Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?

2013-11-07 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater





On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:57:55 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
It is way better than just
anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time
ago and use it at my free will. Ha!  The sap, he's never figured it
out.  I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my
purposes if he ever figured it out.  However someone here actually equating his
name with me,  I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did
that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's
identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or
lurk on FFL, that really is foul.
-Buck 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:


Re Ann's: What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty 
accurately who I am.:  

And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not 
get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure 
enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in 
more desperate straits. 


If I was in a position to have to care I would not post at all. I 
don't like someone holding me hostage through/by my viewpoints and have a 
really deep seated rebellious streak if I feel I were to be censured for being 
who I am. If someone were to read what I wrote who actually had 
the power to fire or hire me (which seems unlikely) then I would need to be 
conscious of such a possibility and be prepared to live with the 
consequences if it came to that. I acknowledge other people's desire and need 
for anonymity but it just ain't me.


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:


 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:


Re I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my 
opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them 
know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written 
then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity 
other than to keep oneself safe from repercussions that might arise as a 
result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.:

If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments 
and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a 
new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. 
You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things 
it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect 
yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what 
aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real 
name you're giving hostages to fortune. 

All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to 
choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't 
want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty 
accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself 
to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave 
enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever 
engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether 
for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big 
Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help 
us.)


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:


To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject 
others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than 
happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what 
I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need 
for anonymity other than to keep oneself safe from repercussions that might 
arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for 
accountability.


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:


 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:


Can I mention something else that's been bugging me about FFL?


I am Seraphita. That is Seraphita = Seraphita = Seraphita. That's the name I 
selected when registering with FFL. That's the name I always use. Simple OK?

But we know there are a lot of people who have a sign-on name but who are also 
addressed by a familiar name. Correct me if I'm wrong but . . .
authfriend = 
TurquoiseB =
Buck = 


and the Lord knows who wgm4u and awoelflebater are!


For the sake of new arrivals to FFL and the occasional lurker could some kind 
soul list the different aliases of the posters to this site so that everyone 
knows who is saying what to whom. It would make life so much simpler.

Simple: awoelflebater is Ann


Re: [FairfieldLife] All the ice has melted...is your city still there?

2013-11-05 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Are there palm leaves to read in FF? It must be getting warmer there than I 
thought. I wonder how much money one can earn reading palm leaves. Sounds like 
this person would naturally be an expert on the flood plain tendencies of the 
Mississippi if all land ice were to melt. Definitely palm leaf reading and 
flood impact reports go hand in hand. I'll keep a close watch on said palm leaf 
reader, they really seem to have a handle on reality.





On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:39:04 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
The palm leaf reader who comes to FF twice a year has been known to say, What 
good is vastu if you're under water. He predicts that the Mississippi will 
flood all the way to FF. He advises one and all to move to a location 2,000 
above sea level or higher.





On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:14 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
It must be melting faster because our sunny California weather is much colder 
than usual for this time of year.  A friend has a fishing boat and fishes up in 
Alaska and says the ice is really melting away.

On 11/05/2013 12:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

  
Fascinating interactive map from National Geographic. 
Suffice it to say I wouldn't still be in the Netherlands,
and a few others here would be in different places, too.

Fairfield would still be as high, dry, and boring as ever.
  :-)

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/rising-seas/if-ice-melted-map 








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: It's starting already. We gonna line 'em up on the wall!

2013-11-03 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I read alright, I just don't overreact.



On Sunday, November 3, 2013 4:00:18 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
It's actually spelled E.A.R. M.O.N.I.T.O.R.I.N.G.
Don't you read anything about the NSA? 

Oh, I forgot ... you don't read.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:


Can you spell F-E-A-R  M-O-N-G-E-R-I-N-G?


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:


 





---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:


What's the alternative?  Fascism?  We have that now.  You are mistaking 
Obamacare for socialism.  It's fascism.


On 11/03/2013 10:47 AM, emptybill@... wrote:

  
Yes.


It's called Peoples Justice.






---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


Yikes, emptybill, who are we lining up against the wall? The docs? The 
patients? Everybody?




On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:16 AM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote:
 
  
Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid 
Patients
http://masonconservative.typepad.com/the_mason_conservative/2013/11/virginia-democrat-calls-for-forcing-doctors-to-accept-medicare-and-medicaid-patients.html





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

2013-11-01 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
As you may have gathered by now I am not big on theoretical spiritual teachings 
nor am I a leaner towards book learning on things spiritual or the following of 
gurus. I tried it once and although it was interesting it ended rather badly. 
So I can not take sides in this debate about who has practiced tantric yoga 
with the greatest alacrity or whose Buddhist monk friend was/is higher on the 
evolutionary scale. So if you two want to spar over this kind of thing go right 
ahead. I'll be out in the forest somewhere listening to the owls.



On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:54:27 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
We really need to cut emptybill some slack about this, Ann. He said his wife 
passed away - may she rest in peace. 

So, maybe that's a real tragedy, but why is he taking it out on
  me? I'm just trying to share information to make this group more
  interesting to read, unlike some others who seem to just want to
  wreck it. Go figure.

Now he's taking care of his daughter, so I guess we can assume
  that he practiced tantric yoga at least once in his life. 

I've spent forty years investigating the tantric tradition and
  it's relation to TM practice and studied with three tantric
  teachers. It's just a shame that we can't get more substantive
  information about tantra out of him, instead of all the grief he
  has directed at me and Vaj, seeing as how we're all three
  Buddhists. 

