Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 4:18 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: gushing gonna make you a superman kind of PR the Movement promotes them as being You're not even making any sense anymore. TM is just a relaxation technique - the rest is up to you. So you never read the Science of Being, or heard any of Marshy's lectures, or hung around with the movement generally? Go figure. Let's be logical: who would you believe? A very small group of people standing on the corner who said no big blue bus went by. Or, Another, much larger group of people, standing on the same corner, who all said that a big blue bus just drive by. Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. I think you need some time out to get straight in your mind what it is you actually think about anything Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
It's obviously fulfilling some sort of function for them, I wonder if they log off at the end of the day with a sense of satisfaction of a job well done? It reminds me of these twitter spats that go viral, someone says something vaguely contraversial and the rest of the world tries to get them to apologise. I don't know why because it would be howlingly insincere if they did, but they get badgered incessantly until they do. The point of it seems to be control, a sort of You may disagree with the herd but we'll humiliate you by getting you to publicly say something you don't believe It seems to make people feel better. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm It's obviously fulfilling some sort of function for them, I wonder if they log off at the end of the day with a sense of satisfaction of a job well done? What I wonder about is what some of them -- such as the woman who has been doing this non-stop for almost 20 years now -- will do when they log off at the end of LIFE. Will they put on their headstones: I NEVER LOST AN ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET SO THERE It reminds me of these twitter spats that go viral, someone says something vaguely contraversial and the rest of the world tries to get them to apologise. I don't know why because it would be howlingly insincere if they did, but they get badgered incessantly until they do. The point of it seems to be control, a sort of You may disagree with the herd but we'll humiliate you by getting you to publicly say something you don't believe It seems to make people feel better. Go figure. It's a control issue. And the element of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it. Or that they forced Share (or someone else they obsess about) to respond to them. Don't any of these people have LIVES? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
John, what I've heard is that in a chart, every so called negative aspect has a positive expression. As we evolve, we express the positive side of that aspect more and more. I think that's what you were saying. Did I get it right? On Monday, March 10, 2014 9:15 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: MJ, For all human beings, the national charts included, the level of the personal and national consciousness would have to be considered. The higher the level of consciousness, the better would the person or country be able to find the creative solutions to his or its problems. In essence, the level of consciousness determines the moral value or guiding principles of the person or country which could transform the way actions are done for better or worse. So, in a way, the chart can be transformed depending on the state of consciousness of the individual or nation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So does that mean that anyone no matter who would be corrupt cause it shows up in the chart? The people can't help it? On Mon, 3/10/14, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 10, 2014, 11:14 PM I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
I'd be embarrassed, too, if I was always crowing about being such an Independent Person, and all I did was sit around, when I wasn't out drinking, and watch stolen TV shows. Blows Against the Empire, eh? Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
I smell blood in the water. :-) Yes, you could put on your headstone, I was too chickenshit to have an argument on the Internet. So there. LOL - you sure ain't fooling anybody, with your ongoing passive-aggressive schtick. Better to confront someone directly, than proclaiming loudly *for the last ten years* how, you don't give a shit - That is an awfully long time to be proclaiming such a thing. If you really felt that way, you'd have shut your mouth about it, long ago. See how stupid it is, to pretend you are something that you are not? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm It's obviously fulfilling some sort of function for them, I wonder if they log off at the end of the day with a sense of satisfaction of a job well done? What I wonder about is what some of them -- such as the woman who has been doing this non-stop for almost 20 years now -- will do when they log off at the end of LIFE. Will they put on their headstones: I NEVER LOST AN ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET SO THERE It reminds me of these twitter spats that go viral, someone says something vaguely contraversial and the rest of the world tries to get them to apologise. I don't know why because it would be howlingly insincere if they did, but they get badgered incessantly until they do. The point of it seems to be control, a sort of You may disagree with the herd but we'll humiliate you by getting you to publicly say something you don't believe It seems to make people feel better. Go figure. It's a control issue. And the element of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it. Or that they forced Share (or someone else they obsess about) to respond to them. Don't any of these people have LIVES? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Judy's motto: Get your mean out! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Share watchers and CORRECTORS. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:03 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Share, you must find this amusing at this point. My God, a slow day at FFL brings out the craziness. You've heard of Kremlin watchers, or Fed watchers. Looks to me like we've got Share watchers. Dissecting every word you say. A Bevan cultist. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Notice Share's redirection...just as Emily described. Share, I wasn't there, Feste wasn't there. You and Buck were, and obviously the two of you disagree. I would take Buck's opinion over yours any day because he has a more balanced view of Bevan, whereas you're a Bevan cultist. Judy, I still say Buck is wrong about that. As I said before, Bevan went into detail about the mechanics of the TMSP. Such would not at all be helpful for meditators. On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:45 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Presumably Buck has a clue what he's talking about, and he said (see below), Nothing [Bevan] said really could not have been delivered in a public lecture and it would have been insightful about Maharishi to anyone listening and informative at any level. Guess you missed that, huh? The money issue was a minor point in context. Emily's analysis of how Share responds to any kind of challenge--by redirecting...to a state of complete meaninglessness within a comment or two--is right on target. She had also just done it in regard to Buck's comment about Bevan being a tragic figure. We've seen her do it many dozens of times, and not just with Emily. Emily's point about Share's sense of her own specialness is also highly apropos in this context. Share's reply to you makes perfect sense. You had made a statement implying that all the TM movement wants is money. Share made a succinct comment, pointing out that the meeting was free, which gives the lie to your idea. The point of the badge check is to ensure that everyone there has learned the TM sidhis. If they haven't learned them, they wouldn't know what the lecture was all about and might get some erroneous ideas, which might make it less easy for them to get it right when and if they decide to learn. It's very simple. Since you are not in the movement and never have been, you don't really have a clue what you are talking about. In contrast, Share is, and does. Share, you always end up acting mentally challenged when you engage with me. It is a very effective way to be for you. I am always impressed at your ability to actively and consistently redirect any conversation we might have to a state of complete meaninglessness within a comment or two; I find it masterful in its own way. Emily, the lecture was free. These are the key points to me: But all that said nothing he said really could not have been delivered in a public lecture and it would have been insightful about Maharishi to anyone listening and informative at any level. Tragic yes, he is a (the) guy who has ridden the whole movement down The elitist and exclusionary nature of this spiritual organization is just odd to me, an outsider. What on earth would have happened if non-badge people attended? So what? Why not just sell tickets to everyone and when the lecture is sold out, so be it. They want money, right? Share, you act like you are in some way special; I guess you've probably paid for the right to be special. You might lose this specialness if you move. Well, Buck, I was sitting by the entry door and there was only one guy checking badges as people entered and as the lecture began, late arrivals were swarming in. I'm not surprised that Bevan wanted a second badge check. It kind of reminded me of the old sidhi meetings when we checked each other's badges. Nice touch of nostalgia. On Monday, March 10, 2014 12:53 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: He gave a really good presentation showing his own and MMY's handwritten 1979 notes. It had a real nice flow. By going over his own written notes and then the hand-written and colorful notes of Maharishi's hand he got to do it twice, very teacherly. It was really a nice lecture. It would have been nice to have had that lecture a while ago. A nice thing is that he gave it at all now. If and when he dies the material like that will go with him and be lost to time. But all that said nothing he said really could not have been delivered in a public lecture and it would have been insightful about Maharishi to anyone listening and informative at any level. Of course if he was to meet any larger group gathered it would have had to be in the Sondheim Auditorium, in town. The badge check though after everyone who
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
On 3/10/2014 7:01 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, neither you or Share take yourselves or what you post seriously; I think that is what you two find so attractive about each other. Two peas in a pod. However, if posting here maintains your mental and emotional health and helps you be kind to Rita, than more power to you. Thanks for the advice, Emily, seriously.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
When you get a bladder infection, urine trouble. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: What do you call a dinosaur with an extensive vocabulary? A thesaurus. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: How do you make holy water? Boil the hell out of it! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't like my beard at first.Then it grew on me. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Energizer Bunny arrested. Charged with battery. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Class trip to a Coca-Cola factory. I hope there's no pop quiz. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/8/2014 9:23 AM, Share Long wrote: if they had reservations, wouldn't that make them hesitate? Christopher Columbus discovered the New World in 1492. When he was standing on the beach exchanging gifts, one of the native inhabitants said: But, Chris, why do you call us Indians? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Says Barry, demonstrating that he has nothing to contribute. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Opsie ooopsie ooopsie-Barry. In Nabby's case, they were me, Salyavin, and Michael. Let's see if Salyavin has the integrity to point this out to Barry. It's a control issue. And the element of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
On 3/10/2014 8:36 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yep, turning his uncle into Alpo was the *perfect* political campaign move. If I lived there, I'd cast a hundred votes for the guy, at least. You'd probably be Alpo, at least, if you cast a hundred votes for the uncle.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute? You said it pea brain.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I smell blood in the water. :-) Yes, you could put on your headstone, I was too chickenshit to have an argument on the Internet. So there. LOL - you sure ain't fooling anybody, with your ongoing passive-aggressive schtick. Better to confront someone directly, than proclaiming loudly *for the last ten years* how, you don't give a shit - That is an awfully long time to be proclaiming such a thing. If you really felt that way, you'd have shut your mouth about it, long ago. See how stupid it is, to pretend you are something that you are not? The prime example of this was him embarrassing response to Edg the other day. Talk about a guy (Bawwy) who is terrified of actually engaging in a discussion and metaphorically runs for the hills when there is an opportunity to say anything meaningful after having spit in the face of those who bother to try and engage him. All Bawwy had was lame insults, as if he was terrified of what would happen if he actually had to interact. He never does, he simply prescribes and postures and insults. That's it. That's Bawwy - a really sad old fart. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm It's obviously fulfilling some sort of function for them, I wonder if they log off at the end of the day with a sense of satisfaction of a job well done? What I wonder about is what some of them -- such as the woman who has been doing this non-stop for almost 20 years now -- will do when they log off at the end of LIFE. Will they put on their headstones: I NEVER LOST AN ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET SO THERE It reminds me of these twitter spats that go viral, someone says something vaguely contraversial and the rest of the world tries to get them to apologise. I don't know why because it would be howlingly insincere if they did, but they get badgered incessantly until they do. The point of it seems to be control, a sort of You may disagree with the herd but we'll humiliate you by getting you to publicly say something you don't believe It seems to make people feel better. Go figure. It's a control issue. And the element of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it. Or that they forced Share (or someone else they obsess about) to respond to them. Don't any of these people have LIVES? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
On 3/10/2014 8:43 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, we do not take your posts seriously per your instructions. The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of internet etiquette. Judy posted a lie about me, CALLING ME A TROLL, in order to try to get others to shun me, that's been her whole purpose in posting to FFL from her very first posting years ago. She recruited you to do the same to Barry, to try to get rid of him, that's my point. It's a very low down tactic on discussion groups to call someone a troll when they've been posting for over ten years. It makes Judy look like a very hateful person, full of grudges, and not a fair or truthful person at all - instead she comes off like an angry, vindictive old bully. Go figure. If something is not to be taken seriously does this mean it can ever be a meaningful contribution? It's just kind of sad to realize that Judy is in fact, the poser here. She is not helping anyone, so far as I can tell, to understand the mechanics of consciousness. Judy is NOT a spiritual teacher. Her sole purpose is to distract and discredit and belittle, in order to inflate her own ego. that's what I think. Seriously. (Don't pay any attention to Richard, for pete's sake. He's just trolling, as usual.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
