Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
No Jim seriously - not second time, but I will point it every time at my own will, my own fancy, my own convenience - just because a delusion is benign, harmless unlike Barry's sadistic delusions doesn't mean I will let it go unchallenged. My world is always awesome BTW - my comments nothing to do with my world - hilarious, how the hell did you come up with that? It has everything to do with your delusions, your intellectual masturbation, your fancy tales. There was a long time when I let lot of delusional thinking go unanswered, unchallenged viz. Amma is the divine Mother, all kinds of religious, delusional fantasies like yours, spiritual narratives constructed based on borrowed concepts such as Maharishi's go unanswered because I was not ready yet. I had to face my own battles, my own struggles first. I certainly mocked even back then, but mostly internal and sometimes people had to face my wrath especially my ex who was totally delusional. You and Rory are at least nice, functional otherwise. You talked me off the ledge - hilarious. It's understandable when Barry and Vaj gave a dishonest, negative spin on my experiences in the past, not you Jim - it's not acceptable when I have talked about it much. And your thing about not encouraging me on my playing of guitar - lame, really - you think I will fail now? In the absence of your UC, BC-fied grace? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** LOL - Are You Fucking Serious, Ravi?? This is the second time you have tried this, my world would be awesome if it wasn't for your delusion, Jim, stuff. I talked you off the ledge last time, but this time, go ahead and jump. My younger brother used to pull this shit, also, proclaiming to the nearest person, if he broke something, for example, Look what you made me do!. So, 1) I am used to it, and 2) It makes almost no impression on me, to modify my behavior. PS I also wanted to encourage your playing of the guitar, but I won't now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is there is nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of Rory, Jim talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions from Share to them you see. I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the same game at Amma - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for her delusional devotee base. I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM, Maharishi philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Yes dear Obba this is too much crap, this unlimited posting. Cool it, Ravi dollink. This first week is like a crowd of malnourished folks suddenly having access to a banquet; everybody's going to overeat. It'll calm down pretty soon. Hey Jim, Rory - I know you guys are helpless victims of your IED (Intellectual Enlightenment Disorder) and can't stop spamming, talking about your UC, BC garbage but is it possible you can email/IM each other. Take my dear Aunt Share with you - she is the only one delusional enough to entertain you guys. Or perhaps the BATGAP list? Can you do that for the rest of the normal people like *Us* here, I know your *me*'s are very nice, and humble Or just condense your fucking bullshit and the number of posts please. Make it easy on *Us* non-UC folks. Is that too much to ask? Love, Light, Laughter Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The second word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: said: uvaaca? (/~oo-vaacha/,from 'vac')
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The third word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: O Not in the original. Just indicates, that last word ((Mr.) sañjaya) is in the vocative case (nominative without sandhi would be 'sañjayaH')!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Dear Rory, I am going to consolidate my replies in this reply to your post here because it perfectly demonstrates what I want to say. You say it's not your style to point your finger outwards with reference to Barry. So you will just encourage someone's delusions (Barry's delusions in this case) because it is not your philosophy. You don't want to feel the tension, the metaphysical tension caused by the divergent, discordant nature of reality and you would rather numb the complexities, the contradictions by sticking to your philosophy of *Us* and *Me*. It is clear then that you are not driven by any spiritual experience that has caused any transformation, not motivated by any search for truth but have created a very beautiful sounding narrative based on borrowed concepts of Maharishi - now you have given your own spin to it and you spout your philosophy ad nauseam. This is the same issue with your erstwhile online autobiography. It was hilarous - I only read a few lines over a few chapters and it drove me totally nuts. I'm glad you are over those experiences but its the same thing you have switched one narrative for another. I can't seem to remember the incredible narrative of your biography, I have to say you have a highly fantasized, imaginative mind - but you have this new narrative now - me, Us, wavicles, particles, healing and integrating of you and in me (did I get that right). I am trying my best to be cordial given the sensitive nature of pointing out someone's delusions - your delusions in this case. I don't doubt your sincerity, your genuineness - you are a really nice guy. I look at your picture to day and I go - Oh really Ravi, you want to do this to this nice guy Rory with a beautiful smile? But I had to. This is not your school, not your captive audience, not the Batgap list Rory - this is FFL where the Kali's Pimp does his drive-bys. I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path - you hear me? It's the narrative you have built, it's the abstract, vague philosophical bullshit that you spout that I have an issue against. It's lame for you to concur with Share on me being testy from trying to wean off smoking Rory. Anyone who knows me personally know how balanced, how calm I am even as I am being under various stress, needs of life, how totally under control I am even as I get mad at people's dishonesty (my friends don't get to see that though - that is my anger) No Rory - you can do better than that. Or may be you can't - you can't help yourself. But have mercy on others - just imagine there's a limit on posting, get those wavicles of yours that are out of whack under control. Ravi. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:05 PM, RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Well Barry's never had an issue with Rory Mark II because Rory Mark II never had anything much to say to Barry's dishonest tantrums other than wavicle, particle, me, Us, love, light, laughter bullshit. Perhaps Rory had an opening at the Rorian Mystery School and was looking at Barry as a potential student? We will never know and perhaps it is destined to remain a mystery. Hey, Ravi, I am happy you have felt moved to call Barry on his tantrums (plural: tantra?), if that pleases you, but that is not my style. I don't find, usually, that pointing my finger outward really solves my feelings inward. Some of that may be because I grew up in a family with a very large, strong, unpredictably angry father, where that kind of honesty would have instantly brought me great suffering, if not death, and, coward that I am, I didn't particularly want to suffer or -- miserable though I found life sometimes -- to die. Of course, there are always exceptions, and I contain huge amounts of ignorance within me, and in real life I speak out in an attempt to comb the mirror more often than necessary, I am pretty sure. Your mileage may of course widely vary. I am not trying to change you or Barry or Judy. I see my mission here as simple: love what IS, no matter how ugly it may appear to me and in me at first. Of course, as you can see, I also like the feeling of understanding and being understood, and hence my dialogues. And I like the feeling of assimilation and healing, once I have actually assimilated and healed the rather intense suffering I often feel here. Anyhow, thank you for being You. *L*L*L*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The second word
Bhagavad Gita - First Verse dhṛtarāṣṭra http://vedabase.net/d/dhrtarastra uvācahttp://vedabase.net/u/uvaca dharma http://vedabase.net/d/dharma-kṣetre http://vedabase.net/k/ksetre kuru http://vedabase.net/k/kuru-kṣetre http://vedabase.net/k/ksetre samavetā http://vedabase.net/s/samaveta yuyutsavaḥhttp://vedabase.net/y/yuyutsavah māmakāḥ http://vedabase.net/m/mamakah pāṇḍavāś caiva kim http://vedabase.net/k/kim akurvata http://vedabase.net/a/akurvata sañjaya http://vedabase.net/s/sanjaya Dhṛtarāṣṭra http://vedabase.net/d/dhrtarastra said: O Sañjayahttp://vedabase.net/s/sanjaya, after my sons and the sons of Pāṇḍu http://vedabase.net/p/panduassembled in the place of pilgrimage at Kurukṣetra http://vedabase.net/k/kuruksetra, desiring to fight, what did they do? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:39 PM, card cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: said: uvaaca? (/~oo-vaacha/,from 'vac')
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The first word
I hope you don't do that dear Obba - you made your point. You really cracked me up with your one word posts on Bhagavad Gita and with your posts to the clueless Share and Rory. Thank you - you made my fucking day !!! An excellent partner-in-crime you are LOL On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:56 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Tomorrow I will cover words 5-25, individual posts. The version you have must be one of the many different versions. Now what version was I using...gotta go and find it now. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Not, In a world? Oh, maybe that was the movie preview. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Dhrtarastra
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemais...@yahoo.com ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
[FairfieldLife] Barry's OPD - 5 day forecast
Analysis: Barry's obsession levels are surprisingly below normal. Barry was expected to come out hitting hard against the new guidelines of unlimited posting. The levels of Paranoia and Delusion are well below normal for this time of the week as well. However these are expected to intensify as the week progresses with projected max of 95/40/20 (O/P/D) on Wednesday. http://imgur.com/hSi8oFY
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** .. dharma-kSetre kuru-kSetre samavetaaH (sam-ava-itaaH; from 'i'[~ee], to go); yu_yutsavaH; maamakaaH paaNDavaaH; ca + eva kim akurvata sañjaya ..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Fucking hilarious Barry baby - you and Curtis are too dishonest, too hypocritical, burdened by your respective Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot speak to be pointing at others. Huh - Barry? What is your Neuro-Linguistic Programming Robot speak? Here's some clues - attention vampire, secondary, tertiary, n-ary attention levels, trans-incarnational karma, petty tyrants a la Castaneda - ring a bell Barry baby? Does that remind you of anyone you know? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path I don't doubt any one's spiritual experiences. There are several people who may share their spiritual experiences, their subjectives states of bliss, energy - I listen, because I believe in it - but the minute I see them trying to build a narrative out of it, some fancy tales, delusional fantasies, an elaborate philosophy to peddle I challenge it. I can't help it Rory - it's not your experiences I have a problem with it's the narrative you are peddling - the wavicle, particle, Us, me bullshit. I can't help it - I have nothing against you personally. I have been meaning to go after your narrative for a while but you haven't been on FFL for a while. I like several posters here on FFL, consider some as my friends - they are the ones who don't peddle anything here, haven't so far anyway. But if they do I will challenge them as well. I would rather not have any friends than support anyone's delusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Rory, I am going to consolidate my replies in this reply to your post here because it perfectly demonstrates what I want to say. You say it's not your style to point your finger outwards with reference to Barry. So you will just encourage someone's delusions (Barry's delusions in this case) because it is not your philosophy. You don't want to feel the tension, the metaphysical tension caused by the divergent, discordant nature of reality and you would rather numb the complexities, the contradictions by sticking to your philosophy of *Us* and *Me*. It is clear then that you are not driven by any spiritual experience that has caused any transformation, not motivated by any search for truth but have created a very beautiful sounding narrative based on borrowed concepts of Maharishi - now you have given your own spin to it and you spout your philosophy ad nauseam. This is the same issue with your erstwhile online autobiography. It was hilarous - I only read a few lines over a few chapters and it drove me totally nuts. I'm glad you are over those experiences but its the same thing you have switched one narrative for another. I can't seem to remember the incredible narrative of your biography, I have to say you have a highly fantasized, imaginative mind - but you have this new narrative now - me, Us, wavicles, particles, healing and integrating of you and in me (did I get that right). I am trying my best to be cordial given the sensitive nature of pointing out someone's delusions - your delusions in this case. I don't doubt your sincerity, your genuineness - you are a really nice guy. I look at your picture to day and I go - Oh really Ravi, you want to do this to this nice guy Rory with a beautiful smile? But I had to. This is not your school, not your captive audience, not the Batgap list Rory - this is FFL where the Kali's Pimp does his drive-bys. I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path - you hear me? It's the narrative you have built, it's the abstract, vague philosophical bullshit that you spout that I have an issue against. It's lame for you to concur with Share on me being testy from trying to wean off smoking Rory. Anyone who knows me personally know how balanced, how calm I am even as I am being under various stress, needs of life, how totally under control I am even as I get mad at people's dishonesty (my friends don't get to see that though - that is my anger) No Rory - you can do better than that. Or may be you can't - you can't help yourself. But have mercy on others - just imagine there's a limit on posting, get those wavicles of yours that are out of whack under control. Ravi. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:05 PM, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Well Barry's never had an issue with Rory Mark II because Rory Mark II never had anything much to say to Barry's dishonest tantrums other than wavicle, particle, me, Us, love, light, laughter bullshit. Perhaps Rory had an opening at the Rorian Mystery School and was looking at Barry as a potential student? We will never know and perhaps it is destined to remain a mystery. Hey, Ravi, I am happy you have felt moved to call Barry on his tantrums (plural: tantra?), if that pleases you, but that is not my style. I don't find, usually, that pointing my finger outward really solves my feelings inward. Some of that may be because I grew up in a family with a very large, strong, unpredictably angry father, where that kind of honesty would have instantly brought me great suffering, if not death, and, coward that I am, I didn't particularly want to suffer or -- miserable though I found life sometimes -- to die. Of course, there are always exceptions, and I contain huge amounts of ignorance within me, and in real life I speak out in an
[FairfieldLife] When power goes to your head...
