Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Judy Quit FFL
I don't even CARE. :-) :-) :-) The thing is, this flurry of insane gotta-protect-my-carefully-manufactured-image-of-myself posts has proven without a shadow of a doubt that she never DID quit FFL. She's clearly been reading every post here the whole time she's supposedly been gone. How pathetic. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why Judy Quit FFL I don't know.
[FairfieldLife] Why Judy Quit FFL
I don't know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. Yep, it's a drama queen convention alright... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
It's all grist for the mill... On Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:36 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. Yep, it's a drama queen convention alright... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? And why would you post about this, why take the time, the bother? You know damn well there isn't a soul on this forum who isn't abundantly aware that Judy is no longer posting. I find it human and natural for people to wonder where she is and how she is. Only someone like yourself who feels the universe revolves around himself would resent the fact that others care about your nemesis, would be concerned that perhaps she is ill or injured or in some way unfortunately indisposed. The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. Try it sometime, you might find your world expanding, your viewpoints becoming more rounded and intelligent. This place is such a known to you, you who have all the answers for yourself and everyone else on the planet. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. Yep, it's a drama queen convention alright... Yes, bickering about astrology ad infinitum is rather tiresome, boys... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
On 8/7/2014 1:33 AM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. For the record, the TB has been posting to social media every day since 1995 without a single break and it's the same message day after day, year after year: Get Judy. 2014 - 1995 = 19 years, that's nearly half of his adult life. The other half was spent supporting the Rama cult and trying to get people to believe that Rama could levitate. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Well wait, Bhairitu said that she had previously mentioned that when she visits her sister, she is without internet. That may be what is going on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Ann and everyone: I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
On 8/6/2014 9:33 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well wait, Bhairitu said that she had previously mentioned that when she visits her sister, she is without internet. That may be what is going on. A professional editor in New York for thirty years doesn't just up and take a months-long vacation and not respond to a single email. She is gone for whatever reason - get over it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
On 8/6/2014 9:51 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ann and everyone: I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Maybe, but Judy claimed not to own a car and I seriously think she may not have had a NY drivers license either. If Judy is dead, her sister would probably have posted something to the group, but maybe not. Go figure. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : She always mentioned that when visiting her sister there is no Internet. So she may be spending the summer there. Yeah, she'll be back. Probably sharpening her green pen in anticipation of coping with the backlog... Because we all know how important comments and corrections on the Internet are... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Or possibly: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : She always mentioned that when visiting her sister there is no Internet. So she may be spending the summer there. Yeah, she'll be back. Probably sharpening her green pen in anticipation of coping with the backlog... Because we all know how important comments and corrections on the Internet are... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment. I also emailed her but no response. I am actually worried about her. Since I don't frequent any other forums presumably someone here would have noticed if she was posting elsewhere.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Ann, just do a google search on her name and New Jersey. We know her approx age and that she has a sister. From these items you might be able to narrow down the field and find her phone number. On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:03 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment. I also emailed her but no response. I am actually worried about her. Since I don't frequent any other forums presumably someone here would have noticed if she was posting elsewhere.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
She always mentioned that when visiting her sister there is no Internet. So she may be spending the summer there. On 08/03/2014 11:43 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : She always mentioned that when visiting her sister there is no Internet. So she may be spending the summer there. Yeah, she'll be back. Probably sharpening her green pen in anticipation of coping with the backlog... On 08/03/2014 11:43 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] to Judy again
Judy, you got this wrong. Empty's sentence has a body, the main part. And another part is the prepositional phrase. So it has 2 parts. Judy wrote:And while a sentence can certainly have two parts, the sentence in question didn't: Empty wrote: Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava.
[FairfieldLife] to Judy
Judy, for someone who avoids writing emotionally , you sure are advocating it a lot for me! Where is the emotion in your posts?! You seem to think that one has to dump a boatload of negative thoughts on someone in order to be authentic. I disagree with you about that. I think it's enough to say what I don't like and or what I disagree with. And I attempt to say it as positively as I can. That's a skill I'm still practicing. And I don't always succeed because there is a history with you, Emily, Fleetwood and Ann. My feelings towards you all are not 100% positive. So what? That is for me to deal with privately. I don't think it's appropriate to focus on it in the group. Plus I don't trust any of you four enough to share either my feelings or info about me. Recent interactions have validated these conclusions. If you notice that negative feelings leak out, then again, I suggest you avoid interacting with me. But I don't think you want to stop interacting with the people you disapprove of. I think you enjoy expressing your disapproval and doing so in a harsh way. You say you are only refuting lies in your posts. But I think you do way more than that. You browbeat people. And with turq you've been doing way more for almost 2 decades! You say you realize he's not gonna change. So why not ignore him, other than simple refutation? One of you has to stop feeding the beast and I don't think it's gonna be him! WRT your other post from last night, I'm not surprised that you blame me and Richard and turq for the departure of certain posters. IMO we all share the responsibility for that, as well as the ones who left. BTW, I enjoy the exchanges I have with the men on FFL now. Certainly ignore those posts also if you find them objectionable in some way. I have written separate posts to Ann and Emily concerning why I recently responded to them as I did. Judy wrote: Er, except for Fleetwood, you mean. (I'm sure you don't intend to suggest Barry is reasonable and fair, though.) Here's the thing. Your exchanges with the (other) men are deadly banal, bland, vapid. The men draw nothing out of you, rarely ask you questions. Whether that's because they don't find you interesting or for some other reason, I have no idea. (The only man here who has ever found you interesting enough to converse with at length was Robin, and we know how that ended. But up to that point he was able to draw some great stuff from you, and those of us who read those conversations found them delightful--remember Ann's comment that they were like a Japanese tea ceremony?) Your conversations with Ann and Emily and Fleetwood and me, even (maybe especially) when they're negative, at least have some substance to them. We do find you interesting; we ask you questions and do our best to pry straight answers out of you (although we often don't get them). Trying to untangle your attempts to avoid addressing various points you seem to feel are dangerous for you and retreat into banality again is a fascinating exercise. I'm not sure exactly where I'm going with this; just setting out some observations for you to think about (or not). I don't really expect you to come back with anything responsive or relevant, but maybe you'll surprise me.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
Share, take a moment and have a care. You are moving into some dangerous territory for yourself as an individual and as a human being. Be careful that you do not use the mistaken and erroneous notions of your faux friend Barry and your well-intentioned but not-really-helping-you associate Feste to launch into this head space of yours. I don't think it is a healthy one or somewhere that is characterized by what is real or what is true. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with everyone. On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:19 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people -- first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING. * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events being discussed and I have only read about them or heard about them -- is a lie. I am RIGHT, and they are WRONG, and to be WRONG is to LIE. * Holding a different opinion of me, my behavior, and the motives for my behavior than I hold is a LIE. I *know* The Truth about myself, my behavior, and my motives, and if they hold a different view, and express it despite my corrections, they're LYING. * Saying something negative about someone I regard as a friend (even though I've never met them and never will) or as an ally (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) is a LIE. I will defend these allies to the death, and make excuses for *their* LIES with the same vehemence with which I put down the LIES of those who persecute them. * Saying something positive about someone I view negatively is by definition a LIE. The very fact that they don't see this person the way I see them reveals how REEAALLLY REEAALLLY STOOOPID they are, and how smart and superior I am. If they persist in viewing these hooligans positively in the face of my corrections, they're LYING, pure and simple. * Suggesting that *I* have LIED is even more by definition a LIE, because as we all know, I DON'T LIE. I have declared this, so it is TRUE, and never to be contradicted. I am the ONLY person on this forum who cares about The Truth, as well as the ONLY person who *knows* The Truth. Challenge this at your own peril, you LIARS! * Claiming that I persecute or harass people by posting literally hundreds of posts ragging on them per year -- year after year -- is a LIE. I am merely pursuing my dharma, which is to be the Keeper Of The Truth. They *deserve* my invective and my continued attention; I am trying to *help* them by revealing to them what big, fat LIARS they are, and trying to help them see The Truth. Which is that they should always agree with me, of course. * Whenever I criticize or make negative comments about someone, these things should be viewed as The Truth that they are. Challenging them or disagreeing with them is by definition a LIE. Furthermore, when I say these things about someone else, that person *owes me* a point-by-point response to all the things I *know* about them because these things are The Truth. When someone says something negative about me, I owe them nothing but to call them what they are -- a LIAR. See my responses to Richard for the template. * Laughing at me and my behavior is a particularly insidious form of LIE. I *know* The Truth, About Almost Everything, and so my words must be treated with the level of respect and awe I expect. Anything less is a kind of implicit LIE, a suggestion that I don't really *know* the things I claim to know, and that I'm just spouting opinion, like everyone else here. I am NOT like everyone else here; I'm better, smarter, and always RIGHT. Dispute this in any way, and you're LYING. * Finally, writing something and attributing it to me as if I had written it -- no matter how accurate it is -- is by definition a LIE. Ignore the fact that I have failed to condemn several of my allies (for example, Robin, Ravi, Jimbo, and
[FairfieldLife] RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
Gee, seems like in all that time I never managed to get Barry to understand that lying is about deliberately misrepresenting facts, because here he is still pretending it's all about opinion. (Thing is, there have been times when it would have been giving Barry the benefit of the doubt to say he was lying, since his claims were so outlandishly off base that one would have to conclude he was psychotic if he actually believed them.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people -- first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING. * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events being discussed and I have only read about them or heard about them -- is a lie. I am RIGHT, and they are WRONG, and to be WRONG is to LIE. * Holding a different opinion of me, my behavior, and the motives for my behavior than I hold is a LIE. I *know* The Truth about myself, my behavior, and my motives, and if they hold a different view, and express it despite my corrections, they're LYING. * Saying something negative about someone I regard as a friend (even though I've never met them and never will) or as an ally (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) is a LIE. I will defend these allies to the death, and make excuses for *their* LIES with the same vehemence with which I put down the LIES of those who persecute them. * Saying something positive about someone I view negatively is by definition a LIE. The very fact that they don't see this person the way I see them reveals how REEAALLLY REEAALLLY STOOOPID they are, and how smart and superior I am. If they persist in viewing these hooligans positively in the face of my corrections, they're LYING, pure and simple. * Suggesting that *I* have LIED is even more by definition a LIE, because as we all know, I DON'T LIE. I have declared this, so it is TRUE, and never to be contradicted. I am the ONLY person on this forum who cares about The Truth, as well as the ONLY person who *knows* The Truth. Challenge this at your own peril, you LIARS! * Claiming that I persecute or harass people by posting literally hundreds of posts ragging on them per year -- year after year -- is a LIE. I am merely pursuing my dharma, which is to be the Keeper Of The Truth. They *deserve* my invective and my continued attention; I am trying to *help* them by revealing to them what big, fat LIARS they are, and trying to help them see The Truth. Which is that they should always agree with me, of course. * Whenever I criticize or make negative comments about someone, these things should be viewed as The Truth that they are. Challenging them or disagreeing with them is by definition a LIE. Furthermore, when I say these things about someone else, that person *owes me* a point-by-point response to all the things I *know* about them because these things are The Truth. When someone says something negative about me, I owe them nothing but to call them what they are -- a LIAR. See my responses to Richard for the template. * Laughing at me and my behavior is a particularly insidious form of LIE. I *know* The Truth, About Almost Everything, and so my words must be treated with the level of respect and awe I expect. Anything less is a kind of implicit LIE, a suggestion that I don't really *know* the things I claim to know, and that I'm just spouting opinion, like everyone else here. I am NOT like everyone else here; I'm better, smarter, and always RIGHT. Dispute this in any way, and you're LYING. * Finally, writing something and attributing it to me as if I had written it -- no matter how accurate it is -- is by definition a LIE. Ignore the fact that I have failed to condemn several of my allies (for example, Robin, Ravi, Jimbo, and others) when they have done this to other people. They were *justified* in doing this to these other LIARS, because *I DON'T LIKE THEM*. But when someone does this to me, it's a LIE of the basest sort. :-) [ For the record, the above was *not* written by Judy Stein. It was written in a Dutch pub just for fun by someone channeling her, and saying what she would say if she were actually capable of telling The Truth she claims to care so much about. ]
