Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace Maybe - mostly from my perspective I noticed when I first started reading FFL posts I saw that there was a paintball battle going on between certain folks and I didn't need to arm myself. Wise man. What does it say about the egos and self-importance of people that they feel that they *do* have to not only arm themselves, but keep taking potshots for almost twenty years. Feeling that you have to come out with guns blazing in response to every idea that challenges yours is a sign of weakness, not strength.
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
On 3/20/2014 12:45 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was that SOMEBODY else saw it. Note that I put saw in quotes. I did that for a reason - the point is not whether it was a drug-induced experience or not. I will give you the hundreds of times That's odd - out of hundreds of people and hundreds of times, in dozens of different locations, Rama's levitation capability isn't mentioned one single time on Wikipedia, or in any scientific peer-reviewed journals. Go figure. Levitation is the process by which an object is suspended by a physical force against gravity, in a stable position without solid physical contact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitation
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: are you exaggerating here with the hundreds of times Richard? At first I though the TB had seen the levitation only once when he was alone with Rama. But, later under some intense questioning by Shemp McGurk, the TB claimed it was hundreds of times he and other saw the Rama levitate, for REAL. Go figure. Dozens of times -- probably more like hundreds, actually -- over a 14-year period starting in 1981.- TurquoiseB Author: TurquoiseB Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
Read the link you posted Richard, the link written by Mark, one of Rama's devotees during the day. Take your information from those that were there. That was a real story. Stop watching the monkeys fly out of your butt. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/20/2014 12:45 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was that SOMEBODY else saw it. Note that I put saw in quotes. I did that for a reason - the point is not whether it was a drug-induced experience or not. I will give you the hundreds of times That's odd - out of hundreds of people and hundreds of times, in dozens of different locations, Rama's levitation capability isn't mentioned one single time on Wikipedia, or in any scientific peer-reviewed journals. Go figure. Levitation is the process by which an object is suspended by a physical force against gravity, in a stable position without solid physical contact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitation
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
Well, Richard, coming from someone who is desperately asking for advice on what to do about monkeys flying out of his rear end...perhaps you should move towards an understanding of why it is this is the case. After all, it isn't the first time this has happened to you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: are you exaggerating here with the hundreds of times Richard? At first I though the TB had seen the levitation only once when he was alone with Rama. But, later under some intense questioning by Shemp McGurk, the TB claimed it was hundreds of times he and other saw the Rama levitate, for REAL. Go figure. Dozens of times -- probably more like hundreds, actually -- over a 14-year period starting in 1981.- TurquoiseB Author: TurquoiseB Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
On 3/20/2014 11:35 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, Richard, coming from someone who is desperately asking for advice on what to do about monkeys flying out of his rear end...perhaps you should move towards an understanding of why it is this is the case. After all, it isn't the first time this has happened to you. No, it's not the first time - but it seems to be that every time an elephant comes into my room, the monkeys start to fly out. It can be very annoying. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: are you exaggerating here with the hundreds of times Richard? At first I though the TB had seen the levitation only once when he was alone with Rama. But, later under some intense questioning by Shemp McGurk, the TB claimed it was hundreds of times he and other saw the Rama levitate, for REAL. Go figure. Dozens of times -- probably more like hundreds, actually -- over a 14-year period starting in 1981.- TurquoiseB Author: TurquoiseB Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
A, you are also seeing elephants in your room. Sounds like a jungle in that mind of yours. Remember Richard, regardless of why Rama's devotees attest to the fact that they saw him levitate, they still saw it and it was more than one person who did. Would it help if I gave you a definition for saw? How about perceived? Does this matter? It seems to matter to you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/20/2014 11:35 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Well, Richard, coming from someone who is desperately asking for advice on what to do about monkeys flying out of his rear end...perhaps you should move towards an understanding of why it is this is the case. After all, it isn't the first time this has happened to you. No, it's not the first time - but it seems to be that every time an elephant comes into my room, the monkeys start to fly out. It can be very annoying. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: are you exaggerating here with the hundreds of times Richard? At first I though the TB had seen the levitation only once when he was alone with Rama. But, later under some intense questioning by Shemp McGurk, the TB claimed it was hundreds of times he and other saw the Rama levitate, for REAL. Go figure. Dozens of times -- probably more like hundreds, actually -- over a 14-year period starting in 1981.- TurquoiseB Author: TurquoiseB Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
