Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
I will be more than pleased when that little corporate elitist goes tripping off on his endless love me party cycle, once out of office. Can't wait. Because of his misplaced allegiance, to his second term, he blatantly sold out people like me. I now pay $4k annually, for medical insurance, that does not comply with Obamacare. My Obamacare insurance tripled, and I can no longer afford it ($12k per year!). So, while insured, I am still liable for his ever increasing fines, each year. Nice job, dickhead. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Giddy-up? LOL
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
Good rap. My only question is, Whose mother exactly was it who slept with a dog, and what breed of dog was it? Genetics are important. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism I tend not to agree with Barry about free will, but then this is a subject whose resolution seems impossible to determine. One of my early spiritual experiences was about free will and determinism. My interpretation of that experience was that they were equivalent, like the faces on the same coin, differing views of the same process. I had been having experiences like this for about two years. I had also just learned TM a few weeks before, and it did not seem to be the trigger for such experiences, though it may have greased the wheels a bit. Experiences like this come when the mind is fully engaged with the world. One of the first spiritual techniques I encountered were insults. Now normally insults do not result in spiritual awakening or even understanding, but in a proper context they can. I do not think FFL, even though it nominally is about spirituality, is a useful context. Insults in a useful context however can highlight conditioned responses. Whether or not there is such a thing as free will, the human sense of freedom depends on how many output options we have available for a given input. With some people, if you say to them, 'you are a fucking goddamn ass hole, and your mother slept with a dog' your best option is probably to run for your life. So I was sitting with this group, doing guided meditations etc., before I learned Zen meditation, and before other techniques and before I learned TM, and the instructor started hurling insults. Some people got really upset, would stand up and say they felt really insulted and that they deserved some respect. They did not get any. But later on it became evident that this was a technique to highlight one's conditioned responses to verbal input. It was the context of this particular event that made the insults a piece of valuable information and experience, because what followed them provided the insight into what was really happening in our minds. The following historical story highlights a use of the technique: The Prime Minister of the Tang Dynasty was a national hero for his success as both a statesman and military leader. But despite his fame, power, and wealth, he considered himself a humble and devout Buddhist. Often he visited his favourite Zen master to study under him, and they seemed to get along very well. The fact that he was prime minister apparently had no effect on their relationship, which seemed to be simply one of a revered master and respectful student. One day, during his usual visit, the Prime Minister asked the master, Your Reverence, what is egotism according to Buddhism? The master's face turned red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, What kind of stupid question is that!? This unexpected response so shocked the Prime Minister that he became sullen and angry. The Zen master then smiled and said, THIS, Your Excellency, is egotism. Take a thermostat. It has basically one or two outputs to input. The temperature goes down, it closes a circuit and starts a heater; when the temperature rises, it opens the circuit and the heater stops. A slightly more complex system adds cooling: if the room gets too warm, it starts air conditioning as well. Some people do have about this many options to respond to input, even though the neural networks in the brain are far far more complex than a thermostat. Part of spiritual discipline is dealing consciously with one's conditioning that limits responses. Now in TM philosophy, the processes of de-conditioning, and the understanding of conditioning do not seem so overtly expressed as in some other traditions. In Zen, koans deal with various facets of the mind's conditioning by forcing an experience that goes beyond bipolar logic. On FFL, most responses to certain kinds of verbal input, what appears to be an insult, is simply to respond with another insult. Thus you have elevated your consciousness to the status of a simple thermostat. So part of the game of 'becoming free' is to widen options of response to inputs. We have lots of conditioned responses, some of them hard wired (the knee jerk reflex for example), but quite a lot are programmed into us by our parents and culture. Look at any government where there are parliaments with two more or less equal parties with opposing views, and you can predict responses of the two sides fairly accurately. Spiritual practises like meditation help to loosen the mind's grip in this respect, but some form of conscious highlighting the fact we have such conditioned
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
As a more serious reply, the effect of language on people is (obviously) a continuing interest of mine as well. It's fascinating to see how the use of a simple Anglo-Saxon word can completely turn off higher brain functions in the person it is spoken or written to, and reduce them to an angry, reactive, unthinking, out-of-control revenge machine. I keep hoping that some of them will catch themselves, as the Prime Minister in your Zen story presumably did, and actually learn something from their own reactivity and how it renders them puppets to anyone who can suss out their trigger words, but they never do. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism I tend not to agree with Barry about free will, but then this is a subject whose resolution seems impossible to determine. One of my early spiritual experiences was about free will and determinism. My interpretation of that experience was that they were equivalent, like the faces on the same coin, differing views of the same process. I had been having experiences like this for about two years. I had also just learned TM a few weeks before, and it did not seem to be the trigger for such experiences, though it may have greased the wheels a bit. Experiences like this come when the mind is fully engaged with the world. One of the first spiritual techniques I encountered were insults. Now normally insults do not result in spiritual awakening or even understanding, but in a proper context they can. I do not think FFL, even though it nominally is about spirituality, is a useful context. Insults in a useful context however can highlight conditioned responses. Whether or not there is such a thing as free will, the human sense of freedom depends on how many output options we have available for a given input. With some people, if you say to them, 'you are a fucking goddamn ass hole, and your mother slept with a dog' your best option is probably to run for your life. So I was sitting with this group, doing guided meditations etc., before I learned Zen meditation, and before other techniques and before I learned TM, and the instructor started hurling insults. Some people got really upset, would stand up and say they felt really insulted and that they deserved some respect. They did not get any. But later on it became evident that this was a technique to highlight one's conditioned responses to verbal input. It was the context of this particular event that made the insults a piece of valuable information and experience, because what followed them provided the insight into what was really happening in our minds. The following historical story highlights a use of the technique: The Prime Minister of the Tang Dynasty was a national hero for his success as both a statesman and military leader. But despite his fame, power, and wealth, he considered himself a humble and devout Buddhist. Often he visited his favourite Zen master to study under him, and they seemed to get along very well. The fact that he was prime minister apparently had no effect on their relationship, which seemed to be simply one of a revered master and respectful student. One day, during his usual visit, the Prime Minister asked the master, Your Reverence, what is egotism according to Buddhism? The master's face turned red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, What kind of stupid question is that!? This unexpected response so shocked the Prime Minister that he became sullen and angry. The Zen master then smiled and said, THIS, Your Excellency, is egotism. Take a thermostat. It has basically one or two outputs to input. The temperature goes down, it closes a circuit and starts a heater; when the temperature rises, it opens the circuit and the heater stops. A slightly more complex system adds cooling: if the room gets too warm, it starts air conditioning as well. Some people do have about this many options to respond to input, even though the neural networks in the brain are far far more complex than a thermostat. Part of spiritual discipline is dealing consciously with one's conditioning that limits responses. Now in TM philosophy, the processes of de-conditioning, and the understanding of conditioning do not seem so overtly expressed as in some other traditions. In Zen, koans deal with various facets of the mind's conditioning by forcing an experience that goes beyond bipolar logic. On FFL, most responses to certain kinds of verbal input, what appears to be an insult, is simply to respond with another insult. Thus you have elevated your consciousness to the status of a simple thermostat. So part of the game of 'becoming free' is to widen options of response to inputs. We have lots of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
The Obama fellow is all hat no cattle. His non-delivery of promises is no surprise in esoteric circles though, and his Nobel Peace prize is a joke. Seems like the the head of that committee is getting fired next year. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I will be more than pleased when that little corporate elitist goes tripping off on his endless love me party cycle, once out of office. Can't wait. Because of his misplaced allegiance, to his second term, he blatantly sold out people like me. I now pay $4k annually, for medical insurance, that does not comply with Obamacare. My Obamacare insurance tripled, and I can no longer afford it ($12k per year!). So, while insured, I am still liable for his ever increasing fines, each year. Nice job, dickhead. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bernie in Iowa
Is Bernie Sanders a meditator? Would the meditating community as a bloc vote for a socialist? What interest would meditators and other real spiritual people have in Bernie Sanders? -Buck Raunchydog posts: Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s largest fundraiser of the year. This is not an event to be missed! There will be a pre-dinner social hour with Congressman Dave Loebsack and Senator Jack Hatch, followed by dinner and a keynote address by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. If you cannot obtain tickets online, please contact Jean Pardee at 242-8111 or jmpardee@... Bernie Sanders may also be heard on Fairfield Iowa’s community radio station, KRUU-FM KRUU’s Dennis Raimondi is interviewing Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, May 13 . Speaking Freely airs Tuesdays 1pm-2pm CT [rebroadcast Thursday, 8am]. Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County Dems Event | Blog for Iowa http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County ... http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s larges... View on www.blogforiowa.com http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
That's a good one!
