[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were very nervous cops. They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
I didn't SAY it was a DUI checkpoint. Instead I asked doc how he would like to have a gun pointed at his head at a DUI checkpoint? It was an example and those happen around here. So the cops are judge, jury and executioner now? On 10/29/2013 09:24 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were /very nervous cops./ They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
Wasn't a DUI checkpoint. I've met some stinking bad cops, and some really good ones, and mostly those just doing their jobs. I generally have been treated professionally by them, under a great variety of circumstances. This country is now awash in weapons. I would be terrified if the police were not around. I live in a neighborhood that is very close to freeways, and high traffic retail areas. Great location, nice place, but very accessible. It wasn't the first time, but last Sunday, we had a criminal escape into our neighborhood. The place was swarmed with cops, and they apprehended him quickly. I have also seen them do the same thing, looking for lost kids, here, including helicopter announcements. I know they can be used as tools of the state, but until I see that as their predominant role, I'll cut them a break. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
Bhairitu wrote: I didn't SAY it was a DUI checkpoint. I didn't SAY you did. Better get those hallucinations checked out. Instead I asked doc how he would like to have a gun pointed at his head at a DUI checkpoint? It was an example A very poor example given what was at stake in this case. Sticking a rifle in a car window would be seriously out of proportion at a DUI checkpoint, but not at a checkpoint where the guy in the car has just shot four cops (and if he's into shooting cops, he's ready to shoot anybody). and those happen around here. So the cops are judge, jury and executioner now? Ooops, another hallucination there, Bhairitu, On 10/29/2013 09:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were very nervous cops. They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
As usual Judy bashes the messenger instead of discussing the story and isuse. What a sad old woman. On 10/29/2013 10:15 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Bhairitu wrote:* I didn't SAY it was a DUI checkpoint. *I didn't SAY you did. Better get those hallucinations checked out.* Instead I asked doc how he would like to have a gun pointed at his head at a DUI checkpoint? It was an example *A very poor example given what was at stake in this case. Sticking a rifle in a car window would be seriously out of proportion at a DUI checkpoint, but not at a checkpoint where the guy in the car has just shot four cops (and if he's into shooting cops, he's ready to shoot anybody).* and those happen around here. So the cops are judge, jury and executioner now? *Ooops, another hallucination there, Bhairitu,* On 10/29/2013 09:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were /very nervous cops./ They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
You're going blind as well as having hallucinations, Bhairitu. Both my posts on this discussed the story and isuse [sic]. And the first didn't even mention the messenger--it was only after you bashed my message that I came back with some remarks about you (as well as about the isuse). You, on the other hand, added zilch to the discussion other than the bashing. You're projecting a la Barry. I think it must be an age-related tendency for both of you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As usual Judy bashes the messenger instead of discussing the story and isuse. What a sad old woman. On 10/29/2013 10:15 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: I didn't SAY it was a DUI checkpoint. I didn't SAY you did. Better get those hallucinations checked out. Instead I asked doc how he would like to have a gun pointed at his head at a DUI checkpoint? It was an example A very poor example given what was at stake in this case. Sticking a rifle in a car window would be seriously out of proportion at a DUI checkpoint, but not at a checkpoint where the guy in the car has just shot four cops (and if he's into shooting cops, he's ready to shoot anybody). and those happen around here. So the cops are judge, jury and executioner now? Ooops, another hallucination there, Bhairitu, On 10/29/2013 09:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were very nervous cops. They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would think the CHP would be better than this: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/ Coming soon to a location near you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
That's your misperception. Bashing the messenger is your well known modus operanda here on FFL and people are sick of it. Grow up. We have these kind of incidents around here all the time and we don't like the cops acting like cowboys. And they don't necessarily go around pointing guns at ordinary citizens heads. Remember this incident happened only about an hour's drive from me and it was a bit isolated. They shut down Roseville and did let people back in their homes for 24 hours. How would you like that? Typical police state tactic and over the top! And we also just had a cop shoot a kid who had a toy machine gun just as the kid turned around to show the cop it was a toy. Citizens in that community are outraged and have had enough as well they should be. Hitler would have loved your apologism. On 10/29/2013 11:09 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *You're going blind as well as having hallucinations, Bhairitu. Both my posts on this discussed the story and isuse [sic]. And the first didn't even mention the messenger--it was only after you bashed /my/ message that I came back with some remarks about you (as well as about the isuse). You, on the other hand, added /zilch/ to the discussion other than the bashing.* * * You're projecting a la Barry. I think it must be an age-related tendency for both of you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As usual Judy bashes the messenger instead of discussing the story and isuse. What a sad old woman. On 10/29/2013 10:15 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Bhairitu wrote:* I didn't SAY it was a DUI checkpoint. *I didn't SAY you did. Better get those hallucinations checked out.