But, he doesn't sound much like a Buddhist and his teacher seems
  to have mixed up the dualism of the Sankhya with the non-dualism
  of the Vajrayana, so I can't really figure him or his teacher out.
  Apparently his teacher thinks making puja to Shiva is the
  'original' tantra, but everyone knows that Shiva worship came
  after the historical Buddha and the rise of the devotional sects
  in India, at the beginning of the Gupta period. Go figure. 

Did I tell you I attended the Kalachakra initiation with the
  Tibetan Dalai Lama at Los Angeles in July, 1989?

As in all Vajryana practices, the Kalachakra initiation empowers
  the disciple to practice tantra in the service of attaining
  enlightenment, not for the mere acquisition of material goods or
  fortune from Laksmi, but to attune the mind for the acceptance of
  voidness. So, far from being 'empty, our Bill seems to be pretty
  full of himself,but maybe he's just lashing out from prolonged
  grief - I don't know. 

On 11/1/2013 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:


You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his 
disposition. LoL!


Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's usually good 
for a momentary burst of bliss.


On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to 
a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition 
very much. Go figure.


First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole 
lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the 
double entendre nicely. 


On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  
 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:


What a fucking idiot you are. 


When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage 
advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then 

wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got 

to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down
low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam 

surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.
Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam 
and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. 



He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He 
asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't 
do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya
ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... 

Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be 
very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. 



All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool.

What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. 


ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the 
disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. 
Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:


emptybill:

 I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.


So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same 
time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mean Girls, the study

2013-10-29 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Time is relative, it's only 7:08 here.



On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:04:06 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
This must be some kind of a FFL record to post bat shit to the forum - it's 
only nine o'clock! Go figure.

On 10/29/2013 8:52 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
Here's an interesting article on the difference between lino and tile 
flooring. I wouldn't want Barry to add the only relevant link to FFL this 
morning.


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070902191053AA0dgR8 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:


Here's an interesting article. 

http://www.livescience.com/40717-indirect-aggression-between-females-works.html
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: News You Can Use

2013-10-18 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Yes Richard, we are a bit slow this morning. We'll try and speed it up next 
time. But it would be helpful if you could clarify which tube you want it to go 
down.



On Friday, October 18, 2013 8:24:14 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
It took only about an hour for this thread to go down the tubes. Now that's 
better!

On 10/18/2013 10:10 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:


In order to maintain balance in the Universe, I don't do asanas before not 
going to the dome to meditate. You're welcome. 


Ditto here.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


So evidently it would be very good to at least do asanas more vigorously. 
Regularly.
I do asanas every morning before I go to the Dome to meditate.
Don't you?
-Buck



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Places You Can't Afford to Live

2013-10-16 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater





On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:47:25 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 
  
Consider yourself lucky, Ann. My property taxes are about $9000 per year, for 
an 1800 sq. ft., 65 year old house. 


Whoa! That is an inordinate amount. That is waterfront-type property taxes up 
here. We also have GST tax on all services plus that is added to our 7% 
Provincial tax on virtually all retail goods. So we pay 12% sales tax on most 
items we buy. I can't remember how our income taxes compare but Canada does not 
have any inheritance taxes. My father looked into becoming a Canadian citizen 
before he died just to save the 55% inheritance taxes on his estate. I wish he 
had!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they 
inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in 
property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the 
south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. 
And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure.

Yes, he is subsidizing your children just as I subsidize all those children I 
don't have up here in Canada with my property taxes. So, it appears we both 
live in Socialistic countries after all. Unfortunately, my taxes are over $5000 
per year for a 2900 sq foot house and a horse barn and hay barn.

According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of 
its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are 
the least affordable:

'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore'
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//




Re: [FairfieldLife] College study finds Oreo cookies are as addictive as drugs

2013-10-16 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
That is my experience. Those things are deadly, seriously. It is impossible to 
eat one. Eating six is about the minimum at any one sitting that I can handle. 
I only like the originals though - non of that double stuff for me. The balance 
of outer wafer to inner white filling is perfection just as it is.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:27:53 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/college-study-finds-oreo-cookies-are-as-addictive-as-drugs/


Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] College study finds Oreo cookies are as addictive as drugs

2013-10-16 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Candy corn and candy corn flavoured Oreo cookies are two different things. I 
can't imagine why anyone would want to make Oreo cookies into a candy corn 
flavour when the original is perfection itself.



On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:44:57 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Candy corn! Yuck! Might as well fill up the syringe with high fructose corn 
syrup and inject it right into your bloodstream! Perfect dessert to accompany 
streak o lean IMHO! Make sure your will, etc. is in order first!





On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:51 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 
  
Yes, ready-made Double-stuff is an abomination! Only the painstaking twisting 
off, of two dry wafers, from two intact Oreos, and then the blessed union of 
creme-stuff from each, making a home-grown double-stuff, is acceptable. It 
tastes pretty good, when you work for it, but just adding another blob of creme 
at the factory, no fucking way!!!