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
It's already way past caring, Ann. The lines have been drawn on this forum years ago. And, while Barry is no admirer of mine, Barry at least wants to make the group interesting to read. There's probably no one on this list that has done more, over a longer period of time, to make this an interesting place to want to be. And, it's not all about Judy - credit where credit is due. On the other hand, Judy wants people to get into shunning, and that's just not going to happen. There's no excuse for promoting shunning on a public forum, but there are lots of fibs that are really funny - almost everyone does it. I mean, if you can't post funny fibs about your debating opponents and their guru, then where is the fun? This is not a truth serum site - as long as you don't cuss, just about anything goes, including posting fibs. On 11/30/2013 8:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, take a moment and have a care. You are moving into some dangerous territory for yourself as an individual and as a human being. Be careful that you do not use the mistaken and erroneous notions of your faux friend Barry and your well-intentioned but not-really-helping-you associate Feste to launch into this head space of yours. I don't think it is a healthy one or somewhere that is characterized by what is real or what is true. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with everyone. On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:19 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people -- first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING. * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events being discussed and I have only read about them or heard about them -- is a lie. I am RIGHT, and they are WRONG, and to be WRONG is to LIE. * Holding a different opinion of me, my behavior, and the motives for my behavior than I hold is a LIE. I *know* The Truth about myself, my behavior, and my motives, and if they hold a different view, and express it despite my corrections, they're LYING. * Saying something negative about someone I regard as a friend (even though I've never met them and never will) or as an ally (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) is a LIE. I will defend these allies to the death, and make excuses for *their* LIES with the same vehemence with which I put down the LIES of those who persecute them. * Saying something positive about someone I view negatively is by definition a LIE. The very fact that they don't see this person the way I see them reveals how REEAALLLY REEAALLLY STOOOPID they are, and how smart and superior I am. If they persist in viewing these hooligans positively in the face of my corrections, they're LYING, pure and simple. * Suggesting that *I* have LIED is even more by definition a LIE, because as we all know, I DON'T LIE. I have declared this, so it is TRUE, and never to be contradicted. I am the ONLY person on this forum who cares about The Truth, as well as the ONLY person who *knows* The Truth. Challenge this at your own peril, you LIARS! * Claiming that I persecute or harass people by posting literally hundreds of posts ragging on them per year -- year after year -- is a LIE. I am merely pursuing my dharma, which is to be the Keeper Of The Truth. They *deserve* my invective and my continued attention; I am trying to *help* them by revealing to them what big, fat LIARS they are, and trying to help them see The Truth. Which is that they should always agree with me, of course. * Whenever I criticize or make negative comments about someone, these things should be viewed as The Truth that they are. Challenging them or disagreeing with them is by definition a LIE. Furthermore, when I say these things about someone else, that person *owes me* a point-by-point response to all the things I *know* about them because these things are The Truth. When someone says something negative about
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
Hopefully Rick as father of the list will be back soon to really clean this FFL community place up throwing a few more people off FFL. A bunch of FF meditators are out of town right now for Thanksgiving elsewhere. This morning I just got a call from an old meditator from Fairfield leaving a recording on my message machine who is over in Detroit visiting Ammachi there. Obviously the phone was being held up to hear the singing at the end of the bhava. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJB4gRp_jU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJB4gRp_jU If Rick is not off gathering interviews of more illumined folks for Batgap.com then he'll proly be home in a day or so too after Thanksgiving elsewhere too. He certainly has work cut out for him to piece together here as he gets back. -Buck always at home in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It's already way past caring, Ann. The lines have been drawn on this forum years ago. And, while Barry is no admirer of mine, Barry at least wants to make the group interesting to read. There's probably no one on this list that has done more, over a longer period of time, to make this an interesting place to want to be. And, it's not all about Judy - credit where credit is due. On the other hand, Judy wants people to get into shunning, and that's just not going to happen. There's no excuse for promoting shunning on a public forum, but there are lots of fibs that are really funny - almost everyone does it. I mean, if you can't post funny fibs about your debating opponents and their guru, then where is the fun? This is not a truth serum site - as long as you don't cuss, just about anything goes, including posting fibs. On 11/30/2013 8:59 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Share, take a moment and have a care. You are moving into some dangerous territory for yourself as an individual and as a human being. Be careful that you do not use the mistaken and erroneous notions of your faux friend Barry and your well-intentioned but not-really-helping-you associate Feste to launch into this head space of yours. I don't think it is a healthy one or somewhere that is characterized by what is real or what is true. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with everyone. On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:19 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people -- first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING. * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events being discussed and I have only read about them or heard about them -- is a lie. I am RIGHT, and they are WRONG, and to be WRONG is to LIE. * Holding a different opinion of me, my behavior, and the motives for my behavior than I hold is a LIE. I *know* The Truth about myself, my behavior, and my motives, and if they hold a different view, and express it despite my corrections, they're LYING. * Saying something negative about someone I regard as a friend (even though I've never met them and never will) or as an ally (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) is a LIE. I will defend these allies to the death, and make excuses for *their* LIES with the same vehemence with which I put down the LIES of those who persecute them. * Saying something positive about someone I view negatively is by definition a LIE. The very fact that they don't see this person the way I see them reveals how REEAALLLY REEAALLLY STOOOPID they are, and how smart and superior I am. If they persist in viewing these hooligans positively in the face of my corrections, they're LYING, pure and simple. * Suggesting that *I* have LIED is even more by definition a LIE, because as we all know, I DON'T LIE. I have declared this,
[FairfieldLife] RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It's already way past caring, Ann. The lines have been drawn on this forum years ago. I am not sure of which caring you are speaking about Richard but I think there is a lot of caring going on here every day. I am not necessarily talking about the caring that is characterized by gentleness and softness but everyone here cares about something when posting here at FFL whether it is getting their viewpoint across, correcting erroneous assumptions or having the desire to back someone else up. I think to care is to somehow value or to be attached to. And, while Barry is no admirer of mine, Barry at least wants to make the group interesting to read. There's probably no one on this list that has done more, over a longer period of time, to make this an interesting place to want to be. I agree that Barry can interject some varied subjects and some of these are worth reading and exploring as they often include links to other sites and feeds. Often he uses these to turn things back onto those participating here at FFL and more often he uses these things as a springboard to toot his own horn all of which is fine. However, his negativity and delight in perpetuating dissension and nurturing old grudges can be really tiresome so that pretty much tips the scales for me. However, Barry is not the focus for me in my daily life and so I can easily leave him on the computer screen. And, it's not all about Judy - credit where credit is due. On the other hand, Judy wants people to get into shunning, and that's just not going to happen. This is not a statement that resonates with me Richard and I think you need to look beyond your own frustration with your history with her to realize this is not true. I find that Judy has her own opinions and reactions to what she reads here and I think she has an adverse reaction to the twisting of facts and the manipulation of things. Others have a greater tolerance of these things so they find it annoying when she points them out or addresses them. That is my perception anyway. Because I am similar to her in my dislike for these same actions or characteristics I rather see her presence here as courageous and refreshing. There's no excuse for promoting shunning on a public forum, but there are lots of fibs that are really funny - almost everyone does it. I mean, if you can't post funny fibs about your debating opponents and their guru, then where is the fun? No one is promoting shunning. However we can all figure out that no one can really convince another of anything. We all seem to have our ideas and our ways of living our lives that you or me or Judy or anyone else can't budge or alter and you know this and I know this. This is not a truth serum site - as long as you don't cuss, just about anything goes, including posting fibs. On 11/30/2013 8:59 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Share, take a moment and have a care. You are moving into some dangerous territory for yourself as an individual and as a human being. Be careful that you do not use the mistaken and erroneous notions of your faux friend Barry and your well-intentioned but not-really-helping-you associate Feste to launch into this head space of yours. I don't think it is a healthy one or somewhere that is characterized by what is real or what is true. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with everyone. On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:19 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people -- first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING. * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events being discussed and I have only read about them or
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein's Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, I'm agin it on all levels. And I don't think Ms. Stein really knows what she hopes to accomplish by all this harassing and name calling. The payoff for her is attention. She's never had the intelligence, creativity, or humanity to gain it from any means other than getting people to argue with her, so she continues to use the methods that have worked for her in the past. If she had interesting things going on in her mundane life, she'd write about them. If she had interesting things going on in her spiritual life, she'd write about them. If she had anything to *contribute*, she'd be contributing. Instead, she picks enemies and stalks them. Go figure. I sure hope the attention she feels she gets from this is worth it. Seems to me it would have been SO much easier just to be interesting. On Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:31 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Judy, what's the action step? What is it that you'd like to see happen? How do you feel -- personally, emotionally, and morally -- about waterboarding? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@ wrote: See, this is what happens when a group tolerates dishonesty. When there are no sanctions against it, not even disapproval, even the weaker members start using dishonesty to justify themselves, as Share does here. The more people who feel safe being dishonest, the more a mythical, false story about the group and its members and interactions takes shape and displaces the real one. History, as they say, is written by the winners, so those who care about having an accurate history need to ensure the liars don't win. Here's the post in question; decide for yourselves whether Share's description of it below is truthful (note the many qualifying phrases that Share flatly denies it contained--including, ironically, it sounds like, which she specifically mentions below): http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/\ \ 319521 Plus which, as I've pointed out before, Share had gotten on my bad side well before this. Share lied: Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with everyone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Poor Judy Stein
On 11/29/2013 10:41 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Here she is having a total meltdown becuz no one believes her crap about being a crusader against dishonesty and even Feste is calling her on her meanness and nails her in a lie about punctuation on blogs and y'know what the worst part is? She can't get anyone to come to her defense the way they used to. The only person who is willing to stand up for Judy any more is the woman who never learned to meditate, has nothing to contribute to the ongoing discussions here, and who only posts to this forum because it gives *her* an opportunity to be mean to people. Birds of a feather, eh? Personally I find it all pretty heartening. A few months ago if Judy had thrown a hissy fit like this and tried to pose as some kind of noble crusader against untruth (because, of course, only SHE knows the truth), she could have gotten a few people to pile on and defend her. But even *they* distance themselves from her these days. Not that that'll stop her, of course. Judy will do what she's always done, and possibly even louder. But at least now she'll be standing in the street screaming like an insane bag lady *all by herself*, and hopefully no one but other crazies will be taken in by the screaming... You mean like this :-D http://youtu.be/TBZuJKQMh_I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein's Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Some people on FFL forget it's just a chat group. That should be the mantra of Fairfield Life: IT'S JUST A CHAT GROUP The TM advanced technique version would be: GET OVER IT, NAMAH, NAMAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