What he'll never tell you is that he used to argue, frequently, enthusiastically, and at length. Trouble was, he was incompetent at it. His arguments had the same gross deficiencies his solo rants do today: illogical, factually inaccurate, lazy, sloppy thinking, painfully shallow--and these deficiencies were repeatedly pointed out by those he tried to argue with. He became a constant embarrassment to himself. Finally it dawned on him that he'd be better off not arguing at all. And to cover his tail, he invented the Don't give a shit and Just my opinion mantras and the whole silly story about how arguing, and those who argue, are low vibe. He hides behind them to this day. I smell blood in the water. :-) Yes, you could put on your headstone, I was too chickenshit to have an argument on the Internet. So there. LOL - you sure ain't fooling anybody, with your ongoing passive-aggressive schtick. Better to confront someone directly, than proclaiming loudly *for the last ten years* how, you don't give a shit - That is an awfully long time to be proclaiming such a thing. If you really felt that way, you'd have shut your mouth about it, long ago. See how stupid it is, to pretend you are something that you are not? What I wonder about is what some of them -- such as the woman who has been doing this non-stop for almost 20 years now -- will do when they log off at the end of LIFE. Will they put on their headstones: I NEVER LOST AN ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET SO THERE It reminds me of these twitter spats that go viral, someone says something vaguely contraversial and the rest of the world tries to get them to apologise. I don't know why because it would be howlingly insincere if they did, but they get badgered incessantly until they do. The point of it seems to be control, a sort of You may disagree with the herd but we'll humiliate you by getting you to publicly say something you don't believe It seems to make people feel better. Go figure. It's a control issue. And the element of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it. Or that they forced Share (or someone else they obsess about) to respond to them. Don't any of these people have LIVES? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Reading your posts these days is like visiting a mental hospital. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/10/2014 8:52 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: And by the way, what statement did Emily make that implied the TM movement is money grubbing? Where I come from, silence indicates agreement. MJ has posted this money grubbing by the TM movement smear numerous times, even to the point of spending days authoring a hit piece for John Knapp's TM-Free blog. The only objections to this false accusation were posted by Share, Buck, and Feste. It looks like Emily has bought into the lie too. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Pretty Cool Mechanics
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 8:43 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Richard,we do not take your posts seriously per your instructions. The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of internet etiquette. Judy posted a lie about me, CALLING ME A TROLL, in order to try to get others to shun me, that's been her whole purpose in posting to FFL from her very first posting years ago. She recruited you to do the same to Barry, to try to get rid of him, that's my point. It's a very low down tactic on discussion groups to call someone a troll when they've been posting for over ten years. It makes Judy look like a very hateful person, full of grudges, and not a fair or truthful person at all - instead she comes off like an angry, vindictive old bully. Go figure. You're trolling here. But then we all know not to take you seriously, especially when you tell us to, which you seem to be doing more and more. But your posts speak for themselves and someone today just referred to reading your posts as equivalent to visiting a mental institution. Go think about that for a split second or two, pundit. If something is not to be taken seriously does this mean it can ever be a meaningful contribution? It's just kind of sad to realize that Judy is in fact, the poser here. She is not helping anyone, so far as I can tell, to understand the mechanics of consciousness. Judy is NOT a spiritual teacher. Her sole purpose is to distract and discredit and belittle, in order to inflate her own ego. that's what I think. Seriously. Seriously? Guffaw. It's time to take your meds now, pundit sir. (Don't pay any attention to Richard, for pete's sake. He's just trolling, as usual.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/10/2014 9:32 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps allowing it would spur interest in paying the extra money to learn the higher level techniques. So, I wonder how many people live in Fairfield that are just basic TMers and why would they want to crash a TMSP meeting on the MUM campus with Bevan? Apparently there is a checking of badges because Bevan can't remember who is what or even their first name. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/10/2014 9:44 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, I wasn't there, Feste wasn't there. You and Buck were, and obviously the two of you disagree. I would take Buck's opinion over yours any day because he has a more balanced view of Bevan, whereas you're a Bevan cultist. Translation: I don't like you, Share, because you make me JELLOS, and because you like Richard and Barry. I hate you Share!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Richard remains an idiot. I wrote the TM Marketing Timeline because I wanted to, shared it with a friend who grew up in the Movement who suggested sharing with the folks who do the TM Free Blog and I did and they asked if they could post it. It is hardly a hit piece - the Movement as sold and does sell every single one of these products and services that I mention. In fact I probably left some out. One thing you can count on with the Movement - in general, they always get paid, they never pay - they ALWAYS have their hand stuck out for money. A good example is the asking for money for pundits doing yagya. A recent example is the Movement asking for and apparently receiving $100,000.00 to do a national yagya to avert natural disaster for England AFTER all the rains and floods. My question is: since the pundits are ALREADY working for the TMO, supposedly being taken care of by the TMO, wh would it cost 100K to do the yagya? The pundits are already there, they already have all they need, why the 100K to do the yagya? Where does the money go? Are the yagyas more effective the more money is given? And how exactly does that work? On Tue, 3/11/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 1:56 PM On 3/10/2014 8:52 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: And by the way, what statement did Emily make that implied the TM movement is money grubbing? Where I come from, silence indicates agreement. MJ has posted this money grubbing by the TM movement smear numerous times, even to the point of spending days authoring a hit piece for John Knapp's TM-Free blog. The only objections to this false accusation were posted by Share, Buck, and Feste. It looks like Emily has bought into the lie too. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/10/2014 10:15 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: My bad, I found the statement. I was confused reading all the subsequent stuff that really *didn't* make any sense. It looks to me like Judy and MJ are trying to confuse Emily by deliberately posting false statements about MMY and the TMO and TM practice. Now, why would Judy and MJ want to confuse Emily - she's not even a TMer. Why can't MJ and Judy just be truthful about basic TM? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
I have a friend who has been doing TM for many years - he lived in the Philippines in the 60's - said he lived on Sangley point and went to John Paul Jones High school. His old man was an admiral in the US Navy and by coincidence they were Catholic and real good friends with the infamous Cardinal Sin, the one who used to crack on TM. Bill said they often visited the Cardinal at his home who would always answer the door himself with a big smile and the words Welcome the house of Sin! On Tue, 3/11/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 4:56 AM It must be disheartening to see what has happened in the Philippines, the further consolidation of power, and rise of discord. Though, even when I was there (Pres. Marcos years), a group of religious fanatics came to Manila, from the provinces, and began an uprising, with the mistaken belief that the magic amulets they wore around their necks, would save them from any bullets fired their way. I think most of the violence occurred around Taft Avenue, with the US Embassy on Rojas Boulevard also attacked. Aside from this bizarre incident, the greatest threat to the government back then, were the communist-backed Hukbalahap, or Huks, though they were not that active. No problems with Muslims, at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Doc, Since you were there yourself, you can understand generally what I'm saying. But I believe nobody really knows how the country is going to evolve in the future. The political dynamics of the country are very confusing and it's a miracle there hasn't been a violent revolution to wipe out the present regime. Yes, my family came from there and left the country in 1963 to live here in the US. I have not always been critical about the Philippines until I recently experienced the realities of life there when I recently went back in 2006 for a visit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting stuff, though I think political evolution has more to do with the Philippines' corruption. Whenever a country is occupied, the occupiers build relationships with the most powerful families in the country. Then, when independence is gained, guess who leads the government? The Philippines has never had much of a middle class, either, making the divide between the powerful and the common people, much larger than here. I recall you are from there? I lived there 1966-1969, outside Manila, near Quezon City. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
(guffaw) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 9:44 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Share, I wasn't there, Feste wasn't there. You and Buck were, and obviously the two of you disagree. I would take Buck's opinion over yours any day because he has a more balanced view of Bevan, whereas you're a Bevan cultist. Translation: I don't like you, Share, because you make me JELLOS, and because you like Richard and Barry. I hate you Share!
[FairfieldLife] How to deal with confrontation junkies
We all know who they are. The ultimate confrontation junkie on this forum, of course, was Robin Carlsen, whose whole *ACT* revolved around saying something provocative about someone else here, and then trying to goad them into replying, and thus engaging in a one-on-one argument with him. Second, we all know where this behavior comes from -- it's classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder. *Everything* is based on trying to lure others into these direct confrontations so that the narcissist can then prove themselves (in their minds) superior or right or more truthful or whatever it is they have convinced themselves they just have to prove. Third, I think we all know why Robin's primary cult groupies Ann and Judy *became* cult groupies in the first place. He just ran the same confrontation act they do, but better. So in their warped minds, that made him admirable. The fourth thing we all know -- just from watching the confrontation junkies' behavior -- is the thing that pisses them off and frustrates them the most, and makes them the most crazy. It's when people DON'T FALL FOR IT, and just blow them off. Curtis did this to Robin, who reacted by first going even crazier than usual, and then by running away with his tail between his legs. So the answer of how to deal with such pests seems obvious to me. DON'T RESPOND TO THEM. The confrontation junkies literally *feed* on the responses they get to the argument-starters and insults they post. The content of the response doesn't matter; all that matters to them is that they were able to provoke a response. So starve them out: DON'T RESPOND. Let them keep trying to provoke the confrontations they can't seem to do without, and just keep ignoring them. Chances are they'll eventually run away, too, just like their sicko cult leader did. Just a suggestion. You can do it to me, too, if you find my posts somehow offensive or confrontational. I won't mind a bit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/10/2014 11:34 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, this is funny. In the Feeb's excuse for a brain, taking apart one exchange of Share's constitutes dissecting every word she says. It is a pattern with Judy, to try and discredit anyone she doesn't like and anyone who disagrees with her. She's like a bully in playground and I'm not the first person to note this. Judy has a bad rep on this forum for being antagonistic in the extreme - even to the point of being hateful at times. Judy is NOT a spiritual teacher, that's fer sure. Judy sucks at helping people understand the mechanics of consciousness. That's what I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 9:08 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Richard remains an idiot. You got to work early today - 9:00 AM. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 9:08 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I wrote the TM Marketing Timeline because I wanted to When you allowed your hit piece to be published on the TM-Free blog, it makes you look like a John Knapp supporter, but not on his level of expertise. Some of us think John Knapp is a liar and now it looks like you're one too. John Knapp has been almost TOTALLY discredited by Carol on FFL and Judy on Usenet. But, you think I'm the idiot? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Francis Wants to Study Civil Unions
Well...I was hoping he would look into that whole *ten commandments* thing. It's about time we, as humans, bring God's thinking in line with how we think we should live. On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:39 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: But I don't think he's going to accept same-sex unions as valid. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-dolan-gay-marriage-150312090.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
On 3/11/2014 9:02 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: You're trolling here. The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of Internet etiquette. But then we all know not to take you seriously, especially when you tell us to, which you seem to be doing more and more. But your posts speak for themselves and someone today just referred to reading your posts as equivalent to visiting a mental institution. Go think about that for a split second or two, pundit. Translation: I don't like you Richard because you live in Texas with those brown-skinned Tejano cowboys.