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On 3/20/2014 11:28 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: That was a real story. It's beginning to look like we've get a few more TB's on the forum than I realized, more even that Barry realized. Go figure. TurquoiseB: I've witnessed real, hanging-ten-in-mid-air levitation. Shemp McGurk: To me, the important question is: why did you feel the compulsion to tell us that you DID see real levitation when it is obvious that -- even in your own words -- what you experienced was very far from what could remotely be described as real? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/20/2014 12:45 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was that SOMEBODY else saw it. Note that I put saw in quotes. I did that for a reason - the point is not whether it was a drug-induced experience or not. I will give you the hundreds of times That's odd - out of hundreds of people and hundreds of times, in dozens of different locations, Rama's levitation capability isn't mentioned one single time on Wikipedia, or in any scientific peer-reviewed journals. Go figure. Levitation is the process by which an object is suspended by a physical force against gravity, in a stable position without solid physical contact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitation
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
On 3/20/2014 12:17 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: A, you are also seeing elephants in your room. Sounds like a jungle in that mind of yours. Maybe it would be a good idea, Emily, to read the whole thread BEFORE you make your comments. Shemp McGurk: To me, the important question is: why did you feel the compulsion to tell us that you DID see real levitation when it is obvious that -- even in your own words -- what you experienced was very far from what could remotely be described as real? Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
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Richard, no need to get all pissed off and redirect again. Go back and look at the original comment from me on your initial post with the word NOBODY... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/20/2014 12:17 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: A, you are also seeing elephants in your room. Sounds like a jungle in that mind of yours. Maybe it would be a good idea, Emily, to read the whole thread BEFORE you make your comments. Shemp McGurk: To me, the important question is: why did you feel the compulsion to tell us that you DID see real levitation when it is obvious that -- even in your own words -- what you experienced was very far from what could remotely be described as real? Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
[FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
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That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace That's excellent Barry. I just thought it was apt. After all, what is the difference between paying for a bunch of Indian boys chanting one language you don't understand, and paying for a bunch of Voodoo witch doctors to do the same in another language you don't understand? Both have the exact same body of scientific research behind them -- NONE -- and both involve lazy white people paying people with dark skins to chant to probably non-existent gods to help them with their problems or heal them from some illness. It seems to me that witch doctors are a logical next step for the TMO. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
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Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
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On 3/19/2014 10:00 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: I just thought it was apt. After all, what is the difference between paying for a bunch of Indian boys chanting one language you don't understand, and paying for a bunch of Voodoo witch doctors to do the same in another language you don't understand? Both have the exact same body of scientific research behind them -- NONE -- and both involve lazy white people paying people with dark skins to chant to probably non-existent gods to help them with their problems or heal them from some illness. It seems to me that witch doctors are a logical next step for the TMO. Not sure what skin color would have with people praying. It's starting to look like you've been greatly influenced by European notions of racial superiority. That's kind of sad, but I should have seen it coming a few years ago. That's what I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace
I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
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On 3/19/2014 11:00 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. Maybe you should re-phrase that reply. Judy just told you the pundits were not boys. You failed to address the racism remarks. You could get in a lot of trouble around here if you don't start posting something that makes sense. What does brown boys have to do with TM and the pundit program?
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It's amazing how generous you are with Barry, Michael. Barry has frequently referred to the pandits now in Fairfield as boys, adolescents, and teenagers, so I'm afraid your excuse doesn't quite work. It's partly a hangover from his Southern upbringing, where men with dark skin were always boys, and partly a way of making the Fairfield pandits seem as much like helpless victims as possible. It isn't benign, I'm afraid. I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
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On 3/19/2014 10:31 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.)* * *I don't think either the TB or the MJ want to talk about their racist tendencies; it's probably way to embarrassing for them to admit they both posted racist remarks just to win a religious debate on a discussion forum. Go figure.* * That's excellent Barry.