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


That is my experience. Those things are deadly, seriously. It is impossible to 
eat one. Eating six is about the minimum at any one sitting that I can handle. 
I only like the originals though - non of that double stuff for me. The balance 
of outer wafer to inner white filling is perfection just as it is.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:27:53 PM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... 
wrote:
 
  
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/college-study-finds-oreo-cookies-are-as-addictive-as-drugs/






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta

2013-10-15 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Well I-Went-to-Empty-the-Trash-and-I-Only-Got-As-Far-As-the-Door, you probably 
didn't realize my tutelage was all at the hands of Inowitall Andudont and 
therefore I could run circles around your supposed knowledge on all of this. 
Currently, my teacher (you may have heard of her, she is the one and only 
Celestial Moody) and she focuses primarily on the Sovlakian Gangnum Style 
Romoulade cooking most favoured by Gypsy fire eaters. I am happy to provide 
some reading material if you care to expand your horizons. You appear to have 
spent an inordinate amount of time perusing the bargain section in your local 
book store and dwelling far to deeply into the make believe world of men - so 
many men. I guarantee that a woman's POV might prove fascinating for you (as I 
know all of my posts to you have left you further enlightened) and Ms Moody is 
jus the woman for the job.



On Monday, October 14, 2013 9:02:55 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Well Tea House ... 


You didn't say exactly when you were
leaving but the link you provided was enough to assay the quality. Perhaps you
didn't realized that I received training in Buddhism by Professor Alfonso
Verdu. Under his tutelage, I received extensive teachings about
Yogachara/Vijñanavada, Madhyamaka and HwaYen/Kegon. 


You also don't appear to realize that
my current teacher is Younge Khachab Rimpoche VII, who is a Tibetan
Khenpo-Geshe Rabjam and focuses particularly upon classical Mahayana, four and
nine level Tantra, the Ganga Mahamudra of Tilopa/Naropa and the Dzogchen 
transmissions
of Vimalamitra and Longchenpa. Khachab has stayed at my house and has been very
generous with his personal teachings to me. I state it this way so you realize
that I have been over this stuff before and don’t intend to waste time
analyzing arguments by the like of Prairie Dog Willy or your blogging-friend
Kevin Whatever.  


So sorry Ol' Tea House ...  but
the site only proffers old academic ideas long refuted and dismissed. Perhaps
it all appeared clever to you but it only wasted my time. Glad though that you
know who is and who is not enlightened. Perhaps you'll 'spanit to
me because I do not find illumination in your undefined idea of 'lighten-mint'
- which really only really means the Germanic Aufklärung. 


And don't gime more of MMY's
7 states. I was trained as a TM teacher and though it took me awhile to realize
that he just made this stuff up, I certainly don’t intend to listen to it 
again. 



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Empty, I'm soon out of town, so no time now to give you a deserving answer. But 
since you like to pontificate with the voice of RAM aka  James Swartz, I owe it 
to my close friend and Tiru resident Kevinanandaji, to expose you to his 
satirizing him. Here, take this, about your new found hero: 
http://chi-ting.blogspot.de/search/label/James%20Swartz%20%28Ram%29 (and don't 
take it too serious!)



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Questioner:   So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to
give some sort of context to his enlightement?
 
Ram:  Yes.  Now that Ramana is getting
fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai
with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life,
with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with
amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana
fantasies.
 
Anyway, Ramana’s
type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a
traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga,
although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did.  His lifestyle too, 
sitting in meditation in a
cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic.  The reason 
yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by 
the language of Yoga
into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi.  So when 
the experience is ‘on’ they are not
looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state
permanent, sahaja.  The joke is
that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent
experience.   Furthermore, they do not
realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an
agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in
it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta

2013-10-15 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
A couple of letters.



On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:54:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and 
it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them?





On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Questioner:   So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to
give some sort of context to his enlightement?
 
Ram:  Yes.  Now that Ramana is getting
fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai
with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life,
with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with
amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana
fantasies.
 
Anyway, Ramana’s
type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a
traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga,
although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did.  His lifestyle too, 
sitting in meditation in a
cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic.  The reason 
yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by 
the language of Yoga
into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi.  So when 
the experience is ‘on’ they are not
looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state
permanent, sahaja.  The joke is
that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent
experience.   Furthermore, they do not
realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an
agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in
it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-15 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
This has to be a first. I don't think I could imagine anyone else on the planet 
saying this. 



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:20:32 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Richard, all this is just making me so happy that I'm 65 and on Medicare!





On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
So, the Obamacare PPACA looks like it may make you fill out all the personal 
information BEFORE you can see the insurance rates. That tells me they don't 
want you to see the rates because they are so high. If 50 million people are 
uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to 
make coverage even costlier?

And, you can't buy out of state insurance across state lines; and military 
dependents aren't covered by Tricare to age 26. And, the system just gets 
slower and slower every day. Go figure.

People should be fired - throw the bums out! ObamaCare is one of the best 
reasons to  vote Libertarianism in the next election.

'Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly 
Its Plans Are'
Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/

' Obamacare Regs 30X Longer Than Law'
http://www.cnsnews.com/



On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Ann Woelfle Bater awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 
  
Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up 
and get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the 
fear mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it Obamacare you 
will start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who 
are against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan Obama 
such and such. Next it'll be Obamawar, Obamacrime, Obamapollution ...



On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of 
time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a 
business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the 
night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for 
Obamacare. What's up with that?




On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest 
that for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is 
shorter and they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to 
bring the economy more into balance?







On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but  it wasn't free but I didn't pay what 
the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone.  I bought 
it direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS 
comes out (eat your heart out Alex).

But I don't chatter much on phones.  I mainly communicate via
  email.  BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. 
  I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk.  Today I pay $30 a
  month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely
  do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a
  month.  Go figure.  The plan is a prepay too (no contract).  

The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I
  just get their SIM card and install it.  And the phone acts as a
  remote for the Chromecast.

I have Medicare Part A only.  I won't pay for the B part nor for
  supplemental.  If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll
  negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW).  

Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW.  His salary
  is too damn high!  We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum
  wage too.

On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

  
There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 
'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and 
it was free. Now that's better!

When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store
  - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only
  spending a few dollars every three months on his phone!
  Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to
  talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes.
  LoL!

The big problem is that the rent's too damn high!

The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's
  got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 

'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare'
News8:
http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare

On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is 
up; the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty 
bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's

Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis

2013-10-15 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Now I am curious about this. A high rent district is unsustainable because it 
takes more energy to continue than it generates? I would have thought you 
might have meant the high cost of living in these expensive neighborhoods that 
seem to be, according to you, on the East and West Coasts of the USA were 
unsustainable because people were not going to be able to afford them soon. If 
that had been what you meant (and apparently it was not based on your post 
above) then I only would like to add that there will always be those who can 
afford expensive things. There will always be rich people who can maintain a 
lifestyle that includes multiple houses, expensive cars, expensive horses and 
lavish holidays. I really don't see the final days of expensive real estate or 
those who can afford to live there.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:33:30 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to 
continue than it generates.





On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you 
were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term.

And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously 
the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the 
article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years 
ago).

So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in 
specific terms. What do you expect to happen? 

Share wrote:


 Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken 
 literally.


I wrote:

  OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's 
  high housing costs in general.
  Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean 
  byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? 


Share wrote:
 I'll do better than
that, Judy. Here's a very cool website
that compares places cost wise.
Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is
255% more expensive there. 
http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5


On Monday, October
14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@...
authfriend@... wrote:


 









Share
wrote:  
 
 John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly
inexpensive place like   FF. I think of
those high rent
districts on the east and west coasts
as   being
unsustainable, especially for an aging
population. What, pray
tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give
us an East Coast  example,
please. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-14 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up and 
get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the fear 
mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it Obamacare you will 
start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who are 
against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan Obama such and 
such. Next it'll be Obamawar, Obamacrime, Obamapollution ...



On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of 
time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a 
business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the 
night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for Obamacare. 
What's up with that?




On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest that 
for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is shorter and 
they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to bring the 
economy more into balance?







On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but  it wasn't free but I didn't pay what 
the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone.  I bought it 
direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS comes 
out (eat your heart out Alex).

But I don't chatter much on phones.  I mainly communicate via
  email.  BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. 
  I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk.  Today I pay $30 a
  month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely
  do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a
  month.  Go figure.  The plan is a prepay too (no contract).  

The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I
  just get their SIM card and install it.  And the phone acts as a
  remote for the Chromecast.

I have Medicare Part A only.  I won't pay for the B part nor for
  supplemental.  If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll
  negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW).  

Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW.  His salary
  is too damn high!  We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum
  wage too.

On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

  
There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 
'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and 
it was free. Now that's better!

When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store
  - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only
  spending a few dollars every three months on his phone!
  Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to
  talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes.
  LoL!

The big problem is that the rent's too damn high!

The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's
  got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 

'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare'
News8:
http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare

On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; 
the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty 
bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's Burger Joint! 
Go figure.

Now, the medical insurance bill is going up?

Not to mention fixing the price - so that younger people
pay more to keep the premiums down for the older folks. 

If we had a single payer system for medical care, the
federal government would pay all medical expenses for
everyone. So, how much would the rent go up with a
government paid health care system?  

Go figure.

If I am elected, I promise a job for everyone so they
can make a decent living wage and pay their own medical
insurance bills. That's my ticket - to create jobs to
make money and lower medical care expenses.

The trouble is that loss aversion also militates
against buying insurance. Especially if you don't make a
lot of money--and many young people don't--writing that
premium check is painful if not prohibitive.

'The Young and the Clueless'
Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article

On 10/10/2013 7:41 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

It looks like New York and New Jersey have some of the highest taxes in the 
U.S. 

And, the rent is too damn high!

...six of the top 10 states with the best business
  climate are 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Another Of My Usual

2013-10-12 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater





On Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:08:38 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  
Hi Ann. Thanks for all the three videos. I saw them all. Of course I know the 
joy of movement! What did you think? Come on, I have been walking on my hands 
half of my life, as a kid and also as an adult, I still do it! But IMHO these 
are two topics, getting vairagya through meditation, loving the bliss of 
meditation, and enjoying movement, like dancing for example, or any type of 
creative expression btw.. 

That first video I posted was a mistake but glad you liked them. And of course 
I never implied you didn't like to move but I had no idea you liked to walk on 
your hands - maybe that's what happens when you meditate too long - you can't 
tell your head from your tail!

I really like elephants, I was riding on one when I was in a wild life park in 
India, seeing tigers in the free wild life. I was lucky, we saw 11 tigers on 
one day, four of them from the elephant. One time I was walking in a procession 
at the Kumbha Mela, and suddenly had the feeling of a presence walking next to 
me. I looked and it was an elephant. He walked alone, and so conscious in the 
whole crowd, that you would never have the fear he would run you over. They are 
so controlled and gently!
Elephants are beyond amazing. So smart, so herd oriented, so social and 
incredibly powerful in their presence. A real example of the sacredness 
possible in a being. You are very lucky to have been around them - touched them.

