[FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: Occupy the Domes!!)

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 No, the guidelines are very much un-changed.  Maybe in Europe you have
 a more liberal interpretation of what is there in the guidelines to
accommodate
 people seeing saints.  However, if you came or moved to Fairfield
you'd not be
 able to get a valid dome badge as the guidelines are written.  They
still keep
 people out for sitting with saints.

 I just was read through the guidelines in re-applying for the dome
meditation.
 The guidelines are still very much un-changed and anti-saint.  The
guidelines
 are a communal obstacle for gathering dome numbers.

Nabby hasn't tried to enter a TMO butt-bouncing facility for years.
That's why he still believes they'd let him in. Either that or he knows
the nazis-in-charge. :-)

 
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75_1637770481_1936918_1687520054_n.jpg]




[FairfieldLife] Filmreview Valley Of Flowers by Pan Nalin

2011-11-23 Thread merudanda
If you do get opportunity to see Valley's Director's Cut don't miss it.
However, If you are going to see the butchered version of 2hr then you
better visit the official website of the film
(http://www.skydesign.in/archive/Monsoon_Films/) and understand the
story and background.
Here the online free version

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL204870DC321128C7

Valley Of Flowers (2006) Directed by Pan Nalin
What a breathtaking view: horses galloping through the dust of the wide,
arid desert valley surrounded by snow-capped mountains of the Himalayas!
How difficult the filming in such heights of up to 5000 meter must have
been


Valley has a Japanese MANGA an Ang Lee's  wuxia film like quality and an
interwoven web of deep Asian philosophy. Rarely a theme of love, longing
and immortality has been so well depicted before a hymn to harmony in
nature, balance among demons and humans, good and evil, life and death,
black and white. It is a poetic telling of reincarnation and karma.
Palin invites us inside with warm Asian hospitality but does not give us
keys to all the doors
There are breathtaking moments in Valley… like appearance of Ushna,
levitated lovemaking, valley of silence, time-walk and final climax in
Japan. Cinematography is superb and the casting is near perfect.
Himalayan landscapes are awesome. Towards the end the entire resolution
of the saga happens in modern-day Tokyo and that is destructive and
divine –like most Asian myths. Pan Nalin's regard on Tokyo and Japan
is very sensitive and subtle.
The film is full of codes, most are difficult to decipher unless you pay
close attention. Followers of Eastern Religion and Philosophy will be
able to point out these symbols.. Valley… isa very bold step in
unexplored territories and comes out strong as a scriptwriter , 
director, filmmaker with exceptional talent and  with guts (connect the
faith in the rebirth of a debate on euthanasia.-Real life Aghoris and
Yogis are in the cast, some of the highest shots ever taken for a
fiction film at the altitude of approx. 6,600 metres (20,000 feet) in
the Himalayas,.to watch out for.
In thisParallel Cinema Parallel Cinema IMHO Valley of Flowers invents
its own genre -thus it is non-classifiable.
  Remind  us of Antonioni's The Passenger -the lead, Jack Nicholson
plays reporter who does his time in the desert and steals identity of a
dead arm trafficker. Then he meets Maria Schneider character, love
blossoms and together they travel into the oblivion... Like Jelan and
Usna of Valley of Flowers
Spanning over one thousand years, and three parallel stories, The
Fountain seems to be Western version of a similiar nonlinear and
ambiguous story of love, death, spirituality, and the fragility of our
existence in this world
The Fountain ( death is the road to awe )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOZuQ_r3ROY
BTW For the Theosophist on this forum:Valley of Flowersseems to be
based on motifs of the novel, love spells and black magic: Adventures in
Tibet (Original: Magic d'amour et magie noire) by Theosophist  Mystic,
anarchist, occultist and traveller, Louise Eugenie Alexandrine Marie
David
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_David-N%C3%A9el
http://www.alexandra-david-neel.org/images/dn73.jpg
ONLINE BOOK :Alexandra David-Neel:Explorer at the Roof of the World
http://books.google.com/books?id=FHo1fFHartsCpg=PA8hl=desource=gbs_to\
c_rcad=4#v=onepageqf=false
http://tinyurl.com/3e7ad4x

On the 28th February 1973, the ashes of  101 years old !Alexandra
David-Neel, the first western woman to enter Tibet, along with those
of her adopted son, Lama Yongden, were scattered over the waters of the
Ganges at the holy city of Benares. On 15 October, 1982, and from May 21
to 26, 1986, His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama (Tenzin Gyatso) paid her
tribute by coming to Digne to visit her house. Samten-Dzong now contains
a museum and is the head office of The Alexandra David-Néel Cultural
Centre. Visitors to the museum can see Alexandra's arm chair, cane,
a necklace of gold coins from Prince Sidkeong of Sikkim, and meditation
beads from the Gomchen of Lachen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEF_BZKPN0Q

http://www.alexandra-david-neel.org/anglais/acca.htm




[FairfieldLife] Re: Uselessness of the TM Sidhis technique for levitation

2011-11-23 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any 
  known TM Sidha, and (b) numerous Catholic Saints have been witnessed 
  demonstrating genuine levitation; a first step in a scientific enguiry 
  might be to compare what differs with TM and the meditation techniques used 
  by the Saints - that enabled them to levitate.
 
 The difference is these Catholic saints had real spiritual development, most 
 TM'ers (or any other types of meditators) aren't that spiritually advanced.
 
 These Siddhas will wear out their knees and legs WAY before they ever 
 levitate.  The body wasn't designed by the creator to hop like a frog (or any 
 other creature).


Except for the fact that there is no wear or tear on the knees during TMSP when 
done according to instruction.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 snip
  Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are
  actually not links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic,
  move it around but I can't plop it into a browser because,
  well, it's a graphic control.

 If you use Yahoo's Rich Text Editor, right-click the graphic,
 click Copy, and then paste it into the message window with
 Ctrl-V. (That's how it works with IE, at any rate. Copying
 the image puts it on the Windows Clipboard.) Doesn't always
 work, but usually it does.



Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a post
is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some picture
and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate here except
by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you mention isn't
worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I did just fine in
4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or stay
developmentally arrested there.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Filmreview Valley Of Flowers by Pan Nalin

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
Thanks for the heads-up, Meru. I managed to find an 
unedited French version of it with English subs, just 
in the time since you posted this. I look forward to 
watching it as soon as I have time.

Did you ever see Windhorse? Filmed secretly inside
modern-day Tibet, because the production would not
have been allowed if they filmed it openly. Most of
the cast in the credits is listed as Name withheld
out of necessity. It's a lovely film but it does
dispel any romantic ideas one might have of Tibet
ever regaining its independence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-dlGYfvWBs

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 If you do get opportunity to see Valley's Director's Cut don't miss it.
 However, If you are going to see the butchered version of 2hr then you
 better visit the official website of the film
 (http://www.skydesign.in/archive/Monsoon_Films/) and understand the
 story and background.
 Here the online free version
 
 http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL204870DC321128C7
 
 Valley Of Flowers (2006) Directed by Pan Nalin
 What a breathtaking view: horses galloping through the dust of the wide,
 arid desert valley surrounded by snow-capped mountains of the Himalayas!
 How difficult the filming in such heights of up to 5000 meter must have
 been
 
 
 Valley has a Japanese MANGA an Ang Lee's  wuxia film like quality and an
 interwoven web of deep Asian philosophy. Rarely a theme of love, longing
 and immortality has been so well depicted before a hymn to harmony in
 nature, balance among demons and humans, good and evil, life and death,
 black and white. It is a poetic telling of reincarnation and karma.
 Palin invites us inside with warm Asian hospitality but does not give us
 keys to all the doors
 There are breathtaking moments in Valley… like appearance of Ushna,
 levitated lovemaking, valley of silence, time-walk and final climax in
 Japan. Cinematography is superb and the casting is near perfect.
 Himalayan landscapes are awesome. Towards the end the entire resolution
 of the saga happens in modern-day Tokyo and that is destructive and
 divine –like most Asian myths. Pan Nalin's regard on Tokyo and Japan
 is very sensitive and subtle.
 The film is full of codes, most are difficult to decipher unless you pay
 close attention. Followers of Eastern Religion and Philosophy will be
 able to point out these symbols.. Valley… isa very bold step in
 unexplored territories and comes out strong as a scriptwriter , 
 director, filmmaker with exceptional talent and  with guts (connect the
 faith in the rebirth of a debate on euthanasia.-Real life Aghoris and
 Yogis are in the cast, some of the highest shots ever taken for a
 fiction film at the altitude of approx. 6,600 metres (20,000 feet) in
 the Himalayas,.to watch out for.
 In thisParallel Cinema Parallel Cinema IMHO Valley of Flowers invents
 its own genre -thus it is non-classifiable.
   Remind  us of Antonioni's The Passenger -the lead, Jack Nicholson
 plays reporter who does his time in the desert and steals identity of a
 dead arm trafficker. Then he meets Maria Schneider character, love
 blossoms and together they travel into the oblivion... Like Jelan and
 Usna of Valley of Flowers
 Spanning over one thousand years, and three parallel stories, The
 Fountain seems to be Western version of a similiar nonlinear and
 ambiguous story of love, death, spirituality, and the fragility of our
 existence in this world
 The Fountain ( death is the road to awe )
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOZuQ_r3ROY
 BTW For the Theosophist on this forum:Valley of Flowersseems to be
 based on motifs of the novel, love spells and black magic: Adventures in
 Tibet (Original: Magic d'amour et magie noire) by Theosophist  Mystic,
 anarchist, occultist and traveller, Louise Eugenie Alexandrine Marie
 David
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_David-N%C3%A9el
 http://www.alexandra-david-neel.org/images/dn73.jpg
 ONLINE BOOK :Alexandra David-Neel:Explorer at the Roof of the World
 http://books.google.com/books?id=FHo1fFHartsCpg=PA8hl=desource=gbs_to\
 c_rcad=4#v=onepageqf=false
 http://tinyurl.com/3e7ad4x
 
 On the 28th February 1973, the ashes of  101 years old !Alexandra
 David-Neel, the first western woman to enter Tibet, along with those
 of her adopted son, Lama Yongden, were scattered over the waters of the
 Ganges at the holy city of Benares. On 15 October, 1982, and from May 21
 to 26, 1986, His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama (Tenzin Gyatso) paid her
 tribute by coming to Digne to visit her house. Samten-Dzong now contains
 a museum and is the head office of The Alexandra David-Néel Cultural
 Centre. Visitors to the museum can see Alexandra's arm chair, cane,
 a necklace of gold coins from Prince Sidkeong of Sikkim, and meditation
 beads from the Gomchen of Lachen.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEF_BZKPN0Q
 
 http://www.alexandra-david-neel.org/anglais/acca.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  snip
   Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are
   actually not links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic,
   move it around but I can't plop it into a browser because,
   well, it's a graphic control.
 