On Wed, 5/14/14, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in
2016?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 4:56 AM
Buck has had too much
to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody
take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse
tonight.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
And perhaps, Bucky, this topic IS of interest to spiritual seekers - life is
more than Omming in the Domes you know. You live that everyday out in the
fields when doing your farm work - and besides, you claim that FFL went in the
gutter when Rick let me in, so this post of raunchy's should be seen as a step
up!
On Wed, 5/14/14, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in
2016?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 4:17 AM
Buck, you're a disgrace. You inveigh against
spam but you don't even know what it
is.
And it's hard to
believe the dishonesty of referring to Alex as
A
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Ranchydog could certainly
attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to dumping
these posts here. She knows the rules. This is pure spam
and a lazy writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the
salon of spiritual and FFL conversation of FFL here
otherwise. Enforce the unifying code of FFL guidelines
Rick has given us about spamming FFL or you will let this
place down entirely into the gutter for lack of any
over-seeing moderating discipline. Beware the spammer and
spammer beware on FFL,
-Buck
No, you selectively copied that
out of context.
The guideline is:
Fairfield Life focuses
on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and
liberation everywhere.
-Buck
A FFL Moderator writes:
To refresh your
memory:
Pretty
much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of
discussion about American politics. We have discussed
spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher
states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs.
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma,
Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen,
tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy,
sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism,
Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology,
etc.
What part of Pretty
much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?
It is called spam, without any attempt at context.
Lacking attempt at context has long been a standard Rick
has used against spammers.
Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes
Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about
elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?
Or is it
spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL,
the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a
question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you
read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual
vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck
Raunchydog
writes:
With 2016
speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary
Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive
anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another
political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently
false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her.
Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny
that permeate our culture. Latest
talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme
#11: HER HEALTHDisgusting, unfounded
speculation.
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616
---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I
don't think there are extraordinary health issues with
Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class
of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he
chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then
wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she
had brain
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy,
and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW
Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says
it all. :-)
---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Karl
Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running
as president in the next election.
In her jyotish chart, it
shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first
house. So, that means that this health issue will be a
major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It
is likely that she will address this point on February 17,
2015 by announcing that she will not run for the
office.
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
Ha - good story --reminded me of the way Barry reacted, when jr posted that atheists cannot transcend. Seeing his over the top response, at the time, my first thought was that Barry has weak experiences, during meditation. Not a big deal to me, though this self-proclaimed, 'cult sociologist', has almost no significant personal experience, in the realm in which he claims to be an expert. His frustration, vs. his insights, are what drive his personality. I wonder if he ever cheats on himself, and does TM?? lol - A TM adulterer... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I tend not to agree with Barry about free will, but then this is a subject whose resolution seems impossible to determine. One of my early spiritual experiences was about free will and determinism. My interpretation of that experience was that they were equivalent, like the faces on the same coin, differing views of the same process. I had been having experiences like this for about two years. I had also just learned TM a few weeks before, and it did not seem to be the trigger for such experiences, though it may have greased the wheels a bit. Experiences like this come when the mind is fully engaged with the world. One of the first spiritual techniques I encountered were insults. Now normally insults do not result in spiritual awakening or even understanding, but in a proper context they can. I do not think FFL, even though it nominally is about spirituality, is a useful context. Insults in a useful context however can highlight conditioned responses. Whether or not there is such a thing as free will, the human sense of freedom depends on how many output options we have available for a given input. With some people, if you say to them, 'you are a fucking goddamn ass hole, and your mother slept with a dog' your best option is probably to run for your life. So I was sitting with this group, doing guided meditations etc., before I learned Zen meditation, and before other techniques and before I learned TM, and the instructor started hurling insults. Some people got really upset, would stand up and say they felt really insulted and that they deserved some respect. They did not get any. But later on it became evident that this was a technique to highlight one's conditioned responses to verbal input. It was the context of this particular event that made the insults a piece of valuable information and experience, because what followed them provided the insight into what was really happening in our minds. The following historical story highlights a use of the technique: The Prime Minister of the Tang Dynasty was a national hero for his success as both a statesman and military leader. But despite his fame, power, and wealth, he considered himself a humble and devout Buddhist. Often he visited his favourite Zen master to study under him, and they seemed to get along very well. The fact that he was prime minister apparently had no effect on their relationship, which seemed to be simply one of a revered master and respectful student. One day, during his usual visit, the Prime Minister asked the master, Your Reverence, what is egotism according to Buddhism? The master's face turned red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, What kind of stupid question is that!? This unexpected response so shocked the Prime Minister that he became sullen and angry. The Zen master then smiled and said, THIS, Your Excellency, is egotism. Take a thermostat. It has basically one or two outputs to input. The temperature goes down, it closes a circuit and starts a heater; when the temperature rises, it opens the circuit and the heater stops. A slightly more complex system adds cooling: if the room gets too warm, it starts air conditioning as well. Some people do have about this many options to respond to input, even though the neural networks in the brain are far far more complex than a thermostat. Part of spiritual discipline is dealing consciously with one's conditioning that limits responses. Now in TM philosophy, the processes of de-conditioning, and the understanding of conditioning do not seem so overtly expressed as in some other traditions. In Zen, koans deal with various facets of the mind's conditioning by forcing an experience that goes beyond bipolar logic. On FFL, most responses to certain kinds of verbal input, what appears to be an insult, is simply to respond with another insult. Thus you have elevated your consciousness to the status of a simple thermostat. So part of the game of 'becoming free' is to widen options of response to inputs. We have lots of conditioned responses, some of them hard wired (the knee jerk reflex for example), but quite a lot are programmed into us by our parents and culture. Look at any government
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Guilty! I voted for the little bastard. Oh well - still better than Scary Mitch and Paul, but I am so tired of voting for the best of the worst. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Obama fellow is all hat no cattle. His non-delivery of promises is no surprise in esoteric circles though, and his Nobel Peace prize is a joke. Seems like the the head of that committee is getting fired next year. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I will be more than pleased when that little corporate elitist goes tripping off on his endless love me party cycle, once out of office. Can't wait. Because of his misplaced allegiance, to his second term, he blatantly sold out people like me. I now pay $4k annually, for medical insurance, that does not comply with Obamacare. My Obamacare insurance tripled, and I can no longer afford it ($12k per year!). So, while insured, I am still liable for his ever increasing fines, each year. Nice job, dickhead. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
noozguru and Buck, I think everything is spiritual?! And all the political info is one of the aspects I appreciate about the Funny Farm Lounge (-: On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:19 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What part of topics of interest did you not understand? Do you think you are the only seeker here (or finder for that matter)? On 05/13/2014 07:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