http://www.npr.org/2013/08/10/210686255/a-sense-of-power-can-do-a-number-on-your-brain It's rather easy to see, why that's the case from the POV of natural selection?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? Please don't take this as a total slam, or a declaration that I don't like you. I do. I'm still available for discussions about real-world things we both might like, such as movies or TV or good food or just humor. It's just that I've learned my lesson about interfacing with you on issues of belief or supposed states of conscious- ness or whatever. You have a tendency to drop into what Curtis may have called NLP 'bot-speak when talking about such things. I'd term it more spiritual teacher schtick. But either way, I have neither respect for it, nor the patience to endure it. I've heard the same schtick from so many people -- both teachers and students -- over the years that for me it's like trying to have a conversation with ELIZA. Do you know about ELIZA? She was one of the first experiments in natural language and pseudo- AI, written at MIT during the mid-1960s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA She employed simple pattern matching to emulate the experience of talking with a psychiatrist, and to those early programmers' credit, she did a fairly good job of it. But after the first initial buzz, users soon wrote it off as what they called it, a chatterbot. That's my take on spiritual teacher schtick. It's a FORMULA. Given a question of type A, respond with a corresponding answer, always designed to perpetuate the idea that the teacher is in charge and wiser than the person being spoken to. It's a control mechanism. Some people seem to like that sorta thing, especially those who are searching for some guru to Beam me up, Scotty. I don't care for it much, and tend to prefer people who don't speak according to preset formulas. I am NOT suggesting that you *consciously* speak/write this way, BTW, just that you've been doing it so long that you speak/write that way out of habit. Curtis and I have had many offline discussions about this kind of spiritual schtick, and I've learned a lot from his studies of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. But the bottom line is that neither of us sees much benefit in interfacing with a 'bot any more. That said, I appreciate that your formula is mainly funny. That's a big improvement over the mean girl formulas one usually encounters here.
[FairfieldLife] Yet another spiritual iPhone app
This one sounds just *perfect* for Fairfield. And for 99 cents, somebody *really* should buy it and give it a try, to see what the spooks in the home of Woo Woo have to say: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/10/spirit-story-box_n_3727714.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/10/spirit-story-box_n_3727714.htm\ l
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Nephew Ravi why ranteth on so? You're always and ever a part of the show. Now as for a ciggie, just say no! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemais...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
You are acting like an asshole. End of comment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: No Jim seriously - not second time, but I will point it every time at my own will, my own fancy, my own convenience - just because a delusion is benign, harmless unlike Barry's sadistic delusions doesn't mean I will let it go unchallenged. My world is always awesome BTW - my comments nothing to do with my world - hilarious, how the hell did you come up with that? It has everything to do with your delusions, your intellectual masturbation, your fancy tales. There was a long time when I let lot of delusional thinking go unanswered, unchallenged viz. Amma is the divine Mother, all kinds of religious, delusional fantasies like yours, spiritual narratives constructed based on borrowed concepts such as Maharishi's go unanswered because I was not ready yet. I had to face my own battles, my own struggles first. I certainly mocked even back then, but mostly internal and sometimes people had to face my wrath especially my ex who was totally delusional. You and Rory are at least nice, functional otherwise. You talked me off the ledge - hilarious. It's understandable when Barry and Vaj gave a dishonest, negative spin on my experiences in the past, not you Jim - it's not acceptable when I have talked about it much. And your thing about not encouraging me on my playing of guitar - lame, really - you think I will fail now? In the absence of your UC, BC-fied grace? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** LOL - Are You Fucking Serious, Ravi?? This is the second time you have tried this, my world would be awesome if it wasn't for your delusion, Jim, stuff. I talked you off the ledge last time, but this time, go ahead and jump. My younger brother used to pull this shit, also, proclaiming to the nearest person, if he broke something, for example, Look what you made me do!. So, 1) I am used to it, and 2) It makes almost no impression on me, to modify my behavior. PS I also wanted to encourage your playing of the guitar, but I won't now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is there is nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of Rory, Jim talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions from Share to them you see. I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the same game at Amma - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for her delusional devotee base. I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM, Maharishi philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Yes dear Obba this is too much crap, this unlimited posting. Cool it, Ravi dollink. This first week is like a crowd of malnourished folks suddenly having access to a banquet; everybody's going to overeat. It'll calm down pretty soon. Hey Jim, Rory - I know you guys are helpless victims of your IED (Intellectual Enlightenment Disorder) and can't stop spamming, talking about your UC, BC garbage but is it possible you can email/IM each other. Take my dear Aunt Share with you - she is the only one delusional enough to entertain you guys. Or perhaps the BATGAP list? Can you do that for the rest of the normal people like *Us* here, I know your *me*'s are very nice, and humble Or just condense your fucking bullshit and the number of posts please. Make it easy on *Us* non-UC folks. Is that too much to ask? Love, Light, Laughter Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Sanjaya
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Obbajee doth uvacha: Now Fairfield Life, I gotcha, words 5 etc. won't botcha! From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning SMUT! Transliteration of SMUT, see here, banana thingie, with hints of more that one or two, translates to an orgy! Share is way off the program! Way OFF! -Smut report. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Rory, you got Judy and turq sort of agreeing. That's quite an accomplishment (-: And keep in mind, Ravi's going off cigarettes, so might be a little testier than usual. Anyway, you've totally uplifted this place. And if anyone could lure Robin back to FFL, it's you. And Obbajee (-: PS maybe see you all at Revs for that banana thingie, thank you for invite (-: From: RoryGoff rorygoff@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Rory, I am glad you are back and here. Amazing what removing limits will do. Smile. FFL needed a little influx of love, light, and laughter. Even Barry deigned to talk to you! Thank You so much, Emily! It's always a pleasure to hear from You. I must admit I am now feeling as if I have bitten off a little more than I could chew, energetically, and am suffering from some indigestion that feels rather like a hangover. I am currently integrating what feels like sadness, disappointment, shock, betrayal, confusion, anger, drunkenness, judgment, and so on and so on Quite a potpourri. All good, but a bit spicier fare than I have had lately. I tend to live a pretty quite life and eat blandly here in the 'Field, I mean in Fairfield the town. But all in all a phenomenal day, definitely -- what appears to have been a relatively civil conversation with Barry, as you say, and conversely what appeared to be great disapproval from my old friends Judy (who I admit has not *always* seemed entirely pleased with me in the past) and Ravi (with whom I have always enjoyed cordial relations, if I recall correctly). An odd day all around... Love, Light and Laughter Always, Rory
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
My intention was not to spam, but LOL! The card will find an imagery meaning, beware.. LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Sanjaya
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Hey Rory! No biggee - Perhaps it is a difference in lifestyle. I live in a very active suburban/urban environment, and may at the drop of a hat, be walking along the streets in San Francisco, or in any of the myriad other communities around here. I also did a lot of teaching and managing during my career, meaning that if someone didn't understand what I said the first time, I had to invent many other ways, of saying the same thing. So if people are put off by the language you are using (wavicles and particles, for example), perhaps find another way to say the same thing. And don't let the assholes get to you! Jai Guru Dev, and enjoy your breakfast, and the beginning of another amazing day! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Rory, I am glad you are back and here. Amazing what removing limits will do. Smile. FFL needed a little influx of love, light, and laughter. Even Barry deigned to talk to you! Thank You so much, Emily! It's always a pleasure to hear from You. I must admit I am now feeling as if I have bitten off a little more than I could chew, energetically, and am suffering from some indigestion that feels rather like a hangover. I am currently integrating what feels like sadness, disappointment, shock, betrayal, confusion, anger, drunkenness, judgment, and so on and so on Quite a potpourri. All good, but a bit spicier fare than I have had lately. I tend to live a pretty quite life and eat blandly here in the 'Field, I mean in Fairfield the town. But all in all a phenomenal day, definitely -- what appears to have been a relatively civil conversation with Barry, as you say, and conversely what appeared to be great disapproval from my old friends Judy (who I admit has not *always* seemed entirely pleased with me in the past) and Ravi (with whom I have always enjoyed cordial relations, if I recall correctly). An odd day all around... Love, Light and Laughter Always, Rory
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Oh, DEFINITELY!!! I had forgotten about him, but loved the faux hawk. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Sanjaya
[FairfieldLife] Re: When power goes to your head...