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BTW, Michael, as I recall reading a number of times, the boys start pandit school in India long before they're adolescents--eight years old sticks in my mind. As I understand it, it's mostly basic academics at that point, not pandit training per se. (Corrections welcome if anyone knows to the contrary.) It's amazing how generous you are with Barry, Michael. Barry has frequently referred to the pandits now in Fairfield as boys, adolescents, and teenagers, so I'm afraid your excuse doesn't quite work. It's partly a hangover from his Southern upbringing, where men with dark skin were always boys, and partly a way of making the Fairfield pandits seem as much like helpless victims as possible. It isn't benign, I'm afraid. I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you to participate in the awesome group good karma. Yes, not content with employing young brown boys from India to chant for world peace, now V.O.O.D.O.O. will bring to Fairfield fully-grown black doctors from Africa, who will practice their chants to supplement our all-important efforts for world peace. These doctors, whose skills Maharishi praised many times, saying, Like ALL religions in the world, these practices have their basis in the Science of Creative Intelligence and are thus diluted versions of our superior Vedic knowledge, are considered the best at what they do, and soon you can rent them to chant for YOU. The skills of these doctors have been documented as having produced many cures, and are supported by the *exact same body of scientific evidence* that shows the efficacy of the Vedic pundits. Because these doctors are wary of having their photos taken (some of them believe that steals their souls, so we respect their wishes), we are providing a short CGI clip of one of these esteemed doctors chanting. Allow the stillness and creative intelligence of the words to wash over you and enable you to transcend, and then imagine what such chants can do for you to cure your lumbago, or to bring about world peace. Then do what you always do after one of these announcements and cut us a check. World peace depends on YOU. How can you feel important about yourself if you don't contribute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkXyhcR7EI0
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Or younger ! http://anamayashram.org/ http://anamayashram.org/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : BTW, Michael, as I recall reading a number of times, the boys start pandit school in India long before they're adolescents--eight years old sticks in my mind. As I understand it, it's mostly basic academics at that point, not pandit training per se. (Corrections welcome if anyone knows to the contrary.)
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On 3/19/2014 11:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *BTW, Michael, as I recall reading a number of times, the boys start pandit school in India long before they're adolescents--eight years old sticks in my mind. As I understand it, it's mostly basic academics at that point, not pandit training per se. (Corrections welcome if anyone knows to the contrary.)* According to Goldstein, the TMO has never employed anyone in the U.S. pundit program from India under the age of eighteen. Apparently nobody in the Indian TMO gives out TM initiations before the age of ten years old, because that's when a child is mature enough to keep a secret. That's what I read.
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On 3/19/2014 11:16 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry has frequently referred to the pandits now in Fairfield as boys, adolescents, and teenagers, so I'm afraid your excuse doesn't quite work. It's partly a hangover from his Southern upbringing, where men with dark skin were always boys, and partly a way of making the Fairfield pandits seem as much like helpless victims as possible. It isn't benign, I'm afraid. It may be the TB's ten year sabbatical over in Europe was what caused the TB to slide into the racial superiority thinking. I'm not sure he was raised up in the South, but what is obvious is that the TB will use just about any kind of argument to try and discredit Judy - it's a very deep grudge he's got fer sure. Go figure. It's probably ALL ABOUT JUDY, which makes the situation even more strange - to do a total 180 just to win an twenty-year old argument about religion with Judy. I guess with the TB, it's ALL ABOUT WINNING. I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk.