And she's *brain* damaged! LOL! On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:32 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hillary is just another corporatist candidate. Wake up! On 05/13/2014 05:12 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hillary doesn't need young people to win. They don't vote unless it's for the Messiah. She needs independents, which is looking pretty good for her in the polls. 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | RealClearPolitics 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | R... 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination View on www.realclearpoliti...Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
If you voted for scary Mitch or Paul you wasted your vote. You should have tried voting for Romney! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:47 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Guilty! I voted for the little bastard. Oh well - still better than Scary Mitch and Paul, but I am so tired of voting for the best of the worst. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Obama fellow is all hat no cattle. His non-delivery of promises is no surprise in esoteric circles though, and his Nobel Peace prize is a joke. Seems like the the head of that committee is getting fired next year. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I will be more than pleased when that little corporate elitist goes tripping off on his endless love me party cycle, once out of office. Can't wait. Because of his misplaced allegiance, to his second term, he blatantly sold out people like me. I now pay $4k annually, for medical insurance, that does not comply with Obamacare. My Obamacare insurance tripled, and I can no longer afford it ($12k per year!). So, while insured, I am still liable for his ever increasing fines, each year. Nice job, dickhead. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
Question is, why would you want to suss out someone's trigger words? Why would you want to make a person your puppet? What kind of sick ego/power trip is that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : As a more serious reply, the effect of language on people is (obviously) a continuing interest of mine as well. It's fascinating to see how the use of a simple Anglo-Saxon word can completely turn off higher brain functions in the person it is spoken or written to, and reduce them to an angry, reactive, unthinking, out-of-control revenge machine. I keep hoping that some of them will catch themselves, as the Prime Minister in your Zen story presumably did, and actually learn something from their own reactivity and how it renders them puppets to anyone who can suss out their trigger words, but they never do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bernie in Iowa
Yes, the meditating community would vote for Sanders as a block if he would raid the US treasury and pay people to meditate in a group. Buying votes is common practice in politics these days. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:30 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Is Bernie Sanders a meditator? Would the meditating community as a bloc vote for a socialist? What interest would meditators and other real spiritual people have in Bernie Sanders? -Buck Raunchydog posts: Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s largest fundraiser of the year. This is not an event to be missed! There will be a pre-dinner social hour with Congressman Dave Loebsack and Senator Jack Hatch, followed by dinner and a keynote address by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. If you cannot obtain tickets online, please contact Jean Pardee at 242-8111 or jmpardee@... Bernie Sanders may also be heard on Fairfield Iowa’s community radio station, KRUU-FM KRUU’s Dennis Raimondi is interviewing Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, May 13 . Speaking Freely airs Tuesdays 1pm-2pm CT [rebroadcast Thursday, 8am]. Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County Dems Event | Blog for Iowa Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County ... Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s larges... View on www.blogforiowa.comPreview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Buck has had too much to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Buck hasn't won anything but the Pain in the Butt Award, IMHO. It's dishonest of him to claim Alex took what he quoted out of context. What's out of context is the single sentence Buck quoted, given that what Alex quoted specifies the sorts of topics that that sentence potentially includes. Buck doesn't get to define the topics the guideline refers to; Rick does--and has. Buck also needs to learn what spam is and is not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/13/2014 7:12 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hillary doesn't need young people to win. They don't vote unless it's for the Messiah. She needs independents, which is looking pretty good for her in the polls. Who her running mate is could make a big difference with the independents. It probably will have to be a former governor of a state. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
I suspect Crazy Uncle Buck knows he's a pain int he butt. He's just blowing smoke. Uncle Buck - He'll shave your head while you sleep http://youtu.be/Tx53siErDhQ http://youtu.be/Tx53siErDhQ Uncle Buck - He'll shave your head while you sleep http://youtu.be/Tx53siErDhQ Uncle Buck is a crazy, out of work, bum uncle who'll shave your head while you sleep View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/Tx53siErDhQ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Buck hasn't won anything but the Pain in the Butt Award, IMHO. It's dishonest of him to claim Alex took what he quoted out of context. What's out of context is the single sentence Buck quoted, given that what Alex quoted specifies the sorts of topics that that sentence potentially includes. Buck doesn't get to define the topics the guideline refers to; Rick does--and has. Buck also needs to learn what spam is and is not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/13/2014 8:45 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: Maybe we can just start listing the Hillary's accomplishments and let that speak for itself. Senator of New York Secretary of State --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/13/2014 4:51 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: The dumbass Democrats need to look for someone else, someone younger who will appeal to younger voters. But I don't think they get it any better than the Republicans do. Let's see, the Dems have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. The Repugs have Paul Ryan, Chirs Christie, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Rick Perry and Rand Paul. LoL! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
RD, I actually think that it's the American anathema towards smart people that will prevent Hillary from ever being elected. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:18 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 5/13/2014 8:45 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: Maybe we can just start listing the Hillary's accomplishments and let that speak for itself. Senator of New York Secretary of State This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Is it you or am I confused because I had a sandwich instead of a bowl of cereal this morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
RD, yes and no... On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:26 AM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Is it you or am I confused because I had a sandwich instead of a bowl of cereal this morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
John, I would posit that the hippie movement was a spiritual one in some ways, which included looking for inspiration but not from traditional religions. On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie movement was fairly strong. This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people on this earth.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Good one, Ann. Here's an old one for you: One day a horse walks into a bar. He looks at the bartender and says,Sam, get me the usual. Comin' right up, replied Sam. When the horse goes home he is all drunk. His wife takes him into the kitchen and says,Mike! Stop coming home drunk! I've told you this before, and I'm sick of it! If you come home drunk one more time and scare the kids, we're out of here! The next night, Mike goes back to the bar. This time he orders a root beer. Sam the bartender looks at him and says,Hey Mike, why the long face?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Personally, I just see Buck, cantering around the corral, and having some fun. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Buck hasn't won anything but the Pain in the Butt Award, IMHO. It's dishonest of him to claim Alex took what he quoted out of context. What's out of context is the single sentence Buck quoted, given that what Alex quoted specifies the sorts of topics that that sentence potentially includes. Buck doesn't get to define the topics the guideline refers to; Rick does--and has. Buck also needs to learn what spam is and is not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Lol.do not getit ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : hmmm, perhaps a spotted corgi... of course if you spotted the corgi at the right hand drive in a masked---uhh- Reliant Robin---has to be a spotted corgi in those parked around RRs there at your place no other free choice option--eh? Now I know why the French invented and use the compressed-air propulsion system first in history... Any idea you may contribute for the big B`s Maharishi Vedic Car design? In FFL slang and FFL finger pointing to the moon of fantasia : just curious ... Thanks for going along for a laugh... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you sure it was a dalmatian? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and I've seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger seat, looking as if the dog is driving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Britishjaguar, yes now owned by Tata Motors since 2008 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ The airy article says: They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air Car according to air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA a French -not British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so Tata (and other countries) licensed MDI's technology with the aim of producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented by Louis Mékarski and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways of Nantes in 1879. Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Preview by Yahoo No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance. The two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work both secretly hard on a design for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will tell you and confirm this: In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air. But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give always a helping hand for this kind of car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Preview by Yahoo Love and how you say--- have a nice day
