[FairfieldLife] At Last
Can we dedicate this tune to Etta James who originally sang it?. Beyonce gives her own rendition as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbF--V3_eQ&feature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
Ecrasez l'infame! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I don't know who's image is on the shroud, though I find it amazing that > > such a thing persists in outfoxing the most delicate and sophisticated > > analysis our physical science can produce.> > > It isn't that it is outfoxing science. It is a work of art by any standard > and it isn't cool to destroy it because of a superstition. Science came > through on dating it, so unless Jesus lived in the middle ages, it isn't him. > > < Its interesting from a perspective of what researchers continue to find out > about the cloth itself and its charismatic image. Who cares if someone says > its Jesus? Could be, but who cares? Not really the issue.> > > I think it really is. If it wasn't being protected as a relic they would be > able to take enough samples to answer more questions. Superstition is > protecting this work of art and it is being treated differently because of > that. It is really ONLY the superstition connection that makes it a matter > of interest at all. That period of history was full of relics that just > didn't get preserved to make it to our time. > > < They still cannot identify how the image was made. That is mysterious and > lively and interesting to me. Whether or not such an image is Jesus is > impossible to prove, and far less interesting. > > > > The whole idea fascinates me in a different way. It is a window into human > beliefs. Since it came from an age of relics being sold, it has the mystical > credibility of a sideshow three headed dog in a bottle of formaldehyde in the > back of a carnival tent. Step right up folks, Jesus' burial shroud, with his > image as clear as a painting of Elvis on velvet, step right up. > > I saw some saint's relics in a monastery I visited. Some fingernails and > cloth of some saints. Leftovers from the time the rich paid for indulgences > to get out of purgatory quicker. This shroud has a context of the flim > flamery of an era of relics sold for cash. It is a version of Jesus on the > toast sold on ebay. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda. > > > > > > These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford. What they are doing is: > > > > > > "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation > > > can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar > > > characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists > > > said" > > > > > > OK, so lets take them at their word. Some of the "pecular > > > charactoristics" of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another > > > process only found today. > > > > > > Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around > > > either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made, > > > 12601390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made. > > > > > > Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry. The need for Christmas miracle > > > stories to feed the hoards trumps all! > > > > > > Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... > > > so it was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus. Jesus was magic and made > > > a magic cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical > > > things happening at this magical time of the year. > > > > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally > > > > releases chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come > > > > from ultraviolet light. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, > > > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet > > > > > > light. How can that be? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
Choke it to death, Curtis. Kill it. Hang and quarter it. Bury it at the bottom of the ocean. Have vultures eat its bones. Grind it into dust. Spit it out. Hammer it into tiny pieces. Ban it. Throw rocks at it. Stab its eyes out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I don't know who's image is on the shroud, though I find it amazing that > > such a thing persists in outfoxing the most delicate and sophisticated > > analysis our physical science can produce.> > > It isn't that it is outfoxing science. It is a work of art by any standard > and it isn't cool to destroy it because of a superstition. Science came > through on dating it, so unless Jesus lived in the middle ages, it isn't him. > > < Its interesting from a perspective of what researchers continue to find out > about the cloth itself and its charismatic image. Who cares if someone says > its Jesus? Could be, but who cares? Not really the issue.> > > I think it really is. If it wasn't being protected as a relic they would be > able to take enough samples to answer more questions. Superstition is > protecting this work of art and it is being treated differently because of > that. It is really ONLY the superstition connection that makes it a matter > of interest at all. That period of history was full of relics that just > didn't get preserved to make it to our time. > > < They still cannot identify how the image was made. That is mysterious and > lively and interesting to me. Whether or not such an image is Jesus is > impossible to prove, and far less interesting. > > > > The whole idea fascinates me in a different way. It is a window into human > beliefs. Since it came from an age of relics being sold, it has the mystical > credibility of a sideshow three headed dog in a bottle of formaldehyde in the > back of a carnival tent. Step right up folks, Jesus' burial shroud, with his > image as clear as a painting of Elvis on velvet, step right up. > > I saw some saint's relics in a monastery I visited. Some fingernails and > cloth of some saints. Leftovers from the time the rich paid for indulgences > to get out of purgatory quicker. This shroud has a context of the flim > flamery of an era of relics sold for cash. It is a version of Jesus on the > toast sold on ebay. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda. > > > > > > These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford. What they are doing is: > > > > > > "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation > > > can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar > > > characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists > > > said" > > > > > > OK, so lets take them at their word. Some of the "pecular > > > charactoristics" of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another > > > process only found today. > > > > > > Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around > > > either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made, > > > 12601390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made. > > > > > > Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry. The need for Christmas miracle > > > stories to feed the hoards trumps all! > > > > > > Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... > > > so it was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus. Jesus was magic and made > > > a magic cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical > > > things happening at this magical time of the year. > > > > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally > > > > releases chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come > > > > from ultraviolet light. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, > > > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet > > > > > > light. How can that be? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I was just at TDs too - I took a chance and discovered their house brand > Reposado is not bad, and they hooked me again with the 3-pack of milk > chocolate bars at the checkout. Mostly its the restock on Oregon > Chai/regular, (hard core, at least a dozen) that brings me in though. I'm a fool for their pound plus 72% chocolate bars. I consider it health food and a necessary daily vitamin.Their whole wheat hard pasta rocks. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Trader Joes came through again, no yagya needed! But I always do get a > > wallet spanking when I hit the check out there. I only went for the > > Pfeffernuesse because they were out of Lebkuchen. If there was a yagya for > > that I might consider the magic route to fulfillment of desire. Some year I > > need to nail down that recipe and liberate myself. I do make a badass > > Stollen this time of year, even my German friend gives it the salute. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > > > Certainly, you can keep your mouth shut, but it would be best to open > > > your wallet and get a Maharishi Pfeffernuesse Cookie Yagya to maximize > > > the fulfillment of your desire. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I don't know who's image is on the shroud, though I find it amazing that such > a thing persists in outfoxing the most delicate and sophisticated analysis > our physical science can produce.> It isn't that it is outfoxing science. It is a work of art by any standard and it isn't cool to destroy it because of a superstition. Science came through on dating it, so unless Jesus lived in the middle ages, it isn't him. < Its interesting from a perspective of what researchers continue to find out about the cloth itself and its charismatic image. Who cares if someone says its Jesus? Could be, but who cares? Not really the issue.> I think it really is. If it wasn't being protected as a relic they would be able to take enough samples to answer more questions. Superstition is protecting this work of art and it is being treated differently because of that. It is really ONLY the superstition connection that makes it a matter of interest at all. That period of history was full of relics that just didn't get preserved to make it to our time. < They still cannot identify how the image was made. That is mysterious and lively and interesting to me. Whether or not such an image is Jesus is impossible to prove, and far less interesting. > The whole idea fascinates me in a different way. It is a window into human beliefs. Since it came from an age of relics being sold, it has the mystical credibility of a sideshow three headed dog in a bottle of formaldehyde in the back of a carnival tent. Step right up folks, Jesus' burial shroud, with his image as clear as a painting of Elvis on velvet, step right up. I saw some saint's relics in a monastery I visited. Some fingernails and cloth of some saints. Leftovers from the time the rich paid for indulgences to get out of purgatory quicker. This shroud has a context of the flim flamery of an era of relics sold for cash. It is a version of Jesus on the toast sold on ebay. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda. > > > > These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford. What they are doing is: > > > > "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation > > can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar > > characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists > > said" > > > > OK, so lets take them at their word. Some of the "pecular charactoristics" > > of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another process only found > > today. > > > > Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around > > either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made, > > 12601390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made. > > > > Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry. The need for Christmas miracle stories > > to feed the hoards trumps all! > > > > Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... so > > it was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus. Jesus was magic and made a > > magic cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical things > > happening at this magical time of the year. > > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases > > > chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from > > > ultraviolet light. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, > > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. > > > > > How can that be? > > > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Dear Hollow William, Make a thread that only two are in a discussion? Bhahahaha. Bhahahahaha. As if. Bhahahaha. Why not try private email, then you can have the silence you desire? Bhahahahaha. Power complex setting in? I got some roach crushers in my pick up and they are really pointy. [picks teeth with a pitch fork.] Leave my Emily alone. Leave my cross dressing Turq alone, too. Better yet, make a thread so evolved, no one will know what you are talking about, then no one will wish to add to a thread for fearing to tread on hallow ground. Bhaha. find hahah. your hahaha own hahahah thread. hahahah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LEAiGDw220&feature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Perhaps you should just check your own messages since I was in a > discussion with Robin. Remember him? You did bring up his name. > > However, I have a better idea. > > I'll start another thread directly with Robin. Then Steve, you and Bari2 > can comment or interject if you see fit but none of you will highjack > it. > > I don't request this of Barry-atric-I since he can neither make nor hold > agreements. For him, that would imply a standard and might suggest that > there could be something other than his mere opinion. > > Whada you think? > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn > wrote: > > > > Check your sent messagesthis thread has evolved in many > directions, including one that you chimed in on that has absolutely nada > to do with the original letter written by Robin. Â > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
I was just at TDs too - I took a chance and discovered their house brand Reposado is not bad, and they hooked me again with the 3-pack of milk chocolate bars at the checkout. Mostly its the restock on Oregon Chai/regular, (hard core, at least a dozen) that brings me in though. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Trader Joes came through again, no yagya needed! But I always do get a > wallet spanking when I hit the check out there. I only went for the > Pfeffernuesse because they were out of Lebkuchen. If there was a yagya for > that I might consider the magic route to fulfillment of desire. Some year I > need to nail down that recipe and liberate myself. I do make a badass > Stollen this time of year, even my German friend gives it the salute. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > Certainly, you can keep your mouth shut, but it would be best to open your > > wallet and get a Maharishi Pfeffernuesse Cookie Yagya to maximize the > > fulfillment of your desire. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
