Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Boy, have you missed the boat. If we had intended to fool people, we would have done the whole thing entirely differently. The fun was in putting on an act, an over-the-top role-playing improvisation, for others to enjoy--which most people did. Only a few real knuckleheads were unable to recognize it for what it was. Nobody with any sense could have taken it seriously. Oh, hmmm, you took it seriously at first, didn't you? Well, like I said... Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
That, lovely lady, is what we call in the trade a spin. So aside from the persistent claims of your unflinching honesty and truthfulness, you are undermining it here, as you are wont to do on a regular basis. And then, (an this really is hilarious), you attempt to put the blame on ME, as to whether or not I did fall for your ploy. And yes, I did initially give it credibility, as I don't typically assume people are trying to fool me. And just as I have seen you fall for misrepresentations that I spotted at the outset. Bottom line: You've got some serious re-evaluation to do on you persistent honesty claim. We'll wait ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Boy, have you missed the boat. If we had intended to fool people, we would have done the whole thing entirely differently. The fun was in putting on an act, an over-the-top role-playing improvisation, for others to enjoy--which most people did. Only a few real knuckleheads were unable to recognize it for what it was. Nobody with any sense could have taken it seriously. Oh, hmmm, you took it seriously at first, didn't you? Well, like I said... Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
The spin, I fear, is all in your head, Stevie-boy. I think I'll put up some excerpts to show those who never saw or don't remember the exchange how idiotic it is to think we were trying to fool people. I'm sorry you are so humiliated by having taken it all seriously when most people got that it was all in fun, but you really, really cannot blame your own failing in that regard on Robin and me. While I'm at it, please cite examples you believe undermine my claims of honesty. If I do it on a regular basis, that shouldn't be hard. Also cite examples of where I have fallen for misrepresentations that you spotted at the outset. (I'm asking pro forma, because I know you won't and can't.) That, lovely lady, is what we call in the trade a spin. So aside from the persistent claims of your unflinching honesty and truthfulness, you are undermining it here, as you are wont to do on a regular basis. And then, (an this really is hilarious), you attempt to put the blame on ME, as to whether or not I did fall for your ploy. And yes, I did initially give it credibility, as I don't typically assume people are trying to fool me. And just as I have seen you fall for misrepresentations that I spotted at the outset. Bottom line: You've got some serious re-evaluation to do on you persistent honesty claim. We'll wait ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Boy, have you missed the boat. If we had intended to fool people, we would have done the whole thing entirely differently. The fun was in putting on an act, an over-the-top role-playing improvisation, for others to enjoy--which most people did. Only a few real knuckleheads were unable to recognize it for what it was. Nobody with any sense could have taken it seriously. Oh, hmmm, you took it seriously at first, didn't you? Well, like I said... Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
You know, the interesting thing is, I don't recall Barry making any comments about Robin's and my irony duel. One would think he'd have jumped on it if it gave him an opportunity to make trouble between me and Robin, or even to say disparaging things about the humor. (If you or anyone else remembers a post of his on this topic, I'd appreciate a reminder, but I noted the absence of such quite some time ago.) Even with the current hoo-hah, he hasn't said anything about it. He has mentioned it obliquely in connection with his ridiculous contention that irony is lying, but that's about it. I suspect (and he'll deny it, of course) that he never mentions it because he doesn't want to call any more attention than necessary to an irony piece that was so much funnier than any of his own attempts (IMHO, of course). As to his current inadvertently hilarious comment quoted below, in the past he's made a big point of how Robin and I didn't engage with each other all that much on FFL, and how this showed Robin's indifference toward me. Now that he knows Robin and I were in private communication for much of the time Robin was posting here, he's having to backtrack and strike out in new directions to find a way to make his attacks. All of this makes me wonder whether the real reason he bailed on Fairfield Life was that Judy was starting to stalk him via email the way she's stalked so many people over the years on talk forums, and it was freaking him out. Maybe he was afraid she'd show up outside his door in Toronto. Can I put this post of Barry's in neon lights? This one has probably taken the proverbial cake. Eminent scholars take note - it doesn't get much better than this! Barry, there really is a God; I know this because if you knew how clearly your little theory indicates what you are inside you'd never show your deluded and ugly face here again. (Oh, and by the way, your theory stinks.) It *does* sorta sound like she had -- and still has -- a rather unhealthy obsession going with the guy, doesn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@ steve.sundur@ wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Uh-oh. You've made him really nervous, Ann. Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are. You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authcunt wrote: Uh-oh. You've made him really nervous, Ann. No, not at all. I'm just curious. You two are the primary Robin defenders and supporters here. You go out of your way to try to convert people to your way of seeing him, and persecute them if they fail to agree with you and diss him. Now you've clued us in that there aren't just two of you -- there are three. You have private email conversations with Robin, conversations that allow you to know the truth about things that others don't know. Why was it that we shouldn't consider you a cult, again? :-) Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are. You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
You know, Stevie-boy, I kinda doubt anyone who reads the two posts I just put up from Robin's and my irony duel is likely to take your claim that we were trying to fool people terribly seriously. Even Barry is smarter than to go along with that (although he may now, but then he'll look just as dumb as you do). The reality of that exchange between Robin and me, what's on the record for everyone to see, simply doesn't support the fooling notion; it's way too over the top, nothing subtle about it. I think you've forgotten how it went. Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? (You won't answer this, but that will tell us something about you, won't it?) Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Um, because three friends who email each other and share observations privately doesn't come anywhere near fitting the definition of a cult? I'll bet you've done that yourself, turkeyb. I seem to recall a little private colloquies you had going with Curtis and Vaj. Remember? Actually Ann and I speak up only when someone has said something inaccurate (deliberately or otherwise) or unfair about Robin. After all, he isn't here to defend himself, and there are newbies who never knew what he was like and have no way of knowing whether what people like you say is truthful. That seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable thing to do for a friend, and it's rather odd that you claim there's something sinister about it. Sounds paranoid and threatened, in fact, as if you felt entitled to say things that aren't true or fair about Robin and are outraged that anyone would challenge you. You don't read Ann's and my posts and didn't read Robin's when he was here anyway--remember?--so why it upsets you to think she and Robin and I may have said things to each other that you weren't able to read is beyond me. You two are the primary Robin defenders and supporters here. You go out of your way to try to convert people to your way of seeing him, and persecute them if they fail to agree with you and diss him. Now you've clued us in that there aren't just two of you -- there are three. You have private email conversations with Robin, conversations that allow you to know the truth about things that others don't know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
This is the question I was responding to--I accidentally deleted it: Why was it that we shouldn't consider you a cult, again? :-) Um, because three friends who email each other and share observations privately doesn't come anywhere near fitting the definition of a cult? I'll bet you've done that yourself, turkeyb. I seem to recall a little private colloquies you had going with Curtis and Vaj. Remember? Actually Ann and I speak up only when someone has said something inaccurate (deliberately or otherwise) or unfair about Robin. After all, he isn't here to defend himself, and there are newbies who never knew what he was like and have no way of knowing whether what people like you say is truthful. That seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable thing to do for a friend, and it's rather odd that you claim there's something sinister about it. Sounds paranoid and threatened, in fact, as if you felt entitled to say things that aren't true or fair about Robin and are outraged that anyone would challenge you. You don't read Ann's and my posts and didn't read Robin's when he was here anyway--remember?--so why it upsets you to think she and Robin and I may have said things to each other that you weren't able to read is beyond me. You two are the primary Robin defenders and supporters here. You go out of your way to try to convert people to your way of seeing him, and persecute them if they fail to agree with you and diss him. Now you've clued us in that there aren't just two of you -- there are three. You have private email conversations with Robin, conversations that allow you to know the truth about things that others don't know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Uh-oh. You've made him really nervous, Ann. Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are. You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-) Yeah, either that or a musical jazz trio...