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm158/?ref_=tt_trv_quForrest Gump for President. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : RD, I actually think that it's the American anathema towards smart people that will prevent Hillary from ever being elected. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:18 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 5/13/2014 8:45 PM, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: Maybe we can just start listing the Hillary's accomplishments and let that speak for itself. Senator of New York Secretary of State This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] TM and epigenetics
Dr. Schneider Speaks at Harvard, Johns Hopkins, U of Maryland The medical community continues to show keen interest in the connection between mind, body, and heart — and the effects of the Transcendental Meditation technique. In his most recent tour of top academic medical centers, MUM's Robert Schneider, MD, FACC, gave invited presentations at Harvard University, Johns Hopkins Medical Center, and the University of Maryland Medical School. More than ever before, the current generation of physicians and health professionals appreciates the new science of how the mind and brain affect the cardiovascular system and health. They see that the research is solid and that if you can manage your mind or consciousness, then you can manage your heart — they are connected, said Dr. Schneider, dean of the Maharishi College of Perfect Health. This generation of physicians is eager for new approaches to old medical problems. At Maryland Dr. Schneider was hosted by Sanjay Rajagopalan, MBBS, FACC, who heads the division of cardiovascular medicine. Dr. Schneider spent the day as a visiting professor presenting and teaching at grand rounds and exploring collaborations. Dr. Rajagopalan brought up for discussion how Consciousness-Based medicine brings together ancient Vedic knowledge and modern medicine, Dr. Schneider said. At Harvard School of Public Health, Dr. Schneider presented to 50 faculty and graduate students from the schools of public health and medicine. He was hosted by Andrea Baccarelli, MD, PhD, director of the Laboratory of Environmental Epigenetics. Dr. Baccarelli and his team explore epigenetics, i.e., factors that may modify how DNA is expressed. The Harvard and MUM teams plan to investigate how the Transcendental Meditation technique turns health-protective and anti-aging genes on or off. At Johns Hopkins-Bayview Medical Center, Dr. Schneider presented on mind-body-heart to the division of cardiology. While there, Dr. Schneider discussed the possibility of integrating the Transcendental Meditation technique into recovery programs for patients after a heart attack or heart surgery. Dr. Schneider's mind-body-heart tour will continue in the coming months at the Cleveland Clinic, Yale University, and the University of Chicago.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Got it, fleetwood! Your unbounded awareness does not include tap dancing. Better luck next time (-: On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:57 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck
Buck can meet me at the Iowa State Fair for a Spam Contest and I'll be looking around to see who’s gonna finish second. SPAM RECIPE: Iowa State Fair Blue Ribbon Contest http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ SPAM RECIPE: Iowa State Fair Blue Ribbon Contest http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ Hannah Toresdahl shared her award-winning recipe on Today in Iowa Saturday. View on whotv.com http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Question is, why would you want to suss out someone's trigger words? Why would you want to make a person your puppet? What kind of sick ego/power trip is that? Among the many things Bawee fails to suss out is that it is not the fact that insults are flung or make-believe labels placed on all sorts of people here by His Majesty the puppet master, but that some people just don't want to take it from Bawee, of all people. You can call me whatever you want, you can stand there and accuse me of any number of things that aren't true and it makes no difference to me. But when it's coming from numbnuts then the source is what makes all the difference, not the content. As for motivation on numbnut's part? Well, those who seek to push people around by using whatever means they can, irrespective of the truth or relevancy of it, indicates someone who has sadistic tendencies and pretty much lives to see others effected by what he does. This would further point in the relative direction of someone who feels impotent or has been badly abused himself and while I'm sorry for that it does feel like one is in the nuthouse around here at times having to witness this acting out day after day. I mean, when can we all get a break? In the normal world this guy would have been given a good spanking and sent to his room by now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : As a more serious reply, the effect of language on people is (obviously) a continuing interest of mine as well. It's fascinating to see how the use of a simple Anglo-Saxon word can completely turn off higher brain functions in the person it is spoken or written to, and reduce them to an angry, reactive, unthinking, out-of-control revenge machine. I keep hoping that some of them will catch themselves, as the Prime Minister in your Zen story presumably did, and actually learn something from their own reactivity and how it renders them puppets to anyone who can suss out their trigger words, but they never do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
That could be true for ordinary people but not for Yogis, They often get cancer when their Work here is over and they are needed elsewhere. Happenned to many, Guru Dev included. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
He's an independent but Bernie Sanders even at his age could win the millennial vote. On 05/14/2014 07:18 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 5/13/2014 4:51 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: The dumbass Democrats need to look for someone else, someone younger who will appeal to younger voters. But I don't think they get it any better than the Republicans do. Let's see, the Dems have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. The Repugs have Paul Ryan, Chirs Christie, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Rick Perry and Rand Paul. LoL! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
I didn't vote *for* Obama, I voted*against* Romney. On 05/13/2014 08:34 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond True and False
Thanks for following up, Anartaxius. I am time-limited myself, and won't be able to comment much on your musings, but I appreciated them. I agree that T/F is a simplistic approach to reality and experience that does not seem to be accurate, or even useful. If my experience with Rama and with other teachers/shamans who allowed me to access radically alternate realities -- and sometimes several at once -- had any value, it was to teach me that things can be true and false at the same time, and that neither in any way defines reality. I even suspect that this irrelevance of true/false might be at play when discussing the free will issue, and have something to do with belief, and the conditioning that belief imposes on our perceptions. To someone who believes in predestination or even in determinism, their belief may impose upon them a subconscious inability to perceive the world any other way, and thus their actions *are* out of their control, if for no other reason than it never occurs to them to exert control. For someone who believes in free will, *they* may have the ability to act freely in exactly the same situation, because they are not preconditioned to think that they can't. So the same situation can appear to be true from one point of view (conditioned by one belief system) and false from another point of view (unconditioned, or holding a different belief system). The bottom line, however, is that it still strikes me as a classic waste of time to ponder such things overmuch, because *everyone* juggles their notions of true and false every day. We may know intellectually that the balls in the air are really not matter, merely wave particles giving the illusion of matter, but we catch and throw the balls anyway, as if they were matter. Two completely different views of the same reality, both valid, and *neither* true nor false. I am very comfortable with contradictions, and feel for those who are not. By trying to fit everything into little pigeonholes labeled true and false, it seems to me that they're missing at least half of life. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond True and False Barry, some days ago you posted a link to a page that discussed relevant logics (non-classical logics). This post was largely ignored (I think there was one reply). Perhaps because the author tied his discussion to Asian and in particular Buddhist systems of thought, it was ignored. I read the article several times and looked up more information on its author. That page you posted I found really interesting but did not have time to write a response, and still am short of time. I have been in and out of hospitals and emergency rooms several times in the last month for various reasons, though at the moment I am quite well. The web page you posted in question is linked with a shortened URL service below: http://bit.ly/1mUUyg7 I think that page is really worth reading as it proposes an alternative world view to that conventionally espoused. In other fields, non conventional takes on have led to great advances in mathematics and science, and as Bertrand Russell and Alfred North Whitehead showed in the early 20th century, logic and mathematics would seem to be equivalent ways of expressing the same thing. For about 2500 years, Euclid's geometry held sway, but in the 19th century a couple of mathematicians Riemann and Lobachevsky, among others, questioned one of Euclid's basic axioms. They turned some basic assumptions on their head and created alternative geometries that were as self consistent as Euclid's. They pondered what would happen if parallel lines did not stay equidistant but either always met, or asymptotically approached each other but never met, what would happen if the the angles of a triangle did not add up to 180 degrees. These discoveries led to Einstein's general theory of relativity. Einstein also did a similar thing. He pondered what the world would be like if time was not constant, as everyone assumed. So assuming classical logic is the only reality of reasoning, might be a serious mistake. Anyone who has had some sort of spiritual experiences (rather than mystical experiences which tend to reinforce particular beliefs, that is they are more like dreams) probably will come across experiences that do not fit into the conventional classifications of true and false. My experience about free will many years ago was an example of this, an experience that merged two opposing ideas into a single fusion, neither true nor false, or perhaps both true and false at the same time. Further there are paradoxes that Graham Priest mentioned on this web page such as 'This statement is false', which traditional logic does not handle very well. Or Bertrand Russell's