I don't know who's image is on the shroud, though I find it amazing that such a thing persists in outfoxing the most delicate and sophisticated analysis our physical science can produce. Its interesting from a perspective of what researchers continue to find out about the cloth itself and its charismatic image. Who cares if someone says its Jesus? Could be, but who cares? Not really the issue. They still cannot identify how the image was made. That is mysterious and lively and interesting to me. Whether or not such an image is Jesus is impossible to prove, and far less interesting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda. > > These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford. What they are doing is: > > "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can > colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics > of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists said" > > OK, so lets take them at their word. Some of the "pecular charactoristics" > of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another process only found > today. > > Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around > either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made, > 12601390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made. > > Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry. The need for Christmas miracle stories > to feed the hoards trumps all! > > Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... so it > was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus. Jesus was magic and made a magic > cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical things happening > at this magical time of the year. > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases > > chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from ultraviolet > > light. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. > > > > How can that be? > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
There's a tradition that the shroud came from the tomb of Jesus. So, the believers can latch onto this belief and make a big deal out of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Could be, although if that were the case and common, seems like the S of T > wouldn't be a big deal? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases > > chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from ultraviolet > > light. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. > > > > How can that be? > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
I checked mine...just wasn't sure why you brought up my name as "hijaking" the thread...I responded to a few post, including yours, but it's been all over the place, split apart, and has headed in many directions. It would be easier overall if people switch topics and subject lines simultaneously, I agree. I found that to be incredibly confusing in the beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFYcd6zmlFs&feature=related > > From: emptybill >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:32 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi >Chivukula > > > > >Perhaps you should just check your own messages since I was in a >discussion with Robin. Remember him? You did bring up his name. > >However, I have a better idea. > >I'll start another thread directly with Robin. Then Steve, you and Bari2 >can comment or interject if you see fit but none of you will highjack >it. > >I don't request this of Barry-atric-I since he can neither make nor hold >agreements. For him, that would imply a standard and might suggest that >there could be something other than his mere opinion. > >Whada you think? > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn >wrote: >> >> Check your sent messagesthis thread has evolved in many >directions, including one that you chimed in on that has absolutely nada >to do with the original letter written by Robin. Â >> > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Perhaps you should just check your own messages since I was in a discussion with Robin. Remember him? You did bring up his name. However, I have a better idea. I'll start another thread directly with Robin. Then Steve, you and Bari2 can comment or interject if you see fit but none of you will highjack it. I don't request this of Barry-atric-I since he can neither make nor hold agreements. For him, that would imply a standard and might suggest that there could be something other than his mere opinion. Whada you think? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Check your sent messagesthis thread has evolved in many directions, including one that you chimed in on that has absolutely nada to do with the original letter written by Robin. Â >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
Trader Joes came through again, no yagya needed! But I always do get a wallet spanking when I hit the check out there. I only went for the Pfeffernuesse because they were out of Lebkuchen. If there was a yagya for that I might consider the magic route to fulfillment of desire. Some year I need to nail down that recipe and liberate myself. I do make a badass Stollen this time of year, even my German friend gives it the salute. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > Certainly, you can keep your mouth shut, but it would be best to open your > wallet and get a Maharishi Pfeffernuesse Cookie Yagya to maximize the > fulfillment of your desire. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
No matter how you cut it, there will always be arguments for both sides. If the shroud really came from the body of Jesus in the tomb, then the Christians would have stronger reason to believe so after this scientific finding. For skeptics, the finding would only raise more questions which can't be answered as of now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda. > > These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford. What they are doing is: > > "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can > colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics > of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists said" > > OK, so lets take them at their word. Some of the "pecular charactoristics" > of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another process only found > today. > > Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around > either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made, > 12601390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made. > > Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry. The need for Christmas miracle stories > to feed the hoards trumps all! > > Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... so it > was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus. Jesus was magic and made a magic > cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical things happening > at this magical time of the year. > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases > > chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from ultraviolet > > light. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. > > > > How can that be? > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. Certainly, you can keep your mouth shut, but it would be best to open your wallet and get a Maharishi Pfeffernuesse Cookie Yagya to maximize the fulfillment of your desire.
[FairfieldLife] Featuring Neo-Advaitin Rodney Stevens
Says he practiced TM for a few months. A 30 sec scrutiny of his statements
leaves me with some doubts; but he deserves further investigation on my part.
Offhand I'd say another typical ("give up all Paths and just Be" Neo-Advaitin);
of course ymmv...
...
http://www.nondualitymagazine.org/nondualitymagazine.4.rodneystevens.interview.part2.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
Could be, although if that were the case and common, seems like the S of T wouldn't be a big deal? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases > chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from ultraviolet > light. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, leaving > > its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. > > > How can that be? > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda. These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford. What they are doing is: "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists said" OK, so lets take them at their word. Some of the "pecular charactoristics" of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another process only found today. Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made, 12601390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made. Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry. The need for Christmas miracle stories to feed the hoards trumps all! Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... so it was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus. Jesus was magic and made a magic cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical things happening at this magical time of the year. Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases > chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from ultraviolet > light. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, leaving > > its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. > > > How can that be? > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > > > > >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
There's probably another explanation. Maybe the body naturally releases chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come from ultraviolet light. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, leaving > its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. How > > can that be? > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Check your sent messagesthis thread has evolved in many directions, including one that you chimed in on that has absolutely nada to do with the original letter written by Robin. > > From: emptybill >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:20 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi >Chivukula > > > > >How about this challenge. > >You, Barry and Emily stop highjacking this thread and make one of your >own. > >Barry can then promote his "there is no truth but opinion" and feel >accomplished. > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" >wrote: >> >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: >> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ >> wrote: >> > > >> > > This is along the lines of something I was thinking about as >> > > I was driving home from more errands. For the most part, I >> > > think Vaj does reply to his critics. >> > >> > And why should he? I'll wait. >> I don't care if he does or not. But if you are participating in a >forum >> like this, (or especially this forum), then you are going to be >> challenged. And if you feel that the person or persons making the >> challenge are sincere, even if they may be harsh, then I would think >you >> would want to respond. Otherwise you may appear as though you don't >> have the wherewithal to back up your claims or opinions. But as far as >> I'm concerned he has no obligation to respond to any challenge. People >> will draw their own conclusion about what motivates people here. I >will >> have to read the rest of this post later. Thanks. >> >> I think it says something about someone if they are willing to face >> others who may want to question them about >> > > Exceptions would be you and Jim. And because he does respond >> > > (exceptions noted), I think those relationships have an >> > > opportunity to change, to "evolve" even to a more friendly >> > > ground on ocassion. >> > >> > I have seen little evidence of this. What seems to happen >> > from my POV is that Vaj occasionally responds to the >> > same old same old attacks on him, it goes back and >> > forth a few times, the attackers believing that they've >> > "won" something because they got him to respond, and >> > then it starts all over again. If this is what you mean >> > by "evolving," I leave that definition of "evolution" to >> > you; it strikes me as being as boring and non-productive >> > as the TM version of the word. :-) >> > >> > > Barry, on the other hand has chosen not to respond to anyone >> > > he finds unacceptable. >> > >> > Not true. I have been very clear about who I no longer >> > interact with, and why. I don't bother with people I >> > no longer find interesting in any way. >> > >> > I have my own reasons for this, most of which I have >> > patiently explained. None of the six people on my >> > personal "No Fly" list can write worth a damn, none >> > of them *ever* seem to have anything new to say, >> > and all of them are to some extent obsessives. That >> > is, their onscreen life here seems to revolve around >> > "getting" one or more of the people they have developed >> > grudges against. >> > >> > BORING. If you wish to waste your time on the hundreth >> > or thousandth iteration of "Vaj is a liar," that's your >> > business. I prefer to leave the attackers to their (IMO) >> > petty and demeaning (to themselves), somewhat mentally >> > ill games. >> > >> > > And because of that most (or at least many) of his >> > > relationshiops here are frozen. No chance of change. >> > >> > With those six? Absolutely. Not one of their "one year >> > countdown clocks" have started ticking yet. They need >> > to demonstrate a full year of non-obsession and actually >> > saying something new before I bother interacting with >> > them again. (See previously-reported conversation with >> > the psychiatrist head of a mental hospital for my >> > reliance on this rule of thumb.) >> > >> > With others, I am open to being surprised, and equally >> > open to interesting discussions, should they come up. >> > The thing is, most of the time they don't, because (IMO) >> > most people here are hooked on the ongoing soap opera, >> > and don't actually have that much new or interesting >> > to say themselves. They rather -- ahem, like you -- >> > provoke the same old tired-to-death egobattles again >> > and again, so that they can log in and put their two >> > cents in, as if *they* were saying something new or >> > interesting. From my POV, I reward only things I >> > consider to be *actually* new and interesting. >> > >> > Your life, and how you choose to spend the rest of it, >> > are up to you. Talk with whomever you want, and say >> > whatever you want. But don't expect me to chime in >> > as if it were interesting if I don't find it to be. >> > The non-issue of whether Vaj was a TM teacher is as >> > unintere