Barry, You have probably spent more time analyzing, responding to, and just plain day-dreaming, about Judy, than I have about my wife, and we live under the same roof. Scary shit, though I will definitely leave it to you, as I'd rather spend my time in Reality - no offense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people -- first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING. * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events being discussed and I have only read about them or heard about them -- is a lie. I am RIGHT, and they are WRONG, and to be WRONG is to LIE. * Holding a different opinion of me, my behavior, and the motives for my behavior than I hold is a LIE. I *know* The Truth about myself, my behavior, and my motives, and if they hold a different view, and express it despite my corrections, they're LYING. * Saying something negative about someone I regard as a friend (even though I've never met them and never will) or as an ally (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) is a LIE. I will defend these allies to the death, and make excuses for *their* LIES with the same vehemence with which I put down the LIES of those who persecute them. * Saying something positive about someone I view negatively is by definition a LIE. The very fact that they don't see this person the way I see them reveals how REEAALLLY REEAALLLY STOOOPID they are, and how smart and superior I am. If they persist in viewing these hooligans positively in the face of my corrections, they're LYING, pure and simple. * Suggesting that *I* have LIED is even more by definition a LIE, because as we all know, I DON'T LIE. I have declared this, so it is TRUE, and never to be contradicted. I am the ONLY person on this forum who cares about The Truth, as well as the ONLY person who *knows* The Truth. Challenge this at your own peril, you LIARS! * Claiming that I persecute or harass people by posting literally hundreds of posts ragging on them per year -- year after year -- is a LIE. I am merely pursuing my dharma, which is to be the Keeper Of The Truth. They *deserve* my invective and my continued attention; I am trying to *help* them by revealing to them what big, fat LIARS they are, and trying to help them see The Truth. Which is that they should always agree with me, of course. * Whenever I criticize or make negative comments about someone, these things should be viewed as The Truth that they are. Challenging them or disagreeing with them is by definition a LIE. Furthermore, when I say these things about someone else, that person *owes me* a point-by-point response to all the things I *know* about them because these things are The Truth. When someone says something negative about me, I owe them nothing but to call them what they are -- a LIAR. See my responses to Richard for the template. * Laughing at me and my behavior is a particularly insidious form of LIE. I *know* The Truth, About Almost Everything, and so my words must be treated with the level of respect and awe I expect. Anything less is a kind of implicit LIE, a suggestion that I don't really *know* the things I claim to know, and that I'm just spouting opinion, like everyone else here. I am NOT like everyone else here; I'm better, smarter, and always RIGHT. Dispute this in any way, and you're LYING. * Finally, writing something and attributing it to me as if I had written it -- no matter how accurate it is -- is by definition a LIE. Ignore the fact that I have failed to condemn several of my allies (for example, Robin, Ravi, Jimbo, and others) when they have done this to other people. They were *justified* in doing this to these other LIARS, because *I DON'T LIKE THEM*. But when someone does this to me, it's a LIE of the basest sort. :-) [ For the record, the above was *not* written by Judy Stein. It was written in a Dutch pub just for fun by someone channeling her, and saying what she would say if she were actually capable of telling The Truth she claims to care so much about. ]
[FairfieldLife] Poor Judy Stein
Here she is having a total meltdown becuz no one believes her crap about being a crusader against dishonesty and even Feste is calling her on her meanness and nails her in a lie about punctuation on blogs and y'know what the worst part is? She can't get anyone to come to her defense the way they used to. The only person who is willing to stand up for Judy any more is the woman who never learned to meditate, has nothing to contribute to the ongoing discussions here, and who only posts to this forum because it gives *her* an opportunity to be mean to people. Birds of a feather, eh? Personally I find it all pretty heartening. A few months ago if Judy had thrown a hissy fit like this and tried to pose as some kind of noble crusader against untruth (because, of course, only SHE knows the truth), she could have gotten a few people to pile on and defend her. But even *they* distance themselves from her these days. Not that that'll stop her, of course. Judy will do what she's always done, and possibly even louder. But at least now she'll be standing in the street screaming like an insane bag lady *all by herself*, and hopefully no one but other crazies will be taken in by the screaming...
[FairfieldLife] Is Judy stuck in a first person shooter game?
Just a fun conjecture, based on this fascinating article. It sounds plausible to me, because what *else* could explain her (and Robin's) seeming need to start arguments, start shooting at the other parties in the arguments, and then strive to keep the arguments going as long as they possibly can. There must be a payoff for them in this. Maybe it's the flow this person writes about. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/11/the-psychology-of\ -first-person-shooter-games.html http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/11/the-psychology-o\ f-first-person-shooter-games.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Judy stuck in a first person shooter game?
Interesting to read too much into loop games. That's what most all computer games are. In fact a first person shooter game is nothing more than shooting gallery on steroids. Loop games were easy to implement on early computers so the game pioneers had fun developing them. And the public found them entertaining. Folks like to shoot things and blow things up. But there is a bigger metaphor when we think of loop games. In fact all computer programs work that way. The computer goes around in a loop and sees what needs to be done and performs it. Come to think of it don't all living things including humans do that? Perhaps now we know the meaning of life. On 11/28/2013 02:59 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Just a fun conjecture, based on this fascinating article. It sounds plausible to me, because what *else* could explain her (and Robin's) seeming need to start arguments, start shooting at the other parties in the arguments, and then strive to keep the arguments going as long as they possibly can. There must be a payoff for them in this. Maybe it's the flow this person writes about. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/11/the-psychology-of-first-person-shooter-games.html
[FairfieldLife] helping Judy with not average
Judy has said that she thinks Robin is not average. She has also said that she has NOT said that he's above average. Very clever is our Judy. Does this mean that she thinks Robin is BELOW average?! Helping her out, perhaps she meant that she thinks Robin is: Allegorically average Beatifically Chronologically Dormantly Ecumenically Fortuitously Gloriously Horizontally Interestingly Jauntily Kinesthetically Languidly Moderately Nautically Occularly Preternatually Quintessentially Robustly Singularly Talamudically Uniquely : Voluminously Whimsically Xenophobically Youthfully Zealously
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
You sound jealous and bitter, Barry, at having lost Judy, to Robin, in your head. Its OK, she will continue to pay attention to you, virtually forever. Yes, it is true, you and Judy were an item, and ROBIN was *the other man*, but now the roles are reversed, and you are left on the outside, looking in. Story of your life, huh? Take heart, Barry, Judy will be back soon enough, to tend to you, personally. Mark my words, you will again be, The Center Of Attention.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
a strange fascination with a serial killer So, it's all about Judy. What you've posted here is close to libel, if not an outright smear. You can do a lot better than this - you're supposed to be a writer, telling the truth, Barry. It looks like you've gone off the deep end this time. Rule 8: Respect other people's privacy. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule8.html So, let's review the rules: 1. Don't use a respondent's name as the subject. 2. Don't post anyone's private email. 3. Don't reveal an anonymous poster's real name. turquoise: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be disappointed.Sachertorte Epicurious | November 2004 by Rick Rodgers Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna, Budapest, and Prague http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF photo by Epicurious * recipe http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043 * reviews (32) http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/reviews/Sachertorte-231043 * photo http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 * video http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/video/Sachertorte-231043 * wine pairings http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/wine-pairings/Sachertorte-231043\ * my notes http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043 * find out more http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/more/Sachertorte-231043 user rating 93% would make it again [user rating] user rating: Sachertorte4 forks rate this recipereview this recipeat a glance main ingredientsChocolate http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=86type=advanced , Apricot http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=470type=advanced typeCake http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=28type=advanced cooks' toolsconversion chart http://www.epicurious.com/tools/conversions technique videos http://www.epicurious.com/video [Sachertorte] http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 enlarge image http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from Rick Rodgers's book http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of... http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 more subscribe to Bon Appétit http://www.condenastdirect.com/group/bna_070507_split ingredientsTorte: * 4 1/2 ounces high-quality bittersweet chocolate, finely chopped * 9 tablespoons (1 stick plus 1 tablespoon) unsalted butter, at cool room temperature * 1 cup confectioners' sugar * 6 large eggs, separated, at room temperature * 1 teaspoon vanilla extract * 1/2 cup granulated sugar * 1 cup all-purpose flour (spoon gently into cup and level top) Assembly:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be disappointed.Sachertorte Epicurious | November 2004 by Rick Rodgers Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna, Budapest, and Prague http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF photo by Epicurious * recipe http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043 * reviews (32) http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/reviews/Sachertorte-231043 * photo http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 * video http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/video/Sachertorte-231043 * wine pairings http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/wine-pairings/Sachertorte-231043\ * my notes http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043 * find out more http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/more/Sachertorte-231043 user rating 93% would make it again [user rating] user rating: Sachertorte4 forks rate this recipereview this recipeat a glance main ingredientsChocolate http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=86type=advanced , Apricot http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=470type=advanced typeCake http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=28type=advanced cooks' toolsconversion chart http://www.epicurious.com/tools/conversions technique videos http://www.epicurious.com/video [Sachertorte] http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 enlarge image http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from Rick Rodgers's book http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of... http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 more subscribe to Bon Appétit http://www.condenastdirect.com/group/bna_070507_split ingredientsTorte: * 4 1/2 ounces high-quality bittersweet chocolate, finely chopped * 9 tablespoons (1 stick plus 1 tablespoon) unsalted butter, at cool room temperature * 1 cup confectioners' sugar *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be disappointed.Sachertorte Epicurious | November 2004 by Rick Rodgers Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna, Budapest, and Prague http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF photo by Epicurious * recipe http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043 * reviews (32) http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/reviews/Sachertorte-231043 * photo http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 * video http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/video/Sachertorte-231043 * wine pairings http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/wine-pairings/Sachertorte-231043\ * my notes http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043 * find out more http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/more/Sachertorte-231043 user rating 93% would make it again [user rating] user rating: Sachertorte4 forks rate this recipereview this recipeat a glance main ingredientsChocolate http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=86type=advanced , Apricot http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=470type=advanced typeCake http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=28type=advanced cooks' toolsconversion chart http://www.epicurious.com/tools/conversions technique videos http://www.epicurious.com/video [Sachertorte] http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 enlarge image http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043 yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from Rick Rodgers's book http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of... http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\ /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 more subscribe to Bon Appétit http://www.condenastdirect.com/group/bna_070507_split ingredientsTorte: *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