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
I contributed a little money to his 2008 campaign. Nothing for the 2012 because he didn't make it possible for me to spare even that little. But I get spammed all the time by his org trying to pump up his support. You'll love this, a week or so ago it was we'll fly you to San Francisco for free to see the President. What were they planning to do? Have a helicopter land in my street for the 30 mile ride? :-D On 05/14/2014 05:47 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Guilty! I voted for the little bastard. Oh well - still better than Scary Mitch and Paul, but I am so tired of voting for the best of the worst. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Obama fellow is all hat no cattle. His non-delivery of promises is no surprise in esoteric circles though, and his Nobel Peace prize is a joke. Seems like the the head of that committee is getting fired next year. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I will be more than pleased when that little corporate elitist goes tripping off on his endless love me party cycle, once out of office. Can't wait. Because of his misplaced allegiance, to his second term, he blatantly sold out people like me. I now pay $4k annually, for medical insurance, that does not comply with Obamacare. My Obamacare insurance tripled, and I can no longer afford it ($12k per year!). So, while insured, I am still liable for his ever increasing fines, each year. Nice job, dickhead. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bernie in Iowa
Bernie doesn't buy votes. But the powers at be would never let him anywhere near the WH. It would be party over for them if he were President. It's up to the people to end their partying and pillaging. On 05/14/2014 06:18 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, the meditating community would vote for Sanders as a block if he would raid the US treasury and pay people to meditate in a group. Buying votes is common practice in politics these days. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:30 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Is Bernie Sanders a meditator? Would the meditating community as a bloc vote for a socialist? What interest would meditators and other real spiritual people have in Bernie Sanders? -Buck Raunchydog posts: Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s largest fundraiser of the year. This is not an event to be missed! There will be a pre-dinner social hour with Congressman Dave Loebsack and Senator Jack Hatch, followed by dinner and a keynote address by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. If you cannot obtain tickets online, please contact Jean Pardee at 242-8111 or jmpardee@... Bernie Sanders may also be heard on Fairfield Iowa’s community radio station, KRUU-FM KRUU’s Dennis Raimondi is interviewing Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, May 13 . Speaking Freely airs Tuesdays 1pm-2pm CT [rebroadcast Thursday, 8am]. Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County Dems Event | Blog for Iowa http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ image http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County ... http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s larges... View on www.blogforiowa.com http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Car troubles are something serious these days because people can't afford to keep their cars up and they aren't buying a new one every few years to avoid the hassle of breakdowns. And if someone hits your car and totals it, you're unlikely to get enough from the insurance company to replace it with a decent ride. Turq is right, America sucks! On 05/14/2014 07:16 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck
Maybe they should replace the butter sculpting contest with a spam sculpting one. ;-) On 05/14/2014 08:00 AM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Buck can meet me at the Iowa State Fair for a Spam Contest and I'll be looking around to see who’s gonna finish second. SPAM RECIPE: Iowa State Fair Blue Ribbon Contest http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ image http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ SPAM RECIPE: Iowa State Fair Blue Ribbon Contest http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ Hannah Toresdahl shared her award-winning recipe on Today in Iowa Saturday. View on whotv.com http://whotv.com/2012/06/30/spam-recipe-iowa-state-fair-blue-ribbon-contest/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
If Bernie becomes the next Messiah and packs the caucuses with thugs he could win the same folks as Obama...people of color (maybe) and young idealists. But, independents in big primary states?...not so much.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond True and False
Sam Harris insists that free will is just an illusion, so this would be an excellent topic for Rick to ask about when he interviews Harris, no? http://www.samharris.org/free-will http://www.samharris.org/free-will I even suspect that this irrelevance of true/false might be at play when discussing the free will issue, and have something to do with belief, and the conditioning that belief imposes on our perceptions. To someone who believes in predestination or even in determinism, their belief may impose upon them a subconscious inability to perceive the world any other way, and thus their actions *are* out of their control, if for no other reason than it never occurs to them to exert control.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
noozguru, she takes it to a neighborhood place because they pump gas for her. Oy, the guy has had the car since Monday and is now telling her he can't find anything wrong with it! Meanwhile, it broke down last Friday and again last Saturday after he initially told her there was nothing wrong with it! Meanwhile, that's 2 towing charges... On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:12 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Car troubles are something serious these days because people can't afford to keep their cars up and they aren't buying a new one every few years to avoid the hassle of breakdowns. And if someone hits your car and totals it, you're unlikely to get enough from the insurance company to replace it with a decent ride. Turq is right, America sucks! On 05/14/2014 07:16 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It I can't find any other newsource that quotes him saying things quite that extreme about God and Jesus and coimate change. THis feels more like something The Onion might write, but you never know. That was my impression. Let me know if you find out one way or the other. Seems too nutty to be true, but that’s the way the Right Wing rolls these days. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It Written by http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ Alex Kuzio May 12th 2014 WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent Christian and noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday argued that Americans http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html should resist efforts by the federal government to curb carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. Rubio, who is a likely candidate for president in 2016, said that such programs would be “against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God wants the Earth to get warmer.” Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that “it’s getting more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is getting hotter—just look at the new NASA report.” Rubio was referring to two studies http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 released Monday which indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice sheet is unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the sea,” which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the world’s coastal cities underwater. “So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we absolutely cannot say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just part of God’s plan,” Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and it pleases Him to see half of Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out completely, then we cannot stand in His way.” Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as Mormons for a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart that God still destines for us an even better future and the opportunity to continue to serve as an inspiration to the world.” Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the hopes for a better future. “God destines us for a better future, and rising sea levels are a part of that, then it must be for the best,” he said. Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This Week” host George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate change is the result of human activity. “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it… [and] I do not believe that the laws that they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy,” Rubio added. Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I meant was that Jesus Himself is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I can’t tell you exactly why he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is for—trusting that Jesus is warming up the planet so we can all live in water parks or something equally awesome.”