I like the comment someone makes about Oprah Winfrey. haha. Good someone did a study on this. I hope they got paid. In extreme cases, this can be very dangerous! The mere fact of perception of power, not only by the beholder, but the perceived masses placing this belief upon! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.npr.org/2013/08/10/210686255/a-sense-of-power-can-do-a-number-on-your-brain It's rather easy to see, why that's the case from the POV of natural selection?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
No, I was just riffing off what Curtis had said. Sure, Rory's language can be a bit out there, but the guy's got an enviable degree of inner peace and equanimity, and it's very strange to see him, of all people, attract such vituperation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Ah ha ha.  That was *you* Alex, that said that, no?  You'd better make sure you get over to Rory's palace at the earliest next opportunity to soothe the rough edges out - perhaps bring him a hangover concoction/remedy from that kitchen of yours - hopefully nothing that separates on the way over.  From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: I know what he's saying too. It comes across to me as egotistical. And phony as a three-dollar bill. (I'm sure *he* thinks it's true, but that's the egotism, IMHO.) OK, phony too, Judy! Thanks. You are very generous with the offerings today. Now it appears you may somewhat agree with Curtis, who saw me as a Neurolinguistic-programming, form-running charlatan. This is indeed a day to remember. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/324398
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Dripping with your glorious sense of your self, you have not one constructive comment in this long, masturbatory rant of yours, you twit. It is all about YOU, and how YOU don't like this, and how YOU talked with Curtis about it, and how YOU don't have time for it. Newsflash: Who gives a shit? If you don't have another way to say what Rory has said, than you are clearly out of your depth, once again. You are one of the least creative people on here. You don't create anything, except these rants of yours. A critic is all you are. As Ann has said before, twice, sometimes you just need to go and fuck off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? Please don't take this as a total slam, or a declaration that I don't like you. I do. I'm still available for discussions about real-world things we both might like, such as movies or TV or good food or just humor. It's just that I've learned my lesson about interfacing with you on issues of belief or supposed states of conscious- ness or whatever. You have a tendency to drop into what Curtis may have called NLP 'bot-speak when talking about such things. I'd term it more spiritual teacher schtick. But either way, I have neither respect for it, nor the patience to endure it. I've heard the same schtick from so many people -- both teachers and students -- over the years that for me it's like trying to have a conversation with ELIZA. Do you know about ELIZA? She was one of the first experiments in natural language and pseudo- AI, written at MIT during the mid-1960s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA She employed simple pattern matching to emulate the experience of talking with a psychiatrist, and to those early programmers' credit, she did a fairly good job of it. But after the first initial buzz, users soon wrote it off as what they called it, a chatterbot. That's my take on spiritual teacher schtick. It's a FORMULA. Given a question of type A, respond with a corresponding answer, always designed to perpetuate the idea that the teacher is in charge and wiser than the person being spoken to. It's a control mechanism. Some people seem to like that sorta thing, especially those who are searching for some guru to Beam me up, Scotty. I don't care for it much, and tend to prefer people who don't speak according to preset formulas. I am NOT suggesting that you *consciously* speak/write this way, BTW, just that you've been doing it so long that you speak/write that way out of habit. Curtis and I have had many offline discussions about this kind of spiritual schtick, and I've learned a lot from his studies of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. But the bottom line is that neither of us sees much benefit in interfacing with a 'bot any more. That said, I appreciate that your formula is mainly funny. That's a big improvement over the mean girl formulas one usually encounters here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The first word
Dear Ravi, Daddy, please?! Please, please? It is so much fun and it is giving Card something to do on unlimited post month, we could have the whole Bhagavad Gita explained, free of charge, by the one and only, Card. Enlightenment will surely come to all those reading FFL! Let you in on a secret, the Card, is the reincarnation of Kenny from South Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFVQJ9HRVOY He is doing silent, sharing of supreme knowledge in this FFL. Because he could not talk in all of his other lives, he was given a boon to continue, if he did this task. Hence, we have Cardknow's Knowledge. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I hope you don't do that dear Obba - you made your point. You really cracked me up with your one word posts on Bhagavad Gita and with your posts to the clueless Share and Rory. Thank you - you made my fucking day !!! An excellent partner-in-crime you are LOL On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:56 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Tomorrow I will cover words 5-25, individual posts. The version you have must be one of the many different versions. Now what version was I using...gotta go and find it now. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Not, In a world? Oh, maybe that was the movie preview. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Dhrtarastra
[FairfieldLife] Shrii B.M. brings sun to Helsinki, next Thursday?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/9494768170/ Hmmm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Ravi, there's an acupressure point that in the past has helped subside cookie cravings in me. In EFT it's called the Karate Chop point because it's that part of the hand you'd use to do a karate chop. Anyway, in Traditional Chinese Medicine it's associated with the small intestine. When a cigarette craving comes up, you can tap the 2 Karate Chop points against each other and say whatever comes to mind. The more spontaneous you are, the better. When I was doing it, I'd simply say out loud how much I wanted those cookies, over and over. And then the craving went away (-: From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning Yes dear thank you, I gave up for a year in my twenties, cold turkey as well and yeah been hungry as hell today but not a problem - I will make it. I do want to quit. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey, Ravi, in my twenties I smoked for 8 years, got up to a pack and a half a day, quit cold turkey, gained 30 pounds, never had or wanted another cigarette. Good luck with it. Perfect to go for discipline while Saturn is exalted I think. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning Pipe is usually about a two month stint. Then I put it away. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sure it is relaxing - as I was telling someone it's just not nicotine but the sensory experience and the whole ritual that goes with it. It's a long habit for me now. I think I'm taking in more nicotine with the e-cigarette, the starter pack has high nicotine and I used to smoke ultra-lights. So anyone I will get the lighter version and eventually zero nicotine. E-cigs aren't same as cigarettes sensory wise but pretty close and if I just mindlessly emulate my ritual with the e-cig I should be fine. Anyway I hope you don't start the pipe Steve, you may regret :-) On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Funny. I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again. Help deal with stress in general. Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed. It has been a very mild summer, weather-wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and I'm on e-cigarettes starting today :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory Jim's philosophy - as simple as that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other agenda, no interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling Barry's paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) - though it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded spamming but nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they are making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something interesting, something authentic and real. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please, don't you start--at least not when this is only the third day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm down in a few days. BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several that I found of interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is there is nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of Rory, Jim talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions from Share to them you see. I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the same game at Amma - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for her delusional devotee base. I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM, Maharishi philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: No, I was just riffing off what Curtis had said. Sure, Rory's language can be a bit out there, but the guy's got an enviable degree of inner peace and equanimity, and it's very strange to see him, of all people, attract such vituperation. Alex, some (but by no means all) of what he says feels to me rather like being told by a fundamentalist Christian that he's praying for us to be saved like he is. His language *per se* doesn't bother me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Ah ha ha.  That was *you* Alex, that said that, no?  You'd better make sure you get over to Rory's palace at the earliest next opportunity to soothe the rough edges out - perhaps bring him a hangover concoction/remedy from that kitchen of yours - hopefully nothing that separates on the way over.  From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: I know what he's saying too. It comes across to me as egotistical. And phony as a three-dollar bill. (I'm sure *he* thinks it's true, but that's the egotism, IMHO.) OK, phony too, Judy! Thanks. You are very generous with the offerings today. Now it appears you may somewhat agree with Curtis, who saw me as a Neurolinguistic-programming, form-running charlatan. This is indeed a day to remember. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/324398
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: (snip) That said, I appreciate that your formula is mainly funny. That's a big improvement over the mean girl formulas one usually encounters here. Says the guy who would *never* employ any mean boy formulas against anyone here. Not a thing mean about Barry, no siree bob. Mind-boggling.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Nisagardatta smoked all the time, it won't hurt Ravi anymore than it did Niss. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word Nephew Ravi why ranteth on so? You're always and ever a part of the show. Now as for a ciggie, just say no! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemais...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Ravi - As Rory, said, a lot of this is shorthand, for *shared* experiences, within the context of the symptoms that Maharishi associated with each one. So you are saying, take it off-line. But you are in the minority here, wrt the class the rest of us have taken. Mostly current and ex-TM'ers, here on FFL. Here's a background, states of consciousness, and associated symptoms: CC - 24/7 witnessing, living in silence. GC - perception of the finest relative. What it says, including worlds and beings not clearly evident to most. UC - Unity predominates over differences. Brahman - an integrated life, incorporating all of the above, in a package, and much, much more. So, rather than this be an attempt to have a shared jack-off session, with Rory, using code to show how enlightened we are, and how mystical, it is rather, an implicit show of understanding, and respect. That each of these phenomena, as described in the symptom table above, can be understood, experientially, as a strata of consciousness, vs. some random God-like event. Rory and I are actually sharing a lot of info, during our quips and twists, but since you do not share the thirty or so years of shared experience, it goes right over your head. As Maxwell Smart would say, Sorry about that, chief. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path I don't doubt any one's spiritual experiences. There are several people who may share their spiritual experiences, their subjectives states of bliss, energy - I listen, because I believe in it - but the minute I see them trying to build a narrative out of it, some fancy tales, delusional fantasies, an elaborate philosophy to peddle I challenge it. I can't help it Rory - it's not your experiences I have a problem with it's the narrative you are peddling - the wavicle, particle, Us, me bullshit. I can't help it - I have nothing against you personally. I have been meaning to go after your narrative for a while but you haven't been on FFL for a while. I like several posters here on FFL, consider some as my friends - they are the ones who don't peddle anything here, haven't so far anyway. But if they do I will challenge them as well. I would rather not have any friends than support anyone's delusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Rory, I am going to consolidate my replies in this reply to your post here because it perfectly demonstrates what I want to say. You say it's not your style to point your finger outwards with reference to Barry. So you will just encourage someone's delusions (Barry's delusions in this case) because it is not your philosophy. You don't want to feel the tension, the metaphysical tension caused by the divergent, discordant nature of reality and you would rather numb the complexities, the contradictions by sticking to your philosophy of *Us* and *Me*. It is clear then that you are not driven by any spiritual experience that has caused any transformation, not motivated by any search for truth but have created a very beautiful sounding narrative based on borrowed concepts of Maharishi - now you have given your own spin to it and you spout your philosophy ad nauseam. This is the same issue with your erstwhile online autobiography. It was hilarous - I only read a few lines over a few chapters and it drove me totally nuts. I'm glad you are over those experiences but its the same thing you have switched one narrative for another. I can't seem to remember the incredible narrative of your biography, I have to say you have a highly fantasized, imaginative mind - but you have this new narrative now - me, Us, wavicles, particles, healing and integrating of you and in me (did I get that right). I am trying my best to be cordial given the sensitive nature of pointing out someone's delusions - your delusions in this case. I don't doubt your sincerity, your genuineness - you are a really nice guy. I look at your picture to day and I go - Oh really Ravi, you want to do this to this nice guy Rory with a beautiful smile? But I had to. This is not your school, not your captive audience, not the Batgap list Rory - this is FFL where the Kali's Pimp does his drive-bys. I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path - you hear me? It's the narrative you have built, it's the abstract, vague philosophical bullshit that you spout that I have an issue against. It's lame for you to concur with Share on me being testy from trying to wean off smoking Rory. Anyone who knows me personally know how balanced, how calm I am even as I am being under various stress, needs of life, how totally under control I am even as I get mad at people's dishonesty (my friends don't get to see that though - that is my anger) No Rory - you can
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Of course I got it... ;-) Even though I'm a Finn, I'm not a total simpleton! LoL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemaister@... ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: (snip) I appreciate your course-correction, What course-correction? Unless you mean a correction by me of *your* course in claiming I had said things I hadn't. but really, it makes no real difference to me. I don't care whether it makes a difference to you. I just don't like to be misrepresented. Phoniness and egotism and dislike and judgment etc. ARE a significant part of who I am, and always have been, and always will be, doubtless Fine, then you should expect that folks will comment on those qualities from time to time and not get all wounded and resentful when they do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