Sorry for your opaque enthusiasm for Sachertorte. Perhaps your time would be better spent preparing the ultimate dessert: the pastry named after the patron saint of bakers - Saint Honoratis cream cake. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be disappointed.Sachertorte Epicurious | November 2004 by Rick Rodgers Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna, Budapest, and Prague /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF photo by Epicurious * recipe * reviews (32) * photo * video * wine pairings * my notes * find out more user rating 93% would make it again [user rating] user rating: Sachertorte4 forks rate this recipereview this recipeat a glance main ingredientsChocolate , Apricot typeCake cooks' toolsconversion chart technique videos [Sachertorte] enlarge image yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from Rick Rodgers's book /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of... /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 more subscribe to Bon Appétit ingredientsTorte: * 4 1/2 ounces high-quality bittersweet chocolate, finely chopped * 9 tablespoons (1 stick plus 1 tablespoon) unsalted butter, at cool room temperature * 1 cup confectioners' sugar * 6 large eggs, separated, at room temperature * 1 teaspoon vanilla extract * 1/2 cup granulated sugar * 1 cup all-purpose flour (spoon gently into cup and level top) Assembly: * 1 cup Apricot Glaze * Small Batch Chocolate Glaze * Sweetened Whipped Cream , for serving print a shopping list for this recipe 3 view wine pairings preparation 1. To make the torte: Position a rack in the center of the oven and heat to 400°F. Lightly butter a 9-inch springform pan and line the bottom with a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Sorry for your opaque enthusiasm for Sachertorte. I don't know what you mean by opaque enthusiasm. What I have is a whole-hearted, obvious, guaranteed transparent love of the stuff. Put on your spectacles and have a closer look. And remember, I don't believe in saints - patron or otherwise. Perhaps your time would be better spent preparing the ultimate dessert: the pastry named after the patron saint of bakers - Saint Honoratis cream cake. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's one way of looking at the situation. There are others. And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, and the disputing of them a crime. :-) It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin are those women who develop crushes on men confined to prison for life. Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination with a serial killer or some other lifer they've never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, even though they'll never spend a night together. My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on, off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having cut *himself* off from further communication. So she fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a totally devoted cult follower. One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance* going on between her and Robin, one that has been somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and Steve and myself getting in the way of their True Love. Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never found interesting enough to have any long conversation with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head stalker fantasy stuff. It's just a theory. But run it through your internal processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you, come up with your own theory. But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those she has fantasy romantic relationships with in her head. :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be disappointed.Sachertorte Epicurious | November 2004 by Rick Rodgers Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna, Budapest, and Prague /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF photo by Epicurious * recipe * reviews (32) * photo * video * wine pairings * my notes * find out more user rating 93% would make it again [user rating] user rating: Sachertorte4 forks rate this recipereview this recipeat a glance main ingredientsChocolate , Apricot typeCake cooks' toolsconversion chart technique videos [Sachertorte] enlarge image yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from Rick Rodgers's book /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of... /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1 more subscribe to Bon Appétit ingredientsTorte: * 4 1/2 ounces high-quality bittersweet chocolate, finely chopped * 9 tablespoons (1 stick plus 1 tablespoon) unsalted butter, at cool room temperature * 1 cup confectioners' sugar * 6 large eggs, separated, at room temperature * 1 teaspoon vanilla extract * 1/2 cup
[FairfieldLife] Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R
Share Long: Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you. When someone says they believe they can tell you what to think, you have the right to tell them you believe you have the right to tell them where to go. LoL! Moving on, you think I was wrong when I said psychologically raped to Robin. I think I was emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed by many other inputs. I think I was lacking in psychological development. I think I was lacking in certain communication skills. Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and inclusive of the whole truth than yours. And my inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. My statements on and about Sept 6 were all genuine expressions of how I was feeling when I wrote them. Even now I assess those posts as accurately reporting that I was very upset with Robin and also giving him the benefit of the doubt because I wanted to see if there was a way to continue being friends. It is true that I was experiencing a mix and range of physical and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling psychologically raped. Mix and range of inner experiences is something humans experience. Though evidently not all humans recognize this fact. In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, feste and others write about this, their clarity and greater objectivity has helped me understand what was often subjective and emotionally challenging for me. So I am grateful to them all for helping me find the words to understand events and individuals that I'm still trying to understand. And I continue to incorporate their understandings and wordings into my thinking and writing about it. EMILY, take note, my incorporating of the insights of others will continue to happen. Judy, it's not that I keep going lower and lower. It's that your assessment of your POV keeps going higher and higher. Indicating only that it's all relative. As for your concern about Robin's reputation, as one poster recently said here, what I said was a blip on the screen in comparison to Robin's own posts. I'd add that the postings of many of his supporters also affects his reputation negatively, as difficult as that might be for them to acknowledge. Reasonable people everywhere will consider all that is pertinent. Or maybe ignore the whole thing. Beyond that it is the workings of karma. Poor archives, still being selectively eschewed by Judy. Correcting Judy: I joined FFL in May 2012 and Robin rejoined in June 2012. You are absolutely right, my mistake, and my apologies. Robin *first* joined FFL in June 2011, left in January 2012, and returned in June. You joined in May 2012, as you say. Apparently I conflated the two June dates. I should have double-checked. However, my point stands: You were not new either to FFL or to Robin at the time he made the remarks that you decided four weeks later constituted psychological rape. You had been on FFL for three-and-a-half months, and your conversations with Robin had begun in early July, two months previously.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R
HUH?! Richard, is this there one of them there red herrings or Aunt Sallys or straw individuals? And hopefully by now MJ realizes that you love to taunt him about allegedly being an MIU student. I hope it's ok in terms of saha nav, etc. PS That investment opportunity post took way too long to open. Should I persevere? From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R Share Long: Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you. When someone says they believe they can tell you what to think, you have the right to tell them you believe you have the right to tell them where to go. LoL! Moving on, you think I was wrong when I said psychologically raped to Robin. I think I was emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed by many other inputs. I think I was lacking in psychological development. I think I was lacking in certain communication skills. Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and inclusive of the whole truth than yours. And my inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. My statements on and about Sept 6 were all genuine expressions of how I was feeling when I wrote them. Even now I assess those posts as accurately reporting that I was very upset with Robin and also giving him the benefit of the doubt because I wanted to see if there was a way to continue being friends. It is true that I was experiencing a mix and range of physical and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling psychologically raped. Mix and range of inner experiences is something humans experience. Though evidently not all humans recognize this fact. In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, feste and others write about this, their clarity and greater objectivity has helped me understand what was often subjective and emotionally challenging for me. So I am grateful to them all for helping me find the words to understand events and individuals that I'm still trying to understand. And I continue to incorporate their understandings and wordings into my thinking and writing about it. EMILY, take note, my incorporating of the insights of others will continue to happen. Judy, it's not that I keep going lower and lower. It's that your assessment of your POV keeps going higher and higher. Indicating only that it's all relative. As for your concern about Robin's reputation, as one poster recently said here, what I said was a blip on the screen in comparison to Robin's own posts. I'd add that the postings of many of his supporters also affects his reputation negatively, as difficult as that might be for them to acknowledge. Reasonable people everywhere will consider all that is pertinent. Or maybe ignore the whole thing. Beyond that it is the workings of karma. Poor archives, still being selectively eschewed by Judy. Correcting Judy: I joined FFL in May 2012 and Robin rejoined in June 2012. You are absolutely right, my mistake, and my apologies. Robin *first* joined FFL in June 2011, left in January 2012, and returned in June. You joined in May 2012, as you say. Apparently I conflated the two June dates. I should have double-checked. However, my point stands: You were not new either to FFL or to Robin at the time he made the remarks that you decided four weeks later constituted psychological rape. You had been on FFL for three-and-a-half months, and your conversations with Robin had begun in early July, two months previously.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
obbajeeba: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. So, it's all about Judy. Obba, with Judy away for a week there's hardly anything worth reading from you dweebs, much less commenting on. Your post is a case in point. LoL! Card is apparently on fire and Barry is still at the same smoky café since Monday - while Judy takes a vacation from posting and contemplates the Atlantic Ocean from her window. So, I'm thinking Judy comes out on top again - that's my take on Judy today. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Thank you, Dick Williams. As I squeal victim to you pointing out the obvious, if you had any feelings in your heart, you would have noticed my sincere admiration for Author, which is exactly why I posted the post about her. Thus being a boring board without her, your post makes this week no more brighter than a cowboy ladden with horse semen. You are a stupid man, Dick. Long live Author Judy and may she post forever on FFL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: obbajeeba: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. So, it's all about Judy. Obba, with Judy away for a week there's hardly anything worth reading from you dweebs, much less commenting on. Your post is a case in point. LoL! Card is apparently on fire and Barry is still at the same smoky café since Monday - while Judy takes a vacation from posting and contemplates the Atlantic Ocean from her window. So, I'm thinking Judy comes out on top again - that's my take on Judy today. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Dear Richard, I am sorry to type the below post.. YOU are correct. -obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Thank you, Dick Williams. As I squeal victim to you pointing out the obvious, if you had any feelings in your heart, you would have noticed my sincere admiration for Author, which is exactly why I posted the post about her. Thus being a boring board without her, your post makes this week no more brighter than a cowboy ladden with horse semen. You are a stupid man, Dick. Long live Author Judy and may she post forever on FFL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: obbajeeba: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. So, it's all about Judy. Obba, with Judy away for a week there's hardly anything worth reading from you dweebs, much less commenting on. Your post is a case in point. LoL! Card is apparently on fire and Barry is still at the same smoky café since Monday - while Judy takes a vacation from posting and contemplates the Atlantic Ocean from her window. So, I'm thinking Judy comes out on top again - that's my take on Judy today. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Obba, you enabler! You bald faced enabler!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Robin red Breast. I like Robin's! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Judy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R5xcydYKqU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Obba, you enabler! You bald faced enabler!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
OPPPSIE! Typo. I am a horrible editor... I meant, I like Robins. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Robin red Breast. I like Robin's! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
Author, for your listening pleasure while you read the posts for the next week...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23PjBqnH58M and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFdCR4dyvk and when the Turq comes on, listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvhds5k10Qo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: OPPPSIE! Typo. I am a horrible editor... I meant, I like Robins. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Robin red Breast. I like Robin's! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Author, for your listening pleasure while you read the posts for the next week... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23PjBqnH58M and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFdCR4dyvk and when the Turq comes on, listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvhds5k10Qo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: OPPPSIE! Typo. I am a horrible editor... I meant, I like Robins. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Robin red Breast. I like Robin's! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. [Baby Robins 2nd Day] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy author
she's got her game face on --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look. I'm just sayin. Don't read anything into it. But look what's come together. A sentimental journey. the second day of spring. and you know what signifies spring? I thought you did. a robin. that's right. a robin signifies spring. [Baby Robins 2nd Day] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Added, for her sexually exciting dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My wish for Judy, based on one her last posts. (ooopsie, from last week that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUw125JMVFI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Since over the limit count takes penalties to through the next week, I thought we can play a game here with Judy. Either have her hysterically laughing or really steamed at the ears. Let's see if anyone wants to join in to make Auth want to post. Was there not a day that went by when the Turq reached close to his usb port to plug in his extraum...yeah.. keyboard so it reaches to his bed area, right next to, cozy to, his dogs, wink, so he can delightfully type love notes to Judy? I remember a time when Judy gave Barry a nudge of confidence boost by spanking him for something we can only imagine. Dancing the two in photo shop images contest?! Random ideas to pry her accurate mind and fingers to send away as MJ did by accident, conflicting with the save draft mode
[FairfieldLife] For Judy
http://vimeo.com/4915499
[FairfieldLife] Re: JUDY!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6B1D0oyBK8feature=youtu.be And not a moment too soon! Thanks, obba. I hadn't seen this. I kinda doubt the film will ever get made, but one can dream... For those who've never seen it, here's the original video, the prequel to the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeaHbE-Q2s
[FairfieldLife] Re: JUDY!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New!!!!!!!!!!!!