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It
The answer lies on the website, itself: http://www.newslo.com/about-us/ http://www.newslo.com/about-us/ JUST ENOUGH NEWS…Newslo is the first hybrid News/Satire platform on the web. Readers come to us for a unique brand of entertainment and information that is enhanced by features like our fact-button, which allows readers to find what is fact and what is satire. Newslo’s “No Need to Satirize” brings you completely factual stories that are so ridiculous, they don’t need our trademark touch. Whenever you see #NNTS, you’re reading COMPLETELY real news that only seems too absurd to be true. Read the story on the website, and you can see what's factual and what's not: http://www.newslo.com/senator-rubio/ http://www.newslo.com/senator-rubio/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Share, did you not say you were raised Catholic? How could you not understand the issue well enough to understand some people getting fanatical about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Emily, I began leaving the Catholic Church when I was 17 and they said it was no longer a mortal sin to eat meat on Friday. The final straw occurred a year later when I was sitting in my boyfriend's World History class and learned about the Inquisition. This was all in the late 60s and abortion was not yet the inflammatory issue it is now. I understand that people think the foetus is a person and that it's killing a person but I don't agree with this POV. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:20 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, did you not say you were raised Catholic? How could you not understand the issue well enough to understand some people getting fanatical about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
You are just TOO funny! This is excellent!!
On Wed, 5/14/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in
2016?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 1:29 PM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
raunchydog@... wrote :
Buck has had too much to drink at
Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody take his
keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It
I sent this to a conservative friend. He said: If you don’t like carbon dioxide I think you should stop breathing. The climate changes whether you like it or not. We’ve been through many cycles of warming and cooling since the beginning of time. The United States is the cleanest place on earth. Talk to China and India about pollution. Get them to agree to stop polluting and then come back and talk to me about it. I might be waiting a long, long time. The kind of changes you want would absolutely wreck our economy. You worry too much. --- I replied: Climate change will do much more harm to our economy than any efforts we might make to curb it. I just saw a National Geographic article which showed what the world would look like if all the ice melted. That may or may not ever happen, but scientists are now predicting a 14 ft. sea level rise in the next 100 years. Maybe more, the way things are going. What will the inundation of our (and the world’s) coastal cities do to the economy? This can be seen as an economic opportunity. When the Russians put up Sputnik, we rose to the challenge and were on the moon in a little over a decade. That had huge economic benefits in terms of technological innovations. We could do the same with alternative energy technologies, but the fossil fuel industry is doing its best to thwart that, and the Republican party is in bed with them. Meanwhile, other countries are forging ahead with alternative energy technologies, and will reap the economic advantage. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It The answer lies on the website, itself: http://www.newslo.com/about-us/ JUST ENOUGH NEWS…Newslo is the first hybrid News/Satire platform on the web. Readers come to us for a unique brand of entertainment and information that is enhanced by features like our fact-button, which allows readers to find what is fact and what is satire. Newslo’s “No Need to Satirize” brings you completely factual stories that are so ridiculous, they don’t need our trademark touch. Whenever you see #NNTS, you’re reading COMPLETELY real news that only seems too absurd to be true. Read the story on the website, and you can see what's factual and what's not: http://www.newslo.com/senator-rubio/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
It isn't a matter of whether you agree with it (that's a non sequitur, as are eating meat on Fridays and the Inquisition), it's why you wouldn't understand that people who believe abortion involves murdering innocent, helpless human life are so appalled by it and feel it's their duty to help save all those lives, no matter what it takes. I reject their premise, and I'm very firmly pro-choice, but I have no trouble understanding why it upsets them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I began leaving the Catholic Church when I was 17 and they said it was no longer a mortal sin to eat meat on Friday. The final straw occurred a year later when I was sitting in my boyfriend's World History class and learned about the Inquisition. This was all in the late 60s and abortion was not yet the inflammatory issue it is now. I understand that people think the foetus is a person and that it's killing a person but I don't agree with this POV. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:20 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, did you not say you were raised Catholic? How could you not understand the issue well enough to understand some people getting fanatical about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
[FairfieldLife] Meditation, Creativity, Peace
Join NYU Washington, DC for a film screening of Meditation, Creativity, Peace. Meditation, Creativity, Peace http://www.nyu.edu/global/global-academic-centers/washington-dc/nyu-washington--dc-events/meditation--creativity--peace.html http://www.nyu.edu/global/global-academic-centers/washington-dc/nyu-washington--dc-events/meditation--creativity--peace.html Meditation, Creativity, Peace http://www.nyu.edu/global/global-academic-centers/washington-dc/nyu-washington--dc-events/meditation--creativity--peace.html Join NYU Washington, DC for a film screening of Meditation, Creativity, Peace. View on www.nyu.edu http://www.nyu.edu/global/global-academic-centers/washington-dc/nyu-washington--dc-events/meditation--creativity--peace.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
