[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Speaking of posting while intoxicated... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
So many ways to be intoxicated... From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 5:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman Speaking of posting while intoxicated... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Boy, did you ever. You better take an anatomy lesson and realize the vagina doesn't create anything, and certainly not babies! Think of it more as a slippery slope.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. As for the cult apologist claims, I honestly don't know which is sadder to contemplate -- that the person knows that the claim of someone hacking Dan's account is ludicrous but said it anyway reflexively because that's just what cult apologists DO, or that the person actually believes it. The latter implies a level of paranoia and self-importance that are right up there with Nabby's claims that people are paid by the CIA or by the Dalai Lama to badrap TM and MMY on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:33 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. Whew! I was concerned this could mean that after age 50 I became a cougar- like being that stalks younger men or even worse: I bleed and become irritable on a monthly basis! I'm totally cool with being the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. What a compliment...thanks Dan!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Master Ann prefigured by Zen Master, both wise. But she also inspiring slippery laughter. Me leaving off smiley to thank M Ann who doesn't like such. Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Boy, did you ever. You better take an anatomy lesson and realize the vagina doesn't create anything, and certainly not babies! Think of it more as a slippery slope.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Tee hee, Barry had to make sure we didn't think he read Judy's entire post. He merely skimmed in Message View. It's okay, we know you couldn't help yourself. She is so tempting to sneak peeks at. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? Well it doesn't appear as if you are his personal favourite Barry but maybe he will manage an apologetic and explanatory post. However, I wouldn't bet my life on it, or even 5 Euro. 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? Leave out letters? He seemed to spell fuck alright and that was over half the content. I would also say the grammar and punctuation needed a little work. 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? Maybe likes attract, birds of a feather and all that. 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. Hey, you said Finally, now I see there's a point 6. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? Maybe you two should compare notes. 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? What cult? What am I missing here? I want to join. Somebody, tell me who do I contact? Does it cost much? Can women join? What is a Professional Cult Apologist? Anybody have an application form, a job description? So many questions, so few answers (sigh). Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Is Barry another example of how TM makes one balanced and happy? Or was that Rama's fault? Naw, I'll just chalk it up to that Dutch beer. Someone or something other than Barry has to take the blame/responsibility. Or maybe not. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that... What was that about stupid and profane?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Barry is constitutionally unable to tell the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. Barry must be referring to me here, but he's completely lost control of himself to call me a professional cult apologist. He knows neither characaterization is accurate. He also knows anybody here who's familiar with my posts knows he's lying. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. I made no claims. I made it clear I wasn't certain. And I did not use the word obviously. So that's three lies in one paragraph. What's happening, for those of you who aren't that familiar with Barry's very predictable behavior, is that I pointed out that he was lying in a different post about Dan. Check it out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316260 Every time he's caught lying, his response is to tell more and bigger lies. And he repeats his lies on a regular basis even after they've been exposed. He's told the one in the post I just linked to before as well: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282434 He was corrected by feste at the time. Did he retract and apologize? Of course not. He just filed the lie away to tell again. Actually both times the lie was even worse than was exposed. Let's look at the most recent iteration: Remember, this is the same guy who started out at Fairfield Life trying to find out the real identities of posters he didn't like. At the time, folks suspected he might have intended to do them harm. Not only had Dan been participating for two and a half years before he complained about anonymity, he wasn't complaining about posters he didn't like, as Barry falsely claims. He was complaining about Rick posting emails he'd received from non-FFL members without identifying the source. And nobody suspected he might have intended to do them harm. Barry made that up. Barry will claim that the poster is too cowardly to respond, even though he's well aware the poster has almost certainly been thrown off for making the obscene posts. Copied from below: 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? My guess is that the obscene poster is also a TMer and has been lurking on FFL. So much for Barry's embarrassment theory. Dan's last post here was in July 2011. I suspect he had unsubscribed, and the obscene poster posed as Dan and asked to be resubscribed with the intention of venting his uncontrollable rage on Barry and Vaj. If so, the motivation was certainly understandable, even if the implementation was unacceptable. Copied from below: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. As Barry is aware, emptybill and Nabby are the only posters who commonly use Vag (I don't recall anybody else ever using it). (I'm one of Vaj's sharpest critics, and I've *complained* about the use of Vag.) So let's count what Barry writes above as another lie. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to) That would be a rather stupid conclusion, actually, for anyone to come to who remembers Dan's previous posting habits. It's not impossible that Dan has gone completely starkers, but it's not the most likely reason for the obscene posts. Posting While Intoxicated isn't likely either. Those weren't drunk posts, they were crazy posts. The person who made them needs professional help. But then, so does Barry. , I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. Um, birthplace is not the same as organ of creation. The two are close together in the female anatomy, but the vagina is just the entrance to and exit from the organ itself (the uterus). As for the cult apologist claims, I honestly don't know which is sadder to contemplate -- that the person knows that the claim of someone hacking Dan's account is ludicrous but said it anyway reflexively because that's just what cult apologists DO, or that the person actually believes it. The latter implies a level of paranoia and self-importance that are right up there with Nabby's claims that people are paid by the CIA or by the Dalai Lama to badrap TM and MMY on Fairfield Life. Not if the cult apologist believes it was another TMer who dunnit.