[FairfieldLife] RE: How to deal with confrontation junkies
Anyone who's been paying attention has been aware for some time that Barry has been sinking more and more deeply into his fantasy world. This present post is one of the starker recent examples. There isn't a reality-based statement in it. Yet, in Barry's increasingly warped mind, he's telling us things we all know. It seems that part of his fantasy world is the belief that all the rest of us are in it with him. The other weird thing about it is that it's the umptieth iteration of Barry's unsuccessful effort to get readers to not interact with the folks he doesn't like. As Einstein is said to have pointed out, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We all know who they are. The ultimate confrontation junkie on this forum, of course, was Robin Carlsen, whose whole *ACT* revolved around saying something provocative about someone else here, and then trying to goad them into replying, and thus engaging in a one-on-one argument with him. Second, we all know where this behavior comes from -- it's classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder. *Everything* is based on trying to lure others into these direct confrontations so that the narcissist can then prove themselves (in their minds) superior or right or more truthful or whatever it is they have convinced themselves they just have to prove. Third, I think we all know why Robin's primary cult groupies Ann and Judy *became* cult groupies in the first place. He just ran the same confrontation act they do, but better. So in their warped minds, that made him admirable. The fourth thing we all know -- just from watching the confrontation junkies' behavior -- is the thing that pisses them off and frustrates them the most, and makes them the most crazy. It's when people DON'T FALL FOR IT, and just blow them off. Curtis did this to Robin, who reacted by first going even crazier than usual, and then by running away with his tail between his legs. So the answer of how to deal with such pests seems obvious to me. DON'T RESPOND TO THEM. The confrontation junkies literally *feed* on the responses they get to the argument-starters and insults they post. The content of the response doesn't matter; all that matters to them is that they were able to provoke a response. So starve them out: DON'T RESPOND. Let them keep trying to provoke the confrontations they can't seem to do without, and just keep ignoring them. Chances are they'll eventually run away, too, just like their sicko cult leader did. Just a suggestion. You can do it to me, too, if you find my posts somehow offensive or confrontational. I won't mind a bit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 8:55 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: What he'll never tell you is that he /used/ to argue, frequently, enthusiastically, and at length. Translation: I don't like Barry because he talks back to me and refuses to accept my leadership on this forum and because he makes fun of me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Richard, you make a really good point. Most of the TMers in FF are govs or sidhas. At this point it's probably new MUM students who are meditators and since they are likely to become sidhas, it's good to let them have their own meeting which doesn't involve going into detail about the mechanics of the TMSP. As I said before, late arrivals were swarming into the hall, with only one guy badge checking. To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. I guess Buck is soo glad he brought up the topic (-: On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/10/2014 9:32 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps allowing it would spur interest in paying the extra money to learn the higher level techniques. So, I wonder how many people live in Fairfield that are just basic TMers and why would they want to crash a TMSP meeting on the MUM campus with Bevan? Apparently there is a checking of badges because Bevan can't remember who is what or even their first name. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
This does seem to be her pattern. As for the mechanics of consciousness, I am not sure there are any. The mechanics are what you do to attempt to find out about consciousness, and if they work out, then you come to a certain realisation about it, and that is that. I have found just about everyone on this forum has been at one time or another been helpful for understanding the spiritual rap except Judy and Robin. Judy is sometimes helpful as a fact checker, but I think she often misuses that information to continue argumentation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 11:34 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Oh, this is funny. In the Feeb's excuse for a brain, taking apart one exchange of Share's constitutes dissecting every word she says. It is a pattern with Judy, to try and discredit anyone she doesn't like and anyone who disagrees with her. She's like a bully in playground and I'm not the first person to note this. Judy has a bad rep on this forum for being antagonistic in the extreme - even to the point of being hateful at times. Judy is NOT a spiritual teacher, that's fer sure. Judy sucks at helping people understand the mechanics of consciousness. That's what I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 8:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: *All Bawwy had was lame insults, as if he was terrified of what would happen if he actually had to interact.* You should read the rant that Edg posted to Curtis if you want to see how terrified Edg was to actually interact and make a sensible response with someone. If anybody should be lame, it would be Edg. This guy is a radical misfit and deserves everything Barry can throw at him. That's what I think. Fuck you Curtis. I'm only talking about holes-in-walls that don't make sense to me. The people who died in the crashes are not the issue. Of course their memories are sacred in the minds of their loved ones. You're just absurd like Bill Clinton with his how dare you? Tell us your stance on waterboarding and habeas corpus. Tell us about America's genocidal actions and how that squares with how dare you. My title said it all: 9-11 is a blip for GlobalBiz, but you want to shame me here for being inconsiderate of the families of the people who died? Fuck you, you enabling bastard. I cried tears dozens of times in the 9-11 week. My heart was wrung dry by the carnage. Fuck you, Curtis for trying to position me as unthinking about the hearts of those who lost a loved one. How dare you drag the honored dead into this discussion for such a low purpose! Show your true stripes you cowardly spin-master for evil. Tell us where you agree or disagree with any political candidate for president. Let's see your cards -- I'm betting your immorality and cold-heartedness will show up bigtime in any stance you take that requires you to explain yourself about abortion, war, GlobalBiz, genocide, etc. For you to pick such an issue and try to besmirch me and my essay which calls for an examination of the evil that is actually in our faces, I condemn you as evil's apologist. Fuck you, Curtis. What a disappointment, what joke for a personality, what a sell out! That, or there's a dark morass of worms eating your brain. How you manage to still love anything is astounding. My only hope is that the power of music soothes you enough to keep you a keyboardist and off the streets. Tell me you'd vote for Kucinich, and I'll take back 90% of the above excoriations. Edg Duveyoung Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:56 am Dick Cheney Meditating http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/152844
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Sez Xeno, expertly demonstrating the pattern of those who find me threatening (and who found Robin threatening). This does seem to be her pattern. As for the mechanics of consciousness, I am not sure there are any. The mechanics are what you do to attempt to find out about consciousness, and if they work out, then you come to a certain realisation about it, and that is that. I have found just about everyone on this forum has been at one time or another been helpful for understanding the spiritual rap except Judy and Robin. Judy is sometimes helpful as a fact checker, but I think she often misuses that information to continue argumentation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 11:34 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Oh, this is funny. In the Feeb's excuse for a brain, taking apart one exchange of Share's constitutes dissecting every word she says. It is a pattern with Judy, to try and discredit anyone she doesn't like and anyone who disagrees with her. She's like a bully in playground and I'm not the first person to note this. Judy has a bad rep on this forum for being antagonistic in the extreme - even to the point of being hateful at times. Judy is NOT a spiritual teacher, that's fer sure. Judy sucks at helping people understand the mechanics of consciousness. That's what I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
I heard Maharishi say once, referring to Cardinal Sin, 'We don't want to have anything to do with Sin'. He was taping an interview with a Philippine reporter where he ragged someone on Sin. After it was in the box to be shipped to the station, he thought the better of it and had the tape stopped (since it was being recorded using movement equipment). The interview was redone I believe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have a friend who has been doing TM for many years - he lived in the Philippines in the 60's - said he lived on Sangley point and went to John Paul Jones High school. His old man was an admiral in the US Navy and by coincidence they were Catholic and real good friends with the infamous Cardinal Sin, the one who used to crack on TM. Bill said they often visited the Cardinal at his home who would always answer the door himself with a big smile and the words Welcome the house of Sin! On Tue, 3/11/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 4:56 AM It must be disheartening to see what has happened in the Philippines, the further consolidation of power, and rise of discord. Though, even when I was there (Pres. Marcos years), a group of religious fanatics came to Manila, from the provinces, and began an uprising, with the mistaken belief that the magic amulets they wore around their necks, would save them from any bullets fired their way. I think most of the violence occurred around Taft Avenue, with the US Embassy on Rojas Boulevard also attacked. Aside from this bizarre incident, the greatest threat to the government back then, were the communist-backed Hukbalahap, or Huks, though they were not that active. No problems with Muslims, at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Doc, Since you were there yourself, you can understand generally what I'm saying. But I believe nobody really knows how the country is going to evolve in the future. The political dynamics of the country are very confusing and it's a miracle there hasn't been a violent revolution to wipe out the present regime. Yes, my family came from there and left the country in 1963 to live here in the US. I have not always been critical about the Philippines until I recently experienced the realities of life there when I recently went back in 2006 for a visit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting stuff, though I think political evolution has more to do with the Philippines' corruption. Whenever a country is occupied, the occupiers build relationships with the most powerful families in the country. Then, when independence is gained, guess who leads the government? The Philippines has never had much of a middle class, either, making the divide between the powerful and the common people, much larger than here. I recall you are from there? I lived there 1966-1969, outside Manila, near Quezon City. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Share, anyone interested in the TM-Sidhi programme would likely want to know anything they could find out about it. Everyone on the path of enlightenment is confused anyway; it doesn't matter so much if there is some information you do not understand, because there are always things one does not understand, and when we realise that, we try to find out, that is how we all got into this stuff. Even a detailed description of the mechanics of a technique does not necessarily result in knowing how to pull it off oneself. What about the descriptions of how TM works given in intro and prep lectures to those who are at the time NON-meditators? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, you make a really good point. Most of the TMers in FF are govs or sidhas. At this point it's probably new MUM students who are meditators and since they are likely to become sidhas, it's good to let them have their own meeting which doesn't involve going into detail about the mechanics of the TMSP. As I said before, late arrivals were swarming into the hall, with only one guy badge checking. To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. I guess Buck is soo glad he brought up the topic (-: On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/10/2014 9:32 PM, emilymaenot@... wrote: Perhaps allowing it would spur interest in paying the extra money to learn the higher level techniques. So, I wonder how many people live in Fairfield that are just basic TMers and why would they want to crash a TMSP meeting on the MUM campus with Bevan? Apparently there is a checking of badges because Bevan can't remember who is what or even their first name. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Edg sure had Curtis's number. Bravo, Edg. I'd forgotten that post. You should read the rant that Edg posted to Curtis if you want to see how terrified Edg was to actually interact and make a sensible response with someone. If anybody should be lame, it would be Edg. This guy is a radical misfit and deserves everything Barry can throw at him. That's what I think. Fuck you Curtis. I'm only talking about holes-in-walls that don't make sense to me. The people who died in the crashes are not the issue. Of course their memories are sacred in the minds of their loved ones. You're just absurd like Bill Clinton with his how dare you? Tell us your stance on waterboarding and habeas corpus. Tell us about America's genocidal actions and how that squares with how dare you. My title said it all: 9-11 is a blip for GlobalBiz, but you want to shame me here for being inconsiderate of the families of the people who died? Fuck you, you enabling bastard. I cried tears dozens of times in the 9-11 week. My heart was wrung dry by the carnage. Fuck you, Curtis for trying to position me as unthinking about the hearts of those who lost a loved one. How dare you drag the honored dead into this discussion for such a low purpose! Show your true stripes you cowardly spin-master for evil. Tell us where you agree or disagree with any political candidate for president. Let's see your cards -- I'm betting your immorality and cold-heartedness will show up bigtime in any stance you take that requires you to explain yourself about abortion, war, GlobalBiz, genocide, etc. For you to pick such an issue and try to besmirch me and my essay which calls for an examination of the evil that is actually in our faces, I condemn you as evil's apologist. Fuck you, Curtis. What a disappointment, what joke for a personality, what a sell out! That, or there's a dark morass of worms eating your brain. How you manage to still love anything is astounding. My only hope is that the power of music soothes you enough to keep you a keyboardist and off the streets. Tell me you'd vote for Kucinich, and I'll take back 90% of the above excoriations. Edg Duveyoung Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:56 am Dick Cheney Meditating http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/152844 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/152844