I have no idea what you mean about the food stamps and farm bill - what does that mean? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning Yes dear MJ - the percentage of people using tobacco is much higher and tobacco is pretty cheap as well. So there - any other questions on India? Lump 'em together. I am not shy like you, declining to comment on Food Stamps vis-a-vis the Farm Bill. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Do lot of people use tobacco in India? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and I'm on e-cigarettes starting today :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory Jim's philosophy - as simple as that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other agenda, no interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling Barry's paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) - though it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded spamming but nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they are making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something interesting, something authentic and real. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please, don't you start--at least not when this is only the third day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm down in a few days. BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several that I found of interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is there is nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of Rory, Jim talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions from Share to them you see. I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the same game at Amma - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for her delusional devotee base. I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM, Maharishi philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Yes dear Obba this is too much crap, this unlimited posting. Cool it, Ravi dollink. This first week is like a crowd of malnourished folks suddenly having access to a banquet; everybody's going to overeat. It'll calm down pretty soon. Hey Jim, Rory - I know you guys are helpless victims of your IED (Intellectual Enlightenment Disorder) and can't stop spamming, talking about your UC, BC garbage but is it possible you can email/IM each other. Take my dear Aunt Share with you - she is the only one delusional enough to entertain you guys. Or perhaps the BATGAP list? Can you do that for the rest of the normal people like *Us* here, I know your *me*'s are very nice, and humble Or just condense your fucking bullshit and the number of posts please. Make it easy on *Us* non-UC folks. Is that too much to ask? Love, Light, Laughter Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Ravi - As Rory, said, a lot of this is shorthand, for *shared* experiences, within the context of the symptoms that Maharishi associated with each one. Some of it is, and some of it is peculiar (in both senses of the term!) to Rory, the wavicles and particles kind of stuff, as Ravi notes below. So you are saying, take it off-line. But you are in the minority here, wrt the class the rest of us have taken. Mostly current and ex-TM'ers, here on FFL. Here's a background, states of consciousness, and associated symptoms: CC - 24/7 witnessing, living in silence. GC - perception of the finest relative. What it says, including worlds and beings not clearly evident to most. UC - Unity predominates over differences. Brahman - an integrated life, incorporating all of the above, in a package, and much, much more. So, rather than this be an attempt to have a shared jack-off session, with Rory, using code to show how enlightened we are, and how mystical, it is rather, an implicit show of understanding, and respect. That each of these phenomena, as described in the symptom table above, can be understood, experientially, as a strata of consciousness, vs. some random God-like event. Rory and I are actually sharing a lot of info, during our quips and twists, but since you do not share the thirty or so years of shared experience, it goes right over your head. As Maxwell Smart would say, Sorry about that, chief. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path I don't doubt any one's spiritual experiences. There are several people who may share their spiritual experiences, their subjectives states of bliss, energy - I listen, because I believe in it - but the minute I see them trying to build a narrative out of it, some fancy tales, delusional fantasies, an elaborate philosophy to peddle I challenge it. I can't help it Rory - it's not your experiences I have a problem with it's the narrative you are peddling - the wavicle, particle, Us, me bullshit. I can't help it - I have nothing against you personally. I have been meaning to go after your narrative for a while but you haven't been on FFL for a while. I like several posters here on FFL, consider some as my friends - they are the ones who don't peddle anything here, haven't so far anyway. But if they do I will challenge them as well. I would rather not have any friends than support anyone's delusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Rory, I am going to consolidate my replies in this reply to your post here because it perfectly demonstrates what I want to say. You say it's not your style to point your finger outwards with reference to Barry. So you will just encourage someone's delusions (Barry's delusions in this case) because it is not your philosophy. You don't want to feel the tension, the metaphysical tension caused by the divergent, discordant nature of reality and you would rather numb the complexities, the contradictions by sticking to your philosophy of *Us* and *Me*. It is clear then that you are not driven by any spiritual experience that has caused any transformation, not motivated by any search for truth but have created a very beautiful sounding narrative based on borrowed concepts of Maharishi - now you have given your own spin to it and you spout your philosophy ad nauseam. This is the same issue with your erstwhile online autobiography. It was hilarous - I only read a few lines over a few chapters and it drove me totally nuts. I'm glad you are over those experiences but its the same thing you have switched one narrative for another. I can't seem to remember the incredible narrative of your biography, I have to say you have a highly fantasized, imaginative mind - but you have this new narrative now - me, Us, wavicles, particles, healing and integrating of you and in me (did I get that right). I am trying my best to be cordial given the sensitive nature of pointing out someone's delusions - your delusions in this case. I don't doubt your sincerity, your genuineness - you are a really nice guy. I look at your picture to day and I go - Oh really Ravi, you want to do this to this nice guy Rory with a beautiful smile? But I had to. This is not your school, not your captive audience, not the Batgap list Rory - this is FFL where the Kali's Pimp does his drive-bys. I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path - you hear me? It's the narrative you have built, it's the abstract, vague philosophical bullshit that you spout that I have an issue against. It's lame for you to concur with Share on me
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Fourth word intermission: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIKsHh3BFPI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: Of course I got it... ;-) Even though I'm a Finn, I'm not a total simpleton! LoL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemaister@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Dripping with your glorious sense of your self, you have not one constructive comment in this long, masturbatory rant of yours, you twit. It is all about YOU, and how YOU don't like this, and how YOU talked with Curtis about it, and how YOU don't have time for it. Exactly the way he reacted to Robin, attacking Robin for not writing things that interested *Barry*. (And this, his first post to Robin, was a comment on something Robin had written *to Rick* in a discussion *they* were having, believe it or not.) Interestingly, re Barry and Curtis purportedly deciding they didn't want to interface with 'bots any longer, very shortly after Barry's attack on Robin, Curtis and Robin embarked on probably the most prolonged and fascinating interfacing we've seen on FFL (although it didn't end well, but that didn't have anything to do with what Barry found unacceptable about Robin). Newsflash: Who gives a shit? If you don't have another way to say what Rory has said, than you are clearly out of your depth, once again. You are one of the least creative people on here. You don't create anything, except these rants of yours. A critic is all you are. As Ann has said before, twice, sometimes you just need to go and fuck off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? Please don't take this as a total slam, or a declaration that I don't like you. I do. I'm still available for discussions about real-world things we both might like, such as movies or TV or good food or just humor. It's just that I've learned my lesson about interfacing with you on issues of belief or supposed states of conscious- ness or whatever. You have a tendency to drop into what Curtis may have called NLP 'bot-speak when talking about such things. I'd term it more spiritual teacher schtick. But either way, I have neither respect for it, nor the patience to endure it. I've heard the same schtick from so many people -- both teachers and students -- over the years that for me it's like trying to have a conversation with ELIZA. Do you know about ELIZA? She was one of the first experiments in natural language and pseudo- AI, written at MIT during the mid-1960s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA She employed simple pattern matching to emulate the experience of talking with a psychiatrist, and to those early programmers' credit, she did a fairly good job of it. But after the first initial buzz, users soon wrote it off as what they called it, a chatterbot. That's my take on spiritual teacher schtick. It's a FORMULA. Given a question of type A, respond with a corresponding answer, always designed to perpetuate the idea that the teacher is in charge and wiser than the person being spoken to. It's a control mechanism. Some people seem to like that sorta thing, especially those who are searching for some guru to Beam me up, Scotty. I don't care for it much, and tend to prefer people who don't speak according to preset formulas. I am NOT suggesting that you *consciously* speak/write this way, BTW, just that you've been doing it so long that you speak/write that way out of habit. Curtis and I have had many offline discussions about this kind of spiritual schtick, and I've learned a lot from his studies of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. But the bottom line is that neither of us sees much benefit in interfacing with a 'bot any more. That said, I appreciate that your formula is mainly funny. That's a big improvement over the mean girl formulas one usually encounters here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
The wavicles and particles stuff is a pretty close analogy to the properties of a photon. That's it. Not really a big challenge to see us in terms of both wave function and particle function, is it? And seeing everyone inside oneself is not a perception I share with Rory, except to take complete responsibility for all of my personal interactions, which is nearly the same thing. Rather than see it as a statement of ego, I see it as Rory's statement of responsibility. Having said that, I posted earlier about teaching and managing, and how both disciplines lead to creativity of expression, when trying to make a point. The last thing I want to do when conveying info, is use language that first needs a lot of explanation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Ravi - As Rory, said, a lot of this is shorthand, for *shared* experiences, within the context of the symptoms that Maharishi associated with each one. Some of it is, and some of it is peculiar (in both senses of the term!) to Rory, the wavicles and particles kind of stuff, as Ravi notes below. So you are saying, take it off-line. But you are in the minority here, wrt the class the rest of us have taken. Mostly current and ex-TM'ers, here on FFL. Here's a background, states of consciousness, and associated symptoms: CC - 24/7 witnessing, living in silence. GC - perception of the finest relative. What it says, including worlds and beings not clearly evident to most. UC - Unity predominates over differences. Brahman - an integrated life, incorporating all of the above, in a package, and much, much more. So, rather than this be an attempt to have a shared jack-off session, with Rory, using code to show how enlightened we are, and how mystical, it is rather, an implicit show of understanding, and respect. That each of these phenomena, as described in the symptom table above, can be understood, experientially, as a strata of consciousness, vs. some random God-like event. Rory and I are actually sharing a lot of info, during our quips and twists, but since you do not share the thirty or so years of shared experience, it goes right over your head. As Maxwell Smart would say, Sorry about that, chief. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I don't doubt your spiritual experiences, your spiritual path I don't doubt any one's spiritual experiences. There are several people who may share their spiritual experiences, their subjectives states of bliss, energy - I listen, because I believe in it - but the minute I see them trying to build a narrative out of it, some fancy tales, delusional fantasies, an elaborate philosophy to peddle I challenge it. I can't help it Rory - it's not your experiences I have a problem with it's the narrative you are peddling - the wavicle, particle, Us, me bullshit. I can't help it - I have nothing against you personally. I have been meaning to go after your narrative for a while but you haven't been on FFL for a while. I like several posters here on FFL, consider some as my friends - they are the ones who don't peddle anything here, haven't so far anyway. But if they do I will challenge them as well. I would rather not have any friends than support anyone's delusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Rory, I am going to consolidate my replies in this reply to your post here because it perfectly demonstrates what I want to say. You say it's not your style to point your finger outwards with reference to Barry. So you will just encourage someone's delusions (Barry's delusions in this case) because it is not your philosophy. You don't want to feel the tension, the metaphysical tension caused by the divergent, discordant nature of reality and you would rather numb the complexities, the contradictions by sticking to your philosophy of *Us* and *Me*. It is clear then that you are not driven by any spiritual experience that has caused any transformation, not motivated by any search for truth but have created a very beautiful sounding narrative based on borrowed concepts of Maharishi - now you have given your own spin to it and you spout your philosophy ad nauseam. This is the same issue with your erstwhile online autobiography. It was hilarous - I only read a few lines over a few chapters and it drove me totally nuts. I'm glad you are over those experiences but its the same thing you have switched one narrative for another. I can't seem to remember the incredible narrative of your biography, I have to say you have a highly fantasized, imaginative mind - but you have this