  If you use Yahoo's Rich Text Editor, right-click the graphic,
  click Copy, and then paste it into the message window with
  Ctrl-V. (That's how it works with IE, at any rate. Copying
  the image puts it on the Windows Clipboard.) Doesn't always
  work, but usually it does.
 
 
 
 Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a post
 is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some picture
 and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate here except
 by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you mention isn't
 worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
 British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I did just fine in
 4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or stay
 developmentally arrested there.


When you were in fourth grade, there was no such thing as youtube. 
Sorry school was a boring place for you, way back then. I understand. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55vtzY8f6aE

Developmentally challenged may be more like where you are arrested? 

I love Yifu's posts. Keep at it, Yifu, your art posts are like the changing of 
the scenes in the play here on FFL, while we await the next act. : )



[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  snip
   Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are
   actually not links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic,
   move it around but I can't plop it into a browser because,
   well, it's a graphic control.
 
  If you use Yahoo's Rich Text Editor, right-click the graphic,
  click Copy, and then paste it into the message window with
  Ctrl-V. (That's how it works with IE, at any rate. Copying
  the image puts it on the Windows Clipboard.) Doesn't always
  work, but usually it does.
 
 
 
 Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a post
 is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some picture
 and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate here except
 by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you mention isn't
 worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
 British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I did just fine in
 4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or stay
 developmentally arrested there.


Oh and another thing, a child would need explaining. 
Yifu's subject titles are brilliant to the pictures he posts. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw-nek2jV4E (by the way, the sound is not 
necessary to figure out in the above youtube, what is happening.) 

Let the silence in words, continue on this battlefield dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8brJ1S3VXk
: )  Have a nice day.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 I love Yifu's posts. Keep at it, Yifu, your art posts are 
 like the changing of the scenes in the play here on FFL, 
 while we await the next act. : )

And unlike many of the posters themselves, the art
can never be accused of overacting. :-)

I much prefer them to posts that some describe as
debate, but which in reality consist of hurling
the word stupid at another poster seven times
in one paragraph. One would think people would
be ashamed of having such a limited vocabulary,
but noo. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I love Yifu's posts. Keep at it, Yifu, your art posts are 
  like the changing of the scenes in the play here on FFL, 
  while we await the next act. : )
 
 And unlike many of the posters themselves, the art
 can never be accused of overacting. :-)
 
 I much prefer them to posts that some describe as
 debate, but which in reality consist of hurling
 the word stupid at another poster seven times
 in one paragraph. One would think people would
 be ashamed of having such a limited vocabulary,
 but noo. :-)


How stupid.; )



[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
  
   I love Yifu's posts. Keep at it, Yifu, your art posts are 
   like the changing of the scenes in the play here on FFL, 
   while we await the next act. : )
  
  And unlike many of the posters themselves, the art
  can never be accused of overacting. :-)
  
  I much prefer them to posts that some describe as
  debate, but which in reality consist of hurling
  the word stupid at another poster seven times
  in one paragraph. One would think people would
  be ashamed of having such a limited vocabulary,
  but noo. :-)
 
 How stupid.; )

I guess that's why the world has editors.

Oh, wait. 

Never mind.  :-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 You don't see infinite intelligence at work here Curtis?:
 http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bolinsky_animates_a_cell.html


Great video, thanks Rick.  I love TED talks.   He makes a better case for 
limited rather than infinite intelligence for me.  Despite my enthusiasm for 
the brilliance of his use of arts integrated learning, which is bound to engage 
the student's brains more completely, I am also aware that this technique is 
only as scientifically accurate as the analogous visual language is used by the 
programmer.  I was concerned with his use of the term irreducible at the 
beginning of his talk because this is not a principle in cellular biology that 
I know of.  In fact it has been specifically refuted by the knowledge we have 
of the evolution of cells.  So he may have tipped his hand too quickly and 
scientific accuracy should concern us moreso because our mind's ability to 
detect the difference between electromicroscopic images and these animations is 
absent.  I kept thinking that I was seeing into a cell, which is wonderfully 
compelling but wrong.

As a refutation of an idea of an infinite intelligence at work, I present this 
guy's body.  An obvious result of our brain's evolution where his recently 
added rational thinking processes telling him to push away from the desk and 
jog around the building he works in occasionally has been trumped by the lower 
brain's attractions to high fat high sugar food in excess of his activity.  So 
instead of dropping down and doing say 10 pushups every half hour, he has been 
compelled to download Twinkies and chips washed down by gallons of Mountain Dew 
which tricks the brain into believing it is nourishing like a ripe fruit would 
be if it was that sweet, hijacking his amigdalla and hippocampus into 
compelling him through dopamine rewards, beyond all reason, to continue a 
lifestyle that is killing him.  And all of this with the perverse kicker that 
he knows better!

Finite intelligence seems to cover the presentation for me.  But that doesn't 
mean I didn't love it just as much.  If the underlying case being made is that 
life is amazing and beyond our conscious comprehension, I am all in!

Happy Thanksgiving, the holiday which demonstrates more than any other that our 
brains are a conflicting mess of impulses, higher and lower, unless of course 
you are putting out tofu turkey, in which case moderation is much easier since 
our primitive brains are not fooled by our conscious mind's absurd assertion 
that it is just as good as a heritage breed turkey who lived a life of 
fabulously nutritious feed until his last, inevitable, bad day!  The same 
inevitable day we will all face despite our wonderful imaginations that our 
beliefs have altered the fact that we are much more like turkeys than the gods 
of our literature and computer animations. Finite not infinite in the end.



[FairfieldLife] Good interview with Enlightened star/creator Laura Dern

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
I must admit that it's grown increasingly painful to watch
Enlightened each week. In a way watching Laura Dern's 
character of Amy is like having to suffer through the 
cluelessness and inappropriateness of Zooey Deschanel's 
character on New Girl each week, but without Zooey's
adorableness. Amy is just grating. Horrifically so. But 
at least Dern seems to know that's the case.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/laura-dern-enlightened_n_1108037.html?ref=religion

She doesn't mention TM, for those who think that's the
only valid reason to ever read an interview with a movie 
or TV star. If you were watching the series, you'd under-
stand why that's a good thing. If her character of Amy 
came to be associated with the word enlightenment, 
spiritual groups would have to stop using it. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
Good reply, Curtis. While I appreciated the animation, I kept being
reminded of once living next to an apiary in which the owner had
replaced one wall of one of the enormous hives with glass, so that we
could see inside and watch what was going on. I saw no more evidence of
infinite intelligence in this guy's depiction of the innards of a
human cell than I did in the innards of that beehive. What I saw was a
number of remarkable products of continuous evolution performing their
function, as they had evolved to do so.

Bottom line is that I think people who long to believe in a God or in
some kind of creator or cosmic Doer in the universe will see that no
matter what they are shown. Those of us with no such longing see only
the things we are shown. Evolution more accurately describes for me the
things I see around me than the will of God does. Evolution also
accounts for why we don't see much of Torok's influence around in our
gene pool these days. :-)

  [http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/508ab8205ebc012ee3bf00163e41dd5b]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  You don't see infinite intelligence at work here Curtis?:
  http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bolinsky_animates_a_cell.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bolinsky_animates_a_cell.html

 Great video, thanks Rick.  I love TED talks.   He makes a better case
for limited rather than infinite intelligence for me.  Despite my
enthusiasm for the brilliance of his use of arts integrated learning,
which is bound to engage the student's brains more completely, I am also
aware that this technique is only as scientifically accurate as the
analogous visual language is used by the programmer.  I was concerned
with his use of the term irreducible at the beginning of his talk
because this is not a principle in cellular biology that I know of.  In
fact it has been specifically refuted by the knowledge we have of the
evolution of cells.  So he may have tipped his hand too quickly and
scientific accuracy should concern us moreso because our mind's ability
to detect the difference between electromicroscopic images and these
animations is absent.  I kept thinking that I was seeing into a cell,
which is wonderfully compelling but wrong.

 As a refutation of an idea of an infinite intelligence at work, I
present this guy's body.  An obvious result of our brain's evolution
where his recently added rational thinking processes telling him to push
away from the desk and jog around the building he works in occasionally
has been trumped by the lower brain's attractions to high fat high sugar
food in excess of his activity.  So instead of dropping down and doing
say 10 pushups every half hour, he has been compelled to download
Twinkies and chips washed down by gallons of Mountain Dew which tricks
the brain into believing it is nourishing like a ripe fruit would be if
it was that sweet, hijacking his amigdalla and hippocampus into
compelling him through dopamine rewards, beyond all reason, to continue
a lifestyle that is killing him.  And all of this with the perverse
kicker that he knows better!

 Finite intelligence seems to cover the presentation for me.  But that
doesn't mean I didn't love it just as much.  If the underlying case
being made is that life is amazing and beyond our conscious
comprehension, I am all in!

 Happy Thanksgiving, the holiday which demonstrates more than any other
that our brains are a conflicting mess of impulses, higher and lower,
unless of course you are putting out tofu turkey, in which case
moderation is much easier since our primitive brains are not fooled by
our conscious mind's absurd assertion that it is just as good as a
heritage breed turkey who lived a life of fabulously nutritious feed
until his last, inevitable, bad day!  The same inevitable day we will
all face despite our wonderful imaginations that our beliefs have
altered the fact that we are much more like turkeys than the gods of our
literature and computer animations. Finite not infinite in the end.




[FairfieldLife] Memnoch the Devil

2011-11-23 Thread Yifu
Click the green blinking light to see Memnoch the Devil. Are you SURE you want 
to see Memnoch?

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/brick.html



[FairfieldLife] 10 accidental discoveries that generated wealth

2011-11-23 Thread Yifu
http://www.businesspundit.com/10-accidental-discoveries-that-generated-great-wealth/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
  
   Judy, they were breaking the law!
  
  BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in Mr. Dictionary.
 
 A debate about civil disobedience vs. the rule of law with
 you would be a waste of time and I don't appreciate your 
 condescending dismissive attitude either.

If you're going to be both stupid *and* arrogant, you
deserve to be not just condescended to and dismissed but
mocked as well.

Anybody who can write the phrase a debate about civil
disobedience vs. the rule of law obviously has no idea
what civil disobedience is. You aren't in a position to
carry on a debate when you don't understand the concepts
involved and are unwilling to learn.




[FairfieldLife] Cain explains he appeal to female employees [1 Attachment]

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Pall



[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian Song

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
 
 Good song to cook to :)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ZavPqB_kkfeature=related

Lovely song. Musically it sounds to me more Arabic than
Russian.