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 8:18 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Opsie ooopsie ooopsie-Barry. In Nabby's case, they were me, Salyavin, and Michael. Let's see if Salyavin has the integrity to point this out to Barry. It looks like you are attempting to control and force Sal to do something that is really petty and unimportant to a chat forum, so you can argue and obsess about unimportant meaningless shit. Judy is a nitpicker. That's what I think. It's a control issue. And the element of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 7:24 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy's motto: Get your mean out! You can pretty much tell who has done their morning meditation, Steve, by reading what's on their mind in the early morning. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Share watchers and CORRECTORS.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Re: To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. Share, can you explain this to me? Or, someone else? Why is it a good idea to do this? What is the purpose? To police each other? Don't you know who is badged and who isn't? Why would there be nice memories of doing that - is it just a ritual of saying hello to one's friends? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, you make a really good point. Most of the TMers in FF are govs or sidhas. At this point it's probably new MUM students who are meditators and since they are likely to become sidhas, it's good to let them have their own meeting which doesn't involve going into detail about the mechanics of the TMSP. As I said before, late arrivals were swarming into the hall, with only one guy badge checking. To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. I guess Buck is soo glad he brought up the topic (-: On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/10/2014 9:32 PM, emilymaenot@... wrote: Perhaps allowing it would spur interest in paying the extra money to learn the higher level techniques. So, I wonder how many people live in Fairfield that are just basic TMers and why would they want to crash a TMSP meeting on the MUM campus with Bevan? Apparently there is a checking of badges because Bevan can't remember who is what or even their first name. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Xeno, if you can remember the details of what was said in the TM intro, then I take my hat off to you. Mine was 39 years ago. I remember the bubble diagram. Twice a year there are TMSP courses in Fairfield. I'm guessing that meetings are held beforehand to teach people a little about it. But not enough to spoil their innocence with the practice. What I absolutely love after all these decades of doing TMSP, is that I thoroughly enjoy all the paradoxes that life is, like silence along with activity. It's a great gift and I feel fortunate and grateful. On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:54 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, anyone interested in the TM-Sidhi programme would likely want to know anything they could find out about it. Everyone on the path of enlightenment is confused anyway; it doesn't matter so much if there is some information you do not understand, because there are always things one does not understand, and when we realise that, we try to find out, that is how we all got into this stuff. Even a detailed description of the mechanics of a technique does not necessarily result in knowing how to pull it off oneself. What about the descriptions of how TM works given in intro and prep lectures to those who are at the time NON-meditators? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, you make a really good point. Most of the TMers in FF are govs or sidhas. At this point it's probably new MUM students who are meditators and since they are likely to become sidhas, it's good to let them have their own meeting which doesn't involve going into detail about the mechanics of the TMSP. As I said before, late arrivals were swarming into the hall, with only one guy badge checking. To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. I guess Buck is soo glad he brought up the topic (-: On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/10/2014 9:32 PM, emilymaenot@... wrote: Perhaps allowing it would spur interest in paying the extra money to learn the higher level techniques. So, I wonder how many people live in Fairfield that are just basic TMers and why would they want to crash a TMSP meeting on the MUM campus with Bevan? Apparently there is a checking of badges because Bevan can't remember who is what or even their first name. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] pundit revolt
KMCD/Classic 96 News is following a developing story taking place at the Pundit Campus near Vedic City. According to reports, officers were called to help with an unruly individual when things took a turn to the bad. A number of pundits turned hostile and forced Jefferson County Sheriffs officials to call for back up from city officers as well as Wapello County Officers, State Troopers along with Fairfield Fire. Authorities attempt to gain control of a scene of nearly 50 pundits that appear to not be listening or following the directions local authorities are given. As details develop in this matter they can be found here or hear on KMCD Classic 96 News.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Share has 'nice memories', don't read great significance into this. Let it slide. In the beginning, the TM-Sidhi program was a very hush hush affair, very secretive. After all those who learned back then had something that no one else in the movement had. The programme was selling for over twenty times the cost of TM. To find out anything people had to pay up and go through all sorts of checks and preparatory courses. I suppose it is a bit more relaxed these days. I do not think that trying to put a burr on Share's nicey niceyness is going to have any effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. Share, can you explain this to me? Or, someone else? Why is it a good idea to do this? What is the purpose? To police each other? Don't you know who is badged and who isn't? Why would there be nice memories of doing that - is it just a ritual of saying hello to one's friends?
Re: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt
Awww! And you would think that all that yagya and chanting vedic-ally speaking, and proximity to the Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge would prevent sech as that. On Tue, 3/11/14, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 3:23 PM KMCD/Classic 96 News is following a developing story taking place at the Pundit Campus near Vedic City. According to reports, officers were called to help with an unruly individual when things took a turn to the bad. A number of pundits turned hostile and forced Jefferson County Sheriffs officials to call for back up from city officers as well as Wapello County Officers, State Troopers along with Fairfield Fire. Authorities attempt to gain control of a scene of nearly 50 pundits that appear to not be listening or following the directions local authorities are given. As details develop in this matter they can be found here or hear on KMCD Classic 96 News.
Re: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt
let's see how quickly Hagelin will send out a message to all the people who contribute to the pundit program that it was all lies. On Tue, 3/11/14, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 3:23 PM KMCD/Classic 96 News is following a developing story taking place at the Pundit Campus near Vedic City. According to reports, officers were called to help with an unruly individual when things took a turn to the bad. A number of pundits turned hostile and forced Jefferson County Sheriffs officials to call for back up from city officers as well as Wapello County Officers, State Troopers along with Fairfield Fire. Authorities attempt to gain control of a scene of nearly 50 pundits that appear to not be listening or following the directions local authorities are given. As details develop in this matter they can be found here or hear on KMCD Classic 96 News.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Richard, why do you make this stuff up? None of this happened. For the record, I have absolutely nothing against TM. Nothing. I haven't done it, I have no basis to judge it or its efficacy, etc. I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure - nothing wrong with asking questions about it. I ask questions about what I am curious about, for example, what Share said that I just asked her about. Do you know the answer to my queries? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 10:15 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: My bad, I found the statement. I was confused reading all the subsequent stuff that really *didn't* make any sense. It looks to me like Judy and MJ are trying to confuse Emily by deliberately posting false statements about MMY and the TMO and TM practice. Now, why would Judy and MJ want to confuse Emily - she's not even a TMer. Why can't MJ and Judy just be truthful about basic TM? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Xeno, what was hush hush about it?! When the first sidhas came back to FF in 76 or whenever it was, they held meetings about it and I remember Jon Shear talking about his experiences. As for the cost, I got much of mine free because I had worked on staff. For less than a year! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:28 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Share has 'nice memories', don't read great significance into this. Let it slide. In the beginning, the TM-Sidhi program was a very hush hush affair, very secretive. After all those who learned back then had something that no one else in the movement had. The programme was selling for over twenty times the cost of TM. To find out anything people had to pay up and go through all sorts of checks and preparatory courses. I suppose it is a bit more relaxed these days. I do not think that trying to put a burr on Share's nicey niceyness is going to have any effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. Share, can you explain this to me? Or, someone else? Why is it a good idea to do this? What is the purpose? To police each other? Don't you know who is badged and who isn't? Why would there be nice memories of doing that - is it just a ritual of saying hello to one's friends?
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Thanks Xeno. I was asking out of innocent curiosity just to understand, not to put a burr on Share, whatever that means. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Share has 'nice memories', don't read great significance into this. Let it slide. In the beginning, the TM-Sidhi program was a very hush hush affair, very secretive. After all those who learned back then had something that no one else in the movement had. The programme was selling for over twenty times the cost of TM. To find out anything people had to pay up and go through all sorts of checks and preparatory courses. I suppose it is a bit more relaxed these days. I do not think that trying to put a burr on Share's nicey niceyness is going to have any effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. Share, can you explain this to me? Or, someone else? Why is it a good idea to do this? What is the purpose? To police each other? Don't you know who is badged and who isn't? Why would there be nice memories of doing that - is it just a ritual of saying hello to one's friends?
Re: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt
So it possibly *wasn't* out of the question to joke about the recent fire having been started by the pundits themselves. Those sure are some powerful, peace-creating Waves Of Woo that the pundit-supporters are shelling out the big bucks for, eh? Maybe the police should just commission a yagya to calm things down. :-) From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt KMCD/Classic 96 News is following a developing story taking place at the Pundit Campus near Vedic City. According to reports, officers were called to help with an unruly individual when things took a turn to the bad. A number of pundits turned hostile and forced Jefferson County Sheriffs officials to call for back up from city officers as well as Wapello County Officers, State Troopers along with Fairfield Fire. Authorities attempt to gain control of a scene of nearly 50 pundits that appear to not be listening or following the directions local authorities are given. As details develop in this matter they can be found here or hear on KMCD Classic 96 News.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 2:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I wonder if they log off at the end of the day with a sense of satisfaction of a job well done? Who says they log off? Maybe they just lay their head down on the desk and nod off and dream about what they are going to post the next day. You can usually tell something about a person if they get to their work station at 6:00 AM and their first post is at 6:01, and their last post is at 12:01 AM, and you know they are posting from their home office. Posting times and frequency of posting can tell you a lot about what people are doing, even without reading their posts. For example, if they respond to a post within a minute or two in the middle of the day you know that they probably are posting from their work place, since most normal people work during the day. So, I'd say that some people like Judy and Barry are on their computers just about 24 x 7 and they are monitoring every post sent to this forum almost ever minute of the day. It does make you wonder how they get any real work done or practice their spiritual program - but, maybe this IS their spiritual program and work well done. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Share, can you answer my questions about what you wrote? Or, have I so annoyed you that you must insist on dismissing me. I really am curious. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Xeno, what was hush hush about it?! When the first sidhas came back to FF in 76 or whenever it was, they held meetings about it and I remember Jon Shear talking about his experiences. As for the cost, I got much of mine free because I had worked on staff. For less than a year! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:28 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Share has 'nice memories', don't read great significance into this. Let it slide. In the beginning, the TM-Sidhi program was a very hush hush affair, very secretive. After all those who learned back then had something that no one else in the movement had. The programme was selling for over twenty times the cost of TM. To find out anything people had to pay up and go through all sorts of checks and preparatory courses. I suppose it is a bit more relaxed these days. I do not think that trying to put a burr on Share's nicey niceyness is going to have any effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: To me it seemed like a good idea for the audience members to check each other's badges. Plus it brought up nice memories of when we used to do that, before there were Domes for group program. Share, can you explain this to me? Or, someone else? Why is it a good idea to do this? What is the purpose? To police each other? Don't you know who is badged and who isn't? Why would there be nice memories of doing that - is it just a ritual of saying hello to one's friends?