You never know. Did you catch the butt crack of Jesus as he falls out of the plane? lol. The original post, Jesus the Musical, Judy gets full credit for posting it here on FFL 2.5 years ago! Thank you for sharing! ;0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6B1D0oyBK8feature=youtu.be And not a moment too soon! Thanks, obba. I hadn't seen this. I kinda doubt the film will ever get made, but one can dream... For those who've never seen it, here's the original video, the prequel to the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeaHbE-Q2s
[FairfieldLife] Re: JUDY!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: You never know. Did you catch the butt crack of Jesus as he falls out of the plane? lol.] OMG, I missed it! Ahhh. Saw it this time. Thanks! (The guilty bus driver looks a lot more Amish than Jewish.) The original post, Jesus the Musical, Judy gets full credit for posting it here on FFL 2.5 years ago! Thank you for sharing! ;0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6B1D0oyBK8feature=youtu.be And not a moment too soon! Thanks, obba. I hadn't seen this. I kinda doubt the film will ever get made, but one can dream... For those who've never seen it, here's the original video, the prequel to the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeaHbE-Q2s
[FairfieldLife] Re: JUDY!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahaa, you are right! Amish! hahahaha He could be both! hahaha --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: You never know. Did you catch the butt crack of Jesus as he falls out of the plane? lol.] OMG, I missed it! Ahhh. Saw it this time. Thanks! (The guilty bus driver looks a lot more Amish than Jewish.) The original post, Jesus the Musical, Judy gets full credit for posting it here on FFL 2.5 years ago! Thank you for sharing! ;0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6B1D0oyBK8feature=youtu.be And not a moment too soon! Thanks, obba. I hadn't seen this. I kinda doubt the film will ever get made, but one can dream... For those who've never seen it, here's the original video, the prequel to the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeaHbE-Q2s
[FairfieldLife] Re: JUDY!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, Emily. Mostly happy I am. This is the trailer for the sequel being made of what Judy first posted on here a few years ago.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKk00OYKhU Best to you and your family, also. :) Peace --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Jesus is picked up and flies away - very funny Obba.  You are an espiritu libre.  The best to you and your family.  Emily From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] JUDY!!! Jesus Returns!! New  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6B1D0oyBK8feature=youtu.be
[FairfieldLife] To Judy from Emily
Dear Judy, I want you to know that I don't usually appreciate soprano's but, I have grown and changed over this last year and I thoroughly appreciated the beauty and voice of Anna Netrebko. (I really want to add a v in there somewhere.) How fascinating that the mad scene was based on real events. Things were so tragically complicated back then. I have a different kind of song for you and am curious as to what you might think about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeDylD8dV7U I will start by saying that, well, the *hair,* the *hair* sends me into a state of sweet ecstasy. If you listen to all 7.33 minutes of it, there's a nod at the end that is just so lovely. Regards, Emily.
Re: [FairfieldLife] from Judy and now from Share
Dear Sharester: Huh? We are like two parallel lines traveling through the universe, you and I. So, you *did* pray for Judy to post out? *You* said it - I was joking in my post, just so you know - acknowledging your recent posts to her in a humorous way. No, you don't understand The Context, but neither do I...I think one had to be there. It was an experiential thing. I *do* begin to understand what Robin is saying and an intro like that would have helped the story, but that's not what it was about. It was simply, in my view, Bill working to understand and document his life. The book has merit and I thank him for sharing it. I don't project what was in the book on Robin today. If I was judged on my activities 30 years ago, I might just be getting out of prison right now. There is grace and I don't know why I escaped that fate, but I did and went on to mainstream and have children and be faced with my lack of compassion. Wasn't Ann's response simply the most beautiful thing you've read here in a long time? I had a good long cry, I really did. Twisting? Share, I have realized that you are a literal person and don't understand my humor. It's O.K. I will work hard not to confuse you in the future, but I actually think we are at a stopping point here. I am so sorry that you have chosen to subvert my individuality and refuse to acknowledge me in any way that doesn't assume I am part of a cult and working in cahoots with my cult buddies. Way to avoid your responsibility - it's demeaning, debiliting, degrading, and destabilizing (define destabilizing for me, will you?). Are you in Unity? Is this the problem? You see me and everyone else in wts as one? I am praying for complete healing for you. On second thought, *Frankenstein* (I should replace the word fuck with something more amenable, don't you think? I'm so uncouth with my appreciation of sailor's talk), I simply pray for miracles, miracles, sweetheart, miracles. Compassionately, Emily. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] from Judy and now from Share Emily are you saying that I prayed dear God, please break Judy's Comcast?! Let's fantasize for a moment that I knew she has Comcast and I did. Then my bad. But God's bad too. Right? And or reality's bad. And Comcast's bad too. And maybe even Barry's bad because in the Now he expressed gratitude about it. How about Judy's bad? Any of that in the equation? And by the same logic did my alleged prayers cause Hurricane Sandy?! Wow, I didn't know my prayers were so powerful. And according to your buddies aren't I supposedly out of touch with reality? Then how could reality possibly answer any prayers of mine?! Going deeper, if reality or God did answer my prayers, does that mean something positive about me or does that mean something negative about me? Your post implies the latter. But supposedly it means that my personal ontology is well aligned with reality. In this Context it can't really have both a positive and a negative meaning about me. Right? But perhaps in this regard I've not properly understood the Context. dear FFL, this is exactly the kind of twisting of ideas that makes me question the so called honesty of those who are so negative towards me. It's not that they're negative. It's that out of their bias, they twist and distort even simple logic and even their own ideas. And yes, I sent up 2 or 3 one liners to God that Judy would post out. Why wouldn't I?! Now return to the sentence Then my bad in the first paragraph above and simply continue reading. PS to Emptybill: I tried to apply the so what sutra to this. I failed. My bad again. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 1:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] from Judy Judy sent me a private communique - to thank me for supporting her in full wts style (she has, of course, badly misinterpreted me as I am fully engaged in refuting this phenomenon and I will be the first to call her on this egregious misinterpretation on her part) - and to ask me to let ya'll know that her Comcast is on the fritz and she will be quiet until it is restored. Share, reality has answered your prayers. Judy, the non-existent wts crowd wishes your internet a speedy recovery.
Re: [FairfieldLife] to Judy
Dear Share, I am doing a 180 on a comment I made in a prior post. The most compassionate thing you could do for me would be *to read* my posts - the ones you have time for. First, I just want to tell you congratulations on expressing your outrage in full sentences out loud. Much nicer than that irritating passive-aggressive way. At least for me. I hear what you are saying. This is a plus. Was there a lot of piling on? I haven't checked yet, but I wish you'd stop accusing people you think don't like you of being in a pile-on league ready to go after you. There is another way to look at it. Let me know if you'd like my opinion. My comments are below: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to Judy You began misinterpreting me on Sept 9 post 319521 and have continued to do so up to the present. But what is the real problem is your asserting that your opinions, misinterpretations, POVs are the accurate ones, the truthful ones. Judy has presented the majority of her posts back to you with excerpts of what you wrote in an effort to get you to look closely at the words you've written. She has admitted that she has been harder on you (in that she hasn't bent over backwards to apologize like Robin did) than others have. Judy may not apologize for what she writes if it offends someone or not, but she takes responsibility for writing it. Have you taken responsibility for what you've written? It took me two weeks to get you to admit (I think?) that you really do believe there is a version of WTS going on here at FFL. Just come out and say it - then we can talk about why you think this is and what those of us on the hit list are in for. Have you admitted honestly to the way you've dissed Judy? Do you think that you have? Should you clean up your side of the street too? Honestly, if I had Judy, Ann and raunchy and Ravi and Robin and me and others posting to me with a common theme - I would respect them enough in their own right, flaws and all, to try and figure out what the heck they were trying to tell me. And then, I would run like hell. Now about my alleged dishonesty: I have never experienced a situation such as I have had with Robin. laughinggull wrote insightfully about changing his opinions. But for me about Robin, it has been more even than that. Since Sept 6 I've been trying to make sense of all that has happened. It has been a challenging process to understand what is going on within me and with him. I think this is the fairest statement you've made to date, and I like the nice, diplomatic words you usechallenging processvery corporate. Your constant and vitriolic butting in has merely made this process more challenging. At least for me. You leveled an incredible, vitriolic allegation at Robin publicly here and then substantiated it based on private communiques you said you had with him and others. You have never acknowledged that there might be a different way to look at it, or that you have a responsibility to apologize yourself for your behavior, regardless if you think you are right or wrong - your choice of attack was mean-spirited at the very least and condemning (particularly towards a male, IMO - but I already had that conversation). Robin made a serious attempt to apologize to you for what could have caused you so much distress. Judy has and does support Robin. I don't expect this to change and neither should you. She's read more of his posts than probably anyone here and she also has an excellent memory and ability to search the archives to attempt to maintain accurate documentation of conversations - to keep record of context, for example, and make it available for review again. She jumps in with her interpretation of events - so does everyone. This whole vitriolic butting in thing though, and I say this to laughingfully also, is a protocol that simply doesn't apply here on a public internet forum. It's actually a gift the way I look at it - my way is another way to look at it. You are not a victim - you have stated you don't read her posts anymore - I think that's a mistake, but you might need to toughen up and take criticism the way its given on FFL, not limit your ability to receive feedback by your criteria only. That's what the healing sessions are for, not FFL. You cannot control FFL. But you have little or no compassion for this. You don't even have the common sense understanding that not everyone has the time to check archives. Instead you call people like me and Steve lazy. Mostly, Judy is calling you and Steve lazy for not supporting the allegations you are asserting, particularly if the argument cries for a little support, or, in your case Share, you often change up what *YOU SAY* and pretend
[FairfieldLife] from Judy
Judy sent me a private communique - to thank me for supporting her in full wts style (she has, of course, badly misinterpreted me as I am fully engaged in refuting this phenomenon and I will be the first to call her on this egregious misinterpretation on her part) - and to ask me to let ya'll know that her Comcast is on the fritz and she will be quiet until it is restored. Share, reality has answered your prayers. Judy, the non-existent wts crowd wishes your internet a speedy recovery.