Share, The hippie movement was a cultural transformation for the American people, which included the assimilation of spiritual ideas from other cultures, particularly those from India. It was at this time that MMY and Srila Prabhupada became popular here. But it also included the acceptance of liberal sex attitudes, drugs, psychedelic music, and rebellion against the war in Vietnam. In the US natal chart, the country was running the period of Ketu, which is the significator of spirituality, from 1965 to 1972. In the summer of 1969, which was height of the hippie movement, a friend and I attended rallies at the Golden Gate Park to hear speakers like Timothy Leary, Allen Ginsberg, and others, and listen to free music concerts. In contrast, as I recall, it was the time when the movie, The Graduate, was playing. 'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio...?' This part of the song was actually funny then, since I worked at the parking lot of Joe DiMaggio's Restaurant at the Fisherman's Wharf. He spoke to me, at least once, when I was there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I would posit that the hippie movement was a spiritual one in some ways, which included looking for inspiration but not from traditional religions. On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:49 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie movement was fairly strong. This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people on this earth.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Exactly my point. Share, you said ..and that is what I don't understand.that was what the question to you was about. Your history with the Catholic church, detail-wise, while interesting, is not what I was asking. I thought you were stating that at face value, but you were stating it as a subjective opinion and just worded it oddly. FYI, here is a history of political action related to abortion in the US. A lot was going on in the 60's that preceded Roe vs Wade. U.S. Abortion History - Our Bodies Ourselves http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/u-s-abortion-history/ http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/u-s-abortion-history/ U.S. Abortion History - Our Bodies Ourselves http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/u-s-abortion-history/ Women around the world have used abortion to control their reproduction at every point in history, and in every known society – regardless of its legality, whi... View on www.ourbodiesourselv... http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/u-s-abortion-history/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : It isn't a matter of whether you agree with it (that's a non sequitur, as are eating meat on Fridays and the Inquisition), it's why you wouldn't understand that people who believe abortion involves murdering innocent, helpless human life are so appalled by it and feel it's their duty to help save all those lives, no matter what it takes. I reject their premise, and I'm very firmly pro-choice, but I have no trouble understanding why it upsets them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I began leaving the Catholic Church when I was 17 and they said it was no longer a mortal sin to eat meat on Friday. The final straw occurred a year later when I was sitting in my boyfriend's World History class and learned about the Inquisition. This was all in the late 60s and abortion was not yet the inflammatory issue it is now. I understand that people think the foetus is a person and that it's killing a person but I don't agree with this POV. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:20 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, did you not say you were raised Catholic? How could you not understand the issue well enough to understand some people getting fanatical about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
John, that's very interesting about the Ketu period of the US. BTW, I go into my Rahu a period a week after the US does. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:17 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, The hippie movement was a cultural transformation for the American people, which included the assimilation of spiritual ideas from other cultures, particularly those from India. It was at this time that MMY and Srila Prabhupada became popular here. But it also included the acceptance of liberal sex attitudes, drugs, psychedelic music, and rebellion against the war in Vietnam. In the US natal chart, the country was running the period of Ketu, which is the significator of spirituality, from 1965 to 1972. In the summer of 1969, which was height of the hippie movement, a friend and I attended rallies at the Golden Gate Park to hear speakers like Timothy Leary, Allen Ginsberg, and others, and listen to free music concerts. In contrast, as I recall, it was the time when the movie, The Graduate, was playing. 'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio...?' This part of the song was actually funny then, since I worked at the parking lot of Joe DiMaggio's Restaurant at the Fisherman's Wharf. He spoke to me, at least once, when I was there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I would posit that the hippie movement was a spiritual one in some ways, which included looking for inspiration but not from traditional religions. On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:49 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie movement was fairly strong. This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people on this earth.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/14/2014 9:22 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: RD, I actually think that it's the American anathema towards smart people that will prevent Hillary from ever being elected. Can anyone think of any other accomplishments to list for Hillary Clinton? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:18 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 5/13/2014 8:45 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com mailto:raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: Maybe we can just start listing the Hillary's accomplishments and let that speak for itself. Senator of New York Secretary of State http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/14/2014 9:16 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... Do you have anything to add to Hillary's accomplishments? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
hey, John, have there been any more of them Ketu periods for the US, since then
('65 to '72), or scheduled for the future?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Share,
The hippie movement was a cultural transformation for the American people,
which included the assimilation of spiritual ideas from other cultures,
particularly those from India. It was at this time that MMY and Srila
Prabhupada became popular here.
But it also included the acceptance of liberal sex attitudes, drugs,
psychedelic music, and rebellion against the war in Vietnam.
In the US natal chart, the country was running the period of Ketu, which is
the significator of spirituality, from 1965 to 1972.
In the summer of 1969, which was height of the hippie movement, a friend and I
attended rallies at the Golden Gate Park to hear speakers like Timothy Leary,
Allen Ginsberg, and others, and listen to free music concerts.
In contrast, as I recall, it was the time when the movie, The Graduate, was
playing. 'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio...?' This part of the song was
actually funny then, since I worked at the parking lot of Joe DiMaggio's
Restaurant at the Fisherman's Wharf. He spoke to me, at least once, when I was
there.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, I would posit that the hippie movement was a spiritual one in some ways,
which included looking for inspiration but not from traditional religions.
On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:49 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Share,
I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they
used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie
movement was fairly strong.