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 2:17 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. Maybe Barry should apply for residency - he's been reading Judy's posts at least since 1996. Obviously Barry is very disturbed by some others being on this forum. So, how many years can you visit a mental institution without becoming a resident by default, unless you are a doctor or a social worker of some kind? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt
On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: So it possibly *wasn't* out of the question to joke about the recent fire having been started by the pundits themselves. It's probably always crude and out of the question to use a tragedy in order to win a religious debate and to put the blame for everything bad that happens on a small group of poor Hindu pundit boys from India. That's what I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Richard remains an idiot. I wrote the TM Marketing Timeline because I wanted to, shared it with a friend who grew up in the Movement who suggested sharing with the folks who do the TM Free Blog and I did and they asked if they could post it. It is hardly a hit piece - the Movement as sold and does sell every single one of these products and services that I mention. In fact I probably left some out. One thing you can count on with the Movement - in general, they always get paid, they never pay - they ALWAYS have their hand stuck out for money. A good example is the asking for money for pundits doing yagya. A recent example is the Movement asking for and apparently receiving $100,000.00 to do a national yagya to avert natural disaster for England AFTER all the rains and floods. My question is: since the pundits are ALREADY working for the TMO, supposedly being taken care of by the TMO, wh would it cost 100K to do the yagya? The pundits are already there, they already have all they need, why the 100K to do the yagya? Where does the money go? Are the yagyas more effective the more money is given? And how exactly does that work? On Tue, 3/11/14, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 1:56 PM On 3/10/2014 8:52 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: And by the way, what statement did Emily make that implied the TM movement is money grubbing? Where I come from, silence indicates agreement. MJ has posted this money grubbing by the TM movement smear numerous times, even to the point of spending days authoring a hit piece for John Knapp's TM-Free blog. The only objections to this false accusation were posted by Share, Buck, and Feste. It looks like Emily has bought into the lie too. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Hmmm, who said I was trying to learn TM? I never said I had any prejudices against MMY; in fact, I don't. I just said the power of his enlightened persona (which I have gathered was quite powerful) does not translate for me through the videos. I think Share is too scared to answer my question, honestly. I am sorry she is so scared of me. I'm not that person. I am curious as to what her reasoning is behind what *she* said. You think they double checked the dome badges to make sure no one there might be trying to confuse themselves? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
[FairfieldLife] RE: How to deal with confrontation junkies
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Anyone who's been paying attention has been aware for some time that Barry has been sinking more and more deeply into his fantasy world. This present post is one of the starker recent examples. There isn't a reality-based statement in it. Yet, in Barry's increasingly warped mind, he's telling us things we all know. It seems that part of his fantasy world is the belief that all the rest of us are in it with him. The other weird thing about it is that it's the umptieth iteration of Barry's unsuccessful effort to get readers to not interact with the folks he doesn't like. As Einstein is said to have pointed out, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Well at least you read the thing. I just scrolled by... there's only so much entertainment I can stand in one day. We all know who they are. The ultimate confrontation junkie on this forum, of course, was Robin Carlsen, whose whole *ACT* revolved around saying something provocative about someone else here, and then trying to goad them into replying, and thus engaging in a one-on-one argument with him. Second, we all know where this behavior comes from -- it's classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder. *Everything* is based on trying to lure others into these direct confrontations so that the narcissist can then prove themselves (in their minds) superior or right or more truthful or whatever it is they have convinced themselves they just have to prove. Third, I think we all know why Robin's primary cult groupies Ann and Judy *became* cult groupies in the first place. He just ran the same confrontation act they do, but better. So in their warped minds, that made him admirable. The fourth thing we all know -- just from watching the confrontation junkies' behavior -- is the thing that pisses them off and frustrates them the most, and makes them the most crazy. It's when people DON'T FALL FOR IT, and just blow them off. Curtis did this to Robin, who reacted by first going even crazier than usual, and then by running away with his tail between his legs. So the answer of how to deal with such pests seems obvious to me. DON'T RESPOND TO THEM. The confrontation junkies literally *feed* on the responses they get to the argument-starters and insults they post. The content of the response doesn't matter; all that matters to them is that they were able to provoke a response. So starve them out: DON'T RESPOND. Let them keep trying to provoke the confrontations they can't seem to do without, and just keep ignoring them. Chances are they'll eventually run away, too, just like their sicko cult leader did. Just a suggestion. You can do it to me, too, if you find my posts somehow offensive or confrontational. I won't mind a bit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Richard, talking about himself - the man who demonstrates through his posts a stream of self-talk 24/7, per his own words. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 2:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I wonder if they log off at the end of the day with a sense of satisfaction of a job well done? Who says they log off? Maybe they just lay their head down on the desk and nod off and dream about what they are going to post the next day. You can usually tell something about a person if they get to their work station at 6:00 AM and their first post is at 6:01, and their last post is at 12:01 AM, and you know they are posting from their home office. Posting times and frequency of posting can tell you a lot about what people are doing, even without reading their posts. For example, if they respond to a post within a minute or two in the middle of the day you know that they probably are posting from their work place, since most normal people work during the day. So, I'd say that some people like Judy and Barry are on their computers just about 24 x 7 and they are monitoring every post sent to this forum almost ever minute of the day. It does make you wonder how they get any real work done or practice their spiritual program - but, maybe this IS their spiritual program and work well done. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 8:36 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: All Bawwy had was lame insults, as if he was terrified of what would happen if he actually had to interact. You should read the rant that Edg posted to Curtis if you want to see how terrified Edg was to actually interact and make a sensible response with someone. If anybody should be lame, it would be Edg. This guy is a radical misfit and deserves everything Barry can throw at him. That's what I think. It's good to know that all is right and well in the karmic scheme of things, pundit sir. As usual you are a wealth of good sense and truth. Keep up the good work. Fuck you Curtis. I'm only talking about holes-in-walls that don't make sense to me. The people who died in the crashes are not the issue. Of course their memories are sacred in the minds of their loved ones. You're just absurd like Bill Clinton with his how dare you? Tell us your stance on waterboarding and habeas corpus. Tell us about America's genocidal actions and how that squares with how dare you. My title said it all: 9-11 is a blip for GlobalBiz, but you want to shame me here for being inconsiderate of the families of the people who died? Fuck you, you enabling bastard. I cried tears dozens of times in the 9-11 week. My heart was wrung dry by the carnage. Fuck you, Curtis for trying to position me as unthinking about the hearts of those who lost a loved one. How dare you drag the honored dead into this discussion for such a low purpose! Show your true stripes you cowardly spin-master for evil. Tell us where you agree or disagree with any political candidate for president. Let's see your cards -- I'm betting your immorality and cold-heartedness will show up bigtime in any stance you take that requires you to explain yourself about abortion, war, GlobalBiz, genocide, etc. For you to pick such an issue and try to besmirch me and my essay which calls for an examination of the evil that is actually in our faces, I condemn you as evil's apologist. Fuck you, Curtis. What a disappointment, what joke for a personality, what a sell out! That, or there's a dark morass of worms eating your brain. How you manage to still love anything is astounding. My only hope is that the power of music soothes you enough to keep you a keyboardist and off the streets. Tell me you'd vote for Kucinich, and I'll take back 90% of the above excoriations. Edg Duveyoung Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:56 am Dick Cheney Meditating http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/152844 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/152844
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Tantra means loosely – “ Sac red teachings” – (thankas)
So he only knows that particular path then. Look Willy, I know you just enjoy being an ass or troll here but you're earning bad karma by posting misinformation. Maharishi once said the wise should not confuse the ignorant. A more relevant statement might have been beware the ignorant confusing the ignorant. You don't seem to notice that I speak in terms of MY tantric tradition and often state in my tradition or my path. There are many tantric paths or schools in India. There is NOT just ONE. Since you are into Sri Vidya and book learnin' perhaps you should read this book which talks about how many schools of tantra there are in India: http://shop.himalayaninstitute.org/collections/books/products/tantra-unveiled BTW, over a decade ago a friend put together a gathering about tantra at a tantric practitioner's house in Berkeley. It's possible Kinsley was even there. There was one actual tantric in the house and it wasn't the host. It was my guru. Everyone else only had peripheral knowledge or no training from a master. There were several scholars there doing graduate dissertations on the subject but none were willing to take initiation so they could know the subject first hand. One of the books my guru recommended is L.R. Chawhdri's book Practicals of Mantras and Tantras. Despite it's poor English there is quite a bit of information there. But there is a caveat, it won't make much sense to anyone but an initiate. On 03/10/2014 09:51 PM, pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The late Professor Kinsley was a great Sri Vidya initiate who spent years in India at the feet of realized masters. For any Shakti or Devi admirer this is a must read , most comprehensive explanation of each of the ten Mahavidyas. The Ten Mahavidyas: Kali Tara Tripurasundari Bhuwaneshwari Tripura Bhairavi Dhumavati Chinamasta Bagalmukhi Matangi Kamala 'Tantric Visions of the Devine Feminine: The Ten Mahavidyas’ By David Kinsley University of California Press, 1997 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : So who initiated Kinsley into tantra and what was his tradition? On 03/10/2014 04:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/10/2014 12:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: So I guess with your crude metaphor you believe are having sex with Saraswati whenever you practice TM. Saraswati is already married and unites with her husband, Brahma. In Tantric Yoga, Purusha is totally separate from the prakriti. Buddhists believe that Saraswati is Mahavidya Tara, known as a guardian deity who upholds the teachings of Gautama Buddha by offering protection and assistance to practitioners trying to reach moksha. Works cited: 'Hindu Goddesses: Vision of the Divine Feminine in the Hindu Religious Traditions' by David Kinsley University of California Press 1988 p. 95.
[FairfieldLife] Re: pundit revolt
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : KMCD/Classic 96 News is following a developing story taking place at the Pundit Campus near Vedic City. According to reports, officers were called to help with an unruly individual when things took a turn to the bad. A number of pundits turned hostile and forced Jefferson County Sheriffs officials to call for back up from city officers as well as Wapello County Officers, State Troopers along with Fairfield Fire. Authorities attempt to gain control of a scene of nearly 50 pundits that appear to not be listening or following the directions local authorities are given. As details develop in this matter they can be found here or hear on KMCD Classic 96 News. Oh Lord, head for the tornado shelters, there are rogue pundits on the loose in Jefferson County.