[FairfieldLife] to Judy
You began misinterpreting me on Sept 9 post 319521 and have continued to do so up to the present. But what is the real problem is your asserting that your opinions, misinterpretations, POVs are the accurate ones, the truthful ones. Now about my alleged dishonesty: I have never experienced a situation such as I have had with Robin. laughinggull wrote insightfully about changing his opinions. But for me about Robin, it has been more even than that. Since Sept 6 I've been trying to make sense of all that has happened. It has been a challenging process to understand what is going on within me and with him. Your constant and vitriolic butting in has merely made this process more challenging. At least for me. But you have little or no compassion for this. You don't even have the common sense understanding that not everyone has the time to check archives. Instead you call people like me and Steve lazy. You don't recognize that people have imperfect memories. Add to this your lack of compassion and what emerges is your calling me a liar again and again. And do you really think that all the badgering and name calling really makes the situation better? Oh, right, I forgot, you don't really care about that, do you? Maybe you're just happy to have someone other than Barry to attack. OTOH, it's damned if I do, damned if I don't. Meaning there's your opposite accusation that I think I'm all love and light or try to appear that I am. Maybe I seem that way to you because I don't get hateful and vitriolic like you do. It's called projecting a golden shadow, BTW. About my alleged avoiding of confrontation: I have 7 posts per day and lots of interesting people on FFL to respond to. People whose opinion I do care about. I am not going to waste all my posts replying to you because what is the point? You are convinced that you are right and that I'm a liar. Plus from that first upset you have been biased towards Robin. Fine, you've known each other longer. You have some strange karma to work out with each other. Whatever! BTW, there's a big difference between being loyal and being biased. The latter is not healthy. And if I'm really such a liar, so toxic, so lacking in honesty and integrity, why would you even want to have any communication with me at all? In some ways this is the most baffling question of all. Now everyone, let's watch the tedious and predictable piling on that happens.
[FairfieldLife] Hey Judy! We Hope You're Doing OK After the Storm
Keep warm and take care. Our thoughts and awareness are with you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Judy! We Hope You're Doing OK After the Storm
Awww. So sweet. Yes, Judy they are. If there is one thing I think of when I think of Judy, it is resourceful. We love you Judy! Tee Hee. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey Judy! We Hope You're Doing OK After the Storm Keep warm and take care. Our thoughts and awareness are with you.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Damn laughingoutloud108 - LOL..you know the secret, but why eyes closed and fingers crossed - you should have been brave and courageous. Anyway are you Vaj's long lost brother or something? I am utterly devastated by that last question. Now you know MY secret...LOL. Now go play in the curds and ghee. On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:11 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** (Sitting here with eyes tightly closed and fingers crossed) Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hey laughingstock108, I don't like your jerk-off name, I don't like your jerk-off face, I don't like your jerk-off behavior and I don't like you...jerk-off. Do I make myself clear? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:55 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Hang in there Share...you have at least one more supporter out here who somewhat feels what you are trying to do. Susan was most certainly right when she indicated that FFL had become (and I'm summarizing here) a somewhat different creature than what it started as so many years ago. There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. We can learn from each other if what is being offered is worthy of our attention. Knowledge IS structured in consciousness...but I don't want to be anywhere near the state of consciousness required to understand what some of you are trying to say or do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL.Ãâ And he did so twice.Ãâ And I mentioned that the first time he did so.Ãâ Yet you began the nitpicky piling on.Ãâ Not Curtis, you.Ãâ And you continued to do so.Ãâ Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin.Ãâ For me this is a crucial point.Ãâ You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin.Ãâ You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter.Ãâ Nor did you ever attempt to understand them.Ãâ This is also crucial.Ãâ You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that.Ãâ A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances.Ãâ Compassionate is obvious.Ãâ Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict?Ãâ If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy.Ãâ You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange.Ãâ Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges.Ãâ Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important:Ãâ that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology Ãâ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that.Ãâ When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Damn laughingoutloud108 - LOL..you know the secret, but why eyes closed and fingers crossed - you should have been brave and courageous. Anyway are you Vaj's long lost brother or something? I am udderly devastated by your question...now you know MY secret...LOL. Now go play in the curds and ghee. On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:11 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** (Sitting here with eyes tightly closed and fingers crossed) Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hey laughingstock108, I don't like your jerk-off name, I don't like your jerk-off face, I don't like your jerk-off behavior and I don't like you...jerk-off. Do I make myself clear? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:55 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Hang in there Share...you have at least one more supporter out here who somewhat feels what you are trying to do. Susan was most certainly right when she indicated that FFL had become (and I'm summarizing here) a somewhat different creature than what it started as so many years ago. There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. We can learn from each other if what is being offered is worthy of our attention. Knowledge IS structured in consciousness...but I don't want to be anywhere near the state of consciousness required to understand what some of you are trying to say or do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL.Ãâ And he did so twice.Ãâ And I mentioned that the first time he did so.Ãâ Yet you began the nitpicky piling on.Ãâ Not Curtis, you.Ãâ And you continued to do so.Ãâ Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin.Ãâ For me this is a crucial point.Ãâ You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin.Ãâ You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter.Ãâ Nor did you ever attempt to understand them.Ãâ This is also crucial.Ãâ You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that.Ãâ A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances.Ãâ Compassionate is obvious.Ãâ Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict?Ãâ If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy.Ãâ You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange.Ãâ Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges.Ãâ Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important:Ãâ that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology Ãâ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that.Ãâ When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Ravioli My Devi is Ekajati. She doesn't waste time with utter idiots. My Guru says she only cares about advaya-jñana but for your sake, I'll ask her to give you a glace. Just don't be arrogant, since she can deal roughly with stupid fools. For your sake, I'll pray for you beneficence. You need it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Richard J. Williams richard@...wrote: ** Ravi Chivukula: Empty - is it, is that what your Devi says - to taunt women here? I never heard back from you since November you dumb MF'er... Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, Ravi. Right..thanks Richard, poor emptybill, sob, sniffle, sniffle - I'm being too hard on him, poor bastard. So what if he doesn't have any skills to deal with real women and gets cursed by them, he has his fantasized Devi. It's all good - I'm sure he gets along well with his Devi, right empty? The obsessed, friendless, possibly sexually dysfunctional loser expat drifting through the world of newsgroups and message boards. The erstwhile participants driven to juvenile hazing rituals routinely go on to more even less important projects, like walking the dog past a cemetary. It's a rabbit hole game to establish the newsworthiness of trolling, when a bunch of spoiled, chat-room yakkers, try to surprise the Old Guys and Gals, with ...have you anything new to say? Go figure. Here, the fragility-of-childhood is prominent and the disappointments which come from not growing up are central. Adults who are torn in time, dislodged and displaced from the safety of family childhood, yet not ready, either, for the world of adulthood, parenting, or even voting. Here, the grotesque becomes human nature - with a talent rooted in envy - a scary vision of man alone, shut off in his room, cold, bareness, and vacancy, and inertia - the emotions of solitude are apparent and flourish in the online world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Empty - you idiot - don't irritate me with the same stupid shit OK? We have already covered this back in November - you need to show respect to your daddy - OK? Love, Ravi Shiva. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ravioli My Devi is Ekajati. She doesn't waste time with utter idiots. My Guru says she only cares about advaya-jñana but for your sake, I'll ask her to give you a glace. Just don't be arrogant, since she can deal roughly with stupid fools. For your sake, I'll pray for you beneficence. You need it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Richard J. Williams richard@...wrote: ** Ravi Chivukula: Empty - is it, is that what your Devi says - to taunt women here? I never heard back from you since November you dumb MF'er... Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, Ravi. Right..thanks Richard, poor emptybill, sob, sniffle, sniffle - I'm being too hard on him, poor bastard. So what if he doesn't have any skills to deal with real women and gets cursed by them, he has his fantasized Devi. It's all good - I'm sure he gets along well with his Devi, right empty? The obsessed, friendless, possibly sexually dysfunctional loser expat drifting through the world of newsgroups and message boards. The erstwhile participants driven to juvenile hazing rituals routinely go on to more even less important projects, like walking the dog past a cemetary. It's a rabbit hole game to establish the newsworthiness of trolling, when a bunch of spoiled, chat-room yakkers, try to surprise the Old Guys and Gals, with ...have you anything new to say? Go figure. Here, the fragility-of-childhood is prominent and the disappointments which come from not growing up are central. Adults who are torn in time, dislodged and displaced from the safety of family childhood, yet not ready, either, for the world of adulthood, parenting, or even voting. Here, the grotesque becomes human nature - with a talent rooted in envy - a scary vision of man alone, shut off in his room, cold, bareness, and vacancy, and inertia - the emotions of solitude are apparent and flourish in the online world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:07 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Damn laughingoutloud108 - LOL..you know the secret, but why eyes closed and fingers crossed - you should have been brave and courageous. Anyway are you Vaj's long lost brother or something? I am udderly devastated by your question...now you know MY secret...LOL. Now go play in the curds and ghee. Look I want to play in the curds and ghee but you are not helping it are you? Why would you be udderly devastated by question yet I know your secret? So you are not Vaj's long lost brother? But what's with all the DNFTT's? Are you Barry's emotionally healthy fantasy creation then? Or Curtis's resurrected fantasized self? What are you laughingmyassoff108? Come on give me something man - I beg you.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
emptybill: My Devi is Ekajati... He was also the great expert of Shree Vidya and probably all the present day experts in Varanasi have somehow or the other obtained Shree vidya from him or his pupils... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Karpatri Shree Vidya: The details of the beliefs vary in different texts, but the general principles are similar to those found in Kashmir Shaivism...The name srividya is also used to refer to a specific mantra used in this tradition having fifteen syllables... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Empty - You are physically repulsive, intellectually retarded, vulgar, insensitive, selfish, stupid, you have no taste, a lousy sense of humor and you smell. On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: ** It must be hard to face the truth. So many posters here view you as just a shrew. Not me of course . Rather, I believe you are a magnificent bodhisattva, bent upon liberating everyone in all possible universes ... even if they don't want it. This is the burden you have taken upon yourself 'cause you really love everyone ... no matter what. Magnificent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Hey laughingstock108, I don't like your jerk-off name, I don't like your jerk-off face, I don't like your jerk-off behavior and I don't like you...jerk-off. Do I make myself clear? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:55 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Hang in there Share...you have at least one more supporter out here who somewhat feels what you are trying to do. Susan was most certainly right when she indicated that FFL had become (and I'm summarizing here) a somewhat different creature than what it started as so many years ago. There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. We can learn from each other if what is being offered is worthy of our attention. Knowledge IS structured in consciousness...but I don't want to be anywhere near the state of consciousness required to understand what some of you are trying to say or do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL. And he did so twice. And I mentioned that the first time he did so. Yet you began the nitpicky piling on. Not Curtis, you. And you continued to do so. Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin. For me this is a crucial point. You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin. You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter. Nor did you ever attempt to understand them. This is also crucial. You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that. A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances. Compassionate is obvious. Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict? If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy. You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange. Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges. Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important: that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that. When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are. You don't get to have a private exchange on a public forum. That's what email is for. It wasn't my butting in that formed your current opinions of me in any case. It's that I took you to task for the misstatements and unfairness in your posts. Curtis butted in as well, but he supported you, so you didn't form a negative opinion of him for doing so.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