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
How about this challenge. You, Barry and Emily stop highjacking this thread and make one of your own. Barry can then promote his "there is no truth but opinion" and feel accomplished. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > This is along the lines of something I was thinking about as > > > I was driving home from more errands. For the most part, I > > > think Vaj does reply to his critics. > > > > And why should he? I'll wait. > I don't care if he does or not. But if you are participating in a forum > like this, (or especially this forum), then you are going to be > challenged. And if you feel that the person or persons making the > challenge are sincere, even if they may be harsh, then I would think you > would want to respond. Otherwise you may appear as though you don't > have the wherewithal to back up your claims or opinions. But as far as > I'm concerned he has no obligation to respond to any challenge. People > will draw their own conclusion about what motivates people here. I will > have to read the rest of this post later. Thanks. > > I think it says something about someone if they are willing to face > others who may want to question them about > > > Exceptions would be you and Jim. And because he does respond > > > (exceptions noted), I think those relationships have an > > > opportunity to change, to "evolve" even to a more friendly > > > ground on ocassion. > > > > I have seen little evidence of this. What seems to happen > > from my POV is that Vaj occasionally responds to the > > same old same old attacks on him, it goes back and > > forth a few times, the attackers believing that they've > > "won" something because they got him to respond, and > > then it starts all over again. If this is what you mean > > by "evolving," I leave that definition of "evolution" to > > you; it strikes me as being as boring and non-productive > > as the TM version of the word. :-) > > > > > Barry, on the other hand has chosen not to respond to anyone > > > he finds unacceptable. > > > > Not true. I have been very clear about who I no longer > > interact with, and why. I don't bother with people I > > no longer find interesting in any way. > > > > I have my own reasons for this, most of which I have > > patiently explained. None of the six people on my > > personal "No Fly" list can write worth a damn, none > > of them *ever* seem to have anything new to say, > > and all of them are to some extent obsessives. That > > is, their onscreen life here seems to revolve around > > "getting" one or more of the people they have developed > > grudges against. > > > > BORING. If you wish to waste your time on the hundreth > > or thousandth iteration of "Vaj is a liar," that's your > > business. I prefer to leave the attackers to their (IMO) > > petty and demeaning (to themselves), somewhat mentally > > ill games. > > > > > And because of that most (or at least many) of his > > > relationshiops here are frozen. No chance of change. > > > > With those six? Absolutely. Not one of their "one year > > countdown clocks" have started ticking yet. They need > > to demonstrate a full year of non-obsession and actually > > saying something new before I bother interacting with > > them again. (See previously-reported conversation with > > the psychiatrist head of a mental hospital for my > > reliance on this rule of thumb.) > > > > With others, I am open to being surprised, and equally > > open to interesting discussions, should they come up. > > The thing is, most of the time they don't, because (IMO) > > most people here are hooked on the ongoing soap opera, > > and don't actually have that much new or interesting > > to say themselves. They rather -- ahem, like you -- > > provoke the same old tired-to-death egobattles again > > and again, so that they can log in and put their two > > cents in, as if *they* were saying something new or > > interesting. From my POV, I reward only things I > > consider to be *actually* new and interesting. > > > > Your life, and how you choose to spend the rest of it, > > are up to you. Talk with whomever you want, and say > > whatever you want. But don't expect me to chime in > > as if it were interesting if I don't find it to be. > > The non-issue of whether Vaj was a TM teacher is as > > uninteresting as a subject can possibly be. > > > > How many times do you have to either hear " > name of today's victim> is a liar and SO much less > > moral than I am" before you find it boring and stop > > encouraging it by piling on? Wasn't it OLD for you > > after the hundreth iteration? After the thousandth? > > > > If not, I leave you to what fascinates you in life. > > I have other fascinations. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
On 12/22/2011 02:32 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 12/22/2011 01:17 PM, turquoiseb wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was hoping that "Enlightened" might be FFL on TV which would make for either a great comedy or an insane thriller. But that didn't happen. >>> Have no fear. Watch "Salvation Boulevard" instead. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiYHfciJwE >>> >>> Greg Kennear plays Carl, a former Deadhead who now >>> is a member of a megachurch led by Pastor Dan (Pierce >>> Brosnan). All goes well (if you can call a boring, >>> brainwashed life "going well") until Pastor Dan >>> accidentally shoots the atheist author he was just >>> debating, and then decides to blame it all on Carl. >>> >>> The cult language is Christian, not Neo-Hindu, but >>> the rap is the same and the mindset is the same. To >>> hear the church members both lay into Carl and >>> defend Pastor Dan -- even the ones who know that >>> he did the shooting -- is in many ways a Fairfield >>> Life deja vu experience...and interestingly it's >>> both a comedy *and* an insane thriller. :-) You'd >>> probably like it. Cool performances by Jennifer >>> Connolly and Marisa Tomei, too. >> It hasn't released on DVD in the US yet. A release list shows >> "undecided" for all retail and rental channels. I was able to put a >> "save" on Netflix though. Funny because it had summer release in >> the US. The IMDB message board had threads like "why does >> Hollywood always dump on Christians and never Muslims!" Oh boy. > Sounds like something right out of the movie. :-) > > I initially heard it talked about after its showing > at Sundance. It's not great, but it's amusing. Pierce > Brosnan does an admirable impression of a bat shit > crazy person. Wonder if the slow release to DVD is fear of Christian reprisals? But if IFC Films is the distributor it could wind up on Netflix streaming soon. "American Horror Story" finished off the first season with a great episode which looked like they threw in what might have been the alternate ending if it hadn't gotten renewed (which it did and is up for awards). I'm hoping they stay away from any Christian theology in the show as right now it is very secular or more along the lines of Asian (also tantric) ghost lore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> On 12/22/2011 01:17 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> > > I was hoping that "Enlightened" might be FFL on TV which
> > > would make for either a great comedy or an insane thriller.
> > > But that didn't happen.
> >
> > Have no fear. Watch "Salvation Boulevard" instead.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiYHfciJwE
> >
> > Greg Kennear plays Carl, a former Deadhead who now
> > is a member of a megachurch led by Pastor Dan (Pierce
> > Brosnan). All goes well (if you can call a boring,
> > brainwashed life "going well") until Pastor Dan
> > accidentally shoots the atheist author he was just
> > debating, and then decides to blame it all on Carl.
> >
> > The cult language is Christian, not Neo-Hindu, but
> > the rap is the same and the mindset is the same. To
> > hear the church members both lay into Carl and
> > defend Pastor Dan -- even the ones who know that
> > he did the shooting -- is in many ways a Fairfield
> > Life deja vu experience...and interestingly it's
> > both a comedy *and* an insane thriller. :-) You'd
> > probably like it. Cool performances by Jennifer
> > Connolly and Marisa Tomei, too.
>
> It hasn't released on DVD in the US yet. A release list shows
> "undecided" for all retail and rental channels. I was able to put a
> "save" on Netflix though. Funny because it had summer release in
> the US. The IMDB message board had threads like "why does
> Hollywood always dump on Christians and never Muslims!" Oh boy.
Sounds like something right out of the movie. :-)
I initially heard it talked about after its showing
at Sundance. It's not great, but it's amusing. Pierce
Brosnan does an admirable impression of a bat shit
crazy person.
> Now for something much closer to FFL try the 1993 British
> mini-series "Buddha of Suburbia" with Naveen Andrews ("Lost").
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105963/
>
> What is not mentioned in the synopsis is Naveen's character's
> father played by Roshan Seth is an accountant who plays "guru"
> to gullible westerners.
That sounds interesting. I'll look for it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
On 12/22/2011 01:17 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>> I was hoping that "Enlightened" might be FFL on TV which
>> would make for either a great comedy or an insane thriller.
>> But that didn't happen.
> Have no fear. Watch "Salvation Boulevard" instead.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiYHfciJwE
>
> Greg Kennear plays Carl, a former Deadhead who now
> is a member of a megachurch led by Pastor Dan (Pierce
> Brosnan). All goes well (if you can call a boring,
> brainwashed life "going well") until Pastor Dan
> accidentally shoots the atheist author he was just
> debating, and then decides to blame it all on Carl.
>
> The cult language is Christian, not Neo-Hindu, but
> the rap is the same and the mindset is the same. To
> hear the church members both lay into Carl and
> defend Pastor Dan -- even the ones who know that
> he did the shooting -- is in many ways a Fairfield
> Life deja vu experience...and interestingly it's
> both a comedy *and* an insane thriller. :-) You'd
> probably like it. Cool performances by Jennifer
> Connolly and Marisa Tomei, too.
It hasn't released on DVD in the US yet. A release list shows
"undecided" for all retail and rental channels. I was able to put a
"save" on Netflix though. Funny because it had summer release in the
US. The IMDB message board had threads like "why does Hollywood always
dump on Christians and never Muslims!" Oh boy.
Now for something much closer to FFL try the 1993 British mini-series
"Buddha of Suburbia" with Naveen Andrews ("Lost").
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105963/
What is not mentioned in the synopsis is Naveen's character's father
played by Roshan Seth is an accountant who plays "guru" to gullible
westerners.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Evolution=Barry Criticizes TM=Barry Gets His Butt Kicked=Barry Only Criticizes Movies Now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I was hoping that "Enlightened" might be FFL on TV which > > would make for either a great comedy or an insane thriller. > > But that didn't happen. > > Have no fear. Watch "Salvation Boulevard" instead. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiYHfciJwE > > Greg Kennear plays Carl, a former Deadhead who now > is a member of a megachurch led by Pastor Dan (Pierce > Brosnan). All goes well (if you can call a boring, > brainwashed life "going well") until Pastor Dan > accidentally shoots the atheist author he was just > debating, and then decides to blame it all on Carl. > > The cult language is Christian, not Neo-Hindu, but > the rap is the same and the mindset is the same. To > hear the church members both lay into Carl and > defend Pastor Dan -- even the ones who know that > he did the shooting -- is in many ways a Fairfield > Life deja vu experience...and interestingly it's > both a comedy *and* an insane thriller. :-) You'd > probably like it. Cool performances by Jennifer > Connolly and Marisa Tomei, too. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Hi Robin, You said, "I certainly have had the experience of acting radically differently and experiencing myself and reality radically differently, from one second before I 'slipped into Unity' in September 1976, and one second after this event." I don't know if you read my earlier comment on this event in your life, but I am just not buying it. Not, as many would, challenging your previous experience of Unity (implying enlightenment), but that you have somehow "lost" it. All I can see that you lost is a context that you derived your values from for awhile, but the non-Unity Robin I don't see. The Robin I see is here and present and as available through his writing as I am to myself. Like I said before, there is a dynamism, a liveliness, a reality to your stuff that cannot be manufactured or parroted. So, I'd ask you to list please just three areas in which you no longer have the ability to become One with your environment, and those you interact with, hence your fall from Unity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > An Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula > > Dear Ravi, > > I have been intending to write this third open letter to you for some time > now, but something has balked me. I have entertained some interesting and > seemingly meaningful theories, intuitions about youin the aim of catching at > what you are all aboutbut none of them has made it. And I am asking myself > the question: Why is it taking you so long, Robin, to write back to Ravi, and > to pursue this investigation to its end: Who is Ravi Chivukula and what is he > all about? > > I have decided not to proceed with any fixed idea or specific orientation; I > am just, as it were, going to try to find out where to go with > thisaddressing Ravi Chivukulaas I enter into the act: writing again to Ravi > Chivukula: by my account my 5th analysis. This one better be better than the > first four. > > So, here goes: I think you are in possession of a quite extraordinary gift, > Ravi. What is that gift? a certain spontaneous audacity and unconditioned > perceptiveness which can rock the psyche of anyone not prepared to be > ambushed by 'the truth'. What you say about certain people is not, in my > estimation, the whole truth; not nearly so. But it certainly is *the* truth > that is the key to seeing how they are conducting their lives within a > certain fixed mode which insulates them from reality and keeps them from a > certain kind of self-knowledge. I think, for the most part, they are > unconscious of their defensiveness in the