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
But in actuality Robin's whole pattern of writing was to alternate between his supposed irony and seriousness. This example was just one example of it. And of course it is taken out of context of all that preceded it. But taking things out of context and parsing is just your usual method of obscuring things, so no surprise there. And of course there is some evidence that Robin disparaged you to other parties in his private e-mails to them. So, throw that into the mix as well. Maybe he was just fooling you as well! So, sorry Judy, best go back to the drawing board. No Olympic medal for you. So far you haven't even qualified. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: You know, Stevie-boy, I kinda doubt anyone who reads the two posts I just put up from Robin's and my irony duel is likely to take your claim that we were trying to fool people terribly seriously. Even Barry is smarter than to go along with that (although he may now, but then he'll look just as dumb as you do). The reality of that exchange between Robin and me, what's on the record for everyone to see, simply doesn't support the fooling notion; it's way too over the top, nothing subtle about it. I think you've forgotten how it went. Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? (You won't answer this, but that will tell us something about you, won't it?) Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 02/10/2014 10:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Uh-oh. You've made him really nervous, Ann. Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. *Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are.*You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. */ /* */That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-) /* */ /* *Yeah, either that or a musical jazz trio...* *Or a coven. :-D *
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authcunt wrote: Uh-oh. You've made him really nervous, Ann. No, not at all. I'm just curious. You two are the primary Robin defenders and supporters here. You go out of your way to try to convert people to your way of seeing him, and persecute them if they fail to agree with you and diss him. Now you've clued us in that there aren't just two of you -- there are three. You have private email conversations with Robin, conversations that allow you to know the truth about things that others don't know. Funnily enough I am not a Robin supporter, defender or non-defender. I have my own history and relationship with him that you are abysmally ignorant about yet you continue to make up wild speculation about based on nothing but your twisted imagination that finds a need to, well, make stuff up. Why you find this satisfying to dwell on whatever relationship I have or don't have with Robin only you are privy to. Or why you care at all is beyond me since you despise him and you revile me (no I don't think I'm important by saying so) this is curious (as you said). It is only because every time you make some postulation about what is actually going on or has gone on is so far off in left field I am quite enjoying this. After a while, and it's getting closer to that time, it is going to get pretty boring however. And what a silly statement, You have private email conversations with Robin, conversations that allow you to know the truth about things that others don't know. Uh, yeah, that is what private email entails, Bawwy, that could be the very definition of private emails. I diss no one for disagreeing with Robin, never have, never will. I disagree with him all the time. I don't understand him hardly at all. But if you will recall this whole conversation started with Share's confusion about Robin's definition of enlightenment and whether he was deluded or enlightened. I merely tried to clarify his opinion on it. It is not my opinion since (how many times am I gonna have to say it) I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY STATE CALLED ENLIGHTENMENT. Why was it that we shouldn't consider you a cult, again? :-) You can consider anything you like, if it turns your crank. I figured out pretty early on at FFL, in my earliest conversations with you, that you are stuck in your own head and you know best. Carry on, there are so many types of delusions, aren't there? Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are. You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
In actuality, he didn't alternate. There was no particular pattern. When he felt like using irony, he used irony. When he didn't, he didn't. The majority of his posts weren't ironic at all. There was no particular context for our irony duel, either. He just felt like having fun that day when he wrote the first of the posts. As I say, he didn't expect anybody to take it seriously. He knew I'd come back with something equally outrageous, which I did, and we took it from there. What you mean by parsing in this case, I can't imagine. I haven't parsed anything from those posts. Plus which, I'm not obscuring anything. Rather, I'm clearing away your attempts to obscure what we were really doing. As far as Curtis's evidence is concerned (it was just Curtis, nobody else), I know what that was all about (remember, Robin and I were in communication offline), and it was true after a fashion but deliberately misleading on Curtis's part. Curtis wasn't aware Robin and I were in private contact, so he thought he was safe in trying to stir up trouble between us. But he failed miserably and exposed himself as a class-A stinker into the bargain. I'm not looking to qualify for the Olympics, let alone for a medal, sorry to tell you. I'm just explaining what the real story was. I notice that you were unable to respond to my post that you quote. You just clobbered together a bunch of non sequiturs to try to confuse the issue further. But in actuality Robin's whole pattern of writing was to alternate between his supposed irony and seriousness. This example was just one example of it. And of course it is taken out of context of all that preceded it. But taking things out of context and parsing is just your usual method of obscuring things, so no surprise there. And of course there is some evidence that Robin disparaged you to other parties in his private e-mails to them. So, throw that into the mix as well. Maybe he was just fooling you as well! So, sorry Judy, best go back to the drawing board. No Olympic medal for you. So far you haven't even qualified. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: You know, Stevie-boy, I kinda doubt anyone who reads the two posts I just put up from Robin's and my irony duel is likely to take your claim that we were trying to fool people terribly seriously. Even Barry is smarter than to go along with that (although he may now, but then he'll look just as dumb as you do). The reality of that exchange between Robin and me, what's on the record for everyone to see, simply doesn't support the fooling notion; it's way too over the top, nothing subtle about it. I think you've forgotten how it went. Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? (You won't answer this, but that will tell us something about you, won't it?) Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
I thought I responded to whatever quote you posted. Maybe you didn't like my reply. But going by past history with you, I don't think its worth going back to try to sort it out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: In actuality, he didn't alternate. There was no particular pattern. When he felt like using irony, he used irony. When he didn't, he didn't. The majority of his posts weren't ironic at all. There was no particular context for our irony duel, either. He just felt like having fun that day when he wrote the first of the posts. As I say, he didn't expect anybody to take it seriously. He knew I'd come back with something equally outrageous, which I did, and we took it from there. What you mean by parsing in this case, I can't imagine. I haven't parsed anything from those posts. Plus which, I'm not obscuring anything. Rather, I'm clearing away your attempts to obscure what we were really doing. As far as Curtis's evidence is concerned (it was just Curtis, nobody else), I know what that was all about (remember, Robin and I were in communication offline), and it was true after a fashion but deliberately misleading on Curtis's part. Curtis wasn't aware Robin and I were in private contact, so he thought he was safe in trying to stir up trouble between us. But he failed miserably and exposed himself as a class-A stinker into the bargain. I'm not looking to qualify for the Olympics, let alone for a medal, sorry to tell you. I'm just explaining what the real story was. I notice that you were unable to respond to my post that you quote. You just clobbered together a bunch of non sequiturs to try to confuse the issue further. But in actuality Robin's whole pattern of writing was to alternate between his supposed irony and seriousness. This example was just one example of it. And of course it is taken out of context of all that preceded it. But taking things out of context and parsing is just your usual method of obscuring things, so no surprise there. And of course there is some evidence that Robin disparaged you to other parties in his private e-mails to them. So, throw that into the mix as well. Maybe he was just fooling you as well! So, sorry Judy, best go back to the drawing board. No Olympic medal for you. So far you haven't even qualified. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: You know, Stevie-boy, I kinda doubt anyone who reads the two posts I just put up from Robin's and my irony duel is likely to take your claim that we were trying to fool people terribly seriously. Even Barry is smarter than to go along with that (although he may now, but then he'll look just as dumb as you do). The reality of that exchange between Robin and me, what's on the record for everyone to see, simply doesn't support the fooling notion; it's way too over the top, nothing subtle about it. I think you've forgotten how it went. Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? (You won't answer this, but that will tell us something about you, won't it?) Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
No, you didn't respond to it. The quote with the question is below; just scroll down. It's a pretty simple question, but you don't dare answer it. I thought I responded to whatever quote you posted. Maybe you didn't like my reply. But going by past history with you, I don't think its worth going back to try to sort it out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: In actuality, he didn't alternate. There was no particular pattern. When he felt like using irony, he used irony. When he didn't, he didn't. The majority of his posts weren't ironic at all. There was no particular context for our irony duel, either. He just felt like having fun that day when he wrote the first of the posts. As I say, he didn't expect anybody to take it seriously. He knew I'd come back with something equally outrageous, which I did, and we took it from there. What you mean by parsing in this case, I can't imagine. I haven't parsed anything from those posts. Plus which, I'm not obscuring anything. Rather, I'm clearing away your attempts to obscure what we were really doing. As far as Curtis's evidence is concerned (it was just Curtis, nobody else), I know what that was all about (remember, Robin and I were in communication offline), and it was true after a fashion but deliberately misleading on Curtis's part. Curtis wasn't aware Robin and I were in private contact, so he thought he was safe in trying to stir up trouble between us. But he failed miserably and exposed himself as a class-A stinker into the bargain. I'm not looking to qualify for the Olympics, let alone for a medal, sorry to tell you. I'm just explaining what the real story was. I notice that you were unable to respond to my post that you quote. You just clobbered together a bunch of non sequiturs to try to confuse the issue further. But in actuality Robin's whole pattern of writing was to alternate between his supposed irony and seriousness. This example was just one example of it. And of course it is taken out of context of all that preceded it. But taking things out of context and parsing is just your usual method of obscuring things, so no surprise there. And of course there is some evidence that Robin disparaged you to other parties in his private e-mails to them. So, throw that into the mix as well. Maybe he was just fooling you as well! So, sorry Judy, best go back to the drawing board. No Olympic medal for you. So far you haven't even qualified. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: You know, Stevie-boy, I kinda doubt anyone who reads the two posts I just put up from Robin's and my irony duel is likely to take your claim that we were trying to fool people terribly seriously. Even Barry is smarter than to go along with that (although he may now, but then he'll look just as dumb as you do). The reality of that exchange between Robin and me, what's on the record for everyone to see, simply doesn't support the fooling notion; it's way too over the top, nothing subtle about it. I think you've forgotten how it went. Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? (You won't answer this, but that will tell us something about you, won't it?) Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from laughing so hard. It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
You mean the same question you put to most everyone you disagree with as to whether they would challenge Barry or Curtis if they wrote a post you found offensive? You mean your usual loaded question? If something strikes me as inconsistent, I will make a challenge, as I did to Barry a few days ago, and as I have done with Curtis. The difference with them is that they can converse in a way that is conducive to a better understanding. You bring to the table a different agenda altogether that I dare say most people find disagreeable. Now of course you would say it is your unflinching adherence to truth. I'd love to put that statement to an independent panel. Does that address your question or the quote you are referring to? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: No, you didn't respond to it. The quote with the question is below; just scroll down. It's a pretty simple question, but you don't dare answer it. I thought I responded to whatever quote you posted. Maybe you didn't like my reply. But going by past history with you, I don't think its worth going back to try to sort it out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: In actuality, he didn't alternate. There was no particular pattern. When he felt like using irony, he used irony. When he didn't, he didn't. The majority of his posts weren't ironic at all. There was no particular context for our irony duel, either. He just felt like having fun that day when he wrote the first of the posts. As I say, he didn't expect anybody to take it seriously. He knew I'd come back with something equally outrageous, which I did, and we took it from there. What you mean by parsing in this case, I can't imagine. I haven't parsed anything from those posts. Plus which, I'm not obscuring anything. Rather, I'm clearing away your attempts to obscure what we were really doing. As far as Curtis's evidence is concerned (it was just Curtis, nobody else), I know what that was all about (remember, Robin and I were in communication offline), and it was true after a fashion but deliberately misleading on Curtis's part. Curtis wasn't aware Robin and I were in private contact, so he thought he was safe in trying to stir up trouble between us. But he failed miserably and exposed himself as a class-A stinker into the bargain. I'm not looking to qualify for the Olympics, let alone for a medal, sorry to tell you. I'm just explaining what the real story was. I notice that you were unable to respond to my post that you quote. You just clobbered together a bunch of non sequiturs to try to confuse the issue further. But in actuality Robin's whole pattern of writing was to alternate between his supposed irony and seriousness. This example was just one example of it. And of course it is taken out of context of all that preceded it. But taking things out of context and parsing is just your usual method of obscuring things, so no surprise there. And of course there is some evidence that Robin disparaged you to other parties in his private e-mails to them. So, throw that into the mix as well. Maybe he was just fooling you as well! So, sorry Judy, best go back to the drawing board. No Olympic medal for you. So far you haven't even qualified. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: You know, Stevie-boy, I kinda doubt anyone who reads the two posts I just put up from Robin's and my irony duel is likely to take your claim that we were trying to fool people terribly seriously. Even Barry is smarter than to go along with that (although he may now, but then he'll look just as dumb as you do). The reality of that exchange between Robin and me, what's on the record for everyone to see, simply doesn't support the fooling notion; it's way too over the top, nothing subtle about it. I think you've forgotten how it went. Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? (You won't answer this, but that will tell us something about you, won't it?) Sure Judy. Just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I totally agree with you. It's an astute observation. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to Robin's and my irony duel. I'm afraid you're going to have to find another way to vent your hostility. Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. But that may be indicative of your emotional make up, and the emotional make up of Robin. But to each his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie, the only discomfort this is causing me is in my stomach muscles, which hurt from