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Yes, Barry doesn't see beyond his little pee-pee very often. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Dripping with your glorious sense of your self, you have not one constructive comment in this long, masturbatory rant of yours, you twit. It is all about YOU, and how YOU don't like this, and how YOU talked with Curtis about it, and how YOU don't have time for it. Exactly the way he reacted to Robin, attacking Robin for not writing things that interested *Barry*. (And this, his first post to Robin, was a comment on something Robin had written *to Rick* in a discussion *they* were having, believe it or not.) Interestingly, re Barry and Curtis purportedly deciding they didn't want to interface with 'bots any longer, very shortly after Barry's attack on Robin, Curtis and Robin embarked on probably the most prolonged and fascinating interfacing we've seen on FFL (although it didn't end well, but that didn't have anything to do with what Barry found unacceptable about Robin). Newsflash: Who gives a shit? If you don't have another way to say what Rory has said, than you are clearly out of your depth, once again. You are one of the least creative people on here. You don't create anything, except these rants of yours. A critic is all you are. As Ann has said before, twice, sometimes you just need to go and fuck off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? Please don't take this as a total slam, or a declaration that I don't like you. I do. I'm still available for discussions about real-world things we both might like, such as movies or TV or good food or just humor. It's just that I've learned my lesson about interfacing with you on issues of belief or supposed states of conscious- ness or whatever. You have a tendency to drop into what Curtis may have called NLP 'bot-speak when talking about such things. I'd term it more spiritual teacher schtick. But either way, I have neither respect for it, nor the patience to endure it. I've heard the same schtick from so many people -- both teachers and students -- over the years that for me it's like trying to have a conversation with ELIZA. Do you know about ELIZA? She was one of the first experiments in natural language and pseudo- AI, written at MIT during the mid-1960s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA She employed simple pattern matching to emulate the experience of talking with a psychiatrist, and to those early programmers' credit, she did a fairly good job of it. But after the first initial buzz, users soon wrote it off as what they called it, a chatterbot. That's my take on spiritual teacher schtick. It's a FORMULA. Given a question of type A, respond with a corresponding answer, always designed to perpetuate the idea that the teacher is in charge and wiser than the person being spoken to. It's a control mechanism. Some people seem to like that sorta thing, especially those who are searching for some guru to Beam me up, Scotty. I don't care for it much, and tend to prefer people who don't speak according to preset formulas. I am NOT suggesting that you *consciously* speak/write this way, BTW, just that you've been doing it so long that you speak/write that way out of habit. Curtis and I have had many offline discussions about this kind of spiritual schtick, and I've learned a lot from his studies of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. But the bottom line is that neither of us sees much benefit in interfacing with a 'bot any more. That said, I appreciate that your formula is mainly funny. That's a big improvement over the mean girl formulas one usually encounters here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The wavicles and particles stuff is a pretty close analogy to the properties of a photon. That's it. Not really a big challenge to see us in terms of both wave function and particle function, is it? Well, yes, it sure is for me. Human beans aren't photons. But I don't really mind Rory's odd language; I was just pointing out that a lot of it isn't TM-based. (And I've never heard TMers refer to themselves, as individuals, as Us.) And seeing everyone inside oneself is not a perception I share with Rory, except to take complete responsibility for all of my personal interactions, which is nearly the same thing. It's the bit about healing the parts of others that he holds inside himself I found egotistical. Rather than see it as a statement of ego, I see it as Rory's statement of responsibility. Having said that, I posted earlier about teaching and managing, and how both disciplines lead to creativity of expression, when trying to make a point. The last thing I want to do when conveying info, is use language that first needs a lot of explanation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Ravi - As Rory, said, a lot of this is shorthand, for *shared* experiences, within the context of the symptoms that Maharishi associated with each one. Some of it is, and some of it is peculiar (in both senses of the term!) to Rory, the wavicles and particles kind of stuff, as Ravi notes below.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: The wavicles and particles stuff is a pretty close analogy to the properties of a photon. That's it. Not really a big challenge to see us in terms of both wave function and particle function, is it? Well, yes, it sure is for me. Human beans aren't photons. I'll leave further comment to my wavicle/particle buddy... But I don't really mind Rory's odd language; I was just pointing out that a lot of it isn't TM-based. (And I've never heard TMers refer to themselves, as individuals, as Us.) Yep. And seeing everyone inside oneself is not a perception I share with Rory, except to take complete responsibility for all of my personal interactions, which is nearly the same thing. It's the bit about healing the parts of others that he holds inside himself I found egotistical. More conventionally, it can be understood as coming to a complete union with others, full acceptance within himself; no internal resistance. But, again, this is in terms of a context that I do not share. Rather, I go at it in terms of what Maharishi said, The world is, as you are. Very similar. Rather than see it as a statement of ego, I see it as Rory's statement of responsibility. Having said that, I posted earlier about teaching and managing, and how both disciplines lead to creativity of expression, when trying to make a point. The last thing I want to do when conveying info, is use language that first needs a lot of explanation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Ravi - As Rory, said, a lot of this is shorthand, for *shared* experiences, within the context of the symptoms that Maharishi associated with each one. Some of it is, and some of it is peculiar (in both senses of the term!) to Rory, the wavicles and particles kind of stuff, as Ravi notes below.
[FairfieldLife] From Aki's Le Havre?
Haven't seen Aki's Le Havre, yet. Had no idea Matelot is in it!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqnjYYgGzmQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Aki's Le Havre?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Haven't seen Aki's Le Havre, yet. Had no idea Matelot is in it!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqnjYYgGzmQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Havre_(film) Production[edit source | editbeta] Kaurismäki had the idea of a film about an African child who arrives in Europe three years before the production started.[5] His original intention was to set the story on the Mediterranean coast, preferably in Italy or Spain, but he had difficulties finding a suitable city. According to Kaurismäki, he drove through the whole seafront from Genoa to Holland, and eventually settled on Le Havre in northern France, which attracted him with its atmosphere and music scene.[6][7] The script was written in the summer 2009.[8] The names of several characters were chosen as homages to French film icons, such as Arletty and Jacques Becker. The name of the lead character, Marcel Marx, was inspired by Karl Marx. The character had previously appeared in Kaurismäki's 1992 film La Vie de Bohème, where he also was played by André Wilms. The character Monet was inspired by Porfiry Petrovich, the detective from Fyodor Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.[7]
[FairfieldLife] Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
[FB Share] http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http://readersupportednews.\ org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the-pesticides-america [Email This Page] http://readersupportednews.org/staf2 [add comment] http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-th\ e-pesticides-america#addcomments [Print] http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-th\ e-pesticides-america?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Mascagni reports: While the media has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported is the role that the United States has played - and continues to play - in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. [A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey)] A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey) [go to original article] http://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/thanks_for_pesticides_america/ Thanks for the Pesticides, America! By Evan Mascagni, Salon 11 August 13 fter eating a school lunch that was made with cooking oil tainted with the toxic pesticide monocrotophos, 23 Indian children were recently killed. While themedia has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/bihar-school-deaths-highlight\ -indias-struggle-with-pesticides/?_r=1 in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported isthe role that the United States has played and continues to play in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. Monocrotophos is an organophosphorus insecticide developed http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Actives/monocrot.htm by Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) and first registered for use in the United States in 1965.Shortly thereafter, it was discovered to be extremely toxic, and was linked http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/07/india-dead-children-and-a-dan\ gerous-pesticide/ to massive bee die-offs, thousands of bird deaths and extreme risks to human health and the environment. This ultimately led the Environmental Protection Agency to restrictand eventually banits use in 1989 http://www.fao.org/docrep/w5715e/w5715e04.htm . But, even though monocrotophos was prohibited for use domestically, corporations were permitted to continue making the chemical for export only. In fact, in the five years after this insecticide was banned in the U.S., more than 1 million pounds were exported from U.S. ports http://fasenet.org/pesticide.html , often arriving in some of the poorest countries in the world. This practice was and continues to be allowed under the federal law http://www.epa.gov/oppfead1/international/trade/ that states, pesticides that are not approved or registered for use in the U.S. may be manufactured in the U.S. and exported. In what became the ultimate irony, after the U.S. banned monocrotophos but continued to export it, traces of the chemical were found on produce imported back into the country. The U.S. General Accounting Office examined results of tests on imported produce for traces of unregistered pesticides between 1989-91, and monocrotophos accounted for 69 of the 88 violations http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/toxins/profiles/monocrotopho\ s.html it discovered.This finding completed what David Weir and Mark Schapiro originally called http://books.google.com/books/about/Circle_of_Poison.html?id=Ho4ZiTa2fR\ QC the Circle of Poison,in which banned pesticides first harm American workers who help produce them for export, then travel abroad where they are routinely sprayed on workers in the fields and nearby communities, and ultimately return to the U.S. on imported food. Fast forward to 2013, where under current U.S. law it is still perfectly legal for a company to manufacture monocrotophos for export only. While current export data is difficult and costly to obtain and analyze, we do know that for some reason monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States, but not for domestic use. In general, pesticides not approved for use in the United States are not allowed to be imported for use in the United States, but if that pesticide is coming into the U.S. for the sole purpose of formulation or packaging for export, its arrival is permitted http://www.epa.gov/PR_Notices/pr99-1.html . Whether it's for formulation, packaging or just a pit stop before ultimately landing somewhere else in the world, U.S. Customs and Census import data http://www.census.gov/econ/overview/mt0100.html for 2013 shows that monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States. The deaths of the 23 Indian schoolchildren happened more
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
Here America means the West in general --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: [FB Share] org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the-pesticides-america [Email This Page] [add comment] e-pesticides-america#addcomments [Print] e-pesticides-america?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Mascagni reports: While the media has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported is the role that the United States has played - and continues to play - in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. [A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey)] A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey) [go to original article] Thanks for the Pesticides, America! By Evan Mascagni, Salon 11 August 13 fter eating a school lunch that was made with cooking oil tainted with the toxic pesticide monocrotophos, 23 Indian children were recently killed. While themedia has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals -indias-struggle-with-pesticides/?_r=1 in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported isthe role that the United States has played and continues to play in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. Monocrotophos is an organophosphorus insecticide developed by Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) and first registered for use in the United States in 1965.Shortly thereafter, it was discovered to be extremely toxic, and was linked gerous-pesticide/ to massive bee die-offs, thousands of bird deaths and extreme risks to human health and the environment. This ultimately led the Environmental Protection Agency to restrictand eventually banits use in 1989 . But, even though monocrotophos was prohibited for use domestically, corporations were permitted to continue making the chemical for export only. In fact, in the five years after this insecticide was banned in the U.S., more than 1 million pounds were exported from U.S. ports , often arriving in some of the poorest countries in the world. This practice was and continues to be allowed under the federal law that states, pesticides that are not approved or registered for use in the U.S. may be manufactured in the U.S. and exported. In what became the ultimate irony, after the U.S. banned monocrotophos but continued to export it, traces of the chemical were found on produce imported back into the country. The U.S. General Accounting Office examined results of tests on imported produce for traces of unregistered pesticides between 1989-91, and monocrotophos accounted for 69 of the 88 violations s.html it discovered.This finding completed what David Weir and Mark Schapiro originally called QC the Circle of Poison,in which banned pesticides first harm American workers who help produce them for export, then travel abroad where they are routinely sprayed on workers in the fields and nearby communities, and ultimately return to the U.S. on imported food. Fast forward to 2013, where under current U.S. law it is still perfectly legal for a company to manufacture monocrotophos for export only. While current export data is difficult and costly to obtain and analyze, we do know that for some reason monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States, but not for domestic use. In general, pesticides not approved for use in the United States are not allowed to be imported for use in the United States, but if that pesticide is coming into the U.S. for the sole purpose of formulation or packaging for export, its arrival is permitted . Whether it's for formulation, packaging or just a pit stop before ultimately landing somewhere else in the world, U.S. Customs and Census import data for 2013 shows that monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States. The deaths of the 23 Indian schoolchildren happened more than twenty years after the pesticide's ban in the United States. It's time to reexamine our archaic export laws on chemicals not approved for use in the United States. Until we do so, we remain a crucial player in continuing the circle of poison. http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the\ \ -pesticides-america e-pesticides-america
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Nephew Ravi why ranteth on so? You're always and ever a part of the show. Now as for a ciggie, just say no! Why appear out of nowhere then spit at that man? We know that you do this, we know that you can. Now close those doll eyes and return to the void, Before Ravi awakens and gets REAL annoyed. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemaister@...  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
turquoise Bee, why buzzeth on so? Funny Farm Lounge is good tantric show. The yin and the yang can now REALLY flow, since we left behind the effed status quo! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 1:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
You could be right, Michael, but why take the chance? From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word Nisagardatta smoked all the time, it won't hurt Ravi anymore than it did Niss. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word Nephew Ravi why ranteth on so? You're always and ever a part of the show. Now as for a ciggie, just say no! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemais...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle with intricate patterns, reported yesterday