Where did they get those spectacular photographs?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I love Yifu's posts. Keep at it, Yifu, your art posts are 
  like the changing of the scenes in the play here on FFL, 
  while we await the next act. : )
 
 And unlike many of the posters themselves, the art
 can never be accused of overacting. :-)
 
 I much prefer them to posts that some describe as
 debate, but which in reality consist of hurling
 the word stupid at another poster seven times
 in one paragraph. One would think people would
 be ashamed of having such a limited vocabulary,
 but noo. :-)

Sorta missin' the point there, Sonny Jim. Also you
forgot you're not supposed to be reading my posts. ;-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


  Judy, they were breaking the law!
 
authfriend:
 BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in 
 Mr. Dictionary...

So, you're thinking that the protesting students
at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

Civil disobedience is the active, professed 
refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and 
commands of a government, or of an occupying 
international power...

In seeking an active form of civil disobedience, 
one may choose to deliberately break certain 
laws, such as by forming a peaceful blockade 
or occupying a facility illegally, though 
sometimes violence has been known to occur. 

Protesters practice this non-violent form of 
civil disorder with the expectation that they 
will be arrested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience



[FairfieldLife] Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here?

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
From Michael Moore's blog, reposted below for the link-averse:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/where-does-occupy-wa\
ll-street-go-here
 
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/where-does-occupy-w\
all-street-go-here
Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here? 
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/where-does-occupy-w\
all-street-go-here
By Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com/blogger/mmflint

This past weekend I participated in a four-hour meeting of  Occupy Wall
Street activists whose job it is to come up with the vision  and goals
of the movement. It was attended by 40+ people and the  discussion was
both inspiring and invigorating. Here is what we ended up  proposing as
the movement's vision statement to the General Assembly  of Occupy
Wall Street:

We Envision: [1] a truly free, democratic, and just society;  [2] where
we, the people, come together and solve our problems by  consensus; [3]
where people are encouraged to take personal and  collective
responsibility and participate in decision making; [4] where  we learn
to live in harmony and embrace principles of toleration and  respect for
diversity and the differing views of others; [5] where we  secure the
civil and human rights of all from violation by tyrannical  forces and
unjust governments; [6] where political and economic  institutions work
to benefit all, not just the privileged few; [7] where  we provide full
and free education to everyone, not merely to get jobs  but to grow and
flourish as human beings; [8] where we value human needs  over monetary
gain, to ensure decent standards of living without which  effective
democracy is impossible; [9] where we work together to protect  the
global environment to ensure that future generations will have safe  and
clean air, water and food supplies, and will be able to enjoy the 
beauty and bounty of nature that past generations have enjoyed.

The next step will be to develop a specific list of goals and  demands.
As one of the millions of people who are participating in the  Occupy
Wall Street movement, I would like to respectfully offer my  suggestions
of what we can all get behind now to wrestle the control of our country
out of the hands of the 1% and place it squarely with the 99% majority.

Here is what I will propose to the General Assembly of Occupy Wall
Street:

  10
Things We Want
A Proposal for
Occupy Wall Street
Submitted by
Michael Moore

1. Eradicate the Bush tax cuts for the rich and institute new taxes  on
the wealthiest Americans and on corporations, including a tax on all 
trading on Wall Street (where they currently pay 0%).

2. Assess a penalty tax on any corporation that moves American jobs  to
other countries when that company is already making profits in  America.
Our jobs are the most important national treasure and they  cannot be
removed from the country simply because someone wants to make  more
money.

3. Require that all Americans pay the same Social Security tax on all 
of their earnings (normally, the middle class pays about 6% of their 
income to Social Security; someone making $1 million a year pays about 
0.6% (or 90% less than the average person). This law would simply make 
the rich pay what everyone else pays.

4. Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, placing serious regulations on how
business is conducted by Wall Street and the banks.

5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, and bring to justice those who
committed any crimes.

6. Reorder our nation's spending priorities (including the ending of 
all foreign wars and their cost of over $2 billion a week). This will 
re-open libraries, reinstate band and art and civics classes in our 
schools, fix our roads and bridges and infrastructure, wire the entire 
country for 21st century internet, and support scientific research that 
improves our lives.

7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and
universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time.

8. Immediately reduce carbon emissions that are destroying the planet 
and discover ways to live without the oil that will be depleted and 
gone by the end of this century.

9. Require corporations with more than 10,000 employees to  restructure
their board of directors so that 50% of its members are  elected by the
company's workers. We can never have a real democracy as  long as
most people have no say in what happens at the place they spend  most of
their time: their job. (For any U.S. businesspeople freaking out  at
this idea because you think workers can't run a successful company: 
Germany has a law like this and it has helped to make Germany the 
world's leading manufacturing exporter.)

10. We, the people, must pass three constitutional amendments that  will
go a long way toward fixing the core 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous - Message to Occupy the World 11-18-11

2011-11-23 Thread seekliberation
 Sorta like the difference between operating a drone from a
 comfortable bunker to slaughter the enemy (often
 accidentally including civilians) by computer vs. shooting
 them up close and personal on the ground.

I wouldn't associate big business with military.  Operating a drone could be 
percieved as 'murder'.  Even if only intended for a violent extremist who is 
shooting at an American with an AK-47, all it takes is one civilian to be 
nearby, and it opens up a logical argument of negligent homicide.  

The worst I could accuse big business of is enslaving people (if you consider 
being given a job with responisbilities, a paycheck, and freedom to do what you 
want with that paycheck to be slavery).  Perhaps some businesses will work 
people to their wit's end and give them less than what they deserve.  As bad as 
that sounds, I still wouldn't put it in the same category as dropping a 500 lb. 
bomb on foreign insurgents.  


 Hard to say which is more heartless. At least with
 organized crime, there's less likely to be unintended
 collateral damage.



 
  Where the line is drawn, IMO, is the extent to which one will go to achieve 
  their means.  For example, some meat eaters will go buy a steak.  But very 
  few of them will actually hack an animal to pieces, or go hunting.  They 
  don't have the heart for it.  The whole meat industry depends on someone 
  who is willing to kill the animal.  Without that, those who do not have the 
  heart for it are stuck with being vegetarians.  
  
  I think your argument is that the meat eater is just as guilty as the 
  butcher.  I can see your logic.  But to me the absolute cruelty to watch a 
  human suffer right in front of your eyes is way different from someone who 
  is oblivious due to lack of education or awareness.  So to me, there is a 
  big difference between the corporations and organized crime, even if they 
  deal with one another (which i'm sure they do). 
  
  seekliberation
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   Oh, come on now, let's not whitewash American corporations.  Their hands 
   are very dirty, so much so that the line between organized crime and 
   corporate crime is very blurred.  Look at all the fraud that brought us 
   this economic collapse.  The bankers acted like loan sharks.  The 
   corporations just started using the business models of organized crime.
   
   On 11/21/2011 05:55 PM, seekliberation wrote:
corporate crime results in people working harder and getting less.  
Organized crime results in people having their body parts dismembered 
and women being sold as sex slaves on the black market.  It's rampant 
throughout the world.  Here in our safe haven that we refer to as 
America it's a lot less visible.
   
seekliberation
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
What is the difference between corporate crime and organized crime?
   
On 11/20/2011 01:49 PM, seekliberation wrote:
It is great to see people rising against corruption, but I doubt that 
they know the full extent of corruption in this world.  I doubt 
people realize the control that mafi and organized crime have 
throughout the world.  Is anybody fighting the mafia too?
   
seekliberation
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008no_reply@   
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWdyM91hFA





[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus willytex@... 
wrote:

   Judy, they were breaking the law!
  
 authfriend:
  BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in 
  Mr. Dictionary...
 
 So, you're thinking that the protesting students
 at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

I assume you're addressing BillyG here, right?

Beats me how anyone who pays any attention to
what's going on in the world could have failed
to learn what civil disobedience is about. Thanks
for explaining it to him; better late than never,
I suppose.


 
 Civil disobedience is the active, professed 
 refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and 
 commands of a government, or of an occupying 
 international power...
 
 In seeking an active form of civil disobedience, 
 one may choose to deliberately break certain 
 laws, such as by forming a peaceful blockade 
 or occupying a facility illegally, though 
 sometimes violence has been known to occur. 
 
 Protesters practice this non-violent form of 
 civil disorder with the expectation that they 
 will be arrested.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience





[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


  Such naughty students to stand up to their 
  Rajas. I mean, masters. : )
 
Ravi Yogi:
 LOL..thanks for the laughs :-)
 
So, the U.C. Davis student protest against 
university tuition hikes WAS a joke!

So, you are thinking public college education 
tuition should be lower, so more poor students 
can get a worthless college degree? That's NOT 
funny at all. 

What's also NOT funny is the poor deluded students 
at U.C. Davis thinking that they are going to get 
a good-paying job with their liberal arts degree. 

What a waste of good pepper spray!

In a sense, the higher education bubble is very 
much like the dotcom and mortgage bubbles before 
it. Everyone wants a college degree because it's 
widely seen as 'necessary step' in 'getting ahead' 
and therefore, tuitions are skyrocketing, taking 
advantage of the situation... 

'The Road to Nowhere: The Higher Education Bubble 
and Liberal Arts Education'
http://tinyurl.com/cx84s93





[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous - Message to Occupy the World 11-18-11

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... 
wrote:

  Sorta like the difference between operating a drone from a
  comfortable bunker to slaughter the enemy (often
  accidentally including civilians) by computer vs. shooting
  them up close and personal on the ground.
 
 I wouldn't associate big business with military.

Um, it's just an analogy, not an association per se.

 Operating a drone could be percieved as 'murder'.  Even if
 only intended for a violent extremist who is shooting at an
 American with an AK-47, all it takes is one civilian to be
 nearby, and it opens up a logical argument of negligent
 homicide.  
 
 The worst I could accuse big business of is enslaving people
 (if you consider being given a job with responisbilities, a 
 paycheck, and freedom to do what you want with that paycheck
 to be slavery).  Perhaps some businesses will work people to
 their wit's end and give them less than what they deserve.
 As bad as that sounds, I still wouldn't put it in the same
 category as dropping a 500 lb. bomb on foreign insurgents.

Again, it's just an analogy. Point being, the way big
business operates these days--especially big finance,
Wall Street--harms huge numbers of people at a distance,
as it were.

It's much more than just exploitation of its own workers;
it damages the whole society (or 99 percent of it) by
sucking money out of the economy and putting it in the
hands of the 1 percent. And the political influence of
that 1 percent--because of its enormous wealth--makes it
impossible to institute measures to remedy the situation.





 
 
  Hard to say which is more heartless. At least with
  organized crime, there's less likely to be unintended
  collateral damage.
 
 
 
  
   Where the line is drawn, IMO, is the extent to which one will go to 
   achieve their means.  For example, some meat eaters will go buy a steak.  
   But very few of them will actually hack an animal to pieces, or go 
   hunting.  They don't have the heart for it.  The whole meat industry 
   depends on someone who is willing to kill the animal.  Without that, 
   those who do not have the heart for it are stuck with being vegetarians.  
   