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 6:43 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I mean Robin always seemed to be changing his mind about things. I don't think I am along in not knowing when he was being ironic, or when he was being serious. You've got to wonder about a guy like Robin: the first enlightened Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, certified by MMY. That's quite an accomplishment when you think about it. But, posting to FFL - what was his target audience? Maybe he thought the students or administrators at MUM read FFL. Apparently Robin didn't know that only Judy takes this discussion seriously. Go figure. I still think Robin should write The Confessions of Robin Carlsen. It would probably be very well received on the TM-Free Blog. But, his writing was way to long for the average FFL informant to understand because there was this tendency in Robin's postings where he tried to hoodwink people into taking him seriously. Now, the funny thing is, that Judy apparently took Robin seriously, and so from that moment on, Robin knew he had hoodwinked The Corrector and then the rest of us would be easily hoodwinked. Robin had a little trouble with Barry, who is not easily hoodwinked, but with a little help from Judy, Robin tried to make us think that Barry was the poser, when everyone else knew that it was Robin doing the posing. Curtis saw this right away and dealt with Robin on his on level by letting Robin know that Robin was a hoodwinker trying to sell us some more snake-oil.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 5:29 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? My answer: Nothing that Barry or Curtis posts to FFL is to be taken seriously, so I don't think I would be fooled if Barry all of a sudden started supporting Judy. I would think Barry is smoking something just like Robin was on something - who knows what? Anyone else is welcome to respond to this question as well. So, let's review what we know: Apparently Robin took FFL seriously, so he spent probably hours and hours composing some of his posts. But, nobody took him seriously except Judy. When he realized that Curtis wasn't taking him seriously, Robin quit the group. Then, Robin came back to try and hoodwink Barry by posting a parody, in a conspiracy with Judy, to hoodwink the group by posing as Barry's supporter. Now Judy is upset because she thinks Richard took Robin's post seriously - but it looks like Judy was hoodwinked by Richard - it was a trick posting, a parody sent by Richard, to hoodwink Judy back - and it worked. Judy got hoodwinked for her hoodwinking. Now we all know that Judy and Robin are hoodwinkers, posers, who post fibs and lie all the time. Nothing they post should be taken seriously - they are trolls. Are we agreed so far? My comment: So, don't take anything seriously that anyone posts to FFL.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 4:15 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: He just felt like having fun that day when he wrote the first of the posts. As I say, he didn't expect /anybody/ to take it seriously. He knew I'd come back with something equally outrageous, which I did, and we took it from there. The only problem with this explanation is that Robin's parodies aren't read as wholes, but only as fragments. Only if you read them in context would most of them make any sense. The vast majority of people won't bother to read the whole FFL archive to follow the Robin threads and see what Judy responded to. Go figure. But, if anyone wants to do a search using Google or the FFL Mail Archive, I've made it easy for you to find the relevant parodies - just key in IF robin THEN carlsen ELSE hoodwinks and you can read the parody posted by Robin about Judy and Barry. This has all been one big hoodwink - but now the hoodwink is on Judykins. I am quite sure this won't be lost on Barrykins. LoL! It will perhaps come as a shock to some, but in reading Barry more closely and without the intense bias that has gripped me right from the start when Barry appeared to make himself immune to the effects of my posts, I have concluded that essentially Barry is right. Right not just about Judy; but right about even myself... - Masked Zebra http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 1:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: When he felt like using irony, he used irony. Congratulations, you are the first governor of the Age of Enlightenment. The Sunnyside Drama: The First Three Years of Enlightenment by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 6:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: I mean Robin always seemed to be changing his mind about things. I don't think I am along in not knowing when he was being ironic, or when he was being serious. You've got to wonder about a guy like Robin: the first enlightened Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, certified by MMY. That's quite an accomplishment when you think about it. But, posting to FFL - what was his target audience? Maybe he thought the students or administrators at MUM read FFL. Apparently Robin didn't know that only Judy takes this discussion seriously. Go figure. I still think Robin should write The Confessions of Robin Carlsen. It would probably be very well received on the TM-Free Blog. But, his writing was way to long for the average FFL informant to understand because there was this tendency in Robin's postings where he tried to hoodwink people into taking him seriously. Now, the funny thing is, that Judy apparently took Robin seriously, and so from that moment on, Robin knew he had hoodwinked The Corrector and then the rest of us would be easily hoodwinked. Robin had a little trouble with Barry, who is not easily hoodwinked, but with a little help from Judy, Robin tried to make us think that Barry was the poser, when everyone else knew that it was Robin doing the posing. Curtis saw this right away and dealt with Robin on his on level by letting Robin know that Robin was a hoodwinker trying to sell us some more snake-oil. Stevie and Curtis, you two might make a lovely couple. Have you told him your true feelings yet? Does he have an inkling you feel this way? I mean, if I can see it he certainly could suss it out. But then he is gone and gone for good, just like Robin.