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Thanks for the Pesticides, America! Mascagni reports: While the media has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported is the role that the United States has played - and continues to play - in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey) Thanks for the Pesticides, America! By Evan Mascagni, Salon 11 August 13 fter eating a school lunch that was made with cooking oil tainted with the toxic pesticide monocrotophos, 23 Indian children were recently killed. While themedia has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported isthe role that the United States has played — and continues to play — in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. Monocrotophos is an organophosphorus insecticide developed by Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) and first registered for use in the United States in 1965.Shortly thereafter, it was discovered to be extremely toxic, and was linked to massive bee die-offs, thousands of bird deaths and extreme risks to human health and the environment. This ultimately led the Environmental Protection Agency to restrictand eventually banits use in 1989. But, even though monocrotophos was prohibited for use domestically, corporations were permitted to continue making the chemical for export only. In fact, in the five years after this insecticide was banned in the U.S., more than 1 million pounds were exported from U.S. ports, often arriving in some of the poorest countries in the world. This practice was and continues to be allowed under the federal law that states, pesticides that are not approved — or registered — for use in the U.S. may be manufactured in the U.S. and exported. In what became the ultimate irony, after the U.S. banned monocrotophos but continued to export it, traces of the chemical were found on produce imported back into the country. The U.S. General Accounting Office examined results of tests on imported produce for traces of unregistered pesticides between 1989-91, and monocrotophos accounted for 69 of the 88 violations it discovered.This finding completed what David Weir and Mark Schapiro originally called the Circle of Poison,in which banned pesticides first harm American workers who help produce them for export, then travel abroad where they are routinely sprayed on workers in the fields and nearby communities, and ultimately return to the U.S. on imported food. Fast forward to 2013, where under current U.S. law it is still perfectly legal for a company to manufacture monocrotophos for export only. While current export data is difficult and costly to obtain and analyze, we do know that for some reason monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States, but not for domestic use. In general, pesticides not approved for use in the United States are not allowed to be imported for use in the United States, but if that pesticide is coming into the U.S. for the sole purpose of formulation or packaging for export, its arrival is permitted. Whether it's for formulation, packaging or just a pit stop before ultimately landing somewhere else in the world, U.S. Customs and Census import data for 2013 shows that monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States. The deaths of the 23 Indian schoolchildren happened more than twenty years after the pesticide's ban in the United States. It's time to reexamine our archaic export laws on chemicals not approved for use in the United States. Until we do so, we remain a crucial player in continuing the circle of poison. http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the-pesticides-america
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Two outgoing energies and one incoming. You may choose which ones Share :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: turquoise Bee, why buzzeth on so? Funny Farm Lounge is good tantric show. The yin and the yang can now REALLY flow, since we left behind the effed status quo! When posting limits you do remove Existing low standards do not improve If 'twas self-important ego-babble before 'Tis still and ever, only now much more :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it.
[FairfieldLife] Tom Catton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/12/2013
blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif published 08/12/2013 186. Tom Catton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=9a16f5a0afe=16e07f16fe Aug 11, 2013 11:54 am | Rick Tom Catton has been in long-term recovery since October 20, 1971. His story appears in a twelve-step fellowship text with more than seven million copies in circulation around the world. Tom is invited to speak in the US and internationally … Continue reading http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=79fe450632e=16e07f16fe → The post 186. Tom Catton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=d43879a30de=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=5b6c44bd09e=16e07f16fe . comments http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c09e0dc6cde=16e07f16fe | read more http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=3fbd42840fe=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2cfe2c28aae=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4633c74639e=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=00b5550a42e=16e07f16fe http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/frond.gif Elsewhere * http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c84e22d77ae=16e07f16fe Visit My Blog * http://us2.forward-to-friend1.com/forward?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=af70e5f58fe=16e07f16fe Share This with a friend * http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=92453b3a52e=16e07f16fe Follow me on Twitter * http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=cd9716db62e=16e07f16fe RSS feed http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/shim.gif view email in a browser http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=af70e5f58fe=16e07f16fe Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com. Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Add us to your address book http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a Copyright (C) 2013 Buddha at the Gas Pump All rights reserved. http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5afl=1 http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=af70e5f58fe=16e07f16fe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
The yin and the yang, the high and the low, They're all a part of life's one tantric show, this Uncle Tantra surely must know! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: turquoise Bee, why buzzeth on so? Funny Farm Lounge is good tantric show. The yin and the yang can now REALLY flow, since we left behind the effed status quo! When posting limits you do remove Existing low standards do not improve If 'twas self-important ego-babble before 'Tis still and ever, only now much more :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Thank you to both you guys for this heartfelt exchange (-: From: RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Maharishi had to say that thing, 2-3 years, 6-8 years and so on. If he told the truth, how many of those hippies would continue TM ? Ha! Well, Nabby, I don't know; you may well be right! :-) R: And secondly from my own appreciation once Awakening that wholeness, Awakening, is so blatantly obvious that it would generally take only a whisper to show anyone what they might perchance be overlooking. While this has on occasion been true, more often than not it has taken far more than a single whisper, and more often than not has proved to be -- for now -- downright impossible... :-) N: That's what I loved about your previous posts also Rory, not understanding a thing of what you were saying exactly yet having a ring of rememberance about it. Like a whisper about something one cannot quite grasp but knows to be there somewhere. It's a gift, I love you for being able to use language in that way ! Nabby, Thank You. I love You so much! You move me to tears when You say this. Your heart is so beautiful; your appreciation is so beautiful! Absolutely stunning. You make so-called ignorance such a thing of beauty that it makes it all worthwhile! Thank you so much for reminding me of the exquisite delights of the final approach of a pure Soul into Us...OM TAT SAT!
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: No, I was just riffing off what Curtis had said. Sure, Rory's language can be a bit out there, but the guy's got an enviable degree of inner peace and equanimity, and it's very strange to see him, of all people, attract such vituperation. I ain't got no vituperatin' goin' on. Even though I AM a Mean Girl. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Ah ha ha.  That was *you* Alex, that said that, no?  You'd better make sure you get over to Rory's palace at the earliest next opportunity to soothe the rough edges out - perhaps bring him a hangover concoction/remedy from that kitchen of yours - hopefully nothing that separates on the way over.  From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: I know what he's saying too. It comes across to me as egotistical. And phony as a three-dollar bill. (I'm sure *he* thinks it's true, but that's the egotism, IMHO.) OK, phony too, Judy! Thanks. You are very generous with the offerings today. Now it appears you may somewhat agree with Curtis, who saw me as a Neurolinguistic-programming, form-running charlatan. This is indeed a day to remember. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/324398
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, there's an acupressure point that in the past has helped subside cookie cravings in me. In EFT it's called the Karate Chop point because it's that part of the hand you'd use to do a karate chop. Anyway, in Traditional Chinese Medicine it's associated with the small intestine. When a cigarette craving comes up, you can tap the 2 Karate Chop points against each other and say whatever comes to mind. The more spontaneous you are, the better. When I was doing it, I'd simply say out loud how much I wanted those cookies, over and over. And then the craving went away (-: Share likes to press the spots hurting the most, Why would she feel this is helpful to post? Continually harping on quitting the smokes, All she is doing is annoying us folks. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Yes dear thank you, I gave up for a year in my twenties, cold turkey as well and yeah been hungry as hell today but not a problem - I will make it. I do want to quit. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  Hey, Ravi, in my twenties I smoked for 8 years, got up to a pack and a half a day, quit cold turkey, gained 30 pounds, never had or wanted another cigarette. Good luck with it. Perfect to go for discipline while Saturn is exalted I think. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Pipe is usually about a two month stint. Then I put it away. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sure it is relaxing - as I was telling someone it's just not nicotine but the sensory experience and the whole ritual that goes with it. It's a long habit for me now. I think I'm taking in more nicotine with the e-cigarette, the starter pack has high nicotine and I used to smoke ultra-lights. So anyone I will get the lighter version and eventually zero nicotine. E-cigs aren't same as cigarettes sensory wise but pretty close and if I just mindlessly emulate my ritual with the e-cig I should be fine. Anyway I hope you don't start the pipe Steve, you may regret :-) On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** Funny. I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again. Help deal with stress in general. Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed. It has been a very mild summer, weather-wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and I'm on e-cigarettes starting today :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory Jim's philosophy - as simple as that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other agenda, no interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling Barry's paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) - though it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded spamming but nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they are making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something interesting, something authentic and real. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please, don't you start--at least not when this is only the third day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm down in a few days. BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several that I found of interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is there is nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of Rory, Jim talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions from Share to them you see. I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the same game at
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352762
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Silly Ann, it's not that the Karate Chop point hurts! Duh! From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, there's an acupressure point that in the past has helped subside cookie cravings in me. In EFT it's called the Karate Chop point because it's that part of the hand you'd use to do a karate chop. Anyway, in Traditional Chinese Medicine it's associated with the small intestine. When a cigarette craving comes up, you can tap the 2 Karate Chop points against each other and say whatever comes to mind. The more spontaneous you are, the better. When I was doing it, I'd simply say out loud how much I wanted those cookies, over and over. And then the craving went away (-: Share likes to press the spots hurting the most, Why would she feel this is helpful to post? Continually harping on quitting the smokes, All she is doing is annoying us folks. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Yes dear thank you, I gave up for a year in my twenties, cold turkey as well and yeah been hungry as hell today but not a problem - I will make it. I do want to quit. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  Hey, Ravi, in my twenties I smoked for 8 years, got up to a pack and a half a day, quit cold turkey, gained 30 pounds, never had or wanted another cigarette. Good luck with it. Perfect to go for discipline while Saturn is exalted I think. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Pipe is usually about a two month stint. Then I put it away. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sure it is relaxing - as I was telling someone it's just not nicotine but the sensory experience and the whole ritual that goes with it. It's a long habit for me now. I think I'm taking in more nicotine with the e-cigarette, the starter pack has high nicotine and I used to smoke ultra-lights. So anyone I will get the lighter version and eventually zero nicotine. E-cigs aren't same as cigarettes sensory wise but pretty close and if I just mindlessly emulate my ritual with the e-cig I should be fine. Anyway I hope you don't start the pipe Steve, you may regret :-) On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** Funny. I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again. Help deal with stress in general. Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed. It has been a very mild summer, weather-wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and I'm on e-cigarettes starting today :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory Jim's philosophy - as simple as that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other agenda, no interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling Barry's paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) - though it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded spamming but nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they are making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something interesting, something authentic and real. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please, don't you start--at least not when this is only the third day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm down in a few days. BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several that I found of interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is there is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