face of your radical ambushes of > their boundaries and their privatized sense of selfhood. But the accuracyif > I may judge by the uncontrollable responsesof your violent and unasked for > apercus is indisputable: there is altogether too much of "The lady doth > protest too much" to believe that you are off in your unorthodox and > unanticipated transgressions. > > When you go at someone in your inimitable way, a person has no means, really, > of refuting you: I notice this, because although you obviously generate > tremendous reaction and retaliation, I never have sensed that any given > individual is actually honestly and innocently experiencing that you are > wrong where you have struck them where they are most vulnerable (vulnerable > here means some susceptibility to self-deception, where they feel they have > to keep reality at bay). > > So, the first thing I need to make clear is that, for all your antics and > drama and outrageousnessand *transgressiveness*you are, after all, from > where you say these things about people, totally quiescent and composed > inside of you: the proverbially eye of the hurricane. Of course people are > compelled (how could they not be?) to diagnose you as pathological, as frail, > as unstableand certainly from what I gather from your past, they have some > justifiable basis to proceed under this assumption;however, when it really > comes down to refuting you, of facing you, of taking you on where you are > coming from, they utterly fail. At least this is the impression I have taken > away from this most recent episode, which led to your ostracism and > opprobrium. There was very much a vigilante mind-set here at FFL in the > attempt to shut you up. Not that you had not violated the first person > ontology of each of your victims; of course you had. That was your intention. > But was that violation a violation of the truth, of the the actual integrity > of that person? I think not, even as I would never consider doing what you > did; and I wonder in your inspiration to do it what purpose it fulfilled. > After all, merely telling the truth about someone, what good can that do > unless there is some remedial principle that is offered at the same time? > > But I suppose that is not in your 'dharma' [:-)]. I could not, however, fail > to notice the gracious and sincere way in which you apologi
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > I was hoping that "Enlightened" might be FFL on TV which > would make for either a great comedy or an insane thriller. > But that didn't happen. Have no fear. Watch "Salvation Boulevard" instead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiYHfciJwE Greg Kennear plays Carl, a former Deadhead who now is a member of a megachurch led by Pastor Dan (Pierce Brosnan). All goes well (if you can call a boring, brainwashed life "going well") until Pastor Dan accidentally shoots the atheist author he was just debating, and then decides to blame it all on Carl. The cult language is Christian, not Neo-Hindu, but the rap is the same and the mindset is the same. To hear the church members both lay into Carl and defend Pastor Dan -- even the ones who know that he did the shooting -- is in many ways a Fairfield Life deja vu experience...and interestingly it's both a comedy *and* an insane thriller. :-) You'd probably like it. Cool performances by Jennifer Connolly and Marisa Tomei, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image
The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. How > can that be? > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > you have the same propensity for fence sitting an issue and abstractly > equivocating everything with everything that nm did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUfy_YBps
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cassandra Wilson - I can't stand the rain
You too! - I just saw my daughter for lunch today, and its cookie baking with the family tomorrow - goes well with a frosty bottle o' bubbly!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Yeah, it is a totally appropo video. Â Last year I thought it would never > stop raining. Â Today, its cold and sunny (emphasis on sunny)...amazing. > Â The hiking/backpacking here is great, but there is always the weather. > Â LOL on "left after three days" - we've packed out in the pouring rain and > amidst legions of mosquitos numbers of times. Â Still great country though. > Â I'm off to finish the holiday prep. Â Have a good one. > > > > > > > From: whynotnow7 > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:18 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cassandra Wilson - I can't stand the rain > > > > > >Â > >The opening scene is very Pacific Northwest. I lived in Oregon in my early > >twenties. Beautiful - climbed Mt. Hood once with three friends - not to the > >top, but up high enough (10K') that when I looked out over the mountain > >range, it was all snow and peaks as far as the eye could see. > > > >Also camped out near the Three Sisters once, south of Mt. Hood. Mid-July at > >6,000 feet and it began snowing! Was planning to stay a month - left after > >three days. I did love the three months of bright blue sky summer in the > >Willamette Valley. Last time I was in the PNW, I taught tech in Bellevue, WA > >in the early 90's, with Mt. Ranier in-your-face. > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > >> > >> Not very festive, but tomorrow's the turning point. Â She's got a unique > >> voice. > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BU6o0D5AA&feature=related > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 12/22/2011 12:10 PM, maskedzebra wrote: > > An Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula > > > > Dear Ravi, > > > > I have been intending to write this third open letter to you for some time > > now, but something has balked me. I have entertained some interesting and > > seemingly meaningful theories, intuitions about youin the aim of catching > > at what you are all aboutbut none of them has made it. > > Try "Ravi is Indian" and that should suffice. If I'm not mistaken where > you are currently has quite an Indian community. Go get acquainted with > them and then you'll understand. ;-) > And then go one step further and say: 'Ravi is from Andhra' where babies are fed already with pure chilli milk, and they will know chilli just to be a vegetable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaisnava baloney..so says you LOL!
Also of interest in this context: http://www.kkswami.com/texts/vows/reference/deviant-vaisnava-sects.php Kirtan Vaishnava Janato Translation One who is a vaishnav Knows the pain of others Does good to others, esp. to those ones who are in misery Does not let pride enter his mind A Vaishnav, Tolerates and praises the the entire world Does not say bad things about anyone Keeps his/her words, actions and thoughts pure O Vaishnav, your mother is blessed (dhanya-dhanya) A Vaishnav sees everything equally, rejects greed and avarice Considers some one else's wife/daughter as his mother The toungue may get tired, but will never speak lies Does not even touch someone else's property A Vaishnav does not succumb to worldly attachments Who has devoted himself to stauch detachment to worldly pleasures Who has been edicted to the elixir coming by the name of Ram For whom all the religious sites are in the mind Who has no greed and deciet Who has renounced lust of all types and anger The poet Narsi will like to see such a person By who's virtue, the entire family gets salvation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIvCtJEispY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus" wrote: > > > > > > > The nutcase Steve Perino is back... > > > > > > coldbluiceman: > > > So what has your statement done to refute the > > > undiluted facts of history? > > > > > > The following report is a preliminary social > > > analysis of the > > > so-called 'rasavada', a minor deviant tantric > > > sect... > > > Ras Report Part 2: > > The so-called 'ras-lila' is a discredited deviant > cult, where the proponents wear the red tilaka, > and the neck beads, and the special shawl, and > they obstain from the flesh foods. > > But, the prakriti-sahajiyas are counted out of > the main line of Sri Chaitanya, not because of > their mundane titilations, but because of a subtle > basic contamination in their sadhana. Owing to > this topsy-turvey psychic confabulation, the > rasavadis imagine themselves more learned in > the scriptures than the original Vedic Rishis > themselves! > > Tantra - Shiva-Shakti Polarity Symbolism > > The rasavadis are devotees of Sri Laksmi, but > they impose upon Her the role of Radha, the > free enjoyer, the married village cow-woman of > Barsana, and they style Sri Krishna of Braj as > the Lord Himself; a dark lusty village youth, > with themselves as the village gopi girls, > dancing the rasa-dance under the autumn moon. > > Some rasavadi sahjiya miscreants even claim > that Sri Krishna's second wife, out of 16,000, > (Visnupriya Devi) is actually the Goddess of > Fortune Herself, who descends into existence > as a formation-combination of male and female > principles, purusha and prakriti. > > The rasiks believe that they can harmonize > these two within themselves through 'divine-love' > generation in the bodily union of man and woman > through tantric yoga, which is identified as > the mahabhava of Sri Shiva-Shakti. > > The Gopi Cult of Radharasvahari > > Monks and nuns who imitate the confidential > girlfriends of Srimati Radharani and Her > pastimes, by dressing up as sari-bekhis, > i.e., a man in womens clothing, who imagines > himself to be the enjoyed of Sri Krishna. In > the case of females of the rasavadi cult, since > they are already dressed in saris, apparently, > they must be serving the guru in other diverse > and sundry ways! >
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Barry, For you to fully absorb this Niagara (or possibly Viagra) of truth and illumination you must take a page out of Emily's book and read it out loud. I have no doubt this will give you the strongest of urges to strip naked and run between the Christmas shoppers of Amsterdam, while shouting it out loud; I say: "Don't fight this urge"---go for it, and we can only hope you're been working out! Merry Christmas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMpTlGVjbM&feature=related From: maskedzebra To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:10:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula An Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula Dear Ravi, I have been intending to write this third open letter to you for some time now, but something has balked me. I have entertained some interesting and seemingly meaningful theories, intuitions about you—in the aim of catching at what you are all about—but none of them has made it. And I am asking myself the question: Why is it taking you so long, Robin, to write back to Ravi, and to pursue this investigation to its end: Who is Ravi Chivukula and what is he all about? I have decided not to proceed with any fixed idea or specific orientation; I am just, as it were, going to try to find out where to go with this—addressing Ravi Chivukula—as I enter into the act: writing again to Ravi Chivukula: by my account my 5th analysis. This one better be better than the first four. So, here goes: I think you are in possession of a quite extraordinary gift, Ravi. What is that gift? a certain spontaneous audacity and unconditioned perceptiveness which can rock the psyche of anyone not prepared to be ambushed by 'the truth'. What you say about certain people is not, in my estimation, the whole truth; not nearly so. But it certainly is *the* truth that is the key to seeing how they are conducting their lives within a certain fixed mode which insulates them from reality and keeps them from a certain kind of self-knowledge. I think, for the most part, they are unconscious of their defensiveness in the face of your radical ambushes of their boundaries and their privatized sense of selfhood. But the accuracy—if I may judge by the uncontrollable responses—of your violent and unasked for apercus is indisputable: there is altogether too much of "The lady doth protest too much" to believe that you are off in your unorthodox and unanticipated transgressions. When you go at someone in your inimitable way, a person has no means, really, of refuting you: I notice this, because although you obviously generate tremendous reaction and retaliation, I never have sensed that any given individual is actually honestly and innocently experiencing that you are wrong where you have struck them where they are most vulnerable (vulnerable here means some susceptibility to self-deception, where they feel they have to keep reality at bay). So, the first thing I need to make clear is that, for all your antics and drama and outrageousness—and *transgressiveness*—you are, after all, from where you say these things about people, totally quiescent and composed inside of you: the proverbially eye of the hurricane. Of course people are compelled (how could they not be?) to diagnose you as pathological, as frail, as unstable—and certainly from what I gather from your past, they have some justifiable basis to proceed under this assumption;—however, when it really comes down to refuting you, of facing you, of taking you on where you are coming from, they utterly fail. At least this is the impression I have taken away from this most recent episode, which led to your ostracism and opprobrium. There was very much a vigilante mind-set here at FFL in the attempt to shut you up. Not that you had not violated the first person ontology of each of your victims; of course you had. That was your intention. But was that violation a violation of the truth, of the the actual integrity of that person? I think not, even as I would never consider doing what you did; and I wonder in your inspiration to do it what purpose it fulfilled. After all, merely telling the truth about someone, what good can that do unless there is some remedial principle that is offered at the same time? But I suppose that is not in your 'dharma' [:-)]. I could not, however, fail to notice the gracious and sincere way in which you apologized to certain persons whom you had sabotaged: and the thing is you *meant* it. But this was not in the end an apology based upon contradicting what you had said to these various persons; it was a sensitivity to how you had hurt them, offended them, caused them grief. And the very fact that you would apologize, it seems to me, is even more evidence of the balance of your personality—appearances to the contrary. To have said the things you said to these people—and meant them; or rather to be ins
[FairfieldLife] Sex After Singlarity?