It's not an either or. Great saints /meditators like Ramana Maharshi loved 
animals and had them all around them. Go to the Ramana Ashram in 
Tiruvanamallai, and you will see Samadhi shrines of his pet animals, a cow, a 
dog, a peacock. Anyway, the place is full of peacocks.
Of course those who spend their lives meditating are not precluded from loving 
and enjoying anything on this planet including animals. I would think they 
might be more inclined to appreciate them if they are, in fact, touching on the 
deeper aspects of creation and themselves during all this meditating. If you 
couldn't come to adore and recognize the rest of the living, breathing world as 
precious and astounding as one's own existence then meditation is worthless.
 But thanks for sharing, Ann. I never get any feeling of ill will or 
aggressiveness from you, besides the fact, that we have different orientations 
and opinions, and I appreciate that. I'm sure, if we met outside of FFL, we 
just could be friends.
I am glad to hear you say this. It is rarely my intention to appear aggressive 
or mean. I'll give a poke where a poke is due and I have never tolerated any 
unwarranted abuse against myself or others so other than that I'm a fairly 
nice person! Of course Barry claims I'm a Mean Girl which I take as a personal 
badge of honour coming from him.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


For I ran a tea house:
Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is 
CRAZY!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535amp;set=vb.1042328132amp;type=2amp;theater


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?

2013-10-11 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
This is totally the wrong video. That one sucks. This is the one I wanted to 
link to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVI4fyXo9cYamp;list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM




On Friday, October 11, 2013 7:12:41 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  


I ran a tea house wrote:

Thanks Ann for your answer. My fist thought was, that I was a bit too snarky, 
sarcastic, so whatever I wrote - don't take it personal - but I think you 
already got that. Of course I have nothing against horses, they are beautiful 
animals, and even though I don't really ride horses, I still meet them when I 
run out, as they are here in the fields, and many people in the area where I 
live ride horses, there are horse races in the next village, where people come 
from the whole county. So, again sorry for the sometimes overly snarky tone. 

No problem, I like dialoguing here on this forum. What we have been talking 
about interests me. 

Regarding you, I take it that meditation is not really for you, I don't want 
you to be anybody else than you are. I don't want to persuade you to either do 
2 x 20, or take up the dome program, or anything else.

You are correct, up to this point in my life I simply find activity far more 
desirable in my life then sitting with eyes closed. I began meditating at the 
age of 14 and did so without fail until I was 30 or so. I rounded, I did the 
siddhis. The best meditations I ever had were when I was being checked. The 
combination of the teacher being present with quiet instructions to open and 
close the eyes was very soothing and the resulting meditations deep and 
nurturing. However, virtually every meditation in the afternoons resulted in 
sleep.

But there are people who are inclined to having long meditations, who are 
lovers of meditation, you may find them on Purusha, or also in many other 
spiritual groups, or they are simply on their own. To think that they do this, 
because they have nothing else to do is rubbish. To think that they just sit 
around and let time pass is equally rubbish. 

I actually never really meant that completely seriously. But how this 
conversation started was when Share claimed those who meditated for 7.5 hours 
per day were spiritual warriors. She never replied concerning why she feels 
this but I certainly don't agree. People meditate for themselves, for their own 
ends (no problem) and one is hardly a warrior doing that nor is it 
particularly gruelling in any way to sit on your ass for hours on end unless 
you are me who would find it tortuous.

It makes me feel you don't know meditation very well, it's okay you have an 
active life and enjoy it.

Meditation is something I did for 16 years every day, twice a day. I know it 
well enough. I still occasionally practice TM.

I also think that those who pursue a Purusha type lifestyle should do so, 
because it is an urge from within, because there is a real calling, not because 
they want to 'achieve' something, or they have to force themselves.

No argument here. But my point was that these people have nothing else pressing 
in their lives so they can have that 'luxury' of basically living their lives 
with eyes closed repeating some mantra (or not). Going on purusha, spending all 
that time would not be possible if they were Olympic hopefuls, great scientists 
or had three children to feed. 

Also, I am very active myself, I have to do many things, so I cannot afford to 
meditate 7 1/2 hours,

Exactly part of my point.

 and since much of the effect of meditation has spread into activity, I also 
don't need so much meditation anymore. But I still like it, and meditate every 
day - and I never regret doing a single meditation. Meditation has always been 
my best friend. (and that's not because I have no other friends ;-))

Good one.

One thing more I like to mention: With meditation there comes a deep sense of 
detachment. That's obviously diametrically opposed to the sense of passion and 
interest, you may get with other things. That means you can't love the world 
anymore, but your love and sense of passion will be different.

And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just 
tries to take an easy shot at me.


I don't think Judy takes easy shots. She considers carefully. She is not a 
careless person. Whether she is correct in her assessment about you or not only 
you can really know, if you are open enough to really evaluate what she has to 
say about you. If she is wrong she is wrong but I don't think she says what she 
says here without good reason - from her perspective.

I have included a link that is hopefully clickable (based on your instructions 
the other day). It is kind of a cool video about equestrians. It doesn't say 
it all nor does it say it perfectly but it does touch on a bit of what I was 
talking about in my other post to you. It is only a couple of minutes long.Take 
a look:
 



[FairfieldLife] Another Of My Usual

2013-10-11 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
For I ran a tea house:
Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is 
CRAZY!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535amp;set=vb.1042328132amp;type=2amp;theater


Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion for dogs

2013-10-10 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
This article is not news nor is it groundbreaking. As the first commenter on 
the article says, every dog owner already knows this. But the most interesting 
part of this small snippet are the comments that follow. They clearly show how 
fucked up people are. Just read the first ten or so respondents beginning with 
the first coherent post and watch the subsequent posters proceed down, what 
Richard states, the proverbial rabbit hole. Humanity = insanity. Dogs = 
unconditional desire to adore.



On Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:02:33 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
iranitea, here's an article from Kurzweil all about how dogs and human are 
similar in their devotion.

http://www.kurzweilai.net/dogs-are-people-too?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletterutm_campaign=1d5b260b01-UA-946742-1utm_medium=emailutm_term=0_6de721fb33-1d5b260b01-282061598



On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 9:14 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?

2013-10-10 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater





On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:17:23 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Ann, I don't remember when I first heard the word dharma, but safe to say over 
35 years ago. I would say that a person in their dharma has an ease and flow 
about them, active without being frantic, calm without being dull. I'd say 
further that the ultimate dharma is to realize and live, on the physical, 
mental and emotional levels that one is in harmony with everyone and everything 
else.




On Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:08 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


Doc, I said something about win win! Anyway, I think people do best for the 
world when they're doing their dharma whatever that might be (-: 

Is this actually saying anything? What is your dharma? How can we tell what our 
dharma is or that dharma actually exists? Do you always speak in such 
generalities? Is this your dharma? Can you tell when someone is living their 
dharma? Is there a chance there is no such thing as dharma and would your life 
be less rich if this was some made up idea? What percentage of the things you 
say have you actually analyzed and thought deeply about? 



On Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:21 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... 
wrote:
 
  
Hi Share - who said anything about a win-win? I was making the point that one 
can be doing far more [for the world] than someone engaged in the TMSP for 7 
and 1/2 hrs. per day, although no explicit signs are there. That is all. If 
people want to sit around in the dome, that is fine. Recognize though, that it 
is not the ne plus ultra it is made out to be. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Doc, I think it's a win win. Either the person is calm and radiates that; or 
they're releasing stress and thus becoming more calm. BTW, I had to reply from 
Basic because the list in Full Featured did not have your post!

Isn't life simple? Just meditate and no matter what happens or how someone is 
acting they are evolving to a better, calmer place. 


On Wed, 10/9/13, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote:

Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an 
alternative to TM?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 12:08 PM
















 









Hey Share,
if a person is established in silence all the time, they no
longer need to round seven and a half hours a day. It
continues 24/7. So, there is not really a correlation
between time explicitly spent meditating, and a person's
ability to be a source of calm, vs a generator of
noise. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Ann, there were 2
posts and in one you focused on rounding spouses. As a
response to the other, I refer you to this comment from
Seraphita: We
understand what you're saying but it is a common belief
in all 
contemplative traditions that communities joined together
practising 
silent prayer (eg, monks and nuns) have a beneficial effect
on the world
even though to practical, common-sense types they seem to
be a waste of
space. Indeed, even the very recollection that there are
men and women 
who forsake the feverish ambitions of the mass of people
induces a 
feeling of calm!



On Wednesday,
October 9, 2013 10:28 AM, awoelflebater@...
awoelflebater@... wrote:

 









  

---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Now
this comment from Judy is a perfect example of snarky IMO.
Ann had criticized that people rounding for 7 1/2 hours were
thus separated from their spouses. I responded reasonably
noting that spouses who work away from home are also
separated for 7 1/2 hours or so.
My point, though, was not so much about spouses but
more about the fact that people who meditate for 7.5 hours a
day are not, in my opinion, spiritual warriors
and that they obviously have absolutely nothing more
desirable or pressing in their lives to
apply themselves to. I would have to question their
interestingness as human beings let alone their
productiveness and ability to take advantage of all of the
richness this waking life has to offer.




On Wed, 10/9/13, judy stein authfriend@...
wrote:



Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an
alternative to TM?

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 8:37 AM

































 



















Share wrote:







 Ann, I think many spouses who work



 outside the home are separated from each other from

most of



 the day.







When you find out for sure, let us know, OK? This is an



important insight. 






Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: So You Can All Relax Now

2013-10-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Dear I-ran-a-tea-house-but-don't-anymore I think Judy was picking up on your 
snarkiness and was mostly addressing that. It wasn't about the nitpicking 
details. 



On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:48:16 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  
Judy, this is a perfect example, of how going into nitpicking details, does 
nothing to make things more clear, but rather helps to lose sight of the whole. 
Why? Because everybody can see that the http:// is already inserted in the link 
window that opens. But it is also selected, so that when you paste a new URL 
into it, it will be overwritten. (You'd have to click somewhere in the window 
to de-select it, and then paste, and you get the double http). What I had said, 
is just a short way of saying, well you had the double http:// in your link. So 
I wonder why you write stuff like this? Did you miss, that this is there in the 
subtext of my statement already? Is it that you just want to be right?


This may be a trivial issue, but this is how your arguments go 90% of the time. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Iranitea wrote:


 It's because you inserted the http://http:// two times.
 It's your mistake actually.

Ann didn't insert http:// twice, actually. The Rich Text editor's
clickable-link feature already has http:// in the window where you
paste the URL. If the URL you want to insert already has http://,
as is usually the case, you have to delete it (or delete the
one in the window), or you'll end up with two in the URL when it
appears in the message.


 You can also just select a
 url, and right click, 'open link in new tap'

Tab, not tap.
(snip)

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
awoelflebater@... wrote:


  Typical, I add
  a link and it clicks but takes you nowhere. You'll have
  to just do it the hard way:
  http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/9011120/story.html
   


Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: So You Can All Relax Now

2013-10-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
And I thank you for that as it did help. I will make sure there are no 
duplicate http's in the link box.