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 9:36 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. It's a lot more fun, Steve, tricking people into believing you're enlightened and in cosmic consciousness. Posting to FFL and trying to trick Judy is not as much fun I would think. But, posting to the internet does have a more instant reaction feel to it - as opposed to standing on the side of a mountain or on a stage in front of a large audience making your pronouncements, where you have to wait years to find out what the reaction was. For someone like the Masked Zebra, it was fun tricking people like Judy on FFL, but not much of a challenge after hoodwinking MMY. Go figure. I floated in a kind of absolute bliss and watched as my mouth uttered sounds, as my body moved, as my individuality carried out its natural actions. In the midst of the experience I thought--or rather I witnessed the thought come: Maharishi says the real test is sleep--if pure consciousness stays awake while everything else sleeps, then one knows one is in CC. Ignorance to Enlightenment: An Autobiography by Robin Carlsen http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2009/06/writings-of-robin-woodsworth-carlsen_17.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 1:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: When he felt like using irony, he used irony. Congratulations, you are the first governor of the Age of Enlightenment. The Sunnyside Drama: The First Three Years of Enlightenment by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen It's pretty hard to get copies of this anymore but these were letters written to his personal friends. It was the first book I read of his and was quite interesting. It gave me a pretty good glimpse into the personal, intimate aspect of his relationships with his friends and how an enlightened regular western Canadian guy spent his time with a small group of people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:29 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? My answer: Nothing that Barry or Curtis posts to FFL is to be taken seriously, so I don't think I would be fooled if Barry all of a sudden started supporting Judy. I would think Barry is smoking something just like Robin was on something - who knows what? Anyone else is welcome to respond to this question as well. So, let's review what we know: Apparently Robin took FFL seriously, so he spent probably hours and hours composing some of his posts. But, nobody took him seriously except Judy. When he realized that Curtis wasn't taking him seriously, Robin quit the group. Then, Robin came back to try and hoodwink Barry by posting a parody, in a conspiracy with Judy, to hoodwink the group by posing as Barry's supporter. Now Judy is upset because she thinks Richard took Robin's post seriously - but it looks like Judy was hoodwinked by Richard - it was a trick posting, a parody sent by Richard, to hoodwink Judy back - and it worked. Judy got hoodwinked for her hoodwinking. Now we all know that Judy and Robin are hoodwinkers, posers, who post fibs and lie all the time. Nothing they post should be taken seriously - they are trolls. Are we agreed so far? My comment: So, don't take anything seriously that anyone posts to FFL. Could you define seriously?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 9:07 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: I guess it just solidifies my belief that human beings don't like to be thrust into the unknown - it seems to make them cranky and disagreeable. Anyone who reads Robin's posts would be upset because he is so honest in his opinions - you'd think Robin was telling the brutal truth - to wake you up from your metaphysical slumber. Some people just can't take the truth very gracefully and sometimes they even resent it - they make up ways to protest the truth, saying it was just a parody, an irony, a joke. They just can't take the truth even when the truth is staring them right in the face. Go figure. The truth is, truth can't be put into words, so we tell half-truths or lie just to shock and hoodwink people - it's an old Sufi trick. And then I as if woke up. The spell was broken. I knew myself to have always existed. All my suffering, all my strivings, time, space, personal history was but a dream. There had never been anything but the light of consciousness. I had never been born nor would I ever die. Something disappeared forever, and I later came to know what that was. Something continued to form the apparent boundaries of Robin but the ego that had previously had so much to say about my sensation and experience of the world was now the individuated expression of what was the unmanifest reality of God. - Robin Carlsen
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Thanks for a reasonable post for a change, Stevie. You had more problems than most, I think, discerning when Robin was being ironic. I never did; it was always obvious to me. Robin's an original. You have to be open and really tune in to get a clear perspective on him. He was never into spoon-feeding. As Ann says, some folks get him and some don't. You don't have to get him or like him, but hating him--the way Barry does--because you don't get him is just silly and very, very small. Judy, Robin's whole writing style seemed to jump between irony and seriousness, or at least as I perceived it. And because of that, and because of everything that preceded that post, it led me to believe, that it might be on the serious side of the divide. So, I was fooled, at least initially. I don't really have difficulty in determining the meaning of what Barry and Curtis are saying. Speaking of Curtis now in the past tense. The way they post seems to be the way most people post. Robin, I would say deviates pretty much from that norm. And I am not saying that is good or bad, at least for the purposes of this discussion. I mean Robin always seemed to be changing his mind about things. I don't think I am along in not knowing when he was being ironic, or when he was being serious.