But emptybill, where is the knower in your definition? Certainly the phrase act of knowing implies a knower. But can the knower accurately be described in an implied state? From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators The word conscious-ness means a state, a quality, a condition or a degree of being conscious. It is from the Latin prefix com-/con- meaning together with and the root scire meaning to know. It signifies the pairing between an act of knowing and a known object. CC, GC, UC are just terms that were made up. Shankara only talked about YouSee --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Hi Share, The identity finally matures enough, to incorporate UC, along with GC and CC and all the other stuff. So you kind of end up back where you started, only understanding and witnessing the dynamics of all seven SOC, this time around. Because CC, GC, and UC are completely formed within you, all those simultaneous capabilities; 24/7 silent witness, perception of all relative phenomena, clearly, and the experience that we are in continuous union, are always available. Only, of course the sum is greater than its parts. So after all the tapas, sadhana, seeking and searching, the relaxed, invincible personality that you always wanted, and already have when you are feeling really, really good, takes over. This can be confusing in the midst of seeking, when even falling in love can be double and triple guessed. MMY's reply about marriage is spot on! Common sense rules. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks, Doc, someone asked Maharishi once if a person in Unity could marry anyone. First Maharishi laughed and then to paraphrase, he explained that differences don't disappear in Unity, they simply don't dominate. When you say from UC the identity will shift, I guess you mean it will shift at the end of UC? From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators  Hi Share, it is a difference in identity. In UC it is still all about *me* and *you*, and how *I* am so much in union with *you*. So although fusion is taking place, it is wrt the experience of *me* in Unity. Ego tripping at its best. From UC, the identity will shift. Make sense? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Rory, I don't understand this at all. I thought that in Unity one is one with all. How could that possible mean being lord of all? Could it not be that people remain in Unity for decades because there is one heck of a lot of integrating going on? From: RoryGoff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators  Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental integration, for that length of time - unbelievable. Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, but because they stop making sense, overall, which is different. And since water flows downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits the moment. There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, encompassing potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC). Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. After that, it smooths out - lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: I am not sure he
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Nephew Ravi why ranteth on so? You're always and ever a part of the show. Now as for a ciggie, just say no! Why appear out of nowhere then spit at that man? We know that you do this, we know that you can. Now close those doll eyes and return to the void, Before Ravi awakens and gets REAL annoyed. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  OMG card - you don't get it. Obba was just riffing off my responses, being funny, doing it intentionally, mocking, making fun of the spam - Jim, Share and Rory's spam over the last few days. 2013/8/12 card cardemaister@...  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Sanjaya dhR^itarAShTra *uvAcha* dharmakShetre kurukShetre samavetA yuyutsavaH . mAmakAH pANDavAshchaiva kimakurvata **sa~njaya** ..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Alex, I see now - there were enough who attributed it to Curtis that I figured I must be mistaken. I think the reaction to Rory has to do with how long he's been gone - that's how much he's been missed. Signed, Emily the positive idealist. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning No, I was just riffing off what Curtis had said. Sure, Rory's language can be a bit out there, but the guy's got an enviable degree of inner peace and equanimity, and it's very strange to see him, of all people, attract such vituperation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Ah ha ha.  That was *you* Alex, that said that, no?  You'd better make sure you get over to Rory's palace at the earliest next opportunity to soothe the rough edges out - perhaps bring him a hangover concoction/remedy from that kitchen of yours - hopefully nothing that separates on the way over.  From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: I know what he's saying too. It comes across to me as egotistical. And phony as a three-dollar bill. (I'm sure *he* thinks it's true, but that's the egotism, IMHO.) OK, phony too, Judy! Thanks. You are very generous with the offerings today. Now it appears you may somewhat agree with Curtis, who saw me as a Neurolinguistic-programming, form-running charlatan. This is indeed a day to remember. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/324398
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
That was actually a perfect example of BarryDharma at work. Remember the hilarious Ju-dy, Ju-dy YouTube video that Alex posted, referring to Barry's state of mind, and which Barry sadly admitted WAS funny? Contrasting with his usual ass kissing when engaging the FFL Moderators, Barry's droll and unsympathetic reply to Alex, was, Payback Time - lol, from Barry's inexhaustible lack of self-esteem, straight up into Alex's grill. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Share's issues with food Affect her mood She cannot resist She cannot desist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, there's an acupressure point that in the past has helped subside cookie cravings in me. In EFT it's called the Karate Chop point because it's that part of the hand you'd use to do a karate chop. Anyway, in Traditional Chinese Medicine it's associated with the small intestine. When a cigarette craving comes up, you can tap the 2 Karate Chop points against each other and say whatever comes to mind. The more spontaneous you are, the better. When I was doing it, I'd simply say out loud how much I wanted those cookies, over and over. And then the craving went away (-: Share likes to press the spots hurting the most, Why would she feel this is helpful to post? Continually harping on quitting the smokes, All she is doing is annoying us folks. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Yes dear thank you, I gave up for a year in my twenties, cold turkey as well and yeah been hungry as hell today but not a problem - I will make it. I do want to quit. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:  Hey, Ravi, in my twenties I smoked for 8 years, got up to a pack and a half a day, quit cold turkey, gained 30 pounds, never had or wanted another cigarette. Good luck with it. Perfect to go for discipline while Saturn is exalted I think. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Pipe is usually about a two month stint. Then I put it away. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sure it is relaxing - as I was telling someone it's just not nicotine but the sensory experience and the whole ritual that goes with it. It's a long habit for me now. I think I'm taking in more nicotine with the e-cigarette, the starter pack has high nicotine and I used to smoke ultra-lights. So anyone I will get the lighter version and eventually zero nicotine. E-cigs aren't same as cigarettes sensory wise but pretty close and if I just mindlessly emulate my ritual with the e-cig I should be fine. Anyway I hope you don't start the pipe Steve, you may regret :-) On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** Funny. I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again. Help deal with stress in general. Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed. It has been a very mild summer, weather-wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and I'm on e-cigarettes starting today :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory Jim's philosophy - as simple as that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other agenda, no interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling Barry's paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) - though it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded spamming but nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they are making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something interesting, something authentic and real. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please, don't you start--at least not when this is only the third day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm down in a few days. BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several that I found of interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging. But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can fucking shut up for the rest of the week we will be
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
tee hee, eating scrambled eggs with tumeric, yum! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning Share's issues with food Affect her mood She cannot resist She cannot desist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, there's an acupressure point that in the past has helped subside cookie cravings in me. In EFT it's called the Karate Chop point because it's that part of the hand you'd use to do a karate chop. Anyway, in Traditional Chinese Medicine it's associated with the small intestine. When a cigarette craving comes up, you can tap the 2 Karate Chop points against each other and say whatever comes to mind. The more spontaneous you are, the better. When I was doing it, I'd simply say out loud how much I wanted those cookies, over and over. And then the craving went away (-: Share likes to press the spots hurting the most, Why would she feel this is helpful to post? Continually harping on quitting the smokes, All she is doing is annoying us folks. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Yes dear thank you, I gave up for a year in my twenties, cold turkey as well and yeah been hungry as hell today but not a problem - I will make it. I do want to quit. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:  Hey, Ravi, in my twenties I smoked for 8 years, got up to a pack and a half a day, quit cold turkey, gained 30 pounds, never had or wanted another cigarette. Good luck with it. Perfect to go for discipline while Saturn is exalted I think. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  Pipe is usually about a two month stint. Then I put it away. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sure it is relaxing - as I was telling someone it's just not nicotine but the sensory experience and the whole ritual that goes with it. It's a long habit for me now. I think I'm taking in more nicotine with the e-cigarette, the starter pack has high nicotine and I used to smoke ultra-lights. So anyone I will get the lighter version and eventually zero nicotine. E-cigs aren't same as cigarettes sensory wise but pretty close and if I just mindlessly emulate my ritual with the e-cig I should be fine. Anyway I hope you don't start the pipe Steve, you may regret :-) On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** Funny. I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again. Help deal with stress in general. Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed. It has been a very mild summer, weather-wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and I'm on e-cigarettes starting today :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory Jim's philosophy - as simple as that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other agenda, no interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling Barry's paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) - though it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded spamming but nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they are making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something interesting, something authentic and real. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please, don't you start--at least not when this is only the third day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm down in a few days. BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several that I found of interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
The US has the greatest influence in the world, of any country. Unfortunately, that means when we have a bad idea, it spreads. When living in SE Asia, I had DDT sprayed into my bedroom every night for five years, late 50's, early 60's, for mosquito eradication. Thankfully no long term health effects for me. Also used to drink a lot of untreated water. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: [FB Share] http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http://readersupportednews.\ org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the-pesticides-america [Email This Page] http://readersupportednews.org/staf2 [add comment] http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-th\ e-pesticides-america#addcomments [Print] http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-th\ e-pesticides-america?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Mascagni reports: While the media has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported is the role that the United States has played - and continues to play - in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. [A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey)] A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey) [go to original article] http://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/thanks_for_pesticides_america/ Thanks for the Pesticides, America! By Evan Mascagni, Salon 11 August 13 fter eating a school lunch that was made with cooking oil tainted with the toxic pesticide monocrotophos, 23 Indian children were recently killed. While themedia has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/bihar-school-deaths-highlight\ -indias-struggle-with-pesticides/?_r=1 in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported isthe role that the United States has played and continues to play in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. Monocrotophos is an organophosphorus insecticide developed http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Actives/monocrot.htm by Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) and first registered for use in the United States in 1965.Shortly thereafter, it was discovered to be extremely toxic, and was linked http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/07/india-dead-children-and-a-dan\ gerous-pesticide/ to massive bee die-offs, thousands of bird deaths and extreme risks to human health and the environment. This ultimately led the Environmental Protection Agency to restrictand eventually banits use in 1989 http://www.fao.org/docrep/w5715e/w5715e04.htm . But, even though monocrotophos was prohibited for use domestically, corporations were permitted to continue making the chemical for export only. In fact, in the five years after this insecticide was banned in the U.S., more than 1 million pounds were exported from U.S. ports http://fasenet.org/pesticide.html , often arriving in some of the poorest countries in the world. This practice was and continues to be allowed under the federal law http://www.epa.gov/oppfead1/international/trade/ that states, pesticides that are not approved or registered for use in the U.S. may be manufactured in the U.S. and exported. In what became the ultimate irony, after the U.S. banned monocrotophos but continued to export it, traces of the chemical were found on produce imported back into the country. The U.S. General Accounting Office examined results of tests on imported produce for traces of unregistered pesticides between 1989-91, and monocrotophos accounted for 69 of the 88 violations http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/toxins/profiles/monocrotopho\ s.html it discovered.This finding completed what David Weir and Mark Schapiro originally called http://books.google.com/books/about/Circle_of_Poison.html?id=Ho4ZiTa2fR\ QC the Circle of Poison,in which banned pesticides first harm American workers who help produce them for export, then travel abroad where they are routinely sprayed on workers in the fields and nearby communities, and ultimately return to the U.S. on imported food. Fast forward to 2013, where under current U.S. law it is still perfectly legal for a company to manufacture monocrotophos for export only. While current export data is difficult and costly to obtain and analyze, we do know that for some reason monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States, but not for domestic use. In general, pesticides not approved for use in the United States are not allowed to be imported for use in the United
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. No I didn't. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. You are gravely mistaken if you believe that all the points you raise here are of interest. That is a misunderstanding of how important your points are. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: And it didn't end because 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, and 2)Some people here actually have a job and friends and dog (!) to be with and simply don't bother to answer every little point you raise, and 3) Some people here might also be disinterested in endless discussions without an end. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352762
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
OMG - don't give Share any ideas now. Take care Share. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's...