This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people
on this earth.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
You just have to be minimally careful these days with cars - oil change every 5K miles will keep the engine running forever, and it is easy to do yourself. Keep enough water in the radiator, proper inflation for the tires, and check for cracked hoses and belts. That's about it, and don't buy certain cars.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Car troubles are something serious these days because people can't afford to keep their cars up and they aren't buying a new one every few years to avoid the hassle of breakdowns. And if someone hits your car and totals it, you're unlikely to get enough from the insurance company to replace it with a decent ride. Turq is right, America sucks! On 05/14/2014 07:16 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Judy and RD, love it! You all are giving me a good chuckle which is greatly appreciated as my Mom is having car trouble and freaking out left and right about it! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non Sequiturs 'R' Us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? RD: Donno. It depends on the non sequitur. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
They consider it MURDER. Not just rhetoric; that is how they really see it, as the murder of a child. That is why they are so upset about it. I do not agree, at all, but I certainly see why they become fanatics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?! On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:06 AM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Saunders isn't a corporatist, and I certainly would vote for him in a national election. But I would never, ever vote for him in a primary. Lesser of two evils issues are all we CAN get in Presidential races and all we will ever get unless we take a page from the political book of the Religious Right, who have been working to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it started by starting from the very bottom and voting in sympathetic dog catchers and school board members who then run for higher political officer after they establish their political credentials. Moderates and liberals simply don't have the multi-generational fanaticism to play that game, counting on people's better nature, instead. The Religious Right knows that there's no such thing [the Bible told them so], so they always assume the worst about everyone and manipulate, er, act accordingly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
On 5/13/2014 9:13 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? Well, I guess it's the levitation part I don't understand. Is that fair game? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bernie in Iowa
On 5/13/2014 8:56 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Hillary Clinton, President Bernie Sanders Vice-President --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I guess it is good for something, then.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That could be true for ordinary people but not for Yogis, They often get cancer when their Work here is over and they are needed elsewhere. Happenned to many, Guru Dev included. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bernie in Iowa
Joe Biden, Vice-President-In-Perpetuity! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/13/2014 8:56 PM, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Hillary Clinton, President Bernie Sanders Vice-President --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
So, this is, 'Charly', and you are Cliff Robertson?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Got it, fleetwood! Your unbounded awareness does not include tap dancing. Better luck next time (-: On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:57 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Exactly. And also why they want abortion to be illegal. Why that should be hard to understand, I can't imagine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : They consider it MURDER. Not just rhetoric; that is how they really see it, as the murder of a child. That is why they are so upset about it. I do not agree, at all, but I certainly see why they become fanatics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Methinks Share forgot to add, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Exactly. And also why they want abortion to be illegal. Why that should be hard to understand, I can't imagine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : They consider it MURDER. Not just rhetoric; that is how they really see it, as the murder of a child. That is why they are so upset about it. I do not agree, at all, but I certainly see why they become fanatics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : This is Spam This is a lot of Spam This is Spamalot!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
Fleetwood,
Yes, the last Ketu period for the US chart was in 1845 to 1852. This was at
the time of the Mexican-American War. Please, see this history timeline:
http://www.animatedatlas.com/timeline.html
http://www.animatedatlas.com/timeline.html
The next Ketu period will start in 2065. This should be an interesting future
of the US to speculate about. I would guess American history would somewhat
repeat itself. Would the US colonize the Moon or Mars? Would the SETI program
receive ET signals from a nearby star system at that time?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
hey, John, have there been any more of them Ketu periods for the US, since
then ('65 to '72), or scheduled for the future?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Share,
The hippie movement was a cultural transformation for the American people,
which included the assimilation of spiritual ideas from other cultures,
particularly those from India. It was at this time that MMY and Srila
Prabhupada became popular here.
But it also included the acceptance of liberal sex attitudes, drugs,
psychedelic music, and rebellion against the war in Vietnam.
In the US natal chart, the country was running the period of Ketu, which is
the significator of spirituality, from 1965 to 1972.
In the summer of 1969, which was height of the hippie movement, a friend and I
attended rallies at the Golden Gate Park to hear speakers like Timothy Leary,
Allen Ginsberg, and others, and listen to free music concerts.
In contrast, as I recall, it was the time when the movie, The Graduate, was
playing. 'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio...?' This part of the song was
actually funny then, since I worked at the parking lot of Joe DiMaggio's
Restaurant at the Fisherman's Wharf. He spoke to me, at least once, when I was
there.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, I would posit that the hippie movement was a spiritual one in some ways,
which included looking for inspiration but not from traditional religions.
On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:49 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Share,
I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they
used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie
movement was fairly strong.
This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people
on this earth.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I like a bold statement like this. I don't know if it is true, but cancer is not anything I worry about, although I don't claim to have unbounded awareness either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
do you mean in general, or...? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Methinks Share forgot to add, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Exactly. And also why they want abortion to be illegal. Why that should be hard to understand, I can't imagine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : They consider it MURDER. Not just rhetoric; that is how they really see it, as the murder of a child. That is why they are so upset about it. I do not agree, at all, but I certainly see why they become fanatics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments against abortion. Yet I still think some people get fanatical about it and that is what I don't understand. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Have you really never read or heard any of the arguments against abortion? That's hard to believe. BTW, abortion is not necessarily always a personal tragedy to those who have one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I admit I'm flummoxed by peoples' fanatical position on Roe vs. Wade. What is that about?! Abortion is a personal tragedy for sure. But why does the religious right try to turn it into a matter of public policy?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I wasn't thinking of reallly old dudes, just your average Biff, Skip, Chet, Betty and Chip. The old dudes invariably die of something called, old age - sadly, it is always fatal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
You *liked* it?? OK, I am learning the whole, I'll discover something interesting from the higher planes of existence, and you will pay me handsomely for it, game. 500 clams, please. Please let me know if that is too much, or not enough, whatever... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I like a bold statement like this. I don't know if it is true, but cancer is not anything I worry about, although I don't claim to have unbounded awareness either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
exactly what I was thinking. that and karma being unfathomable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died of cancer? On 05/14/2014 05:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Of course destroying words is no solution at all. But just think how the word *cancer* can affect people, making their heart race, causing all those fight or flight hormones to be released in the body. What is the solution for that? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:59 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, that was a double plus good quotation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... wrote : Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
I don't know what it is. What was funny to me was that, the co-worker was a little bashful about mentioning the process. As my wife was describing it, I thought, what an odd thing, and then it dawned on me exactly what it was. I am guessing we probably all have little techniques we use to keep ourselves balanced. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#cite_note-Bakker-4 A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_Acupressure_Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Angels Fly
On 5/13/2014 12:14 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: AND THAT QUOTE IS:Angels fly, because they think lightly of themselves-Sir Thomas Aquinas. That's what I'm saying! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
On 5/13/2014 9:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Buy two, one for each foot. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
On 5/13/2014 10:03 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Uh-oh, Barry's having another ego-crisis. 600-plus words' worth. So, I wonder what */caused/* Barry to think of that line a 660-word essay? LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
fleetwood, EFT tapping involves tapping gently on some of the meridian points that are associated with the ancient healing system of acupuncture. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:20 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't know what it is. What was funny to me was that, the co-worker was a little bashful about mentioning the process. As my wife was describing it, I thought, what an odd thing, and then it dawned on me exactly what it was. I am guessing we probably all have little techniques we use to keep ourselves balanced. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co-worker was describing some thing that his brother is trained in which involved tapping. It took me a minute to catch on realize it was the EFT. It just made me smile because she works in a conservative, male dominated institution, and normally these new age technique ideas originate from me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported 'energy' technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and so unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective.[4] A 2009 review found 'methodological flaws' in research studies that had reported 'small successes' for EFT and the related Tapas Acupressure Technique. The review concluded that positive results may be 'attributable to well-known cognitive and behavioral techniques that are included with the energy manipulation. Psychologists and researchers should be wary of using such techniques, and make efforts to inform the public about the ill effects of therapies that advertise miraculous claims.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques#Research_quality ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/14/2014 5:57 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Methinks Share forgot to add, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. :) It also looks like everyone forgot to add any of Hillary's achievements to the list. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Fleetwood, Karl Rove is a shrewd negative spin artist. Now, he's got Bill Clinton to speak up in defense of Hillary's health. By the looks of it, Rove has struck a nerve. IMO, the Republican spin machine will keep hitting this weak point until it hurts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
On 5/14/2014 4:28 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: They consider it MURDER. Not just rhetoric; that is how they really see it, as the murder of a child. That is why they are so upset about it. I do not agree, at all, but I certainly see why they become fanatics. At what point does abortion become murder or feticide? In comparison to other developed countries, the procedure is more available in the United States in terms of how late the abortion can legally be performed. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