Kurzweil explains, as shown below: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=gAuF0fRSgxA
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula
On 12/22/2011 12:10 PM, maskedzebra wrote: > An Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula > > Dear Ravi, > > I have been intending to write this third open letter to you for some time > now, but something has balked me. I have entertained some interesting and > seemingly meaningful theories, intuitions about you—in the aim of catching at > what you are all about—but none of them has made it. Try "Ravi is Indian" and that should suffice. If I'm not mistaken where you are currently has quite an Indian community. Go get acquainted with them and then you'll understand. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mysterious Glow Before Kim's Death
On 12/22/2011 12:13 PM, John wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 12/22/2011 10:17 AM, John wrote: >>> We can assume this one is communist progaganda a la North Korean style. >>> >>> http://news.yahoo.com/nkorea-cites-mysterious-glow-just-kim-death-035745165.html >> The Clinton administration played to Kim's fantasy of being a movie >> director and thawed relations between North Korea and the US. Then Bush >> came in and screwed it all up. >> > It doesn't matter now for Kim. Fate has taken him out of the world scene. > I'm not sure if his son can continue to hold on to power. There's no doubt, > there will be much political intrigue that will follow in that country. As always foreign corporate powers will attempt under the guise of liberating North Korea's people to destabilize the country to get at it's natural resources. The show should begin soon.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mysterious Glow Before Kim's Death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 12/22/2011 10:17 AM, John wrote: > > We can assume this one is communist progaganda a la North Korean style. > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/nkorea-cites-mysterious-glow-just-kim-death-035745165.html > > The Clinton administration played to Kim's fantasy of being a movie > director and thawed relations between North Korea and the US. Then Bush > came in and screwed it all up. > It doesn't matter now for Kim. Fate has taken him out of the world scene. I'm not sure if his son can continue to hold on to power. There's no doubt, there will be much political intrigue that will follow in that country.
[FairfieldLife] A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula
An Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula Dear Ravi, I have been intending to write this third open letter to you for some time now, but something has balked me. I have entertained some interesting and seemingly meaningful theories, intuitions about youin the aim of catching at what you are all aboutbut none of them has made it. And I am asking myself the question: Why is it taking you so long, Robin, to write back to Ravi, and to pursue this investigation to its end: Who is Ravi Chivukula and what is he all about? I have decided not to proceed with any fixed idea or specific orientation; I am just, as it were, going to try to find out where to go with thisaddressing Ravi Chivukulaas I enter into the act: writing again to Ravi Chivukula: by my account my 5th analysis. This one better be better than the first four. So, here goes: I think you are in possession of a quite extraordinary gift, Ravi. What is that gift? a certain spontaneous audacity and unconditioned perceptiveness which can rock the psyche of anyone not prepared to be ambushed by 'the truth'. What you say about certain people is not, in my estimation, the whole truth; not nearly so. But it certainly is *the* truth that is the key to seeing how they are conducting their lives within a certain fixed mode which insulates them from reality and keeps them from a certain kind of self-knowledge. I think, for the most part, they are unconscious of their defensiveness in the face of your radical ambushes of their boundaries and their privatized sense of selfhood. But the accuracyif I may judge by the uncontrollable responsesof your violent and unasked for apercus is indisputable: there is altogether too much of "The lady doth protest too much" to believe that you are off in your unorthodox and unanticipated transgressions. When you go at someone in your inimitable way, a person has no means, really, of refuting you: I notice this, because although you obviously generate tremendous reaction and retaliation, I never have sensed that any given individual is actually honestly and innocently experiencing that you are wrong where you have struck them where they are most vulnerable (vulnerable here means some susceptibility to self-deception, where they feel they have to keep reality at bay). So, the first thing I need to make clear is that, for all your antics and drama and outrageousnessand *transgressiveness*you are, after all, from where you say these things about people, totally quiescent and composed inside of you: the proverbially eye of the hurricane. Of course people are compelled (how could they not be?) to diagnose you as pathological, as frail, as unstableand certainly from what I gather from your past, they have some justifiable basis to proceed under this assumption;however, when it really comes down to refuting you, of facing you, of taking you on where you are coming from, they utterly fail. At least this is the impression I have taken away from this most recent episode, which led to your ostracism and opprobrium. There was very much a vigilante mind-set here at FFL in the attempt to shut you up. Not that you had not violated the first person ontology of each of your victims; of course you had. That was your intention. But was that violation a violation of the truth, of the the actual integrity of that person? I think not, even as I would never consider doing what you did; and I wonder in your inspiration to do it what purpose it fulfilled. After all, merely telling the truth about someone, what good can that do unless there is some remedial principle that is offered at the same time? But I suppose that is not in your 'dharma' [:-)]. I could not, however, fail to notice the gracious and sincere way in which you apologized to certain persons whom you had sabotaged: and the thing is you *meant* it. But this was not in the end an apology based upon contradicting what you had said to these various persons; it was a sensitivity to how you had hurt them, offended them, caused them grief. And the very fact that you would apologize, it seems to me, is even more evidence of the balance of your personalityappearances to the contrary. To have said the things you said to these peopleand meant them; or rather to be inspired somehow to say what you said; and then to subvert yourself by bending to their own need to have you in a sense implicitly at least take back what you said; this is a very sophisticated psychological act. And you pulled if off it seems. But I know that where inside your experience you were moved to render these various persons almost incapacitated (and in some cases almost apoplectic)at least in an unconscious and deeper senserepresented a higher truth for you than where inside you you were moved to apologize for what you did. There is the factor too (spelled out on that Second Open Letter To Ravi Chivukula) of the context within which you transgressed: the RMT. No o
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mysterious Glow Before Kim's Death
On 12/22/2011 10:17 AM, John wrote: > We can assume this one is communist progaganda a la North Korean style. > > http://news.yahoo.com/nkorea-cites-mysterious-glow-just-kim-death-035745165.html The Clinton administration played to Kim's fantasy of being a movie director and thawed relations between North Korea and the US. Then Bush came in and screwed it all up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
The actors and crew said they all learned a lot from the French production crew. Zoe got weapons training from the trainer of the Los Angeles SWAT team. I had no qualm overall with the production values just the writing and direction. It sorta reminded me of a 1990s type thriller though it would have been better and more popular shot 1970s style. They seemed to be caught between one of these super woman movies and a revenge movie. I would have liked to see it more realistic like the latter. My favorite of these are Asian films which are far more nuanced and intelligent. Most recently watched "The Chaser" which fits into that genre. On 12/22/2011 10:21 AM, emilymae.reyn wrote: > Yep...I'm with you on the rating of this. I saw it in the theatre so didn't > even get the "making of" part. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 12/20/2011 10:13 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: >>> I saw Columbiana...it might be O.K. as a "wind down" movie where you don't >>> have to think too much, but except for watching Zoe Saldana in action...the >>> plot, which shows promise at the beginning, doesn't deliver and requires >>> great leaps of faith, IMO. >> I call it "one for the money". The "making of" was more interesting >> than the movie. Too much exposition or putting up signs like "now this >> is happening." Maybe the French can't make movies for Americans if that >> indeed *was* the intended audience. I wished there was a commentary to >> explain what the hell she swallowed at the beginning because there were >> no memory cards back early 1990s. Talk about requiring great leaps of >> faith. One star or maybe two because of everything except direction and >> story (Luc Besson can do better). >> > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cassandra Wilson - I can't stand the rain
Yeah, it is a totally appropo video. Last year I thought it would never stop raining. Today, its cold and sunny (emphasis on sunny)...amazing. The hiking/backpacking here is great, but there is always the weather. LOL on "left after three days" - we've packed out in the pouring rain and amidst legions of mosquitos numbers of times. Still great country though. I'm off to finish the holiday prep. Have a good one. > > From: whynotnow7 >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:18 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cassandra Wilson - I can't stand the rain > > > >The opening scene is very Pacific Northwest. I lived in Oregon in my early >twenties. Beautiful - climbed Mt. Hood once with three friends - not to the >top, but up high enough (10K') that when I looked out over the mountain range, >it was all snow and peaks as far as the eye could see. > >Also camped out near the Three Sisters once, south of Mt. Hood. Mid-July at >6,000 feet and it began snowing! Was planning to stay a month - left after >three days. I did love the three months of bright blue sky summer in the >Willamette Valley. Last time I was in the PNW, I taught tech in Bellevue, WA >in the early 90's, with Mt. Ranier in-your-face. > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: >> >> Not very festive, but tomorrow's the turning point. She's got a unique >> voice. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BU6o0D5AA&feature=related >> > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Yep...I'm with you on the rating of this. I saw it in the theatre so didn't even get the "making of" part. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 12/20/2011 10:13 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: > > I saw Columbiana...it might be O.K. as a "wind down" movie where you don't > > have to think too much, but except for watching Zoe Saldana in action...the > > plot, which shows promise at the beginning, doesn't deliver and requires > > great leaps of faith, IMO. > > I call it "one for the money". The "making of" was more interesting > than the movie. Too much exposition or putting up signs like "now this > is happening." Maybe the French can't make movies for Americans if that > indeed *was* the intended audience. I wished there was a commentary to > explain what the hell she swallowed at the beginning because there were > no memory cards back early 1990s. Talk about requiring great leaps of > faith. One star or maybe two because of everything except direction and > story (Luc Besson can do better). >
[FairfieldLife] Mysterious Glow Before Kim's Death
We can assume this one is communist progaganda a la North Korean style. http://news.yahoo.com/nkorea-cites-mysterious-glow-just-kim-death-035745165.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