[FairfieldLife] Re: pundit revolt
Well you're thinking the wrong thing again Dicky because no one is blaming the poor pundit boys for anything. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: So it possibly *wasn't* out of the question to joke about the recent fire having been started by the pundits themselves. It's probably always crude and out of the question to use a tragedy in order to win a religious debate and to put the blame for everything bad that happens on a small group of poor Hindu pundit boys from India. That's what I think.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
It looks like Richard is attempting to protect Barry from the increasingly embarrassing bloopers he makes when he has one of his fits of demonizing the folks he doesn't like (i.e., his critics). Salyavin is between a rock and a hard place. He can speak up and confirm that Barry goofed badly, or he can keep quiet and allow folks to think Barry considers him (and Michael) completely and totally petty and obsessed...with meaningless shit. There isn't anything Richard can do about that. Opsie ooopsie ooopsie-Barry. In Nabby's case, they were me, Salyavin, and Michael. Let's see if Salyavin has the integrity to point this out to Barry. It looks like you are attempting to control and force Sal to do something that is really petty and unimportant to a chat forum, so you can argue and obsess about unimportant meaningless shit. Judy is a nitpicker. That's what I think. It's a control issue. And theelement of control can be completely and totally petty, such as feeling that they forced Nabby to post the way that *they* want him to post so that they can obsess more easily on meaningless shit said on an unimportant chat forum so that they can better argue about it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
And what do you think about Richard's first statement, suggesting that Emily is trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet? Do you think that's an accurate description of what Emily is doing? Just curious as to how far your admiration of Richard extends. Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt
Evidently it was lack of qualified jyotish-ees - had a very specific chart been cast for that building the jyotish-ee could have foreseen the impending fire and directed the pundits to do a fire prevention yagya. Maybe that's why the pundits are acting up now, to protest the lack of qualified Maharishi Jyotish-ees on the pundit staff. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 3:34 PM So it possibly *wasn't* out of the question to joke about the recent fire having been started by the pundits themselves. Those sure are some powerful, peace-creating Waves Of Woo that the pundit-supporters are shelling out the big bucks for, eh? Maybe the police should just commission a yagya to calm things down. :-) From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] pundit revolt KMCD/Classic 96 News is following a developing story taking place at the Pundit Campus near Vedic City. According to reports, officers were called to help with an unruly individual when things took a turn to the bad. A number of pundits turned hostile and forced Jefferson County Sheriffs officials to call for back up from city officers as well as Wapello County Officers, State Troopers along with Fairfield Fire. Authorities attempt to gain control of a scene of nearly 50 pundits that appear to not be listening or following the directions local authorities are given. As details develop in this matter they can be found here or hear on KMCD Classic 96 News.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Judy, it's pointless for you to present yourself as the upholder of truth and accurate descriptions. Even in this thread I've seen indications that you are far from that. Except in your own deluded mind. And I don't believe you when you say that you are just curious about how far my admiration of Richard extends. I think you are trolling, butting in and muddying the waters as usual. As you did when I simply disagreed with something Buck said about a meeting he and I both attended and you did not. Why do you even have an interest in the difference of opinion between me and Buck? Really, what significance is it to you? As Richard might say, I think you got a brain problem going on! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:14 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: And what do you think about Richard's first statement, suggesting that Emily is trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet? Do you think that's an accurate description of what Emily is doing? Just curious as to how far your admiration of Richard extends. Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Thank you Share. I retain my innocence of all things TM in letting this go. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
[FairfieldLife] AIRPLANE BLUES
Perspective. The Malaysia flight 370 seems to dominate the news, with essentially no real information on what happened. There were 239 people on the flight including the crew. Somewhere between 145,000 and 155,000 people die on Earth every day from various causes, that's 6,000 to about 6,500 per hour. That is a lot more grief for many still living than a single aeroplane.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with Pundits
Does anyone know if these pundit guys are allowed out for days at the mall, holidays or visits home? Or anything to break the monotony. I joined the UK purusha group for a taste of the experience and lasted two days, and yet before I tried I thought it would be the ultimate way of life for me. It took actually going along and trying it before I knew it wasn't my thing. In fact I realised it would drive me fucking nuts! The thought of that sort of commitment to such a narrow lifestyle makes me shudder even now. Everything gets boring after a while, even chanting the ved perhaps, but what sort of opt out does a pundit get? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : See attached.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Perspective? Sure, people across the globe are dropping like flies from heart attacks, road accidents, old age . . . but an aircraft vanishing without trace is a MYSTERY and mysteries are fun to solve! Think Amelia Earhart - we're still trying to work out what happened to her and she vanished in 1937.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
Yep, Sangley Point - used to take the launch across Manila Bay to shop at the PX there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have a friend who has been doing TM for many years - he lived in the Philippines in the 60's - said he lived on Sangley point and went to John Paul Jones High school. His old man was an admiral in the US Navy and by coincidence they were Catholic and real good friends with the infamous Cardinal Sin, the one who used to crack on TM. Bill said they often visited the Cardinal at his home who would always answer the door himself with a big smile and the words Welcome the house of Sin! On Tue, 3/11/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 4:56 AM It must be disheartening to see what has happened in the Philippines, the further consolidation of power, and rise of discord. Though, even when I was there (Pres. Marcos years), a group of religious fanatics came to Manila, from the provinces, and began an uprising, with the mistaken belief that the magic amulets they wore around their necks, would save them from any bullets fired their way. I think most of the violence occurred around Taft Avenue, with the US Embassy on Rojas Boulevard also attacked. Aside from this bizarre incident, the greatest threat to the government back then, were the communist-backed Hukbalahap, or Huks, though they were not that active. No problems with Muslims, at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Doc, Since you were there yourself, you can understand generally what I'm saying. But I believe nobody really knows how the country is going to evolve in the future. The political dynamics of the country are very confusing and it's a miracle there hasn't been a violent revolution to wipe out the present regime. Yes, my family came from there and left the country in 1963 to live here in the US. I have not always been critical about the Philippines until I recently experienced the realities of life there when I recently went back in 2006 for a visit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting stuff, though I think political evolution has more to do with the Philippines' corruption. Whenever a country is occupied, the occupiers build relationships with the most powerful families in the country. Then, when independence is gained, guess who leads the government? The Philippines has never had much of a middle class, either, making the divide between the powerful and the common people, much larger than here. I recall you are from there? I lived there 1966-1969, outside Manila, near Quezon City. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
OK, Share, let's see these indications. Put up or shut up. (She won't put up, because she doesn't have any such indications; but she won't shut up either. Such integrity. So saintly. So nicey-nice.) In this post, I was pointing out something you don't want to have pointed out, which is that you profess to admire a person who constantly tells lies about other people. I was curious as to whether you would cop to this, which of course you have not. You are, I suspect, just as happy to have folks think Emily was trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet, so you aren't going to correct Richard's disingenuous suggestion. Instead we get this bafflegabbing attack on me. With regard to Buck, as you know, my issue there had to do with your claiming you knew what he meant when he characterized Bevan as a tragic figure. I doubted that, and I was right. You offered two versions of what he meant, both of which significantly missed the mark, as we found out when he told us what he did mean. But you will not acknowledge that you got it wrong. (And I made the point, by the way, that you and Buck had both attended, whereas Feste and I had not. So stop trying to make it seem as if I hadn't made that clear right up front. That was my whole point, after all, that I found Buck more credible than you because he doesn't try to idealize Bevan.) Emily is so right in everything she says about you, Share. You are the least straightforward, least authentic person I've ever encountered. Emily doesn't say this, but I will: You are a deeply, deeply dishonest, morally corrupt individual and not who you pretend to be. And I will continue to make an issue of it, so learn to live with it. Judy, it's pointless for you to present yourself as the upholder of truth and accurate descriptions. Even in this thread I've seen indications that you are far from that. Except in your own deluded mind. And I don't believe you when you say that you are just curious about how far my admiration of Richard extends. I think you are trolling, butting in and muddying the waters as usual. As you did when I simply disagreed with something Buck said about a meeting he and I both attended and you did not. Why do you even have an interest in the difference of opinion between me and Buck? Really, what significance is it to you? As Richard might say, I think you got a brain problem going on! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:14 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: And what do you think about Richard's first statement, suggesting that Emily is trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet? Do you think that's an accurate description of what Emily is doing? Just curious as to how far your admiration of Richard extends. Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
I meant, OBVIOUSLY, the little homicidal weird-o, not the uncle. Context, Richard, context. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 8:36 PM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Yep, turning his uncle into Alpo was the *perfect* political campaign move. If I lived there, I'd cast a hundred votes for the guy, at least. You'd probably be Alpo, at least, if you cast a hundred votes for the uncle.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
You may be jumping to a hasty conclusion - I have always thought that writing succinctly was an admirable goal. Yet, Barry amazes me, in that he can take a half-baked thought, mix in a delusion or three, and write volumes about it, over and over again. I don't know where this particular skill would come in handy, in the real world, but he has it down, and contributes his literary largesse, here, *frequently*.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Says Barry, demonstrating that he has nothing to contribute. Reading *any* posts made by *several* people here is like visiting a mental hospital these days. You can always predict that when the petty squabbling dies down for a few days they'll react to that by rushing in and trying to start it all up again, attacking their standard enemies and trying desperately to suck them back into confrontation mode. What I don't understand is how they -- and in particular I mean Ann, Emily, Judy, Doctordumb, and Richard -- believe that this neediness reflects well on them, and actually produces a payoff. I mean, isn't it wiser -- when you have nothing to contribute -- to STFU, rather than trying to start yet another fight and thus *demonstrating* that you have nothing to contribute?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with Pundits
They don't leave the compound so far as I know - Hagelin and the boys are afraid they'll run away, even tho only 5 % do according to Hagelin. On Tue, 3/11/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 5:58 PM Does anyone know if these pundit guys are allowed out for days at the mall, holidays or visits home? Or anything to break the monotony. I joined the UK purusha group for a taste of the experience and lasted two days, and yet before I tried I thought it would be the ultimate way of life for me. It took actually going along and trying it before I knew it wasn't my thing. In fact I realised it would drive me fucking nuts! The thought of that sort of commitment to such a narrow lifestyle makes me shudder even now. Everything gets boring after a while, even chanting the ved perhaps, but what sort of opt out does a pundit get? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : See attached.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
It's what is known in journalismese as a Man bites dog story. I don't know about fun to solve; that sounds a little heartless when the lives of so many people--including relatives and friends--are involved. But the mystery certainly is compelling, and it makes no sense to suggest there's something wrong with that perspective. The latest NYTimes story is headlined, Malaysia Jet Changed Course at Time of Disappearance, Officials Say. Some officials, that is. As if there weren't enough confusion already, the reports are conflicting: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html?hp Perspective? Sure, people across the globe are dropping like flies from heart attacks, road accidents, old age . . . but an aircraft vanishing without trace is a MYSTERY and mysteries are fun to solve! Think Amelia Earhart - we're still trying to work out what happened to her and she vanished in 1937.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
(3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under Control On March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