   I think your argument is that the meat eater is just as guilty as the 
   butcher.  I can see your logic.  But to me the absolute cruelty to watch 
   a human suffer right in front of your eyes is way different from someone 
   who is oblivious due to lack of education or awareness.  So to me, there 
   is a big difference between the corporations and organized crime, even if 
   they deal with one another (which i'm sure they do). 
   
   seekliberation
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
Oh, come on now, let's not whitewash American corporations.  Their 
hands 
are very dirty, so much so that the line between organized crime and 
corporate crime is very blurred.  Look at all the fraud that brought us 
this economic collapse.  The bankers acted like loan sharks.  The 
corporations just started using the business models of organized crime.

On 11/21/2011 05:55 PM, seekliberation wrote:
 corporate crime results in people working harder and getting less.  
 Organized crime results in people having their body parts dismembered 
 and women being sold as sex slaves on the black market.  It's rampant 
 throughout the world.  Here in our safe haven that we refer to as 
 America it's a lot less visible.

 seekliberation

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
 What is the difference between corporate crime and organized crime?

 On 11/20/2011 01:49 PM, seekliberation wrote:
 It is great to see people rising against corruption, but I doubt 
 that they know the full extent of corruption in this world.  I 
 doubt people realize the control that mafi and organized crime have 
 throughout the world.  Is anybody fighting the mafia too?

 seekliberation

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008no_reply@   
 wrote:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWdyM91hFA
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus willytex@... 
wrote:

 
 
   Judy, they were breaking the law!
  
 authfriend:
  BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in 
  Mr. Dictionary...
 
 So, you're thinking that the protesting students
 at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' into submission.
 
 Civil disobedience is the active, professed 
 refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and 
 commands of a government, or of an occupying 
 international power...
 
 In seeking an active form of civil disobedience, 
 one may choose to deliberately break certain 
 laws, such as by forming a peaceful blockade 
 or occupying a facility illegally, though 
 sometimes violence has been known to occur. 
 
 Protesters practice this non-violent form of 
 civil disorder with the expectation that they 
 will be arrested.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience





[FairfieldLife] Re: wondrous Catholicism

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


shukra69:
 wondrous Catholicism
 
Don't you just hate those Spanish Catholics!



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread Susan


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  You don't see infinite intelligence at work here Curtis?:
  http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bolinsky_animates_a_cell.html
 
 
 Great video, thanks Rick.  I love TED talks.   He makes a better case for 
 limited rather than infinite intelligence for me.  Despite my enthusiasm for 
 the brilliance of his use of arts integrated learning, which is bound to 
 engage the student's brains more completely, I am also aware that this 
 technique is only as scientifically accurate as the analogous visual language 
 is used by the programmer.  I was concerned with his use of the term 
 irreducible at the beginning of his talk because this is not a principle in 
 cellular biology that I know of.  In fact it has been specifically refuted by 
 the knowledge we have of the evolution of cells.  So he may have tipped his 
 hand too quickly and scientific accuracy should concern us moreso because our 
 mind's ability to detect the difference between electromicroscopic images and 
 these animations is absent.  I kept thinking that I was seeing into a cell, 
 which is wonderfully compelling but wrong.
 
 As a refutation of an idea of an infinite intelligence at work, I present 
 this guy's body.  An obvious result of our brain's evolution where his 
 recently added rational thinking processes telling him to push away from the 
 desk and jog around the building he works in occasionally has been trumped by 
 the lower brain's attractions to high fat high sugar food in excess of his 
 activity.  So instead of dropping down and doing say 10 pushups every half 
 hour, he has been compelled to download Twinkies and chips washed down by 
 gallons of Mountain Dew which tricks the brain into believing it is 
 nourishing like a ripe fruit would be if it was that sweet, hijacking his 
 amigdalla and hippocampus into compelling him through dopamine rewards, 
 beyond all reason, to continue a lifestyle that is killing him.  And all of 
 this with the perverse kicker that he knows better!
 
 Finite intelligence seems to cover the presentation for me.  But that doesn't 
 mean I didn't love it just as much.  If the underlying case being made is 
 that life is amazing and beyond our conscious comprehension, I am all in!
 
 Happy Thanksgiving, the holiday which demonstrates more than any other that 
 our brains are a conflicting mess of impulses, higher and lower, unless of 
 course you are putting out tofu turkey, in which case moderation is much 
 easier since our primitive brains are not fooled by our conscious mind's 
 absurd assertion that it is just as good as a heritage breed turkey who lived 
 a life of fabulously nutritious feed until his last, inevitable, bad day!  
 The same inevitable day we will all face despite our wonderful imaginations 
 that our beliefs have altered the fact that we are much more like turkeys 
 than the gods of our literature and computer animations. Finite not infinite 
 in the end.

From what I read and think about, it all does seem to be heading in that 
direction (finite) altho I still cling with hope and past well- assimilated 
beliefs that I am more than a turkey, or a stone for that matter.  the whole 
shebang is so unfathomable and reallly fires off those brain cells and 
stetches their capacity (at least that is how it feels).  I still like the 
idea that human nervous systems are part of the universe's automatic 
evolutionary process of figuring itself out, of developing a asystem that can 
codify the laws of everything.



[FairfieldLife] interview with Advaitin Karl Renz

2011-11-23 Thread Yifu
http://www.stillnessspeaks.com/ssblog/karl-renz-inerview-with-chris-hebard/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus willytex@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
Judy, they were breaking the law!
   
  authfriend:
   BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in
   Mr. Dictionary...
  
  So, you're thinking that the protesting students
  at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

 I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' into submission.


Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police power Pepper Spray.


[FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: Occupy the Domes!!)

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus

  Nabby hasn't tried to enter a TMO butt-bouncing
  facility for years. That's why he still believes
  they'd let him in. Either that or he knows the
  nazis-in-charge. :-)
 
nablusoss1008:
 Says who?
 Someone who hasn't been in the Movement for 40
 years, knows nothing about my status and never
 entered a Dome in is life. But Turq is known for
having helped empower the Zen Master Rama to bounce
on his butt (Rama's butt, not Turq's) in front of a
large group inside a rented lecture hall in New
York State.

Apparently the Turqster has never even set foot
in Fairfield, IA.

 Did I mention that he is also known for being a
 compulsive liar? I quess I did.

But, let's not forget that Turq WAS the TMO for
years and if he could have, he would have been one
of the 'nazis-in-charge of the whole TM movement.

So, I guess we can conclude that the Turq was once
a 'butt-bouncer' apprentice, who paid MMY over
$5,000 in order to learn butt-bouncing.

There's no telling how much the Turq paid Rama, but
from what I've read, it was well over $10,000 over
a period of many years just to just watch Rama
bounce on his butt! Go figure.

So, I guess we can conclude that the Turq is a
failed butt-bouncer. Go figure.
  http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/rama-appendix-1.html


[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here?

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


turquoiseb:
 This past weekend I participated in a four-hour 
 meeting of  Occupy Wall Street activists...

The last time I checked, Michael Moore was one of 
the 1%, being a multi millionaire several times
over, but does Moore have to be an in-your-face
hypocrite as well?

This champion of corrupt Cuban health care and 
unions, who by the way used non-union labor in his 
last documentary, has demonstrated true turkey 
qualities in 2011... 

'Michael Moore Turkey of Year'
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42605



[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here?

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus

TurquoiseB:
 From Michael Moore's blog, reposted below
 for the link-averse...

Michael Moore photo and story, for the apparently
link-averse Turqster:



 
http://www.detnews.com/article/2015/OPINION01/50320/1008/opinio\
n01/Hypocrisy-of-Michael-Moore%E2%80%99s-opulent-home
This champion of corrupt Cuban health care
and unions, who by the way used non-union labor
in his last documentary, has demonstrated true
turkey qualities in 2011...

'Michael Moore Turkey of Year'
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42605
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42605

Tax records show the liberal documentary filmmaker
owns an eye-popping lakefront property in Michigan
in one of the country's most exclusive neighborhoods
-- in addition to his luxury Park Avenue pad in
Manhattan...

'Michael Moore's Michigan Mansion Makes Him a '1
Percenter,' Report Says'
http://tinyurl.com/7lqdw8l http://tinyurl.com/7lqdw8l



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:
snip
 As a refutation of an idea of an infinite intelligence at
 work, I present this guy's body.  An obvious result of our
 brain's evolution where his recently added rational
 thinking processes telling him to push away from the desk
 and jog around the building he works in occasionally has
 been trumped by the lower brain's attractions to high fat
 high sugar food in excess of his activity.  So instead of
 dropping down and doing say 10 pushups every half hour, he
 has been compelled to download Twinkies and chips washed
 down by gallons of Mountain Dew which tricks the brain
 into believing it is nourishing like a ripe fruit would be
 if it was that sweet, hijacking his amigdalla and
 hippocampus into compelling him through dopamine rewards,
 beyond all reason, to continue a lifestyle that is killing
 him.  And all of this with the perverse kicker that he
 knows better!

I think this is a red herring. It's a refutation of infinite 
intelligence only if you define intelligence as the ability
to sustain life as long as possible. If intelligence were
in fact infinite, we wouldn't be in a position to say what
specific things are intelligent and which aren't, because
*our* intelligence is limited.

 Finite intelligence seems to cover the presentation for me.

The presentation was made by a being of finite intelligence.
How could it be otherwise? How does that rule out that
Intelligence (as distinct from individual intelligence)
is infinite?

 But that doesn't mean I didn't love it just as much.  If
 the underlying case being made is that life is amazing and
 beyond our conscious comprehension, I am all in!

If it's beyond our conscious comprehension, that means
it could be a function of finite *or* infinite intelligence,
and we ourselves are incapable of knowing which it is.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...
   
   So, you're thinking that the protesting students
   at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?
  
  I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' 
  into submission.
 
Tom Pall:
 Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police 
 power Pepper Spray.

Pepper Spray and Mace can be used for self-defense.

http://www.safetygirl.com/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... 
wrote:
 
 Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

So, you're thinking that the protesting students
at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?
   
   I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' 
   into submission.
  
 Tom Pall:
  Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police 
  power Pepper Spray.
 
 Pepper Spray and Mace can be used for self-defense.
 
 http://www.safetygirl.com/

FWIW, the pepper spray used by police is *much* stronger
than the pepper spray sold to civilians for self-defense.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@...
 wrote:
 
  Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...
 
 So, you're thinking that the protesting students
 at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled'
into submission.
   
  Tom Pall:
   Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police
   power Pepper Spray.
  
  Pepper Spray and Mace can be used for self-defense.
 
  http://www.safetygirl.com/

 FWIW, the pepper spray used by police is *much* stronger
 than the pepper spray sold to civilians for self-defense.