* Instead I asked doc how he would like to have a gun pointed at his head at a DUI checkpoint? It was an example *A very poor example given what was at stake in this case. Sticking a rifle in a car window would be seriously out of proportion at a DUI checkpoint, but not at a checkpoint where the guy in the car has just shot four cops (and if he's into shooting cops, he's ready to shoot anybody).* and those happen around here. So the cops are judge, jury and executioner now? *Ooops, another hallucination there, Bhairitu,* On 10/29/2013 09:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were /very nervous cops./ They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon, nearly 40 years ago. A friend and I had been visiting friends in the Bay Area. Got a late start going home, and ended up in Roseburg, OR around 2 AM, looking for a gas station. We stopped at a 7-11 to ask where one might be. Just after we left the store, and got back in the car, the robbery alarm at the 7-11 malfunctioned - cops came screaming in from all directions. They focused on one particular vehicle, because it had four [innocent] young guys in it, though one of the officers was also cursing at me and my friend, while alternately pointing his weapon at our heads. It was pretty stressful. Yeah, cops have been into a doctrine of overwhelming force, for a *long* time. These days, they often need it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is just another example of the continuing militarization of local police forces throughout the USA. Welcome to Barack Hussein's Amerik-ass. Brought to you by all those Chicago gangsters and their wonderful White House lackey. Love him now? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: This happened only about an hour's drive from where I live. I would
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Police State Amerika
Bhairitu wrote: That's your misperception. As I just got done saying: Both my posts on this discussed the story and isuse [sic]. And the first didn't even mention the messenger--it was only after you bashed my message that I came back with some remarks about you (as well as about the isuse). You, on the other hand, added zilch to the discussion other than the bashing. Those are facts, son. Bashing the messenger is your well known modus operanda here on FFL and people are sick of it. Grow up. I rarely bash the messenger as a substitute for substantive discussion. People like you and Barry tend to get refutation or rebuttal confused with bashing, I guess because you find being refuted or rebutted painful. We have these kind of incidents around here all the time and we don't like the cops acting like cowboys. And they don't necessarily go around pointing guns at ordinary citizens heads. Remember this incident happened only about an hour's drive from me and it was a bit isolated. They shut down Roseville and did let people back in their homes for 24 hours. How would you like that? Typical police state tactic and over the top! Well, I'm not a police officer, nor do I have any of the facts the police had regarding the suspect, so I'm not prepared to say whether it was or was not over the top, certainly not just on your say-so. I can say I would rather be evacuated from my home for 24 hours than have a dude who had just shot four cops break into my house and hold me hostage, however. And we also just had a cop shoot a kid who had a toy machine gun just as the kid turned around to show the cop it was a toy. Citizens in that community are outraged and have had enough as well they should be. Indeed they should be, and not just in that community. There are far too many incidents like that these days. Hitler would have loved your apologism. Pretty early in the discussion for Godwin's Law to come into play, isn't it? Grow up. On 10/29/2013 11:09 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: You're going blind as well as having hallucinations, Bhairitu. Both my posts on this discussed the story and isuse [sic]. And the first didn't even mention the messenger--it was only after you bashed my message that I came back with some remarks about you (as well as about the isuse). You, on the other hand, added zilch to the discussion other than the bashing. You're projecting a la Barry. I think it must be an age-related tendency for both of you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As usual Judy bashes the messenger instead of discussing the story and isuse. What a sad old woman. On 10/29/2013 10:15 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: I didn't SAY it was a DUI checkpoint. I didn't SAY you did. Better get those hallucinations checked out. Instead I asked doc how he would like to have a gun pointed at his head at a DUI checkpoint? It was an example A very poor example given what was at stake in this case. Sticking a rifle in a car window would be seriously out of proportion at a DUI checkpoint, but not at a checkpoint where the guy in the car has just shot four cops (and if he's into shooting cops, he's ready to shoot anybody). and those happen around here. So the cops are judge, jury and executioner now? Ooops, another hallucination there, Bhairitu, On 10/29/2013 09:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But it wasn't a DUI checkpoint. There was a guy on the loose who had already wounded four cops and engaged them in a gun battle on and off all night. These were very nervous cops. They set up the checkpoint in an attempt to make sure the perp didn't get away; it wasn't just routine intimidation of motorists. They had to be ready to instantly shoot the dude up close and personal if they found him in a car at the checkpoint, because he would have been more than ready to shoot them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The photo was allegedly taken at a checkpoint. How would you like them to point a gun at your head at a DUI checkpoint. You need to realize that THEY are our servants not the other way around. Our taxes pay their salaries. This is not Iraq and we don't need the tactics the military used there for our towns and cities. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS not BULLIES. We should stand firm against a a police state. On 10/29/2013 06:02 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I think you are jumping to a lot of quick, and incorrect, conclusions. I remember this happening to me (guns in my face), when I lived in Oregon,