I didn't stay in Manila long, perhaps 4 months but long enough to see a bunch of very interesting pshycic healers one of whom put his arm up to his elbow into my chest (I got a photo of this) and doing a candlelit sing-song for President Marcos in his Palace. Of course this dictator didn't last very long once he got Maharishi's attention. He fled the country with a fatal disease, as did The Shah only weeks after we arrived in Teheran. But they both bowed out graciously and left their nations without resistance on the outer planes, which of course was a huge and expected victory for Maharishi and the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yep, Sangley Point - used to take the launch across Manila Bay to shop at the PX there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have a friend who has been doing TM for many years - he lived in the Philippines in the 60's - said he lived on Sangley point and went to John Paul Jones High school. His old man was an admiral in the US Navy and by coincidence they were Catholic and real good friends with the infamous Cardinal Sin, the one who used to crack on TM. Bill said they often visited the Cardinal at his home who would always answer the door himself with a big smile and the words Welcome the house of Sin! On Tue, 3/11/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 4:56 AM It must be disheartening to see what has happened in the Philippines, the further consolidation of power, and rise of discord. Though, even when I was there (Pres. Marcos years), a group of religious fanatics came to Manila, from the provinces, and began an uprising, with the mistaken belief that the magic amulets they wore around their necks, would save them from any bullets fired their way. I think most of the violence occurred around Taft Avenue, with the US Embassy on Rojas Boulevard also attacked. Aside from this bizarre incident, the greatest threat to the government back then, were the communist-backed Hukbalahap, or Huks, though they were not that active. No problems with Muslims, at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Doc, Since you were there yourself, you can understand generally what I'm saying. But I believe nobody really knows how the country is going to evolve in the future. The political dynamics of the country are very confusing and it's a miracle there hasn't been a violent revolution to wipe out the present regime. Yes, my family came from there and left the country in 1963 to live here in the US. I have not always been critical about the Philippines until I recently experienced the realities of life there when I recently went back in 2006 for a visit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting stuff, though I think political evolution has more to do with the Philippines' corruption. Whenever a country is occupied, the occupiers build relationships with the most powerful families in the country. Then, when independence is gained, guess who leads the government? The Philippines has never had much of a middle class, either, making the divide between the powerful and the common people, much larger than here. I recall you are from there? I lived there 1966-1969, outside Manila, near Quezon City. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Twice as many people died of flu after the first world war than died in the fighting. More Israeli's have been killed in car crashes than in wars. I think we as a species don't assess risk very well and put higher emphasis on sudden calamity. I know people who smoke that are scared of flying... Perhaps a tragedy like this affects people more because it's something that might happen to them? Obviously dying happens to everyone but an unexpected disaster is a bit more raw and real than more mundane ways of passing over.. But here's something fascinating for you: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Perspective. The Malaysia flight 370 seems to dominate the news, with essentially no real information on what happened. There were 239 people on the flight including the crew. Somewhere between 145,000 and 155,000 people die on Earth every day from various causes, that's 6,000 to about 6,500 per hour. That is a lot more grief for many still living than a single aeroplane.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Maharishi was once asked about big accidents like this and replied: If they should go why not go together ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Perspective. The Malaysia flight 370 seems to dominate the news, with essentially no real information on what happened. There were 239 people on the flight including the crew. Somewhere between 145,000 and 155,000 people die on Earth every day from various causes, that's 6,000 to about 6,500 per hour. That is a lot more grief for many still living than a single aeroplane.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
Share, I'm saying that knowledge can transform the life of the individual in the way he or she thinks and acts, which are indicated in the jyotish chart. This knowledge can be gained by gaining the experience of the fourth state of consciousness, which is samadhi or transcendental consiousness. As this experience is gained, the person could objectively see what his or her personal assets and weaknesses are. It is like you looking at your own chart on the table and understanding why you think and act a certain way in in specific situations. With this knowledge, you can perform work that is more beneficial for you in terms of enjoyment and financial reward. Similarly, you can avoid work or situations that are not beneficial for you in terms well-being and investment of time and money. These are just the advantages from a personal point of view. But there is also the support of Nature that has to be considered. If your activities are not doing any harm and are beneficial, then you should see the positive effects as well among your friends, relatives and the environment. If not, then Nature and circumstances will give you hints to abandon certain actions or projects in terms of delays and resistance from other people and the environment. I believe this is the reason why MMY and other vedic texts have stated that one should act while in TC or samadhi: yogastah kuru karmani. This is the formula to transform the individual and the country. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, what I've heard is that in a chart, every so called negative aspect has a positive expression. As we evolve, we express the positive side of that aspect more and more. I think that's what you were saying. Did I get it right? On Monday, March 10, 2014 9:15 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: MJ, For all human beings, the national charts included, the level of the personal and national consciousness would have to be considered. The higher the level of consciousness, the better would the person or country be able to find the creative solutions to his or its problems. In essence, the level of consciousness determines the moral value or guiding principles of the person or country which could transform the way actions are done for better or worse. So, in a way, the chart can be transformed depending on the state of consciousness of the individual or nation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So does that mean that anyone no matter who would be corrupt cause it shows up in the chart? The people can't help it? On Mon, 3/10/14, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 10, 2014, 11:14 PM I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Ahem. Do you people SEE what I was talking about in my How to deal with confrontation junkies post? Judy (stupidly) is following through and reacting to Share failing to fall for her provocations and argue with her by doubling down and trying to insult and taunt and defame her into doing so once again. In other words, Judy is FREAKING OUT because she wasn't able to run her Argue with me...PLEASE! act. Share seems to have wised up and doesn't fall for it, and Judy simply cannot handle that. But, rather than re-evaluate her own behavior, she just doubles down and tries to perpetuate it. Classic Robin. If she follows through on her slavish devotion to his methods, the next step will be to start to write 5,000-10,000 word diatribes against Share (not to mention the others who called her on her obvious attempts to restart the argumentation today) to try to force her (or us) into replying in the form Judy wants, which is *clearly* the one-to-one confrontational argument mode I described earlier. DON'T FALL FOR IT, SHARE. And you others out there...you *know* by now that sooner or later she'll try the same routine on YOU, too, and try to get YOU to fall for her provocations and enter into one of the head-to-head arguments she lives for. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Whether you like Judy or don't like her, do what is best for her. That is, don't allow her to keep running this same tired, angry-old-maid-looking-for-attention-in-the-only-way-she-knows-how-to-get-it routine. What she WANTS is the same thing that her cult guru Robin wanted -- to suck people into endless arguments in which she can prove (in her twisted mind, at least) that she is superior to them. If that's your idea of a good time, having seen her act out this routine endless times on this forum, then by all means fall into her trap and perpetuate the squabbling and petty ego-nonsense she seems to live for. If you'd like this forum to get past that kind of pettiness, then just do what I suggested earlier. IGNORE THE PROVOCATIONS. Treat them as what they are -- the desperate ploys of a lonely, not-completely-sane old woman to get attention in the form of people arguing with her, about petty shit that almost NO ONE would consider sane, or worth arguing about. Starve her out. JUST SAY NO to her endless taunts and argument-starters. And then sit back and watch what she does when that happens. This post of hers was an example of the kind of freak-out that will happen. If you want more, just follow my advice. But it's up to you, of course. If you really *enjoy* all the petty squabbling she seems to live for, then by all means fall for her taunts and allow yourself to be sucked into yet another of her endless arguments. If you think that this forum has more to offer than that kind of insanity, don't. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm OK, Share, let's see these indications. Put up or shut up. (She won't put up, because she doesn't have any such indications; but she won't shut up either. Such integrity. So saintly. So nicey-nice.) In this post, I was pointing out something you don't want to have pointed out, which is that you profess to admire a person who constantly tells lies about other people. I was curious as to whether you would cop to this, which of course you have not. You are, I suspect, just as happy to have folks think Emily was trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet, so you aren't going to correct Richard's disingenuous suggestion. Instead we get this bafflegabbing attack on me. With regard to Buck, as you know, my issue there had to do with your claiming you knew what he meant when he characterized Bevan as a tragic figure. I doubted that, and I was right. You offered two versions of what he meant, both of which significantly missed the mark, as we found out when he told us what he did mean. But you will not acknowledge that you got it wrong. (And I made the point, by the way, that you and Buck had both attended, whereas Feste and I had not. So stop trying to make it seem as if I hadn't made that clear right up front. That was my whole point, after all, that I found Buck more credible than you because he doesn't try to idealize Bevan.) Emily is so right in everything she says about you, Share. You are the least straightforward, least authentic person I've ever encountered. Emily doesn't say this, but I will: You are a deeply, deeply dishonest, morally corrupt individual and not who you pretend to be. And I will continue to make an issue of it, so learn to live with it. Judy, it's pointless for you to present yourself as the upholder of truth and accurate descriptions. Even in this thread I've seen indications that you are far from that. Except in your own deluded
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
And we know that dying in a plane crash comes pretty close to the top of people's nightmare scenarios. Add in the possibility of terrorist involvement or, even scarier(?), a suicidal pilot and thinking about it could keep you awake nights.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Francis Wants to Study Civil Unions
Mike, I think the Church operates with the principle of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So, it will only address those specific issues that are causing trouble or confusion among its flock. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Well...I was hoping he would look into that whole *ten commandments* thing. It's about time we, as humans, bring God's thinking in line with how we think we should live. On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:39 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: But I don't think he's going to accept same-sex unions as valid. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-dolan-gay-marriage-150312090.html http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-dolan-gay-marriage-150312090.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
Nabs, What did the healer do and did it work? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I didn't stay in Manila long, perhaps 4 months but long enough to see a bunch of very interesting pshycic healers one of whom put his arm up to his elbow into my chest (I got a photo of this) and doing a candlelit sing-song for President Marcos in his Palace. Of course this dictator didn't last very long once he got Maharishi's attention. He fled the country with a fatal disease, as did The Shah only weeks after we arrived in Teheran. But they both bowed out graciously and left their nations without resistance on the outer planes, which of course was a huge and expected victory for Maharishi and the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yep, Sangley Point - used to take the launch across Manila Bay to shop at the PX there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have a friend who has been doing TM for many years - he lived in the Philippines in the 60's - said he lived on Sangley point and went to John Paul Jones High school. His old man was an admiral in the US Navy and by coincidence they were Catholic and real good friends with the infamous Cardinal Sin, the one who used to crack on TM. Bill said they often visited the Cardinal at his home who would always answer the door himself with a big smile and the words Welcome the house of Sin! On Tue, 3/11/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 4:56 AM It must be disheartening to see what has happened in the Philippines, the further consolidation of power, and rise of discord. Though, even when I was there (Pres. Marcos years), a group of religious fanatics came to Manila, from the provinces, and began an uprising, with the mistaken belief that the magic amulets they wore around their necks, would save them from any bullets fired their way. I think most of the violence occurred around Taft Avenue, with the US Embassy on Rojas Boulevard also attacked. Aside from this bizarre incident, the greatest threat to the government back then, were the communist-backed Hukbalahap, or Huks, though they were not that active. No problems with Muslims, at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Doc, Since you were there yourself, you can understand generally what I'm saying. But I believe nobody really knows how the country is going to evolve in the future. The political dynamics of the country are very confusing and it's a miracle there hasn't been a violent revolution to wipe out the present regime. Yes, my family came from there and left the country in 1963 to live here in the US. I have not always been critical about the Philippines until I recently experienced the realities of life there when I recently went back in 2006 for a visit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting stuff, though I think political evolution has more to do with the Philippines' corruption. Whenever a country is occupied, the occupiers build relationships with the most powerful families in the country. Then, when independence is gained, guess who leads the government? The Philippines has never had much of a middle class, either, making the divide between the powerful and the common people, much larger than here. I recall you are from there? I lived there 1966-1969, outside Manila, near Quezon City. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today. Essentially, the Vatican has much influence in shaping the thinking of the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Wow, two of these in one day. Barry's irrational obsession with me has completely taken him over, and his delusional fantasies keep getting more and more elaborate. He can't stand it when he aims one of his lunatic diatribes at me and I just dismiss it in a couple of sentences, as I did this morning and am doing now. Ahem. Do you people SEE what I was talking about in my How to deal with confrontation junkies post? Judy (stupidly) is following through and reacting to Share failing to fall for her provocations and argue with her by doubling down and trying to insult and taunt and defame her into doing so once again. In other words, Judy is FREAKING OUT because she wasn't able to run her Argue with me...PLEASE! act. Share seems to have wised up and doesn't fall for it, and Judy simply cannot handle that. But, rather than re-evaluate her own behavior, she just doubles down and tries to perpetuate it. Classic Robin. If she follows through on her slavish devotion to his methods, the next step will be to start to write 5,000-10,000 word diatribes against Share (not to mention the others who called her on her obvious attempts to restart the argumentation today) to try to force her (or us) into replying in the form Judy wants, which is *clearly* the one-to-one confrontational argument mode I described earlier. DON'T FALL FOR IT, SHARE. And you others out there...you *know* by now that sooner or later she'll try the same routine on YOU, too, and try to get YOU to fall for her provocations and enter into one of the head-to-head arguments she lives for. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Whether you like Judy or don't like her, do what is best for her. That is, don't allow her to keep running this same tired, angry-old-maid-looking-for-attention-in-the-only-way-she-knows-how-to-get-it routine. What she WANTS is the same thing that her cult guru Robin wanted -- to suck people into endless arguments in which she can prove (in her twisted mind, at least) that she is superior to them. If that's your idea of a good time, having seen her act out this routine endless times on this forum, then by all means fall into her trap and perpetuate the squabbling and petty ego-nonsense she seems to live for. If you'd like this forum to get past that kind of pettiness, then just do what I suggested earlier. IGNORE THE PROVOCATIONS. Treat them as what they are -- the desperate ploys of a lonely, not-completely-sane old woman to get attention in the form of people arguing with her, about petty shit that almost NO ONE would consider sane, or worth arguing about. Starve her out. JUST SAY NO to her endless taunts and argument-starters. And then sit back and watch what she does when that happens. This post of hers was an example of the kind of freak-out that will happen. If you want more, just follow my advice. But it's up to you, of course. If you really *enjoy* all the petty squabbling she seems to live for, then by all means fall for her taunts and allow yourself to be sucked into yet another of her endless arguments. If you think that this forum has more to offer than that kind of insanity, don't. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm OK, Share, let's see these indications. Put up or shut up. (She won't put up, because she doesn't have any such indications; but she won't shut up either. Such integrity. So saintly. So nicey-nice.) In this post, I was pointing out something you don't want to have pointed out, which is that you profess to admire a person who constantly tells lies about other people. I was curious as to whether you would cop to this, which of course you have not. You are, I suspect, just as happy to have folks think Emily was trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet, so you aren't going to correct Richard's disingenuous suggestion. Instead we get this bafflegabbing attack on me. With regard to Buck, as you know, my issue there had to do with your claiming you knew what he meant when he characterized Bevan as a tragic figure. I doubted that, and I was right. You offered two versions of what he meant, both of which significantly missed the mark, as we found out when he told us what he did mean. But you will not acknowledge that you got it wrong. (And I made the point, by the way, that you and Buck had both attended, whereas Feste and I had not. So stop trying to make it seem as if I hadn't made that clear right up front. That was my whole point, after all, that I found Buck more credible than you because he doesn't try to idealize Bevan.) Emily is so right in everything she says about you, Share. You are the least straightforward, least authentic person I've ever encountered. Emily doesn't say this, but I will: You are a deeply, deeply dishonest, morally corrupt