Another one that missed my inbox... Very nice...sheesheeshee --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Sh sh sHe wishes to leave a Ravi tune. > The words will have to suffice for the chords. > > How'eth is seventhray booed off the stage, if patchouli was the preferred at > the flea market? > Batman's buddy? Oiest Vey! Ever a new day? > Ho hum goes the breath of the seekers, ho hum goes of other ones, > on the day of Ravi's return. > > (chorus)On the day of Ravi's return. > > Black jacks have we played the last note? > How can whips and garter fray? > Is the last soon to be hours before Surya rise in a land of western spiritual > faraway, a burst of fizzle and commotion that may not be there? > We will see how Ravi climbs. > (chorus)We will see how Ravi climbs. > > Sh sh SH leaves a message, for Emily's request, > means a lot to Sh sh SH who is sitting right here. > (chorus) Sheee who is sitting right here. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > Don't forget Obba...he's in the running for spontaneous poetry these days :) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: seventhray1 > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:30 PM > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting > > > > > > > > >Â > > >for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem. (This is > > >business, so reply if you'll do this) Emily, maybe you can get some nice > > >scented candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent. Judy, maybe you > > >can find some nice decorations. Bob how bout a witty little skit. > > > > > >I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You Bitches", > > >or if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any rate it's > > >only a few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his presents, > > >(intended) again. > > > > > >Love, Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Shroud of Turin Image
Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet light. How can that be? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry (Emily)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > turquoiseb > > > > > > And it's been as magical an experience for me walking around > > town as this video is. It's taught me that even remembering > > to smile at a stranger is an act of kindness. > > > ***BP: Barry, I'm wondering, if everyone, as they were walking around town, > had to remind themselves to smile, would that be the same, as everyone, > walking around town---pretending to see, in a world where everyone is > blind? > > > turquoiseb > > > > >...and the different effects it has on people. I found > >it earlier today and, just as an experiment, posted it > >widely on forums I participate in. > > >The *variance* of reactions interest me. On forums that > >I would class as "Hindu-based," there was a lot of push- > >back, even anger. On Buddhist forums, more "Wow. They > >really got it." > > > ***BP: I want to make sure I have this right; please correct if I'm wrong, > you're saying: "I have undertaken a study, and confirmed that Buddhists smile > more than Hindus", how am I doing so far? Would that include all Buddhists > and Hindus, for example, are you saying the Japanese smile more than people > from India? If that's the case, I'm not sure I can go along with this one, I > actually have the impression that Indians smile more than the Japanese, > although I'm not sure about Filipino's, but that might be because they're > mostly Catholic, except for the ones that are Muslim, who, if memory serves, > smile way too much for people with so many challenges. Then of course there > are the Indonesian Hindu's from Bali, they definitely smile more than the > Japanese; in fact, I would say, even the Canadians smile more than the > Japanese, but I'm not sure how many Hindu's live in Canada, maybe MZ can help > us with that one. In fact, the Dutch are not exactly what you > would call *smilers*, but, on the other hand, the Italians smile with hardly > any provocation, I wonder if they're just practicing or they actually find > something funny about the rest of us, hard to tell really. Come to think of > it, in my travels there were a couple of things that struck me about smilers. > First, I hope I'm not stereo typing here, but it seems there is a > relationship between wealth and smiling, in fact---its the strangest > thing---its been my experience, that the poorer a nationality, the more they > seem to smile, and the richer a nationality is the more they seem to stop > practicing their smile. Which brings up a great question (you've noticed you > have this effect on me). If all this is true, does this mean that rich people > are more sincere than poor people? The second thing I've noticed in > underdeveloped countries is that there are always rich people, but never any > middle class; so I'm wondering if we go ahead and help Wall Street destroy > the middle class will we be able to get Americans and Europeans smiling > again? What would you think if we modified your statement slightly, without > compromising the empirical nature of your findings, of course. Can we say: > "The *variance* of reactions interest me. I found Hindu's do not smile as > much as Buddhists, except for the Japanese when they visit Bangalore and the > Indian when they visit Osaka." What do you think; I'm here for you bro. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=351l62Yx0oI&feature=related > > > > From: Emily Reyn > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:29:56 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry (Bob) > > > EMILY: Bob...you are truly living up to the affectionate title of > HotBob...have you explored the idea that you might be a tiny bit psychic - > maybe its all that past and on-going meditation in your house that's created > such uber-perception on your part. > > > ***BP: I'm constantly telling the wife I'm psychic; cheeky sod that she is, > she asked me: "why doesn't it work for things that can at least be measured, > like when I telepathically asked you to shut up and not embarrass me at the > office Christmas party last night when you were trying to convince my > business associates that Leon Trotsky was more pro business than Stalin would > have had us believe; you don't need to be psychic to know that when their > eyes glass over, it is not a signal for you to "dig deeper." **ER2: This is just beyond funny. "Dig deeper" - ROTFLMAO and its only 9:15 AM. By the way, this is the first attempt to reply from the group site. I am supposed to get all the posts sent to my email but have realized that of late, I'm only getting about 80% of them. Hope its just a holiday thing on the part of Yahoo. This one didn't come through, for example. > > > EMILY: I went for a long swim this afternoon to decompress and cannot stop > laughing again - this whole post of yours was fully entertaining and I am > le
[FairfieldLife] Indefinite Military Detention of Americans
"At some point a sideshow to a story becomes so painfully obvious that it becomes the story, and this now should be: Why is the media taking such pains to knowingly and falsely claim that the new power of the military to detain and imprison people without charge or trial, for life, does not include US citizens? We know what happened. The Bill of Rights has been overturned." By violating their Oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution, Congress has made itself a domestic enemy of the state. List of treasonous Senate and House members who have declared war on the American people: http://www.truth-out.org/why-media-lying-about-new-ndaa-power-indefinite-military-detention-americans/1324397022 The Treasonous 383 SENATE: YEAs ---86 Akaka (D-HI) Alexander (R-TN) Ayotte (R-NH) Barrasso (R-WY) Baucus (D-MT) Begich (D-AK) Bennet (D-CO) Bingaman (D-NM) Blumenthal (D-CT) Blunt (R-MO) Boozman (R-AR) Boxer (D-CA) Brown (D-OH) Brown (R-MA) Burr (R-NC) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Chambliss (R-GA) Coats (R-IN) Cochran (R-MS) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Coons (D-DE) Corker (R-TN) Cornyn (R-TX) Enzi (R-WY) Feinstein (D-CA) Gillibrand (D-NY) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Hagan (D-NC) Hatch (R-UT) Heller (R-NV) Hoeven (R-ND) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Inouye (D-HI) Isakson (R-GA) Johanns (R-NE) Johnson (D-SD) Johnson (R-WI) Kerry (D-MA) Kirk (R-IL) Klobuchar (D-MN) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (ID-CT) Lugar (R-IN) Manchin (D-WV) McCain (R-AZ) McCaskill (D-MO) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Portman (R-OH) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Rubio (R-FL) Schumer (D-NY) Sessions (R-AL) Shaheen (D-NH) Shelby (R-AL) Snowe (R-ME) Stabenow (D-MI) Tester (D-MT) Thune (R-SD) Toomey (R-PA) Udall (D-CO) Udall (D-NM) Vitter (R-LA) Warner (D-VA) Webb (D-VA) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wicker (R-MS) Moran (R-KS) HOUSE: AYES 283 -- Ackerman Adams Aderholt Akin Alexander Altmire Amodei Andrews Austria Baca Bachus Barletta Barrow Bartlett Barton (TX) Bass (NH) Benishek Berg Berkley Berman Biggert Bilbray Bilirakis Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Bishop (UT) Black Blackburn Bonner Bono Mack Boren Boswell Boustany Brady (PA) Brady (TX) Brooks Broun (GA) Brown (FL) Buchanan Buerkle Butterfield Calvert Camp Canseco Cantor Capito Capps Cardoza Carnahan Carney Carter Cassidy Castor (FL) Chabot Chandler Cicilline Cole Conaway Connolly (VA) Cooper Costa Courtney Cravaack Crawford Crenshaw Critz Crowley Cuellar Culberson Davis (CA) Davis (KY) Denham Dent Deutch Dicks Dingell Doggett Dold Donnelly (IN) Dreier Duffy Ellmers Emerson Engel Farenthold Fincher Fitzpatrick Fleischmann Fleming Flores Fortenberry Foxx Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallegly Garamendi Gardner Gerlach Gibbs Gibson Gingrey (GA) Gohmert Gonzalez Granger Graves (MO) Green, Al Green, Gene Griffin (AR) Grimm Guinta Guthrie Hall Hanabusa Hanna Harper Hartzler Hastings (WA) Hayworth Heck Hensarling Herger Herrera Beutler Higgins Himes Hirono Hochul Holden Hoyer Hultgren Hunter Inslee Israel Issa Jackson Lee (TX) Jenkins Johnson (OH) Johnson, Sam Jordan Keating Kelly Kildee Kind King (IA) King (NY) Kingston Kinzinger (IL) Kissell Kline Lamborn Lance Landry Langevin Lankford Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Latham Latta Levin Lewis (CA) Lipinski LoBiondo Loebsack Long Lowey Lucas Luetkemeyer Lungren, Daniel E. Manzullo Marchant Marino Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCarthy (NY) McCaul McCotter McHenry McIntyre McKeon McKinley McMorris Rodgers McNerney Meehan Mica Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Miller, Gary Murphy (PA) Neugebauer Noem Nugent Nunes Nunnelee Olson Owens Palazzo Pascrell Pastor (AZ) Paulsen Pearce Pelosi Perlmutter Peterson Petri Platts Poe (TX) Pompeo Price (GA) Quayle Rahall Reed Rehberg Reichert Renacci Reyes Richardson Rigell Rivera Roby Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rooney Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Ross (AR) Ross (FL) Rothman (NJ) Runyan Ruppersberger Ryan (WI) Sánchez, Linda T. Scalise Schiff Schilling Schmidt Schock Schrader Schwartz Scott (SC) Scott, Austin Scott, David Sensenbrenner Sessions Sewell Sherman Shimkus Shuler Shuster Sires Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Southerland Stearns Stivers Sullivan Sutton Terry Thompson (PA) Thornberry Tiberi Tsongas Turner (NY) Turner (OH) Upton Visclosky Walden Walz (MN) Wasserman Schultz Waxman Webster West Westmoreland Whitfield Wilson (FL) Wilson (SC) Wittman Wolf Womack Yoder Young (AK) Young (IN) Abstain: Bachmann Coble Diaz-Balart Filner Giffords Gutierrez Johnson, E. B. LaTourette Lynch Myrick Paul Pitts Sanchez, Loretta Young (FL)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ellen's Post Office Spoof
On 12/21/2011 09:57 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: > OK. The cards are in the mail tomorrow. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzQ7i3_WDY&feature=youtu.be So ridiculous all because Congress made them fund benefits for mail carriers that haven't even been born yet. "Catch me if you can service" is about what we have around here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
On 12/20/2011 10:13 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: > I saw Columbiana...it might be O.K. as a "wind down" movie where you don't > have to think too much, but except for watching Zoe Saldana in action...the > plot, which shows promise at the beginning, doesn't deliver and requires > great leaps of faith, IMO. I call it "one for the money". The "making of" was more interesting than the movie. Too much exposition or putting up signs like "now this is happening." Maybe the French can't make movies for Americans if that indeed *was* the intended audience. I wished there was a commentary to explain what the hell she swallowed at the beginning because there were no memory cards back early 1990s. Talk about requiring great leaps of faith. One star or maybe two because of everything except direction and story (Luc Besson can do better).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cassandra Wilson - I can't stand the rain
The opening scene is very Pacific Northwest. I lived in Oregon in my early twenties. Beautiful - climbed Mt. Hood once with three friends - not to the top, but up high enough (10K') that when I looked out over the mountain range, it was all snow and peaks as far as the eye could see. Also camped out near the Three Sisters once, south of Mt. Hood. Mid-July at 6,000 feet and it began snowing! Was planning to stay a month - left after three days. I did love the three months of bright blue sky summer in the Willamette Valley. Last time I was in the PNW, I taught tech in Bellevue, WA in the early 90's, with Mt. Ranier in-your-face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Not very festive, but tomorrow's the turning point. She's got a unique voice. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BU6o0D5AA&feature=related >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > I think Judy you have still one post left. Or is this a new tactic, > you pretend you posted out, and the come back suddenly, when nobody > expects, zhong! It appears that the post count is off by one, because a manual count does put her at 50. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: > > > > Fairfield Life Post Counter > > === > > Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 17 00:00:00 2011 > > End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 24 00:00:00 2011 > > 558 messages as of (UTC) Wed Dec 21 23:08:05 2011 > > > > 49 authfriend >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