On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 7:09:58 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  
Oh is that so..? But I didn't mean to be snarky really - I just wanted to give 
you some technical information, If you already knew that - sorry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVVxXdOKrgo



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Dear I-ran-a-tea-house-but-don't-anymore I think Judy was picking up on your 
snarkiness and was mostly addressing that. It wasn't about the nitpicking 
details. 



On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:48:16 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  
Judy, this is a perfect example, of how going into nitpicking details, does 
nothing to make things more clear, but rather helps to lose sight of the whole. 
Why? Because everybody can see that the http:// is already inserted in the link 
window that opens. But it is also selected, so that when you paste a new URL 
into it, it will be overwritten. (You'd have to click somewhere in the window 
to de-select it, and then paste, and you get the double http). What I had said, 
is just a short way of saying, well you had the double http:// in your link. So 
I wonder why you write stuff like this? Did you miss, that this is there in the 
subtext of my statement already? Is it that you just want to be right?


This may be a trivial issue, but this is how your arguments go 90% of the time. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Iranitea wrote:


 It's because you inserted the http://http:// two times.
 It's your mistake actually.

Ann didn't insert http:// twice, actually. The Rich Text editor's
clickable-link feature already has http:// in the window where you
paste the URL. If the URL you want to insert already has http://,
as is usually the case, you have to delete it (or delete the
one in the window), or you'll end up with two in the URL when it
appears in the message.


 You can also just select a
 url, and right click, 'open link in new tap'

Tab, not tap.
(snip)

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
awoelflebater@... wrote:


  Typical, I add
  a link and it clicks but takes you nowhere. You'll have
  to just do it the hard way:
  http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/9011120/story.html
   




Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Petition to Yahoo to bag Neo and bring back Classic

2013-10-01 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Yes, it is easy and I just did it.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 12:02:16 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Petition to Yahoo to bag Neo and bring back 
Classic
 


  
Michael wrote: 

Yahoo, like all guv'ments and the TM Movement don't give a damn what people 
want, need or think, as long as said organizations get paid.



Duh. The point of the petition is to have something to show Yahoo's 
advertisers, since increasing ad revenue is what was behind the Neo disaster. 
As I said, it can't hurt, and it's easy enough to sign a petition.



 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Petition to Yahoo to bag Neo and bring back Classic
 


  
At change.org:
http://www.change.org/petitions/yahoo-groups-i-want-the-old-yahoo-groups-back?share_id=dvEgMDtbIeamp;utm_campaign=signature_receiptamp;utm_medium=emailamp;utm_source=share_petition

Can't hurt.



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Share, I think you should eschew the senior variety (sounds like dog food) 
and stick with the regular version. For one, thinking of yourself as senior 
is not the way to go. And secondly, guts are guts and they all require 
probiotics. I seriously doubt the senior version is much different, when it 
comes to hundreds of millions of good bacteria available in one capsule, and 
you are just buying into America's penchant for obsessing on the aging 
population. Viva la revolution!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Come Back Raja Luis!

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Well, maybe people have to actually be flying and yogic before there is any 
effect. We have all yet to see this.

[FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
YES! I wrote about this yesterday. This lag time issue really takes the punch 
out of conversing here. It is like shouting into the mountains and waiting a 
long time to get an echo. It takes the immediacy and the effectiveness of 
dialogue away. FFL functioning like this is not nearly as dynamic. I hope it 
sorts itself out in the next little while because this scrambled, badly-timed, 
messages-gone-missing business is absurd.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
My advice Share: you don't need someone in a book to tell you when to drink a 
glass of water. Or to tell you when to pee, do you?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count burpola

2013-09-13 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Oh Geez Share, I thought you had already been neo'd. Now we get to look forward 
to your growing pains. Test.

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Who told you how to respond? I merely indicated that I found it fascinating 
that you can't, apparently, figure out when to drink a glass of water without 
reading a book.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count burpola

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
It doesn't look like the pulse of FFL is beating very strongly. Amazing how a 
little change of format has ripped the heart right out of this thing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
That formula for water is way too extravagant. I basically don't drink water at 
all. If I were to follow your 'rule' I would be imbibing 70 oz of water per 
day. I could swim in that amount. These people who walk around with water 
bottles and who can't seem to make it to the end of their driveways without a 
canteen astound me. This is a fairly recent phenomenon, all this water 
drinking. If you aren't thirsty why drink? Surely the body can tell us if it 
needs moisture. My stomach sure as hell lets me know when it is empty or my 
bladder when it is full or my skin if there is something pricking it. Drinking 
so much water has to raise hell with the kidneys.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Communism anyone?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Hang in there Obba. It will get better. We will, like lab rats, eventually 
adapt to all this newness and once again FFL will be the vibrant and brilliant 
community it once was before NEO. But for the time being, as we all attempt to 
figure out how to post with colour, include images, have our posts actually 
show up or at least appear within 24 hours, we must just live with the faith 
that it is all for our spiritual growth and evolution. It is comical actually, 
because it is like being in some demented time warp never being sure that an 
response will show up after an initial post is made or if it will appear in 
triplicate. Trying to keep choronlogy straight is also a mind bender but for 
God's sake woman, don't abandon ship!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Hang in there testing, it must be a test. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did the prairie chicken cross the road?

2013-09-08 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I really like the foot movement of the males during their courtship. They've 
made me swoon and conquered my affections.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Survival

2013-09-08 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
There will be no surviving a global disaster. All of the 'nice' people will be 
slaughtered or deprived of the living essentials and all of the 'survival' 
types will be instrumental in ensuring they remain alive as long as possible 
(along with their families). The worst characteristics of the human being will 
predominate and no one will be safe from plundering or maiming or death. Those 
who might come through all of that will be either the really ruthless ones or 
those who just had a whole lot of dumb luck or fell down a well-stocked hole at 
some point.