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I'm not generous with him, or at least I don't feel like I am. I like Barry and agree with a good bit of his world view. I have also by chance, gotten a fair amount of higher state of awareness experiences from reading some of his accounts with Rama, tho I don't think that was radiating directly from the Turq B so I don't want to go hug up on him and declare him my guru. I am of the opinion that he was tapping into some of the energy of the experiences when he wrote about 'em and I was open to feeling the same vibe, so I felt it too, or as the New Agers would say I resonated with that particular energy and am feeling it again as I think about it. I am also an admirer of Barry's writing and appreciate it a good deal. Now I am not too keen on some of the names he calls folk, tho I am guilty of name calling myself, particularly here on FFL, and particularly when I have been speaking of Marshy. But I know Barry don't care what I think - I just was raised not to call no lady a bad word. Or as Momma used to say Don't be ugly! But he hasn't reviled me the way he apparently has some here before I discovered FFL - I must say as I write this, I have been greatly affected by my participation in FFL - it has changed my feelings about TM, the TMO and M. It has sparked large experiences in alternate moments of awareness and given me a forum to share a few stories, both about TM and about my nutty family. So anyway, much to some folk's distaste I am not opposed to Barry, although I do wish he would tell more about the time he saw Marshy trying to get a governor to take a suitcase full of money across international borders and whether or not the feller did it, but I don't reckon he's gone do it. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 4:16 PM It's amazing how generous you are with Barry, Michael. Barry has frequently referred to the pandits now in Fairfield as boys, adolescents, and teenagers, so I'm afraid your excuse doesn't quite work. It's partly a hangover from his Southern upbringing, where men with dark skin were always boys, and partly a way of making the Fairfield pandits seem as much like helpless victims as possible. It isn't benign, I'm afraid. I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners around the world rather than dip into our own bank accounts -- will bring a number of siddhas skilled at creating coherence, healing the sick, and furthering the all-important cause of world peace to Fairfield. There, they will practice their craft in a new compound to be built with YOUR donations, thus allowing you
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On 3/19/2014 3:56 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I am not opposed to Barry, although I do wish he would tell more about the time he saw Marshy trying to get a governor to take a suitcase full of money across international borders and whether or not the feller did it, but I don't reckon he's gone do it. Maybe the TB doesn't want to talk about it because it never happened, sort of like the Rama levitation event, which never really happened. But you gotta wonder why someone would claim to having seen someone levitate hundreds of times, but NODODY else on the planet ever saw it or ever mentioned it in over twenty years. Go figure.
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Re: But you gotta wonder why someone would claim to having seen someone levitate hundreds of times (are you exaggerating here with the hundreds of times Richard?), but NODODY else on the planet ever saw it or ever mentioned it in over twenty years. Not true Richard, others with Rama's cult saw him levitate, according to the link you posted. Students say, at times, that they see different colors of light emanating from him, they see him levitate, they see him vanish, or they see other special effects. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/19/2014 3:56 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I am not opposed to Barry, although I do wish he would tell more about the time he saw Marshy trying to get a governor to take a suitcase full of money across international borders and whether or not the feller did it, but I don't reckon he's gone do it. Maybe the TB doesn't want to talk about it because it never happened, sort of like the Rama levitation event, which never really happened. But you gotta wonder why someone would claim to having seen someone levitate hundreds of times, but NODODY else on the planet ever saw it or ever mentioned it in over twenty years. Go figure.