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Yes Nabby, I heard this one too (via tape). Maybe our innate sense (or at least desire) of immortality gets a bit more ruffled when a group perishes suddenly. The thought maybe this place (Earth) isn't so safe after all, and thus 'Iam not safe' comes bubbling up to the surface. I briefly had a part time job on Alameda Island in the San Francisco area. One day a military jet crashed into an apartment building on the island, rather far from where I worked. I drove by the next day - no building. There had been a terrific fire from the jet fuel. But the crash only covered the area of the building, the jet came down vertically. About a dozen people died. It was thought that a spark ignited the hose on the pilot's oxygen mask, so there was an internal fire of some kind in the cockpit very near the pilot's mask because the pilot dropped out of formation suddenly without warning or communication. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vk1iwoIIOys/Ux64KmmwQoI/El4/xnBhReQnbLQ/s1600/31gwFls.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vk1iwoIIOys/Ux64KmmwQoI/El4/xnBhReQnbLQ/s1600/31gwFls.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dqTXvKl_39E/Ux64Q0_BiHI/EmI/7yGmZSX6k28/s1600/qYDKcnO.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dqTXvKl_39E/Ux64Q0_BiHI/EmI/7yGmZSX6k28/s1600/qYDKcnO.jpg ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Maharishi was once asked about big accidents like this and replied: If they should go why not go together ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Perspective. The Malaysia flight 370 seems to dominate the news, with essentially no real information on what happened. There were 239 people on the flight including the crew. Somewhere between 145,000 and 155,000 people die on Earth every day from various causes, that's 6,000 to about 6,500 per hour. That is a lot more grief for many still living than a single aeroplane.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Barry, I suggest that you relax a little and recognize that your perceptions are sounding paranoid. Are you feeling angry today? Is it a nice day in Leiden? Do those dogs need a walk? Maybe a little music will help today. Classical might be good choice for you today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Wow, two of these in one day. Barry's irrational obsession with me has completely taken him over, and his delusional fantasies keep getting more and more elaborate. He can't stand it when he aims one of his lunatic diatribes at me and I just dismiss it in a couple of sentences, as I did this morning and am doing now. Ahem. Do you people SEE what I was talking about in my How to deal with confrontation junkies post? Judy (stupidly) is following through and reacting to Share failing to fall for her provocations and argue with her by doubling down and trying to insult and taunt and defame her into doing so once again. In other words, Judy is FREAKING OUT because she wasn't able to run her Argue with me...PLEASE! act. Share seems to have wised up and doesn't fall for it, and Judy simply cannot handle that. But, rather than re-evaluate her own behavior, she just doubles down and tries to perpetuate it. Classic Robin. If she follows through on her slavish devotion to his methods, the next step will be to start to write 5,000-10,000 word diatribes against Share (not to mention the others who called her on her obvious attempts to restart the argumentation today) to try to force her (or us) into replying in the form Judy wants, which is *clearly* the one-to-one confrontational argument mode I described earlier. DON'T FALL FOR IT, SHARE. And you others out there...you *know* by now that sooner or later she'll try the same routine on YOU, too, and try to get YOU to fall for her provocations and enter into one of the head-to-head arguments she lives for. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Whether you like Judy or don't like her, do what is best for her. That is, don't allow her to keep running this same tired, angry-old-maid-looking-for-attention-in-the-only-way-she-knows-how-to-get-it routine. What she WANTS is the same thing that her cult guru Robin wanted -- to suck people into endless arguments in which she can prove (in her twisted mind, at least) that she is superior to them. If that's your idea of a good time, having seen her act out this routine endless times on this forum, then by all means fall into her trap and perpetuate the squabbling and petty ego-nonsense she seems to live for. If you'd like this forum to get past that kind of pettiness, then just do what I suggested earlier. IGNORE THE PROVOCATIONS. Treat them as what they are -- the desperate ploys of a lonely, not-completely-sane old woman to get attention in the form of people arguing with her, about petty shit that almost NO ONE would consider sane, or worth arguing about. Starve her out. JUST SAY NO to her endless taunts and argument-starters. And then sit back and watch what she does when that happens. This post of hers was an example of the kind of freak-out that will happen. If you want more, just follow my advice. But it's up to you, of course. If you really *enjoy* all the petty squabbling she seems to live for, then by all means fall for her taunts and allow yourself to be sucked into yet another of her endless arguments. If you think that this forum has more to offer than that kind of insanity, don't. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm OK, Share, let's see these indications. Put up or shut up. (She won't put up, because she doesn't have any such indications; but she won't shut up either. Such integrity. So saintly. So nicey-nice.) In this post, I was pointing out something you don't want to have pointed out, which is that you profess to admire a person who constantly tells lies about other people. I was curious as to whether you would cop to this, which of course you have not. You are, I suspect, just as happy to have folks think Emily was trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet, so you aren't going to correct Richard's disingenuous suggestion. Instead we get this bafflegabbing attack on me. With regard to Buck, as you know, my issue there had to do with your claiming you knew what he meant when he characterized Bevan as a tragic figure. I doubted that, and I was right. You offered two versions of what he meant, both of which significantly missed the mark, as we found out when he told us what he did mean. But you will not acknowledge that you got it wrong. (And I made the point, by the way, that you and Buck had both attended, whereas Feste and I had not. So stop trying to make it seem as if I hadn't made that clear right up front. That was my whole
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Some expert made the point that flying is so safe these days--because so many of the kinks have been worked out--that any major mishap involving a big commercial plane is likely to be a mystery, at least at first, and possibly permanently, almost guaranteed to have been caused by something unusual (like a suicidal pilot). They do seem to have ruled out terrorism involving the two dudes with stolen passports, for whatever that's worth. They checked out their histories and current situations, and they appear to be (have been?) pretty ordinary guys. And we know that dying in a plane crash comes pretty close to the top of people's nightmare scenarios. Add in the possibility of terrorist involvement or, even scarier(?), a suicidal pilot and thinking about it could keep you awake nights.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote
nothing but bullshit - the ouster of Marcos owes far more to Cardinal Sin than Marshy On Tue, 3/11/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:47 PM I didn't stay in Manila long, perhaps 4 months but long enough to see a bunch of very interesting pshycic healers one of whom put his arm up to his elbow into my chest (I got a photo of this) and doing a candlelit sing-song for President Marcos in his Palace. Of course this dictator didn't last very long once he got Maharishi's attention. He fled the country with a fatal disease, as did The Shah only weeks after we arrived in Teheran. But they both bowed out graciously and left their nations without resistance on the outer planes, which of course was a huge and expected victory for Maharishi and the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yep, Sangley Point - used to take the launch across Manila Bay to shop at the PX there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have a friend who has been doing TM for many years - he lived in the Philippines in the 60's - said he lived on Sangley point and went to John Paul Jones High school. His old man was an admiral in the US Navy and by coincidence they were Catholic and real good friends with the infamous Cardinal Sin, the one who used to crack on TM. Bill said they often visited the Cardinal at his home who would always answer the door himself with a big smile and the words Welcome the house of Sin! On Tue, 3/11/14, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kim Jong Un Wins by Unanimous Vote To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 4:56 AM It must be disheartening to see what has happened in the Philippines, the further consolidation of power, and rise of discord. Though, even when I was there (Pres. Marcos years), a group of religious fanatics came to Manila, from the provinces, and began an uprising, with the mistaken belief that the magic amulets they wore around their necks, would save them from any bullets fired their way. I think most of the violence occurred around Taft Avenue, with the US Embassy on Rojas Boulevard also attacked. Aside from this bizarre incident, the greatest threat to the government back then, were the communist-backed Hukbalahap, or Huks, though they were not that active. No problems with Muslims, at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Doc, Since you were there yourself, you can understand generally what I'm saying. But I believe nobody really knows how the country is going to evolve in the future. The political dynamics of the country are very confusing and it's a miracle there hasn't been a violent revolution to wipe out the present regime. Yes, my family came from there and left the country in 1963 to live here in the US. I have not always been critical about the Philippines until I recently experienced the realities of life there when I recently went back in 2006 for a visit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting stuff, though I think political evolution has more to do with the Philippines' corruption. Whenever a country is occupied, the occupiers build relationships with the most powerful families in the country. Then, when independence is gained, guess who leads the government? The Philippines has never had much of a middle class, either, making the divide between the powerful and the common people, much larger than here. I recall you are from there? I lived there 1966-1969, outside Manila, near Quezon City. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I did the national chart of the Philippines, which gained its independence from the USA on July 4, 1946. The chart shows why the government is corrupt. Specifically, Rahu is exalted in the 9th house, the significator for the seat of government. While there is a hope of the country for being knowledgeable in high technology, it is still mired in the unfortunate corruption of its government officials. It's also interesting to note that Rahu represents the adopted religion of the country which is Catholicism, a faith that was not indigenous to the country, but was brought in by the Spaniards in 1521. And, the religion is still very powerful in the country today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
That was a pretty long post Barry. I notice that it is about 9:00 pm where you are so you are close to the time where you disappear from the forum until morning. You post less while you are working. If we could all write as fast as you, we could swamp her with material like Richard did a while back. A computer program would be better, automatically assembling stock phrases from your previous efforts, and others, and then posting them non stop. I am not doing anything creative today, just shredding old documents. The shredder is not powerful enough for a human being though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : [text compacted version for those of you with ADD] Judy (stupidly) is following through and reacting to Share failing to fall for her provocations and argue with her by doubling down and trying to insult and taunt and defame her into doing so once again. If she follows through on her slavish devotion to his methods, the next step will be to start to write 5,000-10,000 word diatribes against Share (not to mention the others who called her on her obvious attempts to restart the argumentation today) to try to force her (or us) into replying in the form Judy wants, which is *clearly* the one-to-one confrontational argument mode I described earlier. And you others out there...you *know* by now that sooner or later she'll try the same routine on YOU, too, and try to get YOU to fall for her provocations and enter into one of the head-to-head arguments she lives for.
Re: [FairfieldLife] AIRPLANE BLUES
On 3/11/2014 12:31 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a lot more grief for many still living than a single aeroplane. Sure, but try telling that to the angry families of the passengers. The airline allowed at least two people with stolen passports to board the flight and security didn't even check the stolen passport database. Go figure. Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers’ numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up. Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/vanished-malaysia-airlines-flight-leaves-relatives-with-anger-and-phantom-phone-calls http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vanished-malaysia-airlines-flight-leaves-relatives-with-anger-and-phantom-phone-calls/2014/03/10/fdb78642-a862-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Yes, I just checked the time in Leiden. 9:20 pm. Barry, maybe an evening walk, or an early night with lots of sleep. Maybe leave the bier alone and try a cup of chamomile tea. I'll pray for you. Smile.
[FairfieldLife] President Barack Obama Between Two Ferns
Really. The prez as a guest on the worst TV talk show in the world, Zack Galafanakis' Between Two Ferns. HIlarious. http://www.upworthy.com/president-obama-burns-a-rude-celebrity-and-then-teaches-him-how-to-get-it-treated?g=2c=ufb1 http://www.upworthy.com/president-obama-burns-a-rude-celebrity-and-then-teaches-him-how-to-get-it-treated?g=2c=ufb1