(Sitting here with eyes tightly closed and fingers crossed) Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hey laughingstock108, I don't like your jerk-off name, I don't like your jerk-off face, I don't like your jerk-off behavior and I don't like you...jerk-off. Do I make myself clear? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:55 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Hang in there Share...you have at least one more supporter out here who somewhat feels what you are trying to do. Susan was most certainly right when she indicated that FFL had become (and I'm summarizing here) a somewhat different creature than what it started as so many years ago. There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. We can learn from each other if what is being offered is worthy of our attention. Knowledge IS structured in consciousness...but I don't want to be anywhere near the state of consciousness required to understand what some of you are trying to say or do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL.à And he did so twice.à And I mentioned that the first time he did so.à Yet you began the nitpicky piling on.à Not Curtis, you.à And you continued to do so.à Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin.à For me this is a crucial point.à You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin.à You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter.à Nor did you ever attempt to understand them.à This is also crucial.à You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that.à A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances.à Compassionate is obvious.à Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict?à If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy.à You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange.à Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges.à Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important:à that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology à --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that.à When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are. You don't get to have a private exchange on a public forum. That's what email is for. It wasn't my butting in that formed your current opinions of me in any case. It's that I took you to task for the misstatements and unfairness in your posts. Curtis butted in as well, but he supported you, so you didn't form a negative opinion of him for doing so.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
You continually piled on and nitpicked... laughinggull108: Knowledge IS structured in consciousness... Based on what you wrote, this is 'nitpicking' to post that 'knowledge is structured in consciousnes', at least on FFL. LoL! I have the Mandukya Upanishad with Shankara's detailed commentary. Nowhere is there a discussion of 7 states of consciousness, much less Maharishi's 7 states. 320514 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320514 The three fundamental states of consciousness according to Kashmere Trika: jgrat - waking state svapna - dreaming suupti - dreamless sleep Besides these three there is another state which has no name (turya - the fourth) because it is indescribable. This fourth state is that of perfect fusion of pramatri, pramana and prameya, also known as superconsciouness, pervading the other three states and existing also outside them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trika 'Kashmir Shaivism, The Secret Supreme' by Swami Lakshman Jee, pag. 73 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Lakshman_Joo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Lakshman_Joo
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise. emptybill: It must be hard to face the truth... Barry wrote that he doesn't believe in a larger 'truth', so yeah why would he believe in any smaller truths? LoL! Barry believes in 'free will' and 'vijnana' does not mean conciousness. LoL! Yeah, the truth, Wright, Bill? The concept of free will plays a central role in Kashmir Shaivism. Known under the technical name of svatantrya it is the cause of the creation of the universe - a primordial force that stirs up the absolute and manifests the world inside the supreme consciousness of Siva. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_ShaivismKashmir The details of the beliefs vary in different texts, but the general principles are similar to those found in Kashmir Shaivism...The name srividya is also used to refer to a specific mantra used in this tradition having fifteen syllables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Ravioli Sorry you have such self-loathing. Wouldn't you feel better with a completely new incarnation? Pray to Devi to spare you from yourself. I hear she's quite merciful. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Empty - You are physically repulsive, intellectually retarded, vulgar, insensitive, selfish, stupid, you have no taste, a lousy sense of humor and you smell. On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: ** It must be hard to face the truth. So many posters here view you as just a shrew. Not me of course . Rather, I believe you are a magnificent bodhisattva, bent upon liberating everyone in all possible universes ... even if they don't want it. This is the burden you have taken upon yourself 'cause you really love everyone ... no matter what. Magnificent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Empty - is it, is that what your Devi says - to taunt women here? I never heard back from you since November you dumb MF'er. So anyway it's confirmed, this is indeed you, LOL...- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npwvcw3ZnpQ On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:11 AM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ravioli Sorry you have such self-loathing. Wouldn't you feel better with a completely new incarnation? Pray to Devi to spare you from yourself. I hear she's quite merciful. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Empty - You are physically repulsive, intellectually retarded, vulgar, insensitive, selfish, stupid, you have no taste, a lousy sense of humor and you smell. On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: ** It must be hard to face the truth. So many posters here view you as just a shrew. Not me of course . Rather, I believe you are a magnificent bodhisattva, bent upon liberating everyone in all possible universes ... even if they don't want it. This is the burden you have taken upon yourself 'cause you really love everyone ... no matter what. Magnificent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Wake up Willy and smell the etymological cognates. Vi-jnana (vi = apart, separate, jña =to know) is cognate with Latin dis-cerne (dis = apart, cernere = perceive). Con-scious (con = with/together, scire = know) is a Latin loan-translation from Greek syn-eidos = with seeing). Vijñana therefore means distinguishing apart something from something else. In Vijñanavada epistemology it indicates the skandha of being aware or knowing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise. emptybill: It must be hard to face the truth... Barry wrote that he doesn't believe in a larger 'truth', so yeah why would he believe in any smaller truths? LoL! Barry believes in 'free will' and 'vijnana' does not mean conciousness. LoL! Yeah, the truth, Wright, Bill? The concept of free will plays a central role in Kashmir Shaivism. Known under the technical name of svatantrya it is the cause of the creation of the universe - a primordial force that stirs up the absolute and manifests the world inside the supreme consciousness of Siva. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_ShaivismKashmir The details of the beliefs vary in different texts, but the general principles are similar to those found in Kashmir Shaivism...The name srividya is also used to refer to a specific mantra used in this tradition having fifteen syllables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
emptybill: In Vijñanavada epistemology it indicates the skandha of being aware or knowing... The term 'vijnana' in Yogacara Buddhism also means 'consciousness': http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Vijnanavada http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Vijnanavada The term 'vijnana' in Yogacara Buddhism means 'consciousness', one of the main features of which is the concept of the 'vijnapti-mitra' - a storehouse consciousness. These notions about consciousness come from the Lanakavatra Sutra, says Tola. According to Vasubnadhu, there are eight consciousnesses: the five sense-consciousnesses, mind (perception), manas (self-consciousness), and the storehouse- consciousness. Work cited: 'Being As Consciousness: Yogacara Philosophy of Buddhism' by Fernando Tola and Carmon Dragonetti pg xiii Vijnanavada Buddhism contributed two important emanationist ideas: the metaphysical idea of emanation from an original universal consciousness (the Alaya-vijnana)... Read more: http://www.kheper.net/topics/Buddhism/Vijnanavada.htm http://www.kheper.net/topics/Buddhism/Vijnanavada.htm Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise. It must be hard to face the truth... Barry wrote that he doesn't believe in a larger 'truth', so yeah why would he believe in any smaller truths? LoL! Barry believes in 'free will' and 'vijnana' does not mean conciousness. LoL! Yeah, the truth, Wright, Bill? The concept of free will plays a central role in Kashmir Shaivism. Known under the technical name of svatantrya it is the cause of the creation of the universe - a primordial force that stirs up the absolute and manifests the world inside the supreme consciousness of Siva. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_ShaivismKashmir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_ShaivismKashmir The details of the beliefs vary in different texts, but the general principles are similar to those found in Kashmir Shaivism...The name srividya is also used to refer to a specific mantra used in this tradition having fifteen syllables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Ravi Chivukula: Empty - is it, is that what your Devi says - to taunt women here? I never heard back from you since November you dumb MF'er... Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, Ravi. The obsessed, friendless, possibly sexually dysfunctional loser expat drifting through the world of newsgroups and message boards. The erstwhile participants driven to juvenile hazing rituals routinely go on to more even less important projects, like walking the dog past a cemetary. It's a rabbit hole game to establish the newsworthiness of trolling, when a bunch of spoiled, chat-room yakkers, try to surprise the Old Guys and Gals, with ...have you anything new to say? Go figure. Here, the fragility-of-childhood is prominent and the disappointments which come from not growing up are central. Adults who are torn in time, dislodged and displaced from the safety of family childhood, yet not ready, either, for the world of adulthood, parenting, or even voting. Here, the grotesque becomes human nature - with a talent rooted in envy - a scary vision of man alone, shut off in his room, cold, bareness, and vacancy, and inertia - the emotions of solitude are apparent and flourish in the online world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.uswrote: ** Ravi Chivukula: Empty - is it, is that what your Devi says - to taunt women here? I never heard back from you since November you dumb MF'er... Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, Ravi. Right..thanks Richard, poor emptybill, sob, sniffle, sniffle - I'm being too hard on him, poor bastard. So what if he doesn't have any skills to deal with real women and gets cursed by them, he has his fantasized Devi. It's all good - I'm sure he gets along well with his Devi, right empty? The obsessed, friendless, possibly sexually dysfunctional loser expat drifting through the world of newsgroups and message boards. The erstwhile participants driven to juvenile hazing rituals routinely go on to more even less important projects, like walking the dog past a cemetary. It's a rabbit hole game to establish the newsworthiness of trolling, when a bunch of spoiled, chat-room yakkers, try to surprise the Old Guys and Gals, with ...have you anything new to say? Go figure. Here, the fragility-of-childhood is prominent and the disappointments which come from not growing up are central. Adults who are torn in time, dislodged and displaced from the safety of family childhood, yet not ready, either, for the world of adulthood, parenting, or even voting. Here, the grotesque becomes human nature - with a talent rooted in envy - a scary vision of man alone, shut off in his room, cold, bareness, and vacancy, and inertia - the emotions of solitude are apparent and flourish in the online world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Damn laughingoutloud108 - LOL..you know the secret, but why eyes closed and fingers crossed - you should have been brave and courageous. Anyway are you Vaj's long lost brother or something? On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:11 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** (Sitting here with eyes tightly closed and fingers crossed) Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna...Baby Krishna... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hey laughingstock108, I don't like your jerk-off name, I don't like your jerk-off face, I don't like your jerk-off behavior and I don't like you...jerk-off. Do I make myself clear? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:55 AM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Hang in there Share...you have at least one more supporter out here who somewhat feels what you are trying to do. Susan was most certainly right when she indicated that FFL had become (and I'm summarizing here) a somewhat different creature than what it started as so many years ago. There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. We can learn from each other if what is being offered is worthy of our attention. Knowledge IS structured in consciousness...but I don't want to be anywhere near the state of consciousness required to understand what some of you are trying to say or do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL. And he did so twice. And I mentioned that the first time he did so. Yet you began the nitpicky piling on. Not Curtis, you. And you continued to do so. Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin. For me this is a crucial point. You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin. You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter. Nor did you ever attempt to understand them. This is also crucial. You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that. A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances. Compassionate is obvious. Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict? If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy. You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange. Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges. Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important: that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that. When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are. You don't get to have a private exchange on a public forum. That's what email is for. It wasn't my butting in that formed your current opinions of me in any case. It's that I took you to task for the misstatements and unfairness in your posts. Curtis butted in as well, but he supported you, so you didn't form a negative opinion of him for doing so.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL. And he did so twice. And I mentioned that the first time he did so. Yet you began the nitpicky piling on. Not Curtis, you. And you continued to do so. Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin. For me this is a crucial point. You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin. You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter. Nor did you ever attempt to understand them. This is also crucial. You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that. A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances. Compassionate is obvious. Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict? If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy. You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange. Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges. Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important: that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that. When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are. You don't get to have a private exchange on a public forum. That's what email is for. It wasn't my butting in that formed your current opinions of me in any case. It's that I took you to task for the misstatements and unfairness in your posts. Curtis butted in as well, but he supported you, so you didn't form a negative opinion of him for doing so.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Hang in there Share...you have at least one more supporter out here who somewhat feels what you are trying to do. Susan was most certainly right when she indicated that FFL had become (and I'm summarizing here) a somewhat different creature than what it started as so many years ago. There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. We can learn from each other if what is being offered is worthy of our attention. Knowledge IS structured in consciousness...but I don't want to be anywhere near the state of consciousness required to understand what some of you are trying to say or do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL. And he did so twice. And I mentioned that the first time he did so. Yet you began the nitpicky piling on. Not Curtis, you. And you continued to do so. Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin. For me this is a crucial point. You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin. You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter. Nor did you ever attempt to understand them. This is also crucial. You continually piled on and nitpicked even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that. A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances. Compassionate is obvious. Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict? If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy. You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange. Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges. Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important: that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. These are your ways of not being truthful. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that. When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are. You don't get to have a private exchange on a public forum. That's what email is for. It wasn't my butting in that formed your current opinions of me in any case. It's that I took you to task for the misstatements and unfairness in your posts. Curtis butted in as well, but he supported you, so you didn't form a negative opinion of him for doing so.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About Judy's ways of not being truthful and to set the record straight, it was Robin not me who brought our conflict to FFL. Of course, I never said to the contrary. But if we want to be truthful, it was you in a public post who started the conflict by declaring you were going to suspend communications with Robin. And he did so twice. And I mentioned that the first time he did so. False as to who brought the conflict to FFL, and irrelevant with regard to my exchange with you. Yet you began the nitpicky piling on. Not Curtis, you. Non sequitur. I already pointed out that Curtis's butting- in was in support of you. Why are you pretending I said something different? And you continued to do so. I did not. We had only that single exchange. Even though you had not seen the initial private emails between me and Robin. For me this is a crucial point. You did not know all that had been said between me and Robin. It's an irrelevant point. I knew all of what had been said between you and Robin in public. That's what I was commenting on. You certainly did not ever understand my feelings in the matter. I was commenting on what you said in your public posts. If they didn't express your feelings, that isn't my problem. Nor did you ever attempt to understand them. This is also crucial. No, what's crucial is that you didn't like the understanding I came to. You continually piled on and nitpicked *ONE EXCHANGE*, Share. The entire exchange is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319541 even though he brought the conflict to FFL without asking how I felt about that. Irrelevant. A reasonable and compassionate person would have let me and Robin work it out on our own given these circumstances. You were working it out in public. As I said, you don't get to have a private exchange on a public forum. That's just the way it works. Compassionate is obvious. Reasonable because is anyone here really qualified to help 2 people work out a conflict? If yes, I'm 110% sure it's not you. What I pointed out was *your misstatements* in the post I was commenting on. You had said things that were manifestly not true in an attempt to spin the situation to make yourself look good. That is not the best way to try to work out a conflict. This mercifully short post is a good example of what I don't like about your posting, Judy. You pick one technical aspect, that one about one exchange. Which is probably technically correct in the sense that your nitpicky pilings on are not really exchanges. No, you told a falsehood, Share, and I corrected you. You said I had butted in and continued to butt in. That was not true, and you knew it wasn't true. If you don't like to have your falsehoods corrected, *don't tell falsehoods*. Simple as that. And your last sentence makes no sense. Yet you fail to mention aspects way more important: that it was Robin who brought the conflict twice onto FFL, not me; No, you started the conflict in public, Share. And that is irrelevant to our exchange in any case. that you hadn't seen the initial private emails between me and Robin; Also irrelevant, since I was responding to your public posts. that you didn't attempt to understand where I was coming from. What I saw of where you were coming from was that you were willing to misrepresent both yourself and Robin in terms of your public posts. These are your ways of not being truthful. None of what I've said has been untruthful, Share. The misrepresentations--including in the post I'm responding to--have all been yours. Again: Your objection to my commenting on your post is not that I was butting in but that I was pointing out your misrepresentations. Curtis, as noted, also butted in, and you didn't object to that because he butted in *in your favor*. Had I supported you against Robin, as Curtis did, rather than calling you on your misrepresentations, you would have been grateful that I had butted in. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perfect gig for Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Anyway, if by rabbit hole you mean my opinions of Judy, I assure you that Barry has little to do with that. When Judy butted in and continued to butt into a personal and emotional matter between me and Robin, that's when my current opinions of Judy were formed. You are not being truthful here, Share. You and I had *exactly one exchange* concerning the matter between you and Robin. I did not continue to butt in. Moreover, when you make public posts, you do not have the right to expect that nobody will comment on them, no matter how personal and emotional they are.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: snip There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. I guess you haven't noticed that many of the posts you seem to disdain are very specifically *seeking truth*, in the face of a deluge of dishonesty and misrepresentation. Oh, yes, let's seek truth, but not in terms of what people here actually say to and about each other. Right, laughinggull? Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. If we can't be honest with each other, how can we ever be honest with ourselves?
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: snip There's very little value in many of the comments made by certain posters. Everyone who even comes close to the 50 posts/week limit should look back at their posts from the past month or so and try to find those that offered something significant towards the opening sentence to the description of this group: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. I guess you haven't noticed that many of the posts you seem to disdain are very specifically *seeking truth*, in the face of a deluge of dishonesty and misrepresentation. Oh, yes, let's seek truth, but not in terms of what people here actually say to and about each other. Right, laughinggull? Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. If we can't be honest with each other, how can we ever be honest with ourselves? This, at the risk of being redundant here and trying to improve on a pretty darn tootin' good post from Judy, is a very good point. Truths and seekers and liberation certainly don't just refer to spiritual realms, unless of course we believe the physical/earthly and spiritual are not connected.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. From my experience, the quest for Truth generally takes the strategy of bypassing the smaller truths altogether and aiming for the top gun, which, if successful, puts the smaller truths in perspective as being not all that important by comparison and allows one to sort through which ones to put one's attention on. I think it takes an incredible amount of energy to deal on the level of the small truths that could be better spent. I know you have that energy, but I know I certainly do not.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy everyone -- writing for the Church of $cientology
My apologies to everyone including Judy for my part in this disagreement. If anyone has questions or concerns about my part in it or in the one with Robin, again my request is that you email me directly for sake of sparing the forum any further negativity. Thank you to everyone who has been encouraging, understanding, kind, funny, sensible, reasonable. It means a lot to me. Share PS Just in case it wasn't clear and so I don't have to use another post to explain, I was joking about walking backwards into southern entrance of Co Ed movie theater in FF. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. From my experience, the quest for Truth generally takes the strategy of bypassing the smaller truths altogether and aiming for the top gun, which, if successful, puts the smaller truths in perspective as being not all that important by comparison and allows one to sort through which ones to put one's attention on. I think it takes an incredible amount of energy to deal on the level of the small truths that could be better spent. I know you have that energy, but I know I certainly do not.
[FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy Stein -- writing for the Church of $cientology
It must be hard to face the truth. So many posters here view you as just a shrew. Not me of course . Rather, I believe you are a magnificent bodhisattva, bent upon liberating everyone in all possible universes ... even if they don't want it. This is the burden you have taken upon yourself 'cause you really love everyone ... no matter what. Magnificent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Me, I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life, including on this forum. While you are very skillful at these smaller truths Judy, I think you do get caught up in them to your disadvantage. Of course you do, Xeno. I wouldn't expect otherwise.