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I'll just say I think you have some serious blind spots concerning Barry's behavior (which is about as ugly as it gets in many different respects) because you and he agree about TM. I'm not generous with him, or at least I don't feel like I am. I like Barry and agree with a good bit of his world view. I have also by chance, gotten a fair amount of higher state of awareness experiences from reading some of his accounts with Rama, tho I don't think that was radiating directly from the Turq B so I don't want to go hug up on him and declare him my guru. I am of the opinion that he was tapping into some of the energy of the experiences when he wrote about 'em and I was open to feeling the same vibe, so I felt it too, or as the New Agers would say I resonated with that particular energy and am feeling it again as I think about it. I am also an admirer of Barry's writing and appreciate it a good deal. Now I am not too keen on some of the names he calls folk, tho I am guilty of name calling myself, particularly here on FFL, and particularly when I have been speaking of Marshy. But I know Barry don't care what I think - I just was raised not to call no lady a bad word. Or as Momma used to say Don't be ugly! But he hasn't reviled me the way he apparently has some here before I discovered FFL - I must say as I write this, I have been greatly affected by my participation in FFL - it has changed my feelings about TM, the TMO and M. It has sparked large experiences in alternate moments of awareness and given me a forum to share a few stories, both about TM and about my nutty family. So anyway, much to some folk's distaste I am not opposed to Barry, although I do wish he would tell more about the time he saw Marshy trying to get a governor to take a suitcase full of money across international borders and whether or not the feller did it, but I don't reckon he's gone do it. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 4:16 PM It's amazing how generous you are with Barry, Michael. Barry has frequently referred to the pandits now in Fairfield as boys, adolescents, and teenagers, so I'm afraid your excuse doesn't quite work. It's partly a hangover from his Southern upbringing, where men with dark skin were always boys, and partly a way of making the Fairfield pandits seem as much like helpless victims as possible. It isn't benign, I'm afraid. I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 12:20 PM In an announcement that will be exciting to all current supporters of the Pandit Project, the administration of Maharishi University of Management, in conjunction with the Vedic Organization for Outstanding Doctors of Optimal Oraculation (V.O.O.D.O.O.) launches a new program to supplement the pandits chanting for world peace. This project -- which, in accordance with Maharishi's long-term policies will be completely funded by donations from loyal TM practitioners
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On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: are you exaggerating here with the hundreds of times Richard? Dozens of times -- probably more like hundreds, actually -- over a 14-year period starting in 1981.- TurquoiseB Author: TurquoiseB Subject: Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying? Forum: Yahoo FairfieldLife - Message 16 Date: July 23, 2005 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/63670
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On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: but NODODY else on the planet ever saw it or ever mentioned it in over twenty years. Not true Richard, others with Rama's cult saw him levitate, according to the link you posted. And monkeys are flying out of my butt! Students say, at times, that they see different colors of light emanating from him, they see him levitate, they see him vanish, or they see other special effects. A gullible student might see anything when they are high on LSD and out in the desert at night with a crazy guy like Lenz. Are any these miraculous Rama levitation events discussed on sci.skeptic? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.skeptic https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/sci.skeptic
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Maybe - mostly from my perspective I noticed when I first started reading FFL posts I saw that there was a paintball battle going on between certain folks and I didn't need to arm myself. I like Barry and some of the folk he fusses at so it just is what it is. On Thu, 3/20/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 1:52 AM I'll just say I think you have some serious blind spots concerning Barry's behavior (which is about as ugly as it gets in many different respects) because you and he agree about TM. I'm not generous with him, or at least I don't feel like I am. I like Barry and agree with a good bit of his world view. I have also by chance, gotten a fair amount of higher state of awareness experiences from reading some of his accounts with Rama, tho I don't think that was radiating directly from the Turq B so I don't want to go hug up on him and declare him my guru. I am of the opinion that he was tapping into some of the energy of the experiences when he wrote about 'em and I was open to feeling the same vibe, so I felt it too, or as the New Agers would say I resonated with that particular energy and am feeling it again as I think about it. I am also an admirer of Barry's writing and appreciate it a good deal. Now I am not too keen on some of the names he calls folk, tho I am guilty of name calling myself, particularly here on FFL, and particularly when I have been speaking of Marshy. But I know Barry don't care what I think - I just was raised not to call no lady a bad word. Or as Momma used to say Don't be ugly! But he hasn't reviled me the way he apparently has some here before I discovered FFL - I must say as I write this, I have been greatly affected by my participation in FFL - it has changed my feelings about TM, the TMO and M. It has sparked large experiences in alternate moments of awareness and given me a forum to share a few stories, both about TM and about my nutty family. So anyway, much to some folk's distaste I am not opposed to Barry, although I do wish he would tell more about the time he saw Marshy trying to get a governor to take a suitcase full of money across international borders and whether or not the feller did it, but I don't reckon he's gone do it. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 4:16 PM It's amazing how generous you are with Barry, Michael. Barry has frequently referred to the pandits now in Fairfield as boys, adolescents, and teenagers, so I'm afraid your excuse doesn't quite work. It's partly a hangover from his Southern upbringing, where men with dark skin were always boys, and partly a way of making the Fairfield pandits seem as much like helpless victims as possible. It isn't benign, I'm afraid. I think the Turquoise Bee is referring to the fact that the TMO claims to get these guys into pundit training when they are adolescents - which seems to not quite make sense since many of these guys would be too old to have been in a TMO school in India - but I think that's why he talks about the brown boys, rather than men folk. On Wed, 3/19/14, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM announces new chanting program for peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM Michael, do you think you might take a shot at getting Barry to understand something he's been told a number of times but can't quite seem to absorb--that the pandits in Fairfield are not young brown boys (or teenagers or adolescents, as he's referred to them in other posts) but fully grown men from 20 to 40 years old? If he's going to post racist satire, he should at least get the ages right. (You might also ask him what feel important about yourself means.) That's excellent Barry. On Wed, 3/19/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I'm not generous with him, or at least I don't feel like I am. I like Barry and agree with a good bit of his world view. I have also by chance, gotten a fair amount of higher state of awareness experiences from reading some of his accounts with Rama, tho I don't think that was radiating directly from the Turq B so I don't want to go hug up on him and declare him my guru. That's funny because when I first arrived at FFL I was asking Bawwy about his time with Rama and he told me about his book which I had a look at and all I could think of was how badly it was written. I just couldn't get past the cliched language, the really dated telling of the story. It just smacked of those movies you watch from the late 80's and early 90's where you can't help but chuckle at the bad hair, the terrible clothes and the jargon. Isn't it amazing how perceptions vary from person to person? And this was before I realized what a twit Bawwy was so I was really open to liking that book and comparing his experiences in this cult with my own. But the telling was just so like those open collared shirts paisley shirts worn with French cut jeans coupled with long sideburns and a bad 'stache reminiscent of 25 years ago. Needless to say, I didn't have any higher states of awareness glancing over Bawwy's book.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I'm not generous with him, or at least I don't feel like I am. I like Barry and agree with a good bit of his world view. I have also by chance, gotten a fair amount of higher state of awareness experiences from reading some of his accounts with Rama, tho I don't think that was radiating directly from the Turq B so I don't want to go hug up on him and declare him my guru. That's funny because when I first arrived at FFL I was asking Bawwy about his time with Rama and he told me about his book which I had a look at and all I could think of was how badly it was written. I just couldn't get past the cliched language, the really dated telling of the story. It just smacked of those movies you watch from the late 80's and early 90's where you can't help but chuckle at the bad hair, the terrible clothes and the jargon. Isn't it amazing how perceptions vary from person to person? And this was before I realized what a twit Bawwy was so I was really open to liking that book and comparing his experiences in this cult with my own. But the telling was just so like those open collared shirts paisley shirts worn with French cut jeans coupled with long sideburns and a bad 'stache reminiscent of 25 years ago. Needless to say, I didn't have any higher states of awareness glancing over Bawwy's book. Since I appeared to have made a typo on the collared shirt sentence I can do better with an image:
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Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was that SOMEBODY else saw it. Note that I put saw in quotes. I did that for a reason - the point is not whether it was a drug-induced experience or not. I will give you the hundreds of times ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/19/2014 6:10 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: but NODODY else on the planet ever saw it or ever mentioned it in over twenty years. Not true Richard, others with Rama's cult saw him levitate, according to the link you posted. And monkeys are flying out of my butt! Students say, at times, that they see different colors of light emanating from him, they see him levitate, they see him vanish, or they see other special effects. A gullible student might see anything when they are high on LSD and out in the desert at night with a crazy guy like Lenz. Are any these miraculous Rama levitation events discussed on sci.skeptic? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.skeptic https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/sci.skeptic