This is quite funny. Nice irony applied to Vag who who makes himself so ponderous. This is one place where Vag and RC/MZ don't mirror but reverse. But I still contend this must be Vag's original envelopment in this life ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: > > > > > Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's all I dare say. > > This is so beautiful, Vaj Ji, how dare I say, you really went down to the essence of the question, and from the bottom of your heart, you revealed the truth of your being, you passed the final test, of showing the truth of your human embodiment, in a haiku like brevity, Vaj Ji, and I, your brother in spirit, Vaj Ji Ji, am lucky to have understood, I doubt FFL is ready yet for such a revelation, but we both know, in unique and unheard of synchronisity, the truth of your revelation. > > A Jewish girl, Vaj Ji, you are not talking about some superficial girl here, that she is Jewish is highly significant, since, everyone should know that Jews stand for Kabbalah, famed for it's mystic of numbers, as the question was all about numbers, and her beauty was in the intelligence, it was not outside for anyone to see, only for those who are ready for the truth, like you - and me of course. Thus you have confirmed, that you are REAL, you are really, truthfully real, you are there, that what the question was all about. > > We know now, that we can rely on your account in the full sense, only we have to be able to read it with our own inner being. I write this from my own inner being, and I know, dear Vaj Ji, that you also know this, and I am thus, with all our differnces, in total harmony with your atheist soul. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Sh sh sHe wishes to leave a Ravi tune. > > The words will have to suffice for the chords. > > Is it to the tune of 'drunken sailor'? > The drunken Scotsman http://youtu.be/MZ35SOU9HTM > > > > > From: seventhray1 > > > > >I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You Bitches", > > > >or if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any rate it's > > > >only a few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his presents, > > > >(intended) again. > > I wonder if he's put already put up a video on youtube, where he will address > us with brutal nakedness. Anyone knows how we can search for non-public > videos? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
I don't get off on eastern spiritual superlatives, sorry. In any case, you have the same propensity for fence sitting an issue and abstractly equivocating everything with everything that nm did. He also used to stick up for Vajihad. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > A perfect name for a faux Buddhist, Vajihad. Yours oughta be New Morning. > > Whatcha think? > > > I already gave you my answer, but if you want to stick to that, I don't care > if you call me new morning or new mourning, Judy seems to think I was > bluescout, maybe they were the same, maybe not, I am open to be anybody. ;-) > But don't forget the Ji. You can also call me Ji Ji, or Ji Ji 108, that would > be appropriate, I think. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > A perfect name for a faux Buddhist, Vajihad. Yours oughta be New Morning. > Whatcha think? > I already gave you my answer, but if you want to stick to that, I don't care if you call me new morning or new mourning, Judy seems to think I was bluescout, maybe they were the same, maybe not, I am open to be anybody. ;-) But don't forget the Ji. You can also call me Ji Ji, or Ji Ji 108, that would be appropriate, I think.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yes video
Good for you! I worked as a senior manager for years in tech companies, and am now out of management and contracting for the government. A lot of rules and regs, but almost a complete absence of BS - it is wonderful and creative, and I enjoy developing and meeting objectives that make sense. All the best on your new life! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > The video is perfect for me. Â I've never seen it either. Â I'm coming up on > my one year anniversary of leaving corporate - it was soo perfect and > such a perfect song to accompany. Â Yes, I know cassettes. Â Bob keeps > posting songs I have on cassette from my life prior to my life. > > > > > > > From: whynotnow7 > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:06 PM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes video > > > > > >Â > >Thanks for finding the video to one of my past favorites! I had this on > >cassette (remember those?), and the earlier Yes LPs - loved the artwork. The > >video is not what I expected after all these years, but then again I didn't > >write the song. > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > >> > >> I found the perfect video..the end of the corporate experience...sorry, > >> it's so perfect, I have to post it. Â My PTSD therapy starts in January. > >> Â There is hope at the very very end. > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9goxeGdxi8&feature=related > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
The name suits him really well, since he has expressed his dislike for Muslims. A perfect name for a faux Buddhist, Vajihad. Yours oughta be New Morning. Whatcha think? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > The deal is, Vajihad, > > I'll have to ask Judy, if her invention of Vajihad was inspired by my use of > 'Love Jihad'? I will now refer to Vaj as Vaji or better Vaj Ji. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
Ravi is not coming back. Settle down please. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > I'm sorry Jim. A composition. A musical composition would certainly be > in order. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" > wrote: > > > > for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem. (This is > business, so reply if you'll do this) Emily, maybe you can get some nice > scented candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent. Judy, maybe you > can find some nice decorations. Bob how bout a witty little skit. > > > > I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You > Bitches", or if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any > rate it's only a few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his > presents, (intended) again. > > > > Love, Ray > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
An example of being Barry'd Alive. All I can say dude, is that the TM critics ain't having much fun these days, are they? LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > The deal is, Vajihad, > > > > I'll have to ask Judy, if her invention of Vajihad was > > inspired by my use of 'Love Jihad'? I will now refer > > to Vaj as Vaji or better Vaj Ji. > > I think it has to do with the tendency to interpret > any criticism of TM or TMers and the weirdass things > they believe to be not only true but Truth as some > kind of ill-intentioned jihad. > > Some can hear criticism of a belief system and under- > stand it to be what it is, a criticism of a belief > system. Others feel the need to take it personally, > as if it were an attack on them. I've never really > understood the phenomenon myself, so I can't explain > it to you. I'm only reporting on how things seem to > me. > > From my point of view, if there is a jihad going on > on FFL, it has to do with TMers attempting to demonize > anyone who challenges their sophomoric belief system. > Denizens of FFL have gotten so used to this that they > actually think it's normal. My feeling is that this > is because they don't get out much, and are so used > to talking only within "echo chambers" in which every- > one shares their beliefs that they don't know how to > act when they encounter different ones. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Oh just shut up and go away, you slug. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > Such a fascination with excrement, Vajihad. You oughta integrate that base > > chaktra, otherwise you just sound like a shit head. > > > > Another of the aphorisms of Baba Jim Flanegin, the self-proclaimed > Enlightened guy. > > They fall like snowflakes from his coprophagous mouth. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > Indeed there are some posts here, that one can only endure with > a sense of irony, don't you think? Either that, or with the help of a powerful antiemetic. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Let me guess...the new game afoot here is to try to mimic MZ's style of writing, right? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. > > That's all I dare say. > > This is so beautiful, Vaj Ji, how dare I say, you really went down to the > essence of the question, and from the bottom of your heart, you revealed the > truth of your being, you passed the final test, of showing the truth of your > human embodiment, in a haiku like brevity, Vaj Ji, and I, your brother in > spirit, Vaj Ji Ji, am lucky to have understood, I doubt FFL is ready yet for > such a revelation, but we both know, in unique and unheard of synchronisity, > the truth of your revelation. > > A Jewish girl, Vaj Ji, you are not talking about some superficial girl here, > that she is Jewish is highly significant, since, everyone should know that > Jews stand for Kabbalah, famed for it's mystic of numbers, as the question > was all about numbers, and her beauty was in the intelligence, it was not > outside for anyone to see, only for those who are ready for the truth, like > you - and me of course. Thus you have confirmed, that you are REAL, you are > really, truthfully real, you are there, that what the question was all about. > > We know now, that we can rely on your account in the full sense, only we have > to be able to read it with our own inner being. I write this from my own > inner being, and I know, dear Vaj Ji, that you also know this, and I am thus, > with all our differnces, in total harmony with your atheist soul.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaisnava baloney..so says you LOL!
> > > The nutcase Steve Perino is back... > > > > coldbluiceman: > > So what has your statement done to refute the > > undiluted facts of history? > > > > The following report is a preliminary social > > analysis of the > > so-called 'rasavada', a minor deviant tantric > > sect... > Ras Report Part 2: The so-called 'ras-lila' is a discredited deviant cult, where the proponents wear the red tilaka, and the neck beads, and the special shawl, and they obstain from the flesh foods. But, the prakriti-sahajiyas are counted out of the main line of Sri Chaitanya, not because of their mundane titilations, but because of a subtle basic contamination in their sadhana. Owing to this topsy-turvey psychic confabulation, the rasavadis imagine themselves more learned in the scriptures than the original Vedic Rishis themselves! Tantra - Shiva-Shakti Polarity Symbolism The rasavadis are devotees of Sri Laksmi, but they impose upon Her the role of Radha, the free enjoyer, the married village cow-woman of Barsana, and they style Sri Krishna of Braj as the Lord Himself; a dark lusty village youth, with themselves as the village gopi girls, dancing the rasa-dance under the autumn moon. Some rasavadi sahjiya miscreants even claim that Sri Krishna's second wife, out of 16,000, (Visnupriya Devi) is actually the Goddess of Fortune Herself, who descends into existence as a formation-combination of male and female principles, purusha and prakriti. The rasiks believe that they can harmonize these two within themselves through 'divine-love' generation in the bodily union of man and woman through tantric yoga, which is identified as the mahabhava of Sri Shiva-Shakti. The Gopi Cult of Radharasvahari Monks and nuns who imitate the confidential girlfriends of Srimati Radharani and Her pastimes, by dressing up as sari-bekhis, i.e., a man in womens clothing, who imagines himself to be the enjoyed of Sri Krishna. In the case of females of the rasavadi cult, since they are already dressed in saris, apparently, they must be serving the guru in other diverse and sundry ways!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Sh sh sHe wishes to leave a Ravi tune. > The words will have to suffice for the chords. Is it to the tune of 'drunken sailor'? > > > From: seventhray1 > > >I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You Bitches", > > >or if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any rate it's > > >only a few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his presents, > > >(intended) again. I wonder if he's put already put up a video on youtube, where he will address us with brutal nakedness. Anyone knows how we can search for non-public videos?