And the stuff used for bears is even stronger.   But it's cumbersome
carrying around something as big and as hefty as a fire extinguisher.
That's why God gave us concealed weapons permits.


[FairfieldLife] Re: WG: NEW Beautifull Slideshow Guest Campus Bijauri in the Brahamastan of India.

2011-11-23 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@... wrote:

  
 
 
 A great slide show prepared by Chris and Ann Crowell
 on Bijauri campus  
 Enjoy and share it!
 
 https://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dkSXR3Q3RxRTI5TE5Vag
 
 Jai Guru Dev



Sounds good, but I can't read the link. Can you ?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 
  FWIW, the pepper spray used by police is *much* stronger
  than the pepper spray sold to civilians for self-defense.
 
 And the stuff used for bears is even stronger. But it's 
 cumbersome carrying around something as big and as hefty 
 as a fire extinguisher. That's why God gave us concealed 
 weapons permits.

I know you're just making a push the anti gun nuts'
buttons joke, but you haven't ever shot a bear with 
a handgun, have you?

I knew two people in Alaska who have. One survived to
tell of the incident, but only because his friend's
rifle took the bear down after his Ruger 44 Magnum 
failed to do so. The other guy? The bear ate him, 
and probably picked his teeth with the guy's 
handgun. :-)

If the Davis protests had been attended by Alaskan 
bears, I might approve the use of pepper spray if one 
of them had become unruly. On unruly people...not so 
much.  :-)

Using it on ruly people, who are just sitting there
and don't plan to offer any resistance to being 
arrested? Just plain dumb. Up there with the British
troops in this famous scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XarpddX1BI





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/22/2011 03:27 PM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@...  wrote:
 LOL..thanks for the laughs.
 It's funny, but pepper spray is actually no joke. Anybody
 who thinks it's just a mild inconvenience resulting in a
 bit of temporary discomfort should read this analysis:

 http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/21/about-pepper-spray/

 http://tinyurl.com/855k9tk

 The spray can cause fatal respiratory failure in those
 with asthma or other respiratory conditions; it can
 injure the cornea with repeated exposure; and other
 chemical ingredients in the spray can also be harmful.

I keep pepper spray in my car in case of aggressive cops, Republicans, 
car hijackers and dogs. The small pepper sprayer is only around $4-5.  I 
used to spread cayenne pepper on the strip of lawn in front of the 
family home to keep dogs from leaving their surprises there.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread Bob Price


From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com


Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a post 
is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some picture 
and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate here except 
by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you mention isn't 
worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some 
British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I did just fine in 
4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or stay 
developmentally arrested there.


***It must have been grade five when they explained the difference between 
prose and poetry. We understand it might have been a challenge getting through 
the higher grades with that childhood you've so graciously shared with us; in 
such wonderful detail. We completely agree that Alan Bennett, allowing a 
homeless lady to live on his property for 15 years, in no way reaches the 
sentimental engagement of your For a Few Pennies More clip. Now that we know 
about that naughty lady, that threw you into the great outdoors, and your 
decades of therapy, to make sense of it all; I'm wondering, still with me 
Tommy, was it the lady or the therapist, autodidact that you so obviously 
are, that introduced you to your obvious passion for history; we're 
particularly interested in the source material of your insights on Jewish 
landlords (one would assume from the ghetto) exploiting tenants in Poland; back 
in the day. We're sure you'll agree, there seems to be a
 connection between your exploited ancestors, your childhood, The Lady in The 
Van, and the *sentimental journeys* you love to take us on. On behalf of Yifu 
and myself, we're absolutely chuffed with the fact you seem to click through 
on so many of our a picture is worth a thousand words links. As we're sure 
you know, its not always easy to hit the emotional capability of an audience. 
Personally, I use KB as my emotional *base* line and build from there; I figure 
if I can get the eight year old's, I likely have the sentimentality needed to 
capture the eyeballs of your target audience. So again, on behalf of Yifu and 
myself, please keep posting your links---we love pictures; don't worry about 
pithy, as long they're sentimental. I'm never sure if the context is supposed 
to go above or below the link, maybe you could check with your bud Barry or one 
of the other read everything to figure out what to ignore buds and budettes.  
  


Knowing how culturally developed you are; I picked this clip for the French 
dubbing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2Jnxj2rwcfeature=related


I've never read any of Alan Bennett's poetry, possibly you could add a few 
titles to his bio.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Bennett#Stage


I think this one goes without saying.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN9YLAcT6io


I'm assuming any interpretation of this one works for you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI



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[FairfieldLife] Stop the Protect IP bill, call Congress

2011-11-23 Thread Bhairitu
There are two VERY BAD bills that threaten our free and open Internet.  
They are sponsored by the grinches who run Hollywood and the record 
industry.  See, these paranoid freaks believe that their profits aren't 
up to snuff because everyone is stealing from them.  These are imaginary 
losses of course because they cannot be supported.  They might do better 
to make products people want to buy than trying to destroy the 
Internet.  Protect IP and SOPA are two villainous bills.  Senator Ron 
Wyden on threat to the Internet:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/23/wyden-protect-ip-act-may-pass-if-americans-dont-call-congress/


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Breaking the law?  I realize this thread has progressed past this statement, 
but really, now.  With an exclamation point?  

Did not congress change the laws to facilitate the lending practices that 
contributed to the mortgage crisis?  (Judy sent the Wiki link on the subprime 
mortgage crisis or look it up).   

Here's an interesting NY Times article on banks and fraud laws.  

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/business/in-sec-fraud-cases-banks-make-and-break-promises.html?pagewanted=all




 From: wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:32 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus willytex@... 
wrote:

 
 
   Judy, they were breaking the law!
  
 authfriend:
  BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in 
  Mr. Dictionary...
 
 So, you're thinking that the protesting students
 at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' into submission.

 Civil disobedience is the active, professed 
 refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and 
 commands of a government, or of an occupying 
 international power...
 
 In seeking an active form of civil disobedience, 
 one may choose to deliberately break certain 
 laws, such as by forming a peaceful blockade 
 or occupying a facility illegally, though 
 sometimes violence has been known to occur. 
 
 Protesters practice this non-violent form of 
 civil disorder with the expectation that they 
 will be arrested.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience



 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

  Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
 British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   
 I did just fine in 4th grade, thank you, and didn't
 need to repeat it.  Or stay developmentally arrested
 there.

Ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYMNDu-qxo

...a shadow man. He's a man to correct Man. But of course
he's not a man - he's a crow, and he never does quite become
a man...

...The crow is the indestructible...bird, who suffering
everything, suffers nothing





Re: [FairfieldLife] Good interview with Enlightened star/creator Laura Dern

2011-11-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/23/2011 05:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 I must admit that it's grown increasingly painful to watch
 Enlightened each week. In a way watching Laura Dern's
 character of Amy is like having to suffer through the
 cluelessness and inappropriateness of Zooey Deschanel's
 character on New Girl each week, but without Zooey's
 adorableness. Amy is just grating. Horrifically so. But
 at least Dern seems to know that's the case.

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/laura-dern-enlightened_n_1108037.html?ref=religion

 She doesn't mention TM, for those who think that's the
 only valid reason to ever read an interview with a movie
 or TV star. If you were watching the series, you'd under-
 stand why that's a good thing. If her character of Amy
 came to be associated with the word enlightenment,
 spiritual groups would have to stop using it. :-)

Figured it would become less and less your cuppa tea.  I find it 
mildly amusing though verging into the for chicks only audience.  I 
was wondering why if all the episodes were in the can a year ago why it 
took so long to air.  Probably HBO execs had qualms about it too which 
would mean they actually watched some episodes for a change rather than 
just look at the over nights.  Of course in the over nights it isn't 
fairing very well:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/ratings-roundup-whats-it-take-for-hbo-to-cancel-a,63803/

I'm sorting out my viewing habits because having access to so much of 
great quality films vs contrived TV shows the latter is beginning to 
wear on me.  My Thanksgiving movie may be Amigo which is John Sayles 
latest and available on Vudu.  Depends on how Thanksgiving goes as it is 
40 miles away at my nephew's house.

I also watched Super 8 on Bluray last night.  It's the rental 
version with no extras but I will probably sit on returning it until 
Saturday so the next new release in my queue has a chance of arriving on 
Tuesday rather than months from now.  I thought Super 8 was 
entertaining and a good homage to 80's films.  And with NF and these 
timing issues I've considering dropping the disc rental.  I'm paying 
for Bluray but had a run of older films that were only on DVD.  They 
should consider a credit if most of the queue winds up being DVD than 
Bluray.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:39 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on
TED.com

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 You don't see infinite intelligence at work here Curtis?:
 http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bolinsky_animates_a_cell.html


Great video, thanks Rick. I love TED talks. He makes a better case for
limited rather than infinite intelligence for me. Despite my enthusiasm for
the brilliance of his use of arts integrated learning, which is bound to
engage the student's brains more completely, I am also aware that this
technique is only as scientifically accurate as the analogous visual
language is used by the programmer. I was concerned with his use of the term
irreducible at the beginning of his talk because this is not a principle
in cellular biology that I know of. In fact it has been specifically refuted
by the knowledge we have of the evolution of cells. So he may have tipped
his hand too quickly and scientific accuracy should concern us moreso
because our mind's ability to detect the difference between
electromicroscopic images and these animations is absent. I kept thinking
that I was seeing into a cell, which is wonderfully compelling but wrong.

As a refutation of an idea of an infinite intelligence at work, I present
this guy's body. An obvious result of our brain's evolution where his
recently added rational thinking processes telling him to push away from the
desk and jog around the building he works in occasionally has been trumped
by the lower brain's attractions to high fat high sugar food in excess of
his activity. So instead of dropping down and doing say 10 pushups every
half hour, he has been compelled to download Twinkies and chips washed down
by gallons of Mountain Dew which tricks the brain into believing it is
nourishing like a ripe fruit would be if it was that sweet, hijacking his
amigdalla and hippocampus into compelling him through dopamine rewards,
beyond all reason, to continue a lifestyle that is killing him. And all of
this with the perverse kicker that he knows better!

Finite intelligence seems to cover the presentation for me. But that doesn't
mean I didn't love it just as much. If the underlying case being made is
that life is amazing and beyond our conscious comprehension, I am all in!

Happy Thanksgiving, the holiday which demonstrates more than any other that
our brains are a conflicting mess of impulses, higher and lower, unless of
course you are putting out tofu turkey, in which case moderation is much
easier since our primitive brains are not fooled by our conscious mind's
absurd assertion that it is just as good as a heritage breed turkey who
lived a life of fabulously nutritious feed until his last, inevitable, bad
day! The same inevitable day we will all face despite our wonderful
imaginations that our beliefs have altered the fact that we are much more
like turkeys than the gods of our literature and computer animations. Finite
not infinite in the end.