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-08 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I fail to see how keeping a passport of MMY's or his sandals is any weirder 
than someone keeping the same items belonging to any other celebrity, famous 
writer, musician, politician etc, etc, etc that someone had the good fortune to 
have in their possession. One person's treasure is another person's trash, as 
they say (or something like that.)

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: A dance scene that always transports me to paradise

2013-09-07 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I am not so sure the Brits are that Puritanical actually. The Victorian era 
Brits of a certain class might have pretended they were. I think the British 
are some of the most charmingly twisted people around - sexually and otherwise.

[FairfieldLife] Re: last night I dreamt of judy stein . . .

2013-09-07 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater



[FairfieldLife] Re: I blame the haystacks (was Sacre Bleu)

2013-09-04 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Dear Bob, you have written a cracker of a first post as a new member of the 
MGC. My congratulations on your ingenuity and creativity. For this you are 
awarded the coveted and hallowed Haystack Award. Keep up the good work. 
(How's that clubroom coming?)

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Question for Rick

2013-09-04 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
GOT IT, AND THANK YOU!!

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.

2013-09-04 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Phew, that blows my mind. The very idea. If I had only known with such 
certainty the influences on my every move, let alone such a big move as getting 
initiated, I would have been a lot more careful. As it is, I have no idea what 
is happening in the solar system or, indeed, the entire Universe so I guess I'm 
toast.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Question for Rick

2013-09-04 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Aw, don't be sore. I just wish I had more gossip for you. But seeing as I 
haven't followed what the Movement is doing since 1987 I'm a lousy source.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Reasons why Neo might be timely

2013-09-03 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Judy, this response held everything and more of what Barry was asking and was 
not asking in his post this morning. I especially appreciated your explanation 
and description of why and how viewpoints can be spiritual here although they 
may not be talking about anything other than war or movies or commenting on the 
post of another. There is no limit to how intelligence can be expressed and we 
have a wonderful collage of personalities who are able to see and, in turn, 
portray the individuality and depth of their experience of the world to the 
rest of us.

It is, of course, predictable that Barry cites the posters who mostly agree 
with him as those he finds worthy to read. This is an old story and more a sign 
of him as a person than a valid certification of the worthwhileness of these 
peoples' posts (not to say that the worthwhile posts by those he deems 
readable aren't, indeed readable).

And we have all lamented the fact that Salyavin has left for the moment, no one 
here has blasted him for it. I certainly appealed for him to come back. So, as 
usual, Barry is making this up to create more dissension and ill will. Why 
would he do that? (Rhetorical question.) 

This week in particular has been a great example of people actually 
spontaneously interacting more like they might do in real life in a room where 
conversation follows a flow with one viewpoint or interjection after another. 
It has a more natural and friendly flow to it than when there were posting 
limits. I think Barry wants to pontificate and he likes this sort of gag order 
emerging once certain people hit a particular post count. He waits and plans 
for this. He loves the soapbox and would prefer it if no one else could speak 
unless it was to support and stroke him. Otherwise, the rest of us should shut 
up because he has far more important things to say and we better listen while 
he misleads and abuses and makes it very, very clear (in his mind) why we are 
all lacking in one way or another as humans and as creative people.

Barry might take small breaks but he'll never leave, not for the immediate 
future. For as much as he dislikes most of the people here and claims 
superficiality on our parts he needs a dogs body to kick and yank around. He 
also needs to leap onto his battered old soapbox often enough to make himself 
feel important.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely

2013-09-03 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater



RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama will bomb if Congress gives approval

2013-09-02 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater







Doc, you are hilarious. I rather enjoy this image of Mothra enveloping 
Washington in its gauze. Maybe that will keep the government from making any 
stupid, warlike moves in the next little while. 













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[FairfieldLife] colors or colours depending upon the country you live in

2013-09-02 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
To Judy: I'll show you and that Bob Price guy. I can type in colour/color. Now 
I'm going to do something astounding! Watch this...

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: colors or colours depending upon the country you live in

2013-09-02 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I did it via the reply to group with email. But I'm still swimming around in 
the comparative dark. I'm never quite sure where I'm going or what is going to 
be the end result once I hit various keys. FFL really is becoming the perfect 
metaphor for life.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.

2013-09-02 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Raja Luis Success

2013-09-02 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
The first thing I would do is remove the crown. Then I might start laughing and 
watch to see if they might find this remotely humorous. If so, I would return 
the said crown but only on condition that they incorporate it into their next 
Halloween costume and not, for one moment, think they actually deserve to wear 
it for any other reason.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Raja Luis Success

2013-09-02 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I have no problem with lots of money or those who possess it. I do, however, 
have a small problem with the wardrobe.

[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

2013-08-29 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
I'm flummoxed, confounded and this message may not get where I want it to go. 
I'll press send and see what happens. Raunchy, you are officially my guinea 
pig. The only way I seem to be able to read posts anymore is to read my mail 
instead. Before that I always used the website to read and type. This new 
format might just be the answer to posting limits 'cause I'm not sure I can 
figure this all out.

[FairfieldLife] (unknown)

2013-02-12 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
http://www.kosmetik-schoenheitsfleck.de/uduoesmo/6otpcbsr02ou55lxcqh774rqyx.t7e0lwc?f5