United
States.  We have up the tradition of Lincoln and Washington's birthday so we
could have MLK day.

Perhaps we'll give up President's day so we can have Stonewall Day.   And we
can give up the 4th of July so we can have Che Guevara's Day.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-26 Thread RoryGoff
* * Yeah, especially when it comes to the siddhis. But in all honesty, I 
probably just made this story up, because my mind does love creating patterns 
out of chaos.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 ...subtlety is always a virtue :-0)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * Feel it? Hell, doubtless I caused it when I asked my wife Rena to -- 
  well, let's just say it was not unlike Curtis's rock me! earthquake 
  siddhi-experience, but delicacy forbids me to go into the details :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = peace), 
   Rory!:-)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
  http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
 
 
 One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice 
 cream
 parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of 
 sulfates
 and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
 
 Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for 
 Cheyenne
 in an hour.

* * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, Tom. 
And you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, there is 
no where but now here, ever only the one stage. ISness is our business. 

But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, 
steeds a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia 
does; Alaska.)

We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes ... 
higher, ... higher! 

Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.

Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... Throat 
and ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!

And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to Pratyahara, 
to Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home where we have 
always and all ways been, here and now, in the radiantly Cheyenning 
secret Sacred Heart amidst the nine. The one stage IS Now, ever has 
been, and always shall be, whirled without end, Amen.
   
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone have a good rebuttal to this article?

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
Dont' forget, Richter, that for religious reasons we are required to send
$billions to Israel. And invite them to spy on us at the highest level.
It's a religious commitment, isn't it, Richter?  Israel ueber Alles.   Fess
up.  Come on, a little truth and reconciliation would be appreciated from He
Who's Too Busy to Post to FFL Unless His Name is mentioned or He wants to
make his unbiased Point By Posting an Anonymous Writer's Words.

Coward.


[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-08-26 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] One Flew Over the Rainbow

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
by Dave MacDowell
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33578.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Lucid Dreamer

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
MacDowell
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33569.jpg



[FairfieldLife] featuring Sahib Bangdi

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
In the Kabir Tradition, a variant of Sant Mat
http://www.spiritualtube.com/spiritualvideos?title=sahib_bandgivideo=87u7RJokSYo=



[FairfieldLife] Breakfast Hawks

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33547.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Way of Mystics

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
http://wayofmystics.webs.com/thepath.htm



[FairfieldLife] Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread authfriend
I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out of 
here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when I'm coming 
back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a computer, so you 
won't hear from me for at least several days.

Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!




[FairfieldLife] Art of Punjab

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
http://artofpunjab.com/gallery.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread RoryGoff
* * You too, Judy! Love you!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out of 
 here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when I'm 
 coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a computer, 
 so you won't hear from me for at least several days.
 
 Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!





Re: [FairfieldLife] Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:17 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out
 of here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when I'm
 coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a computer,
 so you won't hear from me for at least several days.

 Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!


May God bless and KEEP you, Judy.  I am right now in central NC.  NC more
than deserve the wrath of God but it's only going to hit the eastern part of
the state.   With any luck at all, NYC will be knocked out of business.
You can always tell a New Yorker but you can't tell him much.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread John
Judy,

Take care of yourself.  We'll be waiting for your safe return.

JR

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out of 
 here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when I'm 
 coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a computer, 
 so you won't hear from me for at least several days.
 
 Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
Well good luck Judy and stay safe as well !!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it
out of here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure
when I'm coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access
to a computer, so you won't hear from me for at least several days.

 Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:

 .. the Dalai Lama is always smiling, charming,
 diplomatic. Talks about love, compassion, helping suffering people.


 Wait just a minute.  Who are you talking about?  This sounds just like
 Amma.


Sounds like Amma but not quite. Sure the PR people may spin her as a
humanitarian in the likes of Teresa to attract the pain projecting
liberals, but she's much beyond it. There is a lot of difference between
the practice of love vs radiating true love and compassion from an inner
fullness. A practice of love, fake smile is always attractive than the
paradox of a real Satguru.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:

 Snip

  But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and
downs, too many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith,
trust and commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in
totality.
 
  No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis
choose Buddhism.
 

 Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi?  Ethno-centric bias is so
predictable.  So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly
enough conclude that the stories they tell are the rightest ones.  How
convenient!

Hmm, no, not right stories, the wrong ones too, the good , bad and the
ugly, stories of love and hatred, war and peace, life in its all
fullness. Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
likes of pain projecting liberals like you.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out of 
 here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when I'm 
 coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a computer, 
 so you won't hear from me for at least several days.
 
 Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!


The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey are shutting down trains noon 
Saturday. Travel by car will be a mess. Hope you don't get in any crawl along 
by the inch traffic jams. Stay out of harms way and travel safely. I'll miss 
you. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out 
  of here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when I'm 
  coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a 
  computer, so you won't hear from me for at least several days.
  
  Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!
 
 The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey are shutting
 down trains noon Saturday. Travel by car will be a mess. Hope
 you don't get in any crawl along by the inch traffic jams.
 Stay out of harms way and travel safely. I'll miss you.

I'm taking an early train. I'll be where I'm going well before
they shut down NJ Transit. I'm not going that far inland, but
I'll be west of I-95 and out of the very worst of it.

Thanks, raunchy and everyone, for the good wishes. It's going
to be one hell of a mess along the whole East Coast.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
 out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
 consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
 likes of pain projecting liberals like you.


Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?  

I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that means.

Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.




 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Snip
 
   But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and
 downs, too many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith,
 trust and commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in
 totality.
  
   No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis
 choose Buddhism.
  
 
  Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi?  Ethno-centric bias is so
 predictable.  So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly
 enough conclude that the stories they tell are the rightest ones.  How
 convenient!
 
 Hmm, no, not right stories, the wrong ones too, the good , bad and the
 ugly, stories of love and hatred, war and peace, life in its all
 fullness. Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
 out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
 consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
 likes of pain projecting liberals like you.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
I'm not sure what the implications of being a child of something are. Our 
universe could be the offspring of anther. What became (eventually) 
Christianity can be said to be born of Judaism - although I can't find any 
mention of the early so-called Christians thinking of themselves other than 
Jews. It appears that everything is a child of something else; and yet a parent 
too. 
...
Stained glass window, Sulkowski Castle, Poland:
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49277.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
 Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
  out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
  consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
  likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
 
 
 Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?  
 
 I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that means.
 
 Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   Snip
  
But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and
  downs, too many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith,
  trust and commitment. Only with love can you  accept a person in
  totality.
   
No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis
  choose Buddhism.
   
  
   Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi?  Ethno-centric bias is so
  predictable.  So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly
  enough conclude that the stories they tell are the rightest ones.  How
  convenient!
  
  Hmm, no, not right stories, the wrong ones too, the good , bad and the
  ugly, stories of love and hatred, war and peace, life in its all
  fullness. Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
  out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
  consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
  likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
 





[FairfieldLife] When Yoko ate Ringo

2011-08-26 Thread Yifu
Dave MacDowell
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33604.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread seventhray1


I feel like my buttons are being pushed.  I wonder if it will even be
half as big as predicted.  It can't be any bigger. I guess no one wants
to take the risk of underplaying it and then being accused of being non
caring with the big  election cycle coming up.  I can just see the ads
now.  But I'm saying this thing will underwhelm.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@...
wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing
it out of here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not
sure when I'm coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have
access to a computer, so you won't hear from me for at least several
days.
 
  Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe,
please!
 

 The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey are shutting down trains
noon Saturday. Travel by car will be a mess. Hope you don't get in any
crawl along by the inch traffic jams. Stay out of harms way and travel
safely. I'll miss you.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-26 Thread raunchydog
The trains are going to be crowded, use sharp elbows. I have a brother living 
in Ewing NJ west of 95. On a map it appears inland enough to escape flooding, 
but hang on to your hat it's going to be windy. I'll keep my fingers crossed 
where you live escapes damage.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   I live right on the coast, a block from the beach. I'm hightailing it out 
   of here tomorrow morning, going inland to wait out Irene. Not sure when 
   I'm coming back; depends on local conditions. I won't have access to a 
   computer, so you won't hear from me for at least several days.
   
   Good luck to any other FFLers in the storm's path. Stay safe, please!
  
  The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey are shutting
  down trains noon Saturday. Travel by car will be a mess. Hope
  you don't get in any crawl along by the inch traffic jams.
  Stay out of harms way and travel safely. I'll miss you.
 
 I'm taking an early train. I'll be where I'm going well before
 they shut down NJ Transit. I'm not going that far inland, but
 I'll be west of I-95 and out of the very worst of it.
 
 Thanks, raunchy and everyone, for the good wishes. It's going
 to be one hell of a mess along the whole East Coast.