I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but to me, the
universe does not look like it came about and is maintained through random
collisions of little billiard balls. It seems to me that every level of
creation, from the sub-atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is
governed by inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of baggage.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but 
 to me, the universe does not look like it came about and is 
 maintained through random collisions of little billiard balls. 
 It seems to me that every level of creation, from the sub-
 atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is governed by 
 inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
 for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of 
 baggage.

Just to play deva's advocate here, wouldn't it be an
even *more* interesting universe if everything in it
*had* evolved through nothing more (nor less) than 
random collisions of little billiard balls?  :-)






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 11/22/2011 03:27 PM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@...  wrote:
  LOL..thanks for the laughs.
  It's funny, but pepper spray is actually no joke. Anybody
  who thinks it's just a mild inconvenience resulting in a
  bit of temporary discomfort should read this analysis:
 
 
 http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/21/about-pepper-spray/
 
  http://tinyurl.com/855k9tk
 
  The spray can cause fatal respiratory failure in those
  with asthma or other respiratory conditions; it can
  injure the cornea with repeated exposure; and other
  chemical ingredients in the spray can also be harmful.

 I keep pepper spray in my car in case of aggressive cops, Republicans,
 car hijackers and dogs. The small pepper sprayer is only around $4-5.  I
 used to spread cayenne pepper on the strip of lawn in front of the
 family home to keep dogs from leaving their surprises there.



May you and your car have a nice, hot Summer day.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous - Message to Occupy the World 11-18-11

2011-11-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/23/2011 07:13 AM, seekliberation wrote:
 Sorta like the difference between operating a drone from a
 comfortable bunker to slaughter the enemy (often
 accidentally including civilians) by computer vs. shooting
 them up close and personal on the ground.
 I wouldn't associate big business with military.  Operating a drone could be 
 percieved as 'murder'.  Even if only intended for a violent extremist who is 
 shooting at an American with an AK-47, all it takes is one civilian to be 
 nearby, and it opens up a logical argument of negligent homicide.

Agreed but a health insurance company denying coverage to someone or 
refusing to pay for a critical procedure just to keep up profits should 
be considered as homicide too.

And I'm sure you'll find corporate heads that look at running their 
business as like they are in a war.  Ever hear of corporate wars?  
Just look at Microsoft-Apple-Google for example.  Sometimes we have to 
dodge to stay out of the crossfire.



 The worst I could accuse big business of is enslaving people (if you consider 
 being given a job with responisbilities, a paycheck, and freedom to do what 
 you want with that paycheck to be slavery).  Perhaps some businesses will 
 work people to their wit's end and give them less than what they deserve.  As 
 bad as that sounds, I still wouldn't put it in the same category as dropping 
 a 500 lb. bomb on foreign insurgents.



See, you're looking at it from the employee end and I'm looking at it 
from the management end.  Sure exploiting employees is terrible and the 
big corporations are trying to get rid of unions so they can exploit 
more. And then we have Pig Newtie suggesting we allow child labor 
again.  And people are so afraid that if they don't put in 80 hours a 
week they'll lose their jobs.  I say walk away from any company that 
wants you to work more than 50 hours a week unless just for a short 
period to get a product out.  We did the latter shipping software but 
also remunerated people for such efforts.  And those often only lasted a 
week or two.  The tech industry kept away unions by simply treating 
their employees right maybe to an access.  You had cafeterias, snack 
bars, game rooms, etc.  But HP figured back in the 90s that after 50 
hours a week productivity actually went down.  Of course it is kinda 
hard to boot out a programmer who figures his badge of honor is 
practically living at the office doing mock heroic efforts.

As for management you have to ride herd on them to make sure they don't 
make promises that can't be fulfilled to the stock analysts.  The 
management level is where a lot of crap goes down.  Suggested movie: 
The Company Men for example though there have been lots of movies 
about management level malfeasance made over the years not to mention books.

Speaking of which I see Greg Palast has a new book with accompanying 
video out exposing corporate crime:
http://www.gregpalast.com/vulturespicnic/?page=TRAILERS


 Hard to say which is more heartless. At least with
 organized crime, there's less likely to be unintended
 collateral damage.



 Where the line is drawn, IMO, is the extent to which one will go to achieve 
 their means.  For example, some meat eaters will go buy a steak.  But very 
 few of them will actually hack an animal to pieces, or go hunting.  They 
 don't have the heart for it.  The whole meat industry depends on someone 
 who is willing to kill the animal.  Without that, those who do not have the 
 heart for it are stuck with being vegetarians.

 I think your argument is that the meat eater is just as guilty as the 
 butcher.  I can see your logic.  But to me the absolute cruelty to watch a 
 human suffer right in front of your eyes is way different from someone who 
 is oblivious due to lack of education or awareness.  So to me, there is a 
 big difference between the corporations and organized crime, even if they 
 deal with one another (which i'm sure they do).

 seekliberation

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
 Oh, come on now, let's not whitewash American corporations.  Their hands
 are very dirty, so much so that the line between organized crime and
 corporate crime is very blurred.  Look at all the fraud that brought us
 this economic collapse.  The bankers acted like loan sharks.  The
 corporations just started using the business models of organized crime.

 On 11/21/2011 05:55 PM, seekliberation wrote:
 corporate crime results in people working harder and getting less.  
 Organized crime results in people having their body parts dismembered and 
 women being sold as sex slaves on the black market.  It's rampant 
 throughout the world.  Here in our safe haven that we refer to as America 
 it's a lot less visible.

 seekliberation

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@   wrote:
 What is the difference between corporate crime and organized crime?

 On 11/20/2011 01:49 PM, seekliberation wrote:
 It is great to see 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-23 Thread Yifu
thx for standing up for the truth!...

A David Elliott review on The Descendants with George Clooney, gave it 2 
stars out of (5?). (not too favorable but I may see it anyway)
...
The trip stays on Hawaiian time, with so little dramatic momentum that it's 
almost another coma.  This plodding disappointment from Alexander Payne, 
creator of the brilliant 'Sideways', is like a stressed holiday, a lachrymost 
luau. There is plenty of good scenery, Hawaiian singing, maybe the first ever 
scene of crying underwater, a wee role for surfing-god Laird Hamilton, and some 
fine performances:  Robert Forster as a grumpy gramps, Nick Krause as an 
amusing dork-dude, Matthew Lillard as a guilty guy, Judy Greer as his guiltless 
wife, and (the best), Shailene Woodley as Matt's older daughter.
...
But I'll definitely pass on Adam Sandler's Jack and Jill


 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 
 
 From: Tom Pall thomas.pall@...
 
 
 Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a 
 post is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some 
 picture and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate 
 here except by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you 
 mention isn't worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to 
 death by some British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I 
 did just fine in 4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or 
 stay developmentally arrested there.
 
 
 ***It must have been grade five when they explained the difference between 
 prose and poetry. We understand it might have been a challenge getting 
 through the higher grades with that childhood you've so graciously shared 
 with us; in such wonderful detail. We completely agree that Alan Bennett, 
 allowing a homeless lady to live on his property for 15 years, in no way 
 reaches the sentimental engagement of your For a Few Pennies More clip. Now 
 that we know about that naughty lady, that threw you into the great outdoors, 
 and your decades of therapy, to make sense of it all; I'm wondering, still 
 with me Tommy, was it the lady or the therapist, autodidact that you so 
 obviously are, that introduced you to your obvious passion for history; we're 
 particularly interested in the source material of your insights on Jewish 
 landlords (one would assume from the ghetto) exploiting tenants in Poland; 
 back in the day. We're sure you'll agree, there seems to be a
  connection between your exploited ancestors, your childhood, The Lady in 
 The Van, and the *sentimental journeys* you love to take us on. On behalf of 
 Yifu and myself, we're absolutely chuffed with the fact you seem to click 
 through on so many of our a picture is worth a thousand words links. As 
 we're sure you know, its not always easy to hit the emotional capability of 
 an audience. Personally, I use KB as my emotional *base* line and build from 
 there; I figure if I can get the eight year old's, I likely have the 
 sentimentality needed to capture the eyeballs of your target audience. So 
 again, on behalf of Yifu and myself, please keep posting your links---we love 
 pictures; don't worry about pithy, as long they're sentimental. I'm never 
 sure if the context is supposed to go above or below the link, maybe you 
 could check with your bud Barry or one of the other read everything to 
 figure out what to ignore buds and budettes.    
 
 
 Knowing how culturally developed you are; I picked this clip for the French 
 dubbing.
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2Jnxj2rwcfeature=related
 
 
 I've never read any of Alan Bennett's poetry, possibly you could add a few 
 titles to his bio.
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Bennett#Stage
 
 
 I think this one goes without saying.
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN9YLAcT6io
 
 
 I'm assuming any interpretation of this one works for you.
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI
 
 
 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of turquoiseb
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:20 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on
TED.com

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but 
 to me, the universe does not look like it came about and is 
 maintained through random collisions of little billiard balls. 
 It seems to me that every level of creation, from the sub-
 atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is governed by 
 inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
 for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of 
 baggage.

Just to play deva's advocate here, wouldn't it be an
even *more* interesting universe if everything in it
*had* evolved through nothing more (nor less) than 
random collisions of little billiard balls? :-)

I suppose, but impossibly improbable. 



[FairfieldLife] Valentina Lisitsa - piano

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn


She is extraordinary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBXA1tBiLwNR=1



[FairfieldLife] Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  

Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related



[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous - Message to Occupy the World 11-18-11

2011-11-23 Thread seekliberation
Corporate warsyes, I remember writing a paper about how America tries to 
introduce principles of the Kshatriya class into the Vaisya and Shudra classes. 
 All it does is stress everyone out in the process of trying to do and achieve 
things beyond their own capacity.  Unfortunately, competition isn't just in the 
business world.  My wife just started teaching, and from what I gather, all the 
way down to kindergarten children in America our society is dominated by a 
competitive mindset.  Everyone is always trying to get 'one up' on each other.  
Sometimes it's grossly obvious, and in other ways it's subtle.  But the stories 
I heard from her give every indication to me that this competitive mindset is a 
part of our culture, not just our approach to business.  That being the case, 
my POV is that we need a cultural shift more so than a policy change.  If we 
induce a policy change or enact laws, the competitive side in our culture will 
find a way to work around those policies anyway.  

This reminds me of a CD I listened to from Alan Watts where he talks about how 
making tax laws is the only guarantee that taxing will be unfair.  The moment 
you make a law, the clever people come out of the woodwork to find ways to work 
around that law.  Then you make a new law that prevents clever people from 
doing that, and they simply refine their approach and design a way around the 
new law you just created.  