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > When Judy doesn't get the irony, that means I'm getting too transcendentally > ironic. I am sure, Robin, that Judy knows about irony and it's uses here. She has asserted here, that the claim, that it was just fun or irony, would have been only an excuse for back-paddeling, but I am sure this is not the case here. Indeed there are some posts here, that one can only endure with a sense of irony, don't you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The vedic gods
> Frawley thinks the Aryans came OUT OF INDIA and then > invented all the Indo-European languages, up to and > including Finnish! > Jason: > this Frawley is too vedic-centric and looks at other > evidence only if it fits the vedas. Scientific > evidence that does not fit the vedic world-view are > swept under the carpet. > So, you're thinking that the Sanskrit speakers came INTO India, and brought with them their religion, language and their social systems. Not the other way around, like Bill and Barry2 claim. > I guess not too different from the TM-org. > There's no "TM-org", Jason. We don't exactly know what the beliefs were of the Iranians who composed the Avesta. Apparently, they believed in the comsumption of a decoction refered to as 'Hoama', which was imbibed much like the Vedic Soma and that they believed in the powers of the supernal dieties of nature such as the sun, storm, dawn, etc. The Avesta and the Avestan religion was reformed by Zoroaster and the beliefs of that system may have drasticaly altered the original Avestan beliefs. The system of Zoroaster has some striking parallels with the Indian system of Sankhya dualism. It may be that the Indian Sankhya system influenced Zoroaster to alter his system to fit the Indian model! Read more: Out of India? http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/indians.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
I think Judy you have still one post left. Or is this a new tactic, you pretend you posted out, and the come back suddenly, when nobody expects, zhong! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: > > Fairfield Life Post Counter > === > Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 17 00:00:00 2011 > End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 24 00:00:00 2011 > 558 messages as of (UTC) Wed Dec 21 23:08:05 2011 > > 49 authfriend
[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee
Duveyoung: > If the Illuminati do actually start rounding > us all up for the internment camps, the > armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see > themselves being rounded up are sure to go > down shooting... > Well, at least we have one FFL informant that is armed with something more than a camera or a pie!
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's all I > dare say. This is so beautiful, Vaj Ji, how dare I say, you really went down to the essence of the question, and from the bottom of your heart, you revealed the truth of your being, you passed the final test, of showing the truth of your human embodiment, in a haiku like brevity, Vaj Ji, and I, your brother in spirit, Vaj Ji Ji, am lucky to have understood, I doubt FFL is ready yet for such a revelation, but we both know, in unique and unheard of synchronisity, the truth of your revelation. A Jewish girl, Vaj Ji, you are not talking about some superficial girl here, that she is Jewish is highly significant, since, everyone should know that Jews stand for Kabbalah, famed for it's mystic of numbers, as the question was all about numbers, and her beauty was in the intelligence, it was not outside for anyone to see, only for those who are ready for the truth, like you - and me of course. Thus you have confirmed, that you are REAL, you are really, truthfully real, you are there, that what the question was all about. We know now, that we can rely on your account in the full sense, only we have to be able to read it with our own inner being. I write this from my own inner being, and I know, dear Vaj Ji, that you also know this, and I am thus, with all our differnces, in total harmony with your atheist soul.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee
> > > Who exactly are these Illuminati that > > > might round us all up? > > > > > They're alien, shape-shifting, reptilian, > > Jewish bankers. > > whynotnow7: > All of 'em look like Alan Greenspan?! > Don't you just hate the way that Alan Greenspan looks, just like a Jewish banker! They all look alike - because of them, 10,000 children will die from drinking water, before Ed can post another Jew-bait. It's because of Jews like Greenspan and Gingrich, that this country is worse than a cable of Illuminati or Jews. Goddamn America!!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee
> > > Who exactly are these Illuminati that > > > might round us all up? > > > > > They're alien, shape-shifting, reptilian, > > Jewish bankers. > > seekliberation: > I'm sure Hitler had the same technology that > exposed their true identity back in the 1930's > too. > Don't you just love the way Hitler gassed all those Jewish bankers!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee
> > Who exactly are these Illuminati that > > might round us all up? > > Alex Stanley: > They're alien, shape-shifting, reptilian, > Jewish bankers. > Don't you just hate those Jewish bankers!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
Sh sh sHe wishes to leave a Ravi tune. The words will have to suffice for the chords. How'eth is seventhray booed off the stage, if patchouli was the preferred at the flea market? Batman's buddy? Oiest Vey! Ever a new day? Ho hum goes the breath of the seekers, ho hum goes of other ones, on the day of Ravi's return. (chorus)On the day of Ravi's return. Black jacks have we played the last note? How can whips and garter fray? Is the last soon to be hours before Surya rise in a land of western spiritual faraway, a burst of fizzle and commotion that may not be there? We will see how Ravi climbs. (chorus)We will see how Ravi climbs. Sh sh SH leaves a message, for Emily's request, means a lot to Sh sh SH who is sitting right here. (chorus) Sheee who is sitting right here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Don't forget Obba...he's in the running for spontaneous poetry these days :) > > > > > > > From: seventhray1 > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:30 PM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting > > > > > >Â > >for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem. (This is > >business, so reply if you'll do this) Emily, maybe you can get some nice > >scented candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent. Judy, maybe you can > >find some nice decorations. Bob how bout a witty little skit. > > > >I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You Bitches", or > >if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any rate it's only a > >few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his presents, (intended) again. > > > >Love, Ray > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
> > I'll have to ask Judy, if her invention of Vajihad > > was inspired by my use of 'Love Jihad'? I will now > > refer to Vaj as Vaji or better Vaj Ji. > > turquoiseb: > Some can hear criticism of a belief system and under- > stand it to be what it is, a criticism of a belief > system. > So, what business is it of yours what another person believes? Are you the thought police? > Others feel the need to take it personally, > as if it were an attack on them. I've never really > understood the phenomenon myself, so I can't explain > it to you. I'm only reporting on how things seem to > me. > > From my point of view, if there is a jihad going on > on FFL, it has to do with TMers attempting to demonize > anyone who challenges their sophomoric belief system. > You sound really scared! > Denizens of FFL have gotten so used to this that they > actually think it's normal. My feeling is that this > is because they don't get out much, and are so used > to talking only within "echo chambers" in which every- > one shares their beliefs that they don't know how to > act when they encounter different ones. > You sound like an echo chamber yourself. Everyone knows you don't get out much anymore, but at least you could post something different for a change. You suck as a spiritual teacher. Why not just give it up?
[FairfieldLife] Adam and Saul(i) fighting! :D
http://www.iltalehti.fi/viihde/2011122214991154_vi.shtml
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work > > > with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was > > > that the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra > > > systems from the rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF > > > (Yogananda) have sweeter cultivated systems and don't have that kind of > > > evident coarseness at all with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer > > > energy systems to work with. Ammachi people too have nicer working > > > systems top to bottom. The TM people, are characteristically top lit > > > while not connected much to the energy fields in their subtle bodies > > > otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their upper mental > > > fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that. Often > > > the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck flows > > > in their energy fields. That's the comparing experience with it. > > > > > > > That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I > > moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that changed. > > It also corresponds with my experience. > > > > Yep, this person has been extrememely helpful to people here this way, Janet > Sussman: > http://www.timeportalpubs.com/sunpoint.htm > In looking at it, for years TM meditators and their families in spiritual troubles with their own subtle spiritual physiology's have sought out help from her as spiritual things have got out of balance. Even with the top level TM folks. She has been an important resource out in the meditating community, along with the saints, healers and spiritual teachers coming through like John Douglas or the ladies. There are some other people here who are good at it too. However, these subtle system energetic troubles even intermittent spiritual meditator depressions rooted in the system, evidently get beyond the purview of just TM and TM-siddhis administrators. That Maharishi never really taught much about it makes one wonder how able he was with it; as in, even the enlightened can't know everything. Is interesting that M never cultivated or held out shakti-pat as a modality of his spiritual help. It wasn't his thing evidently.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca rites featured at Willka T'ka Garden Paradise Resort, Peru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > more of Richard Clarke's travels. The Ayahuasca room appears to be next to > the Yoga Hall. > > http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/willka-tikagarden-paradise-resort-in-perus-sacred-valley/ > If you want to check out a path, that combines Ayahuasca with Indian spirituality, you might want to check out Prem Baba, an brazilian Ayahuasca shaman, who is now a teacher in the lineage of Hans Maharaj of Rishikesh. http://www.prembaba.org.br/ He holds seminars in different places including Holland.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > From my point of view, if there is a jihad going on > on FFL, it has to do with TMers attempting to demonize > anyone who challenges their sophomoric belief system. Do you mean like Ju-JihaD? ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > The deal is, Vajihad, > > I'll have to ask Judy, if her invention of Vajihad was > inspired by my use of 'Love Jihad'? I will now refer > to Vaj as Vaji or better Vaj Ji. I think it has to do with the tendency to interpret any criticism of TM or TMers and the weirdass things they believe to be not only true but Truth as some kind of ill-intentioned jihad. Some can hear criticism of a belief system and under- stand it to be what it is, a criticism of a belief system. Others feel the need to take it personally, as if it were an attack on them. I've never really understood the phenomenon myself, so I can't explain it to you. I'm only reporting on how things seem to me. >From my point of view, if there is a jihad going on on FFL, it has to do with TMers attempting to demonize anyone who challenges their sophomoric belief system. Denizens of FFL have gotten so used to this that they actually think it's normal. My feeling is that this is because they don't get out much, and are so used to talking only within "echo chambers" in which every- one shares their beliefs that they don't know how to act when they encounter different ones.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Thank you Judy, but I don't think of myself as a seeker. I may > > be an eclectic universalist. > > How are you defining "seeker"? Somebody who seeks a path in this case, I am not looking for a path. > "Seeker" and "eclectic > universalist" aren't mutually exclusive as I would define > the terms. Neither are they identical. Being a non-seeker and an eclectic universalist aren't mutually exclusive. Please understand this: This is what Buck and me are all about, when we say that the TMorg should allow people to see saints - not that they are seeking a different path, or adopting different techniques, or a different guru, or a different world view. They are simply taking the darshan, the blessings, the shakti - and it is good to widen your horizon and have an experience - out of the box. Would you call Purushas seekers? Many of them do the very same thing, and why not? > "Seeker" is nonspecific regarding one's path > (or nonpath), no? Depends on the context. In this context I just don't like the word. > How about "serious explorer of spirituality," would that > work better for you? It's too serious! I just take the things that 'happen' to me. For example, I am not exploring sufism, with the exception of Irina Tweedies 'daughter of fire' I read no sufi books. I am not even into the poetry of Rumi. I just go to dargahs, I stumbled into them so to say. So it is with many things. I may go to the St Thomas cathedral in Chennai, if the opportunity arises, but I am not studying Christianity. I visit small chapels when I go for a run, just for a restful mini-meditation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > The deal is, Vajihad, I'll have to ask Judy, if her invention of Vajihad was inspired by my use of 'Love Jihad'? I will now refer to Vaj as Vaji or better Vaj Ji.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > All right then, I'll just have to entertain myself. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg Thanks. Gave us a good laugh in the morning :-)