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle with intricate patterns, reported yesterday
Are the Space Brothers Jewish? Or are they protesting the building of more illegal settlements in Palestine? Damn their alien inscrutability! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: * Order your Access Pass here http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/crop-circle-access-pass/order-access-pa\ ss/ * How can I get one? http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/crop-circle-access-pass/how-can-i-get-o\ ne/ * Why is an Access Pass needed? http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/crop-circle-access-pass/why-is-an-acces\ s-pass-needed/ * How did the Access Pass come into being? http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/crop-circle-access-pass/how-did-the-acc\ ess-pass-come-into-being/ * Where does the money go to? http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/crop-circle-access-pass/where-does-the-\ money-go-to/ As usual, there was no mud or broken straws in the Crop Circle when it was first discovered. Contact http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/contact/ Go to Latest Crop Circle Reports -Wiltshire Map -Report a new formation Information Centre -About -Who we are -Services -Interesting links -Places we recommend Access Pass -Order your Access Pass here -How can I get one? -Why is an Access Pass needed? -How did the Access Pass come into being? -Where does the money go to? Mobile App News -Media Contact Wiltshire 11 August Home http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/ Latest Crop Circle Reports http://www.cropcircleaccess.com/latest-crop-circle-reports/ Wiltshire 11 August [Silbury Hill] http://7w3mj9vpft3f5u5i3s02d7p9b.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/upl\ oads/sites/11/2013/08/Wiltshire-Crop-Circle-11-August-2013.png
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Ha, don't be a Rhesus Candy causes cancer, didn't you know? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: are you sayin' there's a bag of reeses pieces, in da medicine cabinet, Jee-Sus! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
are you sayin' there's a bag of reeses pieces, in da medicine cabinet, Jee-Sus! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's... Good Lord, Alex. I'd like to have not see that.
[FairfieldLife] The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The 2nd Verse, Second Word
Krishna
[FairfieldLife] The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The 2nd Verse, First word
Lord
[FairfieldLife] The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The 2nd Verse, Third word
said
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's... Good Lord, Alex. That's the worst looking pecker I've ever seen. Next time use Astroglide.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's... Good Lord, Alex. That's the worst looking pecker I've ever seen. Next time use Astroglide. Are you talking about pro-bono?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Ha, don't be a Rhesus Candy causes cancer, didn't you know? There goes the trick or treating! No wonder everyone is growing up and dying of cancer 40 years plus later! OMG :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: are you sayin' there's a bag of reeses pieces, in da medicine cabinet, Jee-Sus! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
more tee hee, just had organic, roasted almond butter with rainforest stevia for dessert, totally yummy, in my tummy, no need for toast and jam, nor even green eggs and ham! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
huh? From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning OMG - don't give Share any ideas now. Take care Share. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's...
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's... Good Lord, Alex. That's the worst looking pecker I've ever seen. Next time use Astroglide. Are you talking about pro-bono? Nope. Rory is pro-bono. I'm Pro-Boner.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Share, I look forward to hearing about the details of every meal you partake in on your next vacation. And be sure to ask Steve about every meal he partook in during his latest trip. Revel in his sinfulness and keep the fantasy alive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: more tee hee, just had organic, roasted almond butter with rainforest stevia for dessert, totally yummy, in my tummy, no need for toast and jam, nor even green eggs and ham! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Share. Share, your head turns like Linda Blair, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M the sugar turns into might! Almond breath on top of the rotted egg, stained with tumeric, its alright. Stevia, opps that was Salvia by mistake. The world is full of tee hee now and until it wears off. Look at Share's tummy! Yummy in the tum tum tummy! Can this make Auth gag? Can a week of prose coming out the nose, drive FFL all crazy, bad? I am there, in this way, no denying my fruitless wonder of now, where or where when Shukra in Kanya, and Mangal gives fourth aspect..HOW???! If I was in this way, I would have no time to play on this word game beating gone mad. Unless by god, my door bell rings, then from this I will gladly fled? LOL The rhymes you see, are gathering he, who made --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: more tee hee, just had organic, roasted almond butter with rainforest stevia for dessert, totally yummy, in my tummy, no need for toast and jam, nor even green eggs and ham! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
Take care, Share - that was the key line in that statement. I must leave now to attend again to the state of my being. But, I'll be tuning in again to check on your progress. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: huh? From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning  OMG - don't give Share any ideas now. Take care Share. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff wrote: Do you do pro-bono work? If I make a specific appointment with someone to work with them privately, real-time, in person or by phone, then no, not any more; I am sorry! For those who are in Fairfield, I set aside most afternoons to play Bananagrams and to talk with people, and I am generally available then for free if anyone wishes to speak with me there. And we can correspond by email and facebook for free. That must be where you perfected what Curtis called your Neuro-Linguistic Programming robot- speak. Having now experienced it, I cannot help but agree with his description. :-) They fall for that stuff in Fairfield, do they? I worked with Rory a few times, and it was helpful. Similar to your incessant need to make others wrong, I constantly make myself wrong, which makes me absolutely miserable. For a while, Rory's particle/ wavicle work was able to shut down that toxic internal dialog and give me some relief. After a while, it stopped working, and that was that. Whatever floats yer boat. Said with deep understanding, empathy and usual desire to make someone feel good about themselves (not) Barry bumbles on isolating himself in an endless cycle of belligerence and self-isolation. Don't worry about me, Ann. I found a technique that works even better than Rory's...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Oh looky, I can correct without penalty! Yay! Share's head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Share. Share, your head turns like Linda Blair, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M the sugar turns into might! Almond breath on top of the rotted egg, stained with tumeric, its alright. Stevia, opps that was Salvia by mistake. The world is full of tee hee now and until it wears off. Look at Share's tummy! Yummy in the tum tum tummy! Can this make Auth gag? Can a week of prose coming out the nose, drive FFL all crazy, bad? I am there, in this way, no denying my fruitless wonder of now, where or where when Shukra in Kanya, and Mangal gives fourth aspect..HOW???! If I was in this way, I would have no time to play on this word game beating gone mad. Unless by god, my door bell rings, then from this I will gladly fled? LOL The rhymes you see, are gathering he, who made --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: more tee hee, just had organic, roasted almond butter with rainforest stevia for dessert, totally yummy, in my tummy, no need for toast and jam, nor even green eggs and ham! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
Re: [FairfieldLife] When power goes to your head...
carde, thanks for posting. I've read experts who support both sides of this question: those who say that empathy supports survival and those who say having power supports survival. What's your conclusion? From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 3:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] When power goes to your head... http://www.npr.org/2013/08/10/210686255/a-sense-of-power-can-do-a-number-on-your-brain It's rather easy to see, why that's the case from the POV of natural selection?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
Yes, you are right. My apologies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Share, I look forward to hearing about the details of every meal you partake in on your next vacation. And be sure to ask Steve about every meal he partook in during his latest trip. Revel in his sinfulness and keep the fantasy alive. Emily, please don't encourage the foodies. The really weird ones obsess on travels with food bolus from one end to the other. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: more tee hee, just had organic, roasted almond butter with rainforest stevia for dessert, totally yummy, in my tummy, no need for toast and jam, nor even green eggs and ham! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. No I didn't. You absolutely did, Nabs. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. You are gravely mistaken if you believe that all the points you raise here are of interest. It's not a matter of interest, it's that they rebutted many of the things you said. That is a misunderstanding of how important your points are. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: And it didn't end because Toots, it didn't end because I didn't bother responding to your last post. 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. and 2)Some people here actually have a job and friends and dog (!) to be with and simply don't bother to answer every little point you raise, and 3) Some people here might also be disinterested in endless discussions without an end. Nabby, don't embarrass yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Share, I look forward to hearing about the details of every meal you partake in on your next vacation. And be sure to ask Steve about every meal he partook in during his latest trip. Revel in his sinfulness and keep the fantasy alive. Emily, please don't encourage the foodies. The really weird ones obsess on travels with food bolus from one end to the other. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: more tee hee, just had organic, roasted almond butter with rainforest stevia for dessert, totally yummy, in my tummy, no need for toast and jam, nor even green eggs and ham! From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The fourth word  Share wants toast and jelly But fears for her belly She harbors self-hate And cries at her fate She must face her beast But prefers to unleash Her tirades of rhyme And continues in crime --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Dudy can't help herself so she reads, since more ammo she always needs, saving the world from dastardly deeds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Annie banannie, isn't this fun, can't help smiling when rhyming is done, now have a good snort and go for a run! Chare-Whare thinks her rhymes Should willy-nilly ring our chimes. Lamentably, she cannot fathom Why they end up being so tiresome.