From everything I read in Vedic literature or any other spiritual scripture, 
less evolved people seem to be present and something we all have to deal with. 
 Even Lord Krishna had to deal with being kidnapped, attempted murder, lots of 
hard work, fighting wars, and he even died from an accident by a hunter (so 
even God is vulnerable to collateral damage).  The situation with Jesus was 
quite similar.  

So my interpretation on this is that we should strive to make the world a 
better place, but there's no reason to be that upset about the way things are 
when even God himself comes here and doesn't necessarily get to live without 
the frustration of unethical people.  They're always going to be there for us 
to deal with.  (unless of course we get 7000 Siddhas flying together, in which 
case all 6 billion people on Earth will instantly get along harmoniously for 
eternity with no more ill intentions ever again).  


seekliberation
 


 And I'm sure you'll find corporate heads that look at running their 
 business as like they are in a war.  Ever hear of corporate wars?  
 Just look at Microsoft-Apple-Google for example.  Sometimes we have to 
 dodge to stay out of the crossfire.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7
Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
 
 Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related





[FairfieldLife] Obama Pardons Two Turkeys

2011-11-23 Thread John
The turkeys were trained to gobble without really saying anything.  The 
training apparently helped.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-pardons-pair-gobblers-thanksgiving-155518644.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of turquoiseb
 Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:20 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on
 TED.com
 
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but 
  to me, the universe does not look like it came about and is 
  maintained through random collisions of little billiard balls. 
  It seems to me that every level of creation, from the sub-
  atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is governed by 
  inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
  for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of 
  baggage.
 
 Just to play deva's advocate here, wouldn't it be an
 even *more* interesting universe if everything in it
 *had* evolved through nothing more (nor less) than 
 random collisions of little billiard balls? :-)
 
 I suppose, but impossibly improbable.

I agree. Also by presupposing that the universe evolved and continues to in a 
random fashion, is placing human intelligence at the peak of intelligence in 
the universe, because we understand it. The only type of intelligence worth 
even considering is that which we can comprehend, within the tidy sphere of our 
human intellect. 

No humility, or wonder, or awe - the rest is just a bunch of random little 
billiard balls out there; click, click, click, click. Oh, unless you're talking 
about ME, the magnificent ME, ME, who cannot even see beyond my floodlights, 
the edge of the stage. ME, the pinnacle of narcissistic wonder, ME, alone 
making sense and comfort among the scary, disordered rabble of a random little 
billiard ball universe. Ah, ME!





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
snip
   I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but 
   to me, the universe does not look like it came about and is 
   maintained through random collisions of little billiard balls. 
   It seems to me that every level of creation, from the sub-
   atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is governed by 
   inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
   for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of 
   baggage.
  
[Barry wrote:]
  Just to play deva's advocate here, wouldn't it be an
  even *more* interesting universe if everything in it
  *had* evolved through nothing more (nor less) than 
  random collisions of little billiard balls? :-)
  
[Rick wrote:]
  I suppose, but impossibly improbable.
 
 I agree. Also by presupposing that the universe evolved and 
 continues to in a random fashion, is placing human
 intelligence at the peak of intelligence in the universe,
 because we understand it. The only type of intelligence
 worth even considering is that which we can comprehend,
 within the tidy sphere of our human intellect.

Or to put it another way, when random collisions of little
billiard balls produce the extraordinary complexity of
(just for one thing) cells as shown in the TED animation
(except that, as he says, the animation doesn't cover even
a percentage of the real complexity), that pretty much
renders the concept random meaningless; random vs.
intelligent becomes a distinction without a difference.

I think people boggle at the notion of intelligence being
behind the universe because they anthropomorphize it,
visualizing a Very Big Person carefully planning things 
out.


 
 
 No humility, or wonder, or awe - the rest is just a bunch of random little 
 billiard balls out there; click, click, click, click. Oh, unless you're 
 talking about ME, the magnificent ME, ME, who cannot even see beyond my 
 floodlights, the edge of the stage. ME, the pinnacle of narcissistic wonder, 
 ME, alone making sense and comfort among the scary, disordered rabble of a 
 random little billiard ball universe. Ah, ME!





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


  I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but 
  to me, the universe does not look like it came about and is 
  maintained through random collisions of little billiard balls. 
  It seems to me that every level of creation, from the sub-
  atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is governed by 
  inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
  for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of 
  baggage.
 
turquoiseb:
 Just to play deva's advocate here, wouldn't it be an
 even *more* interesting universe if everything in it
 *had* evolved through nothing more (nor less) than 
 random collisions of little billiard balls?  :-)

If there were any random events in the universe, that
would exclude the possibility of human 'free will'. 

So that if you 'willed' the eight ball into a pocket, 
a red ball would come flying in from Norway and cause 
the eight ball to fall off the table onto your foot.

Or, if you shot the eightball into a socket, it would 
fly off the table and into the mouth of someone over 
in in India.

Far from being interesting, the world would be a very
frieghtening place, with billiard balls flying all
over the place! 

And, shit would be coming upstream instead of down, 
for no apparent reason. It would be chaos, fer sure, 
to have turds coming out of your mouth instead of
out of your ass.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous - Message to Occupy the World 11-18-11

2011-11-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
OMG.. My feelings exactly !!!

These unethical, competitive-mindset world has never understood and appreciated 
the peaceful, simple, good heartedness of the Krishnas,  Christs and the 
seekliberations of this world and their wives too..


On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:45 PM, seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Corporate warsyes, I remember writing a paper about how America tries to 
 introduce principles of the Kshatriya class into the Vaisya and Shudra 
 classes. All it does is stress everyone out in the process of trying to do 
 and achieve things beyond their own capacity. Unfortunately, competition 
 isn't just in the business world. My wife just started teaching, and from 
 what I gather, all the way down to kindergarten children in America our 
 society is dominated by a competitive mindset. Everyone is always trying to 
 get 'one up' on each other. Sometimes it's grossly obvious, and in other ways 
 it's subtle. But the stories I heard from her give every indication to me 
 that this competitive mindset is a part of our culture, not just our approach 
 to business. That being the case, my POV is that we need a cultural shift 
 more so than a policy change. If we induce a policy change or enact laws, the 
 competitive side in our culture will find a way to work around those policies 
 anyway. 
 
 This reminds me of a CD I listened to from Alan Watts where he talks about 
 how making tax laws is the only guarantee that taxing will be unfair. The 
 moment you make a law, the clever people come out of the woodwork to find 
 ways to work around that law. Then you make a new law that prevents clever 
 people from doing that, and they simply refine their approach and design a 
 way around the new law you just created. 
 
 From everything I read in Vedic literature or any other spiritual scripture, 
 less evolved people seem to be present and something we all have to deal 
 with. Even Lord Krishna had to deal with being kidnapped, attempted murder, 
 lots of hard work, fighting wars, and he even died from an accident by a 
 hunter (so even God is vulnerable to collateral damage). The situation with 
 Jesus was quite similar. 
 
 So my interpretation on this is that we should strive to make the world a 
 better place, but there's no reason to be that upset about the way things are 
 when even God himself comes here and doesn't necessarily get to live without 
 the frustration of unethical people. They're always going to be there for us 
 to deal with. (unless of course we get 7000 Siddhas flying together, in which 
 case all 6 billion people on Earth will instantly get along harmoniously for 
 eternity with no more ill intentions ever again). 
 
 seekliberation
 
 
  And I'm sure you'll find corporate heads that look at running their 
  business as like they are in a war. Ever hear of corporate wars? 
  Just look at Microsoft-Apple-Google for example. Sometimes we have to 
  dodge to stay out of the crossfire.
 
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread maskedzebra
But, Tom: You going to answer that post by Bob Price?

If you don't, it means you will have to stop the tomfoolery when it goes right 
off the deep end. 

He spoke to you, Tom. And by cracky your funny little tragic soul knows it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 
  On 11/22/2011 03:27 PM, authfriend wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@  wrote:
   LOL..thanks for the laughs.
   It's funny, but pepper spray is actually no joke. Anybody
   who thinks it's just a mild inconvenience resulting in a
   bit of temporary discomfort should read this analysis:
  
  
  http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/21/about-pepper-spray/
  
   http://tinyurl.com/855k9tk
  
   The spray can cause fatal respiratory failure in those
   with asthma or other respiratory conditions; it can
   injure the cornea with repeated exposure; and other
   chemical ingredients in the spray can also be harmful.
 
  I keep pepper spray in my car in case of aggressive cops, Republicans,
  car hijackers and dogs. The small pepper sprayer is only around $4-5.  I
  used to spread cayenne pepper on the strip of lawn in front of the
  family home to keep dogs from leaving their surprises there.
 
 
 
 May you and your car have a nice, hot Summer day.





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bolinsky animates a cell | Video on TED.com

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 snip
I don't know whether intelligence is infinite or not, but 
to me, the universe does not look like it came about and is 
maintained through random collisions of little billiard balls. 
It seems to me that every level of creation, from the sub-
atomic to the cosmic, animate and inanimate, is governed by 
inconceivable vast intelligence. Can't think of a better word
for it, except perhaps God, but that one carries a lot of 
baggage.
   
 [Barry wrote:]
   Just to play deva's advocate here, wouldn't it be an
   even *more* interesting universe if everything in it
   *had* evolved through nothing more (nor less) than 
   random collisions of little billiard balls? :-)
   
 [Rick wrote:]
   I suppose, but impossibly improbable.
  
  I agree. Also by presupposing that the universe evolved and 
  continues to in a random fashion, is placing human
  intelligence at the peak of intelligence in the universe,
  because we understand it. The only type of intelligence
  worth even considering is that which we can comprehend,
  within the tidy sphere of our human intellect.
 
 Or to put it another way, when random collisions of little
 billiard balls produce the extraordinary complexity of
 (just for one thing) cells as shown in the TED animation
 (except that, as he says, the animation doesn't cover even
 a percentage of the real complexity), that pretty much
 renders the concept random meaningless; random vs.
 intelligent becomes a distinction without a difference.
 
 I think people boggle at the notion of intelligence being
 behind the universe because they anthropomorphize it,
 visualizing a Very Big Person carefully planning things 
 out.
 
** Ah, you've opened a great big can of wonderful worms with me. I agree that 
as a result of an over simplified, watered down, very weak representation of 
spirituality through religion (which is usually our  first cultural exposure to 
the idea of God), this Big Guy In The Sky Blond Blue Eyed Jesus thing took over 
at some point in American Christianity, and those who are insisting, no, its 
all little random movement of tiny spheres do so in the mistaken belief that 
their distinction is closer to a model of reality, but its more of a a 
knee-jerk reaction. Personally I enjoy the lively richness of life, and the 
wonder and grace and violence and sympathy of it all, I would much rather 
ascribe that to the mystery and magnificence of God than little, itty bitty 
billiard balls. :-) 
  
  
  No humility, or wonder, or awe - the rest is just a bunch of random little 
  billiard balls out there; click, click, click, click. Oh, unless you're 
  talking about ME, the magnificent ME, ME, who cannot even see beyond my 
  floodlights, the edge of the stage. ME, the pinnacle of narcissistic 
  wonder, ME, alone making sense and comfort among the scary, disordered 
  rabble of a random little billiard ball universe. Ah, ME!
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
  
  Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
 


I like to drum along with Ich will:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related

The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
power of the German language is rather obvious...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous - Message to Occupy the World 11-18-11

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7
Surrender becomes a big part of life - eases the way when it all goes to 
Vishnu, Shiva, Krishna, and Braman as appropriate. I pray before I put anything 
into my body, since this is the sacred vessel I am entrusted with. So I develop 
a personal relationship with the Gods, such as I can, and the Divine beings, 
the Angels, ex: Archangel Michael, to integrate them and participate with them 
in this wondrous creation. N'est-ce pas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 OMG.. My feelings exactly !!!
 
 These unethical, competitive-mindset world has never understood and 
 appreciated the peaceful, simple, good heartedness of the Krishnas,  Christs 
 and the seekliberations of this world and their wives too..
 
 
 On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:45 PM, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote:
 
  Corporate warsyes, I remember writing a paper about how America tries 
  to introduce principles of the Kshatriya class into the Vaisya and Shudra 
  classes. All it does is stress everyone out in the process of trying to do 
  and achieve things beyond their own capacity. Unfortunately, competition 
  isn't just in the business world. My wife just started teaching, and from 
  what I gather, all the way down to kindergarten children in America our 
  society is dominated by a competitive mindset. Everyone is always trying to 
  get 'one up' on each other. Sometimes it's grossly obvious, and in other 
  ways it's subtle. But the stories I heard from her give every indication to 
  me that this competitive mindset is a part of our culture, not just our 
  approach to business. That being the case, my POV is that we need a 
  cultural shift more so than a policy change. If we induce a policy change 
  or enact laws, the competitive side in our culture will find a way to work 
  around those policies anyway. 
  
  This reminds me of a CD I listened to from Alan Watts where he talks about 
  how making tax laws is the only guarantee that taxing will be unfair. The 
  moment you make a law, the clever people come out of the woodwork to find 
  ways to work around that law. Then you make a new law that prevents clever 
  people from doing that, and they simply refine their approach and design a 
  way around the new law you just created. 
  
  From everything I read in Vedic literature or any other spiritual 
  scripture, less evolved people seem to be present and something we all have 
  to deal with. Even Lord Krishna had to deal with being kidnapped, attempted 
  murder, lots of hard work, fighting wars, and he even died from an accident 
  by a hunter (so even God is vulnerable to collateral damage). The situation 
  with Jesus was quite similar. 
  
  So my interpretation on this is that we should strive to make the world a 
  better place, but there's no reason to be that upset about the way things 
  are when even God himself comes here and doesn't necessarily get to live 
  without the frustration of unethical people. They're always going to be 
  there for us to deal with. (unless of course we get 7000 Siddhas flying 
  together, in which case all 6 billion people on Earth will instantly get 
  along harmoniously for eternity with no more ill intentions ever again). 
  
  seekliberation
  
  
   And I'm sure you'll find corporate heads that look at running their 
   business as like they are in a war. Ever hear of corporate wars? 
   Just look at Microsoft-Apple-Google for example. Sometimes we have to 
   dodge to stay out of the crossfire.
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Yep...he grooves pretty hypnotically wellholy crap!




 From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
  
  Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
 


I like to drum along with Ich will:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related

The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
power of the German language is rather obvious...


 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7
I am genetically 25% German, so I enjoy the culture. I liked that Rammstein 
video. The rest of me is 25% Norwegian, 25% Irish and 25% Welsh. Precision and 
art. Restraint and humor. No fame or fortune. :-0 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  
   Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
   
   Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
  
 
 
 I like to drum along with Ich will:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related
 
 The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
 even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
 power of the German language is rather obvious...





[FairfieldLife] 99 percent

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7
saw a stat in a paper on-line, 0.01 percent of the US population take 50% of 
the capital gains (50% of any stock market profits).

This is dedicated to them:

99 percent - 52 seconds

http://www.box.com/s/j5qqtvyi7v7uit7y6oib

f*ck you one percent

hey hey all you cops spraying people
and braying about it,
you're the joke

hey all you cops getting used and abused,
throw off the yoke

f*ck you one percent

ninety nine percent 
ninety nine percent

f*ck you one percent

ninety nine percent 
ninety nine percent

f*ck you one percent

f*ck you one percent

ninety nine percent 
ninety nine percent

copyright temple dog





[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread obbajeeba
\,,/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
 
 Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related





[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-11-23 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter
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Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 19 00:00:00 2011
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465 messages as of (UTC) Thu Nov 24 00:10:15 2011

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43 authfriend jst...@panix.com
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[FairfieldLife] UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-23 Thread raunchydog
Here's the sordid back-story: Linda Katehi was born in Athens in 1954 and got 
her undergraduate degree at the famous Athens Polytechnic. She just happened to 
be the right age to be a student at the Polytechnic university on the very day, 
November 17, 1973, when the junta sent in tanks and soldiers to crush her 
fellow pro-democracy students. It was only after democracy was restored in 
1974–and Greek university campuses were turned into police-free asylum 
zones–that Linda Katehi eventually moved to the USA, earning her PhD at UCLA.

Earlier this year, Linda Katehi served on an International Committee On Higher 
Education In Greece, along with a handful of American, European and Asian 
academics. The ostensible goal was to reform Greece's university system. The 
real problem, from the real powers behind the scenes (banksters and the EU), 
was how to get Greece under control as the austerity-screws tightened. It 
didn't take a genius to figure out that squeezing more money from Greece's 
beleaguered citizens would mean clamping down on Greece's democracy and doing 
something about those pesky Greek university students. And that meant taking 
away the universities' amnesty protection, in place for nearly four decades, 
so that no one, nowhere, would be safe from police truncheons, gas, or bullets.

Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi, university 
freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step backwards.

Read more:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/mark-ames-how-uc-davis-chancellor-linda-katehi-brought-oppression-back-to-greece%E2%80%99s-universities.html
http://tinyurl.com/bngc4jb



Re: [FairfieldLife] UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
 university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
 backwards.


UC Davis' Affirmative Action Chancellor.  There was a time in a universe
far away where people had to be qualified to hold a position other than by
quota.


[FairfieldLife] Rammstein - Amerika

2011-11-23 Thread whynotnow7
I think I can hear them up there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yydlX7c8HbY



[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

2011-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 Judy, they were breaking the law!

BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in Mr. Dictionary.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
OMG !! My heart started racing when I saw the I'm German part, anything more 
than 25 you will end up being that intellectual pervert - Angela M, unless of 
course your first name is either Judy or Denise :-)

On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:40 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am genetically 25% German, so I enjoy the culture. I liked that Rammstein 
 video. The rest of me is 25% Norwegian, 25% Irish and 25% Welsh. Precision 
 and art. Restraint and humor. No fame or fortune. :-0 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
   
Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  

Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
   
  
  
  I like to drum along with Ich will:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related
  
  The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
  even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
  power of the German language is rather obvious...
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Obaanow, remember, I'm just jumpin' on the utube thing - it's 
really me that is in utube school :).  And I still keep my dictionary close at 
hand to translate certain words and phrases in maskedzebra and Judy's posts.  
And, the YMMV, ROTFLMAO, wrt, FWIW, IMO, etc. acronyms are just starting to 
stick.  What language is this, pray tell.  

^.^






 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream
 

  
\,,/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
 
 Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related



 



[FairfieldLife] Mobbed: tonight, midnight FOX television

2011-11-23 Thread maskedzebra
Watch Howie Mandel's MOBBED tonight at midnight on FOX.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Rammstein - Amerika

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Nice, actually and we are so fortunate to so be.  




 From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rammstein - Amerika
 

  
I think I can hear them up there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yydlX7c8HbY


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread Emily Reyn
IDK, LY, TTYL.  

(My daughter intuitively sensing my language barrier just sent me thatso 
I'm paying it forward to you, Ravi)




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream
 

  
OMG !! My heart started racing when I saw the I'm German part, anything more 
than 25 you will end up being that intellectual pervert - Angela M, unless of 
course your first name is either Judy or Denise :-)

On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:40 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote:


  
I am genetically 25% German, so I enjoy the culture. I liked that Rammstein 
video. The rest of me is 25% Norwegian, 25% Irish and 25% Welsh. Precision 
and art. Restraint and humor. No fame or fortune. :-0 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  
   Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
   
   Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
  
 
 
 I like to drum along with Ich will:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related
 
 The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
 even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
 power of the German language is rather obvious...



 



[FairfieldLife] German soldier on Stalin

2011-11-23 Thread Yifu
WWII:

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/40405.jpg



[FairfieldLife] General Anton Dostler

2011-11-23 Thread Yifu
The General being prepared for execution, 1945:
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/35244.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-23 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
 
  Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
  university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
  backwards.
 
 
 UC Davis' Affirmative Action Chancellor.  There was a time in a universe
 far away where people had to be qualified to hold a position other than by
 quota.


So it's all about a bug about blacks and women, again. Sounds familiar, Tom. 
Moaning about the excesses of affirmative action is such an old saw. What's up 
with that? Are you concerned that some poor pissed upon white guy who usually 
gets a leg up from *his* good old boy affirmative action network might not be 
able to compete on a level playing field with a person with equal 
qualifications from an underrepresented group?  Do you think there are so many 
job openings for chancellor of a university that Katehi's appointment simply 
fulfilled a quota?

Katehi isn't a lightweight who didn't earn or deserve her position as 
chancellor of UC Davis. Her curriculum vitae could compete with any man for the 
job she holds. 
http://chancellor.ucdavis.edu/about/index.html

But that's not the point of the article, is it?




[FairfieldLife] Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-23 Thread Bhairitu
This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc

Enjoy!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-23 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
 http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc
 
 Enjoy!


Thanks for posting. I like that your characters are from all walks of life. My 
favorite video on your channel is Night of the Dreadful Republicans Very 
funny. What program did you use to make that?



[FairfieldLife] Windows Phone outselling Android??

2011-11-23 Thread cardemaister


Nokia Lumia 800 outselling all Android phones on Vodafone UK, KPN Netherlands 
online stores




[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-23 Thread cardemaister

This seems to be pretty sarcastic, especially the final scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4vIzEkd6sfeature=related



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 I am genetically 25% German, so I enjoy the culture. I liked that Rammstein 
 video. The rest of me is 25% Norwegian, 25% Irish and 25% Welsh. Precision 
 and art. Restraint and humor. No fame or fortune. :-0 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
   
Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  

Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
   
  
  
  I like to drum along with Ich will:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related
  
  The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
  even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
  power of the German language is rather obvious...